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Speaker 2: from the AG studio and you are listening to Hurdle,

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Speaker 2: a wellness focused podcast where I connect with everyone from

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Speaker 2: these discussions is to empower you to better navigate yours

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Speaker 2: along the way. This week I am chatting with Jordan.

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Speaker 2: She's a professional volleyball player and three time Olympic medalists,

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Speaker 2: guided by both of her parents to pursue and love sport.

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Speaker 3: A huge thank you to Jordan for her time.

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Speaker 2: I had a blast recording this and after this conversation

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 2: I am sitting down with Jordan Larsen. She is a

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Speaker 3: How you doing today?

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Speaker 4: Good? Good? Thanks for having me, Oh my.

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Speaker 3: Gosh, thank you for sitting down with me.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to congratulate you on first, whether

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Speaker 1: My parents always encouraged me to talk to a third party,

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Speaker 3: Totally, yeah, totally just curious on my end.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I always wanted play after college, but I didn't

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So at the time, we didn't have a professional league

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Speaker 1: the summer, the national team plays in between four to

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Speaker 1: five tournaments a year, but every one of those tournaments

441
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Speaker 1: you're basically making a cut. We train with twenty four

442
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 1: and then they come down to twelve or fourteen, depending

443
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Speaker 1: on the tournament, and that is basically just a cycle

444
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Speaker 1: through the four years. So we're overseas between eight six

445
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Speaker 1: to eight months, and then we're worth the national team

446
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,159
Speaker 1: the rest of the time and then yep, again that

447
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,879
Speaker 1: just cycles every four years. So you're hoping that in

448
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 1: those four years you're constantly making those fourteen person rosters

449
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 1: every tournament, and then when it comes to the Olympics,

450
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,120
Speaker 1: you're hoping to make that final roster. I've had girls

451
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 1: start the whole team like the whole four years and

452
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Speaker 1: then not make the Olympic roster. So it's very very

453
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Speaker 1: interesting for you.

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Speaker 3: I know you've been to three Olympics.

455
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Speaker 2: Now, did you ever have a concern or worry about

456
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Speaker 2: not making the roster yourself?

457
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Speaker 1: You know, I think my first time going to the Olympics,

458
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Speaker 1: I think I even though I had been starting, I

459
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,199
Speaker 1: had been starting pretty much all four years until they

460
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Speaker 1: actually tell you, like, hey, you are part of the

461
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Speaker 1: twelve going to London.

462
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Speaker 4: You know, like it.

463
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Speaker 1: Doesn't really hit you until that point, and so I

464
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Speaker 1: think there was a little more concern at that point.

465
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Speaker 1: But I think in Rio and in Tokyo, I had

466
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Speaker 1: kind of even if I wasn't starting. I think the

467
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 1: leadership part, the experience part really kind of kind of

468
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 1: sets you just a little bit higher, not advantage, but

469
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Speaker 1: it definitely has some weight to it, and so I

470
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Speaker 1: think there wasn't maybe as much concern as there was

471
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Speaker 1: that first club.

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Speaker 2: So you mentioned the importance of going overseas to train,

473
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Speaker 2: especially if you want to excel in the sport. Fill

474
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Speaker 2: us in on the decision the first time around to

475
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Speaker 2: go overseas and talk to us about where you went.

476
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I actually graduated college early semester early, so

477
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Speaker 1: I graduated December, and then at the time, Puerto Rico

478
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Speaker 1: was kind of like a semi pro season and so

479
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 1: it was only three months long, and it was kind

480
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Speaker 1: of nice because it transitioned right into the national team,

481
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Speaker 1: so I didn't have to go over like over in Europe.

482
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Speaker 1: And so I went to Puerto Rico, got a play

483
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: and then start went to the national team, and then

484
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Speaker 1: while I was in Thailand with the national team, we

485
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: played Russia and one of their assistant coaches had noticed

486
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Speaker 1: me and he wanted me to come to Russia, and

487
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Speaker 1: so I started and I started going to Russia, and yeah,

488
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Speaker 1: it was a unique experience to go there. The team

489
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Speaker 1: had just moved up to like the first division, and

490
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Speaker 1: so definitely didn't have like a lot of resources, especially

491
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Speaker 1: coming from college that Nebraska had. I mean, we chartered

492
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: everywhere like it was high you know, high level, and

493
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Speaker 1: going from that to like Russia was definitely a big,

494
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Speaker 1: big shock, you know, bulah blah wise for sure, and

495
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Speaker 1: culturally as well.

496
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Speaker 2: It's interesting, right because volleyball obviously team sport, but all

497
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 2: of this travel, I would imagine that it could be

498
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: really lonely, oh for sure.

499
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I to get a little more vulnerable.

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Speaker 4: I was actually married.

501
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Speaker 1: So I got married right out of college in two

502
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Speaker 1: thousand and nine to my or my high school my

503
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: college boyfriend at the time, and so he actually tried

504
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Speaker 1: He actually traveled with me for the first three seasons

505
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Speaker 1: while I was overseas. We were married for seven years.

506
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Speaker 1: But as you can imagine, marriage is tough, and then marriage.

507
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Speaker 1: On top of training with the national team and playing professionally,

508
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: he was with me all the time, and then apart

509
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: from me on the national team with me all the time.

510
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Speaker 1: So it just became really stressful in our marriage and

511
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Speaker 1: we actually split. Gosh, it will be almost five years

512
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: six years now, and so but I think that I

513
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: had to learn.

514
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Speaker 4: To be on my own. I didn't know what it

515
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Speaker 4: was like.

516
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Speaker 1: I had never really I'd been solely by myself a

517
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 1: little bit in college, but I feel like you're still

518
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: surrounded by so many people that I need to learn

519
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: how to be me and how does Jordan function without

520
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 1: someone someone there? And it was really like so empowering

521
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: and I had to learn a lot. But yeah, but

522
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: definitely lonely at times. But I think I've gotten real

523
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: comfortable just being okay with with that space and striving

524
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Speaker 1: in that space.

