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Speaker 2: Hella hellallo, Welcome to the not even Nice Show. I'm

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Speaker 2: your host, rab Shooter, and it is Thursday, which means

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Speaker 2: our dear friend Mark Lupo joins us. Hey, Loopy, are

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Speaker 2: Right, gossip before the show. Don't worry, We're not going

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Speaker 2: to leave you out. Everything we just thought it's about

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Speaker 2: good show. Let's jump in. What time is it, my friends?

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Speaker 2: It is tea time big exclusive. At the top of

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Speaker 2: the show, Chris Jenna has declared war on Anna Winter.

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Speaker 2: Anna's Winter is the longtime editor in chief are Vogue.

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Speaker 2: The Kardashian Ball is coming, so Ada Winter oversees the

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Speaker 2: met Gala every year. You know it. They call it Oscars.

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Speaker 2: Fashion's Oscars, the biggest night of fashion. I've been looking

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Speaker 2: enough to go a couple of times, and it really

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Speaker 2: is extraordinary. You see the steps outside the Metropolitan Museum,

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Speaker 2: all these celebrities climbing those steps. Well, Chris Jenna now

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Speaker 2: wants a piece of the action. And after the success,

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Speaker 2: and it was a success, her seventieth Pirty Party had

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Speaker 2: a guest list that was fabulous, it was like the

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Speaker 2: oscars after she got those together for her seventieth. Now

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Speaker 2: she wants into the party business, and I'm told the

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Speaker 2: Kardashians Chris are talking about having a Kardashian Ball in

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Speaker 2: La to rival the met Ball. It won't be the

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Speaker 2: the met Ball, except it will have the sparkle of

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Speaker 2: the Cardashians. Now I know that it was very easy.

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Speaker 2: It's very easy to make fun of the Kardashians, to

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Speaker 2: really count them out, to roll your eyes where Vogue

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Speaker 2: magazine Annah Winter is so so respectable, It really really is. However,

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Speaker 2: who would you rather have dinner with drinks with somebody

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Speaker 2: I think this sounds like an amazing idea. I would

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Speaker 2: watch it. These balls go back in American history. Truman

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Speaker 2: Capodi had his famous black and white ball. Dare I

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Speaker 2: We shouldn't talk about that. But these balls, if they

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Speaker 2: the arrivals, I think they're onto something and you can

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Speaker 2: never count out Chris Jenna, what do you think?

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Speaker 3: I absolutely love this and I will tell you why.

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Speaker 3: The world is changing, rob Everything is changing quickly and

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Speaker 3: we have to acknowledge that what worked in the past

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Speaker 3: We're tired of that. We want to see selfie is

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Speaker 3: stars are showing up. Chris's party was the biggest networking

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Speaker 3: event of the world. Like every billionaire, every major artist

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Speaker 3: was there. This is incredible. The power she has is

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Speaker 2: When she took them on, we were like, she was

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Speaker 3: It's so funny and that's why it means you get

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Speaker 2: Just want to meet the time Kathilli gived. People made

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Speaker 2: hear this first here that the Kardashian Ball is coming.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait. I think so great.

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Speaker 2: Would you rather go to the Netball or the Kardashian Ball?

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Speaker 2: You're only going to get one invite this year, Mark,

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Speaker 2: just which one? Would you rather go to? The met

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Speaker 2: Ball is extraordinary? I'm not putting it down. It's I

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Speaker 2: Mark, can we cut her a break? At some point?

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Speaker 2: Everything with Brittany. Well, I think she's right to feel

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Speaker 2: But there's some truth here. Who do you trust? I

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Speaker 2: They don't know how to trust anybody because so many

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Speaker 2: I do get really suspicious here. Brittany has paid Kevin

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Speaker 2: Is this too soon? Let's have a look. Eighty percent

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, Taylor Swift and Miles Teller are laughing off

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Speaker 3: few rumors. They're still friends, Rob. That's right. Good the

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Speaker 2: Often when you see people disappear for a minute, you think,

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Speaker 2: naughty Amy Schumer is begging photo agencies to delete all

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Speaker 2: Give me pride. I actually love it when people use

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Speaker 2: moment of starting a new novel. It's not glamorous. It's

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Speaker 2: for six months I'm going to bang out this novel

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Speaker 2: and then eventually when it's published.

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Speaker 1: ILL love that.

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Speaker 2: I love the successful part. I love the beginning when

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Speaker 2: you just have an idea. It's the grind. It's doing

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Speaker 2: it day after day. It's getting up every day and

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Speaker 2: going to work. It's getting up every day and doing

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Speaker 2: the job and nobody applauds. That is what leads to success. Hey,

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Speaker 2: my friends, that is it for today. Thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for listening to The Naughty Bit Nice with Robin

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Speaker 2: singing along. If you're going to be Nauday, you can't Telby.

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