1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:21,548 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:22,308 --> 00:00:26,108 Speaker 2: Good Morning Football. That's right, this is Good Morning Football. 4 00:00:26,108 --> 00:00:28,188 Speaker 3: We have brought to you by Old Trapper Beef Turkey, 5 00:00:28,228 --> 00:00:31,148 Speaker 3: Live in LA, Live in New York, Live today, Tuesday, 6 00:00:31,148 --> 00:00:33,668 Speaker 3: December seventeenth. This is Akbar Basja Bam, Mellip, Peter Stregger, 7 00:00:33,708 --> 00:00:35,628 Speaker 3: Kyle Brant, Isaiah stand back. I'm Jamie Erta. 8 00:00:35,668 --> 00:00:36,628 Speaker 2: I have to talked very fast. 9 00:00:36,708 --> 00:00:37,828 Speaker 4: Okay, what because we have. 10 00:00:37,708 --> 00:00:39,348 Speaker 3: So many guests this hour, we have a lot of 11 00:00:39,388 --> 00:00:42,388 Speaker 3: business to get to on GMFB. An old friend of 12 00:00:42,428 --> 00:00:47,628 Speaker 3: the show, Taylor Watner, the actor turned media mogul, coming 13 00:00:47,708 --> 00:00:50,668 Speaker 3: on the show to talk about his Lions. Everything coming up. 14 00:00:50,788 --> 00:00:53,548 Speaker 3: NFC North two games on Monday Night Football last night. 15 00:00:53,828 --> 00:00:55,828 Speaker 3: Let's get to both highlights and we will talk about 16 00:00:55,828 --> 00:00:58,388 Speaker 3: the North, shall we we shall? 17 00:00:58,508 --> 00:01:01,508 Speaker 2: Here we go. Look, Falcons Raiders. 18 00:01:01,388 --> 00:01:04,388 Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins, formerly of the NFC North any fix things. 19 00:01:04,388 --> 00:01:06,028 Speaker 3: There hadn't been a great stretch for him in the 20 00:01:06,188 --> 00:01:07,028 Speaker 3: pick department. 21 00:01:07,348 --> 00:01:08,788 Speaker 2: This is a pretty fair start. 22 00:01:08,908 --> 00:01:11,908 Speaker 3: Falcons Raiders Monday Night Football to touchdown to Drake London 23 00:01:11,948 --> 00:01:15,068 Speaker 3: thirty yard TV Falcom take a seven nothing Lait Falcons 24 00:01:15,108 --> 00:01:16,468 Speaker 3: win fifteen to nine. 25 00:01:16,868 --> 00:01:18,668 Speaker 2: Still was kind of a strange game though. 26 00:01:18,628 --> 00:01:25,748 Speaker 5: The Falcons plus another one last night Bears Vikings. So 27 00:01:25,828 --> 00:01:27,708 Speaker 5: the Vikings at these really cool all white jerseys. 28 00:01:27,748 --> 00:01:28,708 Speaker 2: Jefferson's fired up. 29 00:01:28,668 --> 00:01:31,788 Speaker 5: For more reasons than one. Randy Moss is going through 30 00:01:31,828 --> 00:01:33,308 Speaker 5: to these things right now. You've probably read about it. 31 00:01:33,308 --> 00:01:35,188 Speaker 5: He stepped away from his broadcasting job. And that is 32 00:01:35,268 --> 00:01:37,388 Speaker 5: Jake Reid on the left and Chris Carter on the 33 00:01:37,428 --> 00:01:39,988 Speaker 5: right holding up his jersey. And then it was just 34 00:01:40,028 --> 00:01:43,028 Speaker 5: absolutely perfect. Darnold just sits back there finds Jefferson. He 35 00:01:43,068 --> 00:01:44,748 Speaker 5: was going to score a touchdown last night no matter 36 00:01:44,788 --> 00:01:45,308 Speaker 5: what he had to do. 37 00:01:45,348 --> 00:01:48,908 Speaker 2: It's pretty easy. And then take a listen to this ready. 38 00:01:53,388 --> 00:01:54,228 Speaker 2: I think it's cool as. 39 00:01:54,148 --> 00:01:56,508 Speaker 5: The Jefferson gets the Randy Moss comparisons all the time, 40 00:01:56,548 --> 00:02:00,268 Speaker 5: style wise, statistically, when apparently they have a very good relationship, 41 00:02:00,268 --> 00:02:02,148 Speaker 5: and he's reached out to Randy since he came in 42 00:02:02,148 --> 00:02:05,388 Speaker 5: the league, and especially now earlier to start the show. 43 00:02:05,388 --> 00:02:06,908 Speaker 5: I have good news for the Bears. There's only three 44 00:02:06,908 --> 00:02:09,228 Speaker 5: games left. You can get through these three games, and honestly, 45 00:02:09,908 --> 00:02:12,188 Speaker 5: are we gonna see Tyson Bagent at some point? 46 00:02:12,268 --> 00:02:13,748 Speaker 2: You just take Caleb off the field. 47 00:02:14,068 --> 00:02:16,188 Speaker 5: He gets sacked more than anybody in the league. He 48 00:02:16,228 --> 00:02:18,508 Speaker 5: gets hit more than anybody in the league. He's played 49 00:02:18,508 --> 00:02:20,908 Speaker 5: all season, he's proven out tough he is. I just 50 00:02:20,948 --> 00:02:22,788 Speaker 5: don't know at this point. Maybe you try to protect 51 00:02:22,868 --> 00:02:24,468 Speaker 5: him a little bit. I thought Aikman was very good 52 00:02:24,548 --> 00:02:27,348 Speaker 5: last night recalling his rookie season, which he was zero 53 00:02:27,348 --> 00:02:27,828 Speaker 5: to eleven. 54 00:02:28,068 --> 00:02:31,028 Speaker 6: We're showing those all twenty twos though, no anticipation from Caleb. 55 00:02:31,148 --> 00:02:33,148 Speaker 6: Oh that's three different times, like just to not seeing 56 00:02:33,148 --> 00:02:34,028 Speaker 6: receivers wide open. 57 00:02:34,228 --> 00:02:36,868 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not playing well. He's second guessing himself. 58 00:02:36,988 --> 00:02:38,508 Speaker 5: He peaked in the middle of the season, and I 59 00:02:38,548 --> 00:02:40,108 Speaker 5: don't know if it serves him best to have him 60 00:02:40,108 --> 00:02:41,788 Speaker 5: out there every single week now with this team and 61 00:02:41,788 --> 00:02:42,588 Speaker 5: where his head's at. 62 00:02:43,108 --> 00:02:45,508 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the Vikings are twelve and two. Enough about the Bears. 63 00:02:45,548 --> 00:02:49,348 Speaker 5: They looked easy, they looked fast, and they looked comfortable 64 00:02:49,668 --> 00:02:53,988 Speaker 5: thirty to twelve. Afterwards, our guy Tom Pelasero caught up 65 00:02:53,988 --> 00:02:55,708 Speaker 5: with the aforementioned Aaron Jones. 66 00:02:57,308 --> 00:02:58,428 Speaker 4: The Lions finally lost. 67 00:02:58,508 --> 00:03:01,748 Speaker 5: You guys, now control your destiny to win this division, 68 00:03:01,788 --> 00:03:03,188 Speaker 5: potentially be the number one seed. 69 00:03:03,468 --> 00:03:06,428 Speaker 2: How do you keep this? Only capture the momentum. 70 00:03:06,188 --> 00:03:08,588 Speaker 4: Make it all about us is take. 71 00:03:08,468 --> 00:03:10,428 Speaker 1: You one day at a TOM, one game at a TOM, 72 00:03:10,588 --> 00:03:12,148 Speaker 1: and that's what we've been doing to get here. 73 00:03:12,308 --> 00:03:13,748 Speaker 4: So continue to do with things that's. 74 00:03:13,588 --> 00:03:14,308 Speaker 2: Gotten us here. 75 00:03:14,788 --> 00:03:18,148 Speaker 4: But importantly is one game at a TOM and well, 76 00:03:18,428 --> 00:03:19,988 Speaker 4: what is there three left at the end. 77 00:03:19,908 --> 00:03:20,468 Speaker 7: Of those three? 78 00:03:20,628 --> 00:03:22,068 Speaker 1: Taking a one game out of time, we'll see where 79 00:03:22,068 --> 00:03:22,388 Speaker 1: we're at. 80 00:03:24,468 --> 00:03:27,468 Speaker 3: We're really starting to hone in on the teams at 81 00:03:27,508 --> 00:03:30,308 Speaker 3: the top of both the AFC and NFCS. However, there 82 00:03:30,308 --> 00:03:32,668 Speaker 3: are some lower body injuries to some of the stars 83 00:03:32,668 --> 00:03:34,548 Speaker 3: on those teams in that we have to pay attention to. 84 00:03:35,868 --> 00:03:38,828 Speaker 8: What We'll start with maybe the biggest star, Patrick Mahomes, 85 00:03:38,828 --> 00:03:42,028 Speaker 8: went down with an injury on Sunday, kind of scary injury. 86 00:03:42,068 --> 00:03:45,348 Speaker 8: Got crunched top bottom, all sorts of ways, got basically 87 00:03:45,388 --> 00:03:48,828 Speaker 8: bent in half, goes to the sideline. Carson Wentz finished 88 00:03:48,828 --> 00:03:51,348 Speaker 8: out the game, which is certainly not something Chiefs fans 89 00:03:51,348 --> 00:03:53,868 Speaker 8: want to see. At a battery of test sores to say, 90 00:03:53,988 --> 00:03:56,908 Speaker 8: the tests confirmed that is a high ankle spring for 91 00:03:57,028 --> 00:03:57,908 Speaker 8: Patrick Mahomes. 92 00:03:57,908 --> 00:03:59,348 Speaker 2: This brings me back a couple. 93 00:03:59,148 --> 00:04:02,748 Speaker 8: Of years to the Jaguars playoff game. Patrick Mahomes got 94 00:04:02,748 --> 00:04:05,028 Speaker 8: a ankle spray and I think everyone is soom. This 95 00:04:05,148 --> 00:04:07,748 Speaker 8: was very bad news for Kansas City. He did intense 96 00:04:07,788 --> 00:04:08,828 Speaker 8: rehab and then. 97 00:04:08,748 --> 00:04:09,748 Speaker 4: He played the next week. 98 00:04:09,828 --> 00:04:12,348 Speaker 8: This seems to be to be somewhat similar of an 99 00:04:12,388 --> 00:04:14,588 Speaker 8: injury described to me as week to week. So there 100 00:04:14,748 --> 00:04:17,268 Speaker 8: is a possibility because it's not the playoffs that he 101 00:04:17,348 --> 00:04:21,028 Speaker 8: misses this week, the Saturday game and that Carson Wentz plays. 