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Speaker 1: the fire nobody, he's get the time. Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: fire pit with Matt Janella. We opened this episode with

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Speaker 1: to almost all of the greats and several hidden gems

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Speaker 1: Jeff Cunningham have created so much more than apparel you

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Speaker 1: The goal was to come back with two journeys. The

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Speaker 1: shows we've done. I've never built a schedule so late.

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Speaker 1: I mean we had long drive times. I mean there

428
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: were times we had four hours to drive, but there

429
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: was a lot of time to go adventure and you

430
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Speaker 1: know that was that was just through all the trips

431
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: that we've taken to Ireland and Scotland and England, like

432
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: it was necessary to do that in Ireland to to

433
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Speaker 1: pull this off. That reminds me of some of the

434
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: trips that Matt and I have taken with various friends

435
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: and and wingmen, and that they're the itineraries are so ambitious,

436
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: thirty six day plus drives and we were like, pull over,

437
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 1: take a picture of like a sign that would point

438
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: to a castle, Like all right, there's a sight seet

439
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,959
Speaker 1: for the trip. Like all we did was eat, sleep,

440
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: play golf and drive. It was we didn't do anything else.

441
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: And it's fun. I mean that's kind of the point.

442
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: But you do feel like, man, I haven't quite seen

443
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: as much of this country as I should, and so

444
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: it's there's that tension. I mean, if everyone everyone has

445
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: a well not everyone, but most people have a finite

446
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: amount of time between family and work and everything else,

447
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 1: and so you're you're trying to cram as much as

448
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 1: you can, but I agree like it. You do want

449
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: a sense of place and you do want to put

450
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: your feet up and have some fun when when you can.

451
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: So that's awesome that you guys made space for that,

452
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,239
Speaker 1: because it's not it's not easy to do it that

453
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: that schedule and get so full so fast, especially when

454
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: you're especially when you're also filming a TV content. Oh yeah, exactly.

455
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: So when Alex when you said the crack is back,

456
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: like just for those who don't know the words, the

457
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: Irish word, a's c R A I C and it's

458
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: it's kind of like the trash talking, the fun, the nightlife,

459
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: the the in spanciality, the dwet and day like like,

460
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: how how would you guys, how would you define crack

461
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 1: for for those listening, Um, it's it's it's all that,

462
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: it's it's the it's everything that's sort of Ireland is

463
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: very prideful about, which is music and uh, you know, um,

464
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: it's all around you know, singing together. There are songs

465
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: they all you know, there are traditional Irish songs there

466
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: they cover you know, traditional American piano sort of pub

467
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: songs and uh, it's a big part of all of it.

468
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: It's it's um, it's the Guinness, it's the pubs, it's

469
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,959
Speaker 1: the music. It's the local musicians, you know, sort of

470
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: forming a spontaneous band, people chiming in like it's a

471
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: it's the party, that's what you know, it's it's a

472
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: good crack. If the next day that was a good crack, Yeah,

473
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: well what was that? That was a good party. That

474
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: was good. That was good, good energy, good good vibe.

475
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: That's more from a group of locals, jamming and doulon.

476
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: We pick it back up with Colt Nedler to go

477
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: back to surprises real quick, Matt, what was something that

478
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 1: you know, I forgot what the question was, but like

479
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: something that you know surprised you on that trip, on

480
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: or off the golf course. Oh man, well, you know,

481
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: just going back to the whole schedule thing. I think too,

482
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: it's funny that Alex said, you know, like, oh, this

483
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: is the lightest itinerary I've ever booked, because it definitely

484
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: didn't feel that like, I don't know what you're talking about.

485
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: Where are we on the same trip. Well, the granted

486
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: the first five days when we were in Waterville, you're

487
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: on your own schedule, Waterville was chilling, but you were.

488
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: You were in the shedine till two am every day,

489
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: so that was that was by your own doing that

490
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: you were busy and right down you go, you go,

491
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: you go to Ireland to go to bed at ten o'clock, like, oh,

492
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,959
Speaker 1: I gotta go to bed. You know, you don't go

493
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: to bed, you go to Like I did say after

494
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: the third night, I go, I have to not be

495
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: on the last bus home like I was on the

496
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: last bus for the first three nights. I was like,

497
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: this is not a good you know. But that's why

498
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: you keep You get invited back every year, Matt. That's

499
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: why you're just punching your ticket for the next trip.

500
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: You know, you're putting in the work for all of us.

501
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. And again, so those who don't know

502
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: all the vernaculars, the shebne is kind of like I mean,

503
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: it used to be like a secret bar, like sort

504
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: of like speak easy, yeah, yeah, and now it's kind

505
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: of just a more general term, right for a place

506
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: to go and have some fun. But back in the day, yeah, yeah, yeah.

507
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: If someone has a like a basement barn that here

508
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: in the States that would be there should be yeah,

509
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: it's like a man. Well that's a good that's a

510
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: really good segue to be Kaplaner's question a favorite town

511
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: to sleep in combo of hotel, restaurant and of course

512
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: the pubs. Colt, what did you like the most? Can I?

