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Speaker 2: Well, I think today we have to begin the show

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Speaker 2: by all just bowing down and praising the Lord because

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Speaker 2: it's a miracle. Praise Gavin Newsom, Praise Karen Bass, Praise

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Speaker 2: cal Trans, Praise the LA Department of Transportation, because you

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Speaker 2: know what, that ten freeways opening up real soon? What

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Speaker 2: a miracle? How did that story change in a week

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Speaker 2: so fast? All fire was early Saturday morning. Here we are,

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Speaker 2: it's Friday afternoon, and everything's going to be solved in

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Speaker 2: a couple of days. All their hard work, g yes,

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Speaker 2: could it be that day? They work twenty four to

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Speaker 2: seven on this. As soon as it happened, two hundred

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Speaker 1: Could they have intentionally exaggerated the damage to make themselves

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Speaker 2: Are you suggesting a political conspiracy.

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Speaker 1: Well, when she blurted out this morning, what a great

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Speaker 1: gift that will reopen it, great gift to Angeline with Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: right Thanksgiving, perfect name for the holiday, for the bridge,

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Speaker 1: a gift. You're the one, Karen Bass. You're the one

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Speaker 2: No, don't look over there about the homeless and the

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Speaker 1: And they played this brilliantly and I'm sure a lot

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Speaker 2: They'll hide behind the whole old playbook, which is you

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Speaker 2: don't tell them it's only going to be ten minutes,

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Speaker 1: It's sort of like that, only at a bigger scale,

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Speaker 1: So Karen Pass and Gavin Nuthsom, from beginning to end

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Speaker 1: This was illegal. They had memos out saying that we

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Speaker 2: It's still possible.

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Speaker 1: Well, if this wasn't the hate crime, they should erase

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Speaker 1: the category.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what what would qualify.

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Speaker 1: Again, if this was a white guy that smacked a

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Speaker 1: black guy with a megaphone and killed him, you know,

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Speaker 1: the arrest would have been immediate and the hate crime

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Speaker 1: would have been immediate.

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Speaker 2: So Chris Adler from Camfinans will join us after two o'clock.

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Speaker 2: I would say one of the more humorous memories I

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Speaker 2: have in all the years on KFI and the John

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Speaker 2: and Ken Show takes us back quite a while to

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Speaker 2: the day. We had a pet psychic on the show.

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Speaker 2: John had a troubled cat, remember that.

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Speaker 3: I found that take the other day.

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Speaker 2: And this woman come in the studio.

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Speaker 1: Was she on the phone? I know she'd come into

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Speaker 1: the studio. Yeah, and I brought the cat in.

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Speaker 2: You did bring the cat in. So she stared at

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Speaker 2: the cat and picked up some things about her. Harricedes. Right,

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Speaker 2: it was a Mercedes.

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Speaker 3: Mercedes was our first cat.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Mercedes was actually a nice cat. I liked

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Speaker 2: me anyway.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she was a stand offish for me.

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Speaker 1: But I forget what the woman concluded.

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Speaker 2: What Mercedes was saying about you? You weren't Mercedes was

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Speaker 2: unhappy living in our house? Oh, any specific reason, you

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Speaker 2: know what? Honest to god, I found the tape the

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Speaker 2: other day. I uh, you did, all right? Well, she'd

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Speaker 2: listen to it again and tell me what we all.

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Speaker 2: I decided to have had this fond memory of it

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Speaker 2: because we were very skepticated. I'll give it to Eric.

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Speaker 3: Maybe there's a clip in it we could play before

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Speaker 3: you go. Uh.

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Speaker 2: The Wall Street Journal says that it is really an

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Speaker 2: up and coming field of work. Don Allen, forty eight

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Speaker 2: years old from Western Massachusetts has been working. Oh, they

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Speaker 2: now call it an animal communicator. I guess pet psyche

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Speaker 2: because I'll do it for twenty five years, thirty phone

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Speaker 2: sessions a week. Charges eighty five dollars for forty minutes

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Speaker 2: with the cat. You put the cat on the phone. Yes,

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Speaker 2: you just hold the phone up. You coul probably use

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Speaker 2: a speaker phone.

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Speaker 1: At least the looney lady we had, she came in

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Speaker 1: the studio and held the cat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that was right, and you can really

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Speaker 2: get the vibe.

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Speaker 1: Tried to sense the cat's mood and disposition over the phone.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, God, there's people who will pay you. Will

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Speaker 2: You can't visit everybody. She's in western Massachusetts. You ro

486
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 2: all over the world calling her. This is why she

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Speaker 2: should thinks she's a miracle worker. There should be no unemployment.

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Speaker 2: That's why there's no excuse for for living in the streets.