102 00:04:21,028 --> 00:04:23,948 Speaker 8: But for the Christmas Day game, I would say from 103 00:04:23,948 --> 00:04:27,388 Speaker 8: my understanding, Patrick Mahomes has a pretty good chance. And 104 00:04:27,428 --> 00:04:30,548 Speaker 8: then there's David Montgomery, the Lions starting running back. This 105 00:04:30,628 --> 00:04:34,628 Speaker 8: update is not nearly as positive. David Montgomery is out 106 00:04:34,668 --> 00:04:38,588 Speaker 8: for this season. It is a torn MCL and other 107 00:04:38,668 --> 00:04:40,788 Speaker 8: damage in his knees. He's going to still undergo test, 108 00:04:40,828 --> 00:04:44,108 Speaker 8: still undergo some second opinions just to make sure exactly 109 00:04:44,148 --> 00:04:46,108 Speaker 8: what is in there. But he is expected to have 110 00:04:46,268 --> 00:04:48,788 Speaker 8: surgery surgery that will end his season. 111 00:04:49,308 --> 00:04:50,868 Speaker 2: So it is Jamier. 112 00:04:50,588 --> 00:04:53,508 Speaker 8: Gibbs as the starting running back going forward for the Lions. 113 00:04:53,828 --> 00:04:54,628 Speaker 2: That's the offense. 114 00:04:54,748 --> 00:04:57,388 Speaker 8: On defense, you guys know they've had a ton of 115 00:04:57,428 --> 00:04:58,708 Speaker 8: injuries decimated. 116 00:04:58,788 --> 00:05:01,148 Speaker 3: We hate that, Ian, Thank you so much. We'll talk 117 00:05:01,148 --> 00:05:03,188 Speaker 3: to you a little bit. Let's take a gander at 118 00:05:03,228 --> 00:05:06,548 Speaker 3: the NFC playoff pick, sure, Peter, walk us through the scenarios. 119 00:05:07,188 --> 00:05:09,668 Speaker 6: Yeah, we've got three teams now that are twelve and two. 120 00:05:09,828 --> 00:05:13,068 Speaker 6: The Lions currently hold the one seed because of tie breakers, 121 00:05:13,068 --> 00:05:15,908 Speaker 6: the Eagles of the two, the Vikings are the wild 122 00:05:15,988 --> 00:05:18,868 Speaker 6: card as the five now. Right now, if we were 123 00:05:18,868 --> 00:05:22,228 Speaker 6: to do the playoffs tomorrow, the Rams would actually host 124 00:05:22,268 --> 00:05:24,548 Speaker 6: the Vikings in a playoff game. They played earlier this 125 00:05:24,628 --> 00:05:26,868 Speaker 6: year on a Thursday night and the Rams won in LA. 126 00:05:27,868 --> 00:05:30,268 Speaker 6: The Packers are still looming, and of course you look 127 00:05:30,628 --> 00:05:33,028 Speaker 6: the Seahawks and the Cardinals still have a chance in 128 00:05:33,068 --> 00:05:35,388 Speaker 6: the NFC West says they all play each other in 129 00:05:35,428 --> 00:05:36,828 Speaker 6: the Rams over the last three weeks. 130 00:05:37,148 --> 00:05:38,948 Speaker 3: We take a lot of pride in that graphic. You 131 00:05:39,028 --> 00:05:41,668 Speaker 3: see the Lions taking up the most real estate. They 132 00:05:41,668 --> 00:05:45,148 Speaker 3: have the first round by in the playoffs right now 133 00:05:45,268 --> 00:05:48,628 Speaker 3: at twelve and two. But the question becomes with the 134 00:05:48,668 --> 00:05:50,868 Speaker 3: Lion the twelve and two, the Eagle twelve and two, 135 00:05:50,948 --> 00:05:54,508 Speaker 3: the Vikings twelve and two. Peter, do you still consider 136 00:05:54,548 --> 00:05:56,388 Speaker 3: the Lions the lead dogs in the NFC? 137 00:05:57,628 --> 00:06:00,068 Speaker 2: I do, Yeah, I do, I do. 138 00:06:00,388 --> 00:06:00,628 Speaker 9: I know. 139 00:06:00,708 --> 00:06:03,348 Speaker 6: We want to project and expect teams to fall apart 140 00:06:03,428 --> 00:06:06,068 Speaker 6: due to injury and I understand David Montgomery is big, 141 00:06:06,348 --> 00:06:09,108 Speaker 6: but we all got off the bus with the Lions 142 00:06:09,308 --> 00:06:11,308 Speaker 6: when Aden Hutchinson went down. So they have to do 143 00:06:11,348 --> 00:06:13,628 Speaker 6: these drastic things on defense, and they have been a 144 00:06:13,628 --> 00:06:17,708 Speaker 6: steamroller ever since. I think this team in Detroit has 145 00:06:17,748 --> 00:06:21,188 Speaker 6: what it takes to overcome individual injuries. The question is, 146 00:06:21,188 --> 00:06:24,268 Speaker 6: is this cascade of them fourteen guys on the defense 147 00:06:24,308 --> 00:06:26,788 Speaker 6: and Aleen McNeil, who's such a star player, is that 148 00:06:26,948 --> 00:06:27,508 Speaker 6: too much. 149 00:06:28,028 --> 00:06:31,428 Speaker 2: The team that really really has surprised. 150 00:06:30,868 --> 00:06:33,668 Speaker 6: Me, though, is that Minnesota Viking squad that we saw 151 00:06:33,748 --> 00:06:34,988 Speaker 6: last night, Because they're. 152 00:06:34,788 --> 00:06:38,188 Speaker 2: Doing it so under the radar. They're twelve and two. 153 00:06:38,748 --> 00:06:41,508 Speaker 6: Their only losses came to obviously the Lions in a 154 00:06:41,588 --> 00:06:44,348 Speaker 6: heartbreaking fashion at the end, and then of course on 155 00:06:44,388 --> 00:06:47,548 Speaker 6: a short week to the Rams. The Vikings are twelve 156 00:06:47,588 --> 00:06:53,188 Speaker 6: and two with no fanfare, no discussion of real like this. 157 00:06:53,188 --> 00:06:54,508 Speaker 2: Team can actually do something. 158 00:06:54,948 --> 00:06:57,748 Speaker 6: If anything, we're talking about the Vikings like, well, let's 159 00:06:57,828 --> 00:06:59,788 Speaker 6: just wait until we see what happens with these last 160 00:06:59,828 --> 00:07:00,388 Speaker 6: three games. 161 00:07:00,468 --> 00:07:02,108 Speaker 2: But what if they win these last three games. If 162 00:07:02,148 --> 00:07:03,428 Speaker 2: they win these last. 163 00:07:03,148 --> 00:07:07,748 Speaker 6: Three games, the Vikings are actually hosting every. 164 00:07:07,428 --> 00:07:09,188 Speaker 2: Game in the NFC playoffs, and we'll. 165 00:07:09,108 --> 00:07:09,628 Speaker 4: Have a buye. 166 00:07:10,388 --> 00:07:12,908 Speaker 6: And if I'm looking at the Packers, they've got two 167 00:07:12,908 --> 00:07:15,268 Speaker 6: more losses. And if I'm looking at the Lions, they 168 00:07:15,308 --> 00:07:17,748 Speaker 6: are all banged up and they might be looking to 169 00:07:17,828 --> 00:07:19,868 Speaker 6: rec players or they might not be good enough with 170 00:07:19,908 --> 00:07:22,748 Speaker 6: all those injuries. Those are not games that I look 171 00:07:22,748 --> 00:07:26,228 Speaker 6: at as instant losses for the Vikings. So I'm going 172 00:07:26,308 --> 00:07:30,788 Speaker 6: to say three things here as I have the entire amount. 173 00:07:31,188 --> 00:07:33,068 Speaker 6: The Packers are my super Bowl pick, so I'm not 174 00:07:33,108 --> 00:07:34,988 Speaker 6: giving up on them at all, and they look really good. 175 00:07:35,508 --> 00:07:37,348 Speaker 6: The Lions are the number one seed and I'm not 176 00:07:37,388 --> 00:07:39,108 Speaker 6: giving up on them until they start losing because of 177 00:07:39,108 --> 00:07:41,468 Speaker 6: these injuries. And the Vikings are that team that I'm 178 00:07:41,468 --> 00:07:45,748 Speaker 6: watching with sidey like, I don't really know, but I'm 179 00:07:45,828 --> 00:07:48,268 Speaker 6: beginning to believe even if they are twelve and two, 180 00:07:48,268 --> 00:07:49,948 Speaker 6: and I should have been believers months ago. 181 00:07:50,348 --> 00:07:53,108 Speaker 4: Peter, this one is very difficult, and I can see 182 00:07:53,108 --> 00:07:55,868 Speaker 4: why you're kind of in this position as well. I'm 183 00:07:55,868 --> 00:07:58,428 Speaker 4: not giving up on the Detroit Lions. They're also they 184 00:07:58,428 --> 00:08:00,108 Speaker 4: were my pick to go all the way to the 185 00:08:00,108 --> 00:08:02,668 Speaker 4: Super Bowl. But the question is are the Lions. Are 186 00:08:02,668 --> 00:08:05,268 Speaker 4: they the pride of the NFC. I don't think they 187 00:08:05,308 --> 00:08:07,108 Speaker 4: are the pride of the NFC, because I think the 188 00:08:07,108 --> 00:08:09,908 Speaker 4: injury is just way too much to overcome. That's a 189 00:08:09,988 --> 00:08:12,348 Speaker 4: lot of injuries. I saw it in that in the 190 00:08:12,388 --> 00:08:14,508 Speaker 4: Bills game, and I saw it where you saw Ty 191 00:08:14,868 --> 00:08:17,028 Speaker 4: Johnson being able to get out there mismatch with a 192 00:08:17,068 --> 00:08:19,468 Speaker 4: linebacker who just got there, and all of a sudden, 193 00:08:19,508 --> 00:08:21,348 Speaker 4: they're running routes on there. It's going to be very 194 00:08:21,388 --> 00:08:24,108 Speaker 4: easy for any offense to go out there and go, Okay, 195 00:08:24,108 --> 00:08:26,508 Speaker 4: hold on, we've got new personnel on here. Let's try 196 00:08:26,548 --> 00:08:28,868 Speaker 4: this wrinkle, and let's try that wrinkle and then be 197 00:08:28,948 --> 00:08:32,028 Speaker 4: able to create you know, real, real big plays. And 198 00:08:32,068 --> 00:08:34,508 Speaker 4: that's what we saw in this game against the against 199 00:08:34,508 --> 00:08:37,068 Speaker 4: the Buffalo Bills. I think, to me, the top team 200 00:08:37,228 --> 00:08:39,228 Speaker 4: and the pride of the NFC right now is the 201 00:08:39,228 --> 00:08:42,428 Speaker 4: Philadelphia Eagles. And the Philadelphia Eagles they look balanced, they 202 00:08:42,468 --> 00:08:44,948 Speaker 4: look strong, They got that strong defense, that's the number 203 00:08:44,948 --> 00:08:47,548 Speaker 4: one defense in the NFL, and they can straight out play. 204 00:08:47,588 --> 00:08:49,868 Speaker 4: And I think what they show too, in response to 205 00:08:50,268 --> 00:08:53,308 Speaker 4: the fact that AJ Brown was calling for it accountability. 206 00:08:53,308 --> 00:08:55,908 Speaker 4: That's what I'm gonna call it. Accountability. They go out 207 00:08:55,948 --> 00:08:59,308 Speaker 4: there and they show a well balanced offense, passing attack. 