WEBVTT - Ireland Recap

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<v Speaker 1>If you travel to the island of Ireland to play golf,

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<v Speaker 1>you can play in magnificent courses in Northern Ireland and

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<v Speaker 1>all over the Republic. We've had a whole raft of

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<v Speaker 1>champions come along, from McElroy to Lawry, to Harrington, to

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<v Speaker 1>g Mac to Darren Clark. And I used to say

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<v Speaker 1>to Americans in particular, if you travel to Ireland and

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<v Speaker 1>play golf, we'll tell you the secret of how to

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<v Speaker 1>how to produce champions which have got to come and play.

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<v Speaker 1>And for American people who might go, who might go

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<v Speaker 1>west from the States to play golf in Hawaii or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>we say we have you know se of the links

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<v Speaker 1>courses of the world, and come here and play golf

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<v Speaker 1>on the edge of the eternal Atlantic, and you are

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<v Speaker 1>in for a very special experience. Put another log on

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<v Speaker 1>the fire nobody, he's get the time. Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>fire pit with Matt Janella. We opened this episode with

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<v Speaker 1>Enda Kenny, former Prime Minister of Ireland, who we met

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<v Speaker 1>and played with at the Father Son in Waterville. The

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<v Speaker 1>first week of August. We were on an epic adventure

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<v Speaker 1>to almost all of the greats and several hidden gems

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<v Speaker 1>on the island of Ireland, and before we get to

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<v Speaker 1>the details of the trip, I want to thank our

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<v Speaker 1>friends at link Soul for their support. John Ashworth and

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Cunningham have created so much more than apparel you

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<v Speaker 1>can wear on and off the course. Links Soul is

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<v Speaker 1>a lifestyle that permeates out of Goat Hill Park in Oceanside, California,

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<v Speaker 1>where they're forging the blueprint for the best of a

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<v Speaker 1>true muni in America, and we thank them for that

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Use promo code fire Pit off your next

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<v Speaker 1>purchase at linksoul dot com. I've roamed the dunes of

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<v Speaker 1>Ireland with John and Jeff in the past, but on

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<v Speaker 1>this trip we were there as the fire Pit collect

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<v Speaker 1>working for Golf Digest and in conjunction with Tourism Ireland.

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<v Speaker 1>The goal was to come back with two journeys. The

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<v Speaker 1>first to the Southwest would celebrate the fact that the

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<v Speaker 1>crack was back. Pubs were open, musicians jamming, singers singing.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's the father Son at Waterville, the annual

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<v Speaker 1>gathering of the best of intentions, kegs of libations, and

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<v Speaker 1>countless deep connections. Here's Marty Carr, who leads this fraternity

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<v Speaker 1>of golf well started just as a as a as

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<v Speaker 1>a concept thready two years ago and it's grown into

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<v Speaker 1>something that is just in describing Mo went to be

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<v Speaker 1>honest witch and was only said m Keith Pelly last

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<v Speaker 1>night from from a son and and he was he

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<v Speaker 1>was over can get over the connection and the bond

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<v Speaker 1>and the and the friendships and how every pairing was

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<v Speaker 1>a cool pairing and every table was a cool table.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think you tend to forget that the people

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<v Speaker 1>that come here are all kind of like minded and connected,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's just incredible. It's indescribable bombs that that's

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<v Speaker 1>been created. And then you throw in the village of

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<v Speaker 1>Water and you throw in you know that the golf

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<v Speaker 1>course here, which is probably one of the greatest in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, and it's just it's a melting pot of

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<v Speaker 1>good stuff. You know. The second journey we'd come back

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<v Speaker 1>with was to the North and Northwest, and the story

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<v Speaker 1>there will be about what's new and what those new

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<v Speaker 1>courses will mean to the trip takers as they plot

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<v Speaker 1>their next Irish adventure. Here's Endy Kenny again, golfing attic,

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<v Speaker 1>who's from County Mayo, where carn Golf is located. Karn

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<v Speaker 1>isn't new per se, but what is new will be

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<v Speaker 1>a significant boost to Carn's business model, which depends a

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<v Speaker 1>lot on outside play. Karn is a is a very

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<v Speaker 1>special piece of ground and a great tribute should be

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<v Speaker 1>paid to those who had the vision to actually believe

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<v Speaker 1>that a golf course could be put there. This course

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<v Speaker 1>in Karn was owned by a number of local farmers

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<v Speaker 1>who were willing to move it on for the good

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<v Speaker 1>of the community. The course was designed by the late

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie Hackett, which I had the privilege to open when

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<v Speaker 1>it was a Minister for Tourism along with the late

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<v Speaker 1>Great Christie O'Connor Sr. And I recall Eddie Hackett saying

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<v Speaker 1>to me, this is the last course that I will design,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's the one where we've interfered with the nature

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<v Speaker 1>to the least extent possible, and that means that they

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<v Speaker 1>took the greens out of the locations where they're where

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<v Speaker 1>they're located, and the rest of the terrain is as

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<v Speaker 1>it was for millennia. So it's it's a It's an

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<v Speaker 1>extraordinary piece of ground and for those who play Karen

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<v Speaker 1>and who play golf, they want to be on their

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<v Speaker 1>game it's it's it's not in a very populated area

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<v Speaker 1>with the people are most welcoming. So I think for

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<v Speaker 1>you and your crew, I think you're in for a

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<v Speaker 1>very special experience, no more than here in Waterville and

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<v Speaker 1>many of the Lynks courses in Ireland. Khan is truly

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<v Speaker 1>special and it's a it's a kind of golf course

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<v Speaker 1>you will not see every day of the week. Well

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<v Speaker 1>twelve courses and over two thousand miles later, we lobstered

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<v Speaker 1>in a one year old wooden skiff. We cease harried

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<v Speaker 1>in search of a famous dolphin, drove a car ferry,

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<v Speaker 1>boaded into the cliffs of more Ran, along the Giants

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<v Speaker 1>Causeway and got in the huddle of a Gaelic football match.

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<v Speaker 1>Pardon the language, We're still in the game, that's and

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<v Speaker 1>it was our own fucking pond. Who are We were

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<v Speaker 1>like headless, fucking chickens when the high box You mean

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<v Speaker 1>if he had candor key and got back with a

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<v Speaker 1>cool couple of challenge but a simple as it. These

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<v Speaker 1>journeys will start dropping soon, but for now. I was

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<v Speaker 1>joined by Alex se Peggy, my longtime producer, shooter and

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<v Speaker 1>partner in the collective Colt Netler was with us who

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<v Speaker 1>we recently hired as a producer, shooter, editor and storyteller,

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<v Speaker 1>and as you'll hear in this podcast, he's a hell

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<v Speaker 1>of a player. The hosting duties of this round table

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<v Speaker 1>go to Lads Versias, who's overseeing the culture vertical of

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<v Speaker 1>the Fire Pit Collective, and Alan Schipnuk, who's also a

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<v Speaker 1>partner and the editorial director. We start with Alan, So, boys,

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<v Speaker 1>you're back in California. Welcome. How hung over are you

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<v Speaker 1>from the Guinness and just emotionally from what looked like

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<v Speaker 1>an absolutely epic trip. I think I speak for lads

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<v Speaker 1>and most of the golf world, we say the fomo

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<v Speaker 1>was real. I mean I was sitting at home going, man,

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<v Speaker 1>how did I get eased out of this trip? And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was probably universal sentiment. Even though we

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<v Speaker 1>weren't employed by the Fire Pit Collective, probably felt that

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. It's funny it never came up. We

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<v Speaker 1>lived vicariously through each of you on that trip, so

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't have any room for any more people in

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<v Speaker 1>the van. I mean we were pretty reloaded in, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know that's it. Well, speaking transportation, tell us about

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<v Speaker 1>kind of your flight over from the States arriving into Ireland.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of the protocols that you went through and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you know walk us through that, like what's it like

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<v Speaker 1>to travel and do that? Right now? I didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>pass sport until Wednesday before we left. We left on

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<v Speaker 1>a on a Sunday, I think right or left left Sunday, arrived.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get my passport till the wednesday before because

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<v Speaker 1>my passport had expired in October and because of COVID

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<v Speaker 1>like and moving, I moved from Florida to California like

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<v Speaker 1>a disaster, and and turns out I was able to

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<v Speaker 1>go five days before and get a passport in San Diego,

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<v Speaker 1>paid two d dollars to get it rushed, and got

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<v Speaker 1>my passport days before, which could have really thrown a

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<v Speaker 1>wrench into what was happening. And then I got I

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<v Speaker 1>got my my my vaccination card laminated. Now I've been

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<v Speaker 1>told since then doctors have DM ME saying getting it

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<v Speaker 1>laminated is not a good idea because you may have

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<v Speaker 1>to get booster shots and you should keep them on

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<v Speaker 1>the same card, and so laminating not a good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>So I did that. I would tell people not to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Can you de laminate. Is that a possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. You might be able to getting really hot.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that in California there's a great website

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<v Speaker 1>where you can put in all the information. You'll get

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<v Speaker 1>a digital vaccination passport that has a QV code and

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<v Speaker 1>that takes the place of a little piece of cardboard,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it will get updated over time. So I

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<v Speaker 1>would recommend anyone who has gotten VACT. It takes about

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seconds to sign up. I'm sure other states have

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<v Speaker 1>a similar director. That website Alan is referring to is

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<v Speaker 1>my Vaccine Record dot C, d p H, dot c A,

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<v Speaker 1>dot gov, which, as he says, is for California. Now

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<v Speaker 1>back to more I'm getting there, and Coult chimes in

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<v Speaker 1>with some of his travel troubles, speaking of foam all,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually experienced a little bit of that myself. Starting

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<v Speaker 1>off the first twenty four hours. I was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be over there two hours before you, guys, Land. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't end up getting there until another twenty four hours later.

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<v Speaker 1>And the seven amount of new work on I think

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday night, get on the runway, third to take off,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hour goes by not in the air and

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<v Speaker 1>up back at the gate. A couple of more hours

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<v Speaker 1>go by some tesco by yeah, mechanical, you know, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>have this up and running shore that we get you

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<v Speaker 1>over to double no problem, you know, uh, fast forward,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, every passenger now in the airport, off the

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<v Speaker 1>plane like asking questions where you're supposed to go. I

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<v Speaker 1>ran over to the Marriott of New Work, luckily to

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<v Speaker 1>get the uh one of the last rooms available. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>I pop up Twitter. These boys are having guinness. They're

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<v Speaker 1>at Valley Bun. Yeah, you know, shot like I'm supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be there, come on, give me over there. But

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<v Speaker 1>luckily enough it uh you know, a day later I

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<v Speaker 1>was able to join them. Do you like any pig trom?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you don't understand? There's a fucking Mallard duck

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<v Speaker 1>on the irarm shit I was talking to. That's Killy

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<v Speaker 1>and O'Dowd and Irish legend with the punch line to

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<v Speaker 1>a seven minute joke that's coming soon on the fire

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<v Speaker 1>Pit Collective's YouTube channel. But now back to lads, as

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<v Speaker 1>he gets us into the good stuff. So let's jump

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<v Speaker 1>to the southwest and kick us off. Tell us about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the early stages of the of the trip,

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<v Speaker 1>first courses people, whether I think we need to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about our strategy, Matt. You know, we we land. Matt

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<v Speaker 1>was expecting we're gonna start to shoot. It's anti my

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<v Speaker 1>rules of shooting after a red eye. So we get

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<v Speaker 1>to Turli and it's just kind of beat the clock

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<v Speaker 1>not to fall asleep. It was nine am when we landed,

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<v Speaker 1>took that long drive to Turley. It was like by

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<v Speaker 1>then it was like noon, so it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out at the hotel and resist the bed or

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<v Speaker 1>go hang out. So we went straight to golf course

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<v Speaker 1>at Turley and just had lunch there and walked the

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<v Speaker 1>course so we wouldn't fall asleep. But what happened to

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<v Speaker 1>your night there? Matt? Meet a couple of nice people.

