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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Rewind with Karen and Georgia.

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Speaker 2: You know, every Wednesday we recap our old shows with

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Speaker 2: all new commentary and updates and insight. We truly do, Karen,

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Speaker 2: We really do.

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Speaker 3: And today we're recapping episode eighty three, which is the

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Speaker 3: second half of our two part Unqualified crossover, which we

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Speaker 3: succinctly titled Unqualified with on a Farris Crossover Part two.

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Speaker 2: This episode came out on August twenty second, twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Now let's listen to the intro of episode eighty three.

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Speaker 4: Sim this is when you're supposed to talk.

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Speaker 5: Well, this is part two. I'm excited that we're all

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Speaker 5: back here. Thank you for showing up again.

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Speaker 4: No problems of long drive, but we're great. It's so

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Speaker 4: crazy you're wearing the same and well, I love it though.

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Speaker 4: This is my Thursday shirt.

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Speaker 6: All right.

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Speaker 5: So we're gonna start with Anna first. She's gonna do

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Speaker 5: her favorite murder. After that we'll go to Georgia. You'll

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Speaker 5: do yours.

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Speaker 6: We have one more advice call and then we're done

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Speaker 6: with the show.

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Speaker 7: Are we calling this my favorite Unqualified?

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Speaker 6: My favorite Unqualified? I love it already?

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Speaker 4: Can I? I didn't mean to cut you off, Georgia.

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Speaker 7: There was nothing else.

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Speaker 4: I'll just say that way all time. I wish you

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Speaker 4: would just start.

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Speaker 2: And we're back. We had to learn what other people's

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Speaker 2: podcasts like Engineers are like totally because Sim was the

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Speaker 2: Stephen of Anna Ferris is Unqualified.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was great.

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Speaker 4: He was.

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Speaker 1: We were like, Steven, step it up.

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Speaker 2: Stephen, You're no, sim could you imagine if you said that?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 2: But it was like a different energy. And then we're

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Speaker 2: just kind of like we are combining podcasts right now,

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Speaker 2: so weird, very street.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: We said last episode about how incredibly wonderful Anna is

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Speaker 3: and and will be and always be.

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Speaker 2: I always will be, forever and ever. I mean, it

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Speaker 2: was interesting to meet a person that we already knew

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Speaker 2: totally and have them know us, yeah, separately from us

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Speaker 2: directly knowing them.

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Speaker 1: Right, So I'm like, oh, this is a fellow podcaster.

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Speaker 6: What's up.

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Speaker 3: It's like, oh, hey, you're a fucking A list celebrity

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Speaker 3: and we're in your house right now.

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Speaker 2: And we just found out that you somehow know who

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Speaker 2: we are. Yeah, so now we're all acting chill about it.

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Speaker 1: Why are you so pretty?

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Speaker 3: It's like not fair and tiny, I have so many

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Speaker 3: questions for you.

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Speaker 1: Anna.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, well she delivers, Yes, she does in

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Speaker 3: her story. Let's get into Anna's story about Rebecca Schaeffer.

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Speaker 9: Okay, so I have to tell you, though, I have

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Speaker 9: to qualify this with this is actually like a story

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Speaker 9: that I remember very vividly and kind of has sort

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Speaker 9: of sort of becoming well known, shall we say famous?

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: I think I think I might do.

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Speaker 9: Maybe I have two ideas of what it could be.

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Speaker 9: It's it's like as all these stories are horribly tragic.

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Speaker 7: Oh, I know, you do, I Thatt idea what I'm excited?

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Speaker 9: No, no, no, it's it's terrifying because you know, I

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Speaker 9: live here like whatever, like in a weird home anything,

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Speaker 9: my mind, this story comes up a little bit, which

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Speaker 9: is Rebecca Shaeffer.

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Speaker 4: Oh shit, is Thatt what you were gonna guess?

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Speaker 8: You were, Karen, you were gonna guess it was either

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Speaker 8: Rebecca Shaeffer or Treesa Saldana is the other one.

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Speaker 7: Yes, I was gonna gets Sharon Tate.

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Speaker 9: So oh I couldn't go quite there, but this is

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Speaker 9: this is one of the most well, they're all tragic stories,

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Speaker 3: So sad?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 10: So.

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Speaker 9: Rebecca was born November sixth, nineteen sixty seven and raised

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Speaker 9: in Portland, Organ And She wanted to grow up being

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Speaker 9: good looks caught the attention of a cattle call, which

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Speaker 9: my good looks never caught the attention of a cattle call,

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Speaker 9: of a of a temple of a rabbit.

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Speaker 4: Hey at a local modeling agency.

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Speaker 9: Less than two years later, in nineteen eighty four, after

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Speaker 9: appearing in a number of Portland area publications, she went

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Speaker 9: to New York to pursue her modeling career. Her modeling

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Speaker 9: career didn't take off due to being only five foot seven,

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Speaker 9: which poor thing gross, so she decided to focus on acting, quickly,

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Speaker 9: appearing in television commercials, seventeen magazine Woody Allen's film Radio

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Speaker 9: Days in One Life to Live, So she became very successful.

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Speaker 9: She was a stunningly Who was she in Radio Days?

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Speaker 9: It was cut, Oh, son of a Baitch. Some movie's

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Speaker 9: so good. In nineteen eighty six, at the age of eighteen,

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Speaker 9: Her work caught the attention of Los Angeles casting directors,

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Speaker 9: and she was cast in the CBS sitcom My Sister Sam,

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Speaker 9: playing the character of Patty Sam's Sam's next door Sam's

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Speaker 9: girl next door sister.

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Speaker 4: What the fuck?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, anyway, now she's living in La. Rebecca was

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Speaker 9: on the fast track to stardom.

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Speaker 8: Can I just say that my sister and I loved

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Speaker 8: my Sister Sam from the second it came out. We

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Speaker 8: loved her so much. She was just one of She

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Speaker 8: looks like one of those classic all American girls, curly hair,

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Speaker 8: great face, beautiful, but you also like sweet. Yeah, you

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Speaker 8: could feel her positive because I watched it too, and

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Speaker 8: you could feel like her.

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Speaker 9: I don't know, I hate to say positive energy. That

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Speaker 9: sounds like a very La thing to say, but a warmth.

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Speaker 9: She had the Sandra bullockfield to her.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like, oh, I'm friends with her already.