208 00:08:59,548 --> 00:09:02,988 Speaker 4: AJ getting off, Davonte Smith getting off. I got the 209 00:09:03,188 --> 00:09:06,148 Speaker 4: Philadelphia Eagles as the strong team and the pride of 210 00:09:06,188 --> 00:09:07,188 Speaker 4: the NFC right now. 211 00:09:08,228 --> 00:09:11,028 Speaker 9: I love the Lions. I love them a lot, but 212 00:09:11,148 --> 00:09:13,548 Speaker 9: I have to say that I do not believe that 213 00:09:13,588 --> 00:09:15,468 Speaker 9: they are the top dogs. That doesn't mean that I 214 00:09:15,988 --> 00:09:18,308 Speaker 9: don't believe that they're capable. I just think that the 215 00:09:18,428 --> 00:09:21,188 Speaker 9: injury bug has hit these guys in the mouth too 216 00:09:21,228 --> 00:09:21,868 Speaker 9: many times. 217 00:09:21,908 --> 00:09:23,348 Speaker 2: They take a look at this out here. 218 00:09:23,628 --> 00:09:26,708 Speaker 9: These guys have twenty two players on ir These are 219 00:09:26,748 --> 00:09:29,468 Speaker 9: the starters. These are the starters that are on there. Okay, 220 00:09:29,468 --> 00:09:31,708 Speaker 9: the look look at me. Names we have there. Aiden 221 00:09:31,788 --> 00:09:33,988 Speaker 9: hutch is saying, okay, you got Peco on there, you 222 00:09:34,068 --> 00:09:38,108 Speaker 9: got Davenport, you got Ends alone. You have all these 223 00:09:38,268 --> 00:09:42,108 Speaker 9: playmakers for these guys that are now missing. And coaching 224 00:09:42,788 --> 00:09:45,028 Speaker 9: is a great thing to have. But there's only so 225 00:09:45,228 --> 00:09:48,028 Speaker 9: much that a coaching can make up poor when you 226 00:09:48,068 --> 00:09:50,468 Speaker 9: start looking at so many guys that you are dependent 227 00:09:50,508 --> 00:09:52,588 Speaker 9: on to make plays for you and they're now gone. 228 00:09:52,668 --> 00:09:55,308 Speaker 9: Now you talking to start talking about the offense. David 229 00:09:55,308 --> 00:09:58,068 Speaker 9: Montgomery's aren't gone. So now that one two punch is 230 00:09:58,108 --> 00:10:00,668 Speaker 9: no longer there, Gibbs as fully capable as a starting 231 00:10:00,748 --> 00:10:03,028 Speaker 9: running back, But is it going to be as impactful 232 00:10:03,308 --> 00:10:05,468 Speaker 9: without him being pressed? You start talking about all the 233 00:10:05,468 --> 00:10:08,028 Speaker 9: defensive players that they're missing, dog gon't it. I'm not 234 00:10:08,028 --> 00:10:09,868 Speaker 9: sure how much Aaron Glen could coach in terms of 235 00:10:10,028 --> 00:10:14,268 Speaker 9: exposing these guys to potential potential big plays, because now 236 00:10:14,268 --> 00:10:16,828 Speaker 9: you're trying to list to some type of pressure by blitzing. 237 00:10:17,348 --> 00:10:20,068 Speaker 9: I like the Philadelphia Eagles because of the fact that 238 00:10:20,068 --> 00:10:20,708 Speaker 9: they are balanced. 239 00:10:20,708 --> 00:10:22,348 Speaker 4: I like the Philadelphia Eagles because. 240 00:10:22,108 --> 00:10:23,468 Speaker 2: Of the fact that they are healthier. 241 00:10:23,788 --> 00:10:26,228 Speaker 9: The Detroit Lions are gonna be competitive, and they're gonna fight, 242 00:10:26,268 --> 00:10:29,188 Speaker 9: and they're gonna bite your kneecaps. But enough is enough, 243 00:10:29,228 --> 00:10:30,348 Speaker 9: and I'm not sure that they're gonna be able to 244 00:10:30,348 --> 00:10:32,308 Speaker 9: hold that top spot, especially with the remaining schedule. 245 00:10:33,708 --> 00:10:36,508 Speaker 5: Head and heart for me, you know, heart says I 246 00:10:36,548 --> 00:10:38,268 Speaker 5: love the Lions in Campbell and I love golf and 247 00:10:38,308 --> 00:10:40,428 Speaker 5: what they represent. I mean, the head is like, these 248 00:10:40,468 --> 00:10:43,268 Speaker 5: are really two other good teams in the NFC. They're 249 00:10:43,268 --> 00:10:45,708 Speaker 5: fantastic teams and we're not even counting all the NFC 250 00:10:45,748 --> 00:10:47,828 Speaker 5: teams that can make some noise. The Bucks and just 251 00:10:47,868 --> 00:10:50,948 Speaker 5: I can go on and on. They give up seventy 252 00:10:51,028 --> 00:10:53,388 Speaker 5: nine points the last two games like that, that's not 253 00:10:53,508 --> 00:10:55,748 Speaker 5: how you win a super Bowl. And I understand, and 254 00:10:55,788 --> 00:10:57,548 Speaker 5: I like Detroit and they're proud and they're gonna get 255 00:10:57,588 --> 00:10:59,388 Speaker 5: up and they're gonna fight. And I was one of 256 00:10:59,468 --> 00:11:01,268 Speaker 5: those people saying, like, I don't know eight Nutchins and 257 00:11:01,308 --> 00:11:03,268 Speaker 5: I think is the second most important player and their 258 00:11:03,308 --> 00:11:05,828 Speaker 5: team after golf. They may be screwed. But they bring 259 00:11:05,828 --> 00:11:07,908 Speaker 5: in Zadarius Smith. I think that helps a little bit. 260 00:11:08,228 --> 00:11:11,668 Speaker 5: The Montgomery thing is massive, it's that's that's the fourth 261 00:11:11,668 --> 00:11:13,268 Speaker 5: in inches, guy, you give the ball to I like 262 00:11:13,348 --> 00:11:16,468 Speaker 5: Jamir Gibbs, it's sonic and knuckles like that was their thing. 263 00:11:16,548 --> 00:11:18,748 Speaker 5: There was their identity. It was he did this and 264 00:11:18,788 --> 00:11:22,348 Speaker 5: you did this. That's totally gone. The defense rough. How 265 00:11:22,348 --> 00:11:24,068 Speaker 5: can I sit here after what they just what I 266 00:11:24,108 --> 00:11:26,148 Speaker 5: just saw against the Bills, what I just saw against 267 00:11:26,148 --> 00:11:29,628 Speaker 5: green Bay. Even in say, yes, the super Bowl, it's 268 00:11:29,748 --> 00:11:33,788 Speaker 5: very difficult, especially since it's a question of expectations. Lions 269 00:11:33,788 --> 00:11:35,588 Speaker 5: get to the divisional round, they get to the title 270 00:11:35,588 --> 00:11:37,228 Speaker 5: game this year and lose the title game, it's a 271 00:11:37,308 --> 00:11:41,028 Speaker 5: huge disappointment. Huge that's the burden that they carry. But 272 00:11:41,108 --> 00:11:43,748 Speaker 5: I have to say with Peter, I don't know I've 273 00:11:43,748 --> 00:11:44,268 Speaker 5: ever heard of. 274 00:11:44,188 --> 00:11:46,788 Speaker 2: A sneaky twelve and two team. Talk about the Vikings, 275 00:11:46,828 --> 00:11:48,028 Speaker 2: it's an unbelievable thing. 276 00:11:48,468 --> 00:11:50,868 Speaker 5: I don't talk a lot of like F one here, 277 00:11:51,308 --> 00:11:53,948 Speaker 5: but I feel like the Vikings are in something called 278 00:11:54,268 --> 00:11:57,508 Speaker 5: a slipstream where you just ride behind the other car 279 00:11:57,628 --> 00:12:00,068 Speaker 5: and the wind doesn't resist you as much and you're 280 00:12:00,188 --> 00:12:01,908 Speaker 5: going faster as you have to do as much work. 281 00:12:02,308 --> 00:12:05,428 Speaker 5: They're in the Lions slipstream and have for the whole season. 282 00:12:05,748 --> 00:12:08,428 Speaker 5: All the oxygen gets sucked out by the Lions, even 283 00:12:08,468 --> 00:12:11,348 Speaker 5: the Packers. Then you're like, eh, the Vikings. Sam Darnold 284 00:12:11,588 --> 00:12:13,828 Speaker 5: look it up like in the important stuff, the QB 285 00:12:13,948 --> 00:12:17,828 Speaker 5: rating touchdowns, he's all top five quarterback. He's a top 286 00:12:17,948 --> 00:12:21,108 Speaker 5: five guy this year. So the Vikings by far, just 287 00:12:21,188 --> 00:12:23,068 Speaker 5: merely that they have an identity of a twelve and 288 00:12:23,108 --> 00:12:25,868 Speaker 5: two sneaky team. I think are the most fascinating team, 289 00:12:25,908 --> 00:12:29,068 Speaker 5: the most dangerous team. At some point, when would we 290 00:12:29,108 --> 00:12:31,188 Speaker 5: give up on the lines if golf were to get injured, 291 00:12:31,188 --> 00:12:33,828 Speaker 5: God forbid, how many injuries can they possibly take and 292 00:12:33,868 --> 00:12:36,348 Speaker 5: we still say, yeah, they'll be in the super Bowl. 293 00:12:36,388 --> 00:12:37,708 Speaker 2: I have to be honest. I think I could be 294 00:12:37,748 --> 00:12:38,988 Speaker 2: concise with the Vikings thing. 295 00:12:39,148 --> 00:12:42,308 Speaker 6: I think this Minnesota Vikings team is paying for the 296 00:12:42,348 --> 00:12:47,348 Speaker 6: sins of the twenty twenty two Vikings team that went 297 00:12:47,988 --> 00:12:50,468 Speaker 6: awesome won the division home play and then Daniel Jones 298 00:12:50,508 --> 00:12:50,788 Speaker 6: came in. 299 00:12:50,908 --> 00:12:53,108 Speaker 5: They were eleven and one, and everyone said margin of victory, 300 00:12:53,148 --> 00:12:53,828 Speaker 5: margin of victory. 301 00:12:53,708 --> 00:12:55,548 Speaker 6: They went by all these small margins, just like this 302 00:12:55,588 --> 00:12:58,428 Speaker 6: team does. And then hey, guess what, Daniel Jones and 303 00:12:58,428 --> 00:12:59,988 Speaker 6: Saquon Barkley came in and they beat him in a 304 00:13:00,028 --> 00:13:00,668 Speaker 6: plaoff game. 305 00:13:00,508 --> 00:13:02,108 Speaker 2: And it's like, don't fool me again. 