513
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: Can I bring it back for one second? Um? I

514
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: felt this was this was very impactful. To be honest,

515
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: the whole Father's Son I did not. I did not

516
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: realize what we were kind of getting into. I mean,

517
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: this was like, you know, maybe date. This was day two,

518
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: day like one and a half for me, and we're like, okay,

519
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,719
Speaker 1: we're going down to Waterville for the father's Son. I'm like,

520
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what that is. Let's roll, you know, like, okay,

521
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: we land, you know, I slowly kind of I'm like, oh,

522
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: Matt playing a tournament rad okay, cool? Uh. You know

523
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: there's like fifty teams, you know, two man teams, a

524
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: hundred people. Marty Carr. I'm sorry, I'm hearing about Marty Carr,

525
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: this character who you haven't met yet and we're talked

526
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: about and um, you know, the mettal I'll leave kind

527
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: of describing that whole experience to you, but just to

528
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: just to see. You know, the relationships that that in

529
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: friendships that Matt had has over there and sort of

530
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: has cultivated over years of travel, was incredible. It's like,

531
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Speaker 1: you have this Irish family over there that you see

532
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: every single year. Friends. I mean, whether it's their kids

533
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: and you've see him grow up, or you know, you're

534
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: some of your best friends over there, or you know

535
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: people that you've known and gotten to play with over

536
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: the years. Um, I was like, wow, I did not

537
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: know this existed over here. You know, it was it

538
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: was really cool experience, not only to just be around

539
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: and then to be able to play in it was

540
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: you know, that was wild. Um, to be able to

541
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Speaker 1: play in it. So it's cold is cult shows up

542
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: he does to the father's son. I'm not playing a

543
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: practice round with Steve John, who is tournament director of

544
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: A T and T and the pure first team and

545
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: sort of you know beach. Yeah, the mayor of Pebble Beach,

546
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: I mean Monterey Peninsula runs the Monterey Peninsula Foundation essentially,

547
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: so well, you're forgetting the most important part of his resume.

548
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: Steve John is my partner every year abandoned for for

549
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: the Uncle Tony Invitational, which is the tournament that the

550
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: Matt hosts in honor of the his colorful old Italian

551
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: uncle got him into golf, and it's one of the

552
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: highlights of the golf calendar for all of us and

553
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: s J. As he's widely known in the golf world.

554
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: We've had like three chances to win, like we were

555
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: always right there and he's he's a great stick. He's

556
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: probably a legit one or two and one of the

557
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: all time characters. Let spectacular head of hair. It's not

558
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: just that Colt got to play with some rando. I mean,

559
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: this is one of the all time characters. So so

560
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: so I'm playing a practice film with Steve John and

561
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: he gets a phone call his son Kyle was coming in.

562
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: Who by the way, Kyle and s J have won

563
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: the Father's Son twice. They're contended. Kyle's a stick is

564
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: a stick and uh, Kyle. He puts Kyle on like

565
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: speaker phone on the sixteenth T. We're playing the back

566
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Speaker 1: nine only and we're on the sixteenth T and Kyle

567
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: basically says, Dad, I'm sorry. You know his fight had

568
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: also got canceled day before. Father He's out. Matt then

569
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: hits the Ireland journey text thread Colt, you're playing with

570
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: Steve John tomorrow one fifteen working on clubs game on

571
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: let's go. Gets clubs from the caddy that I use

572
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: from a Dare Manner who's like one of the greatest

573
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: people roaming the planets, Mark serteen. He's a great guy

574
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: us him, used him as a dair, brought him over

575
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,959
Speaker 1: with the father son in the last few years. He

576
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: has a set of clubs. He goes, culte, you can

577
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: use my clubs. Coult uses Mark Startini's clubs. Shows up

578
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 1: the first tea with s J and and the first

579
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: hole of Waterville and they both proceed to pump it

580
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: into the hazard like both go right out out ball.

581
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: I mean they're there and it's taking best ball of

582
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: the twosome from day one three day tournaments. Second day

583
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: is alternate shot, third days back to best ball the twosome.

584
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: These guys are out. I mean, I didn't I think

585
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: it was maybe at the turn on the first day,

586
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 1: asked Matt. I'm like, he said something like what I'm

587
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: playing the next two days as well. Bear in mind

588
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: I on before this trip, I was like, hey, if

589
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: we can all play nine holes together at some point

590
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 1: that would be sick. I love to play nine in Ireland,

591
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: that would be awesome. You know, right off the bat

592
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: they jump in play three days in Waterville for the

593
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: father's son. I'm like, sir, yes, sir at further a

594
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: couple of two of them over there in the fairway,

595
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 1: like I'm passing them and they're like thickest thieves they're

596
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 1: over there. I'm hearing, hey cold great, yeah yeah right,

597
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah, you know, this is like when

598
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: your girl cheats on you with like you know, through universe.

599
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: Like I don't really need to hear all this matter,

600
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 1: Like it's a sensitive subject, like is my partner Coult

601
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: swoops in, steals them, carries him the victory. Like it

602
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: puts me in an awkward position here, like you can

603
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 1: lay off a little bit. Nobody nobody's thinking about anything.

604
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: You know, they're having fun, they're playing good. You know.

605
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: You know, it's all Stableford scoring over there. So it's

606
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: always like it's pars two points, Bogey's one point and

607
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: anything double zero and birdies are three eagles or four, etcetera,

608
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: and so it's all you know, you gotta get to

609
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: thirty six. That's par Basically, that's two points a whole

610
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: and if you can get like anywhere, you know, thirty

611
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: eight denying all good scores. Well. Fin day three we

612
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: finished third. My partner and I finished fourth actually in

613
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: the adopted category. A couple of our other friends. One.

614
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: There were some beautiful speeches going on, and Cold is

615
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: shooting the awards ceremony. Oh. Yeah, by the way, he's playing,

616
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: and I'm also telling you about like, hey, when you're

617
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: done or out there, got some shots. So whenever he's

618
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: got playing and Ley and he's shooting, he's shooting like

619
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: the whole time everything. So and he's shooting the trophy

620
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: ceremony and they go, oh first play, Oh well, you know,

621
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 1: unfortunately Kyle John couldn't make it. Steve John had and

622
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: and Colt looks over me. He's like, did we just win?

623
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: Low Gross? And like and I was, and they go

624
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: and Steve John and Cold Neeler Low Gross, are you

625
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 1: kidding me? Oh my god? That was so much fun.

626
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: That was enjoys funny gross. Oh my god. With Barow

627
00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: clubs clubs the three days, okay, they it's best ball

628
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 1: to twosome and then Colt, you've got zero shots? Yeah,

629
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: And and Steve got three shots, you got two. He's

630
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: a three handicapped him to get into three days total

631
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: best ballot twosome, alternate shot and best ball of twosome.