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Speaker 9: Yeah. So now we have the stalker. The stalker comes

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Speaker 7: That was a fucking stalker.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 9: Robert John Bardow So he was a nineteen year old

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Speaker 9: Tucson resident. Barto repeatedly had a troubled childhood, an alcoholic mom,

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Speaker 9: and mentally ill father. He was abused by one of

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Speaker 9: his siblings and placed in foster care after he threatened

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Speaker 9: to commit suicide. He was diagnosed with manic depression and

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Speaker 9: at one time institutionalized for a month for emotional problems.

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Speaker 3: Don't put your fucking kid in foster care if he

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Speaker 3: wants to kill himself.

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Speaker 4: No kidding.

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Speaker 9: So beyond that timeline, beyond that he says here on

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Speaker 9: my info sheet.

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Speaker 4: Beyond that tim time.

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Speaker 9: Professional Beyond that tim time he received professional help. But okay,

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Speaker 9: back to my sweet Rebecca. At age sixteen, before stalking Rebecca,

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Speaker 9: he stocked a child peace activist, which I always thought

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Speaker 4: How do you find the child peace activist?

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Speaker 9: But anyway, TV is something wonderful woman named Samantha Smith

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Speaker 9: who tragically died in a nineteen eighty five plane crash, which,

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Speaker 4: A lot of plane crashes. Eighty five, Yeah, nineteen eighty five,

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Speaker 4: John Edgar, I don't know, I don't know. Probably don't

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Speaker 4: ask me too any questions. I'm just I just got

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Speaker 4: to read the tim time sheet.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Karen usually knows whose weird obscure facts.

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Speaker 8: I was scraping my brain? Was that the one where

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Speaker 8: the rugby teammate each other. Yeah maybe maybe yeah?

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Speaker 7: Could that counts for three? That one?

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Speaker 9: Anyway, So this fella Bardo, he was lonely and he

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Speaker 9: spent a lot of time watching television. Believe it or not,

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Speaker 9: he discovered Rebecca sitcom my sister Sam, and he became

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Speaker 9: pretty smitten. He saw her was a beautiful he saw

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Speaker 9: her his beautiful and hosts wholesome.

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Speaker 4: Wholesome?

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Speaker 9: Oh god, can I even say that again? Wholesome That's

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Speaker 9: like how you describe oatmeal. But innocent, I think is

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Speaker 9: sort of the major point that we will get to later.

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Speaker 9: And he collected her magazine covers and talked about her

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Speaker 9: as if they were friends. I don't know who you

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Speaker 7: Maybe he just the Grosbeaks store clerk.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, he's delivery bought the magazine from So over the

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Speaker 9: course of three years, he wrote, you know, a ton

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Speaker 9: of letters to Rebecca, and one letter was answered by

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Speaker 9: an employee of Schaeffer's Rebecca Shaffer's fan club, and he

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Speaker 9: was encouraged. But that he came to Los Angeles hoping

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Speaker 9: Sister Sam, but he was turned away by Warner Brothers security.

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Speaker 4: He was pissed.

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Speaker 9: He returned a month later armed with a knife, but

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Speaker 9: security guards once again prevented him from gaining access to

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Speaker 4: I don't know why you can't get onto that Warner

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Speaker 7: You can't not the first time. That's a time, come

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Speaker 4: I love it. If somebody was like, I got a knife,

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Speaker 4: I got us there. Oh well, then you should have

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Speaker 9: So he later said that he brought the knife because

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Speaker 9: So, once again very upset, he returned to Tucson and

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Speaker 9: lost focus on Schaeffer for just a little while. His

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Speaker 9: obsession shifted towards pop singers Debbie Gibson and Tiffany Oh.

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Speaker 7: I mean minded too, but I was in a fucking

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Speaker 4: Mean eighty five, which host do we have right? They

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Speaker 4: were on their mall tours.

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Speaker 9: So during this period, he was arrested three times on

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Speaker 9: charges including domestic violence and disorderly conduct. Okay, now we're

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Speaker 9: getting to the actual tragic events. And I hope our

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Speaker 9: listeners know and everybody knows that this it's I'm simply

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Speaker 9: like the scary movie one, two, three, four actress, not

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Speaker 7: I did not understand that.

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Speaker 4: Well, I didn't all the scary movies. But so I

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Speaker 4: don't have it. I don't. But but fame is.

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Speaker 9: An odd thing, and I don't think that. I hope,

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Speaker 9: I hope nobody comes over and does a dang dog.

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Speaker 4: There's so we can talk about this for a half.

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Speaker 9: Right, But I do, yes, But but the obsession with

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Speaker 9: fame is something that at times has freaked me out

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Speaker 9: just a little bit, not too much, because you know,

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Speaker 9: I'm simply that that other one that like a beautiful

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Speaker 9: twenty one year old who stars on a massive Well.

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Speaker 7: Honey, it's okay, you're not going to see him arrogant.

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Speaker 4: Oh thank you are scared.

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Speaker 9: So On June third, nineteen eighty nine, our Murder turned

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Speaker 9: his attention back to Rebecca after watching her in the

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Speaker 9: black comedy Class Struggle in Beverly Hills.

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Speaker 7: Have you seen that?

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Speaker 8: Yes, it's but is that the name of it? It's

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Speaker 8: not class struggle on Beverly Hills.

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Speaker 4: It's this is it truth?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 6: No, it's right, class struggle in Beverly Hills.

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Speaker 4: Oh do you guys want to fight?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Sorry, Storry, Sorry, sorry, that'd be amazing. What am I

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, they know you, so it's not weird to

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Speaker 4: That's fucking right. So yeah, either of you try to

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Speaker 4: I've been finished for this.

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Speaker 8: Just to make you feel better. It took me fucking

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Speaker 4: But then they finally were like, oh, that's right.

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Speaker 8: You shouldn't be able to know anyone's address, and you

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Speaker 9: Yeah, like you were saying that it hasn't been taken

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Speaker 7: Wow, that's I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 8: And also the Teresa Saldonna story is so insane. I

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Speaker 8: It was the woman who was the wife in Raging Bull.

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Speaker 8: Like he the Colagan man saved her life, and she

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Speaker 3: That's like the end of so many of our stories

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Speaker 4: Their the tragedy where like hopefully prevention of like we

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Speaker 3: We've done the Amber Law, Amber, Alert Girl Amber, and

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Speaker 4: You know, That's why I keep the guillotine though.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, come fuck with me. I'll fuck with you. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Oh you're bringing me my clothes. Yeah all right, okay.

