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Speaker 1: At this He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he

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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson. And yes, I can talk. You

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Speaker 2: can talk, Yeah, not on way? Better you're doing the work.

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Speaker 2: I'm better when I just if I try to tell,

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Speaker 2: if I talk normally in a normal voice, it sounds better, okay.

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Speaker 2: If I try to have some exuberant in my voice,

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Speaker 2: you know, it gets a little dicey.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you get this at home. I

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Speaker 3: don't think we've ever had this conversation. But sometimes my

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Speaker 3: wife will be like, you're giving me your radio voice

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Speaker 3: and I don't need it right now. And I don't

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Speaker 3: even know that there's a difference. I just get excited

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Speaker 3: when I'm doing this, and it's been a while, so

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Speaker 3: I'm rebbed up.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's the same voice I you like. For

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Speaker 2: whatever reason, if I'm talking on my cell phone, I

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Speaker 2: still I get up into this higher voice, like I

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Speaker 2: get a shout for the people to hear me. I

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Speaker 2: don't know it's weird. I guess a lot of times

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Speaker 2: I'm talking while I'm driving and the phone's in my pocket,

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Speaker 2: I'm doing hands free, and so you end up talking

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Speaker 2: louder to make sure that they can hear.

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Speaker 3: I definitely talk louder on the air, but I don't

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Speaker 3: think I do, you know. But like my wife's like,

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Speaker 3: oh yeah, it's way different. You got your on air voice.

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Speaker 3: You can calm down now we're just sitting on the

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Speaker 3: porch having a drink or whatever. You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that happens. But it's good to be

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Speaker 2: back on the air.

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Speaker 3: Yea.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good to actually be able to be heard.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm not you know, even while like I

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Speaker 2: wasn't painful to talk, Yeah, because just to pull back

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Speaker 2: the curtains. What was happening was I had some fluid

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Speaker 2: build up and it was pressing on the nerve that

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Speaker 2: handles my vocal cords, and it paralyzed one half of

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Speaker 2: my vocal cords.

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Speaker 3: So I assume there's two. There's two okay, okay, And

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Speaker 3: they come to Okay to.

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Speaker 2: Help you form words and breathe and swallow things of

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Speaker 2: that nature.

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Speaker 3: They're important.

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Speaker 2: So one side wasn't closing, okay.

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Speaker 3: I didn't quite understand that through your text and talking

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Speaker 3: to you. Yeah, okay, so.

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Speaker 2: I had to have a little procedure last week to

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Speaker 2: make sure that kind of speed things long here too.

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Speaker 3: The procedure didn't sound fun.

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Speaker 2: No, I got about uh well for an hour long

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Speaker 2: eight needles Ranney Adams.

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Speaker 3: Apple, I might just pass out on the air.

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Speaker 2: They put some collagen in there to build up the

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Speaker 2: vocal cords in here. I am.

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Speaker 3: And it's a thousand times better than when you went

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Speaker 3: in for the procedure.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I could still couldn't talk.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure like tomorrow will be better, Like you're better

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Speaker 2: It was supposed to last. He said it should hold

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and hopefully I'll do that every year too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to do it.

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Speaker 3: Does not sound funny.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to do that ever again. That sounds

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Speaker 2: like last on the list of My wife was there

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Speaker 3: As if a needle in the neck isn't uncomfortable enough. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they're just kind of squirming around and.

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Speaker 3: Okay, if it's a short segment because I'm on the

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Speaker 2: I just know that they have they had to keep

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Speaker 3: I can imagine. I can't imagine. That seems like I

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Speaker 3: mom's a rock star too. I think every other month

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Speaker 3: it is, she gets a shot in the eyeball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that would not be pleasant.

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Speaker 3: I guess, she said. I a little more used to

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Speaker 3: it's been going on for years. But you're never like

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Speaker 3: you're not used to it. Yeah, you never get a

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Speaker 2: Let's go get good.

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Speaker 3: It's eyeball shot day, Let's go. Yeah, all right.

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Speaker 2: I've had some interesting situations like that over the last year.

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Speaker 3: I say the last year or so, you've been in

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Speaker 3: some compromised positions to say the least.

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Speaker 2: It's been a fun year hopefully.

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Speaker 3: But we're back at it.

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Speaker 2: We're back at it.

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Speaker 3: This is what Dale does to get on the air

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Speaker 3: to talk to you guys. This you could have just

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Speaker 3: been like, I'm not talking for a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: Eighty four needles in my Adam's apple, right, But I

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Speaker 3: want to be here to do the show. I want

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Speaker 3: to be here to be able to talk to people.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate all the the outpouring that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, any kind words you we we missed you know, right,

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Speaker 2: means a lot.

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Speaker 3: That really showed up to me during COVID. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean we joked now, but when we went in the

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Speaker 3: old studios, it was like Stan savergn Us and a

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Speaker 3: bunch of tumbleweeds. I mean there was nobody in the

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Speaker 3: There was no one on the roads, which I didn't

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Speaker 3: let's go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's easy getting it out.

