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Speaker 1: doing it better. Welcome to another edition of the No

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Speaker 1: pm Eastern. It's still Monday, July first, twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: so Happy Canada Day again to all of y'all. For

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Speaker 1: the second time on Jay skis here in the yard

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Speaker 1: and alongside me as always Task mellists.

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Speaker 1: Also here on screen. It's the bearded one, it's my

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Speaker 1: hey you and lurking in the background, it's our super

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Speaker 1: producer JD. And a lot of people this when they

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Speaker 1: Sundays special live show. People were popping for the new intro,

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Speaker 1: which is pretty slick. Though my favorite comment was there

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Speaker 1: was a whole lot of dunks in that intro for

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Speaker 1: a show called No Dunks. Fair point, undeniably true. A

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Speaker 1: lot of throatouts, a lot of throatouts. But what an animation?

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Speaker 1: What an intro? Yeah, we're back for our third podcast

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Speaker 1: in Task You're usually good at this. What is it?

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Speaker 1: Twenty eight hours or so we were live on Sunday night,

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Speaker 1: obviously did one this morning, and here we are again

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Speaker 1: on Monday night.

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Speaker 3: Well, Clay Thompson just parted ways from the bay.

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Speaker 2: We had to get back on it.

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Speaker 4: Clay parting ways down by the bay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Did anybody really want to get on a boat today

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Speaker 1: to I don't know, celebrate or at least honor Clay

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Speaker 1: leaving gold State.

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Speaker 5: That does seem like the proper sendoff for Clay Thompson.

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Speaker 5: Somebody him taking to the bay and his boat, maybe

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Speaker 5: busting a bottle of champagne over the bow before he disembarks,

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Speaker 5: cruising around, taking in the sights, seeing the sunset one

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Speaker 5: last time. We're heading east down to Dallas. Yeahoo, And

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Speaker 5: what's the biggest lake by Dallas?

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Speaker 2: Question?

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Speaker 1: Whereas Dallas on the water?

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Speaker 1: Remember when we moved to Atlanta. I thought Atlanta was

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Speaker 1: on the water. Look, no, it's not. It is Dallas.

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Speaker 1: The same thing. You looked it up toass what's the

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Speaker 1: nearest lake?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I did?

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Speaker 6: I did because I was listening to the Ringers podcast

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Speaker 6: about Clay Thompson leaving and Rajah Bell said, I know

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Speaker 6: everyone thinks that Golden State's.

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Speaker 2: Got way more water around it.

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Speaker 6: Obviously, but but he follows Sean Marion, and Sean Marion

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Speaker 6: look like the coast. That's what Roja Bell told me.

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Speaker 6: Then I looked it up and I said number one.

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Speaker 6: I looked at Sean Marion's Instagram account. I mean, there

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Speaker 6: it looked like a cabin. It didn't look all that

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Speaker 6: you know, it didn't look all that much like a coast,

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Speaker 6: like a beach. And then then I looked it up

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Speaker 6: and it really doesn't seem all that watery. I mean

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 1: That means there's no water nearby.

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Speaker 4: Well, there's a good bass fishing nearby.

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Speaker 5: Guy's going to catch some monsters if he wants to

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Speaker 5: get out fresh water.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, we're gonna get into it. We're gonna unpack it.

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Speaker 1: review Klay Thompson. Yeah, the big big news here. He's

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Speaker 1: agreed to a three year, fifty million dollar contract with

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Mavericks. Do they have nearby water or breaking

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Speaker 1: it down? The deal?

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Speaker 6: Great Hubbard. I have to say the name of a

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Speaker 1: It's a scientology lake apparently. But anyway, the deal requires

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Speaker 1: a multi team sign and trade scenario that sends the

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Speaker 1: What are they doing? But let's actually talk about Clay

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Speaker 1: Thompson electing to go to Dallas, whether the boat comes

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Speaker 6: I always wonder what Clay was mad at the way

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Speaker 6: so Clay's going to be hanging and ready to shoot.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 6: I do think they get a little better offensively, but

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Speaker 6: I do think they get worse defensively because Clay, like

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Speaker 6: we talked about on our podcast, Trey said that he's

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Speaker 6: likely going to start. I said, no, no possible way.

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Speaker 6: This team just went to the finals. But I'm on

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Speaker 6: the side now that he probably will start. Now Derek

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Speaker 6: I do think it's different than the team that went

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Speaker 2: Washington were there three four five.

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Speaker 6: So that's interesting to me how this team is totally

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Speaker 6: different offensively, Yeah, but defensively, I do wonder now Nausey

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Speaker 6: want to call that, Clay over Tim Hardaway. This team

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Speaker 6: is damn good offensively, but I wonder if they're still

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Speaker 6: a new start and a new boat and a new

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Speaker 6: lake is gonna be great again.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you just need new water. It's as simple as that. TK.

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Speaker 1: What do you think, man, Are the Mavericks improved after

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Speaker 1: this free agency sort of frenzy here, especially adding Klay Thompson.

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Speaker 5: A lot of fish in the sea, a lot of

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Speaker 5: Klay Thompson is willing to accept as a role. Think

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Speaker 5: Dallas Mavericks. But there are going to be some matchups

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Speaker 5: where Naji Marshall is the better choice, or they want

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Speaker 5: be times when Clay is gonna have to okay, be

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Speaker 5: okay going to the bench or taking a smaller role

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Speaker 5: is he able to take that on and see that

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Speaker 5: would have to be confident that for this to work

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Speaker 5: out for the Mavericks, because Clay is not the same

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Speaker 5: movement guy, and like Tassa is saying, Clay's going to

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Speaker 4: But he's capable of a lot more.

