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Speaker 1: Oh, this is Unbreakable with Jay Glazer, a mental health

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Speaker 1: podcast helping you out of the gray and into the blue.

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Speaker 1: Now here's Jay Glazer. Welcome into Unbreakable and mental health

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Speaker 1: podcast with Jay Glazer. I'm your host, Jay Glazer, and

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Speaker 1: this is the first time we've gone across the Atlantic

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Speaker 1: to get some guests in. But it's pretty cool book.

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Speaker 1: I always like to have the best of the best

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Speaker 1: on here, right, And when we talk about mental health,

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Speaker 1: it's not just what I go through, the depression anxiety,

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Speaker 1: it's also the things I've done to lead to success.

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Speaker 1: You know, my gray has led to success, and I've

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Speaker 1: tried to be the first to do a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: The guys I'm having on right now, I usually say

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Speaker 1: you're one of one, but there's two of you. It's

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Speaker 1: the stolen brothers, Luke and Tom, who are the world's

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Speaker 1: strongest men. Right, Tom, you're the world's strongest man. Luke

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Speaker 1: you're you're strongest man. Right. But that's okay, So there

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Speaker 1: isn't one of one on here, but welcome man. That's

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Speaker 1: pretty cool. First of all, how much meat between the

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Speaker 1: two of you guys are we talking here? Probably probably

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Speaker 1: two kilos of me today I think we go. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a substantial amount. It's substantial amount. You have an

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Speaker 1: incredible story and I'm gonna started here because Tom you're autistic, correct, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: tell the world your story. Come from a small town

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Speaker 1: there in Scotland and now you're the world's strongest men.

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Speaker 1: Take us on this journey. Yeah. I mean, so you said,

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Speaker 1: you know, I've been from Invergorden. I was diagnosed with

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Speaker 1: autism at a young age I think eleven twelve years old,

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Speaker 1: so you know, I had it through my whole school

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Speaker 1: growing up in Vicgarden, you know, a small, small wee town,

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Speaker 1: all we wanted to play was well football in UK

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Speaker 1: just kicking it about everywhere. Everyone in Invergordon played football.

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Speaker 1: Everybody knew what football was, just that's all they did

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Speaker 1: a good thing at the same time. So then growing

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Speaker 1: up there because it's such a smallest place. I went

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Speaker 1: to school which had forty people in it. So my school,

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Speaker 1: me with the autism getting into the education system. The

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Speaker 1: that went to that school were really really kind of

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Speaker 1: you didn't feel alone. Well, you give us this too,

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Speaker 1: because I it's interesting. One of my closest friends here

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Speaker 1: but he could write out everything. What does it like

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Speaker 1: to have autism? What limits you? How do you feel

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Speaker 1: as opposed to people who don't have autism? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: What are you helping him? Do you understand it? I

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Speaker 1: when I was when we were all younger, a lot younger,

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Speaker 1: And I saw them that what the gym gave to

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Speaker 1: It's difficult. It's difficult sometimes, but you know I see

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Speaker 1: But you guys are different. You're the world chats great.

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Speaker 1: What makes you all different than your competitors than everybody else? Well,

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Speaker 1: The last two years at Welstow is Man, I did

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Speaker 1: it's funny. The last line of my book was like,

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Speaker 1: for all these years, I always thought I was cursed

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Speaker 1: by depression anxiety, and now I feel like God bless

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Speaker 1: me with the person anxiety so I could help others

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Speaker 1: through their pain. And that's exactly what you're doing. And

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Speaker 1: that's how great does that make you feel? Yeah? I

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Speaker 1: mean I said it makes me feel in talking about

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Speaker 1: it's like I could replace the world straw Man titles

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Speaker 1: to making sure that this kid's got a better life,

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Speaker 1: you know, with understanding autism. But yeah, I get an

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Speaker 1: absolute buzz when, you know, I go speak to a

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Speaker 1: class of kids or parents have messed me saying oh

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Speaker 1: you're changing my kids life around, or my kids said

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Speaker 1: their first few words because they watched you on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: It's like, Wow, that's that's incredible. You also, that's God's work.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. All right, Before I let you guys go.

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Speaker 1: I always asked my guests this. You know, you've already

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Speaker 1: given me a lot of unbreakable moments, person or anything,

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Speaker 1: and we've missed or give me that moment that's something

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Speaker 1: that should have broken you but didn't, and you can't

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Speaker 1: hear the other side of that tunnel as a result. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: you're just stronger for the rest of your life. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think for me, it was obviously my mum.