525
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Speaker 2: So for you, at this time when you separated from

526
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Speaker 2: your ex husband, do you remember how you kind of

527
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: pulled yourself out of these dark moments? Because I think

528
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Speaker 2: that it goes without saying that you everyone experience experiences

529
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 2: those moments when you're when you're dealing with heartache, even

530
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 2: if you know that you know it's the right thing

531
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 2: for you, right, Like it doesn't doesn't make it easier

532
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 2: that like someone I don't know royally messed up or not.

533
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 2: It's like when something comes to an end, you have

534
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 2: to like mourn that loss and for you and more

535
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 2: in that loss, and also take on the responsibilities that

536
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 2: come hand in hand with being a teammate.

537
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Speaker 3: How was that?

538
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely wasn't easy. A lot of soul searching

539
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: at that point. Again, at seeing a psychologist like I was,

540
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: I was going to therapy myself and trying to understand

541
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 1: is this right for me? And is this right for us?

542
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: And trying to search for those answers. I remember journal

543
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: journaling a lot. I remember at one point in my

544
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,959
Speaker 1: journal I was like, man, I just build a house,

545
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 1: Like I was just like all these things were I

546
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 1: just went to the Olympic. I mean, I was just

547
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: like all these things were great? But why am I

548
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: still in this? Like I don't feel like myself, Like

549
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I'm who I am. And I

550
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: really just spent time journaling and reading about relationships and

551
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: how can I be better? And what can I learn

552
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Speaker 1: as a teammate? How can I be a better teammate

553
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 1: because I just don't think I was a great teammate

554
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: because I was so caught up in everything that was

555
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Speaker 1: going on at home, and I was kind of a

556
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 1: long answer, but yeah, yeah.

557
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 4: It's tough.

558
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 1: It's not like you said, you are morning, and whether

559
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: it's the right decision or not, it's it's tough.

560
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, And I think it's what's interesting here.

561
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 2: You said that I needed to work on getting better

562
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 2: at being by myself. And I think so often like

563
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: we hear this wisdom, right, it's like you need to

564
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,959
Speaker 2: be okay on your own before you can be with

565
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Speaker 2: somebody else. But a lot of the time I get

566
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 2: messages from women, and I mean, I'm a single woman

567
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: in my mid thirties who feels very good at this

568
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: point being alone, but hopes to one day have that

569
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: life partner so I can get myself a three year

570
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: old French bulldog. But basically the question is like, well,

571
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 2: how do I get good at being on my own?

572
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 2: What do you think, aside from the journaling and aside

573
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 2: from you know, the psychologist, like how did you get

574
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: your mindset to a place where you felt more comfortable

575
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 2: with that?

576
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Speaker 1: I think for me, I had to be okay with

577
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Speaker 1: the thought of not like being a the rest of

578
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: my life, Like can I be alone and be okay?

579
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: And the answer is heck, yeah, I can. I can

580
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: do a lot of things. And I think women today

581
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 1: are just so incredibly powerful and like, I think it's

582
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing to see such strong, powerful women standing

583
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: on their own two feet and not relying on someone

584
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: else one for their happiness or financial support or whatever

585
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 1: it is that I just and I don't know, I

586
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: just wanted to embrace that side of it so much

587
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: that that I wanted someone that came into my life

588
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: that was also equally as driven in that sense, and

589
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: that also enhanced that experience, like empowered me to continue

590
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: to strive to be my best version because if he's

591
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: his best version, then we can both be our best

592
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: versions together. And so but I think just that that

593
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: switch in my mind of like, hey, but if I

594
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: don't find anybody, like, that's okay too. I can still

595
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: have a kid by myself, Like, you know, there's ways

596
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: to have a family still and do such kick ass

597
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: things that like how cool, Like I just I think

598
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: that is like the coolest thing.

599
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's interesting as well, like touching

600
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Speaker 2: on this idea of knowing that you have worth as

601
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Speaker 2: you are just you. I think in society, especially when

602
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: it comes to women, like we are just like made

603
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: to feel as though like on our own we are

604
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 2: not enough, which is so messed up, and more and

605
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: more women are fighting for equal pay and now, like

606
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: you said, we have so much, so many more options

607
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: when it comes to like having families on our own.

608
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 2: And I also think that it goes like without saying

609
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: that it's so important that you know that, like, there's

610
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with you if you want to also do

611
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 2: these things with other people. It's just that it's important

612
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 2: that you find your sense of value as you are

613
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 2: just you.

614
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Speaker 4: For sure, absolutely, I think you nailed it on the head.

615
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: And yeah, I and it's maybe it's easier for me

616
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: because I've I've had a career and I've you know,

617
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: been to places and I've seen things and done things

618
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: that I've wanted to do, and you know, it's easy

619
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Speaker 1: for me to say that, you know, but yeah, it's

620
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: hard when when that's not the space in which you're operating.

621
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Speaker 1: But I think again, putting people in place in your

622
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: life that allow those things to happen for you.

623
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Speaker 3: So how long were you playing in Russia?

624
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Speaker 4: I ended up playing there for five years, which is

625
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 4: still crazy to me.

626
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Speaker 1: I'm like, how like even after the first year, I

627
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 1: was like, but they just kept they I mean, they

628
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: really treated me so well, and the team started like

629
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: really getting good and pumping more funds into.

630
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Speaker 4: It and like great athletes. So it was it was

631
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Speaker 4: a really good experience.

632
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: Did you struggle with any of like the cultural differences

633
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 2: or perhaps like the language barrier for sure?

634
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think one teammate now on that team spoke

635
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: like decent English, but there was like zero socializing like outside.

636
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: Really it was just because we just couldn't communicate. It

637
00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: was just like, hey, I want to talk to you,

638
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: but like we're just gonna sit here in silence, you know.

639
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

640
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: So it was a lot of like hand signals up down,

641
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: you know, Like I learned a little bit of Russian

642
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: like to play, but like as.

643
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Speaker 4: Far as like anything else, it was it was tough.

644
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 3: Wow, I mean talk about feeling really lonely then.

645
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, no, it was.

646
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: There was times where I was like, man, and I

647
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: think that's why I eventually transitioned to going to Turkey.

648
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 4: Because it was it was time to time to change

649
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 4: it up.