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Speaker 3: But we got a million tweets during that time. Hey,

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Speaker 3: I'm stuck at home. I don't have anything to do.

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Speaker 3: You guys, going in the office is super appreciated, you know,

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Speaker 3: so the fans are good.

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Speaker 2: It's why we're here. Yeah, that's why we're here. I

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Speaker 2: went to offer my condolences, our condolences to the family

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Speaker 2: of Arthur Smith. His father, Fred, who was the founder

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Speaker 2: of FedEx, died today at eighty.

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Speaker 3: That was today, Yeah, I heard it was over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: He founded fed X. It's amazing, right yeah. If you

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Speaker 2: want to see Fred Smith in action, turn on the

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, I didn't think about that one speach.

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Speaker 2: At the end where Hanks comes into the the airport

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Speaker 2: That's not an actor, that's Arthur Smith's the father.

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, And I had known that. But like, I'm

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Speaker 3: real big into like the men who build America, the

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Speaker 3: one all about UPS and fed X. There's a whole

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Speaker 3: hour about how he started this company and you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, him and that company are helped found the nation,

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Speaker 2: Percent when you send something, I'm in a fed exit

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Speaker 3: It's like I'm in a xerox the right, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: exactly what a Q tip is not a cotton swab.

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Speaker 3: Probably an unusual upbringing for Arthur Smith too. That's not

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Speaker 3: But I take it two ways, Like he didn't have

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Speaker 2: Arthur Smith, if he never coached a football game ever, right,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as would his great great grandkids likely unless they

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Speaker 3: do something done with the money. But obviously there's generational

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Speaker 3: I mean, he could just even coach a high school team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So again, our heartfelt condolences to the to the

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Speaker 3: Parents yeah, and I'm not making light of it at all,

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Speaker 3: But I assume he's not quitting the offensive coordinator job

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Speaker 2: Also? Uh. Pennsylvania Governor Joshapiro I said over the weekend, Well,

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Speaker 2: he's well, he's in office. No state money for stadium

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Speaker 2: for the pro sports teams. Now, the Steelers haven't been

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Speaker 2: That The Eagles, however, oh, I have been, okay, and

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Speaker 3: Thought, so, yeah, okay. I mean I remember touring recruits

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Speaker 3: But I do think the Eagles have built there since then. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they did, Okay, But I don't think the Steelers are

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Speaker 3: in any rush to change things. No, No, So like

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Speaker 2: The state is involved thoughts in some form or fashion.

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Speaker 2: So you know, we'll see how that goes. And again

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Speaker 2: I don't think, yeah this, the Steelers aren't in any

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Speaker 3: But eventually, I mean there's going to be a day yeah,

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Speaker 2: To be able to compete. You know, when people talk

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Speaker 2: a lot of it comes back to the state. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 2: Oh there's no family area in the stadium. Well there's

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Speaker 2: Twenty five years ago that wasn't a concern.

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Speaker 3: So again, twenty five years ago, I was touring people

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Speaker 3: also year one, basically the second year of the facility

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Speaker 2: Which when they moved in there seems per you know, hey,

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Speaker 3: Oh that's what I was gonna say. I mean, we

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Speaker 3: And that's like why the Raiders sell a chunk to Brady, Right,

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Speaker 3: Walmart or Yeah, you know the corporations that rule.

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00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 2: They run football teams.

442
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 3: They run football teams. Right, it's to family business. I'm

443
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 3: sure they have other interests. They have stocks. I mean

444
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 3: they're not they're not. I'm sure's some diversifications throughout their families. Again,

445
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 3: I'm not a financial wizard at all, but I guess

446
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,959
Speaker 3: it could be a problem. I mean, yeah, big picture,

447
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 3: Does that become a disadvantage? Is there more do those

448
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 3: teams push for more revenue sharing or the way I

449
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 3: was actually thinking of it is at owners meetings, which

450
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 3: we always broadcast from in the future, might they start

451
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 3: to get out numbered on things? Twenty teams want something

452
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 3: that's not great for the mond pop organizations. Relatively speaking,

453
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 3: seven are cool with it, and then the other one

454
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 3: in between is like that, I don't really it doesn't

455
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 3: matter to me, you know, like, could they start to

456
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 3: get out numbered on those type of things, like potentially

457
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 3: I can't imagine it ever being a pirate situation though, yeah,

458
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 3: I mean like pirates versus Dodgers.

459
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 2: I mean, like, well, the revenue sharing itself right on

460
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 2: the TV deals kind of prevents that from happening.

461
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 3: I say, that's kind of an umbrella. Yeah yeah.

462
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 2: But at the same time, that is why you've seen

463
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 2: the Rooney family take on some investors. Investors, Yeah, yeah,

464
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: you know, and things of that nature. There's always been investors,

465
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 2: but you know, that's just the way that these teams

466
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 2: have to handle things to be able to compete.

