WEBVTT - WHO told Dorit about the TEXT? Carlos Investigates 0:00:01.160 --> 0:00:04.880 Welcome to Reality the King. It's me Carlos King. 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:07.720 The King of Reality TV and one of the most 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:12.360 sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:16.599 years a production experience. Twice a week from Reality with 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:19.079 the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:24.400 entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:34.720 moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. Welcome 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:38.480 back the amazing DJ red Chiefs. 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:42.480 Were doing on I want. 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:45.920 To get into before we get into the recent episode 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:49.000 of The Real Housewives of Billy Hills, I want to 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:54.240 get into just where we are with the state of 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:55.560 reality television. 0:00:57.160 --> 0:00:58.680 You know, we talked about. 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:05.240 The essence op ed with Mia Thornton, the journalist, saying 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:10.119 she doesn't find me a story entertaining. We're seeing more 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:18.600 and more of you know, cast members on Twitter defending things, 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:23.080 blaming editing, blaming everything in the world just based on 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:28.039 the reality that we're watching. We're seeing reality stars on 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:32.240 these shows struggle to be honest about things that we 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:36.600 later find out like, well, girl, that is what I 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:40.679 read what I saw, Like what's happening here? You are 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:43.120 a huge fan of reality television and you have been 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:45.920 for a very very long time, Richie. I want to 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:49.960 kick this off by just asking you. You watch them all, 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:53.560 from the Real Housewives franchise to the Love and Marriage franchise, 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:56.000 Bell Collective, Love and Hip Hop. 0:01:56.080 --> 0:02:01.040 You watch all of the shows in two twenty five. 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:05.040 How are you feeling about the state of reality television? 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:07.840 You know what, I think that there have been some 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:11.359 shows this year that have had amazing seasons. 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:14.080 I do, I like, I mean. 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:20.840 From Bell Collective, Salt Lake City, I think the previous 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:24.120 season of Married to Medicine. 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:29.960 You know, I have the on the previous look into 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:33.600 that too, but go ahead, I caught that baby. 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:34.680 You know. 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:39.760 And clearly Love and Maritonsville is thriving, right, you know, 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:42.600 because I feel like you guys almost film like year round. 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.880 So here's what I think that. 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:51.400 One of the things that I've come to realize as 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.560 a viewer and as somebody who reviews these shows is 0:02:55.280 --> 0:03:01.600 that I I can only I can no longer. 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:05.240 Absorb, right, And I think sometimes. 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:07.800 As as lovers of the show, you know, we watch 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:11.079 these shows. These people are in our homes every week, 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:14.919 or you know, sometimes they go live and you know, 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:17.320 we can reach out and touch them. And I think 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:21.160 sometimes storylines may reson not storylines, I don't want to. 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:22.200 I hate that term. 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:28.280 Stories resonate so so so much with certain people that 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:33.400 I think that sometimes that what it does is I 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:39.320 think sometimes fans internalize those stories and and and they 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:42.080 resonate with them so much that it can that it 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:45.480 can take things to another level. And I think that 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:49.400 when it gets to that other level for that person, 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:54.279 it may start to feel unhealthy, and the energy around 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:59.320 the show can feel unhealthy. I think we've seen aspects 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:02.880 of that. What's some of every show just just just 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.880 about right? So, and I think that the other thing 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:09.680 that the audience is, We're the audience is smart. So 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:12.880 you can't do the same thing every year like you. 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:17.919 I'm we as audiences were looking for new stories. I 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:21.360 am looking for something new to happen from season to season. 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:25.520 If I see the same thing continuing to happen every season, 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:30.440 I'm over it, right. And then the other thing is 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.480 for me, how do we make this season different from 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:33.919 the last? 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:34.160 Right? 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:38.839 So I always think I think that the this was 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:43.719 brilliant for love and marathonsviel, It's brilliant for love and 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:47.240 hip hop when the cast has something to do together. 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:52.040 That is why Bell Collective has always been able to work, 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:54.599 because it wasn't just about the women. 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:58.440 It was also about Ferris Street, you. 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:01.920 Know, love and Maritonsville has the real estate, the business 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:05.280 is you know, the Black Business Expo. I mean that, 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:08.440 you know it that spun off into so many other 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:09.280 different things. 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:11.080 So for some of these. 