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Speaker 5: He's got to find the perfect middle ground of doing

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Speaker 1: What's fascinating about all of this is that woe was

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Speaker 1: reported many others have that Clay had four year offers

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Speaker 1: for more money, but taking less was offset by this

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Speaker 1: chance to win his fifth championship, possibly with Dallas. Obviously

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Speaker 1: they just went to the finals. They're a good team.

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Speaker 1: They have Luca and Kyrie, and they have some you know,

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Speaker 1: state taxes, oh my goodness, it was great to see

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Speaker 1: state taxes coming back into our lives and there are

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Speaker 1: to go to the Lakers. Lebron was calling him. Mike

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Speaker 1: a Lakers Warriors deal to get Clay to LA, they

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Speaker 1: were offering D'Angelo Russell back to the Warriors, and Warriors

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Speaker 6: From it, it is fascinating. It's a little durant, like

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Speaker 6: there are gonna be different scenarios where they're gonna want

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Speaker 6: a great perimeter defender on the floor. And I know

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Speaker 6: Luca is already working out. There's videos of him doing

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Speaker 3: Cool.

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Speaker 2: Great.

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Speaker 6: I don't think that next necessarily makes me a better defender.

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Speaker 6: Look who's starting on the perimeter in Luca, Kyrie and him.

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Speaker 2: I just think it's it's.

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Speaker 6: So different from that regard but but but but maybe

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Speaker 6: excuse me, twelve months ago to be extended for two

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Speaker 6: additional years, that's forty eight million dollars he would have

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Speaker 6: gotten in that contract versus the fifty he's getting with Dallas.

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Speaker 6: So I guess it wasn't about the dollars with Clay

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Speaker 6: It's just about how it all went down, how it

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Speaker 6: all shook down with the ownership there, and the ownership

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Speaker 6: was looking towards the future, and it wasn't making Clay

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Speaker 6: It sure seems like Jason Kid's like everybody else will scrap,

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Speaker 6: You're going to be our guy, And they've put a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when you compare it to obviously the extent he

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's possible. Like again, this guy missed basically two

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Speaker 1: Yeah? And yeah, the Warriors, excuse me, The MAVs are

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Speaker 6: his Galaxy brain and maybe that's why the Celtics are

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Speaker 6: the same time, they are good. They just released a

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Speaker 6: Clay's legacy will live on forever and we look forward

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Speaker 4: That's one of my favorite Marvel franchises.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, was that one good I

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Speaker 5: Yeah, too hard to keep track of where they were

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Speaker 1: So the MAVs off season so far to go back

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Speaker 1: know you love yourself some Josh Green, but he's gone.

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Speaker 1: It is one of these like, Okay, they're sort of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think ultimately it's probably a lateral move.

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Speaker 4: Like some of the guys that Dallas got are better.

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Speaker 5: At some things than the guys they sent out were,

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Speaker 5: but they're gonna miss some of the things the old

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Speaker 5: I think that being said, it's pretty easy to see

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Speaker 5: a pass from Luka Doncich and they're screaming in each

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Speaker 5: That's maybe a higher ceiling with Klay Thompson out there,

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Speaker 4: But you know, over the course.

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Speaker 5: Of eighty two games in a regular season, it probably

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Speaker 5: the way teams are beefing up, some teams going down

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Speaker 1: Tass, do you have a favorite Klay Thompson like memory

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Speaker 1: of him with the Golden State Warriors game, funny anecdote,

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Speaker 1: you know, performance, whatever does anything like immediately pop into

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Speaker 1: iconic player. Of course, we've covered this leap for a

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Speaker 1: after thirteen seasons leaving with the four championships, But what

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Speaker 6: Yeah, when you said the moments, you know, you think

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Speaker 6: on the court. But there's lots of funny moments too.

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Speaker 6: I mean on the court, it's probably twenty sixteen game six,

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Speaker 6: that conference final. I mean there's so many you know,

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Speaker 6: then just signing toasters and just you know, being being

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Speaker 2: So both sides, both sides.

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Speaker 1: Man, yeah, on and off the court. I was sharing

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Speaker 1: Just get starts on scaffolding in New York. It's a

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Speaker 1: But man, five hundred and eighteen wins in the regular

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Speaker 1: that's like six the most all time. They have nearly

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Speaker 1: most by a trio. Six finals appearance, four championships. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's tied the four championships with Duncan Genobili and Tony

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Speaker 1: over the last fifty seasons. It's it's iconic. It's an

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Speaker 1: Mass play the Warriors. It just this and it'll be

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Speaker 4: Tray gotta be.

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Speaker 5: A Christmas game. Seems too good to meet Klay Thompson

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Speaker 5: so maybe they can open the season as well. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: hope that Clay Thompson does get to have some moments

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about this angle of this whole Clay

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Speaker 6: No, As Trey was saying about the Western Conference teams

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Speaker 6: Warriors losing Clay they're just grabbing these little parts, these

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Speaker 6: So yeah, it's becoming it's it's becoming. Yeah, Like the

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Speaker 5: They're a playing team. Again, the Lakers right now are

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Speaker 4: And nobody bit like.

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Speaker 5: Lebron James setup. Kyrie Irving is the co star. There's

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Speaker 5: a big ball handling forward who controls the entire offense.