650
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: So when you went to Turkey, what would you say

651
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: was one of the biggest differences about going over there?

652
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: I think I think volleyball was just as high level

653
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: as it was in Russia at the time. But then

654
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: also like the whole team spoke English, like our coach

655
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: spokenng like spoke English. All the Turkish goals spoke English. Uh.

656
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: It's simple as a little more westernized than where I

657
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: was living in uh in Russia, And so there was

658
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: just a lot more freedoms that I was able to

659
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: like kind of move on like by myself if I

660
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: wanted to go out and do things like that. So

661
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: that was really what was enticing about it.

662
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Speaker 2: We're covering the fact that you've made such massive moves

663
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Speaker 2: to go after your dream, and for so many listening

664
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: right now, they may struggle with taking these big leaps

665
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 2: of faith, so to speak. In your experience and in

666
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Speaker 2: your experience, you know, what advice would you give to

667
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: these people who are want to trust their gut, but

668
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 2: they just don't know if they have the courage in them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, that's it's tough.

670
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Speaker 1: I think I think for me, what had kept me

671
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: going for like the longest time and still does is

672
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: like I don't want to look back, Like bullyball is

673
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: such a short lifespan, right, like okay, twenty years, but

674
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: it's still like when you think about it in perspective

675
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: to your entire life, it's such a short timeframe, and

676
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: I didn't want to get to the end of it,

677
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: like I don't want I didn't want to sit in

678
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Speaker 1: this chair today talking to you and be like I

679
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: wish I would have done this, or I wish I

680
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: would have done that, or I could have done this,

681
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Speaker 1: But I chigured out, like every chance that I've had

682
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Speaker 1: to like take that step or try something new, I've

683
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Speaker 1: really at the time I didn't want to, like I said,

684
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: but I did it. And now I can sit here

685
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: and say, like I literally like I have done everything

686
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Speaker 1: that I could to be here and to be proud

687
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: of what I've done. And so that in itself, that

688
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: disappointment or that regret was enough for me to like

689
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Speaker 1: not hesitate in those times of like kind of iffiness.

690
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Speaker 1: So I think when it comes to those like taking

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Speaker 1: a leap, like like why not, because if you don't

692
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: and you look back in your life and be like, hey,

693
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Speaker 1: I remember in twenty ten, I could have done this,

694
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Speaker 1: and I chose not to, Like I didn't want to

695
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Speaker 1: live with that. So that's that's kind of where I sat.

696
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Speaker 1: And I think even for me, I think that started

697
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Speaker 1: from like young with my parents, Like I just didn't

698
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Speaker 1: want to disappoint them. I think the weight of disappointing

699
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Speaker 1: my parents it was like such a motivation for me,

700
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Speaker 1: and I just wanted to make them proud and like

701
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: obviously like they were always beyond proud of me. There

702
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: was never this like harshness or you know, nothing of

703
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Speaker 1: that sort. But I just I didn't want to.

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Speaker 4: Be that kid that they're like, I don't know, what

705
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Speaker 4: did you do with your life? You know, I don't know.

706
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Speaker 4: I just that was just kept me going.

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Speaker 2: slash hurdle. I feel like the extrinsic motivation had to

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Speaker 2: turn to intrinsic motivation as you got older, right, because

762
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Speaker 2: it wasn't as though, you know, you go to an Olympics,

763
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Speaker 2: you go to two Olympics, like your parents are freaking

764
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: proud of you. Man, Right, So, like where where if

765
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 2: you had to try to like pinpoint the point where

766
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 2: you stopped being like, oh, I don't know if I

767
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Speaker 2: want to do this and realize like, no, this is

768
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Speaker 2: exactly what I want. Like you identified those goals quote

769
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: unquote when you were twelve, but like when did it

770
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Speaker 2: really shift?

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00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? Man, My thought is is like my first year

772
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 1: on the national team, I had to really learn every

773
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: skill pretty much every skill that has gotten me to

774
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: that point. So I had to relearn how to pass,

775
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: I had to relearn how to hit. I had to

776
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: relearn literally everything. And at that point I was a

777
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: national champion. I had been the three final fours, Like

778
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm pretty good. But then to have

779
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: to literally start over almost and like rebuild everything. I

780
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: was like and to become a learner. I always I

781
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: think I always was like my mom always talked about

782
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 1: be a sponge, like take it all in, like your

783
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: coach may be crazy.

784
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 4: But you got to apply it and try it.

785
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: And I think having to redo all that, like I

786
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: was like, huh, I feel like I'm I'm meant to

787
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 1: be here, Like I'm meant to be a volleyball player,

788
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: Like I'm meant to do something big, and like why

789
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: not continue to sharpen that tool and kind of make

790
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: it my craft and try to master the craft. And

791
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: still today I'm like, man, I like I was just

792
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: shaking balls left and right today in practice, and I'm like,

793
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: I still have so much to learn and so much

794
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 1: I want to learn.

795
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 3: Why did you have to relearn.

796
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 4: So a lot? It's kind of it gets a little technical,

797
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 4: but I was learning.

798
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: Like with passing, for example, the ball at the international

799
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: level comes so fast that you don't have time to

800
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: really move your feet necessarily, Like all you have to

801
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: do is stick out your arms and let the ball

802
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: like do it. Like your arms do a lot of

803
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: the work, but let the ball like reflect off your arms.

804
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: And like I was getting the ball more in my

805
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: midline where we wanted to take it more outside of

806
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: our body line, and so having to learn how to

807
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: do that and then like approach efficiently to the ball

808
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: just really hone down on simplifying the skill versus like

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00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: making all these movements so complicated.

810
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: Another technical question, why is the ball coming faster to

811
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 2: you on an international level than on this level?

812
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, just because the players are bigger, faster, stronger than

813
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: hitting the ball harder. So and again I was that

814
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: ignorant person coming out of college, like I'm pretty good,

815
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Speaker 1: Like you know, like I did all these things like

816
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: which are great, but and I didn't understand. Like watching

817
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, it looks faster, but like it

818
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: doesn't seem that hard. But then when I got in,

819
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I get why you need to

820
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: go overseas and understand and learn and read and do

821
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: all these things because it just it's a much different game.