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:15.120 Shows, give them something to do. The med gallup, right, 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:18.560 that is now taking us in a new direction. I 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:23.040 like when the shows have stakes, something is at stake 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:26.279 and there's some new element to a story that we 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:29.640 haven't seen before. And so I think if the shows 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:32.800 can continue to evolve in that way, which is again 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:35.480 why Beverly Hills I think is doing so well as well. 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:39.480 This is new territory, but we could We've seen this 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:43.120 build up, We've seen it, but it just hadn't blown 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:45.440 up the way that it has this year. So I 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:49.800 think that it's twofold, right. We as audiences we have 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:53.359 to respect what's happening on the show and sort of 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.679 leave the show to the show. If the people sign 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:59.960 up for the show in the next season, that means 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:03.240 but at least on some level they are happy in 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:07.159 some regard to keep going back, right, So I have 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:09.560 to look at it from that perspective, and I can 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:13.280 only say, okay, well, everybody's back. Everybody must be excited 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:14.239 about what they're doing. 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:16.600 Yeah, no, I agree with you. I agree with you. 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:20.479 You know, I agree with everything that's saying they're okay. 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:24.680 So I just said to you recently that you know, listen, 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:29.120 I've been in the reality business for seventeen years. 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:34.560 You know, God, I age myself for seventeen years. 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.600 My first production experience was the Real Housewaves of Atlanta 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:39.800 Season one, episode one, boom right. 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:44.080 It's vastly different now. 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:52.000 It's vastly different because what happens nowadays is when you 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:54.719 have a reality start say to you, I'm not giving 0:06:54.720 --> 0:07:00.080 you that, that's my real life. And I'm like, I 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:05.359 didn't know we were, you know, at a medical center 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:07.360 and I'm here to draw blood. 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:10.280 Go ahead, I have a question from the back of 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:11.520 the room. 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:12.960 So people are saying. 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:17.760 That I can count on more than two hands how 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.360 many cast members I've worked with have said this is 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:22.960 my real life, I'm not giving you that, or this 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:27.560 is too real, and. 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:27.560 That always confused me. 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:31.240 Oh yes, and and and this is coming from somebody 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:35.400 who's in production. You do hear that unfortunately sometimes, and 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:37.960 that's when you know the person who signed you are gagging. 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:43.000 That's when you know the person who signed. Yes, that happens. 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:47.080 That happens, you know on Love and Matter of DC. 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:50.960 You know, I I have a cast member named Ashley 0:07:51.000 --> 0:08:02.200 Silva who is a dynamic dynamite. 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:03.280 Of a reality star. 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:13.920 And when she revealed to Joy on camera that look girl, 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:20.000 I told people I eat the producers that you sickly 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:25.880 got married. I remember saying at the reunion, like that's 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:29.040 her reality rather or not it was right or wrong. 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:32.400 That's the that's that's for those friends to judge. 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:36.280 But as a producer, when I said this to them, 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:39.720 as a producer, I didn't think anything's wrong with it. 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:45.320 She she told Joy on camera, that's what you're doing 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:49.079 a reality show. Joy disagrees with me, and that's that's okay. 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:52.960 I said to her, that's why Ashley was cast, baby, 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:57.520 because that's that's actually gives her reality to the show. 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:03.160 And when you think think about Robin Dixon, Robin, I 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:04.360 like you still. 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:10.400 I don't want anymore. Oh gosh, Robin, I love you baby. 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:18.559 When Robin Dixon did not disclose wands indiscretions or scandal 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:21.640 and said, well, I was waiting for the other girls 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:22.280 to break it up. 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.520 That's I'm telling you, Richie, That's what I knew. 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:31.880 The temperature and the intention has changed, and I'm concerned 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:35.400 about that. As great as Bailey Hill's Housewife is this 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:37.760 current season, and we'll get into this most recent episode, 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:43.760 I am a little bit disappointed that it took us 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:50.000 to see Durry and PK be separated for us to 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:54.600 know they had issues, because we never saw anything to 0:09:54.679 --> 0:10:00.000 your point leading up to it. On Love and Marriage Huntsville, 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:07.800 when Melody Martell divorced, we saw every everything leading up 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:10.200 to it, and those two are phenomenal when it comes 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:11.240 to give them the reality. 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:14.360 That's concerns me. 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:19.040 Even when we saw Mauricio and Kyle, it was and 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:24.600 I'm a Kyle stand so again, it was we don't 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:28.080 see any issues with Mauricio and Kyle until it's like 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:34.840 we're separated, And I'm disappointed in that because that's not 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:36.959 why I fell in love with this genre. 