438
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Speaker 5: They've got shooters, they've got defense, Klay said. Dallas is

439
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Speaker 5: closer to a title right now because the Lakers haven't

440
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Speaker 5: done anything yet today, nor really have the Warriors, though

441
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Speaker 5: they did save things a little bit getting d Anthony Mountain.

442
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Speaker 5: But yeah, it's a and then a disappointing start of

443
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Speaker 5: the offseason I think for the Lakers, which is why

444
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Speaker 5: they have to be in on DeRozan right now. They

445
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Speaker 5: need something besides bringing in Brownie James with the fifty

446
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Speaker 5: fifth pick and Dalton Connects wearing the Connect four jersey.

447
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Speaker 1: Yeah, DeRozan is, like, I mean, he's getting down to

448
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 1: one of the last names as a potential non taxpayer

449
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Speaker 1: mid level exception candidate that the Lakers could get that

450
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Speaker 1: maybe Lebron would be willing to take less for because

451
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Speaker 1: otherwise all those guys that he had sort of pitched,

452
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Speaker 1: hey you get a Valentotis, Hey you get a Clay,

453
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Speaker 1: Hey you get so and so maybe I'll take the

454
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Speaker 1: pay cut. And it's like nope, nope, nope. So we're

455
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Speaker 1: down to DeRozan. There are other shooters like Gary Trent, Junior,

456
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Speaker 1: Buddy Healed, Like nothing that's really gonna move the needle

457
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Speaker 1: all that much that maybe the Lakers could sort of

458
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Speaker 1: salvage this. But yeah, they basically once they signed Lebron,

459
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Speaker 1: they got their fifteen guys too. That's the whole other part.

460
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Speaker 1: They would have to like, you know, package some of

461
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Speaker 1: those guys together to create an empty roster spot. So

462
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Speaker 1: it's are you disappointing? Especially when we saw Lebron saying, hey,

463
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Speaker 1: I'll do this if we can improve the team, and

464
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: they and they haven't tasked. But let's get to the

465
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Speaker 1: de Anthony Milton signing one year, twelve point eight million,

466
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Speaker 1: he's going to the Warriors. You excited by that? At all?

467
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Speaker 2: Tasks?

468
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Speaker 1: After of course they lose Clay and look, they might

469
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Speaker 1: not be done. They're still trying that. I know a

470
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Speaker 1: lot of lowry marketing sort of trade rumors. Could they

471
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Speaker 1: put together a package for him, But what do you

472
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Speaker 1: think about Milton.

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Speaker 6: I do think the Philadelphia seventy six ers would like

474
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Speaker 6: to have him. He is a guy who has the

475
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Speaker 6: perfect playoff type of guy you can just fill in.

476
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Speaker 6: But then as far as the Warriors go, this team

477
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Speaker 6: is a team that is going to definitely, definitely be

478
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Speaker 6: all about Steph Curry because beyond that, what is there

479
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Speaker 6: There's Aaron Wiggins who has become a totally different player,

480
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Speaker 6: and there is the potential of Jonathan kaminga Andrews.

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Speaker 1: You got the wrong Wiggins.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Oh excuse me? Did I say Aaron Wiggins at

483
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Speaker 6: this time at night? It's maybe it's because the shows

484
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Speaker 6: are twenty nine hours apart, but really it's Wiggins, Kamiga

485
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Speaker 6: and Pods.

486
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Speaker 3: That's it.

487
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Speaker 6: And so, you know, no disrespect to Dream Angry, but

488
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Speaker 6: I'm talking about this team that is supposed to be

489
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Speaker 6: rallying around together. It ain't gonna be d Anthony Melton

490
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Speaker 6: that brings them up into this different stratosphere. I just

491
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Speaker 6: said Aaron Wiggins, think about the team that he's on.

492
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Speaker 6: And Okay, see in Minnesota, and obviously Denver still has

493
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Speaker 6: to be respected and Dallas like they are in It's

494
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Speaker 6: it's a different world than Golden State. I mean, I

495
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Speaker 6: don't know what Steph's feeling over there, but it can't

496
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Speaker 6: be good because this is gonna be a pretty pretty

497
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Speaker 6: bleak time for him. I mean, it's really as bleak

498
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Speaker 6: as it was when he first joined the team, you know,

499
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Speaker 6: when it was a different era. It was like him

500
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Speaker 6: and Montelis. It really hasn't been this bad in a

501
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Speaker 6: long time.

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Speaker 1: M know, what do you think? TK?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Melton is a kind of a fine

504
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Speaker 5: save for losing Klay Thompson. They literally are getting two

505
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Speaker 5: second round draft pack picks back for Klay Thompson. I

506
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Speaker 5: was surprised that they didn't want Josh Green back in

507
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 5: the deal for Klay Thompson this, you know, the way

508
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Speaker 5: with Josh Green ended up in Charlotte. I thought that

509
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Speaker 5: Josh Green would be okay, you know, next to Steph Curry.