822
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Speaker 2: So where are you when you find out that you

823
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: made your first Olympic team?

824
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 4: I was, Anna, I'm in California.

825
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Speaker 1: And the cool thing about at that time, they like

826
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Speaker 1: called you into the office, so we trained with At

827
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Speaker 1: that point, I want to say it was like eighteen

828
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: that they cut down to twelve, and so you come

829
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Speaker 1: in the office, you sit around all the coaches are

830
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: sitting there and yeah, they that's how it said, like, Hey,

831
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Speaker 1: we just want to congratulate you on you are part

832
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Speaker 1: of the twelve going to London, And I was just like.

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Speaker 4: Is this real?

834
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Speaker 3: Wow?

835
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Speaker 2: I can't even imagine the feelings that come hand in

836
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 2: hand with like being in that room and like your

837
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 2: dream coming coming true in this moment. I also would

838
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 2: imagine that it has to be hard to come out

839
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 2: of that room and feel so happy and on cloud

840
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: nine knowing that there are other women that you care

841
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 2: about deeply, this being such a connected team sport that

842
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: didn't have that same meeting.

843
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: That is what's tough, is because you think you know

844
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 1: who the team is, and you think you know who's

845
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: on it, and yeah, like those girls that didn't get

846
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 1: to hear that that day, and just like the heartbreak

847
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: their feeling and how do you use a teammate like

848
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: console them, you know? And yeah, it's just it's a

849
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: tough space and gives me chills because it's just like

850
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: and I again, I don't think at that point in

851
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: my life like I was present enough to know and

852
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 1: to understand like the impact or like how I could

853
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 1: be there for my teammates because I was so just

854
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: wrapped up in my own if that I just like

855
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: I could, I didn't have the capacity, And it's I

856
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: think that's talk about regret. Like I think that's one

857
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: read that I do have is like being a little

858
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: more like understanding and compassionate and taking the time to

859
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: really dive into those people.

860
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting.

861
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 2: I think, maybe more so in the last year than before,

862
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 2: I started to really understand.

863
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 3: What can come from listening in that.

864
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 2: Sometimes when we have these moments and things don't go

865
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 2: as planned and we're trying to process it, all we

866
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: want to do is talk to someone about it. And

867
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: that conversation isn't necessarily meant for that other individual to

868
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: provide feedback, but rather hopefully just to hold space. And

869
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: it seems as though at that time maybe that was

870
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 2: something that you hadn't really focused in on yet.

871
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 3: Either.

872
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 4: No, definitely not. Yeah, I think you're absolutely right.

873
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, just creating that space for them to

874
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 1: just even if it's silence, like just sitting there and

875
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: sitting with them and knowing that you're there, Like I,

876
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: like you said, I think that would have been head

877
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: and to like above what I what, I didn't even

878
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 1: attempt to do anything. It's just you know, a text

879
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: here and there. But like that's kind of lame, you know.

880
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: So did you have any sort of circumstance, whether it

881
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 2: was with London or with Rio or going forward, where

882
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 2: maybe someone had articulated that to you.

883
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I had a few coaches along the way

884
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: that just like like acknowledgment of not acknowledgment, but just

885
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: like an awareness around how my actions.

886
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 4: Were being perceived by others.

887
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: Now, I feel like I'm a very I come across

888
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 1: as one manner like I'm very like stoic. I have

889
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: this like external face, thank you my dad, and that

890
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: it's not that I look angry, but I'm not. And

891
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: I think that often is perceived in a manner that

892
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: is not what is really like in my heart and

893
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: how I actually feel. And so but I think also

894
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: my actions like in practice, like I would sit at

895
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: the end of the bench or you know, like I'm

896
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: very much a player that I don't really need a

897
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: lot of noise around me, like I just need to

898
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: focus on what's happening, and sometimes chatter like talking off

899
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: like I'd rather focus on what the coach is talking about.

900
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,479
Speaker 1: And so I was often kind of on my own,

901
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: but like it wasn't because I didn't want to be

902
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: around my teammates or didn't like them, you know. And

903
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: so but that awareness piece around, Hey, but what do

904
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: you think your teammates think of you when you do that?

905
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: Like and didn't even know, wasn't even aware. And so

906
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm just really grateful for that.

907
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 2: And I think that sometimes individuals have trouble opening themselves

908
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 2: up to that level of self awareness or even like

909
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 2: having some inquisition around that, because it can make us

910
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 2: feel as though we're doing something wrong by being how

911
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 2: we are. It doesn't necessarily even mean that you need

912
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: to change a behavior pattern. It just means that you

913
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: need to be cognizant of how something about you may

914
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: be interpreted by others.

915
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 4: Yep, a thousand percent.

916
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: But I but honestly in my heart at the time,

917
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: like I was like, I'm open to feedback and I

918
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: want to hear those things. But I think most people

919
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: even were attimidated to tell me those things, you know.

920
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: And so to have someone to even sit down and

921
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: like have the time to say, hey, like whoa I

922
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: would have I would have done something way different, like

923
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: tell me, you know, like I don't want to be

924
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: I want to be better, you know.

925
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's like coming at those conversations

926
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 2: with grace and like openness.

927
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 3: I get so many messages from women.

928
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 2: I mean this makes me think about like female friendships,

929
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 2: for example, and as you get older, especially a lot

930
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 2: of the time, like our friendships, they ebb and flow,

931
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 2: and some can be based on proximity and others can

932
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 2: be based on a mutual interest. And there are so

933
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 2: many reasons that these relationships do they that they do

934
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 2: ebb and flow, But coming to terms with that can

935
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: be like really difficult, and opening yourself up to.

936
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 3: Feedback that you may be scared to get is a

937
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 3: really scary thing to do.

938
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 4: It really is? It? Really is?

939
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 1: I listened to a podcast how it was like really

940
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: hard to like make friends in your thirties and forties

941
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 1: because you're just like like yeah, like you said, ebb

942
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: and flow, Like is it worth the time?

943
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 4: You know? Is if I am I going to move?

944
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 4: Like is it? Basically? Yeah, a proximity?