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:41.360 That's not why I spend time. 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:47.160 Away from my family, relationships, whatever, to give a show 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:52.120 forty two minutes of my time because I want to 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:54.920 see what's real. And when you talk about Salt Lake 0:10:55.000 --> 0:11:00.320 City Housewives, I enjoyed this season so much because I 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:02.880 do feel like we're getting real stuff and I feel 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:05.400 like those girls are funny and and and and bram 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:09.720 and revealing Todd cheated like love the fact that she 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:16.360 was honest about that, and the previous season of Maritime Medicine. 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:21.600 I I tends across the board because we. 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.839 Were giving, not giving. We were we were given some 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:29.559 real stuff. And my concern is nowadays people look at 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:32.880 reality TV as a quick buck to. 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:38.199 Make in exchange for popularity, but. 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:44.600 It truly has become the only occupation to where you 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:47.079 can lot on your application and get away with it. 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:51.240 That's so sad to me, you know, because it's almost 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:54.040 like telling me and I know it's no. Oh, I 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:56.480 shouldn't even say it, but it's no Santa Claus, you 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:57.199 know what I'm saying. 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:02.600 Okay, Ritchie, Ritchie next time. Given disclaimer. 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.800 A lot of my listeners are mothers who children are 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:07.760 whose children are the back seat. 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:12.080 That's why I paused when I as I was saying it, 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:16.760 because I realized I was like, oh, snap, oh, edit. 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:22.679 Mean, look, we don't add out important things. Go ahead, 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:43.960 I'm ahead, child, we are just getting started. This is 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:47.360 reality with the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:48.679 back into the show. 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:52.800 Yeah, that disappoints me. 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.800 And you know, I think that that does go a 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:58.800 long way towards what you were saying about kylein Mauricio. 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:02.280 I don't We didn't see anything leading up to to 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:06.160 understand what was going on other than Kyle running around 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:09.760 the world with this woman, Morgan. And now it's like 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:13.160 to see a season later she can't even say her 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:15.920 name on TV. Girl, No, I'm saying her name. I'm 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:18.560 gonna say you. You don't tattooed this woman on TV. 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:21.360 I'm saying her name. I don't know why you're not 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:23.360 saying it, and I don't know why you're not telling 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:25.040 us if y'all broke up allegedly. 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:25.520 I don't know. 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:29.560 But I mean you you're gonna have to give me something, 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:34.480 because because you did, it's still giving nothing. Even fighting 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:37.600 with Darrie is giving me nothing because I still know 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:40.400 nothing about your your your separation from Mauricio. 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:42.040 I know more about your arguments. 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:43.839 I know more about the conversations you have with p 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:47.400 K than I do about your your your conversations with. 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:50.440 Mauricio about why you guys are getting at this place. 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:53.880 Anyway, that's my problem, that's my problem. That's my problem, 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:57.520 and that's the reason why listen. I said this last 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:06.640 week on my podcast. I really enjoyed ourselves scene in 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:12.040 that episode because I just enjoy when you're talking about 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.800 something real, but I feel like it's relatable. 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:18.280 As great as Beverly Hill's Housewife is. 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:21.440 I do think we all know that the show is 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:26.560 known for having one storyline that they that they hook on, 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:29.560 and that's what we get for the next fourteen episodes, 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:32.760 and we know that's Dereit and and Kyle. 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:34.800 So we saw this episode. 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:41.640 It was the It was the continuation of Kyle versus Derit. 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:48.600 And Kyle said this without saying it, and I wonder 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:54.920 if you caught it too. Kyle kept intimating that me 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:59.320 and DeWitt were fine just a week ago, you know, 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:04.240 we he made amends and she said, I don't know 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:07.880 why dere is trying to start another problem with me, 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:14.680 And she intimated pretty much that Dereet, you know, needs 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:19.640 the show and the check and it's at Kyle's expense again, 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:24.600 I'm paraphrasing what she said, but I really caught the 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:28.880 innuendows that Kyle was throwing her confessionals. By the way, 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.920 love that black and silver number, Kyle. You look gorgeous, honey. 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:39.600 She kept referring to it, and it does make you wonder. 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:41.520 And I wonder if you number one. 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:44.120 Caught that and two? 