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Speaker 1: We are back, Karen. We do you have any updates?

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Speaker 2: The only update is that Robert John Bardo remains in prison.

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Speaker 2: But we did look through the Gmail about this case

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Speaker 2: to you now. It says hello to my beloved MFM crew.

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Speaker 2: This is not so much my hometown story as it

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Speaker 2: since it relates to a story that's mentioned on the

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Speaker 2: But just before I began sixth grade, we were watching

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Speaker 1: Oh God, I.

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Speaker 2: Can't imagine how horrifying and surreal that moment of realization

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Speaker 2: no silver lining to the murder of Rebecca Schaeffer, it

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Speaker 2: it escalates. Miriam, that's incredible.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, hearing that story and how little could

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Speaker 3: it was just so horrifying.

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Speaker 2: And I mean, also, I think that is one of

449
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 2: those and we talk about this, but that idea that

450
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 2: you're watching a person you've interpreted their life this one

451
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 2: way because there a TV star that's been brought into

452
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 2: your world, because it's like, oh, it's a TV star,

453
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 2: and then the ending of that person's life is so

454
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 2: horrific and tragic, and it's like a reality bending in

455
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 2: a way because it's like, oh no, wait, I just

456
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 2: knew her in this ideal situation, right, or as a

457
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 2: human being with yeah, and you think it's ideal, this

458
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 2: idea of fame, this idea of like this is what

459
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 2: she's made it to the big time horrible. It's so sad,

460
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 2: it really is. Okay, so we're going to get back

461
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 2: into the Unqualified Crossover. Here's Georgia's story about Charlie Brandt.

462
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 6: Georgia, what do you have for us?

463
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 4: Well?

464
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 3: I have a serial killer I've never ever heard of

465
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 3: in one of those like there's just some this BuzzFeed

466
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,959
Speaker 3: or web some website that I found that like like

467
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 3: the craziest murderer in every state, and this guy was Florida,

468
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 3: So you know, he's fucking top notch, you know what

469
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 3: I mean.

470
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 9: I love it that we have like like Washington crazy

471
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 9: serial killers.

472
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 4: And then float like it's.

473
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Speaker 3: A yeah, I love it, and we're doing three shows

474
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 3: in Florida, and Florida was like when are you going

475
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 3: to come to do a live show here? And we're

476
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 3: like Oh, you have the best murders were coming there

477
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,360
Speaker 3: for three shows, like no other state that we're doing

478
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 3: three shows in all right, September fifteenth, two thousand and four.

479
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 3: So friends of Misslle Jones, she's a pretty vivacious thirty

480
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 3: seven year old executive at the Golf Channel in Orlando,

481
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 3: were worried because they couldn't reach her, which is like

482
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 3: the beginning of every murder story, right. Michelle's aunt and uncle,

483
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 3: Charlie Brandt and Terry Helfrich, were staying with her for

484
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 3: a few days because they had been evacuated from their

485
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 3: home in a sea friend villa near Key West. There

486
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 3: was Hurricane Ivan was coming and they had a look

487
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 3: out of there. Michelle is like the niece and.

488
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 4: Their very ly sexy name for hurricane.

489
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 3: Sorry Ivan, Ivan, did you hear the thing about how

490
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 3: hurricane's name named after women kill more people?

491
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 4: Oh?

492
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 3: No, because they don't take them seriously. People don't take

493
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 3: them seriously when theyre named after women. Anyway, Da Da,

494
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 3: She's close with her aunt and uncle. She invited them

495
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 3: to stay with them. So Michelle's mother, who was Terry

496
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 3: the aunt's sister, called one of Michelle's friends and was like,

497
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 3: can you go check on her? So the friend finds

498
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 3: their mail overflowing newspapers from days earlier on the lawn.

499
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 7: No one's answering the door. When she knocks, the door's locked.

500
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 3: She walks around to the garage, sees lights on through

501
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,479
Speaker 3: the windows. There's cars parked in the driveway, so she

502
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 3: calls the cops. They arrived. They entered the home and

503
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 3: quickly run back out and vomit in the yard, horrified

504
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 3: by what they had found inside. So inside, reclining on

505
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 3: the couch is the body of Michelle's aunt, Charlie's wife,

506
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 3: aunt Terry. She's been stabbed seven times in the chest,

507
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 3: and then her clothes had been removed, but she hadn't

508
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 3: been sexually assaulted. In the bedroom is Michelle's body. She'd

509
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 3: been stabbed only once, but then she had been disemboweled.

510
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 3: Her heart and organs had been removed, and she had

511
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 3: also been decapitated, and her head was sitting next to

512
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 3: her body.

513
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 4: She didn't lead with that part. There's a lot. This

514
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 4: is like talking us through the house. We're going, room,

515
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 4: We're going.

516
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 3: Karen was like, should we warned people about the murders first?

517
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 3: And I was like, don't remind's way fucking worse, so

518
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 3: we should warn this.

519
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 7: So her head's next to her body.

520
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 3: The weapons that have been used in the crime were

521
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 3: the knives from her own kitchen. Then in the garage,

522
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 3: Uncle Charlie we find in a state of decomposition because

523
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 3: of the heat. Uncle Charlie's body is hanging from his

524
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 3: neck by a sheet from the rafters. He's dead. And

525
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 3: then the investigators determined that it was a suicide. So

526
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 3: there's no like it, right, I mean, there's no suicide note,

527
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 3: and there's no way of knowing exactly what happened. But

528
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 3: because of the lack of a break in or any

529
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 3: other explanation, they conclude that Charlie was the murderer and

530
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 3: it had been a murder suicide. So Uncle Charlie, I'm

531
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 3: gonna call him that because it's easier to remember him.

532
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 3: He's described by all as a mild mannered, loving husband,

533
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 3: all around good guy. They aren't they always called that,

534
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,160
Speaker 3: but he was known as being a bit of an

535
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 3: oddball and eccentric. But by all accounts, including Aunt Terry's

536
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 3: best friend, Charlie loved her very deeply and the couple

537
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 3: was inseparable. No one ever detected any problems or saw

538
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 3: a fight in the relationship or anyone's temper. In fact,

539
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 3: here's something annoying. They would make each other's lunches every

540
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 3: morning because they said that lunch made by food made

541
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 3: by someone you love, tastes better than when you make

542
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 3: it yourself. Which can you imagine that couple? And you're like,

543
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 3: can you guys shut the fuck up and just like

544
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 3: eat your lunch.