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Speaker 1: She was the person that was by my side every

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Speaker 1: single day with autism. She was the only person I

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Speaker 1: kind of went to with problems and stuff, and when

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Speaker 1: she asked, I thought that was my life over as well.

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Speaker 1: I was. He had a wife. I said to my wife,

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Speaker 1: I'm never doing strong one it again. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what to do, you know, Like, I just didn't want

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Speaker 1: to be on the earth because I'm my best best friend,

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Speaker 1: my mom, everyone had been she'd been taken away from me, so,

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Speaker 1: you know, I kind of for that next month or two,

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Speaker 1: I kind of just I didn't accept that she was gone.

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Speaker 1: You know, I was too scared to go up to

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Speaker 1: my parents' house because the first thing you'd hear is

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Speaker 1: her voice, and I didn't hear that. You know, I

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Speaker 1: was too scared to phone. I was not letting it go.

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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden switched to my mind

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Speaker 1: and the things she said to me before she passed,

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Speaker 1: and she wanted to make sure that I was happy.

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Speaker 1: I had a house, I had a wife, and you

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Speaker 1: know that just sitting it makes you happy. And I

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Speaker 1: thought that, and you know, I was doing sitting that

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Speaker 1: was making me happy. I had a house and I

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Speaker 1: had a wife. So I basically got her favorite son,

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Speaker 1: her favorite flower tattooed on me, which is a sunflower.

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Speaker 1: And every single time I competed after that, I looked

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Speaker 1: to the I looked to the clouds, and yeah, like

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Speaker 1: she gives me the energy now to kind of get

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Speaker 1: out that dark hole and just yeah, be that kind

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Speaker 1: of strong man I am because my mom was a

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Speaker 1: that's real strength, you know, trying to beat cancers probably

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Speaker 1: the most disgusting, horrible disease there is, and watching her

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Speaker 1: suffer every single day killed us, but also made a

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Speaker 1: stronger one. Flip side as well, Look what about your brother? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: very similar to Tom. You know, we both have like

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Speaker 1: tattoos throughout her body, you know, representing Mam and the family,

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Speaker 1: and you know, Mam, Mam was our the sunflower. You know,

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Speaker 1: Mam was our sunshine. You know, whenever we went, she

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Speaker 1: was always the loudest, the happiest, and she kind of

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Speaker 1: was the life force of her family. And you know,

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Speaker 1: It hit me really hard, and it took me to

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Speaker 1: a dark, dark place. Well, you know, I resented a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, and having a wife that I resented

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Speaker 1: because she still had a family that was that was

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Speaker 1: really hard to deal with. But then, yeah, I remember

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Speaker 1: it was a field, like a farmer's field out in

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Speaker 1: front of me, and I was just sitting outside having

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Speaker 1: a cup of coffee in the morning, and I saw

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Speaker 1: a man drive past in her a little van. She

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Speaker 1: had a little van that she used to drive and

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Speaker 1: the dogs would follow her. So every morning when she

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Speaker 1: was still here, we used to give her a wave

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Speaker 1: and staff and I just had this vision. I saw

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Speaker 1: her there and I thought, well, just because she's gone,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't stop us having a relationship together. I still

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Speaker 1: have a relationship with my every day and not that

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Speaker 1: realization for me was was really special. You know, because

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Speaker 1: I still talk to I still see here, I do

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Speaker 1: things now that I can kind of connect on a

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Speaker 1: deeper level. Um, So I'm very fortunate I've found that.

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Speaker 1: But being able to realize I still can have that

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Speaker 1: relationship with her even though she's not here physically, was

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Speaker 1: it was pretty special. So yeah, that was That's a

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Speaker 1: beautiful lesson. Man. You know, I try and tell some

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Speaker 1: people all the time too, like we just rent these bodies,

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Speaker 1: but the souls live on forever, so they're always still

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Speaker 1: with you. So man, I appreciate you both. You want

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Speaker 1: to meet Listen, you guys, come to La You got

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Speaker 1: to come to Unbreakable Gym A right and lift my

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Speaker 1: fucking weights. We can't wait. We'll be out good man. Man,

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Speaker 1: what you gotta just such an inspiration. I really this

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Speaker 1: was this one of my favorites. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you guys are halfway across the world

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Speaker 1: with me right now, man, but I feel like I'm

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Speaker 1: the third brother with you. Thank you for joining me, guys,

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Keep walking this walk together. Love y'all,