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:52.640 Because Deree has never ever told us that her and 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:57.280 pet care were having issues? Is she using this battle 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:02.000 with Kyle and extending it because she knows that the 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:06.280 moment they make up, what the fuck is she gonna 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:06.760 talk about? 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:12.240 I read this differently a little bit. I love Kyle. 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:16.000 I think that Kyle. You know I'm not. I don't 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:18.840 need to get the disclaimers. We know why we love Kyle. 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:22.640 But the thing that I don't love about Kyle is 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:27.760 I think that Kyle is I don't think she's that 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:34.000 self aware because if any of those women were texting Mauricio, 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:41.240 she would snap. Okay, she would snap, and she definitely 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:43.440 would have snapped on de Ree if it had been 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:47.160 if the situation had been reversed. So for me, I 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:50.280 don't know how DEREI found out because unless I missed, 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:53.800 unless I blinked. I don't know who told her, because 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:58.480 I thought it was going to be cross Jane told her, Okay, listen, 0:16:58.880 --> 0:16:59.560 I need to. 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:03.880 And I got it. I got a whole other issue 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:04.280 with Erica. 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:06.440 But first of all, I have no issues with Erica 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:11.040 Jay because Erica Jay is doing it's farting the reality. Look, 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:14.360 I could be wrong, and range drops tell me if 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:18.200 I'm wrong or if I'm just assuming here. I thought 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:22.080 I was very interesting with something. It was something right, 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:26.360 who asked? But who told you? And the reason response 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:28.200 was what did she say? 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:28.560 Richie? 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:32.959 I cannot recall exactly what she said, but she didn't 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:34.159 name a person. 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:37.360 I think it was. Didn't Erica talk about this already? 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:40.880 Well, remember they did a flashback I think what it 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:43.560 was either doing the after show, oh my god, and watch. 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:44.840 So many of these little clips with them. 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:50.320 But when they showed the clip of the flashback of 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:55.679 dark asking Erica if she knew of of of Kyle 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:59.199 talking to p K, Erica was like, I don't know. 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:00.800 I don't not that I I don't know. 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:01.920 Okay, this is. 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:04.240 So I'm still I'm still trying to figure out how 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:09.360 she found out in true crime formats. Okay, we can 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:15.320 relatively assume that it was perchance Erica who told her, 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:20.080 but Erica then acts completely oblivious in real time. 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:22.560 This is why I love it, Erica Jane. I'm gonna 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:28.920 be real with you, and I'm on Erica Jane's side, 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:34.880 and y'all know I go for kaya, okay, but I also. 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:35.200 Keep it real. 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:39.160 Erica feels like none of those girls were a true 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:41.600 friend to her when she was going through her issues 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:45.680 with Tom Geraldine. Erica feels like the only true friend 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:48.680 she had was Lisa Renna. Lisa Renda was the one 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:51.360 who was like, I'm on your side, I'm with you. 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:54.919 When Erica Jane was reading the girls about like what 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:57.320 about me and my ear rings or whatever, and Lisa 0:18:57.359 --> 0:19:02.800 were like, okay, go time to go. Lisa Reda said, okay, girl, 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:06.600 let me get let me escort you out of here, honey, okay, 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:09.880 because you're gonna say things that you are going to regret. 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:14.040 And I feel like Erica had a. 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:18.359 Very rough two to three seasons, and she said it. 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:20.240 She didn't feel like eating of these girls had her back. 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:22.040 And she even told Andy Cohen when it came to 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:24.240 Kyin Morgan, you better grill heart. 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:28.040 The way you grilled me, right, So I still that 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:29.080 to say. 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:36.320 Erica is like, good is somebody's time or turned to 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:40.560 be in the hot seat and Erica is playing chess. 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:44.400 She's like, look bitch to de Ree, look bitch, your 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:49.119 girl is texting your man like And I thought it 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:53.840 was very clever that production kept in Sutton's question. Now, 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:55.720 what I did think was going to happen was a 0:19:55.760 --> 0:20:00.400 flashback or flash sideways or whatever of them find out 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:08.320 and maybe maybe maybe it just dawned on me, what's upcoming, Richie? 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:09.680 What we saw on the trailer. 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:12.600 It's a scene where all the girls are in the 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:15.879 robes and I think they're at like Bosey's house or event, 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:19.359 and they're all like whatever, and Kyle gets up and 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:21.879 she leaves, starts off and quits the show and pretty 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:25.000 much said, you guys are my friends. Maybe that's when 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:29.080 it's revealed that Erica Jane told to read what Kyle 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:32.320 to her in private and my private, I mean with 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:33.479 ten cameras in front of her. 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:39.040 But go ahead, mmm, because oh here's the thing. 