632
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 1: And they both are in the hazard off the first

633
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: tea on the first hole and they finished seven over.

634
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: Doesn't put everybody off. The set is all the strategy.

635
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: So Colt and s J are defending gross champions. Kyle

636
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: John might be my partner next year and Alan is

637
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: need of a new partner. At the Uncle Tony invitation.

638
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: As for Colton, Alan asked him for a wrap up

639
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: before we headed north. We're talking favorites in Southwest sure,

640
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: I mean, and we're talking just golf or experience, because

641
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: the La Hinch experience where the whole crew plays its sunset.

642
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: La Hinch is the town. You know, we're coming up

643
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 1: eighteen as a seven ball, you know, trying to get

644
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: in at last light. I mean, it's just you know,

645
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: it's old Tom, old Tom mackenzie, right, It's just I mean,

646
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: how can you beat that? I don't think you can.

647
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: I mean, Lynch m my favorite golf course in all

648
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,439
Speaker 1: while Ireland, the whole island. But what about you, Matt.

649
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: You you've you've seen him done them. If you had

650
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: to pick one favorite in the Southwest, what's it going

651
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: to be? Well, you know, the story we do on

652
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: truly is they've they've they've really made a lot of

653
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: changes and improvements to the front nine, which was always

654
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: said to be the weaker nine and sort of you know,

655
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: maybe have pulled Trulli down in the in the rankings

656
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: so speak. But I think so it's gotten better. And

657
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: then Bally Bunny. In the first time I played Bally

658
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 1: Bunny and it was raining, you know, sideways blowing forty

659
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: always has could have clouded my you know, sort of

660
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: impression of the golf because that's all I It's all

661
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 1: I really. I mean I played it again raining also,

662
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: like I just I finally thought in this perfect in

663
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: a situation, it was an epic day and uh, it

664
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: was pristine, it was an immaculate condition. And um and

665
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: they've they've actually improved their eighteen told which is one

666
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: that I never liked. It was kind of this raw, odd,

667
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: blind approach shot and uh, and and all that being said,

668
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: I I just for me, you know, Waterville and La

669
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 1: Hinch just it's really impossible to pick between them. I

670
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: love them both. I I for different reasons. I love

671
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: both the towns, I love both the golf courses, I

672
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: love both of vibe, I love all the experience. I've

673
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: got great memories and moments of both. It's just I

674
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: can't do it. It's like pebble and cypress for me.

675
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: All Right, that's well said from the from the visitor standpoint,

676
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: I think you know the Hinch. You're like right down

677
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: the street from the Cliffs of More, not too far

678
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: from this cool little music artist town duel In. Like

679
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: that area has a lot happening if you're traveling with

680
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: family or you know, you just want to get in

681
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 1: a lot in an area. Yeah, that's a great point.

682
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: I mean, well, and it's it's so close to Shannon,

683
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: Like that's the hinches big problem. That's been a big

684
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: thing for like the Hinch especially, Like everybody who flies

685
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: in out of Shannon goes right to Hinch. It so

686
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: you could be on the tea in like forty five

687
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: minutes from the time you land. That's a problem. Well

688
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: it's Shannon Airport still closed, so there's no flights. Yeah. Um,

689
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: but they take great care of us. And then we

690
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: know a local there, Antoino Looney I've you know, through

691
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: John Ashworth. I've got to know this guy who's just

692
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: a you know, it's in a country full of characters.

693
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: This is in the top ten Antoino Looney who offered

694
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: to take us out in his boat to be at

695
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: the base of the Cliffs of More. You know, on

696
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 1: the morning we're supposed to get away, and we got

697
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: sunset and again whether we're supposed to be horrible, it wasn't.

698
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: We got to go right and we we we actually

699
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: he drove the boat into the cliffs more so over

700
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: over over our shoulder and and and there you know,

701
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: we got you're in student and over this time year.

702
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: Then you're over can Island. Where are the people? Where

703
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: do the people come to see the cliffs? Wre right?

704
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: See where the castle is there O'Brien's cast. Yeah, it's

705
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: just like get in the tower, you know. Yeah. How

706
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: long does that go? Back? Back back? Joe Joe, Brian Stronghold,

707
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: who are going way back? I think give your own

708
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: in creation. Yeah you know, yeah, but the way back

709
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,959
Speaker 1: yeah wait wait, wait, wait, way back way a couple

710
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: of ways. The Cliffs of More are less than an

711
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: hour from Shannon Airport, maybe ten minutes from the Hinge.

712
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: Tickets range in price from free for kids twelve and under,

713
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: twelve dollars for adults, and up to twenty two dollars

714
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: for an entire family. O'Brien's tower goes way way back

715
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: to and sits set above sea level. I mean, mind boy,

716
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: if you want to talk about surprise experiences. For me,

717
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: obviously chritsch Island is is something that we can do

718
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: a whole podcast on and probably will at some point.

719
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: But um, for me that the boat ride with ANTOINEO

720
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: Looney at sunrise at La Hinch into the cliffs some

721
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: more is something. You know, I've done the boat right

722
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: along the north of Kauai on the Nepolyi coastline, which

723
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 1: is spectacular and breathtaking. This is times ten of that,

724
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: all right. So so now you make the hard choice

725
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: to skip Role County down and you go to the northwest,

726
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: which is really the least explored part of of Ireland

727
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: from a golf standpoint. That was the point. That was

728
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: the point. That's what I was gonna say, What, why

729
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: why do that? And what what was the vision there? Well,

730
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: it's got two new it's got you know basically there

731
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: and I portnew Gil Hans just you know, basically did

732
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: a did a total redo and Tom Doke built a

733
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: course at rossa Penna called St Patrick's on what originally

734
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 1: Jack Nicholas had started as to eighteens and the project

735
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 1: sort of ran a foul. The Casey family was able

736
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: to buy the land. Uh, they reached out to Doke

737
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 1: who came over and routed eighteen holes on what would

738
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: have been you know, thirty six. So um, the kind

739
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: of the pull to that north and the Northwest was

740
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: what's new there and what's going to be the impact

741
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: of these two new you know, I'm sort of a

742
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: modern minimalist American, you know, you know, architectural you know,

743
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: rock stars rolling into Ireland and doing what they do

744
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: on this land. And what's that going to do is

745
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: sort of as seismic shift, as as tea times get

746
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: booked out in the Southwest and prices are where they

747
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: are and value is what it is in the north

748
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 1: and here comes Gilhanson, Tom Doak. What is what's going

749
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: to kind of be this impact of the poll of

750
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: interest plus value to the north and the Northwest. And

751
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: that was part of what we were out to discover.