467
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 3: And I'm obviously not speaking for the Rooney family or

468
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 3: the Morrows or Browns, for that matter too. But they

469
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 3: could sell at the Walmart and make a huge amount

470
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 3: of money yea, and become very liquid and go on

471
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 3: with their life. Well not there on their life's work,

472
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 3: but they could go on and basically retire, and a

473
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 3: huge company could run the Steelers someday, I guess, I mean,

474
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 3: or the Bengals or the Giants. It seems so unlikely,

475
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 3: but I guess fifty years from now, it's possible.

476
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 2: Me exclamation point, I said, let's go. While your voice

477
00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 2: was strained, you sound like sounded like coach caller. I

478
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 2: get that.

479
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 3: I've gotten some Don Corleoni Cower. Yeah.

480
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 2: Cower after a game would often have a very strange voice. Yeah.

481
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 3: Okay, so his postgame press conference was as good as

482
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 3: game speech, I'm sure.

483
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. He has a couple of questions here, Gifted quarterbacks

484
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 2: or well, I guess it's one question. Gifted quarterbacks can

485
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 2: make wide receivers look like all stars, for example, Ben

486
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 2: with Hey, Bay Brown, Juju Sanders, Wallace Bryant, Deonda, et cetera.

487
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 2: Can Rogers make a wide receive wide receiver room awesome

488
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 2: or do we need a wide receiver two.

489
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 3: I'd say both. I still think the need for wide

490
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 3: receiver two has not diminished. I mean, I definitely think

491
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 3: they're in the market and are pursuing options there, and

492
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 3: I think that that's something they should do. But especially Rogers,

493
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 3: more so than Wilson for sure, and definitely more so

494
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 3: than any of the other guys the fields and Bisky's

495
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 3: and those guys, is so demanding on route precision and timing.

496
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 3: It's almost like the Bill Walsh thing. If you watch

497
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 3: specials of him coaching at Montana, six inches in front

498
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 3: of the numbers, not three, not nine, you know, not

499
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 3: slightly above the numbers. I mean, really, ball placement is

500
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 3: super important to Rogers, more than most quarterbacks over the

501
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 3: last twenty years. You know, the back shoulder fades, those

502
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 3: type of things. Now, that takes a lot of buy

503
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 3: in from your wide receiver room, and they have to

504
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 3: be good at it. I mean, there's one thing, is okay, Aaron,

505
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 3: I believe you your track records awesome. I'm gonna be

506
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 3: I'll do everything I possibly can be in the right place.

507
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean you will be, you know. But

508
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 3: I definitely think his history of elevating receivers.

509
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 2: Over the course of his career very real. I will

510
00:25:54,720 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 2: say this, I think we're going to see Pat Fryarmouth elevated.

511
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 2: He's in that regard to ye.

512
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 3: Like Garrett Wilson's a great receiver. But I've been watching

513
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 3: more and more Jets tape, and there was a disconnect

514
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: there for a while. You know, he was a round

515
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 3: off a route here and there, some hands in the air.

516
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 3: There was also some major dysfunction with that offense structurally

517
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 3: and protection wise and things like that. And it got better,

518
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 3: but it was also a lot different deal when DeVante

519
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 3: Adams was there. Yeah, you know, no, I don't think

520
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 3: anybody in this team is going to replicate the Adams

521
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 3: Rogers connection. It's one of the best in NFL history.

522
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 2: They played together for years, and.

523
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 3: They played together for years, and but if they are

524
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 3: where Rogers wants them to be, the football will be

525
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 3: where Rogers wants it to be, you know what I mean?

526
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? And I think you know, all you have to

527
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 2: do is look back at the two interceptions he threw

528
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 2: against the Steelers in the examples, right, the first one,

529
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: Beanie Bishop made a hell of a play, yeah, and

530
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: that happens the second one, Wilson probably and I don't

531
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 2: know this for sure, but probably didn't run that route

532
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 2: quite as deep as he was supposed.

533
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 3: To right right, And so there's a lot of trust

534
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 3: from a quarterback when he releases the ball that you're

535
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 3: gonna be where you're supposed to be.

536
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,479
Speaker 2: He goes up a little bit, the ball hits off

537
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: off of his shoulder pad and bounces backwards into Beanie

538
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 2: Bishop's hands right right right, And that was probably an

539
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: instance where he wasn't quite where he needed to be at.

540
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 3: And it's hard, I mean, you'd think that it's not wide.

541
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 3: Receivers are domb they don't know where to be. You're

542
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 3: running full speed getting off a jam, and there's linebackers

543
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 3: and safeties in your way and things like that. It's

544
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 3: not just seven on seven and we're talking about two

545
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 3: point four seconds versus two point six seconds of when

546
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 3: to make that break and get your head around and

547
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 3: where your hands need to be and it's just gonna

548
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 3: be in the back shoulder is just gonna be on

549
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 3: my back hip? Is this gonna lead me? You know,

550
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,479
Speaker 3: like people don't think about things like this. It's this

551
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 3: is very basic. Is actually it was a big Bill

552
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 3: Walsh thing that he kind of brought to the league.