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<v Speaker 1>We meet up with Cormack, one of our the Irish

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<v Speaker 1>based shooter that joined the group. Um. So Cormack is like,

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<v Speaker 1>we in order to shoot drones in Ireland, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to have a local, licensed Irish drone shooter. So this

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<v Speaker 1>Cormack is a guy I've worked with on previous journeys

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<v Speaker 1>two I think, both Morocco and Ireland, and so we

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<v Speaker 1>joined up forces with him. So he was part of

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<v Speaker 1>the crew and yeah that that night, I get a

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<v Speaker 1>call in the middle of the night. You know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>we stay up late, we try to this is key.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you gotta get a good night's sleep. Now you

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<v Speaker 1>get over jet lag. And I get a call in

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<v Speaker 1>the other night at like two in the morning, someone

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't know him in Ireland, and I never fall back

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep. I'm wide awake. So I'm on like two

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<v Speaker 1>hours of sleep right out of the gates, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>never caught up, never caught up. And now we're going

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<v Speaker 1>full bore. You know. The next morning we shoot truly

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<v Speaker 1>any in first Oh bally Bunyan at sunrise, Yeah, it epic. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>day day shoot day one. We had the most insane

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<v Speaker 1>sunrise over bally Bunyan when it was this is day

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<v Speaker 1>one where it was supposed to be raining already off

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<v Speaker 1>the gates, like a chance of rain. Basically the whole

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<v Speaker 1>forecast every day we looked said something eighty ninety or

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<v Speaker 1>a chance of showers and it looked like a washout

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<v Speaker 1>and we not trust the trust and night. What advice

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<v Speaker 1>would you give people traveling that are gonna pack, that

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<v Speaker 1>are going to face some elements, what what is it

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<v Speaker 1>that you bring to have on the golf course on

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<v Speaker 1>the trip, like that great rain here, it's rain gloves,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's two pair of shoes because if the one

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<v Speaker 1>gets wet, you need to toggle. You can't go back

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<v Speaker 1>into the wet shoes the next day. Yeah, that's death.

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<v Speaker 1>You still aren't dry. By the way, they're outside right now.

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<v Speaker 1>There are people who are my umbrella. You know she's

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<v Speaker 1>got what he asked me. He's like, dude, did these

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<v Speaker 1>ever recover? I mean, they dry out like he thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was gonna have to throw him away. Man, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about that. I I don't know about yours, but

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<v Speaker 1>mine they looking good right now. They're hold on by

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<v Speaker 1>a thread. As we continue to sprinkle in some voices

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<v Speaker 1>and sounds of the trip, meet John and Paul Anthony,

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<v Speaker 1>a father and son from South Bend, Indiana, who were

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<v Speaker 1>competing in Waterville. I asked them what they loved about Ireland.

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<v Speaker 1>The people, The people, the people. I tell every American

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<v Speaker 1>I meet you go to Ireland first and foremost for

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<v Speaker 1>the people. Walk into any pub and just start talking

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<v Speaker 1>to a local. Uh, It's it can be life changing.

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<v Speaker 1>They all want to meet you. They're all gonna make it.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna have a story about cousin Jimmy who's tending

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<v Speaker 1>bar in Boston, and and uncle Ray who's in New York. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just meet the people. I mean, it's obviously

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<v Speaker 1>we all know how beautiful it is, you know, topography

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<v Speaker 1>and everything like that, but it's the people. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a golfer, it's a no brainer. I mean, just

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<v Speaker 1>what are you waiting for? Did you see many other

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<v Speaker 1>golf tourists and can you can you speak to the

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<v Speaker 1>enthusiasm of of the Irish golf community as you guys

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<v Speaker 1>showed up because it's been you know, it's a huge

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<v Speaker 1>part of the economy there and they've they've been on

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<v Speaker 1>lockdown that's ways stricter than most other places going on

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<v Speaker 1>two years now. So what was just the energy like

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<v Speaker 1>for when when you rolled up to bally Bunning and

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<v Speaker 1>truly in these places, I've got a I've got a

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<v Speaker 1>great example that I think was itl Hinch which was

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<v Speaker 1>a little down the road, which we'll get to, but

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<v Speaker 1>in the hotel um. You know, I guess domestic tours

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<v Speaker 1>and for Ireland is doing pretty well at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, people are traveling within the country, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>at the Hitch Hotel. We're checking in and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was late at night and forgetting and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got the bags, the backpacks, heavy stuff like clunk clunk,

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<v Speaker 1>clunk up the stairs, you know, like god like checking

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<v Speaker 1>into my little card over the door. And there's a

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<v Speaker 1>guy walk behind me and uh, I think you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I said high or he said hi, and he goes, oh, American,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like yeah, He's like I've been here before.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, first time. He's like, well, you know, welcome,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is so nice to hear in American accent again.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, welcome, have a great time. Wow. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I've never gotten that before. Like it was

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<v Speaker 1>a really really nice moment. And I didn't know that's

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<v Speaker 1>how they felt, you know, it was it was an

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<v Speaker 1>honor to be there, you know, Royal County down it's

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<v Speaker 1>like thirteen to fifteen thousand sort of international visitors, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like North American uh, golfers, and I mean, you know

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<v Speaker 1>these are places that's a big number. If you take

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<v Speaker 1>that number of times, you know, two fifty or whatever

0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:25.680
<v Speaker 1>they charge, that's that's a significant impact. You know, these

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<v Speaker 1>are all sort of member based clubs where members charged

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<v Speaker 1>are charged five D seven D you know, either euros

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<v Speaker 1>or pounds a year to play all their golf. So

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<v Speaker 1>they really are dependent on outside play big time. That's

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<v Speaker 1>their whole model. And so you know, although Irish people

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<v Speaker 1>are moving around Ireland and Northern Ireland, you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>too Colt's point like this, it was I mean, Ireland

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<v Speaker 1>is always a warm reception. This was overly warm. It

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<v Speaker 1>felt like we kind of had the place to ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was crazy. I mean, they had membership

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<v Speaker 1>play and they had stuff going on, but there was

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<v Speaker 1>a it was like going to Ireland like probably what

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<v Speaker 1>it was like twenty five or thirty years ago, where

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just there wasn't a lot of Americans roaming around,

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<v Speaker 1>and but the ones who were, I'm gonna tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>had a very good experience because not only the hospitality,

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<v Speaker 1>but in terms of COVID that country is vaccinated. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they've they've they had just recently, you know, they had

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<v Speaker 1>they had Ireland had lost its music. Think about that

0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Ireland lost music that for that country and that culture matters.

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<v Speaker 1>You're showing back up. It's like some of the first

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<v Speaker 1>times that people have been playing music together in almost

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<v Speaker 1>two years. So we we had sing song sessions that

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<v Speaker 1>went to like two thirty three in the morning with

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<v Speaker 1>Pete who were like eighty years old, because it was

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<v Speaker 1>like they Ireland was getting their music back as we were,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, coming back, and masks were basically happening indoors

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<v Speaker 1>and as soon as you got sit down and it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't even that hard and fast. It was pretty like

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<v Speaker 1>just just be sensible, you know, um, have a mask,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and and otherwise otherwise guys, it was awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a few questions that have come in with

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<v Speaker 1>regard to kind of traveling to Ireland and counter Men

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<v Speaker 1>and seven asked, do you think that the Irish golfing

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<v Speaker 1>holiday represents good value for money or have they become

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<v Speaker 1>overpriced compared to other destinations that you can go to.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it just depends, I think in the South.

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<v Speaker 1>In the South, I mean, you're paying to get over there,

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<v Speaker 1>um and all that, all that goes with that, and

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<v Speaker 1>then but in the end of the day, you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>still paying. You're paying like two fifty at the best

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<v Speaker 1>places three to play the best golf courses in Ireland

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<v Speaker 1>where you're paying, you know, you're paying more than that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this is like that's the best, and it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's and that's that's the highest you'll pay really like

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<v Speaker 1>the Twilight nine rate at Pebble Beach, right, and then

0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:44.600
<v Speaker 1>you find your Criti Islands for whatever thirty or fifty

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<v Speaker 1>euro that will blow your brains out and that's like

0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:49.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, banging for your buff. I mean there it

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<v Speaker 1>is castle places like that in the North, Southwest and

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<v Speaker 1>the North. But in the North you're paying more like

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred and fifty hops two hundred dollars. Wow. So

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<v Speaker 1>in the North for like narn and Port New and

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<v Speaker 1>St Patrick's and um, I don't know, Port Rush is

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<v Speaker 1>is probably the most. You know in Royal County Down

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<v Speaker 1>are probably on the high high end, and you're still

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<v Speaker 1>you're still paying two fifty bucks and still it's still

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<v Speaker 1>less than like a mediocre course in Scottsdale. Oh I

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<v Speaker 1>think about that. Wow. No, it's I think generally across

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<v Speaker 1>the board in the North, your your average price, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna save about a hundred dollars, you know, per round

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<v Speaker 1>of golf. I ran the numbers in the South. One

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<v Speaker 1>possible itinerary using peak summer season bally Bunyan, trelle Waterville

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<v Speaker 1>and La Hinch would cost you two each. At old

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<v Speaker 1>Head it's four dollars and dukes a hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 1>seven dollars. That's six rounds for one thousand, seven seventy

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<v Speaker 1>dollars and you'd average two dollars per round. I'd added

0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:06.600
<v Speaker 1>their manner which is another four hundred and sixty six dollars,

0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:09.439
<v Speaker 1>which brings a total over two thousand for seven rounds

0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:12.840
<v Speaker 1>and an average green feet of three d nineteen dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>As for up in the North and Northwest, we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>play it on this trip, but Royal County Down is

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<v Speaker 1>top price at three hundred and seventy dollars. We did

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<v Speaker 1>play Port Rush, which is three thirty dollars our glass

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<v Speaker 1>five St Patrick's at Russa Penna a hundred and sixty

0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:36.399
<v Speaker 1>five Naarn and Port New a hundred and fifty five

0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:41.040
<v Speaker 1>carne is a hundred and eighteen dollars and Critch Island

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<v Speaker 1>is forty one for nine holes. That's seven rounds for

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<v Speaker 1>one thousand, three hundred and sixty four dollars and an

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<v Speaker 1>average of over a hundred dollars less per round, and

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<v Speaker 1>the savings of eight hundred and seventy two dollars. So yes,

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<v Speaker 1>across the board, value in Ireland is still there, especially

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<v Speaker 1>in the north and Northwest. All right, back to the conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Alex you Peggy, head of production for the collective

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<v Speaker 1>and organizer of this trip. Biggest surprise, Um, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that definitely goes with Krisch Island. We split the trip

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<v Speaker 1>into two sections. You know, when we do the show,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have two shows around the Southwest, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the theme of that is the crack is back, the

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<v Speaker 1>party is back, the good tents are back. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>then part two is the Northwest and the north with

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<v Speaker 1>the Northwest is like what's new? And as we went north,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone kept on telling us you gotta go check out

0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:43.000
<v Speaker 1>this Kritch Island. And actually, when I talked to one

0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:45.679
<v Speaker 1>of the owners of thereon in Port New on the phone,

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<v Speaker 1>probably six weeks ago, after I told him we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to go film there, the first thing he told him

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you guys have to go to Kritch Island

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<v Speaker 1>if you have time. And when we were with him,

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<v Speaker 1>he reminded us again to go to Kridge Island. We

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<v Speaker 1>had we had an extra four hours the next day

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<v Speaker 1>on our way up to Rossa Penna, so we made

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<v Speaker 1>that detour, played as a crew and it was first off,

0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:13.000
<v Speaker 1>it was blowing probably around forty miles an hour, no exaggeration.