545
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 9: It sounds like like a great way to make some

546
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 9: like make your food for you.

547
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly right.

548
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 7: I want a peanut butter and jelly, but I love

549
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 7: the way it's tasting.

550
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 3: You is so much better when you do it all

551
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 3: the chores when you wouldn't freeze my chicken nuggets. When

552
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 3: the investigators began to look into the murder suicide, Uncle

553
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 3: Charlie's older sister Angela is like, hold up, I gotta

554
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 3: tell you guys something. This has been a secret family

555
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 3: secret for thirty years. Here we go yep. Nineteen seventy one.

556
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 3: Uncle Charlie is just thirteen. His father had recently killed

557
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 3: his dog during a hunting trip with Charlie. The dad

558
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 3: says he did it on accident, but he had shot

559
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 3: the Dog twice and also uncle. Charlie has some difficulty

560
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 3: with school assignments, struggling to maintain his grades, but he

561
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 3: was reportedly a really bright kid. So in the evening

562
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 3: of January third, nineteen seventy one, while his dad so

563
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 3: his dad's in the bathroom shaving, his mother, who's eight

564
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 3: months pregnant, is soaking in the bathtub, Charlie gets up

565
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 3: from his homework, randomly grabs a nine millimeter handgun from

566
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 3: his father's nightstand, goes into the bathroom and shoots his

567
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: father in the back. Then he walks to his mother,

568
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 3: who's in the bathtub. She says no, Charlie, no, but

569
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 3: he fires at her until there's no more bullets left.

570
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 3: This is really fucked up. I should have started with that.

571
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 3: I'm sorry that this.

572
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 4: That's it for everything else that's up, more or less

573
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 4: fucked up.

574
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 6: In most of your murders that you do on your shows.

575
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 4: It's exactly the same. Yeah, it's pretty right.

576
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 7: Yeah.

577
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 3: Next, he goes to his fifteen year old sister, Angela's room.

578
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 3: Angela is the one telling the cops about this case.

579
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,239
Speaker 3: He goes to her room, points the gun at her,

580
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 3: and tries to fire he didn't even know that the

581
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 3: gun was empty, and she said that he looked like

582
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 3: he was in a trance, so he might not even

583
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 3: have been aware this was like going on and his

584
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 3: gun was empty. They start to wrestle. Angela tries to

585
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: talk Charlie down. She tells him that she loves him

586
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 3: and we're run away with him, but as soon as

587
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 3: she gets a chance, she runs to a neighbor's house,

588
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: screaming for help. Charlie's mom dies, but his father survives,

589
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 3: and from the hospital bed, says he has no idea

590
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: why his son would ever commit such an act. When

591
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 3: Charlie's evaluated by psychologists, they see no signs of a

592
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 3: diagnosable mental illness. They can't pinpoint a motive for the

593
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 3: shooting at all. By all accounts, He's like, I loved

594
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 3: my family. I have no idea why they did this.

595
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 3: So they they said they were going to prosecute They

596
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 3: weren't going to prosecute him because of that and his age,

597
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 3: because he's not responsible for his actions.

598
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 7: But instead they send him to a psychiatric clinic.

599
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 3: His father visits him very often, and after a year,

600
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 3: his dad is able to have him released to his custody,

601
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 3: and the whole family moves to Florida to get away

602
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 3: from the town's scrutiny, and the murder of his mother

603
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 3: is not spoken of again, to the point where his

604
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 3: two younger sisters, who were super young when the bomb

605
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 3: was murdered, didn't even know about it. They thought their

606
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 3: mom had died in a car accident until the murder suicide,

607
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 3: when Angela told the cops they didn't know a thing.

608
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 3: Charlie gets excellent grades in school. He becomes a radar

609
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 3: technician engineer. He finds the note from the BTK killer

610
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 3: in the library.

611
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 8: That's right, that was his favorite book, referencing the old episode.

612
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 3: Oh Shit, I forgot that It's A week later, Angela,

613
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 3: his sister, marries a dude named Jim, finds out about

614
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 3: the brother Charlie murdering their mom, still becomes good friends

615
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 3: with him. So once Jim, his brother in law, and

616
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 3: Angela are getting a divorce, on the topic of revenge,

617
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 3: Uncle Charlie says, well, you know, the perfect revenge is

618
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 3: you kill someone and you cut their heart out and

619
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 3: then you eat it.

620
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 7: That's the perfect revenge.

621
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 4: Oo okah.

622
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: But Jim, despite that, sets Charlie uncle Charlie up with

623
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 3: a friend of his new girlfriend. This friend is aunt Terry.

624
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 3: After six months, they get married. Can you imagine setting

625
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 3: her fucking friend up with someone who said that No, no,

626
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 3: that's the correct answer. No, fucking tally not. Let's see,

627
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 3: then we don't know if Terry knew or not about

628
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 3: the murder of the mother. And okay, so let's go

629
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 3: back to two thousand and four. Post murder suicide, the

630
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 3: police find out about the fucked up stuff from Charlie's pass.

631
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 3: They begin to take a closer look at the murders

632
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 3: of his wife and niece.

633
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 8: So can I really quick ask a question always I

634
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 8: just don't understand.

635
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 4: As a kid, he kills his own mother, h.

636
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 8: Huh, tries to kill his father and his sister and

637
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 8: his sister, but the sister lives. Yeah, so then he

638
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 8: just goes to a psychiatric hospital for a little while.

639
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 4: And then they're just like business as usual, yeah.

640
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 3: Less than business as usual, like hiding stuff. And the

641
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 3: dad is like, the way that this is speculation that

642
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 3: could get me sued. Can I do this? Of course

643
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 3: if I preemptively.

644
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 6: We have a lawyer in the room.

645
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 4: He must have.

646
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 3: Been some shit, must have been going on in that

647
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 3: household that his dad was like, nope, I want my

648
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 3: kid out of there. Everything's fine, you know what I mean?

649
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 3: Wink wink, nudge nudge. Molestation.