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Speaker 2: There should be no reason for to be in poverty.

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Speaker 2: All you need is a phone number and tell them

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Speaker 2: you'll diagnose the cat. Eighty dollars, Is that what you said?

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Speaker 2: Eighty five dollars?

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Speaker 1: Eighty five dollars for forty minutes, forty minutes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got it's gotta work though, Eric.

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Speaker 1: People have to say, wow, that's life to So how

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Speaker 1: do you keep going? How do you keep a conversation

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Speaker 1: going for forty minutes with a cat?

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Speaker 2: You don't? You just I don't know how long did

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Speaker 2: this woman spend with your cat? Do you remember she

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Speaker 2: held the cat and just kind of we must have

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Speaker 2: done most of an hour. We started taking phone calls. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because there were people. I thought there were people calling in.

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Speaker 2: I thought she did some pet psychic work over the

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Speaker 2: phone too.

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Speaker 3: She did that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, people describe their their issues, and I don't know

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Speaker 1: she was able to divine what the cat's emotional problems were.

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Speaker 2: Nikki Vasknez, a former lawyer. She gave that up. She's

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Speaker 2: an animal communicator. She told the story of well, she

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Speaker 2: made a video about a session she did with a

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Speaker 2: dog named Albi. The dog told her this is good.

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Speaker 2: He didn't like his nickname. He didn't specify what it was,

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Speaker 2: but it made people think he was large and overweight.

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Speaker 2: She later learned that his nickname was big al. So

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Speaker 2: the dog was embarrassed when they called him Big.

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Speaker 3: Al Tell me, Debra's not a customer for this lady.

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Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't do this.

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Speaker 1: I could see you. I can't see you blow eighty

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Speaker 1: bucks a session.

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Speaker 2: No, I know, just to hear my dog say how

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Speaker 2: much they love me. I already know that.

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Speaker 3: Now you have one dog that's a little off. Oh,

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Speaker 3: any animal found an edible, well would eat it. She's

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Speaker 3: searching for drugs.

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Speaker 2: Now you're gonna blow a gasket. This woman Vasconez, thirty

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Speaker 2: four years old, lives outside of Philadelphia. Sessions are five

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty bucks for ninety minutes.

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Speaker 3: I'm changing my career.

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Speaker 2: She has a wait list of seventy six hundred people.

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Speaker 3: Wait, wait, she charges five fifty five.

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Speaker 2: Fifty for ninety minutes. The other woman was only forty minutes,

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Speaker 2: eighty five dollars. But this is more than she does anything. Dogs, cats, turtles, horses, cows, nigs,

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Speaker 2: These are even did a camel.

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Speaker 1: These are rich ladies. Well, that's nothing to do with

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Speaker 1: their money. She Oh, I think I know exactly what

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Speaker 1: kind of woman this is. Wealthy baddie husband is never.

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Speaker 3: Comes home all the time in the world on her hands,

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Speaker 3: right exactly.

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Speaker 2: Of course, they did talk to a man who has

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Speaker 2: spent fifty years researching and investigating paranormal phenomenon. He says,

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Speaker 2: it's the same as animals kicks. The successes are. It's

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Speaker 2: all about counting the hits and ignoring the missus.

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Speaker 1: Ken and I have had a joke ever since we

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Speaker 1: had the cat psychic gone that, you know, because some

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Speaker 1: talk shows are very coller oriented and they're always worried

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Speaker 1: about how many callers they get in, and it's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: if you want callers, get a cat psychic.

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Speaker 3: The lines light up, you can go on for the

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Speaker 3: rest of the week.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's only like eight phone lines. Is that

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Speaker 2: really a lot of people? But everyone's impressed, except the

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Speaker 2: lines are lit up, they're blasting.

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Speaker 1: They would always be full, though, Can we do it

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Speaker 1: again before Ken leaves?

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Speaker 3: Because I missed out on that.

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Speaker 2: No, yes, come on, no fool.

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Speaker 1: You know what, why don't you pay the five fifty?

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Speaker 3: You guys are the rich ones here.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you'd have to pay this pet psychic to come

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Speaker 2: in and do this all right. When we return, we'll

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Speaker 2: be talking to Chris Adler Cafi, who's covering the story

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Speaker 2: of the press conference in Ventoria County today about the

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Speaker 2: charges of the man accused of his encounter with Paul Kessler,

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Speaker 2: who died from hitting his head at that protest in

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Speaker 2: one Thousand Oaks, John and NKFI AM six forty Live

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Speaker 2: everywhere iHeartRadio appet remark live in the CAFI twenty four

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Speaker 2: Ken Show. You can always hear us live on KFI

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