553
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 3: That is everyone in the world employes now too, is

554
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 3: if I'm getting man coverage after the catch, I'm pretty

555
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 3: much running in stride. If you do that ver zone,

556
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 3: you get your head taken off. So therefore a good

557
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 3: quarterback will lead you accordingly. You know what I mean.

558
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 3: You're not going to lead a guy into Minka yet

559
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 3: the hospital ball, right exactly, And that's there's no jack

560
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 3: tatums anymore and the stuff. But right, you sit down

561
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 3: and take a big hit. Yeah right, I mean, so

562
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 3: after the catch stuff you get a lot more usually

563
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 3: after man because you're not running into the teeth of

564
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 3: the zone. And all receivers and quarterbacks know these things.

565
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 2: His next question is rank these pizza places from worse

566
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: the best. WHOA, Okay, now, they're all national chains. I

567
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: don't want to do the worst.

568
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: I get so few Pizza Hut Dominoes anymore, but bringing.

569
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 2: On Okay, so that's actually two of them.

570
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 3: There's actually a good food to build America about those too, too.

571
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: Domino's Little Caesars.

572
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 3: I haven't had any in a long time. Yeah, I'd

573
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 3: probably got Pizza Hut first.

574
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: I probably would too.

575
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 3: Because I kind of remember just childhood all you could

576
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 3: a teenager. You walked in there for lunch. That was

577
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 3: pretty nice.

578
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,239
Speaker 2: And they had green olives on the salad bar, so

579
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: you can load up to green olives.

580
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 3: At UPJ, there was a pizza hut. You can get

581
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 3: a personal you know, like four cutter at the tuck

582
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: shop or whatever. And I'd go get banana peppers and

583
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 3: green peppers and stuff like that and dump it on.

584
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: There, says speaking of that, I did the uh. And

585
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: this is right before I lost my voice. Yeah, I

586
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 2: did the UH. We had a little thing at UPJ

587
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: where I went back. They had It was a reunion

588
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: for people who had worked on the college radio station

589
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: and the newspaper.

590
00:29:59,240 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

591
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and UH got to see a lot of people

592
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 2: back there that I hadn't seen in a while. You

593
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: stayed in the dorms, right, stayed in the dorms. It

594
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: was actually nice because they had the alumni area where

595
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: we could engage in some adult beverages and then you

596
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 2: just walk back the hallway to your dorm room.

597
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 3: Not bad. Are they inducted us in the Hall of

598
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 3: Fame soon or what they should? Well, yeah, but nothing yet.

599
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 3: I haven't gotten any notifications.

600
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 2: It hasn't happened. Yet I did talk to Mike Mastovich,

601
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: who works at the Tribune Democrat and who is in

602
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 2: the UPJ Hall of Fame.

603
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 3: So well, okay, you got him on our side.

604
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: They do. They do have people that I worked with,

605
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 2: Mike back in the way, back in the day when

606
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: I first started out.

607
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 3: That's should show there some pint we should well.

608
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, his third question, what was the last summer blockbuster

609
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 2: movie that you enjoyed seeing in the theater?

610
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 3: Boy, these it's not my area of expertise either. I

611
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: mean I've gone I've probably gone ten movies in the

612
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 3: last twenty years.

613
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say dead Pool over in last year.

614
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 3: I would say it had to be a Marvel movie

615
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 3: for you. It had to be. I mean, like you.

616
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: Said, pull overine was. I've watched it probably twenty times

617
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: since then, and every time I watch it, I see

618
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: a new gag. Okay I didn't catch the first time around.

619
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 3: I only watched it because of you and actually CJ

620
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 3: as well pumping it up so much that I had

621
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 3: never watched any of the Deadpool movies. Yeah, as of

622
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 3: a year ago, and they're pretty darn hilarious. Yeah, but

623
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 3: along those lines, it just so happens. As of two

624
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: days ago was the fiftieth anniversary of Jaws being released,

625
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 3: which might be the biggest summer blockbuster in the history

626
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 3: of the world.

627
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: It was huge.

628
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 3: And I was a creative writing major and sometimes would

629
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 3: do like cinema stuff and things like that. And frankly,

630
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 3: I mean I was a creative for any major because

631
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 3: it was the easiest way to get a diploma without

632
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 3: going to class early. But you learned a lot, and

633
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 3: like Jaws changed things, yeah, you know, like little things

634
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 3: like they didn't show the villain, which was the Shark

635
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 3: in this instance until the end in very very little,

636
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 3: or you see a fin or you see blood, you know,

637
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 3: like Hannibal Lecter. They've used that kind of press strategy

638
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 3: Darth Vader, you know, like you don't see the villain

639
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 3: all the time, just hanging out, but you know he's

640
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 3: there and the music and all that summer blockbuster though

641
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 3: that I like had to see. I don't know that

642
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 3: there's ever been any I mean, I'm sitting there going

643
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 3: back to childhood, like speaking of Star Wars, when the

644
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 3: second when Empire came out, I was like second in line.