650
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 8: So you think the dog thing was almost just like

651
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 8: the straw that broke the camel's back, but really he

652
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 8: was being molested. Yeah, and that's why the father wouldn't

653
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 8: turn him in because that all would come out.

654
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 5: Yeah.

655
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 3: And then we have that thing about like if someone's

656
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 3: molesting if you know, like killing the mother as well

657
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 3: is always like a really weird thing because if you

658
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 3: have an issue with your dad, why would you you know,

659
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 3: the mother would never step in that kind of thing. Speculation,

660
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 3: your honor?

661
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 6: Do you know what I mean?

662
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 3: M hm, Okay, please approach the bench, all right, Okay,

663
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 3: So they begin to take a closer look. They note

664
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 3: that the amputations inflicted on Michelle Denise were not amateur,

665
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 3: but were accomplished with skill and experience.

666
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 4: They searched the couple's house.

667
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 3: The couple's house is still boarded up from the hurricane,

668
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 3: and they find a bunch of fucked up stuff. They

669
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 3: find the bedroom door. So bedroom doors open. I never

670
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 3: closed my bedroom door when they open it on the

671
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 3: back of the bedroom door is a really creepy illustration

672
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 3: poster of the female muscular and skeletal system and she

673
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 3: has like a bun on her head and it's like

674
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 3: a cartoon drawing. It's like so creepy. It's not just

675
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 3: a skeleton. It's like a female skeleton with a face.

676
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 8: So it's like one of those weird.

677
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 7: You know that manity like a pop up book.

678
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 4: Kind of thing. Well, no, I was thinking of.

679
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 8: There was actually an art installation of a guy who

680
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 8: just like remember the thing, and I was just like,

681
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 8: that person is a serial killer that made this who

682
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 8: would want to go and like show what people look

683
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 8: like with no skin.

684
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 7: Like embalming someone and then putting it.

685
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 4: Up his art but really just skinning them.

686
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 3: Anyway, I got nauseous at that art installation quote unquote

687
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 3: and had believe it was so disturbing.

688
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 8: That one of like the human bodies.

689
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, I saw it in New York And I don't

690
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 9: have too many regrets in life. I mean I should,

691
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 9: I should, but that one is one of my regrets.

692
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, considering how much I can read and watch and

693
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 3: look at I look at crime scene photos and shit

694
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 3: like that was really fucking I.

695
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 4: Still had like hair well, and there was all this.

696
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 9: Like these ethical issues of how the bodies were were they?

697
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and apparently there was and I would do it.

698
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: And who would go to it? Like we don't need

699
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: to know that? Well, apparently Charlie did so. And also

700
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 3: despite not being in the medical profession, of course, there

701
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 3: were books on human anatomy and a bookshelf, and one

702
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 3: of them contained a newspaper clipping of a labeled illustration

703
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 3: of the human heart.

704
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 7: He also subscribed Here's What's.

705
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 3: Fucking Creepy to Victoria's Secret magazine, and it was like

706
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 3: her catalog.

707
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 7: It was like in his name.

708
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 4: It was to his wife.

709
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 3: And his nickname for his niece Michelle, who he killed,

710
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 3: was Victoria's Secret he called her, which is like, don't.

711
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 4: It's not a nickname. It does it's not shorter.

712
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 8: Name.

713
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 4: No, it's not even close.

714
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 7: They checked out his computer.

715
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 3: There was a bunch of erotica websites related to sacrifice, violence, necrophilia,

716
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 3: containing photos of torture, rape, and violent deaths, depicting female autopsies.

717
00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 3: They're all staged. Don't worry, uh, living models to look dead.

718
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 3: And they came to the conclusion that Charlie was obsessed

719
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 3: with his niece Michelle, had a premeditate and had premeditated

720
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 3: the murders, and that he was also obsessed.

721
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 7: With human anatomy, especially a female humanity.

722
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 3: Due to what they found in his house, as well

723
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 3: as the observation that the murder of his wife's wife

724
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 3: and niece seemed to be the work of a skilled

725
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 3: and practice killer, police began to look at previously unsolved

726
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 3: cold cases in the area and also in the areas

727
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 3: where he would travel for work, which he did a lot,

728
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 3: because I guess engineers travel for work a lot.

729
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 4: They train engineers.

730
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 7: Come on, toot, what's the you know.

731
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 3: They sent out a description of the mo disinboweled, decapitated,

732
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 3: clean cut, surgical precision, and they quickly got a ton

733
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 3: of hits from other police stations. So his ties to

734
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:57,439
Speaker 3: an additional murder were uncovered by not investigators, but by

735
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 3: the producers of the show for eight Hours, which is like, fuck, yeah,

736
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 3: there's a really good episode of this on forty eight hours.

737
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 3: They passed along the information of the authorities. So in

738
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 3: July nineteen eighty nine off Big Pine Key, Florida, two

739
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 3: fishermen found the body of Sherry Parisio.

740
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 4: She was thirty eight.

741
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 3: She lived in a small boat and had been seen

742
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 3: riding her bike earlier that day. She'd been in the

743
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 3: water dead no longer than twelve hours, and the site

744
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 3: her body was found at was one thousand feet away

745
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 3: from Charlie Brandt's big pine key house one thousand feet away.

746
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 3: Her head had been severed and her heart had been removed,

747
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: and Charlie resembled the sketch of a man seen crossing

748
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 3: the US one near the near by on the night

749
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 3: of the murder. And Jim, the fucking dude who set

750
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 3: them up? Who had who had set them up? Said

751
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 3: Terry told him that Charlie came home that night wet

752
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 3: and covered with blood around the time she was killed,

753
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 3: and she was like, what the fuck? And he was like,

754
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 3: I was fishing and I killed some fish, and then

755
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 3: I know, I've ember nineteen ninety five along the Miami

756
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 3: Dade County Highway that Charlie would have had to use

757
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 3: to get in and out of the keys. The mutilated

758
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 3: body of Darlene Toller. She was thirty five. She was

759
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 3: discovered in a plastic bag, and her head and heart

760
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: were missing, as well, so since then, twenty six murders

761
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 3: going back as far what as nineteen seventy three, which

762
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 3: is when his dad checked him out of the insane

763
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 3: asylum and took him to Florida, so that means he

764
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 3: was fifteen years old. They have had possible links to Charlie,

765
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 3: but six murders have been positively identified and ascribed to Charlie.