0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:24.399
<v Speaker 1>Matt's got cell phone video we got. This trip was

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<v Speaker 1>rare where the crew we actually got to play, got

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<v Speaker 1>to play a lot. We'll get into that, but you know,

0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:36.440
<v Speaker 1>the full the entire crew, you know, Cold Matt, myself, uh,

0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Cormac as we mentioned earlier, and we had Darren driving surround.

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<v Speaker 1>The five of us played and it was it was

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<v Speaker 1>special as as people will see, this place was amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's the dirty little secret of golf travel

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<v Speaker 1>is that sometimes the itinerary is so full you only

0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:55.800
<v Speaker 1>have time to go and played five holes just so

0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:58.200
<v Speaker 1>you can get some You play the most beautiful holes,

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<v Speaker 1>you get some great scenic because on the next one

0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:02.920
<v Speaker 1>we gotta go and to actually play you know, a

0:24:03.000 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 1>full eight deen or whatever. As as a crew, that

0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:10.440
<v Speaker 1>that's a luxury and a delight. That was a luxury

0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:13.240
<v Speaker 1>and uh and incredible. I mean as far as people

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<v Speaker 1>booking their travel, I would say, I mean for us,

0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:19.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, which is work and I mean the tinerary

0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:22.960
<v Speaker 1>is is chock full of things from sunrise to sunset.

0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:25.720
<v Speaker 1>But even we still have hours here and there to

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<v Speaker 1>do things like Chrisch Island. But if you're going over

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<v Speaker 1>there and planning a trip, I mean building at least

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<v Speaker 1>half a day here and there, because you will drive

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<v Speaker 1>by places like Spanish Point look cool? Right We didn't

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we didn't go there. We didn't have time.

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<v Speaker 1>We drove by, I'm like, wow, that place looks bad.

0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:43.359
<v Speaker 1>Or the little pitch and put outside of the hinge

0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:46.399
<v Speaker 1>on the other side that unfortunately was closed. I believed

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<v Speaker 1>to COVID. Hopefully it's going to come back. Um, but

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<v Speaker 1>just I mean that would have been a blast, right again,

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<v Speaker 1>like just what the boys jump out their pitch and

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<v Speaker 1>put supposedly hardest Uh did you say that hardist hardest

0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:04.840
<v Speaker 1>links in Ireland? It's like a thousand yards Um. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just to build in, you know, opportunities to to do

0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:11.320
<v Speaker 1>just that, to explore You're you're going to drive by

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:15.679
<v Speaker 1>a place, We're like, wow, that looks interesting. We were

0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:18.719
<v Speaker 1>lucky being there for two weeks. I mean the hundred

0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 1>and fifty plus trips Matt and I have done and

0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:25.080
<v Speaker 1>shows we've done. I've never built a schedule so late.

0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:27.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean we had long drive times. I mean there

0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:30.600
<v Speaker 1>were times we had four hours to drive, but there

0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:35.240
<v Speaker 1>was a lot of time to go adventure and you

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<v Speaker 1>know that was that was just through all the trips

0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:39.560
<v Speaker 1>that we've taken to Ireland and Scotland and England, like

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:42.320
<v Speaker 1>it was necessary to do that in Ireland to to

0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:44.840
<v Speaker 1>pull this off. That reminds me of some of the

0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:47.800
<v Speaker 1>trips that Matt and I have taken with various friends

0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:52.600
<v Speaker 1>and and wingmen, and that they're the itineraries are so ambitious,

0:25:52.640 --> 0:25:56.800
<v Speaker 1>thirty six day plus drives and we were like, pull over,

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<v Speaker 1>take a picture of like a sign that would point

0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:01.280
<v Speaker 1>to a castle, Like all right, there's a sight seet

0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:03.959
<v Speaker 1>for the trip. Like all we did was eat, sleep,

0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:07.560
<v Speaker 1>play golf and drive. It was we didn't do anything else.

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 1>And it's fun. I mean that's kind of the point.

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<v Speaker 1>But you do feel like, man, I haven't quite seen

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 1>as much of this country as I should, and so

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:18.720
<v Speaker 1>it's there's that tension. I mean, if everyone everyone has

0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:21.359
<v Speaker 1>a well not everyone, but most people have a finite

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 1>amount of time between family and work and everything else,

0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:26.399
<v Speaker 1>and so you're you're trying to cram as much as

0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:29.400
<v Speaker 1>you can, but I agree like it. You do want

0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:31.040
<v Speaker 1>a sense of place and you do want to put

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:32.680
<v Speaker 1>your feet up and have some fun when when you can.

0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 1>So that's awesome that you guys made space for that,

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:37.239
<v Speaker 1>because it's not it's not easy to do it that

0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:40.560
<v Speaker 1>that schedule and get so full so fast, especially when

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:45.520
<v Speaker 1>you're especially when you're also filming a TV content. Oh yeah, exactly.

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:47.720
<v Speaker 1>So when Alex when you said the crack is back,

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:49.920
<v Speaker 1>like just for those who don't know the words, the

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Irish word, a's c R A I C and it's

0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:59.240
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like the trash talking, the fun, the nightlife,

0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:02.840
<v Speaker 1>the the in spanciality, the dwet and day like like,

0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 1>how how would you guys, how would you define crack

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:13.439
<v Speaker 1>for for those listening, Um, it's it's it's all that,

0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 1>it's it's the it's everything that's sort of Ireland is

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 1>very prideful about, which is music and uh, you know, um,

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:29.960
<v Speaker 1>it's all around you know, singing together. There are songs

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 1>they all you know, there are traditional Irish songs there

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 1>they cover you know, traditional American piano sort of pub

0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:42.800
<v Speaker 1>songs and uh, it's a big part of all of it.

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 1>It's it's um, it's the Guinness, it's the pubs, it's

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:51.959
<v Speaker 1>the music. It's the local musicians, you know, sort of

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 1>forming a spontaneous band, people chiming in like it's a

0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 1>it's the party, that's what you know, it's it's a

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 1>good crack. If the next day that was a good crack, Yeah,

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:04.960
<v Speaker 1>well what was that? That was a good party. That

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:15.119
<v Speaker 1>was good. That was good, good energy, good good vibe.

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:19.240
<v Speaker 1>That's more from a group of locals, jamming and doulon.

0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 1>We pick it back up with Colt Nedler to go

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:25.119
<v Speaker 1>back to surprises real quick, Matt, what was something that

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:28.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, I forgot what the question was, but like

0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 1>something that you know surprised you on that trip, on

0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 1>or off the golf course. Oh man, well, you know,

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 1>just going back to the whole schedule thing. I think too,

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>it's funny that Alex said, you know, like, oh, this

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 1>is the lightest itinerary I've ever booked, because it definitely

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't feel that like, I don't know what you're talking about.

0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Where are we on the same trip. Well, the granted

0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 1>the first five days when we were in Waterville, you're

0:28:57.320 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 1>on your own schedule, Waterville was chilling, but you were.

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:05.240
<v Speaker 1>You were in the shedine till two am every day,

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 1>so that was that was by your own doing that

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 1>you were busy and right down you go, you go,

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 1>you go to Ireland to go to bed at ten o'clock, like, oh,

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:18.959
<v Speaker 1>I gotta go to bed. You know, you don't go

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 1>to bed, you go to Like I did say after

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 1>the third night, I go, I have to not be

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 1>on the last bus home like I was on the

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 1>last bus for the first three nights. I was like,

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 1>this is not a good you know. But that's why

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 1>you keep You get invited back every year, Matt. That's

0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 1>why you're just punching your ticket for the next trip.

0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, you're putting in the work for all of us.

0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 1>We appreciate it. And again, so those who don't know

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 1>all the vernaculars, the shebne is kind of like I mean,

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 1>it used to be like a secret bar, like sort

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 1>of like speak easy, yeah, yeah, and now it's kind

0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 1>of just a more general term, right for a place

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 1>to go and have some fun. But back in the day, yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:08.240
<v Speaker 1>If someone has a like a basement barn that here

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>in the States that would be there should be yeah,

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 1>it's like a man. Well that's a good that's a

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 1>really good segue to be Kaplaner's question a favorite town

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 1>to sleep in combo of hotel, restaurant and of course

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>the pubs. Colt, what did you like the most? Can I?

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Can I bring it back for one second? Um? I

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 1>felt this was this was very impactful. To be honest,

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 1>the whole Father's Son I did not. I did not

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 1>realize what we were kind of getting into. I mean,

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:45.120
<v Speaker 1>this was like, you know, maybe date. This was day two,

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 1>day like one and a half for me, and we're like, okay,

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:49.719
<v Speaker 1>we're going down to Waterville for the father's Son. I'm like,

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure what that is. Let's roll, you know, like, okay,

0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>we land, you know, I slowly kind of I'm like, oh,

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Matt playing a tournament rad okay, cool? Uh. You know

0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 1>there's like fifty teams, you know, two man teams, a

0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 1>hundred people. Marty Carr. I'm sorry, I'm hearing about Marty Carr,

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:07.480
<v Speaker 1>this character who you haven't met yet and we're talked

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 1>about and um, you know, the mettal I'll leave kind

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 1>of describing that whole experience to you, but just to

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 1>just to see. You know, the relationships that that in

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 1>friendships that Matt had has over there and sort of

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 1>has cultivated over years of travel, was incredible. It's like,

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:31.120
<v Speaker 1>you have this Irish family over there that you see

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:34.120
<v Speaker 1>every single year. Friends. I mean, whether it's their kids

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>and you've see him grow up, or you know, you're

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 1>some of your best friends over there, or you know

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 1>people that you've known and gotten to play with over

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 1>the years. Um, I was like, wow, I did not

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:46.960
<v Speaker 1>know this existed over here. You know, it was it

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:49.600
<v Speaker 1>was really cool experience, not only to just be around

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 1>and then to be able to play in it was

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, that was wild. Um, to be able to

0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:59.719
<v Speaker 1>play in it. So it's cold is cult shows up

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 1>he does to the father's son. I'm not playing a

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:06.600
<v Speaker 1>practice round with Steve John, who is tournament director of

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 1>A T and T and the pure first team and

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 1>sort of you know beach. Yeah, the mayor of Pebble Beach,

0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean Monterey Peninsula runs the Monterey Peninsula Foundation essentially,

0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:24.240
<v Speaker 1>so well, you're forgetting the most important part of his resume.