945
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 1: Like there's so many things and we're still trying to navigate,

946
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 1: like who we are as, you know, adults and what

947
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: we want in a friend. And yeah, I think you

948
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: said it.

949
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 3: You said it perfectly, So let's talk.

950
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you can't forget Rio, but I'm going

951
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 2: to fast forward us here a little bit to Tokyo.

952
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: Nothing like you thought it would be, but everything and

953
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 2: more question mark.

954
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a perfect, perfect stamp right there. Yeah, it's

955
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 1: I am ultimate and I think our team can attest

956
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: to this. If we the Olympics were in twenty twenty

957
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: how they were supposed to be. I don't think we

958
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: walk away.

959
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 3: With the gold medal, huh. Why?

960
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: Our team was just in very different place. We had

961
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: some newcomers coming in, Like our relationship with our staff

962
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: like wasn't I wouldn't say it wasn't great, but it

963
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: just it wasn't where we feel like it needed to be.

964
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: I think there was some turmoil on like who they

965
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: selected and whatever, and so we just weren't in a

966
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: great place. And so to have the pandemic and just

967
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: shut down everything and basically rebuild our culture. How do

968
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: we want to talk to each other? How do we

969
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: want to you know, manage an issue or if we

970
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: have a problem with staff, how do we want to

971
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: acknowledge it? And so having all those conversations have led

972
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: to just something so much bigger than I could have

973
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: ever dreamed about. So it's really something so special.

974
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: What worked best in a time that everything felt like

975
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 2: it wasn't supposed to be.

976
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 4: That's a good question.

977
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if this answered it, but I was

978
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 1: surprised by we would have meetings on Zoom and how

979
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: vulnerable people were able to be even on a screen,

980
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 1: you know, and how we were able to work through

981
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: some things that were hard. I think that really set

982
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: us up for success. I don't know if that answers

983
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: your question, because I mean toulate your question.

984
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 3: No, it totally, It totally answers the question.

985
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people kind of surprise themselves

986
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: in the way they were able to open up with

987
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 2: people that they didn't know so well over the last

988
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 2: sixteen eighteen months, and that like even within my community,

989
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 2: the hurdlers as I call them, we started doing a

990
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: lot of digital programming and to have the opportunity to

991
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 2: bring together mostly women from all over the world, of

992
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 2: women calling in from Hong Kong and Canada and like

993
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 2: Costa Rica and to get together with strangers and like

994
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,959
Speaker 2: feel okay, getting vulnerable. It's like really it's a really

995
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 2: special thing because in that vulnerability like can come a

996
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 2: lot of growth.

997
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, absolutely, And I think that's what I

998
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 1: think during the process, people are like, oh, another meeting another,

999
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: you know, like especially as an athlete, like you're just

1000
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: like you're tired, right, and you're just like want some

1001
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: time to shut down. But I think we could all

1002
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: say now that it was so worth it. And I

1003
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: think people bought into now, like hey, like having these

1004
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: talks like meet a lot and they pay off, and

1005
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: like you said, being vulnerable, like that's the only way

1006
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: you grow. It's really special when you when you can

1007
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: do it as a team and find this comhesive unit.

1008
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you find it in some

1009
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: of your like work relationships or whatever, but as a team,

1010
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: like sometimes you're not gonna fully agree with the person

1011
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: next to you, you know, and you know, but ultimately

1012
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: there's this like mutual respect. Hey, I respect you for

1013
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: who you are and what you bring to the game,

1014
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: and we're going to work together and whatever capacity that

1015
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: is for something that's much bigger than us. And if

1016
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: we can figure out how to drop our shit excuse

1017
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: my language, and be able to just move on and

1018
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: play together. Then like, that's that's the epitome. That's that's

1019
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: where success is really really meant to be for sure.

1020
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 2: So you've got to tell us what's it really like

1021
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 2: at the Olympics.

1022
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially this year.

1023
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 2: What is it really like at the Olympics this year

1024
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 2: to be there, to be in the village.

1025
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 3: Give us the lowdown.

1026
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just I would say that I'm grateful that

1027
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: I have been able to experience what Olympics is with

1028
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: like bands and family there and because it was just

1029
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: much different.

1030
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 4: But it was.

1031
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: Ultimately grateful that they were able to pull it off

1032
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: and that we got to participate and that it actually happened.

1033
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: I think that's that was that was awesome. But the

1034
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: I mean, the village is always cool. You're around other

1035
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 1: athletes that are at the highest of their their sport,

1036
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: and we don't get to see that a lot, like

1037
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: everyday training we're just folly ball only, and so seeing

1038
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: that is really cool and seeing and being able to

1039
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: watch other sports.

1040
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 4: We actually didn't get to go to any of the sports,

1041
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 4: which was weird.

1042
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, we're all in the village together and we're

1043
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: far away in an event, like why can't we go watch?

1044
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: Like doesn't make sense, so but we get watched on TV.

1045
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: And so there's just like this camaraderie like with Team USA.

1046
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,959
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know, it's it's something something indescribable

1047
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: and really cool.

1048
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 3: What athlete were you the most starstruck to meet?

1049
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 4: Oh? I don't know.

1050
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: I would probably say like Alison Felix, probably like she

1051
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: she was, I know, she was on our bus too.

1052
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: So it's really cool about the Olympics is that USA

1053
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: has like a high performance training center.

1054
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 4: So if most.

1055
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: Delegations have their own performance their own training center, because

1056
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: otherwise you're at the mercy of the Olympic Committee to

1057
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: like organize stuff for you and sometimes it's not on

1058
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: the timeframe that you want. So we're lucky that our

1059
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: delegation is so big that we have our own facilities.

1060
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: So she was actually on the bus to go to

1061
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: the high Performance training center with us. But I mean,

1062
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: you know, you just you want them to like have

1063
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: their space and like, you know, act like.

1064
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 4: You're part you're like part of it. I mean, I

1065
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 4: mean you are.

1066
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 1: But it's like we're very different levels, you know, so

1067
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: you know, we're all just like too scared, but like,

1068
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: but who is it? Who that is? And yeah it

1069
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:35,760
Speaker 1: was it was cool.