766
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 3: So Charlie Rant the fucking serial killer that I had

767
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 3: never heard of a possibility of twenty six murders going

768
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 3: back from when he was fifteen years old, two years

769
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 3: after he killed his fucking pregnant mother.

770
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 6: That's it.

771
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 4: The Head in the Heart huh a fuck they named

772
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 4: that band.

773
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, the Heart and the Hunter. Oh no,

774
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 7: there's an actual.

775
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 4: Well I've never heard of that guy. Oh right, yeah,

776
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 4: that's crazy. Yeah.

777
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 3: Oh and he was like, he looks so much like

778
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 3: my cousin. Creeps me out, Like my cousin could play

779
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 3: him in a movie.

780
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 8: I also feel like that lesson of like if somebody

781
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 8: just shoot gets up as a thirteen year old and

782
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 8: shoots a bunch of people in their family, you can

783
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 8: pretty much assume that's not going to end there.

784
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 3: No, And I think the psych psychologists were like, this

785
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 3: is gonna happen again, but his dad was like nope,

786
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 3: taking him into custody. Wow.

787
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy, man.

788
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 3: And how could there not be one little thing that

789
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 3: the psychologists found that were like, well, here's like everything's fine. Nope,

790
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 3: he just killed his parents once, but everything else is fine.

791
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 4: That's impossible, I do.

792
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, it does feel like I think maybe now I

793
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 9: like to think that there's like people are much more

794
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 9: aware of warning signs.

795
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 4: But it's disturbing that even.

796
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 9: As recently as back in the nineties, like the warning

797
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 9: signs are like, well, well, you know, people get better.

798
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 9: I suppose, yeah, let's.

799
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 4: Have a positive attitude about this guy.

800
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 7: Apartment and he'll be fine.

801
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 4: Great.

802
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, crazy, Well, thank you for your really latest

803
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 9: favorite murdered.

804
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 6: There's no real way to transition to a call from.

805
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 8: This, believe me. How do our shows are so different?

806
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 8: Our signs cimataurus stop? Okay, I'm as sad, oh I am.

807
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 8: I have no idea what the fox says, nor do.

808
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 4: I want don't either have no idea.

809
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 6: You know I'm a Gemini, are you?

810
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 8: Oh?

811
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 3: We're so much fun because we're fucking bata i saw.

812
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 4: I actually saw a thing.

813
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 8: I had a list of like the most well known

814
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 8: serial killers, and most of them are Geminis.

815
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 4: Thank you, it's Gemini or Virgo.

816
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 7: We'rego.

817
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, amazing.

818
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 3: Gemini man are specifically or particularly crazy. Gemini girls are

819
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 3: just fun drunks.

820
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 4: No, I love you all right, Well, because I'm the one.

821
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 4: Someone says that to you. It's because you're crazy, right person.

822
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 2: Okay, we're back. Do you have any updates?

823
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 3: I don't have case updates, but I also have a

824
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 3: hometown regarding the story, So here we go. Greetings, pleasantries,

825
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 3: and niceties. I grew up hearing lots of stories from

826
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 3: my father and uncle about their adventures of misspent youth,

827
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 3: growing up on military bases, stealing cars, catching venomous snakes

828
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 3: with their bare hands, sneaking into bars underage, and hustling

829
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 3: bikers at pool. But I was still wholly unprepared for

830
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 3: a casual text for my mom a few weeks ago

831
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 3: that sound out, your uncle, Kevin's old roommate was a

832
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 3: serial killer. Obviously, this was not an appropriate conversation to

833
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 3: have the a text, so over the course of the

834
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 3: subsequent phone call, my mom told me how my uncle

835
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 3: had been watching twenty twenty when he heard a familiar name,

836
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 3: the name of a man he had been close friends

837
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 3: with while working together as radar technicians in the Bahamas

838
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 3: and then later became roommates with when they moved back

839
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 3: to Central Florida. His old buddy, Charlie motherfucking Brandt. Yep,

840
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 3: the Charlie Brant who's insane story Georgia covered in episode

841
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 3: eighty three. The Charlie Brant who seemed like a totally

842
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 3: normal guy in an incredibly loving marriage, annoyingly so until

843
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 3: the day he brutally murdered his wife Terry and niece Michelle,

844
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: and then hung.

845
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: Himself in the garage.

846
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 3: My uncle said what everyone who spent time in close

847
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 3: proximity to a serial killer says. That he seemed totally normal,

848
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: save for the one instance. He told my uncle that

849
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 3: the best way to get revenge on someone was to

850
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 3: cut out and eat their heart. This was apparently a

851
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 3: belief he told to a handful of people. None of

852
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 3: them clocked it as terribly abnormal.

853
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: You had to think it was.

854
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 2: A joke, right, I mean, it's so extreme and insane.

855
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 3: How do you respond to that. He had no idea

856
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: what Charlie was capable of what he had already done.

857
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 3: All that's right because he knew him when he'd already

858
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 3: done those things.

859
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 2: Yes, and was like, this is a completely normal person.

860
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 2: That's the scary to me. That's the scariest, one hundred percent.

861
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 3: My dad and uncle are very close, and early on

862
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 3: in my parents' relationship, they would all hang out together.

863
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 3: My mom said the same thing as my uncle. He

864
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 3: was charming and handsome and sweet, and she had no

865
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 3: idea what kind of monster he truly was. When he

866
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 3: left for South Florida, they all lost touch and didn't

867
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 3: think much of him again until that episode of twenty twenty.

868
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 3: My uncle said he didn't sleep for a month when

869
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 3: he heard the details, and I can't blame him. Stay sexy,

870
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 3: don't drink and drive, and don't shack up with serial killers.

871
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: Katie.

872
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 2: She her, it's kind of like the other side of

873
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: the first Hometown. Yeah, I read where it's like the victims,

874
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 2: the experience of the victims, the loved ones of the victims,

875
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: and now it's the experience of the friends and supposed

876
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: loved ones of the killer.

877
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, just insane takes all kinds.

878
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: Thank you for sending in your hometowns. We always life

879
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: to hear them.

880
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, send them into My Favorite Murder at gmail dot

881
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 3: com if you have one.

882
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. And Okay, So now we're going to revisit the

883
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: next part of this crossover and that's where we take

884
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: an advice call with Anna.

885
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 6: Are we ready to Callia Leah?

886
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, she's in Ohio and she's twenty eight, aren't we all?