510
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 5: But yeah, this team isn't good enough right now, which

511
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Speaker 5: is why they have to hope that they can come

512
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Speaker 5: through with some kind of hail Mary for Lowry markin

513
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Speaker 5: and doesn't seem likely to me, but at this point,

514
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Speaker 5: the Warriors and the Lakers are running out of ways

515
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Speaker 5: to get a lot better with these stars that are

516
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Speaker 5: in the late late prime years of their career. If

517
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Speaker 5: you want to make one more run at a championship

518
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Speaker 5: with either Steph or Lebron, the teams they have around

519
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 5: him right now just aren't good enough, and the players

520
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Speaker 5: that are available probably don't take them over the top.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it is funny that they're both like in

522
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Speaker 1: a weird way jockeying for that position and maybe guys

523
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Speaker 1: to make the move for or even like, hey, no,

524
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Speaker 1: we don't want to send you Klay Thompson because that's

525
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: gonna help you, or this idea that we've heard for

526
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: a while, you know, Draymond Green eventually teaming up with

527
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Speaker 1: Lebron and so we don't want to do that. That's

528
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Speaker 1: going to help you, hurt us and all this. Yeah,

529
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Speaker 1: this is like depressing if you were a Steph Curry fan.

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Speaker 1: This has been a brutal, brutal free agency, Like they've

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Speaker 1: got nothing. I'm sorry. The Anthony Melton he's fine. I

532
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Speaker 1: know he was injured, so you can almost like throw

533
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Speaker 1: away this last year. But like he is he is

534
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Speaker 1: Defensively he's okay, but he is not that good. He's

535
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Speaker 1: just he's not a score by any means no.

536
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Speaker 4: Just like, guy, he's just a guy.

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Speaker 1: He's fine, like you're eighth or ninth guy. But like,

538
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Speaker 1: I think he's a little overrated personally. But anyway, they

539
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Speaker 1: got him here. It's a very obviously short deal. It's

540
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Speaker 1: a cheap deal. I get that, but yeah, like is

541
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Speaker 1: stuff going on behind the scenes? Are they talking to

542
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Speaker 1: Steph like, hey man, you know we're at the end

543
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Speaker 1: of this. We'll try and get you to somewhere. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, it would not even be considered.

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Speaker 4: There's a got any suns you want drafted?

546
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

547
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

548
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Speaker 1: How old are your kids? I mean, are they good

549
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: to go? I've seen them chuck it from deep Let's

550
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: get them in here. Uh yeah. It's it's just sort

551
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: of sad that this feels the way it's going. And

552
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Speaker 1: I guess I don't know they come into next season.

553
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: You hope KAMINGA pops. You hope TJD pops. But that

554
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: is just far fetched to the point where you can compete,

555
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 1: like you said, tasks with all these other teams in

556
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Speaker 1: the West.

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Speaker 2: I just don't see it now, I do not see it.

558
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Speaker 6: And I guess they were the only team that was

559
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Speaker 6: willing to offer twelve point eight million ford Anthony Melton,

560
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 6: because you know, I am looking back at the six

561
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 6: Yers and wondering if I over evaluated Anthony Melton, because

562
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Speaker 6: there's some there's some good times, and he is forty

563
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 6: one percent shooter from three. But because they're paying three

564
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Speaker 6: guys the max. Beyond that, it's Uber making about eight

565
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 6: million at the highest level. Then you know, going downward,

566
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Speaker 6: it's Paul Reid, Andre Drum and Eric Gordon and Ricky Council.

567
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Speaker 3: So that's it. That's all they have.

568
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Speaker 6: And so I do think they would have liked the

569
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Speaker 6: Anthony Melton, but I guess the Warriors outbid him. I

570
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 6: opened the Sixers, and you would think that there is

571
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Speaker 6: something else in the works if they're right willing to

572
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 6: pay the Anthony Melton, or maybe they're just like thinking

573
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Speaker 6: that maybe it'll happen, you know, five six months or

574
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Speaker 6: now before the trade deadline. That's that's what it feels

575
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 6: like for Dunleavy. They don't have it right now, that's

576
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Speaker 6: for sure.

577
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: Look, there's no doubt Wiggans suddenly turning into an absolutely

578
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: atrocious contract hurts the Warriors and trying to trade them.

579
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Speaker 1: They just like gave up on the Chris Paul of

580
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: it all. They're like, ah, you know what, just wave them.

581
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: We're not we don't find something that we like. And

582
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Speaker 1: it's like now they're just in this sort of like

583
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: tough spot here. I like, I'm with you, TK, I

584
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: like you hear the lowry market and rumors, it's like

585
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: for what, like what I mean, they don't even have

586
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Speaker 1: all that much draft capital like to throw at the

587
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Speaker 1: and even then, like would you I don't know, is

588
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: Lowry Marketing gonna be like the game changer to like

589
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: save the Warriors.

590
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Speaker 2: I don't.

591
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Speaker 1: I don't think so.

592
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Speaker 5: I mean, I like Marketing's fit with a lot of teams,

593
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 5: and he would obviously be great on the Warriors as

594
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,479
Speaker 5: a big who can shoot and just gets a lot

595
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Speaker 5: of three pointers up. You know, he thrives playing in

596
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 5: a five out system. They would do something similar I

597
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 5: think in Golden State. But also he's the guy that

598
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 5: literally every team that's a contender right now is interested in,

599
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 5: and a team like the Thunder if they wanted to,

600
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 5: they could easily beat a Warriors off, or the Houston

601
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 5: Rockets that they wanted to could beat a Warriors off

602
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 5: or something like that. So it just doesn't seem likely

603
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 5: to me that there's a deal to be done with

604
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Speaker 5: the Jazz for marketing unless there's somebody that Utah really likes,

605
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 5: like if there are big communa backers. But if the

606
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 5: Warriors are serious about trying to win a title, like

607
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 5: everybody should be on the table trade wise, except for

608
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Speaker 5: I'm sure Stephen Draymond, and you know Draymond just because

609
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 5: he's a staph guy. But Steph isn't like putting a

610
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 5: ton of pressure on the Golden State Warriors front office

611
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 5: the way that Lebron has throughout his career, and that

612
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 5: makes you wonder how the things are gonna end here.