306 00:13:02,548 --> 00:13:05,148 Speaker 6: It's a totally different team with a total quarterback and 307 00:13:05,188 --> 00:13:07,388 Speaker 6: a lot of different players all over the roster. But 308 00:13:07,468 --> 00:13:09,428 Speaker 6: I think people are a little cautious of being like, 309 00:13:09,508 --> 00:13:11,468 Speaker 6: all right, the Vikings based on what they did two 310 00:13:11,508 --> 00:13:12,908 Speaker 6: years ago and flopped in the playoffs. 311 00:13:13,868 --> 00:13:16,108 Speaker 9: Hey, Kyle, what you were referencing there? Was that a 312 00:13:16,148 --> 00:13:18,548 Speaker 9: telldig of Knights reference there, A little slingshot engaged. 313 00:13:19,748 --> 00:13:22,148 Speaker 5: Yeah, it probably Sean o'harett texted me before the show, 314 00:13:22,148 --> 00:13:23,788 Speaker 5: and I should do that. But that's how it works. 315 00:13:23,828 --> 00:13:26,468 Speaker 5: You hide behind the faster, high profile car and then 316 00:13:26,548 --> 00:13:29,748 Speaker 5: bam out of nowhere. That would be we look at 317 00:13:29,788 --> 00:13:31,548 Speaker 5: our calendar in a few weeks in the standings and 318 00:13:31,588 --> 00:13:33,948 Speaker 5: the Vikings are the one seed and we haven't hyped 319 00:13:33,988 --> 00:13:35,588 Speaker 5: them for four months because it's been all about Dan 320 00:13:35,628 --> 00:13:36,428 Speaker 5: Campbell and the Lions. 321 00:13:36,548 --> 00:13:38,668 Speaker 3: Listen, there are demons in the past too. When you 322 00:13:38,708 --> 00:13:41,028 Speaker 3: look at the other top teams in the NFC. No 323 00:13:41,268 --> 00:13:44,308 Speaker 3: Vikings fan wants this team to go to Philadelphia and 324 00:13:44,348 --> 00:13:46,988 Speaker 3: have to play a road playoff game against the Eagles. 325 00:13:47,028 --> 00:13:48,108 Speaker 2: The Eagles are really good. 326 00:13:48,428 --> 00:13:51,668 Speaker 3: They have nightmarres from what happens in the postseason in 327 00:13:51,748 --> 00:13:54,508 Speaker 3: playoffs on the way to a super Bowl. Ford Field 328 00:13:54,628 --> 00:13:57,028 Speaker 3: has nightmare potential and that's coming down the pipe. 329 00:13:56,788 --> 00:13:57,588 Speaker 2: In just a couple of weeks. 330 00:13:57,628 --> 00:14:00,988 Speaker 3: To Kyle's point, if you can jump from five to one, 331 00:14:01,548 --> 00:14:03,708 Speaker 3: rest your guys for an entire week. 332 00:14:03,548 --> 00:14:06,428 Speaker 2: That first round by and to have home. 333 00:14:06,268 --> 00:14:09,468 Speaker 3: Field advantage the rest of the stretch is a ridiculous thing. 334 00:14:09,988 --> 00:14:11,108 Speaker 2: I ask you this about how. 335 00:14:10,988 --> 00:14:14,348 Speaker 3: The Vikings peter, their makeup is and the coaching. If 336 00:14:14,348 --> 00:14:17,548 Speaker 3: you had to pick one right now, would you go 337 00:14:17,868 --> 00:14:20,828 Speaker 3: an Executive of the Year to Quisiadopha Menza and the 338 00:14:20,988 --> 00:14:23,308 Speaker 3: team that he's built and the guys that he let 339 00:14:23,388 --> 00:14:25,548 Speaker 3: walk out the building and the guys he brought in 340 00:14:25,708 --> 00:14:27,988 Speaker 3: or is it Coach of the Year with Kevin o'connolly. 341 00:14:28,228 --> 00:14:30,028 Speaker 3: Is it the makeup? Is it a nature or is 342 00:14:30,028 --> 00:14:31,868 Speaker 3: it nurture? Is it the makeup of the team or 343 00:14:31,868 --> 00:14:33,148 Speaker 3: how they're executing the game? 344 00:14:34,468 --> 00:14:38,428 Speaker 2: Where is it Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell? It's both. 345 00:14:38,668 --> 00:14:42,068 Speaker 6: I mean, you've got great, great roster management decisions on 346 00:14:42,148 --> 00:14:45,228 Speaker 6: all these Teamsquacy what they did last night? 347 00:14:45,268 --> 00:14:46,628 Speaker 2: Their game balls were given out. 348 00:14:46,868 --> 00:14:50,108 Speaker 6: Blake Cashman got one, Jonathan Gernard got one, Aaron Jones 349 00:14:50,108 --> 00:14:52,108 Speaker 6: got one. All three of those guys are players they 350 00:14:52,108 --> 00:14:53,508 Speaker 6: signed in free agency this year. 351 00:14:53,548 --> 00:14:55,348 Speaker 2: And oh yeah, Sam Darnold is too. 352 00:14:55,388 --> 00:14:58,588 Speaker 6: Incredible roster management and O'Connell's the perfect coach. 353 00:14:58,388 --> 00:14:59,108 Speaker 2: This Vikings team. 354 00:14:59,228 --> 00:15:00,868 Speaker 6: I know it seems like we're hyping up a lot 355 00:15:00,908 --> 00:15:03,308 Speaker 6: today because they are National TV last night. We're going 356 00:15:03,348 --> 00:15:04,668 Speaker 6: to see a lot of them the next three and 357 00:15:04,668 --> 00:15:10,508 Speaker 6: we'll see where they're at. Can we get a lot 358 00:15:10,548 --> 00:15:13,988 Speaker 6: of celebrity guests on the show who say they're football fans? 359 00:15:14,388 --> 00:15:16,748 Speaker 2: Some of them are and then some of them are diehards. 360 00:15:16,948 --> 00:15:18,908 Speaker 6: One of them that we're having on right now is 361 00:15:18,948 --> 00:15:21,868 Speaker 6: a true diehard. Now we look at the Lions in 362 00:15:21,908 --> 00:15:24,028 Speaker 6: their fan base, they're all having a great year, but 363 00:15:24,068 --> 00:15:27,388 Speaker 6: the defense has been hit really hard with injuries this season. 364 00:15:27,788 --> 00:15:29,988 Speaker 2: And this week on his podcast, it is with his 365 00:15:30,068 --> 00:15:30,748 Speaker 2: lovely wife. 366 00:15:30,788 --> 00:15:34,348 Speaker 6: The Squeeze, Our next guest caught up with the team 367 00:15:34,508 --> 00:15:36,428 Speaker 6: star pass rusher Aiden Hutchinson. 368 00:15:37,028 --> 00:15:41,028 Speaker 2: Now they're daated. We're Taylor Lawner and his wife Taylor. 369 00:15:41,148 --> 00:15:44,908 Speaker 6: Now Hutchinson of course has the broken leg, but his 370 00:15:44,988 --> 00:15:49,228 Speaker 6: shirt says unbroken. Well, they had a conversation and we 371 00:15:49,308 --> 00:15:50,588 Speaker 6: have an exclusive clip. 372 00:15:50,788 --> 00:15:51,468 Speaker 2: Take a listen to. 373 00:15:51,468 --> 00:15:54,748 Speaker 6: The conversation between the Taylors and Aiden Hutchinson. 374 00:15:56,828 --> 00:15:59,188 Speaker 10: I'm at that mark and I'm just I'm on track 375 00:15:59,308 --> 00:16:02,308 Speaker 10: for my goal of returning for the Super Bowl, and 376 00:16:02,428 --> 00:16:04,148 Speaker 10: so I keep telling all the boys when I see 377 00:16:04,188 --> 00:16:06,148 Speaker 10: him in the facility, I'm like, you, I just got 378 00:16:06,148 --> 00:16:08,348 Speaker 10: to get there, and I promise you I'm going to 379 00:16:08,428 --> 00:16:10,788 Speaker 10: be back, you know, And I tell people that. My 380 00:16:10,868 --> 00:16:12,508 Speaker 10: mom was like, I remember. 381 00:16:12,268 --> 00:16:13,108 Speaker 2: We were talking yesterday. 382 00:16:13,148 --> 00:16:15,228 Speaker 10: She's like, but ATON like, like what if you don't 383 00:16:15,228 --> 00:16:17,228 Speaker 10: get back, Like like what if you can't. I was like, 384 00:16:17,628 --> 00:16:18,428 Speaker 10: there's no other. 385 00:16:18,268 --> 00:16:22,468 Speaker 7: Way, no way. 386 00:16:23,948 --> 00:16:26,588 Speaker 6: Let's welcome in the host of that podcast, lines fan 387 00:16:26,668 --> 00:16:29,548 Speaker 6: and a friend of our show, mister Taylor Oh Taylor, 388 00:16:30,108 --> 00:16:31,628 Speaker 6: you would thank you. 389 00:16:31,908 --> 00:16:34,388 Speaker 7: There's no other way. There's no other way. 390 00:16:34,868 --> 00:16:35,348 Speaker 2: So good. 391 00:16:35,508 --> 00:16:39,588 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, so let's get into this. That's breaking news 392 00:16:39,628 --> 00:16:42,108 Speaker 6: to me. Like I'm a newsmaker. I'm a newsbreaker. I 393 00:16:42,148 --> 00:16:44,308 Speaker 6: feel like, Taylor, you just sky have us an exclusive. 394 00:16:44,948 --> 00:16:47,348 Speaker 6: If they make the Super Bowl, Aden Hutchinson will be there. 395 00:16:47,388 --> 00:16:48,988 Speaker 2: What was your response when he said that. 396 00:16:49,748 --> 00:16:53,908 Speaker 11: I know, like we all heard the reports after the 397 00:16:53,948 --> 00:16:58,068 Speaker 11: injury that he was going to be back, and even 398 00:16:58,108 --> 00:17:01,188 Speaker 11: myself was like, I mean, is that realistic? 399 00:17:01,468 --> 00:17:02,428 Speaker 7: Is it smart? 400 00:17:02,708 --> 00:17:08,388 Speaker 11: Like you battle with that, But now after speaking with him, 401 00:17:08,548 --> 00:17:12,108 Speaker 11: he is dead set on if they make the Super Bowl, 402 00:17:12,228 --> 00:17:13,788 Speaker 11: he is going to be there. 403 00:17:13,828 --> 00:17:16,028 Speaker 7: And there's no changing this man's mind. 404 00:17:17,108 --> 00:17:20,748 Speaker 11: This guy loves the game of football more than anybody 405 00:17:20,788 --> 00:17:24,028 Speaker 11: in the NFL, so I don't doubt a single word 406 00:17:24,148 --> 00:17:24,708 Speaker 11: he says. 407 00:17:26,388 --> 00:17:28,228 Speaker 5: That's really really cool that he says it to you 408 00:17:28,268 --> 00:17:30,668 Speaker 5: and Taylor too. He feels comfortable, he feels confident. You know, 409 00:17:30,708 --> 00:17:32,948 Speaker 5: you guys are fans, and that is a big deal. 410 00:17:33,028 --> 00:17:36,108 Speaker 5: I mean, this has been speculated on for weeks, months even, 411 00:17:36,188 --> 00:17:38,628 Speaker 5: and to hear him say it on your couch really 412 00:17:38,628 --> 00:17:40,948 Speaker 5: really really cool. By the way, Taylor, we're at this 413 00:17:40,988 --> 00:17:43,268 Speaker 5: point now where you know, we talked about it last segments. 