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Steve John is my partner every year abandoned for for

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:31.840
<v Speaker 1>the Uncle Tony Invitational, which is the tournament that the

0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 1>Matt hosts in honor of the his colorful old Italian

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 1>uncle got him into golf, and it's one of the

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:39.720
<v Speaker 1>highlights of the golf calendar for all of us and

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 1>s J. As he's widely known in the golf world.

0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:45.640
<v Speaker 1>We've had like three chances to win, like we were

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:49.720
<v Speaker 1>always right there and he's he's a great stick. He's

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>probably a legit one or two and one of the

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:55.720
<v Speaker 1>all time characters. Let spectacular head of hair. It's not

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 1>just that Colt got to play with some rando. I mean,

0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>this is one of the all time characters. So so

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:04.400
<v Speaker 1>so I'm playing a practice film with Steve John and

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 1>he gets a phone call his son Kyle was coming in.

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Who by the way, Kyle and s J have won

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 1>the Father's Son twice. They're contended. Kyle's a stick is

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 1>a stick and uh, Kyle. He puts Kyle on like

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:24.120
<v Speaker 1>speaker phone on the sixteenth T. We're playing the back

0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 1>nine only and we're on the sixteenth T and Kyle

0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 1>basically says, Dad, I'm sorry. You know his fight had

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 1>also got canceled day before. Father He's out. Matt then

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 1>hits the Ireland journey text thread Colt, you're playing with

0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Steve John tomorrow one fifteen working on clubs game on

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:51.160
<v Speaker 1>let's go. Gets clubs from the caddy that I use

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:53.120
<v Speaker 1>from a Dare Manner who's like one of the greatest

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 1>people roaming the planets, Mark serteen. He's a great guy

0:33:57.760 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 1>us him, used him as a dair, brought him over

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:01.959
<v Speaker 1>with the father son in the last few years. He

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:03.760
<v Speaker 1>has a set of clubs. He goes, culte, you can

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 1>use my clubs. Coult uses Mark Startini's clubs. Shows up

0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:10.720
<v Speaker 1>the first tea with s J and and the first

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:14.120
<v Speaker 1>hole of Waterville and they both proceed to pump it

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:19.319
<v Speaker 1>into the hazard like both go right out out ball.

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:23.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean they're there and it's taking best ball of

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:26.799
<v Speaker 1>the twosome from day one three day tournaments. Second day

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 1>is alternate shot, third days back to best ball the twosome.

0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 1>These guys are out. I mean, I didn't I think

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 1>it was maybe at the turn on the first day,

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:39.839
<v Speaker 1>asked Matt. I'm like, he said something like what I'm

0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:42.360
<v Speaker 1>playing the next two days as well. Bear in mind

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I on before this trip, I was like, hey, if

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:47.920
<v Speaker 1>we can all play nine holes together at some point

0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:51.240
<v Speaker 1>that would be sick. I love to play nine in Ireland,

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 1>that would be awesome. You know, right off the bat

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:56.320
<v Speaker 1>they jump in play three days in Waterville for the

0:34:56.320 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 1>father's son. I'm like, sir, yes, sir at further a

0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:04.040
<v Speaker 1>couple of two of them over there in the fairway,

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:08.720
<v Speaker 1>like I'm passing them and they're like thickest thieves they're

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:12.839
<v Speaker 1>over there. I'm hearing, hey cold great, yeah yeah right,

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:16.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, yeah, you know, this is like when

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:22.320
<v Speaker 1>your girl cheats on you with like you know, through universe.

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't really need to hear all this matter,

0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Like it's a sensitive subject, like is my partner Coult

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 1>swoops in, steals them, carries him the victory. Like it

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 1>puts me in an awkward position here, like you can

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:36.320
<v Speaker 1>lay off a little bit. Nobody nobody's thinking about anything.

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:39.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, they're having fun, they're playing good. You know.

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:42.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's all Stableford scoring over there. So it's

0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:47.239
<v Speaker 1>always like it's pars two points, Bogey's one point and

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:51.360
<v Speaker 1>anything double zero and birdies are three eagles or four, etcetera,

0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 1>and so it's all you know, you gotta get to

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:56.799
<v Speaker 1>thirty six. That's par Basically, that's two points a whole

0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 1>and if you can get like anywhere, you know, thirty

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 1>eight denying all good scores. Well. Fin day three we

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 1>finished third. My partner and I finished fourth actually in

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:10.680
<v Speaker 1>the adopted category. A couple of our other friends. One.

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 1>There were some beautiful speeches going on, and Cold is

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:15.839
<v Speaker 1>shooting the awards ceremony. Oh. Yeah, by the way, he's playing,

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:17.399
<v Speaker 1>and I'm also telling you about like, hey, when you're

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 1>done or out there, got some shots. So whenever he's

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:23.279
<v Speaker 1>got playing and Ley and he's shooting, he's shooting like

0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:26.360
<v Speaker 1>the whole time everything. So and he's shooting the trophy

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 1>ceremony and they go, oh first play, Oh well, you know,

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:32.720
<v Speaker 1>unfortunately Kyle John couldn't make it. Steve John had and

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:35.239
<v Speaker 1>and Colt looks over me. He's like, did we just win?

0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Low Gross? And like and I was, and they go

0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:42.480
<v Speaker 1>and Steve John and Cold Neeler Low Gross, are you

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:46.879
<v Speaker 1>kidding me? Oh my god? That was so much fun.

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:55.960
<v Speaker 1>That was enjoys funny gross. Oh my god. With Barow

0:36:56.040 --> 0:37:03.879
<v Speaker 1>clubs clubs the three days, okay, they it's best ball

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:08.280
<v Speaker 1>to twosome and then Colt, you've got zero shots? Yeah,

0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:12.080
<v Speaker 1>And and Steve got three shots, you got two. He's

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 1>a three handicapped him to get into three days total

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:18.840
<v Speaker 1>best ballot twosome, alternate shot and best ball of twosome.

0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:21.760
<v Speaker 1>And they both are in the hazard off the first

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:25.000
<v Speaker 1>tea on the first hole and they finished seven over.

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't put everybody off. The set is all the strategy.

0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:32.160
<v Speaker 1>So Colt and s J are defending gross champions. Kyle

0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:34.960
<v Speaker 1>John might be my partner next year and Alan is

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 1>need of a new partner. At the Uncle Tony invitation.

0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:41.160
<v Speaker 1>As for Colton, Alan asked him for a wrap up

0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:46.319
<v Speaker 1>before we headed north. We're talking favorites in Southwest sure,

0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and we're talking just golf or experience, because

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:54.960
<v Speaker 1>the La Hinch experience where the whole crew plays its sunset.

0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:58.480
<v Speaker 1>La Hinch is the town. You know, we're coming up

0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:01.879
<v Speaker 1>eighteen as a seven ball, you know, trying to get

0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:03.840
<v Speaker 1>in at last light. I mean, it's just you know,

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:09.440
<v Speaker 1>it's old Tom, old Tom mackenzie, right, It's just I mean,

0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:12.319
<v Speaker 1>how can you beat that? I don't think you can.

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:14.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Lynch m my favorite golf course in all

0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:17.439
<v Speaker 1>while Ireland, the whole island. But what about you, Matt.

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:19.400
<v Speaker 1>You you've you've seen him done them. If you had

0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:21.120
<v Speaker 1>to pick one favorite in the Southwest, what's it going

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:24.160
<v Speaker 1>to be? Well, you know, the story we do on

0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 1>truly is they've they've they've really made a lot of

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 1>changes and improvements to the front nine, which was always

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 1>said to be the weaker nine and sort of you know,

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe have pulled Trulli down in the in the rankings

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 1>so speak. But I think so it's gotten better. And

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 1>then Bally Bunny. In the first time I played Bally

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Bunny and it was raining, you know, sideways blowing forty

0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:53.480
<v Speaker 1>always has could have clouded my you know, sort of

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:56.560
<v Speaker 1>impression of the golf because that's all I It's all

0:38:56.600 --> 0:39:01.240
<v Speaker 1>I really. I mean I played it again raining also,

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:04.880
<v Speaker 1>like I just I finally thought in this perfect in

0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 1>a situation, it was an epic day and uh, it

0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:14.080
<v Speaker 1>was pristine, it was an immaculate condition. And um and

0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 1>they've they've actually improved their eighteen told which is one

0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:20.080
<v Speaker 1>that I never liked. It was kind of this raw, odd,

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:25.120
<v Speaker 1>blind approach shot and uh, and and all that being said,

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:29.120
<v Speaker 1>I I just for me, you know, Waterville and La

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Hinch just it's really impossible to pick between them. I

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:39.879
<v Speaker 1>love them both. I I for different reasons. I love

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:42.520
<v Speaker 1>both the towns, I love both the golf courses, I

0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 1>love both of vibe, I love all the experience. I've

0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:48.600
<v Speaker 1>got great memories and moments of both. It's just I

0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:50.880
<v Speaker 1>can't do it. It's like pebble and cypress for me.

0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:56.200
<v Speaker 1>All Right, that's well said from the from the visitor standpoint,

0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 1>I think you know the Hinch. You're like right down

0:39:58.040 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 1>the street from the Cliffs of More, not too far

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:03.480
<v Speaker 1>from this cool little music artist town duel In. Like

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:07.759
<v Speaker 1>that area has a lot happening if you're traveling with

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:10.400
<v Speaker 1>family or you know, you just want to get in

0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:13.879
<v Speaker 1>a lot in an area. Yeah, that's a great point.

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:16.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, well, and it's it's so close to Shannon,

0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Like that's the hinches big problem. That's been a big

0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 1>thing for like the Hinch especially, Like everybody who flies

0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:25.160
<v Speaker 1>in out of Shannon goes right to Hinch. It so

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 1>you could be on the tea in like forty five

0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:30.719
<v Speaker 1>minutes from the time you land. That's a problem. Well

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:37.600
<v Speaker 1>it's Shannon Airport still closed, so there's no flights. Yeah. Um,

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:39.759
<v Speaker 1>but they take great care of us. And then we

0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:43.839
<v Speaker 1>know a local there, Antoino Looney I've you know, through

0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:46.839
<v Speaker 1>John Ashworth. I've got to know this guy who's just

0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 1>a you know, it's in a country full of characters.

0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:54.040
<v Speaker 1>This is in the top ten Antoino Looney who offered

0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 1>to take us out in his boat to be at

0:40:56.680 --> 0:40:59.400
<v Speaker 1>the base of the Cliffs of More. You know, on

0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:02.399
<v Speaker 1>the morning we're supposed to get away, and we got

0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:05.440
<v Speaker 1>sunset and again whether we're supposed to be horrible, it wasn't.