645
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: Just so happens. Our neighbor. Johnny Diggins must have been

646
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 3: first in line because he told the whole neighborhood that

647
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 3: Darth Vader. I mean, come on, man, I mean that

648
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 3: he was Luke's faugh. There a spoiler alert. If you

649
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 3: haven't seen it by now, then you're a little late.

650
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: You haven't seen it by now, Shame on it.

651
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 3: Shame on you. Although you've called out a couple of times.

652
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: Not that I knew German at the time when I

653
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 3: was seven or whatever, but Vader is German for father. Yeah,

654
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 3: that's probably not an accident. But yeah, he told the

655
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 3: whole neighborhood, like the day came out, like we should

656
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: all beat up Johnny Diggins.

657
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Speaker 2: That's a jerk move.

658
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 3: That's a jerk move. But I will say Christmas the

659
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: day Godfather three came out, came out on Christmas, and

660
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 3: my buddy and I went like as soon as Christmas

661
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 3: dinner was over. It was a bit of a.

662
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Speaker 2: Letdown, But that easily the worst of gotten, not even close.

663
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Speaker 3: But we didn't know that walking in. We had to

664
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Speaker 3: be first in line for that one.

665
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, good questions there.

666
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 3: Let's see what else go back to childhood and all

667
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 3: of that stuff.

668
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Speaker 2: Though DSR says, can you guys expand on the AFC

669
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Speaker 2: Norse schedules, analyze the Ravens, Bengals and Brown's strength of schedule?

670
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Speaker 2: That's I don't have it in front of me very much.

671
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Speaker 2: A segment there, yeah, that is.

672
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Speaker 3: And maybe maybe that's a Wednesday segment because my notes

673
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 3: aren't anywhere near me. But if you go to Sharp Football,

674
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 3: I think it's up there for free all the time.

675
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 3: Is he always has the chart of where these all

676
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 3: rank just based on opponents, strength of schedule, based off

677
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 3: win totals. Browns is awful, Brown's is at the bottom

678
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 3: of the league. The Giants are at the way bottom,

679
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 3: Browns are thirty first. Steelers are I want to say,

680
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 3: like twenty fifth or so. Ravens and Bengals are mid.

681
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 3: They're a little easier than the Steelers. But and I'm

682
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 3: taking this all from Sharp. If you start analyzing like

683
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 3: rest analysis and when the games are played, doesn't help

684
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Speaker 3: the Steelers as much as I thought it would, because

685
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 3: he makes a note too like if you pick their

686
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 3: five hardest opponents, they have a rest disadvantage in like

687
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 3: all those games. You know, So there's some I don't

688
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 3: want to say, unfair, but there's some things that aren't

689
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 3: working in your favor. It's not three in eleven days,

690
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 3: but you know.

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Speaker 2: It seems to me that a lot of people, both

692
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 2: nationally and locally seem to feel that the Bengals are

693
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: a better team than the Steelers.

694
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Speaker 3: No Vegas does too, and I don't see it. I

695
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 3: don't either. I'm very unimpressed with their offseason, especially defensively. Yeah.

696
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: Not even even if hendrick Ing worse, they are worse.

697
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 3: I mean, even if Hendrickson and Shamar Stewart their first

698
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 3: round pick, sing Kumbaya the first day of training camp

699
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 3: and can't wait to be Bengals, I still think they're

700
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 3: worse on defense, and they're two of the most important guys.

701
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't see it.

702
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 3: I don't either, and it's not because the forum we're

703
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 3: on right now. But my least favorite bet would at

704
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 3: the numbers of who wins the Super Bowl is betting

705
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 3: on the Bengals because it doesn't pay that much. It's

706
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 3: like the fifth highest odds are. It's only behind the Eagles, Lions, Bills.

707
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 3: Refense still matters. Yeah, Burrow's awesome, but that's just so

708
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 3: reliant on one thing. Just the passing game in general,

709
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 3: which is phenomenal, but even the run game's not that great. Yeah,

710
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 3: you know, and I don't think the coaching staff gives

711
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 3: them a huge advantage. You know. I will probably pick

712
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 3: them to be third in the division.

713
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 2: I think I will too.

714
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and outside the playoffs.

715
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Speaker 2: I think the Ravens have helped themselves this offseason.

716
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Speaker 3: I'm very impressive.

717
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Speaker 2: I can't say that about the Bengals. I certainly can't

718
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 2: say that about the Browns. No.

719
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Speaker 3: I mean the Browns at least finally made a bunch

720
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Speaker 3: of draft picks. They're not the picks I would have made,

721
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 3: but at least they have an influx of youth for

722
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 3: the first time in five years or whatever. Again, I

723
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 3: would not have drafted two running backs and two quarterbacks.