613
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,959
Speaker 5: Is it going to be like you know, Kobe Bryant

614
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Speaker 5: on the Lakers where the team is just trying to

615
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 5: win forty one games.

616
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Speaker 4: And come out to see the Steph Show.

617
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 5: There was fun moments for Kobe during that era, but

618
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 5: not all of them.

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Speaker 1: That's funny you said that. I tweeted, Hey, if this

620
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Speaker 1: is sort of the Warriors iteration here, Steph go for

621
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: one hundred and one points in a game next year,

622
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: like that should be literally they should just lean into

623
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: like the hilarity of like, hey, Steph, shoot a three

624
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: every time down the floor, ninety three point attempts in

625
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: this game. Let's go get that Will Chamberwlin record. I

626
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: mean it does it feels like that. But he's like

627
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: still so good like Kobe was at the end of

628
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: his career, Like you know, this was the end of

629
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Speaker 1: the line. This is still Steph is like a top

630
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Speaker 1: ten player I think still in the NBA right I

631
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: think he's bored a line top ten players. So it's

632
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: like you still want to like put guys around him

633
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: that can give him a chance and like he gets

634
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: to it just like Lebron, like, hey, get me to

635
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: the playoffs, man, and you got me and we always

636
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: got a chance to obviously win for series. But right

637
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: now this has been a really really rough sort of

638
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: offseason here or free agency period here for.

639
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: Me. Yeah.

640
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 6: Well, if you have from the just to play Devil's advocate,

641
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 6: this team obviously underachieved last year. They were not a

642
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 6: playoff team, but a huge part of that was just

643
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 6: Draymond Green not playing because he couldn't stop getting suspended

644
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 6: over and over and over again. Choke one man, you know,

645
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 6: call a referee something inappropriate another time. So the Devil's

646
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 6: Advocate play is if he plays all eighty two games

647
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 6: with Steph Curry, this team literally could be a playoff team,

648
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Speaker 6: I guess because they will play with some Tennasy's heart,

649
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 6: but he's not reinventing Andrew Wigans, and I don't know

650
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 6: what he's doing with Kumiga, mos Moody and Pajemski. They

651
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 6: still have to make another big move, but I guess

652
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Speaker 6: all that to be said, I guess they still think

653
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 6: they're one player away, which I guess could happen, but

654
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 6: it doesn't seem that way.

655
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: That player will not be Zach Lavine. I'll tell you

656
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: that much. All right, Let's move to the Celtics here.

657
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: The Celtic's had a busy day. Man, Holy crap. They

658
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: are locking in Jason Tatum on a record deal, finalizing

659
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: a five year, three hundred and fourteen million dollars super

660
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: maximum contract extension with the team through the twenty nine

661
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: thirty season. The deal, once is finalized, will be the

662
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: largest in NBA history. The specific figure, it's an estimate

663
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: based on the future calorie SAP but salary cap. But

664
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: you see here Bobby Marks with the graphic of all

665
00:32:54,280 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: graphics dropping just rubber bandcap coins yeah, and bags of

666
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: cash and coins. But he will be the first seventy

667
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: million dollar player in all likelihood and NBA history. Once

668
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: you get into that final twenty nine to thirty season,

669
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: you know the Celtics weren't done obviously. They signed Derek

670
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: White to a four year, one hundred and twenty six

671
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: million dollar contract ascension. They gave it a lot of money.

672
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: Here today, TK, none of this is surprising, but it's

673
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: still funny to see those numbers. I gotta be honest,

674
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: when you see them on a screen.

675
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean a seventy million dollar a year contract

676
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 5: is pretty wild to see. And I mean after we've

677
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 5: seen the way that the Paul George negotiations went with

678
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 5: the Clippers, how things ended with Klay Thompson and Golden State,

679
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 5: to see both of these teams basically being like, we

680
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 5: gotta be careful with the second apron. We got to

681
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 5: maintain flexibility going forward. The Denver Nuggets lost the starter

682
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 5: from a championship team. You know, everybody is cutting payroll

683
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 5: to maintain flexibility. And then the Celtics come into today

684
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 5: and said, we have an awesome top five players, so

685
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 5: we're gonna sign all of them to contracts that total

686
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 5: nearly a billion dollars unbelievable stuff. That's one way to

687
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 5: team build. You got deep pockets, pay for your team

688
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 5: that's incredible, and then sell it to the next guy

689
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 5: who actually has to pay.

690
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: Here's what you do. You give out basically half a

691
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: billion dollars worth of contracts today for the Tatum and

692
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: Derek White, and then you turn around immediately and say,

693
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: we will be selling this franchise for I don't know,

694
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: five to six seven billion. That's just smart business right there.

695
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: But task thoughts on Tatum, thoughts on Derek White, and

696
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: if you want to, like obviously chime in on the

697
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: surprising news that they are for sale in theory of

698
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 1: the Celtics at least the majority stake.