414 00:17:44,228 --> 00:17:45,828 Speaker 2: They've had a lot of injuries. 415 00:17:45,908 --> 00:17:48,148 Speaker 5: Hutchinson was the headliner months ago, but now it's just 416 00:17:48,188 --> 00:17:50,388 Speaker 5: his injury after injury and they lost Montgomery. 417 00:17:50,428 --> 00:17:51,828 Speaker 2: Now, as a fan and. 418 00:17:51,828 --> 00:17:53,548 Speaker 5: As a guy who follows this really close, so we 419 00:17:53,548 --> 00:17:55,948 Speaker 5: had the discussion last segment how do they get through 420 00:17:55,988 --> 00:17:57,988 Speaker 5: this and how do they endure and still get to 421 00:17:57,988 --> 00:18:00,628 Speaker 5: that super Bowl so Ayden can play, I know. 422 00:18:00,948 --> 00:18:02,628 Speaker 7: And we talked about it with him. 423 00:18:03,988 --> 00:18:08,068 Speaker 11: Now, our conversation did take place before this last game. 424 00:18:08,588 --> 00:18:12,308 Speaker 11: Uh so before we lost a Leen Carlton in Montgomery, 425 00:18:12,988 --> 00:18:15,788 Speaker 11: which is definitely a massive blow and hard to believe 426 00:18:15,868 --> 00:18:21,268 Speaker 11: how it's even possible. The injuries are just they're insane. 427 00:18:21,468 --> 00:18:27,748 Speaker 11: But he speaks towards the character that Dan has created 428 00:18:28,148 --> 00:18:31,428 Speaker 11: and that is what has gotten through you know to 429 00:18:31,508 --> 00:18:32,148 Speaker 11: this point. 430 00:18:32,988 --> 00:18:35,668 Speaker 7: It truly is a next man up mentality. 431 00:18:36,148 --> 00:18:40,828 Speaker 11: They they are deep and just what Dan Campbell has 432 00:18:40,868 --> 00:18:44,868 Speaker 11: built in Detroit is uh just you know, like he says, 433 00:18:44,948 --> 00:18:45,908 Speaker 11: it's it's grit. 434 00:18:47,188 --> 00:18:49,708 Speaker 7: But this this week's. 435 00:18:49,468 --> 00:18:52,988 Speaker 11: New injuries are definitely a massive blow and as a fan, 436 00:18:53,348 --> 00:18:55,428 Speaker 11: I'm I'm shook. 437 00:18:55,668 --> 00:18:59,268 Speaker 7: I don't I don't know how I believe it. It's 438 00:18:59,348 --> 00:19:00,588 Speaker 7: it's it's tough, man. 439 00:19:01,668 --> 00:19:04,108 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel you. I mean, this is a team, 440 00:19:04,868 --> 00:19:07,268 Speaker 4: you know, Taylor, that I've said that was gonna go 441 00:19:07,308 --> 00:19:08,988 Speaker 4: all the way to the super Bowl and they'll be 442 00:19:09,028 --> 00:19:11,828 Speaker 4: going up against the Kanas City Chiefs. And for you 443 00:19:11,868 --> 00:19:14,268 Speaker 4: as a fan, you look at this, is this something 444 00:19:14,308 --> 00:19:17,068 Speaker 4: that you believe Dan Campbell can overcome, because I mean 445 00:19:17,108 --> 00:19:19,388 Speaker 4: it does relight the Who's Who. But do you believe 446 00:19:19,948 --> 00:19:21,108 Speaker 4: that the Lions can overcome this. 447 00:19:22,228 --> 00:19:23,308 Speaker 7: I'm gonna say yes. 448 00:19:23,668 --> 00:19:27,148 Speaker 11: I'm gonna say yes, and I'm being I'm admitting that 449 00:19:27,188 --> 00:19:31,348 Speaker 11: I'm being a little hopeful, but I'm backing Aiden's mentality. 450 00:19:31,668 --> 00:19:36,348 Speaker 11: And I think it's all gonna come down to that 451 00:19:36,428 --> 00:19:37,668 Speaker 11: Week eighteen game. 452 00:19:37,828 --> 00:19:39,188 Speaker 7: And I hope it doesn't. 453 00:19:39,268 --> 00:19:41,668 Speaker 11: I hope we can seal it up before then, but 454 00:19:41,748 --> 00:19:44,588 Speaker 11: I'm scared that it's gonna come down to Week eighteen. 455 00:19:45,148 --> 00:19:46,428 Speaker 7: We need to hold on. 456 00:19:46,868 --> 00:19:48,548 Speaker 11: I mean, I would prefer to hold on to the 457 00:19:48,988 --> 00:19:52,708 Speaker 11: one seed, but definitely hold on to the division. If 458 00:19:52,748 --> 00:19:57,068 Speaker 11: we can have the crowd and Ford Field behind us, 459 00:19:57,348 --> 00:19:59,628 Speaker 11: I think that's what can push us over the edge. 460 00:19:59,948 --> 00:20:03,148 Speaker 11: If we lose the division somehow, it's gonna be really, 461 00:20:03,308 --> 00:20:04,188 Speaker 11: really tough by. 462 00:20:04,388 --> 00:20:06,108 Speaker 7: I think we can. I think we can hold on. 463 00:20:07,188 --> 00:20:10,828 Speaker 9: All right, Taylor, with stardom gives you access, and with 464 00:20:10,908 --> 00:20:13,628 Speaker 9: that access that you have at times, you found your 465 00:20:13,668 --> 00:20:15,828 Speaker 9: way in to the sideline of the Detroit Lions game 466 00:20:15,948 --> 00:20:18,068 Speaker 9: last year and you just may have had a picture 467 00:20:18,108 --> 00:20:22,268 Speaker 9: with one Calvin Johnson and Barry Sanders. Which of those stars, 468 00:20:22,308 --> 00:20:25,188 Speaker 9: those superstars, those legends gave you the nervous hands? 469 00:20:25,188 --> 00:20:26,908 Speaker 2: Which one did you get more nervous about? Me? 470 00:20:27,948 --> 00:20:30,708 Speaker 7: Ooh, that is such a tough question. 471 00:20:31,428 --> 00:20:35,388 Speaker 11: I mean, I have been a massive Megatron fan my 472 00:20:35,708 --> 00:20:40,388 Speaker 11: entire life, so I would say I would say Calvin. 473 00:20:40,508 --> 00:20:45,068 Speaker 11: But the very moment I had was pretty surreal and 474 00:20:45,228 --> 00:20:48,748 Speaker 11: ridiculous when I tell it to you. I was talking 475 00:20:48,788 --> 00:20:50,748 Speaker 11: with Calvin, I was on the sideline for a while, 476 00:20:50,908 --> 00:20:52,268 Speaker 11: and then it was time to go up because the 477 00:20:52,308 --> 00:20:52,988 Speaker 11: game was starting. 478 00:20:53,148 --> 00:20:55,068 Speaker 7: But I got tapped on the shoulder. It was by 479 00:20:55,068 --> 00:20:55,628 Speaker 7: a gentleman. 480 00:20:55,748 --> 00:20:58,628 Speaker 11: He goes, hey, can you take a picture with Barry 481 00:20:58,668 --> 00:21:01,668 Speaker 11: real quick? And I had been taking you know, photos 482 00:21:01,708 --> 00:21:04,068 Speaker 11: down there, and I'm just thinking, you know some dude 483 00:21:04,148 --> 00:21:11,388 Speaker 11: named I'm like, yeah, of course, the Barry Sanders. And 484 00:21:11,428 --> 00:21:15,228 Speaker 11: I'm like, wait, I'm sorry, Barry's asking for a photo 485 00:21:15,348 --> 00:21:18,628 Speaker 11: with me right now, like what is happening? So that 486 00:21:18,828 --> 00:21:21,428 Speaker 11: moment right there kind of stole tonight and then this 487 00:21:21,508 --> 00:21:25,708 Speaker 11: photo is just great in between the two goats epics. 488 00:21:25,788 --> 00:21:28,508 Speaker 3: That is a fantastic picture and the fact that you're 489 00:21:28,548 --> 00:21:30,588 Speaker 3: just like I was on the field taken photos with Whoever, 490 00:21:30,668 --> 00:21:32,908 Speaker 3: when you show up at places, Taylor, people want to 491 00:21:32,948 --> 00:21:35,428 Speaker 3: take photos with you. Very rarely is it. You show 492 00:21:35,548 --> 00:21:37,508 Speaker 3: up and there's a different tailor people want to take 493 00:21:37,548 --> 00:21:42,388 Speaker 3: photos with. You have now become essentially a creative partner 494 00:21:42,548 --> 00:21:46,148 Speaker 3: of Taylor Swift. You guys are longtime friends. You were 495 00:21:46,188 --> 00:21:48,668 Speaker 3: on our show in late May a couple of years back. 496 00:21:48,748 --> 00:21:52,388 Speaker 3: In early July, you pop up on stage in Kansas 497 00:21:52,428 --> 00:21:56,788 Speaker 3: City during the Era's tour. People lost their minds. It's 498 00:21:56,828 --> 00:21:59,228 Speaker 3: considered one of the best moments of the Era's tour. 499 00:21:59,748 --> 00:22:02,708 Speaker 3: What is your relationship you and your wife? You're friends 500 00:22:02,708 --> 00:22:05,628 Speaker 3: with Taylor now, But how much can you appreciate what 501 00:22:05,828 --> 00:22:08,868 Speaker 3: this woman has brought to the NFL and her presence 502 00:22:08,868 --> 00:22:10,908 Speaker 3: on the sideline just knowing her as well as you do. 503 00:22:12,188 --> 00:22:15,468 Speaker 11: Yeah, it's amazing, I mean, and just to be included 504 00:22:15,508 --> 00:22:19,068 Speaker 11: and her journey is such an honor. What she's done 505 00:22:19,108 --> 00:22:24,148 Speaker 11: over the past nearly two years is just truly unbelievable, 506 00:22:24,748 --> 00:22:26,468 Speaker 11: and it's you know, it's awesome seeing her at the 507 00:22:26,508 --> 00:22:28,988 Speaker 11: games and stuff. But I mean, what sticks out to 508 00:22:29,028 --> 00:22:32,388 Speaker 11: me most about Taylor is just who she is as 509 00:22:32,428 --> 00:22:35,548 Speaker 11: a person. Like people see and you know, think of 510 00:22:35,588 --> 00:22:38,788 Speaker 11: her as this like larger than life thing. But if 511 00:22:38,828 --> 00:22:41,228 Speaker 11: you sit down and have a one on one conversation 512 00:22:41,388 --> 00:22:44,868 Speaker 11: with her, she treats you with the respect that you 513 00:22:44,908 --> 00:22:47,228 Speaker 11: know anybody would hopefully give you. 514 00:22:47,308 --> 00:22:49,068 Speaker 7: So that that's what I love most about her. 515 00:22:49,548 --> 00:22:52,868 Speaker 3: Would you make a creative parallel between Taylor Swift and 516 00:22:52,908 --> 00:22:55,468 Speaker 3: her songwriter and Ben Johnson and the way he conducts 517 00:22:55,468 --> 00:22:56,788 Speaker 3: his offensive playbook. 