752
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: We heard from end to Kenny on corn earlier. Now

753
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: meet Jerry McGuire of County Mayo, my playing partner and

754
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: guide around Carnes. Wild Atlantic Dunes. Don't cut dunes like

755
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: this anywhere, not so many of them. You've got them

756
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: here and there in the odd place. But here it's

757
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 1: just Saltimore incredible. When you drive from Ballina or anywhere

758
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: within the Na Bell Mullet, the ground of the flat land,

759
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: it's bog and then you come out here and you

760
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: just think you hit the moon. You stand open the

761
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: first tee box and you come out here in the

762
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 1: middle of what you'd call really craters, and they're cold,

763
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: built in crackers, And until you do it, you just

764
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: you have to do it. It's destination golf. When you

765
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: get here, you'll just be blown away by it. Just

766
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: to clarify, carn added some holes by Jim a Eddie

767
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,959
Speaker 1: Hackett to the original eighteen. Now you have the most

768
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: dramatic nine by Hackett, plus the new nine, which is

769
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 1: what's called the Wild Atlantic Dunes. The remaining nine holes

770
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 1: are the Hackett nine, which are flat and more playable

771
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 1: for the locals. Now back to the conversation for more

772
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: on the trip and planning out this trip. It's places

773
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: like Carn and Sligo and bally liff In that are

774
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: going to benefit from all of this this poll and

775
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: the interest here. And we stumbled into Carn, which I mean,

776
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: you want to talk about raw it's it's it would

777
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: be like Shaquille O'Neil when he was at l s U,

778
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: like just big Gangley and and like you know, has

779
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: a lot of talent, but you know, like just it's

780
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: just it's like it's just you know, just not ready yet.

781
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 1: You know, like it's just not ready yet. It's it's

782
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: it's it's it's close, and you know, it's got the

783
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 1: bones and the character. And then now they've got twenty

784
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: seven holes and the locals and the people who run

785
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: it are basically doing it for free, and they've had

786
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: some real financial struggles that they've you know, they've kind

787
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: of gotten through. I got to play with Enda Kenny,

788
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: the former Prime Minister of Ireland at the Father's son.

789
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 1: He's a local, he's a Mayo guy, the County Mayo

790
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: which is where KRN is, and he was basically all

791
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: in on you gotta go see it. Anyway we went.

792
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: It was amazing. You know, it's amazing, but it's it

793
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: needs the help of the Narro and important new and

794
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: and Rossa Pennant. It needs this pull, it needs more

795
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: outside play, it needs finances and then it has a

796
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 1: chance of being something really special. But right now it's

797
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: very very tough, long rough, very narrow fairways. It's massive dunes.

798
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 1: It's it's extreme. It's very biggest dunes in the area.

799
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: You're addressed in full cameo headed tone. Go dune hunting,

800
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: they say, they say that people tea off from Carn

801
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: and sometimes may never be seen again. The wild Atlantic Dunes.

802
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: That that's what it is. These dunes are seriously what

803
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: fifty feet tall period. It's not a no I know,

804
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: that's that's part of it. It's always had this mystique

805
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: because it is so raw. And John Getty, my former psycholague,

806
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: you know, he wrote a book Ancestral Links in the

807
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: Car and plays a big role in that. And it's

808
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: one of the great regrets of my life is if

809
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: after every year after the Open, John will go to

810
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: Carn and host people and like, I was so close

811
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: to going a few times, I've never made it. And

812
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: now he's not going over there as much. And Nelly's

813
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: retired and um, but it's it's always been fixed in

814
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: my brain. I mean, there's any place in all of

815
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: golf I want to get too car and is like

816
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: right at the top of the list. So I love

817
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: your impressions of it. It It kind of confirms everything I've

818
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: always believed. And yeah, I mean the best pint of

819
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 1: Guinness as well. Yes, so let's talk about that sidebar

820
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: in the Guinness like best yea, why is that? Like

821
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: is the Guinness different from place to place? Oh yeah,

822
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: apparently and and Guinness so if you serve Guinness in

823
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: your pub, Guinness sends people out there to clean your

824
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: lines and in quality control. Our driver, Darren shout out

825
00:48:55,600 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: there and it was a former Guinness tap linesman, not

826
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: sure if that was his actual title, but he would

827
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: clean the you know the lines, Yeah, the lines. Yeah.

828
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: So yeah, so Guinness does quality control at every pub,

829
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: said Darren. Said. Carnes got a great or rather a

830
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: grand pint of Guinness. Well that's interesting. We we had

831
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: this conversation. He was cold, it was it was And

832
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 1: by the way, I think it's also because after you're

833
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 1: done hiking, carn like, it just tastes true now come.