724
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 3: I was drafted some big people. But at least there's

725
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Speaker 3: something and they have a future first round pick. Yeah,

726
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 3: I could say screw it up. The Bengals actually taking

727
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 3: a step backwards this year. I've said this and I've

728
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 3: hesitated to say it, and I think I've said it

729
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 3: on this airwaves too. I could see Joe Burrow being

730
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 3: Carson Palmer in two years and just being frustrated with

731
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 3: the whole organization, saying I'm doing everything, I'm doing all

732
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 3: the heavy lifting, and we still only can win seven games.

733
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Speaker 2: Because here's the other thing that happens when you have

734
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 2: a guy like Hendrickson who is respected in that locker room. Yeah,

735
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: he's your best defensive player by far, and you have

736
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: not even remotely made him a priority.

737
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 3: No, and to take it a step further, and to

738
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 3: use the Steelers as as an example. Nick Herby sits

739
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 3: down with us at at mini camp and one of

740
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 3: us was asking him how influential was TJ watt Fellow Wisconsin,

741
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 3: same position, and He's like, I just followed around like

742
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 3: a puppy Dog's the best thing I've ever had, right,

743
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 3: I saw it. And I'm like, what do you think

744
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 3: Harmon will do the same with Cam Hayward, He's like,

745
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 3: he's insane if he doesn't. Well, you have Hendrickson the

746
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 3: last two years, you've taken a defensive edd in the

747
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 3: first round. What kind of influence is that? You know

748
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 3: what I mean?

749
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 2: It's like the.

750
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 3: Polar opposite of doing just to do what trade does

751
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 3: all the time. Yeah, Well, Trey's on here and he's

752
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 3: unhappy and he's talking bad things about the organization. Okay,

753
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 3: and you're sitting out and Miles Murphy's also a first

754
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 3: round pick. What kind of influenced you on the young guy?

755
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 3: You know, like there's there's a ripple effect there too

756
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: that makes all Hey, let's get to.

757
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: A break before you get to any more questions here.

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Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie. You're listening

759
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 2: to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt

760
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 2: and I'll be back with more right after this. At least.

761
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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

762
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

763
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the

765
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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and we're going through some next Twitter questions here.

766
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just got one I need to interjector a

767
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 3: quick from at Williamson NFL for Justin. It is and

768
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 3: the question is is Tom Offerman in the house today?

769
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 3: Have you seen him around?

770
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 2: Oh? That is very revealing because the candy jar.

771
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 3: The candy jar. We've been here for two segments. I

772
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: got a coffee before segment one. There was forty pieces

773
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 3: of candy in there.

774
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: I saw that when I walked by it.

775
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 3: It was hardy. It was hardy. We haven't been here

776
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 3: for months, right, And I've always assumed that the candy

777
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 3: monster was Tom Offerman because he's one of the only

778
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 3: ones that's always here and he definitely dips in there.

779
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I just went back there after two segments

780
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 3: to get a second coffee. There's one hard tack ball left,

781
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 3: like forty pieces of chocolate receis, et cetera. Has been

782
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 3: gone in two segments. I assumed it was Tom, but

783
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 3: now it's not. We need to start digging into things again.

784
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 3: Who's the candy monster?

785
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 2: It's not justin.

786
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 3: The three of us are safe, oh CJ. Wolfully certainly

787
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 3: of okay, all right, there's not many candidates throughout the

788
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 3: course of the year. There's not many people sitting here

789
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 3: as much as us. All right, all right, good information.

790
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 3: I know.

791
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 2: Marco A. Romero Navarro says, for Matt, oh, how are

792
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: you evaluated as a scout back in Cleveland?

793
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 3: Well, we were on fired because we stunk after a year.

794
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 3: After a year, and I think they actually did keep

795
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 3: like two people on. But one thing I can tell

796
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 3: you is how I was evaluated to get the job.

797
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 3: I thought was an intro. It was a full day.

798
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 3: So over the course of probably six to eight hours

799
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 3: of being at the Browns facility, not knowing a soul,

800
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 3: I did. At one point I thought it was really interesting.

801
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 3: They just left me in a dark room with a

802
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 3: note tap with a note tablet for like three or

803
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 3: four hours, and they had me a value you wait,

804
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 3: one of their players. I remember it was Andre Davis,

805
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 3: the linebacker. He was one of the better players. Yeah,

806
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 3: and they had like a form of how they did things,

807
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 3: but they basically just said, just write your notes here.

808
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 3: I know you're not gonna type them up.

809
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 2: They're not formal.

810
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 3: They gave me a college player, which I remember who

811
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 3: that was, and they gave me another player on another

812
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 3: team and basically just said, here's as much tape as

813
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 3: you want. We'll be back in two hours or three

814
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 3: hours or whatever. If you need anything, come call in

815
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 3: or whatever. Give us a report on these three guys.