699
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 6: Yes, it is crazy to see those numbers for Jason Tatum,

700
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 6: and I guess the owners went to them after Jalen

701
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 6: Brown won the Finals MVP and they said, I don't

702
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 6: worry about now Finals MVP. We're gonna pay you a

703
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 6: cool three hundred mil very very soon, and then we're

704
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 6: gonna sell the team because you know, we peaked, we

705
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 6: won a title, and then we're gonna just go make

706
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 6: some money after we spend all the money. So yeah,

707
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 6: kind of out of nowhere that with Grossbeck decided from

708
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 6: our perspective anyways, that maybe he was thinking about for

709
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 6: a while. But yeah, listen, I love Bobby Mark's design.

710
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 6: There the simplicity of the graphic, just keeping it simple.

711
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 6: But we see every single dollar and how much Jason

712
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 6: Tatum is going to make. I wanted to go a

713
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 6: little bit further, because they do get paid every second

714
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 6: week through the regular from the beginning of the regular

715
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 6: season to the end of the regular season. Let us

716
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 6: know how much this seventy one and forty six and

717
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 6: nine hundred and fourteen dollars is divided into his twenty

718
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 6: checks or whatever it is not.

719
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: I mean, we are knocking on the door of a

720
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: guy making a million dollar every time he plays. Every

721
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 1: time he plays a game, there will be a guy

722
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,439
Speaker 1: making a million dollars. Like I don't know, shake could

723
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: be close, I guess in theory. As this continues to

724
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: go up, so crazy, could you guys hear that?

725
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, something crazy just happened.

726
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: Playing Greek music. It was for looking at Nick Page, Well,

727
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: I was looking at how bad it actually shoots, that

728
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: is what I was looking at.

729
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 6: But I thought it was like a little rocket taken off.

730
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: So that's what I heard. I heard no Greek music.

731
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: Oh maybe you didn't hear it, Trey. I don't know

732
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: what you were hearing that anyway.

733
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 4: Yeah that's what I heard.

734
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: Oh no, literally like it was like that's what started

735
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 1: playing in my cands. It was basketball reference. I don't

736
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: know why they wanted me to smash a plate or

737
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: something for the Celtics maybe being up for sale. But yeah,

738
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: that's Wick Grossbeck.

739
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 2: Go ahead, that's my ring tone. So maybe my ringtone.

740
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 6: Oh good, you saw dancing those cool Greek jerseys.

741
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 2: Though.

742
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 6: Those Greek jerseys look amazing for their pre Olympic tournament.

743
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 2: They play yet money, no tomorrow.

744
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, it all starts. He was dancing to He

745
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: was dancing to Kendricks not like us, So was he not?

746
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: I think yes he was.

747
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was pumped. So Wick grouseback. Yeah. The majority

748
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: owner and governor of the Celtics expected to remain team

749
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: governor through twenty twenty eight, according to the statement of

750
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: the Celtics released, but a majority interest of the group

751
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: is expected to be sold in twenty four or early

752
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 1: twenty five. Like this does have a lot of people

753
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: like raising eyebrows after what went on with the sort

754
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: of Cuban in the Mavericks sort of saying he was

755
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,439
Speaker 1: going to be the governor though he sold his majority steak,

756
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: but then seems like he's not, but.

757
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 4: Maybe he is.

758
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: It's really sort of confusing, and then of what's going

759
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: on with Minnesota and sort of that Glenn Taylor and

760
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: Alex Rodriguez and Mark Laurie sort of deal. So we'll

761
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: see here. Anyway, the point is they bought this team.

762
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: The Boston Basketball Partners Group what a name, founded by Grossbeck.

763
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: They bought the Celtics for three hundred and sixty million

764
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: dollars in two thousand and two, and what I'm seeing

765
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: is it's like evaluated at at least five billion. I

766
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: think it would get more than that. Personally. This is

767
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: one of the most storied franchises in all of sports.

768
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, I guess they're selling high TK. If this

769
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: is for sale, it's gonna be like eight million dollars.

770
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 5: And they've won two championships in the time that they

771
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 5: owned the team.

772
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, right, right right.

773
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 5: So at the end of it all, they're like, yeah,

774
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 5: let's go crazy we'll pay everybody. Yeah, party never stops,

775
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 5: all right, see you guys later.

776
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but I mean in a weird way that

777
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: could diminish your I guess total evaluation for the franchise.

778
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: Like some new owner's gonna come in and be like,

779
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: how much are we paying in tax?

780
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 4: Excuse me?

781
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: Excuse me? We got a billion dollar roster?

782
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 4: What Jalen Brown in Atlanta?

783
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? Eventually, eventually we had some other notable signings. Today. Uh,

784
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: let's get to the guys. I'll just lump them all together.

785
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: Going to other teams, we had Delon Wright going to

786
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Bucks one year basically three million dollars, maybe

787
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: a little bit more than that. Drew you Banks go

788
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: into the Suns two years ten million? Do excuse me?

789
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 1: He's going to the Jazz. I have that wrong? Take

790
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: that off the screen. God damnit, Elder.

791
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 3: Drew U.

792
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: Banks is a game changer.

793
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 4: Some sick oh is just absolutely furious right.

794
00:39:54,840 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: Going back to the Sun's No damn it you Banks

795
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: going to Utah, Nick Patoom going back to the Clippers,

796
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: obviously returning to lac Any of those intrigue their tasks

797
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: from guys moving here today, I.

798
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 3: Do say no I do, I know, I can.

799
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,479
Speaker 6: I definitely have something else I want to talk about

800
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 6: in the Eastern Conference.

801
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 3: But quickly, Nick Patub back to the Clippers.