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:44.800 I'm like, you know, Erica is normally so brash and brazen, 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:48.679 and I love listen, I didn't like her necessarily. 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:50.880 I didn't like her actions. 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:54.520 During those seasons where the girls were questioning her because 0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:58.520 I feel like these were questions that we the audience had, like, girl, 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:01.560 like this whole divorce is real suspicious with the timing 0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:04.800 of what's happening with him, Like, so you're gonna really 0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:06.840 like because we didn't see no lead up. 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:09.320 For their breakup either. We didn't know nothing. 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:11.840 We didn't know any of what she claimed she was 0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:15.920 going through until after she is now divorcing this man. 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:19.840 So none of these marriages are showing anything that's actually 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:22.120 going on with them. So it does make it hard 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:25.359 to believe that. Oh not hard to believe per se, 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:28.520 but it's shocking to us right now that we're hearing 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:31.200 these stories. It's like, well, where was this all this time? 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:31.600 Agreed? 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:36.520 So now in present moment, it's like, Okay. What I 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:41.520 feel like is Erica is gives each one of them 0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:46.320 what she thinks they need, and she is not giving 0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:47.760 them the truth. 0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:50.399 That's what I feel like. 0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:56.600 I buy the friendship between de Reed and Erica because 0:21:57.040 --> 0:22:03.439 they started off rocky with Pantygate, right, but I think 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:06.280 which is very interesting and entertaining, and which is why 0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:10.119 I love reality. I love it when two girls start 0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:14.320 off rocky and end up being friends. That's why I 0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:17.520 was looking forward to Kenyan Porsche this upcoming season of Atlanta. 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:21.119 I think Eric Henduriy had a lot of respect for 0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:24.879 each other, right, and I think when it comes to 0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:28.280 de Rey, when we saw Erica like okay, girls time ago, 0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:33.199 like right, like, this is turning into some love and 0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:34.240 hip hop type of shit. 0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:37.040 Let's let's let me take you out. 0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:40.879 When I saw that scene, Carlos, honestly, I felt like, 0:22:42.080 --> 0:22:45.640 here's my thing. I felt like there had every right 0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:48.360 to feel how she thought in that moment, and if anything, 0:22:49.000 --> 0:22:53.000 I would have been telling Kyle, hey, girl, like you 0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:56.000 need to like, you need to chill because none of 0:22:56.000 --> 0:22:58.200 the stuff that you didn't what we're doing with PK 0:22:58.480 --> 0:23:00.840 it is not right because you know, at the end 0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:03.879 of the day, you wouldn't want anybody. And I felt 0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:06.840 like Kyle was talking masks mass. I mean she was, 0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:10.639 she was going ham on Durie, and so when Durie 0:23:10.720 --> 0:23:13.480 finally snaps back and Eric is yanking her up out 0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:15.760 of here, I'm like, unless you just don't want her 0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:16.760 to reveal that it was. 0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:21.560 You, then yeah, you gonna want her to be quiet. 0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:25.720 Is that why you wanted her to shut up? 0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:30.200 Come on, girl, like, no, no, let her go in. 0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:36.119 Unless you don't want it to slip. Okay, oh girl, 0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:37.199 you about to tell I said it. 0:23:37.280 --> 0:23:39.440 No, come on, come on, let's go to the bathroom 0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:40.680 like that's what it was given. 0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:44.080 Oh my god, this is so funny to be I 0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:45.119 didn't think about that. 0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:48.400 Erica was like a little bitch before you spill my tea, bitch, 0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:50.239 let me take you out of your girl. We gotta go. 0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:53.280 Bubbo Honey, the black cars outside, Honey, hop at the 0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:55.680 drivers there, Honey with his bread tie. 0:23:57.280 --> 0:24:01.560 Right, buddy, go home, honey. I think the kids need you, child. Honey. 0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:06.040 The nanny's about to clock out. Hooey, you go home, child. 0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:10.280 I mean because I was the reason why I can 0:24:10.320 --> 0:24:11.120 have fun with this. 0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:18.159 It's because the way eric go swooped in like she 0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:22.880 was Kevin Kuner to de Ree Whitney Houston is what's 0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:26.200 hilarious to me. Because my thing is this at the 0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:29.720 end of the day, and listen, I will say this 0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:32.680 and it's fine. This ate the real house was of Alata, 0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:36.359 So I'm never thinking a girl will get snashed up 0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:41.639 by her Ponytail, just saying I don't ever see you. 0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:46.400 Can you imagine Drea Kyle pulling each other's hair? 0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:50.639 Like, So that's why I was like, no, to your point, Ritchie, 0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:52.200 let her go in. 0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:54.920 They're not going to touch each. 0:24:54.720 --> 0:25:00.439 Other, they're not gonna fight like, and I'm like, and 0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:01.800 you know what it was, Carlos. 0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:04.120 It was the way they ended the episode from from 0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:08.200 last week. So you end the previous episode. 0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:11.080 And you're like, you here glass and I'm thinking, oh, 0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:12.800 they're shaking the table. 0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:15.760