834
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: My favorite part of the whole trip about my road

835
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: I have for your mother's milk. M I'm saying, for

836
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: some reason, they taste so much better. Never once I've

837
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: gone to a bar Americans to not give me a guinness,

838
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: But in Ireland give me a guinness. Can't You can't

839
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: get the words out fast enough getting in the car

840
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: pub Guinness and father's son I was doing. I was

841
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 1: drinking a lot of guinness. But once we got once

842
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: we got going and playing, you know, it's kind of

843
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: slowed down because it's not like they're serving you guinness

844
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: out on the golf course. You kind of gotta go

845
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: earn it and you gotta stick around afterwards. And you know,

846
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: Jerry McGuire is the is the you know, you'd call

847
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: him the director of golf there. He does the job

848
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: for free. He was one of my favorite. I mean,

849
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: we we ran in so many amazing people. But is

850
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: it Fiona. It's Jerry and Fiona run carn and I

851
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: mean not only the best guinness, but like we had,

852
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: we had a really great meal there. The hospitality I

853
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: mean brings a tear to my eye. Honestly, these people

854
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 1: are as as down home quality people you'll ever come

855
00:50:55,440 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 1: across and uh, they were really they they you couldn't

856
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: leave Carn without I mean they touch you. They're like

857
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: that that you know you can't, like I said in

858
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: a tweet, you can't help but root for Carna, Like

859
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: this place is going to benefit from Marion in Port

860
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: New and and St Patrick's at Rossa Panna because of

861
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: kind of this this northern shift. And no one's happier

862
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: than me for for Fiona and jere McGuire and all

863
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: the people car because I love that. I love that,

864
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: all right, So now let's get to St Patrick's and

865
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: uh and the other and the hands course, like come on,

866
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: let's hear it. So after Karn was Narni Port New Yeah. Yeah.

867
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: If you like Pebble Beach and you would rather have

868
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: two Carmel base there, you go to get someone like

869
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: kil Hans and Jim Widner to take their time to

870
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: come here. I mean those their schedules are ridiculous. And

871
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 1: to get them to come here and take us on board,

872
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: it was like buying a lot of ticket and winning

873
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,919
Speaker 1: a lotta that's Liam McDivitt who helped rescue the course

874
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,959
Speaker 1: in He and his partner Larry fully bought the debt

875
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: of one point seven million euros and had to put

876
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: several million back into the place. To play there for

877
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: a hundred fifty five dollars isn't exactly like winning the Lotto,

878
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 1: but it's close. Even closer. Locals pay roughly six d

879
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: dollars to play for a year. What Gil and Jim

880
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: did you know? They basically had an impact on you know,

881
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: every hole, whether it was teas greens, location of greens,

882
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: you know, uh, slight sort of routing tweaks, condensing holes

883
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: into threes or making them fours, and and and what

884
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: what they've done. And it's a beautif talking about a

885
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: beautiful little beach town there. Um and and cool little

886
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: vibe and aesthetic. When we rock up, there's a food

887
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: truck in the in the parking, in the in the parking,

888
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: we're a lot. There's kids everywhere, people are playing in

889
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: T shirts and short and and uh, it's just this beautiful,

890
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: non pretentious but also pristine looking experience. And um and

891
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: we had played with Liam, one of the owners. He's

892
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 1: a local. He's he's living and has lived in America.

893
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: Kind of this is coming back. He and Larry Foley,

894
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: whose son I played with the father's son. You know,

895
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:27,280
Speaker 1: he's a Irish American who you know, loves Ireland as

896
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: as you know, as much as anybody does. And they

897
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: bought this, you know, Larry Foley bought its sight unseen

898
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: on his partner Liam's suggestion, Jill Hanson Jim Wagner went

899
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: over there and just I mean I did never played

900
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: it before, but what I played was an absolute gas

901
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: just so much fun, absolutely beautiful, great, uh little you know,

902
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: combination of holes. We had a rainbow over the gulf.

903
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: You know, you're playing down to little greens like you

904
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: do on the seventh and Pebble Beach, like there's a

905
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: couple versions of that. Not to mention, Liam mc adivot,

906
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: the owner who is out there with us, caddied there

907
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: for a euro around as a kid as a kid. Yeah,

908
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: that's gotta be a stage name. Yeah, I'm changing. I'm

909
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: changing my last see to make dvot and so now what,

910
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: by the way, one of about twenty seven that we've met, Yeah,

911
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: that was the was the same as the Guinness count. Afterwards,

912
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: we go to the food truck and Liam goes, all right,

913
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: we'll take this food truck is insane it's the best

914
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: pizza and tacos you'll ever have. And Liam Rock said,

915
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: he goes, all right, We'll take eight taco short ripped tacos,

916
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: will have eight pizzas, will have to lamb you know,

917
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: we'll have a calamari. We we feasted. We feasted that

918
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: night in out of a food truck at Aaron and

919
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: Port New NonStop all year long to play Pebble Beach.

920
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: Once we won't be going to Pebble Beach. I just

921
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: wanted to give you a little perspective of where I

922
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,720
Speaker 1: come from. That was the group of guys we walked

923
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: up the eighteenth with sun setting behind us. I had

924
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: pointed out to them that they pay the same, if

925
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: not less, to play narn and Port New all year

926
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: long versus what anyone pays to play Pebble Beach once.

927
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: They weren't interested in that deal. And if you're playing

928
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: near and in Port New, you can't blame him. So

929
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,720
Speaker 1: Narni Port New is going to UH. I was thinking, Wow,

930
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: this is amazing what this is going to do for

931
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: the North, like unbelievable. And then we went to Rossa

932
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: Penna and St. Patrick. But between that is where we

933
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,280
Speaker 1: went to Christ Island. So this is what the amazing

934
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: thing is is is between naron Port New and Sapenna.

935
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: This is why Critch Island, which is a nine hole

936
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: you know, made out of the farm, made from the

937
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: shovels of the farmers who lived around in the area

938
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: where you can't even get a big bus over this

939
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: little bridge in order to get to Chritch Island where

940
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: they don't even have any merchandise in the pro shop.

941
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: And we played guy who for twenty years was not

942
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: only the supertendent, he was the GM he was the

943
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: head pro, he was the and Brian and he and

944
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: he hosted this. We rocked up there like on two wheels.