1070
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 2: You know It's crazy though, like if you for a

1071
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 2: second take a step out of your body and understand

1072
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,760
Speaker 2: that you know, you have over one hundred thousand people

1073
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 2: that follow you on social media, many of those like

1074
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 2: young women who look up to you and your journey,

1075
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 2: and if they had the chance to be sat on

1076
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 2: a bus for a drive that takes too long, however long,

1077
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 2: they would feel like the exact same way. Like what

1078
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 2: do you you feel in these moments when you realize

1079
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: that you are also someone not only of influence, but

1080
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 2: that has the opportunity now through your platform, to inspire

1081
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 2: so many Yeah.

1082
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 4: For sure.

1083
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 1: I it just makes me so much like so grateful,

1084
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:19,720
Speaker 1: and I think it's I think it's not funny because

1085
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: that's not a great word to describe it, but just

1086
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 1: like I feel just so much like I'm just Jordan,

1087
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm not Jordan Larsen VLL. I'm just

1088
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: like a normal person and so like I love having

1089
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: those conversations with people because I just think, hey, I

1090
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: was in especially young girls and like I was in

1091
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: your shoes at one point, like there, if you have

1092
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: a dream, like, go for it, like you just never know,

1093
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 1: and if you're willing to put in the time and effort,

1094
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: like it could pay off, and if you if you

1095
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: really work hard at it, like you could be sitting

1096
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Speaker 1: here today too, Like I never thought that I at

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Speaker 1: the capacity that I yeah, okay, I wanted those things,

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Speaker 1: but gosh, to see where it's all come, Like, there's

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Speaker 1: no way I couldn't have even dreamed about it.

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Speaker 2: What was more intimidating walking out onto the floor for

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00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 2: the gold medal match or walking out to throw out

1102
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 2: the first pitch at the Dodgers game.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if either.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I think I'm like at the point in my

1105
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: career where I'm just like, whatever happens to happens, you know,

1106
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: like if you do, you know, if you mess up,

1107
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: you mess up, and it's like is what it is.

1108
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: But I will tell you something that's kind of cool,

1109
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: not kind of cool, but just I can't believe that

1110
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 1: I was kind of a mess before the gold medal match.

1111
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: I'm not an emotional person. I don't cry often. It

1112
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 1: takes a lot for me to get emotional, and I

1113
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: think I cried more twenty four hours leading up to

1114
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: the gold medal match than I think I have in.

1115
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Speaker 4: My entire career. I was standing in the shower, I think,

1116
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 4: just crying.

1117
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: I look over at my teammate for Luca, who has

1118
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: been my really good frien and for all the years

1119
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: I've been on the national team, knowing that it's my

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Speaker 1: last to play with her, probably my last in the

1121
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Speaker 1: USA uniform, and I just were riding into the gym

1122
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 1: and I just I lose it and I'm like crying,

1123
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 1: and Fluca's looking on me. She's like, what are you doing.

1124
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Speaker 1: We're about to go play this match, like get you,

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Speaker 1: get your stuff together, and I'm just like, I don't

1126
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: know what's happened to me.

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Speaker 4: I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: I just I think the weight of it, the I

1129
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: just I couldn't keep it together, and it was it

1130
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: was so surreal, so so crazy to me because I'm

1131
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:37,240
Speaker 1: just not that kind of person.

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Speaker 4: Ever.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's mostly just the culmination of, like

1134
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 2: we said, twenty two years of volleyball. I mean, this

1135
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 2: was the one thing that you hadn't checked off yet.

1136
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 2: The gold medal was the thing that you had to

1137
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 2: check off on the Olympic stage.

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00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, for sure.

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Speaker 1: And then I think it was just like I wanted

1140
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: it so bad right Like it was just like, oh

1141
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: if I if I could get that, and like and

1142
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: to feel how I was feeling going into the Olympics,

1143
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: like I didn't. I wasn't feeling super confident. I was

1144
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: doubting a lot of things.

1145
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,280
Speaker 4: I was like all.

1146
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: These things, like because I knew it was like this

1147
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: is it, this is my last shot and it has

1148
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: to be this way and you know it has to

1149
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: be perfect.

1150
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 4: And to like let go of that and like to

1151
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 4: actually be in a spot where I had a shot,

1152
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 4: It's like, WHOA.

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00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 2: Why did you feel like you were doubting yourself leading

1154
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 2: up to it.

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Speaker 1: I So the one thing in volleyball that I'm probably

1156
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: known most for is my ability to pass the ball.

1157
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 1: And that my team was just serving me a lot

1158
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: and I don't really see a lot of serves often,

1159
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: and I was not holding up very well. I was shanking,

1160
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 1: I was just not doing well for our team. And

1161
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: I was chosen to play and start for our team,

1162
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: and I was just like, man, I had better get

1163
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: my stuff together because this can't show up at the Olympics,

1164
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: and so I was really just nervous for that. I

1165
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: was nervous that I had to be this like perfect,

1166
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: you know, I had to kill every ball, I have

1167
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: to do X, Y and Z, and it's just like

1168
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: I got I had to get out of that headspace.

1169
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: But I like kept going into that headspace and I'm

1170
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: like why, why, why is this happening? And so I

1171
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: just because I had really never felt that way before

1172
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: and it was concerning to me a little bit.

1173
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Speaker 2: Twenty two years of volleyball three Olympics. When you reflect

1174
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 2: on this time period, what would you say one of

1175
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 2: your greatest takeaways has been trust.

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00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: In the work that I have put in. I've done

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Speaker 1: it every day, and I think that's where ultimately I

1178
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: settled going into Olympics. Like Jordan, why are you doubting yourself?

1179
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: Like you've done this every day of your life and

1180
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: to almost every day to the best of your ability,

1181
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: So like you're you're ready, You're ready for this moment,

1182
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: You're ready for this time, and to know that with

1183
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: everything that ipproach in life, like if I put in

1184
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: the time and dedication that I've done and dedicated to

1185
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: the sport, like it's going to be okay, And I'm

1186
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: just just so.

1187
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 3: Grateful trusting in the training.

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00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 2: I mean, that's something that I hear a lot as

1189
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: an avid runner and a marathon or I mean, you

1190
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 2: go through in my case, three months plus of training

1191
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 2: to lead up to one day. In your case, I

1192
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 2: mean months and years of training to get to this

1193
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 2: world stage.