518 00:22:56,428 --> 00:23:00,468 Speaker 7: Inter Yes, both genies perfect. 519 00:23:00,788 --> 00:23:02,028 Speaker 2: Just want to clarify. 520 00:23:05,308 --> 00:23:07,388 Speaker 6: Give us a second tell us about the Squeeze a 521 00:23:07,388 --> 00:23:09,828 Speaker 6: little bit, Like, we love having you on as a guest, 522 00:23:09,868 --> 00:23:11,628 Speaker 6: but it's pretty rare that you get a husband and 523 00:23:11,668 --> 00:23:14,788 Speaker 6: wife team doing a podcast together. What can we expect 524 00:23:14,788 --> 00:23:16,588 Speaker 6: if we were listening on a random episode. 525 00:23:17,428 --> 00:23:22,188 Speaker 11: Yeah, we started this podcast February will be two years 526 00:23:22,228 --> 00:23:25,188 Speaker 11: ago and it's a mental health based podcast. We both 527 00:23:25,348 --> 00:23:28,508 Speaker 11: just felt called to do this and it's been the 528 00:23:28,548 --> 00:23:30,348 Speaker 11: most rewarding journey for us. 529 00:23:30,628 --> 00:23:32,148 Speaker 7: People seem to enjoy it. 530 00:23:32,908 --> 00:23:37,948 Speaker 11: So it comes out every Wednesday, but tomorrow Wednesday, it's. 531 00:23:37,788 --> 00:23:39,948 Speaker 7: Gonna be my favorite episode yet. And it was. 532 00:23:40,028 --> 00:23:43,308 Speaker 11: It was such an honor to have Aiden, you know, 533 00:23:43,548 --> 00:23:45,788 Speaker 11: have that conversation with him and him be like, I 534 00:23:45,828 --> 00:23:49,428 Speaker 11: haven't talked about the injury yet. I haven't talked about 535 00:23:49,468 --> 00:23:53,148 Speaker 11: anything publicly, but I want to do it with you guys, 536 00:23:53,228 --> 00:23:56,108 Speaker 11: and we've become friends over the last year, so it 537 00:23:56,228 --> 00:23:57,948 Speaker 11: was really such an honor. 538 00:23:57,988 --> 00:23:58,708 Speaker 7: And we just. 539 00:23:58,668 --> 00:24:01,348 Speaker 11: Had a We flew to Detroit to have the conversation 540 00:24:01,668 --> 00:24:05,388 Speaker 11: and it's awesome. I'm looking forward to him coming back 541 00:24:05,468 --> 00:24:07,708 Speaker 11: healthier than ever, and I don't have a doubt in 542 00:24:07,748 --> 00:24:09,908 Speaker 11: my mind that he will. 543 00:24:10,388 --> 00:24:12,708 Speaker 2: Taylor, he was a devastating injury. I mean, it was 544 00:24:12,748 --> 00:24:13,308 Speaker 2: really horrible. 545 00:24:13,348 --> 00:24:15,228 Speaker 5: We all saw it and we were also crisfall when 546 00:24:15,228 --> 00:24:15,908 Speaker 5: it happened to him. 547 00:24:16,428 --> 00:24:18,908 Speaker 2: Tell us a little more. How was he doing. 548 00:24:18,988 --> 00:24:21,468 Speaker 5: It's just he's walking around, he's trying to get through 549 00:24:21,468 --> 00:24:23,628 Speaker 5: his day, he's doing podcasts, he's trying to keep his 550 00:24:23,668 --> 00:24:25,628 Speaker 5: chin up. Tell us a little more background about where 551 00:24:25,628 --> 00:24:27,388 Speaker 5: he's at right now, because we're all dying to hear it. 552 00:24:28,148 --> 00:24:31,628 Speaker 11: Yeah, we dive into it in the podcast, we talk 553 00:24:31,708 --> 00:24:36,108 Speaker 11: for about an hour, but he I think, you know, 554 00:24:36,508 --> 00:24:38,908 Speaker 11: he talks about the loneliness at first. You got to 555 00:24:38,948 --> 00:24:42,908 Speaker 11: think about the lives that these guys live every single day, 556 00:24:44,388 --> 00:24:47,468 Speaker 11: you know, and then just going from being in those 557 00:24:47,588 --> 00:24:51,748 Speaker 11: rooms on that field every single week to you know, 558 00:24:51,828 --> 00:24:54,788 Speaker 11: there's not much you can do, like at first for him, 559 00:24:54,868 --> 00:24:57,188 Speaker 11: like it's just he's got a heal and then he's 560 00:24:57,228 --> 00:24:59,548 Speaker 11: got to learn how to walk again. And it's a 561 00:24:59,588 --> 00:25:02,788 Speaker 11: lonely journey at first, so it you know, it was 562 00:25:02,908 --> 00:25:06,548 Speaker 11: dark at times, but he pushed through that and he 563 00:25:06,628 --> 00:25:10,068 Speaker 11: pushed through the pain and right now he is just 564 00:25:10,348 --> 00:25:14,108 Speaker 11: dead set on this comeback. And like I said before, 565 00:25:14,188 --> 00:25:18,588 Speaker 11: I mean, there's just nobody I would doubt less than 566 00:25:18,748 --> 00:25:19,708 Speaker 11: Aiden Hutchinson. 567 00:25:19,828 --> 00:25:24,268 Speaker 7: He's a beast physically, but you know he's a beast mentally. 568 00:25:25,748 --> 00:25:27,708 Speaker 6: All Right, before we let you go, I know you 569 00:25:27,748 --> 00:25:30,788 Speaker 6: did some filming and some some work down in the 570 00:25:30,908 --> 00:25:34,268 Speaker 6: Louisiana area when you were filming those Twilight movies and 571 00:25:34,308 --> 00:25:35,348 Speaker 6: down to Baton Rouge. 572 00:25:35,388 --> 00:25:37,148 Speaker 2: And we're going with us, Peter, New Orleans. 573 00:25:37,388 --> 00:25:40,028 Speaker 6: We're going at least the NFL is a super Bowl. 574 00:25:40,108 --> 00:25:43,108 Speaker 6: Give us one tip for New Orleans Super Bowl Week. 575 00:25:43,148 --> 00:25:43,908 Speaker 2: What would be your. 576 00:25:43,828 --> 00:25:46,148 Speaker 6: Advice as far as getting down to the big easy 577 00:25:46,388 --> 00:25:49,068 Speaker 6: and how to handle several days down there. 578 00:25:49,828 --> 00:25:53,588 Speaker 11: Oh man, honestly, I would just say, eat as much 579 00:25:53,628 --> 00:25:56,108 Speaker 11: food as you can. The food is so good in 580 00:25:56,148 --> 00:25:59,308 Speaker 11: that city. I don't even I have a laundry list 581 00:25:59,308 --> 00:26:00,308 Speaker 11: that I'll have to text you. 582 00:26:00,388 --> 00:26:03,068 Speaker 7: But just eat as much food as you can. 583 00:26:03,268 --> 00:26:06,588 Speaker 11: And I hope we're there with with my Lions. 584 00:26:06,628 --> 00:26:10,108 Speaker 7: I really too, I don't have a laundry list. 585 00:26:10,148 --> 00:26:11,348 Speaker 2: But Taylor, this is what I want. 586 00:26:11,588 --> 00:26:14,308 Speaker 5: I think it's it's it's if it's Lions chiefs okay, 587 00:26:14,348 --> 00:26:16,108 Speaker 5: and the Lions win the game and you're on the 588 00:26:16,108 --> 00:26:17,028 Speaker 5: field and confetti. 589 00:26:17,228 --> 00:26:18,068 Speaker 2: I just want to picture. 590 00:26:18,108 --> 00:26:21,948 Speaker 5: I want Taylor Lautner, your wife, Taylor, Taylor Swift, and 591 00:26:21,988 --> 00:26:22,988 Speaker 5: Taylor Decker. 592 00:26:22,788 --> 00:26:24,988 Speaker 2: All they would lined up. I want that picture. 593 00:26:25,068 --> 00:26:31,268 Speaker 7: Okay. I would be honored. I would be honored. 594 00:26:30,948 --> 00:26:33,028 Speaker 2: Confetti due. 595 00:26:33,108 --> 00:26:35,628 Speaker 6: Thank you so much for joining us, and congratulations, such 596 00:26:35,668 --> 00:26:36,868 Speaker 6: a scoop and a great interview. 597 00:26:36,908 --> 00:26:37,988 Speaker 2: Appreciate it. You're the man. 598 00:26:38,188 --> 00:26:40,268 Speaker 7: Thank you, Love you guys. Thanks for having me back. 599 00:26:40,348 --> 00:26:40,868 Speaker 7: Thank you too. 600 00:26:41,708 --> 00:26:44,908 Speaker 2: Awesome job, Tyler. Yeah, the squeeze. 601 00:26:47,748 --> 00:26:50,748 Speaker 5: We love having new friends, our little New York studio 602 00:26:50,868 --> 00:26:54,988 Speaker 5: here and this is mister Jim Rooney from the Steelers organization, 603 00:26:55,068 --> 00:26:57,068 Speaker 5: of course, and he has an incredible new book, A 604 00:26:57,108 --> 00:26:59,228 Speaker 5: Different Way to Win Dan Rooney Story from the Super 605 00:26:59,228 --> 00:27:01,868 Speaker 5: Bowl to the Rooney Rule. Big plans on Christmas for 606 00:27:01,908 --> 00:27:03,428 Speaker 5: this man, but he's still here. Jim Rooney, How are 607 00:27:03,428 --> 00:27:04,028 Speaker 5: you good to see you? 608 00:27:04,108 --> 00:27:06,708 Speaker 12: Great to see you, Kyle. Happy to be here. Yeah, Peter, 609 00:27:07,228 --> 00:27:09,748 Speaker 12: Peter and I ail out. Everyone in LA is fired 610 00:27:09,828 --> 00:27:11,948 Speaker 12: up because you're here. You have the book, and we 611 00:27:11,988 --> 00:27:16,108 Speaker 12: are in the middle of yet another incredible Steelers season, 612 00:27:16,428 --> 00:27:19,388 Speaker 12: just a casual ten and four going to the playoffs 613 00:27:19,588 --> 00:27:21,548 Speaker 12: host see the game on Christmas Day. 614 00:27:21,828 --> 00:27:23,468 Speaker 2: What's it like in Steelers Nation right now? 615 00:27:23,628 --> 00:27:25,988 Speaker 12: Well, it's great, and you know, Kyle, you're you are 616 00:27:26,028 --> 00:27:27,668 Speaker 12: the I think the only one on the network, not 617 00:27:27,708 --> 00:27:29,508 Speaker 12: that we count go on it said that we're going 618 00:27:29,588 --> 00:27:30,468 Speaker 12: to be in the playoffs. 619 00:27:31,948 --> 00:27:33,948 Speaker 5: I keep telling him, Jim, I keep telling them, it's 620 00:27:33,948 --> 00:27:35,028 Speaker 5: so hard to pick playoff teams. 621 00:27:35,068 --> 00:27:37,268 Speaker 2: It's so difficult, So just pick the Steelers. 