945
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: Uh nar an important who gave us three sets of

946
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: clubs so all five of us could play. Wind is

947
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: blowing the only rain. We pretty much got the whole

948
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 1: trip for the first hole and then it cleared up

949
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: and then it was like the greatest nine hole, the

950
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: best value and greatest nine hole golf course maybe in

951
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: the world. Is it just a coincidence that like the

952
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 1: most fun golf holes were made by old Tom Morris

953
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,919
Speaker 1: who as like the first guy ever had no idea

954
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: what he was doing. And then the farmers that just

955
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: like make up holes these the farmers and like basically

956
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: the something about the local priests you said, you know, yeah,

957
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: go ahead, you can't get the land from the church. Yeah,

958
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: they Landford Church. They made the golf course. Took him

959
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: four years to build these nine holes with shovels. And

960
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: sixth hole, well you'll see the six holes of part

961
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: three is like a mini version of sixteen at Cyprus Point.

962
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: This is the most metal golf course I've ever heard of.

963
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: You pay like thirty or thirty bucks to play nine holes,

964
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: or fifty bucks to play a team. We had, um,

965
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: it was we we had the bet with the like

966
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 1: pound for pound, like the best time of anything and

967
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: everything we did was the nine holes we played at

968
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: Christi Island because low expectations, it was like we all

969
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: got to play. We had such a time. It was amazing.

970
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: It was like we were five kids that like got

971
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: led into Disneyland by ourselves with no one else there,

972
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: and we just ran around like crazy. They don't have

973
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: but they do have Guinness. Yeah for um. For the

974
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: listeners at home whose interest has been majorly picked, we

975
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: should just point out it's spelled c r U I

976
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: T it's like Crewett Island if that's not how they

977
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: say it over there, and then it took a while

978
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 1: for us to figure out how to say it. Yeah, yeah, No,

979
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:36,439
Speaker 1: it's definitely a cult classic. Um. Laurence Donnegan, the long

980
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: time golf read or he's he tweeted about it maybe

981
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: a year ago, a year and a half ago that

982
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: is like his favorite course in the world or something

983
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: equally hyperbolic. And that was the first time I've ever

984
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: heard about it, and I immediately googled it and I've

985
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: seen the photos. It does look just absolutely spectacular and

986
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: clearly it's got a special ambiance. So that's awesome. So

987
00:58:56,160 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: now Matt, who has a long history of jousting with

988
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: Tom Doak, both as a human and as a designer,

989
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: and um, I've heard him swear various oaths involving Tom

990
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: Doak's name. Um, from tar Eady to Cape Kidnappers to

991
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: uh stream songs. You go down the list, but you

992
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: get to St. Patrick's and your belief is what Matt

993
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: finish that sentence, Well, I mean I should probably address

994
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: some of the Tom dot that you just laid out.

995
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I I have a lot of

996
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: respect for Tom Doke the designer, I don't I don't

997
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: think his greens are a great match for modern day

998
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: green speeds. It's not there. They're too much undulation to

999
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: handle green speeds of eleven and twelve, which is generally

1000
00:59:55,560 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: what high end resorts do two to golf versus in

1001
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: America in an effort to sort of justify large green

1002
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: fees or to sort of pump the chest on like

1003
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: we've got fast greens. And and Doke doesn't relent on,

1004
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: you know, and less strongly encouraged by Mike Kaiser. Basically,

1005
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 1: his his greens are not only too undulating for modern

1006
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: day greens fees, but with with good shots on approach shots,

1007
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: they just send balls in a lot of various directions,

1008
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: unnecessarily and unfairly in most cases. And you know, and

1009
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: and I'm an amateur, and so you know, I I

1010
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: have poked at Tom doke Um for that because I

1011
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: think it's I think that he costs himself in what

1012
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: I think is is Um being revered is one of

1013
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: the greatest of of of his generation. There are some

1014
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: people who say he is the greatest. I would say

1015
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: that because of because of three to four or five

1016
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: and sometimes screens per course, it's not. It's not it

1017
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 1: gets in the way of the good time and the

1018
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,439
Speaker 1: good is done and the good routings and the other

1019
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: genius stuff he's done. That being said, when we rocked

1020
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: up to Rossa Penna and St Patrick's and that golf

1021
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: course and what he's done is um it's the in

1022
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: my opinion, you know, having just walked it and you know,

1023
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: I saw the scale, like this has to be his best.

1024
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: To me, he got he would. It's like he had

1025
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: the land of both Bandon and Pacific to build the

1026
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: ultimate band and Dunes golf course. The scale and the

1027
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 1: dunes and the and the and the position of the

1028
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 1: holes along the water and and the routing and the drama,

1029
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: the build up to the end. It's it's and they're

1030
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: going to run the green speeds at nine because that's

1031
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: sort of what they do in Ireland because the wind

1032
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: always blows and you have to still have it be playable.

1033
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 1: So great to be at nine in Ireland for this

1034
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: tom Dok golf course, and to have the land he

1035
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: had and where he's at in his career to do

1036
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: what he's you know, to do what he did. To me,

1037
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 1: it's the it's the best case scenario. Expectations were pretty high,

1038
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: to be fair with you know, Sandons Sands say, you

1039
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: know in Tom's Tom's record with with all of the above.

1040
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, John and I have been friends and our

1041
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: fans and friends of Tom's for a long time. So

1042
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 1: it was just a good foot And while on the

1043
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 1: subject of Tom Doak, Dream Golf, which consists of Bandon, Duons,

1044
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: Sand Valley and Cabot Cape Breton, have created a cool offer.

1045
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: As you probably know, Bannon just announced that it will

1046
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: host th usj Amateur championships over the next twenty three years,

1047
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: starting with the US Junior Amateur and at sand Valley,

1048
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: Dope is restoring the Lego Golf Club, which many consider

1049
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: one of the greatest courses ever built and by the

1050
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: pictures I've seen it looks insane anyway. To celebrate, Dream

1051
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: Golf is offering a four day, three nights day in

1052
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: July in which you can either be one of the

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Speaker 1: and the Casey family back to the round table. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think about like the New York Skyland.