816
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 3: And I remember watching three or four games of each

817
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 3: and doesn't change direction. Well, good size, blah blah blah

818
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 3: blah blah. Had definitely had lunch with both the College

819
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 3: Scout director of college scouting and the director of pro Scouting.

820
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 3: We all just had a long lunch and was part

821
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 3: of the interview process. The last thing I did was

822
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,479
Speaker 3: I definitely was in Butch Davis's office for a good

823
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 3: half hour or forty five minutes something like that. Peak

824
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 3: Arc was the GM at the time. Spent a lot

825
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 3: of time with him. Don't think I talked to any

826
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 3: assistant coaches during the interview process, but apparently I did well.

827
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 3: I mean I remember them saying, there's forty or fifty candidates,

828
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 3: and you're one of the ones we're bringing in. And

829
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 3: two of us got hired. I mean, you know, and

830
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 3: my man James and I and we both had basically

831
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 3: the exact same job. So that was kind of interesting

832
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 3: considering my circumstances. I don't think I ever got evaluated

833
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 3: for like a final product, right right. I mean I

834
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 3: was in the draft room and I would chime in

835
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 3: here and there about players or hey, Matt, I know

836
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: you watched them, what's your report on them? But then

837
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 3: I was let go to the day after draft. So,

838
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 3: I mean those reports are still on file, and I'm

839
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 3: hoping it probably will never happen. I'm hoping to have

840
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 3: a conversation with Aaron Rodgers because that was the year

841
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 3: he came out and I remember watching him at CAL

842
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 3: and his game has changed so much much. And oh,

843
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 3: by the way, folks, that was Alex Smith went first

844
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 3: that year. We picked third. We the Browns. It's weird

845
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 3: to say we for that, but our favorite player in

846
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 3: the draft was Brayln Edwards, who we end up taking

847
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 3: with the third pick. And weirdly, we didn't think we

848
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 3: had a quarterback problem at the time. Jeff we had

849
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 3: Jeff Garcia was like thirty eight years old and kind

850
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 3: of shot, and we had taken Luke McCown not Josh

851
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 3: the year before. I was there, so he had a

852
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 3: rookie year in the third round, so they thought they

853
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 3: got the successor in hand. But where I'm going with

854
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 3: this is the Browns as a team, as did I

855
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 3: had a higher grade on Rogers than Smith, even though

856
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 3: he ended up going like twenty picks later when it

857
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 3: was all said and done. So if the Browns had

858
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 3: thought they had a quarterback problem, the probably it would

859
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 3: have been Rogers. It would not have been They wouldn't

860
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 3: have traded up for Smith, he wouldn't have been there.

861
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 3: They gladly would have taken Rogers, and I'm hoping to

862
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 3: have that conversation someday with Rogers because his game has

863
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 3: changed so much and it's just how he was coached,

864
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 3: I'm sure at CAW, Yeah, because everything even just watch

865
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 3: him in warm ups last week or two weeks ago.

866
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 3: You see all these different arm angles and equated to

867
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 3: like Auzzie Smith playing short stuff. Then everything was at

868
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 3: the ear, you know, like so long ago. But that

869
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 3: was typical throw like Dan Marino, everything snaps off exactly

870
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 3: the same, you know. And he he did that well, Yeah,

871
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: he did it well. But I'm sure the far of

872
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 3: influence changed him dramatically because frankly, he wasn't as good

873
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 3: a prospect the cow and I bet he would even

874
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 3: tell you that then what he turned into. Yeah, I

875
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 3: mean yeah, he was considered somewhat of a system quarterback too. Yeah,

876
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 3: and he wasn't an improv guy.

877
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 2: Like that for both of us. How do the Steelers

878
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: evaluate their own draft process, Well, you evaluate your draft

879
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: process by wins and losses. I mean that's the that's

880
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 2: the bottom line for every scouting department.

881
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder the So I hope someone scouts the scouts. Oh,

882
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 3: that happened. I mean, it definitely happens. I don't know

883
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 3: their process for doing those things, and we would never

884
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 3: know those things unless we were employed by the team,

885
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 3: like their Southeastern scout might not even know how he's evaluated, right,

886
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 3: you know, I mean I'm sure there.

887
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 2: As with anything, you go and you sit down with

888
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 2: your boss. In this case, the head of the scouting

889
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: department would be vital. If you're a pro scout, you go,

890
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: you know, to Sheldon White, and you probably have an

891
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 2: evaluation or a review at the end of the year.

892
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 3: My wife works at PNC. I think she has a

893
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 3: monthly one with her boss, and there's one at the

894
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 3: end of the year that's actually like a grade. Yeah,

895
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 3: you know, you get this much bonus because of it

896
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,439
Speaker 3: or whatever. I'm sure all that stuff exists. I didn't

897
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 3: really have that luxury as you it m'd have been

898
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 3: to one more day. Probably that starts to happen. Yeah,

899
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 3: I mean, at that point, there were all a bunch

900
00:45:58,320 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 3: of raven scouts taking our.