0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:07.840
<v Speaker 1>We got to go right and we we we actually

0:41:08.160 --> 0:41:14.520
<v Speaker 1>he drove the boat into the cliffs more so over

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:18.480
<v Speaker 1>over over our shoulder and and and there you know,

0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 1>we got you're in student and over this time year.

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Then you're over can Island. Where are the people? Where

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 1>do the people come to see the cliffs? Wre right?

0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:32.520
<v Speaker 1>See where the castle is there O'Brien's cast. Yeah, it's

0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:35.480
<v Speaker 1>just like get in the tower, you know. Yeah. How

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 1>long does that go? Back? Back back? Joe Joe, Brian Stronghold,

0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 1>who are going way back? I think give your own

0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:45.200
<v Speaker 1>in creation. Yeah you know, yeah, but the way back

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:49.959
<v Speaker 1>yeah wait wait, wait, wait, way back way a couple

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:52.880
<v Speaker 1>of ways. The Cliffs of More are less than an

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:55.800
<v Speaker 1>hour from Shannon Airport, maybe ten minutes from the Hinge.

0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Tickets range in price from free for kids twelve and under,

0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>twelve dollars for adults, and up to twenty two dollars

0:42:02.560 --> 0:42:06.839
<v Speaker 1>for an entire family. O'Brien's tower goes way way back

0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:15.520
<v Speaker 1>to and sits set above sea level. I mean, mind boy,

0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:18.239
<v Speaker 1>if you want to talk about surprise experiences. For me,

0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:21.799
<v Speaker 1>obviously chritsch Island is is something that we can do

0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:24.560
<v Speaker 1>a whole podcast on and probably will at some point.

0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:28.640
<v Speaker 1>But um, for me that the boat ride with ANTOINEO

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Looney at sunrise at La Hinch into the cliffs some

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:36.719
<v Speaker 1>more is something. You know, I've done the boat right

0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:41.040
<v Speaker 1>along the north of Kauai on the Nepolyi coastline, which

0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:44.919
<v Speaker 1>is spectacular and breathtaking. This is times ten of that,

0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:50.120
<v Speaker 1>all right. So so now you make the hard choice

0:42:50.160 --> 0:42:53.000
<v Speaker 1>to skip Role County down and you go to the northwest,

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:58.440
<v Speaker 1>which is really the least explored part of of Ireland

0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:02.400
<v Speaker 1>from a golf standpoint. That was the point. That was

0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 1>the point. That's what I was gonna say, What, why

0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:10.960
<v Speaker 1>why do that? And what what was the vision there? Well,

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:13.600
<v Speaker 1>it's got two new it's got you know basically there

0:43:13.640 --> 0:43:17.239
<v Speaker 1>and I portnew Gil Hans just you know, basically did

0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:22.920
<v Speaker 1>a did a total redo and Tom Doke built a

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:26.800
<v Speaker 1>course at rossa Penna called St Patrick's on what originally

0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Jack Nicholas had started as to eighteens and the project

0:43:31.320 --> 0:43:35.280
<v Speaker 1>sort of ran a foul. The Casey family was able

0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:39.759
<v Speaker 1>to buy the land. Uh, they reached out to Doke

0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:42.399
<v Speaker 1>who came over and routed eighteen holes on what would

0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 1>have been you know, thirty six. So um, the kind

0:43:47.520 --> 0:43:50.880
<v Speaker 1>of the pull to that north and the Northwest was

0:43:51.239 --> 0:43:53.840
<v Speaker 1>what's new there and what's going to be the impact

0:43:53.840 --> 0:43:57.640
<v Speaker 1>of these two new you know, I'm sort of a

0:43:57.719 --> 0:44:02.799
<v Speaker 1>modern minimalist American, you know, you know, architectural you know,

0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 1>rock stars rolling into Ireland and doing what they do

0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:09.640
<v Speaker 1>on this land. And what's that going to do is

0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 1>sort of as seismic shift, as as tea times get

0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:15.480
<v Speaker 1>booked out in the Southwest and prices are where they

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:17.680
<v Speaker 1>are and value is what it is in the north

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:21.359
<v Speaker 1>and here comes Gilhanson, Tom Doak. What is what's going

0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:26.080
<v Speaker 1>to kind of be this impact of the poll of

0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:32.000
<v Speaker 1>interest plus value to the north and the Northwest. And

0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:35.080
<v Speaker 1>that was part of what we were out to discover.

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:39.239
<v Speaker 1>We heard from end to Kenny on corn earlier. Now

0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:42.799
<v Speaker 1>meet Jerry McGuire of County Mayo, my playing partner and

0:44:42.840 --> 0:44:47.279
<v Speaker 1>guide around Carnes. Wild Atlantic Dunes. Don't cut dunes like

0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:50.040
<v Speaker 1>this anywhere, not so many of them. You've got them

0:44:50.040 --> 0:44:52.640
<v Speaker 1>here and there in the odd place. But here it's

0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:58.240
<v Speaker 1>just Saltimore incredible. When you drive from Ballina or anywhere

0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:02.759
<v Speaker 1>within the Na Bell Mullet, the ground of the flat land,

0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:06.200
<v Speaker 1>it's bog and then you come out here and you

0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:09.040
<v Speaker 1>just think you hit the moon. You stand open the

0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:11.000
<v Speaker 1>first tee box and you come out here in the

0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:14.240
<v Speaker 1>middle of what you'd call really craters, and they're cold,

0:45:14.320 --> 0:45:18.279
<v Speaker 1>built in crackers, And until you do it, you just

0:45:18.800 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 1>you have to do it. It's destination golf. When you

0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:25.040
<v Speaker 1>get here, you'll just be blown away by it. Just

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:29.320
<v Speaker 1>to clarify, carn added some holes by Jim a Eddie

0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:31.959
<v Speaker 1>Hackett to the original eighteen. Now you have the most

0:45:32.080 --> 0:45:35.920
<v Speaker 1>dramatic nine by Hackett, plus the new nine, which is

0:45:35.960 --> 0:45:40.320
<v Speaker 1>what's called the Wild Atlantic Dunes. The remaining nine holes

0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:43.760
<v Speaker 1>are the Hackett nine, which are flat and more playable

0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:47.320
<v Speaker 1>for the locals. Now back to the conversation for more

0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:50.440
<v Speaker 1>on the trip and planning out this trip. It's places

0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:53.239
<v Speaker 1>like Carn and Sligo and bally liff In that are

0:45:53.239 --> 0:45:56.160
<v Speaker 1>going to benefit from all of this this poll and

0:45:56.000 --> 0:46:00.799
<v Speaker 1>the interest here. And we stumbled into Carn, which I mean,

0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:03.839
<v Speaker 1>you want to talk about raw it's it's it would

0:46:03.880 --> 0:46:06.279
<v Speaker 1>be like Shaquille O'Neil when he was at l s U,

0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:11.279
<v Speaker 1>like just big Gangley and and like you know, has

0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:13.759
<v Speaker 1>a lot of talent, but you know, like just it's

0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:18.239
<v Speaker 1>just it's like it's just you know, just not ready yet.

0:46:18.360 --> 0:46:20.919
<v Speaker 1>You know, like it's just not ready yet. It's it's

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:26.000
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's close, and you know, it's got the

0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:29.240
<v Speaker 1>bones and the character. And then now they've got twenty

0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:32.279
<v Speaker 1>seven holes and the locals and the people who run

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:35.200
<v Speaker 1>it are basically doing it for free, and they've had

0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:38.359
<v Speaker 1>some real financial struggles that they've you know, they've kind

0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 1>of gotten through. I got to play with Enda Kenny,

0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:45.960
<v Speaker 1>the former Prime Minister of Ireland at the Father's son.

0:46:46.280 --> 0:46:49.399
<v Speaker 1>He's a local, he's a Mayo guy, the County Mayo

0:46:49.480 --> 0:46:52.160
<v Speaker 1>which is where KRN is, and he was basically all

0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:55.120
<v Speaker 1>in on you gotta go see it. Anyway we went.

0:46:55.520 --> 0:46:59.279
<v Speaker 1>It was amazing. You know, it's amazing, but it's it

0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:02.719
<v Speaker 1>needs the help of the Narro and important new and

0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:06.680
<v Speaker 1>and Rossa Pennant. It needs this pull, it needs more

0:47:06.680 --> 0:47:10.200
<v Speaker 1>outside play, it needs finances and then it has a

0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:12.879
<v Speaker 1>chance of being something really special. But right now it's

0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:19.040
<v Speaker 1>very very tough, long rough, very narrow fairways. It's massive dunes.

0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:26.280
<v Speaker 1>It's it's extreme. It's very biggest dunes in the area.

0:47:26.960 --> 0:47:30.000
<v Speaker 1>You're addressed in full cameo headed tone. Go dune hunting,

0:47:31.680 --> 0:47:34.799
<v Speaker 1>they say, they say that people tea off from Carn

0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:40.040
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes may never be seen again. The wild Atlantic Dunes.

0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:42.360
<v Speaker 1>That that's what it is. These dunes are seriously what

0:47:42.960 --> 0:47:48.799
<v Speaker 1>fifty feet tall period. It's not a no I know,

0:47:48.880 --> 0:47:51.360
<v Speaker 1>that's that's part of it. It's always had this mystique

0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:56.600
<v Speaker 1>because it is so raw. And John Getty, my former psycholague,

0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:59.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, he wrote a book Ancestral Links in the

0:47:59.239 --> 0:48:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Car and plays a big role in that. And it's

0:48:02.239 --> 0:48:04.000
<v Speaker 1>one of the great regrets of my life is if

0:48:04.200 --> 0:48:06.640
<v Speaker 1>after every year after the Open, John will go to

0:48:06.680 --> 0:48:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Carn and host people and like, I was so close

0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:10.600
<v Speaker 1>to going a few times, I've never made it. And

0:48:11.280 --> 0:48:13.400
<v Speaker 1>now he's not going over there as much. And Nelly's

0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:17.799
<v Speaker 1>retired and um, but it's it's always been fixed in

0:48:17.840 --> 0:48:20.440
<v Speaker 1>my brain. I mean, there's any place in all of

0:48:20.520 --> 0:48:22.120
<v Speaker 1>golf I want to get too car and is like

0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:23.920
<v Speaker 1>right at the top of the list. So I love

0:48:23.960 --> 0:48:26.040
<v Speaker 1>your impressions of it. It It kind of confirms everything I've

0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:30.040
<v Speaker 1>always believed. And yeah, I mean the best pint of

0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Guinness as well. Yes, so let's talk about that sidebar

0:48:33.800 --> 0:48:39.640
<v Speaker 1>in the Guinness like best yea, why is that? Like

0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:42.960
<v Speaker 1>is the Guinness different from place to place? Oh yeah,

0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:47.600
<v Speaker 1>apparently and and Guinness so if you serve Guinness in

0:48:47.600 --> 0:48:51.000
<v Speaker 1>your pub, Guinness sends people out there to clean your

0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:55.560
<v Speaker 1>lines and in quality control. Our driver, Darren shout out

0:48:55.600 --> 0:49:00.160
<v Speaker 1>there and it was a former Guinness tap linesman, not

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:03.080
<v Speaker 1>sure if that was his actual title, but he would

0:49:03.120 --> 0:49:07.480
<v Speaker 1>clean the you know the lines, Yeah, the lines. Yeah.