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01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: You feel like it's it's fixed, um, and yet they're

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01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 1: always someone's always build the new skyscraper. And how cool

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01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 1: is it that you know, they're still finding new links

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Speaker 1: courses in Ireland and two of them, Uh, it's it's exciting.

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Speaker 1: And Rossa Penna already has too too good golf course

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01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 1: and they have a beautiful hotel there. And the Casey

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Speaker 1: family are amazing people. Um, the sons uh, Frank and

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Speaker 1: John basically like the Kaiser boys. So Frank Sr. Casey

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Speaker 1: has been running this hotel and these golf courses, and

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Speaker 1: his two sons are like Michael and Chris Kaiser like

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01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 1: they're they're they're super thoughtful, intellectual, humble, uh gracious, classy.

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Speaker 1: You know, guys in their thirties who have been a

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Speaker 1: part of this whole culture for you know, for a

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Speaker 1: long time, watching their dad do what he does. And

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Speaker 1: now they're you know, their dad is still very much involved,

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01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 1: but he they're they're really sort of breaking up the hospitality,

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Speaker 1: the hotel and the golf and it's a it's I

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Speaker 1: will tell you that when you know, I thought naron

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Speaker 1: I Port knew was going to be a nice draw

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01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 1: to the north and you see St Patrick's rossa Penna

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01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 1: and knowing what we know again about the value and

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Speaker 1: this this, this is going to be the golf course

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Speaker 1: that with the dok enthusiasts and the gil hands enthusiasts

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01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 1: and value enthusiasts and people who have already checked the

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01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 1: boxes in the south and the Southwest, who have played

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01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 1: all those golf courses, there is going to be a

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01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 1: seismic shift to the north and the Northwest for the

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Speaker 1: next ten years, for the foreseeable future because oft and

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Speaker 1: let's not forget the Open at Port Rush kind of

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01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 1: put that course and a whole other category all the

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01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 1: there's been all this, there's been a movement happening in

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01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 1: our glass has gone from five international golfers to five thousand,

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01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 1: you know, over the last you know, five years. I

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01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 1: mean there's already been this kind of discovery of the valley.

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01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 1: Lifting played really well in the Irish Open. Royal County

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Speaker 1: Down was the first one where where Rory hosted. Rory

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Speaker 1: getting in the Irish Open. It playing well you know,

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Speaker 1: you know happened at the Hinge too with romb bet

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01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 1: that that kind of is all that's all happening. Yeah,

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01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: well so so this this becomes the ultimate question your

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Speaker 1: your golfer traveling from the US or somewhere else, far

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Speaker 1: far far away, and you only have one week, say

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01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: you can't through the entire Irish island, So do you

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Speaker 1: go to the north or do you go to the south.

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01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 1: What's that answer? Now? The Southwest? You know, to deprive

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Speaker 1: yourself of Lahinch, Trille, Waterville, Vally Bunyan, old Head, you know,

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Speaker 1: dune bag Uh, you know, Dukes. I mean that's that's

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Speaker 1: that is, that's as good as it gets. That is

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Speaker 1: the supreme beings of Irish golf. But next up is now,

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Speaker 1: I mean it was all I I love the North anyway,

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Speaker 1: Port Rouge, Port Stewart, are Glass, Royal County down there

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01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: was there's plenty up there, Castle Rock. But now you

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01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 1: have more options in the north and the Northwest is

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01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 1: now becoming Now the lines are blurred. Now there's a

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Speaker 1: bit of more of a shift and now you can

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Speaker 1: actually make a truly north northwest trip. And like we

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01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 1: didn't even play Royal County down. We didn't play Port Stewart,

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01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: we didn't do Port Rush, which you know, which is

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01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: is epic. But my god, that's in the conversation that

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Speaker 1: that holds up And if you're gonna go value, that's

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Speaker 1: where you go. And if you want to get it

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Speaker 1: in before it gets super popular, yeah, yeah, get it

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01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: in now before it becomes I mean, I liked what

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Speaker 1: you guys said on top of this podcast is probably

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Speaker 1: an hour and a half ago now that it felt

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Speaker 1: like Ireland two or three decades ago, your experience you

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Speaker 1: just had and um and I think I think that's

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Speaker 1: that's what the Northwest is going to be for a

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Speaker 1: long time. And just a we don't know the geography

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Speaker 1: that well. I mean, most folks would fly into Dublin

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01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 1: and then if you just start going north you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get to Royal County down before anything else. You go

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01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 1: up these coasts and then hit Port Rush and just

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01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 1: do a loop and you go west and you could

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01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 1: you could do it one great circle just in the

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01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 1: northern half of the island and could you could cut

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Speaker 1: straight northwest get to Donegal and then donegalz in the

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01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 1: middle is right minutes from man in Port New St

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01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 1: Patrick's is an hour and a half from Donegal and

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Speaker 1: then do it that way too. Yeah, and the Belfast too,

1139
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 1: by the way, you you can go. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: there are flights in both and there's actually a flight

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Speaker 1: over to an airport in the northwest out of Dublin

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01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 1: that you can connect that gets you into the heart

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01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 1: of the Northwest. There is there, and it's only one

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01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:52,560
Speaker 1: flight a day. But and I suspect there will be

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01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 1: more of those flights, you know. I would bet you

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01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,719
Speaker 1: know all my four oh and k that three years

1147
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,799
Speaker 1: from now, assuming you know, everything clears up with COVID,

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01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 1: that there will be a lot more flights going in

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01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: and out of the airport in the Northwest. They're they're

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01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 1: not gonna be big planes, but I think there'll be

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Speaker 1: more flights. Before we get to final thoughts and favorite moments,

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Speaker 1: make park. Do anyone have a favorite moment? What do

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Speaker 1: you got cold other than winning? I mean we didn't

1161
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 1: even I feel like we need to spin off podcasts

1162
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 1: for everything. Like, you know, the goats at le Hine

1163
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 1: was hilarious. Matt didn't believe they were there. Did we

1164
01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 1: find them? Maybe you'll have to see market Nolan and

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01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: his mom at let Hite grabbing beer as he lives. Literally,

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Speaker 1: you know, you go Klondike and uh and what is it?