622 00:27:37,308 --> 00:27:39,908 Speaker 5: Make it easy every year, no matter who's the quarterback, 623 00:27:40,308 --> 00:27:41,428 Speaker 5: if that coach is there. 624 00:27:41,228 --> 00:27:43,148 Speaker 2: And that logo is there, you pick this. I've been 625 00:27:43,148 --> 00:27:45,028 Speaker 2: telling you too all you guys. 626 00:27:45,308 --> 00:27:47,988 Speaker 6: Now, it's it's making sure. I look, I look at 627 00:27:47,988 --> 00:27:49,828 Speaker 6: the Steelers team. Has it been a different kind of 628 00:27:49,868 --> 00:27:51,388 Speaker 6: year this year for them? I mean you always have 629 00:27:51,428 --> 00:27:53,148 Speaker 6: the Steelers of success, but do you feel a little 630 00:27:53,148 --> 00:27:55,508 Speaker 6: different with the new quarterback and some new guys on 631 00:27:55,548 --> 00:27:56,308 Speaker 6: the Rostering. 632 00:27:56,148 --> 00:27:59,148 Speaker 12: Well so, so, you know, having Ross and Justin I 633 00:27:59,148 --> 00:28:01,348 Speaker 12: think has been great and they've really, you know, kind 634 00:28:01,348 --> 00:28:03,588 Speaker 12: of stepped some things out. But on defense, you know, 635 00:28:03,668 --> 00:28:06,028 Speaker 12: cam TG, I mean the leadership we have on our 636 00:28:06,028 --> 00:28:08,548 Speaker 12: defense is solid, and I think when you bring young 637 00:28:08,588 --> 00:28:11,788 Speaker 12: guys in, that's why we're able to have some success. 638 00:28:11,908 --> 00:28:14,828 Speaker 2: Yes, Jamie in La, what do you got first? Yeah, well, I'm. 639 00:28:14,708 --> 00:28:16,748 Speaker 3: Flipping through the book. I have it here that you 640 00:28:16,748 --> 00:28:19,628 Speaker 3: have a book coming out and a different way to win. 641 00:28:19,788 --> 00:28:22,228 Speaker 3: Dan Rooney's story from the Super Bowl to the Rooney Role. 642 00:28:22,668 --> 00:28:24,668 Speaker 3: I actually I always like to go to the back first, 643 00:28:24,748 --> 00:28:27,108 Speaker 3: just to check things out. There's a really cool graphic 644 00:28:27,148 --> 00:28:28,988 Speaker 3: in here about the impact of the Rooney role. Everyone 645 00:28:29,028 --> 00:28:31,548 Speaker 3: should check this out. It's incredible work what you all 646 00:28:31,588 --> 00:28:33,988 Speaker 3: have done. But speaking of the playoffs, next week, let's 647 00:28:33,988 --> 00:28:37,628 Speaker 3: look back. This is the fifty second anniversary coming up 648 00:28:37,708 --> 00:28:40,308 Speaker 3: of the Immaculate reception, which was the Steelers' first ever 649 00:28:40,388 --> 00:28:44,468 Speaker 3: playoff win. Your audio book of this book features a 650 00:28:44,548 --> 00:28:48,308 Speaker 3: never before heard interview from Franco Harris about that moment. 651 00:28:48,308 --> 00:28:50,268 Speaker 4: To listen, there was an. 652 00:28:50,268 --> 00:28:53,948 Speaker 13: Energy there that just started to grab all of us, 653 00:28:54,548 --> 00:28:56,908 Speaker 13: and I think it kind of captured all of us. 654 00:28:56,988 --> 00:29:00,788 Speaker 13: It just put us in a different mood, a different feel. 655 00:29:01,468 --> 00:29:03,308 Speaker 13: I think we all could feel, you know, And like 656 00:29:03,388 --> 00:29:06,868 Speaker 13: as you said, your dad came home after the bag 657 00:29:07,108 --> 00:29:12,188 Speaker 13: reception game, and that feeling and that energy was building 658 00:29:12,948 --> 00:29:17,748 Speaker 13: during that season. It was captivating and everybody became part 659 00:29:17,788 --> 00:29:18,028 Speaker 13: of that. 660 00:29:19,908 --> 00:29:22,148 Speaker 3: I'm sure that's a good word for that interview. A 661 00:29:22,188 --> 00:29:24,428 Speaker 3: couple of things we were on the air two years 662 00:29:24,428 --> 00:29:26,748 Speaker 3: ago with Franco Harris pass I'm so sorry for the 663 00:29:26,788 --> 00:29:28,748 Speaker 3: impact that must have been felt by your family and 664 00:29:28,788 --> 00:29:31,428 Speaker 3: the organization. He was such a big man both on 665 00:29:31,468 --> 00:29:33,828 Speaker 3: the field and off the field. But take us back 666 00:29:33,868 --> 00:29:36,428 Speaker 3: to what Franco was referring to there, which is your 667 00:29:36,548 --> 00:29:38,748 Speaker 3: dad's reaction to the immaculate reception. 668 00:29:40,268 --> 00:29:40,508 Speaker 13: Yeah. 669 00:29:40,588 --> 00:29:43,188 Speaker 12: So in the book, we talk about my father's leadership 670 00:29:43,228 --> 00:29:46,388 Speaker 12: style and a bunch of players talked about different things. 671 00:29:46,748 --> 00:29:49,188 Speaker 12: One of the coolest was this idea that you can 672 00:29:49,228 --> 00:29:52,068 Speaker 12: have accountability and love in the locker room and how 673 00:29:52,068 --> 00:29:54,788 Speaker 12: do you balance those things. But my father was pretty 674 00:29:54,828 --> 00:29:57,948 Speaker 12: intense on game days, and I said, the only game 675 00:29:57,988 --> 00:30:01,388 Speaker 12: I ever remember him coming home, which is this massive 676 00:30:01,468 --> 00:30:04,748 Speaker 12: smile and this sense of euphoria was after that play. 677 00:30:04,948 --> 00:30:07,388 Speaker 12: Even after Super Bowls, he was onto the next thing. 678 00:30:07,428 --> 00:30:10,228 Speaker 12: But that play, it was just such a special moment 679 00:30:10,468 --> 00:30:12,468 Speaker 12: and the smiles that everyone had. 680 00:30:12,388 --> 00:30:13,548 Speaker 2: Was just it was so real. 681 00:30:13,588 --> 00:30:14,668 Speaker 6: Well, we got to add in and it was the 682 00:30:14,668 --> 00:30:17,668 Speaker 6: first playoff win, so it's all these years building to it. 683 00:30:17,708 --> 00:30:19,548 Speaker 2: I can only imagine the sense of relief. 684 00:30:19,588 --> 00:30:22,028 Speaker 6: And then you guys go on this incredible run over 685 00:30:22,108 --> 00:30:23,828 Speaker 6: throughout the seventies, but this was the start. 686 00:30:23,588 --> 00:30:23,948 Speaker 4: Of it all. 687 00:30:24,428 --> 00:30:28,348 Speaker 12: It absolutely was. And Franco was just such a special person. Yeah, 688 00:30:28,388 --> 00:30:31,988 Speaker 12: we've all been around athletes but great in so many ways. 689 00:30:32,428 --> 00:30:33,228 Speaker 7: But Franco. 690 00:30:33,348 --> 00:30:36,468 Speaker 12: Every time we're out with Franco, he stayed like I'd 691 00:30:36,548 --> 00:30:39,668 Speaker 12: leave events at midnight because he stayed to shake everyone's hands, 692 00:30:39,668 --> 00:30:40,628 Speaker 12: sign every autograph. 693 00:30:40,628 --> 00:30:41,948 Speaker 2: This was such a generous person. 694 00:30:41,988 --> 00:30:43,788 Speaker 6: There's a good interview with me and Joe Green in 695 00:30:43,828 --> 00:30:46,188 Speaker 6: here and he says that one of the things your 696 00:30:46,268 --> 00:30:49,188 Speaker 6: dad used to always stress was a term called let 697 00:30:49,228 --> 00:30:49,708 Speaker 6: it soak? 698 00:30:49,788 --> 00:30:51,068 Speaker 2: And you say, well, what does let it soak? 699 00:30:51,108 --> 00:30:51,188 Speaker 13: Me? 700 00:30:51,388 --> 00:30:53,588 Speaker 6: If you know the Steelers, they've had three head coaches 701 00:30:53,588 --> 00:30:56,708 Speaker 6: in the organization's history, and they do not make rash decisions. 702 00:30:57,588 --> 00:30:59,548 Speaker 6: What does let it soak mean to you when you 703 00:30:59,588 --> 00:31:01,668 Speaker 6: hear that term and me and Joe Green talking about it. 704 00:31:01,748 --> 00:31:04,028 Speaker 12: Yeah, And I think my father was a really good 705 00:31:04,068 --> 00:31:08,668 Speaker 12: leader at you know, he wasn't sanctimonious, but he was 706 00:31:08,708 --> 00:31:10,468 Speaker 12: able to hold that mirror up to you and say, 707 00:31:10,588 --> 00:31:12,948 Speaker 12: Joe or whoever it is, you know, is this really what. 708 00:31:12,868 --> 00:31:14,828 Speaker 2: You want to be? Is this how you want to act? 709 00:31:15,148 --> 00:31:16,988 Speaker 12: And you know, Joe had got himself in trouble in 710 00:31:17,028 --> 00:31:19,428 Speaker 12: some early years and he and he, you know, my 711 00:31:19,548 --> 00:31:21,428 Speaker 12: father was able to kind of put that mirror up 712 00:31:21,428 --> 00:31:24,268 Speaker 12: to him and and look at himself. And Joe says, 713 00:31:24,268 --> 00:31:26,188 Speaker 12: it really was a turning point for him and sort 714 00:31:26,188 --> 00:31:28,548 Speaker 12: of going from a good player who was a little 715 00:31:28,548 --> 00:31:30,868 Speaker 12: bit of a troublemaker to a captain of I think 716 00:31:30,908 --> 00:31:33,508 Speaker 12: the greatest team of all time Ochbar Yeah. 717 00:31:33,588 --> 00:31:37,348 Speaker 4: Dan uh, you know Dan Rooney. Uh, you know, I 718 00:31:37,868 --> 00:31:41,588 Speaker 4: think about the time that I met him, and there 719 00:31:41,668 --> 00:31:44,628 Speaker 4: was something that just magnetic about him. But he was 720 00:31:44,668 --> 00:31:47,108 Speaker 4: also one that was. He was a unique NFL owner, 721 00:31:47,268 --> 00:31:51,228 Speaker 4: very measured, not flashy or dramatic. Uh, that's your dad. 722 00:31:51,548 --> 00:31:54,468 Speaker 4: What's a story about him that kind of sums up 723 00:31:54,788 --> 00:31:58,348 Speaker 4: who he is as a as a father, as a businessman, 724 00:31:58,428 --> 00:32:00,468 Speaker 4: as a and as an NFL owner. 725 00:32:02,188 --> 00:32:04,788 Speaker 2: Well, I think so, Commissioner Goodell and I have story. 