0:49:07.600 --> 0:49:10.839
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so Guinness does quality control at every pub,

0:49:12.600 --> 0:49:17.040
<v Speaker 1>said Darren. Said. Carnes got a great or rather a

0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:21.279
<v Speaker 1>grand pint of Guinness. Well that's interesting. We we had

0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:25.680
<v Speaker 1>this conversation. He was cold, it was it was And

0:49:25.960 --> 0:49:27.879
<v Speaker 1>by the way, I think it's also because after you're

0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:34.919
<v Speaker 1>done hiking, carn like, it just tastes true now come.

0:49:35.080 --> 0:49:40.520
<v Speaker 1>My favorite part of the whole trip about my road

0:49:40.600 --> 0:49:47.040
<v Speaker 1>I have for your mother's milk. M I'm saying, for

0:49:47.080 --> 0:49:51.520
<v Speaker 1>some reason, they taste so much better. Never once I've

0:49:51.560 --> 0:49:54.000
<v Speaker 1>gone to a bar Americans to not give me a guinness,

0:49:55.080 --> 0:49:58.319
<v Speaker 1>But in Ireland give me a guinness. Can't You can't

0:49:58.360 --> 0:50:01.920
<v Speaker 1>get the words out fast enough getting in the car

0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:06.120
<v Speaker 1>pub Guinness and father's son I was doing. I was

0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:11.399
<v Speaker 1>drinking a lot of guinness. But once we got once

0:50:11.440 --> 0:50:14.600
<v Speaker 1>we got going and playing, you know, it's kind of

0:50:14.640 --> 0:50:16.840
<v Speaker 1>slowed down because it's not like they're serving you guinness

0:50:16.840 --> 0:50:18.400
<v Speaker 1>out on the golf course. You kind of gotta go

0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:21.319
<v Speaker 1>earn it and you gotta stick around afterwards. And you know,

0:50:21.400 --> 0:50:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Jerry McGuire is the is the you know, you'd call

0:50:24.800 --> 0:50:26.719
<v Speaker 1>him the director of golf there. He does the job

0:50:26.760 --> 0:50:29.319
<v Speaker 1>for free. He was one of my favorite. I mean,

0:50:29.560 --> 0:50:32.640
<v Speaker 1>we we ran in so many amazing people. But is

0:50:32.680 --> 0:50:38.920
<v Speaker 1>it Fiona. It's Jerry and Fiona run carn and I

0:50:38.920 --> 0:50:41.520
<v Speaker 1>mean not only the best guinness, but like we had,

0:50:41.840 --> 0:50:44.719
<v Speaker 1>we had a really great meal there. The hospitality I

0:50:44.719 --> 0:50:47.600
<v Speaker 1>mean brings a tear to my eye. Honestly, these people

0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:55.399
<v Speaker 1>are as as down home quality people you'll ever come

0:50:55.440 --> 0:51:00.800
<v Speaker 1>across and uh, they were really they they you couldn't

0:51:00.880 --> 0:51:03.839
<v Speaker 1>leave Carn without I mean they touch you. They're like

0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:08.239
<v Speaker 1>that that you know you can't, like I said in

0:51:08.239 --> 0:51:10.680
<v Speaker 1>a tweet, you can't help but root for Carna, Like

0:51:10.840 --> 0:51:14.160
<v Speaker 1>this place is going to benefit from Marion in Port

0:51:14.160 --> 0:51:17.120
<v Speaker 1>New and and St Patrick's at Rossa Panna because of

0:51:17.200 --> 0:51:21.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of this this northern shift. And no one's happier

0:51:21.160 --> 0:51:23.839
<v Speaker 1>than me for for Fiona and jere McGuire and all

0:51:23.920 --> 0:51:26.520
<v Speaker 1>the people car because I love that. I love that,

0:51:26.560 --> 0:51:30.239
<v Speaker 1>all right, So now let's get to St Patrick's and

0:51:30.440 --> 0:51:33.200
<v Speaker 1>uh and the other and the hands course, like come on,

0:51:33.560 --> 0:51:38.080
<v Speaker 1>let's hear it. So after Karn was Narni Port New Yeah. Yeah.

0:51:38.560 --> 0:51:42.040
<v Speaker 1>If you like Pebble Beach and you would rather have

0:51:42.840 --> 0:51:48.319
<v Speaker 1>two Carmel base there, you go to get someone like

0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:51.040
<v Speaker 1>kil Hans and Jim Widner to take their time to

0:51:51.080 --> 0:51:54.799
<v Speaker 1>come here. I mean those their schedules are ridiculous. And

0:51:54.880 --> 0:51:57.240
<v Speaker 1>to get them to come here and take us on board,

0:51:57.320 --> 0:51:59.040
<v Speaker 1>it was like buying a lot of ticket and winning

0:51:59.040 --> 0:52:02.919
<v Speaker 1>a lotta that's Liam McDivitt who helped rescue the course

0:52:02.920 --> 0:52:06.959
<v Speaker 1>in He and his partner Larry fully bought the debt

0:52:07.040 --> 0:52:09.319
<v Speaker 1>of one point seven million euros and had to put

0:52:09.360 --> 0:52:12.440
<v Speaker 1>several million back into the place. To play there for

0:52:12.440 --> 0:52:15.440
<v Speaker 1>a hundred fifty five dollars isn't exactly like winning the Lotto,

0:52:15.840 --> 0:52:20.840
<v Speaker 1>but it's close. Even closer. Locals pay roughly six d

0:52:20.960 --> 0:52:25.080
<v Speaker 1>dollars to play for a year. What Gil and Jim

0:52:25.120 --> 0:52:29.040
<v Speaker 1>did you know? They basically had an impact on you know,

0:52:29.360 --> 0:52:33.080
<v Speaker 1>every hole, whether it was teas greens, location of greens,

0:52:33.719 --> 0:52:39.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, uh, slight sort of routing tweaks, condensing holes

0:52:39.040 --> 0:52:44.120
<v Speaker 1>into threes or making them fours, and and and what

0:52:44.120 --> 0:52:45.840
<v Speaker 1>what they've done. And it's a beautif talking about a

0:52:45.840 --> 0:52:50.279
<v Speaker 1>beautiful little beach town there. Um and and cool little

0:52:50.400 --> 0:52:53.120
<v Speaker 1>vibe and aesthetic. When we rock up, there's a food

0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:55.440
<v Speaker 1>truck in the in the parking, in the in the parking,

0:52:55.480 --> 0:52:58.600
<v Speaker 1>we're a lot. There's kids everywhere, people are playing in

0:52:58.680 --> 0:53:03.239
<v Speaker 1>T shirts and short and and uh, it's just this beautiful,

0:53:03.320 --> 0:53:09.440
<v Speaker 1>non pretentious but also pristine looking experience. And um and

0:53:09.719 --> 0:53:13.040
<v Speaker 1>we had played with Liam, one of the owners. He's

0:53:13.040 --> 0:53:16.400
<v Speaker 1>a local. He's he's living and has lived in America.

0:53:16.640 --> 0:53:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Kind of this is coming back. He and Larry Foley,

0:53:19.760 --> 0:53:22.719
<v Speaker 1>whose son I played with the father's son. You know,

0:53:22.920 --> 0:53:27.280
<v Speaker 1>he's a Irish American who you know, loves Ireland as

0:53:27.320 --> 0:53:29.920
<v Speaker 1>as you know, as much as anybody does. And they

0:53:29.960 --> 0:53:32.880
<v Speaker 1>bought this, you know, Larry Foley bought its sight unseen

0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:37.520
<v Speaker 1>on his partner Liam's suggestion, Jill Hanson Jim Wagner went

0:53:37.560 --> 0:53:41.120
<v Speaker 1>over there and just I mean I did never played

0:53:41.120 --> 0:53:45.440
<v Speaker 1>it before, but what I played was an absolute gas

0:53:45.480 --> 0:53:51.839
<v Speaker 1>just so much fun, absolutely beautiful, great, uh little you know,

0:53:52.200 --> 0:53:56.000
<v Speaker 1>combination of holes. We had a rainbow over the gulf.

0:53:56.160 --> 0:53:58.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, you're playing down to little greens like you

0:53:58.120 --> 0:54:00.600
<v Speaker 1>do on the seventh and Pebble Beach, like there's a

0:54:00.640 --> 0:54:05.400
<v Speaker 1>couple versions of that. Not to mention, Liam mc adivot,

0:54:06.000 --> 0:54:08.239
<v Speaker 1>the owner who is out there with us, caddied there

0:54:08.840 --> 0:54:14.120
<v Speaker 1>for a euro around as a kid as a kid. Yeah,

0:54:14.600 --> 0:54:18.480
<v Speaker 1>that's gotta be a stage name. Yeah, I'm changing. I'm

0:54:18.560 --> 0:54:23.759
<v Speaker 1>changing my last see to make dvot and so now what,

0:54:23.960 --> 0:54:28.600
<v Speaker 1>by the way, one of about twenty seven that we've met, Yeah,

0:54:28.600 --> 0:54:32.520
<v Speaker 1>that was the was the same as the Guinness count. Afterwards,

0:54:32.520 --> 0:54:34.680
<v Speaker 1>we go to the food truck and Liam goes, all right,

0:54:34.760 --> 0:54:37.840
<v Speaker 1>we'll take this food truck is insane it's the best

0:54:37.840 --> 0:54:40.759
<v Speaker 1>pizza and tacos you'll ever have. And Liam Rock said,

0:54:40.760 --> 0:54:44.640
<v Speaker 1>he goes, all right, We'll take eight taco short ripped tacos,

0:54:45.000 --> 0:54:49.440
<v Speaker 1>will have eight pizzas, will have to lamb you know,

0:54:49.520 --> 0:54:56.520
<v Speaker 1>we'll have a calamari. We we feasted. We feasted that

0:54:56.640 --> 0:55:00.279
<v Speaker 1>night in out of a food truck at Aaron and

0:55:00.320 --> 0:55:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Port New NonStop all year long to play Pebble Beach.

0:55:05.600 --> 0:55:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Once we won't be going to Pebble Beach. I just

0:55:16.520 --> 0:55:18.560
<v Speaker 1>wanted to give you a little perspective of where I

0:55:18.640 --> 0:55:22.720
<v Speaker 1>come from. That was the group of guys we walked

0:55:22.760 --> 0:55:25.600
<v Speaker 1>up the eighteenth with sun setting behind us. I had

0:55:25.640 --> 0:55:28.160
<v Speaker 1>pointed out to them that they pay the same, if

0:55:28.160 --> 0:55:30.759
<v Speaker 1>not less, to play narn and Port New all year

0:55:30.840 --> 0:55:34.440
<v Speaker 1>long versus what anyone pays to play Pebble Beach once.