887
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Speaker 4: Hello?

888
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 6: Heyleah? How are you? It's sim Oh Hi Sam are you?

889
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 6: I'm going to introduce you to Honor right now?

890
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: Hi Leah?

891
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 9: Hi, Anna, thank you so much for you know, being

892
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 9: with us here tonight.

893
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 6: So Anna, can you introduce our special guests.

894
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 9: We have Karen and Georgia from My Favorite Murder, which

895
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 9: is an awesome HI podcast.

896
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 4: Hi, Hi, it is Hi Hileiah.

897
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 11: Leah.

898
00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 6: You wrote us.

899
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 5: You wrote us a asking if it's okay to hook

900
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 5: up with your cheating friend's ex husband.

901
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 6: Tell us your story? Did give me your stories? Kind of? Yeah?

902
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 6: It is interesting.

903
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 7: This is fun.

904
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 6: Start from the beginning.

905
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 10: Okay, So two years ago I was training a new

906
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 10: girl at the place where I worked then, and her

907
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 10: name was Jannie and she had just moved to Ohio

908
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 10: and she had moved to be with her fiance, and

909
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 10: we found out that her fiance was actually one of

910
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 10: my old friends from high school. So Jamie and I

911
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 10: we became really close. I mean we were doing everything

912
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 10: together immediately. We just got along so well, and so

913
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 10: we became friends and it was really fun. It was

914
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 10: so fun to hang out with her and her fiance

915
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 10: because you know, we had.

916
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:46,479
Speaker 4: A past history too.

917
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 10: So Jamie and dust and her fiance, they started to

918
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 10: have some problems, and I was the first person to

919
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 10: give them advice about him. We kind of lost touch,

920
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 10: Janie and I did when I started a new job

921
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 10: that was kind of farther away, but I would stop

922
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 10: in every once in a while to my old job

923
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 10: and just hear and see how she was doing. The

924
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 10: one day I stopped in and she told me that

925
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 10: her and Dustin were getting a divorce, and I told her,

926
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 10: you know, whatever I can do to help. So the

927
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 10: next time that I stopped in, she was there and

928
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 10: she looked kind of nervous, and I found out why

929
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 10: soon enough. It was because her new boyfriend was there.

930
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 10: And it was a boyfriend that she met while she

931
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 10: and Dustin were married. So they were together, and I

932
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 10: found out. She had told me then that she had

933
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 10: cheated on Dustin. She had cheated with him with two

934
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 10: different guys, and starting three months into their marriage. They

935
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 10: got divorced about a year later. So Dustin had gotten

936
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 10: a hold of me because I was kind of I

937
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 10: was going through some stuff and he was going through

938
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 10: some stuff, and we caught up and we ended up

939
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 10: starting to hook up. And I've been so torn up

940
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 10: about it because I want to be a good friend,

941
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 10: and I guess I've never been in a situation like

942
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 10: this before, so it's all kind of weird. Eventually, I thought,

943
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 10: you know, I have to at least ask her if

944
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 10: we can be friends, and so I did, and she

945
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 10: actually she hasn't talked to me since. She was so

946
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 10: mad at me for even asking.

947
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 8: Sorry, if you with Dustin exactly right, Yeah, it was

948
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 8: okay for Dustin and I to be friends.

949
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, to hang out, she got She got really mad. Yeah,

950
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 10: and we haven't talked since. So I guess that's kind

951
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 10: of where I'm at. Is Number one. I don't know,

952
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 10: is it okay for Dustin and I to be hooking up.

953
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 10: It's the best sex that I've ever had in my life.

954
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 10: Nice to me, I mean like that, Yeah I can't.

955
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, honey.

956
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 10: So there's that and then and and it's also it's

957
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 10: something that I would never ever do. I would never

958
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 10: hook up with a friend's ex in different circumstances.

959
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 7: Ever, you don't even know.

960
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 4: We've got some answers.

961
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're such a sweet cart.

962
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 7: You're not a bad person, you know what.

963
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 9: A dude would never be asking these questions. And women,

964
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 9: we beat ourselves up so fucking much.

965
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 4: Look, here's the thing. She cheated on him.

966
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 8: Uh not, it didn't even matter what she did because

967
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 8: you already had a relationship with him, You already knew

968
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 8: him before, so she was actually the new friend. And

969
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 8: then she got rid of him. So that's like you,

970
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 8: it doesn't matter what happens after that, because if that

971
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 8: relationship ends, you get to do whatever you want. And

972
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 8: her being mad at you after she cheated on him

973
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 8: and then has someone else in her life to even

974
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 8: want to be friends with him, and that is insane.

975
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 4: I think you're.

976
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 8: Going by her rules and you're kind of like taking

977
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 8: her framework of the situation and going is this okay

978
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 8: because she said it isn't.

979
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 4: It's abs a fucking lutely.

980
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 3: Okay, and it doesn't sound like someone that I would

981
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 3: really want to be friends with anyways, So you checking

982
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 3: you checking in with.

983
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 4: Her and general it's so sweet and generous.

984
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 7: But not necessary.

985
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 4: You don't.

986
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 7: You don't owe her anything.

987
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 3: And you know you guys are you're not gonna get married, maybe,

988
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 3: but you're getting your fucking sexual healing and it has

989
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 3: nothing to do with her in any way. And cheating

990
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 3: on someone's three months into a wedding, you know, that's

991
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 3: probably not the marriage.

992
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 7: It's not the first time she did that.

993
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 4: Probably it wasn't.

994
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 10: I was right.

995
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 8: It doesn't matter, It doesn't matter what she does, it

996
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 8: doesn't matter.

997
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 9: It's so true because because it sounds like, you know,

998
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 9: you might not value her friendship as much as you

999
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 9: do like other friendships or relationships, and life is fucking short.

1000
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 4: And I don't. I don't think you owe her anything.

1001
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 8: I mean, in this situation, it's I think it's interesting

1002
00:49:55,640 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 8: the idea that they broke up and that was over right,

1003
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 8: So it's not she wasn't. She didn't get this girl

1004
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 8: didn't get cheated on by the guy that you're hooking

1005
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 8: up with. So the idea that she's mad at you

1006
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 8: when She is absolutely not the victim in this situation.

1007
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 8: She she went and did exactly what she wanted. So

1008
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 8: why don't you get to because you should get to

1009
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 8: and if you want to get together with that guy,

1010
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 8: you should get to.