901
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 2: Jobs and finally asked, how do the Steelers get better

902
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 2: in the scouting department. Well, they've changed their scouting department massively,

903
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 2: drastically over the last three years.

904
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

905
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, there have been a huge influx of different people.

906
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 3: As most organizations, they had a lot of long term scouts,

907
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 3: some have retired, and you know, right right, they're much

908
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 3: younger now.

909
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 2: They're much younger. They've also, I think, added more analytics

910
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 2: to it, no question, and that's just that's part of

911
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: the process.

912
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: And there's no doubt that Omar does things differently than Kevin. Yeah,

913
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 3: I'm sure he learned a lot from Kevin. And there's

914
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 3: still some things in place, without a doubt. And you

915
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 3: could go find the reports that much like my Rogers

916
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 3: report is probably on file somewhere in Cleveland. You could

917
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 3: go back and see the old stuff. But that's a

918
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 3: tough one to answer. I mean, you'd have to be

919
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 3: in the meeting rooms and know their scouting system and

920
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 3: all that type of stuff.

921
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: VMG says, do you think the Steelers need some support

922
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: just in case on their offensive line?

923
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 3: I would love it. It's just the hardest thing in

924
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 3: the world to find.

925
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: Right right, Yeah, it's very difficulty that right.

926
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 3: Now, I would love it. I mean, anyone who listen

927
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 3: to our predraft shows I preached, man, I really hope

928
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 3: they take an old lineman or two, even if it's

929
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 3: a six to seventh round. But every thirty one other

930
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 3: team saw it the same way. I mean, the.

931
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: Offensive lineman went early.

932
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 3: There was a very heavy tax on fourth round offensive

933
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 3: lineman going the second round, sixth round offensive lineman going

934
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 3: in the third and fourth where that's a cost of

935
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 3: doing business. I get it, but I understood, especially with

936
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 3: limited picks this year, you'd have a second round.

937
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 2: Pick and it wasn't a great offensive line.

938
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 3: And it wasn't. And that's what made it even worse

939
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 3: because they became even more of a premium Like next year,

940
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 3: no matter what happens with Siamalu or Broderick Jones, what

941
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 3: kind of year they're going to have, but I guarantee

942
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 3: one of their picks will be on an offensive line.

943
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 3: Had twelve of them, they may two or three. Yeah,

944
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 3: that might be multiple. So yeah, I am worried. I

945
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 3: just don't know where it comes from. Yeah, yeah, but

946
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 3: that's not a unique problem in the league either.

947
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: It really isn't. It really isn't. Dan says Dale, we

948
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 2: won't miss the back in my day voice. Any thoughts

949
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: on their now suddenly deep safety room with mincing de

950
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 2: Shawn now locked up for a few years.

951
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 3: I guess that's happened since we were together the contract

952
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 3: and you add.

953
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: In Thornhill, how might this group be deployed at the

954
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: same time on the field.

955
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 3: Well, I definitely contract aside. I mean, you knew Elliott

956
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 3: was gonna be a Steeler this year either way. Thornhill

957
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 3: is a free agent after the season. Who knows. But

958
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 3: I've been harping on this for a while and we've

959
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 3: talked about it quite a bit. I definitely expect that

960
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 3: there will be more defensive personnel packages than there were. Like,

961
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 3: I think there's a chance you might see three linebackers

962
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 3: on the field, true linebackers. I mean, I'm talking about

963
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 3: Queen Holcombe Wilson, you know, a true old school four

964
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 3: to three. I think there's a chance you see three

965
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 3: outside linebackers on the field together. I mean it's hard

966
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 3: to keep her big on the bench and depends on

967
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 3: the opponent. Yeah, yeah, I think that's a possibility. And

968
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 3: I absolutely think three safeties is going to be a

969
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 3: bump for sure. Big nickel. They've done a lot of

970
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 3: big nickel in the Tomlin ear in the last five years.

971
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 3: Last year they were a little lighter. I mean, I

972
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 3: think Thornhill's a major an obvious upgrade over the KzS

973
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 3: of the world. Yeah, you know, especially the last year.

974
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,720
Speaker 3: So I think that makes you way more versatile, spreads

975
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 3: out the workload a little bit. Like I don't think

976
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 3: Minka is ever gonna leave the field. I don't think

977
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 3: all of a sudden you're gonna rest him like Cam Hayward. Right,

978
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 3: it's a different type position. You know, Safeties and corners

979
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 3: don't really get that luxury. But I do think middle

980
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 3: of the field is really deep inside linebacker safety, and

981
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,479
Speaker 3: there's a lot of versatility there too, Ye for sure,

982
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 3: a lot of options.

983
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 2: For sure. Let's get to a break that's going to

984
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Speaker 2: do it for hour number one of the drive. You're

985
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and I'll be back

986
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Speaker 2: with our number two right after this