0:55:35.520 --> 0:55:38.040
<v Speaker 1>They weren't interested in that deal. And if you're playing

0:55:38.040 --> 0:55:41.480
<v Speaker 1>near and in Port New, you can't blame him. So

0:55:41.719 --> 0:55:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Narni Port New is going to UH. I was thinking, Wow,

0:55:45.760 --> 0:55:47.799
<v Speaker 1>this is amazing what this is going to do for

0:55:47.840 --> 0:55:52.160
<v Speaker 1>the North, like unbelievable. And then we went to Rossa

0:55:52.200 --> 0:55:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Penna and St. Patrick. But between that is where we

0:55:55.200 --> 0:55:57.280
<v Speaker 1>went to Christ Island. So this is what the amazing

0:55:57.320 --> 0:56:00.520
<v Speaker 1>thing is is is between naron Port New and Sapenna.

0:56:00.880 --> 0:56:03.239
<v Speaker 1>This is why Critch Island, which is a nine hole

0:56:04.040 --> 0:56:06.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, made out of the farm, made from the

0:56:06.239 --> 0:56:09.640
<v Speaker 1>shovels of the farmers who lived around in the area

0:56:10.160 --> 0:56:12.400
<v Speaker 1>where you can't even get a big bus over this

0:56:12.400 --> 0:56:15.040
<v Speaker 1>little bridge in order to get to Chritch Island where

0:56:15.120 --> 0:56:18.040
<v Speaker 1>they don't even have any merchandise in the pro shop.

0:56:18.600 --> 0:56:21.120
<v Speaker 1>And we played guy who for twenty years was not

0:56:21.200 --> 0:56:23.400
<v Speaker 1>only the supertendent, he was the GM he was the

0:56:23.440 --> 0:56:26.560
<v Speaker 1>head pro, he was the and Brian and he and

0:56:26.640 --> 0:56:30.080
<v Speaker 1>he hosted this. We rocked up there like on two wheels.

0:56:30.680 --> 0:56:33.120
<v Speaker 1>Uh nar an important who gave us three sets of

0:56:33.160 --> 0:56:36.120
<v Speaker 1>clubs so all five of us could play. Wind is

0:56:36.120 --> 0:56:38.600
<v Speaker 1>blowing the only rain. We pretty much got the whole

0:56:38.640 --> 0:56:40.839
<v Speaker 1>trip for the first hole and then it cleared up

0:56:41.239 --> 0:56:44.600
<v Speaker 1>and then it was like the greatest nine hole, the

0:56:44.680 --> 0:56:48.200
<v Speaker 1>best value and greatest nine hole golf course maybe in

0:56:48.200 --> 0:56:51.040
<v Speaker 1>the world. Is it just a coincidence that like the

0:56:51.080 --> 0:56:53.840
<v Speaker 1>most fun golf holes were made by old Tom Morris

0:56:53.840 --> 0:56:55.919
<v Speaker 1>who as like the first guy ever had no idea

0:56:55.960 --> 0:56:58.719
<v Speaker 1>what he was doing. And then the farmers that just

0:56:58.760 --> 0:57:05.360
<v Speaker 1>like make up holes these the farmers and like basically

0:57:05.400 --> 0:57:08.560
<v Speaker 1>the something about the local priests you said, you know, yeah,

0:57:08.640 --> 0:57:12.279
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, you can't get the land from the church. Yeah,

0:57:12.320 --> 0:57:14.880
<v Speaker 1>they Landford Church. They made the golf course. Took him

0:57:15.000 --> 0:57:20.720
<v Speaker 1>four years to build these nine holes with shovels. And

0:57:22.320 --> 0:57:25.040
<v Speaker 1>sixth hole, well you'll see the six holes of part

0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:30.840
<v Speaker 1>three is like a mini version of sixteen at Cyprus Point.

0:57:31.680 --> 0:57:34.080
<v Speaker 1>This is the most metal golf course I've ever heard of.

0:57:36.600 --> 0:57:39.720
<v Speaker 1>You pay like thirty or thirty bucks to play nine holes,

0:57:39.800 --> 0:57:42.480
<v Speaker 1>or fifty bucks to play a team. We had, um,

0:57:43.120 --> 0:57:45.720
<v Speaker 1>it was we we had the bet with the like

0:57:45.840 --> 0:57:50.920
<v Speaker 1>pound for pound, like the best time of anything and

0:57:51.000 --> 0:57:53.160
<v Speaker 1>everything we did was the nine holes we played at

0:57:53.200 --> 0:57:58.240
<v Speaker 1>Christi Island because low expectations, it was like we all

0:57:58.280 --> 0:58:02.240
<v Speaker 1>got to play. We had such a time. It was amazing.

0:58:03.240 --> 0:58:05.640
<v Speaker 1>It was like we were five kids that like got

0:58:05.720 --> 0:58:09.120
<v Speaker 1>led into Disneyland by ourselves with no one else there,

0:58:09.640 --> 0:58:12.080
<v Speaker 1>and we just ran around like crazy. They don't have

0:58:12.640 --> 0:58:17.560
<v Speaker 1>but they do have Guinness. Yeah for um. For the

0:58:17.600 --> 0:58:19.800
<v Speaker 1>listeners at home whose interest has been majorly picked, we

0:58:19.800 --> 0:58:22.640
<v Speaker 1>should just point out it's spelled c r U I

0:58:22.840 --> 0:58:25.120
<v Speaker 1>T it's like Crewett Island if that's not how they

0:58:25.120 --> 0:58:28.200
<v Speaker 1>say it over there, and then it took a while

0:58:28.280 --> 0:58:31.440
<v Speaker 1>for us to figure out how to say it. Yeah, yeah, No,

0:58:31.560 --> 0:58:36.439
<v Speaker 1>it's definitely a cult classic. Um. Laurence Donnegan, the long

0:58:36.480 --> 0:58:39.480
<v Speaker 1>time golf read or he's he tweeted about it maybe

0:58:39.600 --> 0:58:41.280
<v Speaker 1>a year ago, a year and a half ago that

0:58:41.400 --> 0:58:43.120
<v Speaker 1>is like his favorite course in the world or something

0:58:43.280 --> 0:58:46.120
<v Speaker 1>equally hyperbolic. And that was the first time I've ever

0:58:46.160 --> 0:58:48.440
<v Speaker 1>heard about it, and I immediately googled it and I've

0:58:48.480 --> 0:58:52.160
<v Speaker 1>seen the photos. It does look just absolutely spectacular and

0:58:52.200 --> 0:58:56.080
<v Speaker 1>clearly it's got a special ambiance. So that's awesome. So

0:58:56.160 --> 0:59:02.320
<v Speaker 1>now Matt, who has a long history of jousting with

0:59:02.520 --> 0:59:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Tom Doak, both as a human and as a designer,

0:59:05.960 --> 0:59:11.240
<v Speaker 1>and um, I've heard him swear various oaths involving Tom

0:59:11.320 --> 0:59:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Doak's name. Um, from tar Eady to Cape Kidnappers to

0:59:17.680 --> 0:59:21.440
<v Speaker 1>uh stream songs. You go down the list, but you

0:59:21.480 --> 0:59:26.560
<v Speaker 1>get to St. Patrick's and your belief is what Matt

0:59:27.000 --> 0:59:30.320
<v Speaker 1>finish that sentence, Well, I mean I should probably address

0:59:30.400 --> 0:59:33.320
<v Speaker 1>some of the Tom dot that you just laid out.

0:59:37.800 --> 0:59:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, I I have a lot of

0:59:39.960 --> 0:59:42.720
<v Speaker 1>respect for Tom Doke the designer, I don't I don't

0:59:42.760 --> 0:59:46.320
<v Speaker 1>think his greens are a great match for modern day

0:59:46.360 --> 0:59:51.520
<v Speaker 1>green speeds. It's not there. They're too much undulation to

0:59:51.680 --> 0:59:55.560
<v Speaker 1>handle green speeds of eleven and twelve, which is generally

0:59:55.560 --> 1:00:00.360
<v Speaker 1>what high end resorts do two to golf versus in

1:00:00.360 --> 1:00:04.160
<v Speaker 1>America in an effort to sort of justify large green

1:00:04.240 --> 1:00:07.360
<v Speaker 1>fees or to sort of pump the chest on like

1:00:07.480 --> 1:00:12.480
<v Speaker 1>we've got fast greens. And and Doke doesn't relent on,

1:00:12.680 --> 1:00:16.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, and less strongly encouraged by Mike Kaiser. Basically,

1:00:16.520 --> 1:00:19.400
<v Speaker 1>his his greens are not only too undulating for modern

1:00:19.480 --> 1:00:23.200
<v Speaker 1>day greens fees, but with with good shots on approach shots,

1:00:23.200 --> 1:00:25.800
<v Speaker 1>they just send balls in a lot of various directions,

1:00:25.920 --> 1:00:31.520
<v Speaker 1>unnecessarily and unfairly in most cases. And you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm an amateur, and so you know, I I

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<v Speaker 1>have poked at Tom doke Um for that because I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's I think that he costs himself in what

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<v Speaker 1>I think is is Um being revered is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest of of of his generation. There are some

1:00:52.360 --> 1:00:54.680
<v Speaker 1>people who say he is the greatest. I would say

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<v Speaker 1>that because of because of three to four or five

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes screens per course, it's not. It's not it

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<v Speaker 1>gets in the way of the good time and the

1:01:05.520 --> 1:01:08.439
<v Speaker 1>good is done and the good routings and the other

1:01:08.520 --> 1:01:12.200
<v Speaker 1>genius stuff he's done. That being said, when we rocked

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<v Speaker 1>up to Rossa Penna and St Patrick's and that golf

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<v Speaker 1>course and what he's done is um it's the in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, you know, having just walked it and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw the scale, like this has to be his best.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, he got he would. It's like he had

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<v Speaker 1>the land of both Bandon and Pacific to build the

1:01:41.160 --> 1:01:44.600
<v Speaker 1>ultimate band and Dunes golf course. The scale and the

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<v Speaker 1>dunes and the and the and the position of the

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<v Speaker 1>holes along the water and and the routing and the drama,

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<v Speaker 1>the build up to the end. It's it's and they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to run the green speeds at nine because that's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of what they do in Ireland because the wind

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<v Speaker 1>always blows and you have to still have it be playable.

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<v Speaker 1>So great to be at nine in Ireland for this

1:02:12.200 --> 1:02:14.320
<v Speaker 1>tom Dok golf course, and to have the land he

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<v Speaker 1>had and where he's at in his career to do

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<v Speaker 1>what he's you know, to do what he did. To me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the it's the best case scenario. Expectations were pretty high,

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<v Speaker 1>to be fair with you know, Sandons Sands say, you

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<v Speaker 1>know in Tom's Tom's record with with all of the above.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, John and I have been friends and our

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<v Speaker 1>fans and friends of Tom's for a long time. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was just a good foot And while on the

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<v Speaker 1>subject of Tom Doak, Dream Golf, which consists of Bandon, Duons,

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<v Speaker 1>starting with the US Junior Amateur and at sand Valley,

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<v Speaker 1>Dope is restoring the Lego Golf Club, which many consider

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<v Speaker 1>one of the greatest courses ever built and by the

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<v Speaker 1>Com forward slash giveaway now for more in St Patrick's

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<v Speaker 1>and the Casey family back to the round table. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think about like the New York Skyland.