1011
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 4: Dude, get to know your fucking body with a man

1012
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 4: that you did. He's nice to you, and I think

1013
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 4: so far.

1014
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 7: So Yeah, I was like, I think.

1015
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 3: You wouldn't have called an asked this if you didn't

1016
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 3: know somewhere in your mind that something was really off

1017
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 3: about this.

1018
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 4: And I did.

1019
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, I felt like it was, but I was surprised

1020
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 10: that the few people that I kind of ran it

1021
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 10: by I got really a mixed answer. And I think

1022
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 10: that's what made me so confused about it.

1023
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 3: Well, people are answering based on their own history, not

1024
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 3: on the situation.

1025
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what everybody does.

1026
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, if any of my girlfriends who I cared

1027
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 3: about and loved wanted to hook up with my exes

1028
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 3: who are good people, I would be so happy for

1029
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 3: me too.

1030
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, I would too. Yeah.

1031
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 8: I think that's adult reactions. Yeah, so she might be

1032
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 8: having more of a high school reaction.

1033
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 9: It's think when you get an awesome pair of boots

1034
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 9: and your friend is like, I really like this. Boots

1035
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 9: would be okay if I also bought those, And some

1036
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 9: people would be like no, and other people.

1037
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 4: Are like, fuck, yeah, I'm so glad you like these.

1038
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 7: They're so comfortable your feet are gonna feel a maze.

1039
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, and you celebrate it like oh, but it's also

1040
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 9: the thing.

1041
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 8: I think, it's also the thing of uh the It's

1042
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 8: weird to think that you can make friends with, say,

1043
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 8: a narcissist.

1044
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 4: It's weird to think that.

1045
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 8: You could have a good time and have a good

1046
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 8: relationship with a person who's actually, deep down incredibly selfish

1047
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 8: or incredibly self serving. So I think you're having doubts

1048
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 8: because the two of you hit it off and had

1049
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 8: a good time. But maybe a lot of the reason

1050
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 8: you had such a good time with her is because

1051
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 8: the boyfriend was or who you really liked and.

1052
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 3: Maybe have liked for a long time, so he evened

1053
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 3: it out the fact that she kind of sucked.

1054
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 4: We did.

1055
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, we had a lot of fun all together, and

1056
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 10: I didn't. I mean, Shanna, I got got really close in.

1057
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 4: A different way.

1058
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 10: But yeah, I that's I've never even thought about that before.

1059
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 9: You're not a bad person. Just like you know, we've

1060
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 9: been telling you, but we have been talking about bad people,

1061
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 9: but you are not one of them.

1062
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 4: You're nowhere near it.

1063
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 3: No, and the fact that you even question if you're

1064
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 3: a bad person or not based on this, I think

1065
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 3: proves to us that you're not.

1066
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 9: You're a wonderful person. Yeah and no, yeah, yeah, like,

1067
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 9: enjoy yourself. I don't know, life is short, ye, I

1068
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 9: don't think you have to. Like, I would like encourage

1069
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 9: you to distance yourself, and you know you already have

1070
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 9: already from from the friend the gal. But but also

1071
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 9: you know, I don't know how much social media has

1072
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 9: to play in all of this, But I would also

1073
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 9: encourage like easing up on any of that is that

1074
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 9: always gets anybody into trouble.

1075
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 4: But I would. I was just like, yeah, have have

1076
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,439
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know. You're in your twenties, yep,

1077
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 4: get your nut, get yours?

1078
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, Leah, I think this is pretty obvious.

1079
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 4: Here are you okay with this?

1080
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 6: Just?

1081
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1082
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 10: I had? I mean, thank you?

1083
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do.

1084
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 10: I feel a lot better.

1085
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, we love you.

1086
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:25,439
Speaker 6: Thank you so much.

1087
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 10: I love you too.

1088
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 4: Bye.

1089
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 11: Thankye, I love you l Yeah.

1090
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: And we're back.

1091
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 4: How fun?

1092
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 3: Is that.

1093
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 1: Can we just start doing that instead of the homework podcast?

1094
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 2: I mean we can, but we're not that good at it.

1095
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: I think we're great at it.

1096
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1097
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 6: Break up with him.

1098
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: That's my advice for everything.

1099
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 2: Seriously, walk away, dump him, who cares?

1100
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: Go no contact with your mom.

1101
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,439
Speaker 2: Okay, so this episode we're going to get to the retitling. Yeah,

1102
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 2: it was, of course called the MFM and Unqualified with

1103
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 2: Anna Faris Crossover Part two.

1104
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 3: But if we were naming it today, maybe we would

1105
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 3: call it My Favorite Unqualified.

1106
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that was George's quip. Or we could call

1107
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,760
Speaker 2: it tim time sheet, which is what Anna kept saying,

1108
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Speaker 2: because she should have read the word timeline and she wasn't.

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Speaker 2: There was a typo.

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Speaker 1: What about scary movie one, two, three, four? Actress?

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Speaker 2: So funny?

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Speaker 1: Oh she's so funny.

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Speaker 2: She was so great. Anna.

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Speaker 4: We love you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having us at your home seven or

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Speaker 2: eight years ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what a fun memory to look back on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well that's it for this week's episode of Rewind.

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Speaker 1: And we'll say goodbye from Anna Ferris's house.

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Speaker 6: All right, we're coming to us again.

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Speaker 4: Wow, that's it. That's the wrap it up.

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Speaker 7: Th hes giving us the finger guys.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, so fun. Thanks for being in

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Speaker 4: my creepy.

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Speaker 9: House, in the creepy room talking about incredibly creepy things,

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Speaker 9: such a.

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Speaker 4: Creepy thing, and you gave amazing advice.

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Speaker 6: This is a lot of fun.

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Speaker 5: I mean, let's do this once a year if we

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Speaker 5: can want total for sure, once a week or once

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Speaker 5: a year, we're gonna be there.

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Speaker 6: Let's do it once. So perfect, this sounds good.

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Speaker 7: Thank you so much, Thank you so much, honest day sexy.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, let's go on and don't get murdered. That's

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Speaker 4: how we always end ours. Now you got yours. I

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Speaker 4: always say fuck you, sim fuck you, sim you sim.

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Speaker 4: Don't get murdered.

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Speaker 6: Get that everyone and they love you.

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Speaker 4: Listeners