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00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 3: It's a lot of pressure on that final day.

1195
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 2: But I think you and I can both agree that

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00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 2: if you base the success of that entire journey on

1197
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 2: this one moment, then maybe you're not interpreting the value

1198
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 2: of the journey as to what it really is.

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Speaker 1: Very well said, I think I had to also get

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00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: to that point at this Olympics. Hey, if I don't

1201
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: perform as I want or how I feel like this

1202
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: should at, the outcome should be Am I going to

1203
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: be okay?

1204
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 4: And the question is the answer is yes.

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00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: Like it's like you said, if you feel like you've

1206
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: done everything you can, you've prepared yourself and it doesn't

1207
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: turn how it out, it's a learning experience. You take

1208
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: something from it, you learn from it, you move on,

1209
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: and that's what it is you set it to perfect example.

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00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 2: It's so interesting too because in reflecting just now, it

1211
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 2: sounded very much like the lessons that you learned when

1212
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,919
Speaker 2: you split from your ex husband, right, Yeah, you had

1213
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 2: to get to a point where you weren't angry with

1214
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 2: yourself about maybe things not going the way that the

1215
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 2: storybook would go, right, And that's not easy.

1216
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 4: No, definitely not. Yeah.

1217
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: Nobody like nobody gets married hoping that they get divorced,

1218
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: like nobody wants that, right, it's not, you know, And

1219
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: nobody puts in the time. They want to be successful

1220
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: at what they do and fail, you know. Nobody wants that.

1221
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: They want the Cinderella story, you know. But sometimes it

1222
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: doesn't end up like that. But I still think there's

1223
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: lessons to be learned and things to get better at,

1224
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 1: and time to put in to make it worth it,

1225
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: because it really is.

1226
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 3: And yes, it really is.

1227
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 2: So I referenced to four having over one hundred thousand

1228
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 2: people following me on social media. Let me correct myself.

1229
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 2: We're at one hundred and thirty nine thousand and growing.

1230
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 3: Right now. Someone comes to your.

1231
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 2: Page, they see a newly married American volleyball player, a

1232
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 2: Nike athlete, a three time Olympic medalist. You look in

1233
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 2: the mirror what is it that you see looking back

1234
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 2: at you?

1235
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 4: Oh?

1236
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: Wow, you you asked such great questions, and I want

1237
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: to ask you questions. I love getting to know why

1238
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: you podcasts.

1239
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:39,919
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, all right, right.

1240
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: I see a young girl that just was willing to

1241
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: do whatever it took and trusted the process and trusted

1242
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: the work ethic, and trusted those around her to be

1243
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: sitting in this chair today and to have a pretty

1244
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: cool journey.

1245
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 2: Something we didn't touch on yet is that you were

1246
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 2: the captain of the team for you, beyond the title.

1247
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 3: What does that really mean?

1248
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: I think, like you said to me, it was just

1249
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,919
Speaker 1: always a title. Like I always try to be really

1250
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 1: authentic to who I was, and I think the older

1251
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 1: I got in my career, I had to learn to

1252
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: be more of a vocal leader. I think in the past,

1253
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 1: I was always more of a leader by action, my

1254
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,439
Speaker 1: work ethic, how I showed up to the gym, how

1255
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: I got after and practice, how I did X, Y

1256
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: and Z. But as I've gotten older, I've had to

1257
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: learn of how do I get to know my teammates

1258
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: and understand what makes them the best version of themselves

1259
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: and how can I adapt to them to make to

1260
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: get the best out of them, and that's getting to

1261
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: know them off the court and.

1262
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 4: Building that part of it.

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01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: And so I've really tried to expand that captainship and

1264
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 1: that leadership role. But ultimately, like you said, it is

1265
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: just a title. But I've just tried to be authentic

1266
01:01:59,200 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: to who I am.

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Speaker 2: It's so interesting because I'm about to do something that

1268
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 2: I've never done because you expressed interest in doing this,

1269
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,959
Speaker 2: So I'm going to allow you the opportunity to ask

1270
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 2: me a question. But in doing this, I also understand

1271
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 2: that you've been kind of like flying by the seat

1272
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 2: of your pants answering all my questions for the last

1273
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 2: hour or so.

1274
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 3: I feel like there's a lot of pressure with me

1275
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 3: handing you like your own microphone.

1276
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 2: So I'm just I'm gonna take a seat back for

1277
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 2: a second, and I'm gonna let you ask me something.

1278
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: I think that's sometimes where I not struggle with podcasts

1279
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: because I love them and I think they're so great

1280
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: and I love having the cop but I think it

1281
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 1: should be more of a conversation, right and it is,

1282
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: But like, why are you getting into this space of

1283
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: being a podcast and why do you want to continue

1284
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 1: to to kind of navigate through this space and what

1285
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: got you you tobe this point.

1286
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 2: Like, Okay, well this would be a whole lot of

1287
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 2: sixty minute episode yea. For more context, Jordan, I'll send

1288
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 2: you episode one of the show. But what I will

1289
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 2: say is you asked me, like, why do I keep going?

1290
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 3: So to speak?

1291
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 2: And I think that as someone who has made it

1292
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 2: her mission to like help people in community and empower

1293
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 2: them on their journeys to feel less alone, I keep

1294
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 2: going because I know what it feels like to feel alone.

1295
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 2: I back in college, had my own fair share of

1296
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 2: struggles and felt.

1297
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 3: Really lonely on my journey to learning who I was.

1298
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:28,959
Speaker 2: I waited a lot more at the time and felt really.

1299
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 3: Just beside myself because I didn't feel at home in

1300
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 3: my body.