802
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, they should go get Nick Patum again.

803
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 2: Drew you Banks to Utah.

804
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 6: They need another white guy, I guess, and uh, Delane right,

805
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 6: you loved Herlan Wright and they do need defense on

806
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 6: the perimeter in Milwaukee. So that's a good deal for him.

807
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. I got no issues with that one. They probably

808
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: should have got him last trade deadline, so that's fine. Yeah,

809
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 1: it's obviously super super cheap. Maybe he comes in backup minutes,

810
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: gives you the defense. He's the king of deflections. David

811
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: Aldridge called him. Put that on his basketball reference page.

812
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: I love it. He's everywhere man, long, limb guy. But

813
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: any thoughts on these three?

814
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 4: No?

815
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: No, okay, well you.

816
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 4: Guys nail that. You said all their names.

817
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: I will say something.

818
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: I even said Banks going to the wrong team.

819
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: He was, he has been. His spot is taken by

820
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 2: Mason Plumbley in Phoenix.

821
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: That's right.

822
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 6: I guess they wanted him over Drewie Banks didn't want

823
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 6: to pay him five mil. But I do think something's

824
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 6: important for Evan Mobley and Cleveland because Kenny Atkinson as

825
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 6: a new head coach his first press conference, talked about

826
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 6: Evan Mobley and how much they got to do for

827
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 6: that guy because I know we went into this offseason

828
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 6: Tree thought maybe they're going to trade Donovan Mitchell, that

829
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 6: he would be unhappy with where they're going. Well, Kenny

830
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 6: Atkinson has got a mission for that team and Evan Mobley.

831
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 6: He said, I do think we can schemetically get the

832
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 6: ball in his hands and more, and it's going more

833
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 6: in multiple ways, even bring the ball up the floor

834
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 6: in transition as a ball handler in five out situations

835
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 6: when the Cavs spread the floor with shooters. What does

836
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 6: that mean for Jared Allen featured in pick and rolls,

837
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 6: his general usage can go up and we have to

838
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 6: figure out the best positions to put him in. I

839
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 6: can't wait to get on that task because I know

840
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 6: that's a big, big part of this and that is

841
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 6: right Kenny. Just imagine Evan Mobley unleashed. I don't know

842
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 6: what it means for him and Jared Allen has two

843
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 6: guys that are in such similar spots on the floor

844
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 6: at times, so that's interesting to me. But Evan Mobley's

845
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 6: got to be He's got to be better, He's got

846
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 6: to do more. And for him to say his general

847
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 6: usage can go up, I've never heard it called general usage,

848
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 6: but it's totally true. He just needs it needs to

849
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 6: be better. So I do want the Cavs to be better,

850
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 6: and I think it starts with getting more out of

851
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 6: him and Garland obviously, but Mobley's just way better than that.

852
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 5: Well, one team with actually signing Donovan Mitchell. No news

853
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 5: of his extension yet, right.

854
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: No news of his extension. That's right, that's right.

855
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,919
Speaker 5: That could have came out immediately and it has it yet.

856
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: M team that they're gonna be battling too, obviously had

857
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 1: a first round series with that went to seven games.

858
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 1: Is the Magic And they did some work today keeping

859
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: two guys Gary Harris two years fourteen, Mili Goga Bitazi.

860
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: I know Knicks fans were pissed. They're like, damn, we

861
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: could have maybe got that guy. That could have been

862
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: a nice little backup for Isaiah Hartenstein leaving for the Thunder,

863
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: but he stays for three years twenty five million. Both

864
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 1: those guys staying with the Magic also have Aaron Holliday

865
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 1: returning to the Rockets on a two year, ten million

866
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: dollar deal, Garrett Temple returning to the Raptors on a

867
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: one year deal, Luca Garza returning to the Timberwolves on

868
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,919
Speaker 1: a two year deal. TK either on the Magic guys,

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Speaker 1: keeping these guys and sort of what they've done with

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Speaker 1: the KCP that we've already talked about on the earlier podcast.

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Speaker 1: Any thoughts here?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a big Goga Bitaz fan.

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Speaker 5: You are to see a team take us, take a

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Speaker 5: gamble out of them, you know, I mean the Bulls

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Speaker 5: could have gone for this exact same contract they chose

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Speaker 5: Jalen Smith. That's smarter, he's younger, but Goga is like

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Speaker 5: a solid third center who occasionally starts for you. The

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Speaker 5: Magic played pretty well when he went into the starting lineup.

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Speaker 5: The guy was supposed to be like a stretch five.

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Speaker 5: Now instead all he can do is grab offensive rebounds.

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Speaker 5: Pretty weird, but he's got a very very heavy beard,

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Speaker 5: very high contrast the very high motor. But Moe Wagner

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Speaker 5: opted out of his deal with the Magic as well,

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Speaker 5: assuming he's going to be returning to the team on

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Speaker 5: a raise, I think he like turned down what a

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Speaker 5: three and a half million dollar deal. They're gonna be

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Speaker 5: paying a lot to a bunch of backup centers.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like, yeah, that's true. They got a lot

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Speaker 1: of big still there in Orlando, no doubt about that.

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Speaker 1: But Go Go was good. I mean, you were talking

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Speaker 1: him up during the regular season. Have we talked more

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Speaker 1: about this guy than any other podcast? He had like

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Speaker 1: really good moments and he was playing well for them.