726 00:32:04,828 --> 00:32:06,908 Speaker 12: But my father, actually he was a pilot. He and 727 00:32:06,948 --> 00:32:09,628 Speaker 12: Coach Nol were both pilots. They both flew these single 728 00:32:09,668 --> 00:32:13,188 Speaker 12: engine planes. And he crashes the plane. He brings the 729 00:32:13,188 --> 00:32:17,948 Speaker 12: plane down with no gear, no electricity, no radio, and 730 00:32:18,308 --> 00:32:20,988 Speaker 12: you know, flops. It goes on the on the grass 731 00:32:21,028 --> 00:32:24,148 Speaker 12: in the middle. And he calls Commissioner Goodell after and 732 00:32:24,268 --> 00:32:26,548 Speaker 12: is talking about being at practice that day and all 733 00:32:26,588 --> 00:32:29,868 Speaker 12: these things, and he says, anything else happened. He goes, well, 734 00:32:29,868 --> 00:32:32,268 Speaker 12: I flopped my plane. And he said, no, that's a 735 00:32:32,308 --> 00:32:35,028 Speaker 12: crash of the plane. And he goes home and my 736 00:32:35,108 --> 00:32:37,108 Speaker 12: mother's crying. It's on the news by this point. My 737 00:32:37,148 --> 00:32:39,228 Speaker 12: mother's crying, this is what are you crying about? That 738 00:32:39,268 --> 00:32:41,828 Speaker 12: was my best landing, And that's sort of who my 739 00:32:41,908 --> 00:32:45,708 Speaker 12: father was. The more difficult a situation was, the more 740 00:32:45,748 --> 00:32:47,868 Speaker 12: he was able to kind of hone in and focus 741 00:32:47,908 --> 00:32:48,348 Speaker 12: on what. 742 00:32:48,268 --> 00:32:49,028 Speaker 2: You needed to do. 743 00:32:49,188 --> 00:32:52,388 Speaker 12: So he wasn't the best pilot, but if you were crashing, 744 00:32:52,508 --> 00:32:53,348 Speaker 12: he was the one you wanted. 745 00:32:53,468 --> 00:32:55,908 Speaker 2: End o A. 746 00:32:56,028 --> 00:32:56,228 Speaker 4: Jim. 747 00:32:56,348 --> 00:32:59,348 Speaker 9: We love of Coach Tomlin around here and now that 748 00:32:59,428 --> 00:33:01,588 Speaker 9: America is getting a little bit inside by peak behind 749 00:33:01,588 --> 00:33:01,868 Speaker 9: the veil. 750 00:33:01,948 --> 00:33:03,828 Speaker 2: Now obviously with the Hard Knocks Show. 751 00:33:04,588 --> 00:33:08,548 Speaker 9: He's featured in your audiobook with the conversation about your dad, 752 00:33:08,988 --> 00:33:10,548 Speaker 9: give us a little bit of a peek behind a 753 00:33:10,588 --> 00:33:13,588 Speaker 9: bill an understanding as to the relationship that they had. 754 00:33:15,348 --> 00:33:17,948 Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, Mike, tom is just such a good guys. 755 00:33:17,988 --> 00:33:20,028 Speaker 12: As he would say, he needs no endorsement for me, 756 00:33:20,748 --> 00:33:23,948 Speaker 12: But it was cool to see him, you know, have 757 00:33:24,148 --> 00:33:27,268 Speaker 12: this relationship where he was only about six years older 758 00:33:27,308 --> 00:33:32,028 Speaker 12: than my grand my father's oldest grandchild, and so there 759 00:33:32,188 --> 00:33:35,268 Speaker 12: was there was the respect he had for Coach Tomlin, 760 00:33:35,348 --> 00:33:37,628 Speaker 12: his ability to get things done, but there was also 761 00:33:37,788 --> 00:33:40,588 Speaker 12: this fondness this way that my father I think really 762 00:33:40,628 --> 00:33:44,708 Speaker 12: mentored him into the NFL, and and and and Mike 763 00:33:44,828 --> 00:33:48,548 Speaker 12: reflects on that is really a special time for him 764 00:33:48,548 --> 00:33:50,828 Speaker 12: to be able to relate to the players in the 765 00:33:50,868 --> 00:33:52,948 Speaker 12: way that he's demonstrated he can relate to players. 766 00:33:53,188 --> 00:33:55,028 Speaker 6: Yeah, I love seeing the old Steelers needs to take 767 00:33:55,068 --> 00:33:59,628 Speaker 6: So John Madden was there with Goodell there talking with 768 00:33:59,708 --> 00:34:03,868 Speaker 6: Tom and there Roger Goodell, commissioner. He calls your father 769 00:34:03,948 --> 00:34:06,508 Speaker 6: the big agent of change that he has ever seen. 770 00:34:06,548 --> 00:34:10,108 Speaker 6: And of course the Rooney Rule is named in his namesake. 771 00:34:11,028 --> 00:34:13,068 Speaker 6: Do you have any insight in the book or if 772 00:34:13,068 --> 00:34:15,508 Speaker 6: the viewers can listen to it on the audiobook of 773 00:34:15,508 --> 00:34:17,028 Speaker 6: how the Rooney Rule came to be and how that 774 00:34:17,068 --> 00:34:18,068 Speaker 6: was presented to the league. 775 00:34:18,308 --> 00:34:20,668 Speaker 12: Yeah, and so that's what we talked about a lot 776 00:34:20,748 --> 00:34:21,388 Speaker 12: in this book. 777 00:34:21,468 --> 00:34:21,668 Speaker 10: You know. 778 00:34:21,788 --> 00:34:24,188 Speaker 12: So in nineteen sixty eight, we hire a gentleman named 779 00:34:24,228 --> 00:34:27,308 Speaker 12: Bill Nunn, who was I think the third full time 780 00:34:27,348 --> 00:34:30,428 Speaker 12: African American scout in NFL history. And from sixty eight 781 00:34:30,468 --> 00:34:32,628 Speaker 12: to ninety eight, the Steelers draft more players from the 782 00:34:32,788 --> 00:34:35,988 Speaker 12: HBCUs than the historically black colleges than any other team 783 00:34:36,268 --> 00:34:37,868 Speaker 12: the NFL. And then they go on to, you know, 784 00:34:37,908 --> 00:34:40,748 Speaker 12: have all that success, and it really was a differentiator. 785 00:34:40,748 --> 00:34:44,548 Speaker 12: And my father saw these young men grow into leaders 786 00:34:44,588 --> 00:34:47,068 Speaker 12: and have such an impact. And then you know, one 787 00:34:47,108 --> 00:34:49,268 Speaker 12: of those guys happens to be this guy named Tony Dungee, 788 00:34:49,828 --> 00:34:53,308 Speaker 12: and Dungee, you know, isn't getting job interviews isn't getting opportunities. 789 00:34:53,348 --> 00:34:56,708 Speaker 12: And my father sees the dehumanizing that's occurring with this 790 00:34:56,788 --> 00:35:00,548 Speaker 12: man who he knows, he knows is so talented, and 791 00:35:00,628 --> 00:35:02,428 Speaker 12: he says, you know, we did it with the team. 792 00:35:02,828 --> 00:35:05,428 Speaker 12: Why can't the league do something like this, especially on 793 00:35:05,468 --> 00:35:08,468 Speaker 12: the level of coaches, general managers, etc. So I think 794 00:35:08,508 --> 00:35:11,708 Speaker 12: that was sort of the motivational factor of the Rooney rule, 795 00:35:11,708 --> 00:35:14,268 Speaker 12: and then there was a whole bunch of technical factors 796 00:35:14,268 --> 00:35:16,148 Speaker 12: of how you put together the process. 797 00:35:16,548 --> 00:35:18,988 Speaker 5: So many good stories, such a good book, The Auto 798 00:35:18,988 --> 00:35:21,868 Speaker 5: Book is out now. I love hearing that he came 799 00:35:21,908 --> 00:35:24,188 Speaker 5: home and smiled after the immaculate reception. 800 00:35:24,588 --> 00:35:26,548 Speaker 2: John Madden not smiling after the immaculate. 801 00:35:26,188 --> 00:35:28,428 Speaker 5: Rus No, not at all. But let's just bring it 802 00:35:28,428 --> 00:35:31,268 Speaker 5: home with this one time. There's so many lessons that 803 00:35:31,308 --> 00:35:33,948 Speaker 5: Steeler fans have learned from the way that he conducted business. 804 00:35:33,948 --> 00:35:36,068 Speaker 5: What was the lesson that he taught you that sticks 805 00:35:36,068 --> 00:35:36,788 Speaker 5: out the most. 806 00:35:37,108 --> 00:35:39,868 Speaker 12: Well, he would always say do the right thing, and 807 00:35:39,948 --> 00:35:42,428 Speaker 12: what he meant by that was, you know, don't don't 808 00:35:42,428 --> 00:35:44,228 Speaker 12: get caught up in the money, don't get caught up 809 00:35:44,228 --> 00:35:46,428 Speaker 12: in fame. Is this the right thing? Are you going 810 00:35:46,508 --> 00:35:48,508 Speaker 12: to impact the people that you work with the people 811 00:35:48,548 --> 00:35:51,108 Speaker 12: in your family in a positive way. So he always 812 00:35:51,148 --> 00:35:52,588 Speaker 12: said do the right thing, and I think that was 813 00:35:52,628 --> 00:35:54,148 Speaker 12: the message I learned most from me. 814 00:35:54,228 --> 00:35:55,908 Speaker 5: I think that's a lost art and it's kind of 815 00:35:55,908 --> 00:35:59,708 Speaker 5: a refreshing lesson. Here a different way to win, Dan 816 00:35:59,788 --> 00:36:01,468 Speaker 5: Rooney Sturf and the Super Bowl to the Rooney Rule. 817 00:36:01,708 --> 00:36:03,148 Speaker 2: A book on Steeler history. 818 00:36:03,228 --> 00:36:05,428 Speaker 5: Is a book on American his If you're looking for 819 00:36:05,468 --> 00:36:08,228 Speaker 5: a Christmas present, this is it. Also, the audiobook is 820 00:36:08,308 --> 00:36:12,028 Speaker 5: out now get it, own it, read it, enjoy it. 821 00:36:12,028 --> 00:36:13,708 Speaker 5: And Roney, this is really cool to meet you. I'm 822 00:36:13,708 --> 00:36:14,748 Speaker 5: glad you came in great. 823 00:36:14,748 --> 00:36:16,948 Speaker 12: Thanks guys, Thanks God having Steelers. 824 00:36:16,948 --> 00:36:18,308 Speaker 2: That's the best, mister Roney. 825 00:36:18,348 --> 00:36:21,428 Speaker 5: Right here, get the book there it is right there, audiobook, 826 00:36:21,468 --> 00:36:23,148 Speaker 5: you got the forward, you got all these clips. 827 00:36:23,188 --> 00:36:25,548 Speaker 2: It's really cool. And the Steelers winning again