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01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 1: Del Klondike and del Klondike On the fourth Marcus lives

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01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 1: right behind the green. He runs into the house grabs

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01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 1: beers for us. You know, we get a refresh in

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01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 1: between two template holes. That's pretty ridiculous. But um, you know,

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01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 1: the whole part of the Father's Son is is the

1172
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,639
Speaker 1: the Irish mass priest comes in. You have the Irish

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01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 1: mass that there's the whole Irish mass hole out at

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01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 1: Waterville and the twelfth whole part through where there's a

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01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 1: huge pit. Hundreds of years ago. You know, having mass

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01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 1: was punishable by death at the time. They would go

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01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 1: out there have mass in the pits so nobody could

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01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 1: see him. I mean Waterville is built out on the

1179
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 1: you know, this peninsula is the golf course. That's it.

1180
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 1: That's all that's on the peninsula. But anyway, we had

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01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 1: it out at Marty's House UM this year and it

1182
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 1: was a sort of a uh memorial service for a

1183
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:03,640
Speaker 1: couple of the guys that have been a part of

1184
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 1: the tournament UM in the past and again rolling into

1185
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 1: the father's son without knowing a whole lot about it,

1186
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 1: to experience Irish mass there and to to experience the

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01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 1: emotions that were a part of that and you know,

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01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 1: celebrate the um the lives of some of the guys

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01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 1: that have lived that tournament over the years. It was heavy,

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01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 1: It was heavy, and it was it was eye opening

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01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 1: UM and uh really enjoyable as well. M but you

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01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 1: out fair moment. Castle Rock played as a crew part

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01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 1: of the thing and I went home. I stuck one close,

1194
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 1: stuck one close, two for one. That's right. That eight

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01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 1: favorite moment. First hole on one cot you covered Matt's bird,

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Speaker 1: I think as well out a yeah, if I'm not taken,

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Speaker 1: I did that drivable far forward. Appreciate that. I appreciated

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Speaker 1: that I was out of the hole, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: How about you, Maddie man. I you know, for me,

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01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 1: it's I mean, I I eagled my last hole, the

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01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: eighteenth hold of the father's son of Waterville down wind

1202
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 1: some some I had nine iron into the green and

1203
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 1: uh and made the putt, which was my golf highlight

1204
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 1: by far. And but it's it's all about I mean,

1205
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,680
Speaker 1: our glass is kind of the goat Hill Park of Ireland,

1206
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 1: you know, of of Northern Ireland, and it's it's um

1207
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 1: the people there, you know, become become friendly with the

1208
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: several years ago they made me an honorary member, you know.

1209
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 1: Uh they presented it to me at the p J

1210
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 1: Merchandise Show. I you I didn't know what, you know,

1211
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't even know what that. That's amazing

1212
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 1: honor like the you know, the oldest clubhouse in the

1213
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 1: world fourteen oh six or something and uh yeah, our

1214
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: Glass and uh so this was my first time back there.

1215
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 1: Paul Vaughan, the pro um Fit see is kind of

1216
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 1: the eleven time club champion, was our host and uh

1217
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: we had we went lobstering. I met up with the

1218
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 1: the three brothers who owned the Dire Wolves, or were

1219
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: used as the Dire Wolves. Uh. And um got you know,

1220
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: become friendly with them. We met up with them, We

1221
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 1: had drinks in the pub with them, We played the

1222
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 1: golf course the next morning, and uh and we we

1223
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 1: sang songs until two in the morning. The whole Art

1224
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:50,560
Speaker 1: Glass thing, to me is is my super spiritual I

1225
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 1: think there's some there's magic in the land and the

1226
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 1: and there's certainly magic in the in the people and

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01:13:55,800 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 1: the community there, and uh, it's cool. It's a really

1228
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 1: cool thing. And so being able to go back there

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01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 1: that was, you know, of all the things, I got

1230
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 1: ten favorite things, twenty favorite things, thirty favorite things, and

1231
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 1: thirty favorite people that we met. But heart Glass is

1232
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 1: kind of the one for me, My heart love. This

1233
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 1: is a fun journey. I mean, I don't know if

1234
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 1: it made my fomo worst or better, but it's it's

1235
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 1: great to hear the stories and it's it's fun to

1236
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 1: think about. There's bitterness in your tone from the beginning. No,

1237
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 1: I'm supportive. I'm supportive, but anyway, think thanks for filling

1238
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:48,839
Speaker 1: us all in. I mean, yeah, I think the decision

1239
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 1: between between the Ireland and Scotland is much harder than

1240
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 1: it's ever been, especially when you're adding these two new

1241
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:58,640
Speaker 1: courses and and Port Russias Star Turn and all of it.

1242
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 1: So it's if it's that, I mean, it's definitely a

1243
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 1: win win, but it's it's certainly something about Ireland. I mean,

1244
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 1: the people and the culture is so inviting and anyway,

1245
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 1: this is great stuff that was well said Alan, like,

1246
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 1: it's never been more of a closer fight between Scotland

1247
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 1: and Ireland. And at the end of the day, if

1248
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 1: you really you know, on the plenty of the golf

1249
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 1: stacks up, the golf can go, you know, one for one,

1250
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 1: you can go back and forth. But at the end

1251
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 1: of the day, what happens off course in Ireland and

1252
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 1: Northern Ireland is unlike anything else really in the world.

1253
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 1: The people and the warmth and the only thing they

1254
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 1: take seriously over there is making sure that you have

1255
01:15:47,200 --> 01:16:09,679
Speaker 1: a good time. You're very good at it. I'm all done,

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Speaker 1: open Si