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Speaker 1: But it's a pretty good little little payday there for him,

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Speaker 1: I thought, And then a little I was a little

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Speaker 1: surprised with Gary Harris. I guess coming back after the KCP,

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Speaker 1: who I just said was a better version of Gary

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Speaker 1: Harris said, bigger and stronger and better. But you know,

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Speaker 1: there's there's still minutes off the bend, so they're they're

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Speaker 1: they're running this crew back with KCP.

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Speaker 2: Really, yeah, I was surprised to see Gary Harris come back, though. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I guess they are running it back.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure Goga is going to start at center at

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Speaker 6: times because he was that good. Uh, And he will

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Speaker 6: be playing for Georgia in this pre qualifying tournament as well,

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Speaker 6: starting tomorrow, so I'm sure he'll start for that team.

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Speaker 5: But otherwise, is that call he's the one who draws

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Speaker 5: up the starting lineup cards.

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Speaker 2: That's a deep.

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Speaker 1: That's a deep, best right.

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Speaker 6: Garrett Temple getting a contract with the Toronto Raptors. I

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Speaker 6: mean that guy is old, one of the oldest players

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Speaker 6: in the National Basketball Association at thirty eight, get another contract.

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Speaker 6: Good for him, Garrett Bartholomew Temple, great name.

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Speaker 1: All right, So that's basically all the news and less

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Speaker 1: woes of Shams or anybody else has tweeted anything of note.

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Speaker 1: We're sort of now now we're until you hah DeRozan

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Speaker 1: and some of these other shoe Like I said, maybe

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Speaker 1: the lowry marketing deal with the Jazz. I assume Danny

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Speaker 1: Ainge is asking for the goddamn farm for lowry marketing

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Speaker 1: and people are like, oh no, Danny man, that's a lot, man,

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Speaker 1: we can't do that. So I don't know if he'll

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Speaker 1: come down off of that. But that's what we're waiting

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Speaker 1: on again. Third podcast in about twenty eight nine hours here,

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Speaker 1: so we'll wait to see what the next big move

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Speaker 1: is or big signing. But obviously wanted to jump on

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Speaker 1: talk about Clay to the Dallas Mavericks and to talk

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Speaker 1: about the Celtics not only going up for sale, but

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Speaker 1: these big fat deals that they threw at Tatum and

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Speaker 1: White to sort of run it back. And what do

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Speaker 1: you think about the Warriors? What should they do? What

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Speaker 1: should the Lakers do? Let us know in the comments.

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Speaker 1: You're letting us know in the stream team right now.

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Speaker 1: We'd love to see that. So do that. Hit the

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Speaker 1: like button, subscribe podcast listeners five star rating and review.

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Speaker 1: Before we go, let's do a quick tweet of the.

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Speaker 3: Night tweet O the night wowt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah tweeted the night is from Dylan Hornick and it

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Speaker 1: just made me chuckle. And it's a bit of a meme,

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Speaker 1: a little breaking bad meme here we got. We got

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Speaker 1: Jesse saying, did you see who negotiated the Hardenstein deal?

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Speaker 1: And we've got what? Yeah, it was Aaron Mints and

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Speaker 1: Drew Morrison of CIA Sports. Apparently they were up all

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Speaker 1: night and into the morning negotiating with Sam Presty. Crazy shit, Jesus,

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Speaker 1: what the fuck are you talking about? In response to

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Speaker 1: Jesse's breaking bad, maybe laugh because we were joking earlier

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Speaker 1: about all the love for the agents and who was

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Speaker 1: breaking it? Who was getting that nice man?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Every woes tweet had a secondary tweet with that agent

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Speaker 1: news and who delivered it and the man's name so.

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Speaker 4: Love to read the name Mark Bartelstein, number one.

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Speaker 1: All these names we got Mince, we got Bartelstein, Morris

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Speaker 1: and we got them all. So anyway, that made me laugh.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff there from Dylan Tass. You like that part

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Speaker 1: when you get the breaking news here from the from

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Speaker 1: the guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Aaron Mince is a good name.

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Speaker 1: It keeps it fresh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just googled it.

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Speaker 6: It's just because of a tweet of the night. He's

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Speaker 6: now in my my Google history.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Heisenberg. A little confused with Jesse talking about here

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Speaker 1: and Mints getting that Heartenstein deal done. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: call it there. We're getting loopy. Too many podcasts in

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Speaker 1: too few hours. Thanks again for joining us live. Do

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Speaker 1: all what you gotta do, play your part. We really

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Speaker 1: appreciate it though. We'll be back when it calls for it.

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Speaker 1: And until then, Clipper bros. You heard it here first,

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Speaker 1: have a great time, turn up, Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for joining us, and remember Larry Markingen may or

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Speaker 6: may not be traded, who knows, But what about this

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Speaker 6: maybe getting loopy?

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Speaker 3: John Collins, what about John Collins in Utah.

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Speaker 2: Somebody's gonna want him. Somebody's gonna want him if they

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Speaker 2: can't get Lowry.

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Speaker 6: Maybe the Lakers will say, hey, we're running forward. Our

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Speaker 6: three four five is Johnny, Anthony and Lebron.

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Speaker 4: Somebody's gonna want him.

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Speaker 2: They don't want him.

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Speaker 4: Somebody gonna want him.

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Speaker 1: I think like if they were like, hey, Lebron, good

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Speaker 1: news man, we got John Collins. You're still cool with

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Speaker 1: taking that on discount, He's like, Nope, deuces, see your later, son,