1301
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 2: And so for me to now be in a place

1302
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 2: where I've defined what healthy looks like for me, and

1303
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 2: that includes pizza Friday, and it also includes running marathons

1304
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 2: when I'm off the injured list, I know that the

1305
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 2: power in that, and I know how great it is

1306
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 2: to get to a place where you feel confident in

1307
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 2: knowing what balance looks like for you. And I know

1308
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 2: that I have the opportunity through these conversations with women

1309
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 2: like yourself to help people figure out how to do that,

1310
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 2: how to do that too. And so I take a

1311
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 2: lot of joy in that, and I take a lot

1312
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 2: of pride in that, and I think about the things

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Speaker 2: that I like to do most in my life, and

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Speaker 2: I'm so lucky, beyond lucky, and so grateful that having

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Speaker 2: these conversations is something that I can do for work too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, that's amazing.

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Speaker 1: And like I think you asked me a couple of

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Speaker 1: times what got me out of that space? And what

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Speaker 1: do you feel like has gotten you the most out

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Speaker 1: of that space? And like to get you to like

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Speaker 1: you said to this point, like is it journaling?

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Speaker 4: Is it?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 4: How how did you?

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Speaker 2: I think something that I have done but maybe have

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Speaker 2: gotten even better at doing is in my journey of

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Speaker 2: independence and coming into my home and feeling really confident

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Speaker 2: by myself. I've also learned the importance of asking for help.

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01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 2: And I think so many of us feel as though

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01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 2: maybe we're doing something wrong when we look for outside

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01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 2: guidance or we feel as though we're messing up. When

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Speaker 2: you reach out to a friend and you're like, hey,

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01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 2: I kind of need you right now, because so many

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Speaker 2: of us don't want to feel like it's an inconvenience, right,

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01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 2: And so for me, what helps me on my mission

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Speaker 2: to help other people is being okay with asking for

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Speaker 2: help and knowing that that doesn't make me any lesser

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01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 2: than And that doesn't mean that I'm not okay on

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01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 2: my own. It just means that, like I need support,

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01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 2: and the fact is is that we all need support.

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01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 2: I mean, of course the things that we mentioned, like journaling.

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01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 2: Journaling is a huge tool for me, but sometimes you

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01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 2: just need a little bit more, and it's okay to

1344
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 2: need more. It's okay to want more, and to remove

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01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 2: that judgment from that space, like it changes absolutely everything.

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Speaker 2: I did want to ask you before I ask you

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01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 2: the final question you mentioned right now, navigating a little

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01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 2: bit of an achilles situation.

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Speaker 3: Can you talk to me a little bit about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So kind of when I came started this summer,

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01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 1: I was just having like a little bit of Achilles pain,

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01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: Like I didn't know what it was. Like I thought

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01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: it was tape because I tape my ankles every day,

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01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 1: but it just wasn't going away, and so we had

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01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: to like change my taping and then I still was

1356
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 1: having some issues and starting some antim inmplammatories and that

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01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: seemed to help.

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01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 4: But I still I kind of have a bump on

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01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 4: the back of my achilles.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what it's from, but every time I

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01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 1: go to like really extend or push off of it,

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01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 1: it's just super tender. So I met with the trainer

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Speaker 1: and she's like, knowing your age and just kind of

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 4: Like, my age, Oh my god, I'm so young.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, so I just I actually got an

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Speaker 1: MRIA yesterday just to make sure that we have the

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Speaker 1: proper treatment plan, and I kind of that in place,

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01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 1: but I don't know the results yet, so I'm waiting

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Speaker 1: on that.

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Speaker 4: I know, I know anticipation, but oh.

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Speaker 3: My god, you'll have to fill me in.

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01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 1: Honestly, I think it's just like we're and tear over.

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01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: Like I think, just yeah, dumping a lot, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I have my.

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Speaker 2: God, the body is like such a thing. It's such

1377
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 2: a beautiful thing. It can also be such like a

1378
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 2: scary thing. We want all of the answers, we have

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01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 2: none of the answers. I get it.

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Speaker 3: I sympathize, all right, all right.

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01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 2: Last question here, Okay, right, now, you have an opportunity

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01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 2: to offer the Jordan going through her divorce trying to

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01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 2: navigate living somewhere unfamiliar, a piece of advice looking back

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01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 2: on that hurdle moment right now, what do you tell her.

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Speaker 4: Piece of advice? I think just continuing to stay.

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01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 1: I keep saying that present like as much as like

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01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 1: wake up in the morning, enjoy breakfast, enjoy lunch, enjoy

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01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 1: coffee in the afternoon, like you said, asking for help,

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01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 1: just being okay and almost sitting in it, like that's

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01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: that phrase sounds so weird, but like sitting in those

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01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 1: feelings and like unpacked what's really going on, because that's

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01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 1: when you're going to get to the root of it.

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01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 1: But I think it takes time and it's not going

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01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 1: to happen overnight. And but knowing on the other end

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01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,600
Speaker 1: of it again like it's going to all work out.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 2: Two things that someone said to me once, one was

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Speaker 2: be where your feet are. And the second thing that

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Speaker 2: I always think about when I feel like I'm getting

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01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,600
Speaker 2: a little worked up and I'm having trouble staying in

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Speaker 2: the moment is come back to calm amen. I always,

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01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 2: I always, always, always try to come back to calm. Jordan,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time and your takeaways.

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Speaker 2: How do the hurdlers keep up with you? How do

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01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 2: they fall along with you? Give us all the details.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, thanks thanks for having me on. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: My Instagram handle is gov ten zero seven random. Yeah,

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01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 1: so my nickname is called the Governor because my best

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Speaker 1: friend Feluca, we were in Taile. This is kind of

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Speaker 1: a long story in Thailand. There's a Nebraska fan there.

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01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: She's like, the guy's like, I know your dad, and

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01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: Luca's like seriously, and they're Husker fans everywhere, and so

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Speaker 1: she told her brother and her brother is like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean she's like the Governor. So then I said

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Speaker 1: it as a joke and now it's just become a thing.

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01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 1: So that's theme part of the brand, so that they

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Speaker 1: call me gov. And then that's kind of the rest

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Speaker 1: of history. And then I am on Facebook. Still I

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01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 1: don't think Facebook's a thing much anymore. And then I

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Speaker 1: have Twitter as well. Jordan Larcenton is my Twitter handle,

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Speaker 1: so love it.

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Speaker 2: I'm over at MLA Body and at Hurdle Podcast Another

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Speaker 2: Hurdle Conquered.

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Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.