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<v Speaker 1>You feel like it's it's fixed, um, and yet they're

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<v Speaker 1>always someone's always build the new skyscraper. And how cool

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<v Speaker 1>is it that you know, they're still finding new links

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<v Speaker 1>courses in Ireland and two of them, Uh, it's it's exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>And Rossa Penna already has too too good golf course

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<v Speaker 1>and they have a beautiful hotel there. And the Casey

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<v Speaker 1>family are amazing people. Um, the sons uh, Frank and

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<v Speaker 1>John basically like the Kaiser boys. So Frank Sr. Casey

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<v Speaker 1>has been running this hotel and these golf courses, and

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<v Speaker 1>his two sons are like Michael and Chris Kaiser like

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're they're super thoughtful, intellectual, humble, uh gracious, classy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, guys in their thirties who have been a

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<v Speaker 1>part of this whole culture for you know, for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, watching their dad do what he does. And

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<v Speaker 1>now they're you know, their dad is still very much involved,

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<v Speaker 1>but he they're they're really sort of breaking up the hospitality,

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<v Speaker 1>the hotel and the golf and it's a it's I

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<v Speaker 1>will tell you that when you know, I thought naron

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<v Speaker 1>I Port knew was going to be a nice draw

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<v Speaker 1>to the north and you see St Patrick's rossa Penna

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<v Speaker 1>and knowing what we know again about the value and

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<v Speaker 1>this this, this is going to be the golf course

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<v Speaker 1>that with the dok enthusiasts and the gil hands enthusiasts

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<v Speaker 1>and value enthusiasts and people who have already checked the

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<v Speaker 1>boxes in the south and the Southwest, who have played

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<v Speaker 1>all those golf courses, there is going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>seismic shift to the north and the Northwest for the

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<v Speaker 1>next ten years, for the foreseeable future because oft and

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<v Speaker 1>let's not forget the Open at Port Rush kind of

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<v Speaker 1>put that course and a whole other category all the

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<v Speaker 1>there's been all this, there's been a movement happening in

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<v Speaker 1>our glass has gone from five international golfers to five thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, over the last you know, five years. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean there's already been this kind of discovery of the valley.

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<v Speaker 1>Lifting played really well in the Irish Open. Royal County

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<v Speaker 1>Down was the first one where where Rory hosted. Rory

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<v Speaker 1>getting in the Irish Open. It playing well you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know happened at the Hinge too with romb bet

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<v Speaker 1>that that kind of is all that's all happening. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well so so this this becomes the ultimate question your

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<v Speaker 1>your golfer traveling from the US or somewhere else, far

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<v Speaker 1>far far away, and you only have one week, say

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<v Speaker 1>you can't through the entire Irish island, So do you

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<v Speaker 1>go to the north or do you go to the south.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that answer? Now? The Southwest? You know, to deprive

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<v Speaker 1>yourself of Lahinch, Trille, Waterville, Vally Bunyan, old Head, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>dune bag Uh, you know, Dukes. I mean that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>that is, that's as good as it gets. That is

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<v Speaker 1>the supreme beings of Irish golf. But next up is now,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was all I I love the North anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Port Rouge, Port Stewart, are Glass, Royal County down there

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<v Speaker 1>was there's plenty up there, Castle Rock. But now you

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<v Speaker 1>have more options in the north and the Northwest is

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<v Speaker 1>now becoming Now the lines are blurred. Now there's a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of more of a shift and now you can

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<v Speaker 1>actually make a truly north northwest trip. And like we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even play Royal County down. We didn't play Port Stewart,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't do Port Rush, which you know, which is

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<v Speaker 1>is epic. But my god, that's in the conversation that

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<v Speaker 1>that holds up And if you're gonna go value, that's

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<v Speaker 1>where you go. And if you want to get it

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<v Speaker 1>in before it gets super popular, yeah, yeah, get it

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<v Speaker 1>in now before it becomes I mean, I liked what

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<v Speaker 1>you guys said on top of this podcast is probably

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<v Speaker 1>an hour and a half ago now that it felt

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<v Speaker 1>like Ireland two or three decades ago, your experience you

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<v Speaker 1>just had and um and I think I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's what the Northwest is going to be for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. And just a we don't know the geography

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<v Speaker 1>that well. I mean, most folks would fly into Dublin

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<v Speaker 1>and then if you just start going north you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get to Royal County down before anything else. You go

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<v Speaker 1>up these coasts and then hit Port Rush and just

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<v Speaker 1>do a loop and you go west and you could

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<v Speaker 1>you could do it one great circle just in the

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<v Speaker 1>northern half of the island and could you could cut

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<v Speaker 1>straight northwest get to Donegal and then donegalz in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle is right minutes from man in Port New St

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick's is an hour and a half from Donegal and

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<v Speaker 1>then do it that way too. Yeah, and the Belfast too,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, you you can go. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there are flights in both and there's actually a flight

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<v Speaker 1>over to an airport in the northwest out of Dublin

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<v Speaker 1>that you can connect that gets you into the heart

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<v Speaker 1>of the Northwest. There is there, and it's only one

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<v Speaker 1>flight a day. But and I suspect there will be

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<v Speaker 1>more of those flights, you know. I would bet you

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<v Speaker 1>know all my four oh and k that three years

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<v Speaker 1>from now, assuming you know, everything clears up with COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>that there will be a lot more flights going in

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<v Speaker 1>and out of the airport in the Northwest. They're they're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna be big planes, but I think there'll be

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<v Speaker 1>more flights. Before we get to final thoughts and favorite moments,

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<v Speaker 1>make park. Do anyone have a favorite moment? What do

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<v Speaker 1>you got cold other than winning? I mean we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even I feel like we need to spin off podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>for everything. Like, you know, the goats at le Hine

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<v Speaker 1>was hilarious. Matt didn't believe they were there. Did we

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<v Speaker 1>find them? Maybe you'll have to see market Nolan and

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<v Speaker 1>his mom at let Hite grabbing beer as he lives. Literally,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you go Klondike and uh and what is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Del Klondike and del Klondike On the fourth Marcus lives

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<v Speaker 1>right behind the green. He runs into the house grabs

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<v Speaker 1>beers for us. You know, we get a refresh in

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<v Speaker 1>between two template holes. That's pretty ridiculous. But um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole part of the Father's Son is is the

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<v Speaker 1>the Irish mass priest comes in. You have the Irish

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<v Speaker 1>mass that there's the whole Irish mass hole out at

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<v Speaker 1>Waterville and the twelfth whole part through where there's a

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<v Speaker 1>huge pit. Hundreds of years ago. You know, having mass

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<v Speaker 1>was punishable by death at the time. They would go

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<v Speaker 1>out there have mass in the pits so nobody could

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<v Speaker 1>see him. I mean Waterville is built out on the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this peninsula is the golf course. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all that's on the peninsula. But anyway, we had

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<v Speaker 1>it out at Marty's House UM this year and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a sort of a uh memorial service for a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of the guys that have been a part of

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<v Speaker 1>the tournament UM in the past and again rolling into

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<v Speaker 1>the father's son without knowing a whole lot about it,

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<v Speaker 1>to experience Irish mass there and to to experience the

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<v Speaker 1>emotions that were a part of that and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate the um the lives of some of the guys

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<v Speaker 1>that have lived that tournament over the years. It was heavy,

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<v Speaker 1>It was heavy, and it was it was eye opening

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<v Speaker 1>UM and uh really enjoyable as well. M but you

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<v Speaker 1>out fair moment. Castle Rock played as a crew part

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<v Speaker 1>of the thing and I went home. I stuck one close,

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<v Speaker 1>stuck one close, two for one. That's right. That eight

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<v Speaker 1>favorite moment. First hole on one cot you covered Matt's bird,

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<v Speaker 1>I think as well out a yeah, if I'm not taken,

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<v Speaker 1>I did that drivable far forward. Appreciate that. I appreciated

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<v Speaker 1>that I was out of the hole, Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>How about you, Maddie man. I you know, for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's I mean, I I eagled my last hole, the

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<v Speaker 1>eighteenth hold of the father's son of Waterville down wind

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<v Speaker 1>some some I had nine iron into the green and

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<v Speaker 1>uh and made the putt, which was my golf highlight

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<v Speaker 1>by far. And but it's it's all about I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>our glass is kind of the goat Hill Park of Ireland,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, of of Northern Ireland, and it's it's um

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<v Speaker 1>the people there, you know, become become friendly with the

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<v Speaker 1>several years ago they made me an honorary member, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh they presented it to me at the p J

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<v Speaker 1>Merchandise Show. I you I didn't know what, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, I don't even know what that. That's amazing

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<v Speaker 1>honor like the you know, the oldest clubhouse in the

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<v Speaker 1>world fourteen oh six or something and uh yeah, our

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<v Speaker 1>Glass and uh so this was my first time back there.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Vaughan, the pro um Fit see is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the eleven time club champion, was our host and uh

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<v Speaker 1>we had we went lobstering. I met up with the

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<v Speaker 1>the three brothers who owned the Dire Wolves, or were

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<v Speaker 1>used as the Dire Wolves. Uh. And um got you know,

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<v Speaker 1>become friendly with them. We met up with them, We

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<v Speaker 1>had drinks in the pub with them, We played the

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<v Speaker 1>golf course the next morning, and uh and we we

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<v Speaker 1>sang songs until two in the morning. The whole Art

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<v Speaker 1>Glass thing, to me is is my super spiritual I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's some there's magic in the land and the

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<v Speaker 1>and there's certainly magic in the in the people and

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<v Speaker 1>the community there, and uh, it's cool. It's a really

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<v Speaker 1>cool thing. And so being able to go back there

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<v Speaker 1>that was, you know, of all the things, I got

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<v Speaker 1>ten favorite things, twenty favorite things, thirty favorite things, and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty favorite people that we met. But heart Glass is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the one for me, My heart love. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a fun journey. I mean, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>it made my fomo worst or better, but it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>great to hear the stories and it's it's fun to

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<v Speaker 1>think about. There's bitterness in your tone from the beginning. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm supportive. I'm supportive, but anyway, think thanks for filling

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<v Speaker 1>us all in. I mean, yeah, I think the decision

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<v Speaker 1>between between the Ireland and Scotland is much harder than

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<v Speaker 1>it's ever been, especially when you're adding these two new

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<v Speaker 1>courses and and Port Russias Star Turn and all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's if it's that, I mean, it's definitely a

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<v Speaker 1>win win, but it's it's certainly something about Ireland. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the people and the culture is so inviting and anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>this is great stuff that was well said Alan, like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's never been more of a closer fight between Scotland

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<v Speaker 1>and Ireland. And at the end of the day, if

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<v Speaker 1>you really you know, on the plenty of the golf

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<v Speaker 1>stacks up, the golf can go, you know, one for one,

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<v Speaker 1>you can go back and forth. But at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, what happens off course in Ireland and

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<v Speaker 1>Northern Ireland is unlike anything else really in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>The people and the warmth and the only thing they

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<v Speaker 1>take seriously over there is making sure that you have

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<v Speaker 1>a good time. You're very good at it. I'm all done,

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<v Speaker 1>open Si