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Speaker 1: Jeff Logaman coming up. We have a busy show today,

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Speaker 1: starting off with a franchise tag window tag. You're it.

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Speaker 1: take a look at that group a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: A lot of quarterback news or on the league as well.

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Speaker 1: In the last couple of hours we'll get to some

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Speaker 1: of the tweets there. Dan Edwards will join us in studio.

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Speaker 1: and Jeff Lockman joins us now from his home studio

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Speaker 1: here in Jacksonville Logs. Good afternoon, and here we are

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Speaker 1: again another week of Jaguars Happy Hour. What's up? Uh?

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Speaker 1: First off, you can outied who Who's that? Is that?

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Speaker 1: Again on the intro Joe, Oh, there's a new wrestler,

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Speaker 1: just there bovie or a TV series it's coming out

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Speaker 1: about Andrea. We're losing Jeff Flagman here, Will Uh, we're

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Speaker 1: cutting in and out a little bit with your logs.

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Speaker 1: Will try to get back with you in just a

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Speaker 1: minute and continue our discussion of Andre the Giant, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that's gonna continue a long way here. We've

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Speaker 1: got a lot coming up on the show, a lot

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Speaker 1: going on around the NFL today in quarterback land, and

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Speaker 1: it is it feels kind of nice as the Jaguar

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Speaker 1: to not have to worry about any of this stuff. Right,

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Speaker 1: everybody's talking about all these big name quarterbacks that don't

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Speaker 1: want to play for a certain team. Deshaun Watson apparently

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Speaker 1: met with the Texans head coach last Friday, according to

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Speaker 1: Dan Graziano of ESPN, and in that meeting, Graziano tweeted

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Speaker 1: that Watson reiterated he wants to be traded and told

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Speaker 1: Collie that he has no intention of playing for the Texans. Again,

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Speaker 1: there's no change from Watson's end. And then on the

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Speaker 1: other side of the country, there's a lot going on

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Speaker 1: in Seattle these days as well, with Russell Wilson and

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Speaker 1: his desire to move forward and move on from the Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: A lot going on their logs, so a lot of

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Speaker 1: a lot of changes. But the all we do here

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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville has put our feet up on this table,

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Speaker 1: kick back, relax and get ready for the NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: and the number one overall pick. That's a pretty good

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Speaker 1: feeling not to have to worry about any of this

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Speaker 1: don't have to worry about that number one pick is

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Speaker 1: in hand and secure and one of the great quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: in college football the last three years is available, and

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Speaker 1: and that's a good feeling because it hasn't happened like

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Speaker 1: for training camp. That's the good sign and the good

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Speaker 1: news for Trevor Lawrence. The franchise tag window is open.

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Speaker 1: It opened earlier this week. It's a two week window

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Speaker 1: and as we said on the Huddle Up podcast Wednesday

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Speaker 1: organization at least as Cam Robinson. The number for left

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Speaker 1: tackles is fourteen and a half million dollars. The idea

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Speaker 1: him a year in this offense. See if this offense

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Speaker 1: renegotiate with him next year and sign him to a

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Speaker 1: Everything else in the offensive line. As you heard urban

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Speaker 1: an offensive line that a lot of folks criticized over

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Speaker 1: But in general, there's a feeling around here that they

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Speaker 1: You know, if guys are free agents now J J.

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Speaker 1: He'll discuss his new role. He's been here since before

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Speaker 1: and you know we we lost you a little bit

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Speaker 1: quarterback discussion here. A lot of news today with the

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Speaker 1: I mean you say that, JP, but the reality is too,

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Speaker 1: decades to come, it seems like. But uh, yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: no doubt it. It's certainly nice to have kind of

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Speaker 1: But at the same token, uh, this year in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks that are unhappy. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: it's going to be more change, maybe than any other

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Speaker 1: I mean, it could change. I mean, there's already been

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Speaker 1: And listen to Steve White's talk about the issue with

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Speaker 1: I mean, Deshaun Watson is not the type of person

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Speaker 1: as far as they don't have cap room, they don't

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Speaker 1: King's Ransom to potentially improve multiple areas with your with

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Speaker 1: And especially because of the possibility of the prospect of

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Speaker 1: cut bait, so to speak, and get whatever you can

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Speaker 1: get for him. And I'm sure they're gonna get a

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Speaker 1: traded it all away, Remember they traded away. They traded

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Speaker 1: That's right, he was the guy, and that was that

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Speaker 1: with all this moves JP. That is why they rarely

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Speaker 1: so to speak, with the salary cap that you have

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Speaker 1: a little room to say, let's be cautious here, let's

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Speaker 1: go ahead and use a tag. And what that tag is,

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Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what you could use. Franchise tag,

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Speaker 1: and there's different tags that you can use, but if

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Speaker 1: this past year, and I think that, uh, he's got

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Speaker 1: a great mental makeup, and he's a competitive guy. He's available,

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Speaker 1: he's tough, he's physical. There's a lot of things to like,

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Speaker 1: but you just got to see him get better. And

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Speaker 1: so buying the extra year using a tag or whatever

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Speaker 1: tag you choose to use, I think gives you a

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Speaker 1: the best. And it's a one year situation, so you

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Speaker 1: know he'll be locked in and ready to go, not

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Speaker 1: that he isn't anyway, but you know it's a contract year.

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Speaker 1: Last year and you could tell he came in in

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Speaker 1: in a one year situation. You go play well, then

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Speaker 1: and here's the other thing, uh, and that's gonna have

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Speaker 1: the amounts of the tag are factored off of last

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Speaker 1: year's cap number. Is that realistic to use in one?

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Speaker 1: Some may view that is not being realistic because since

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Speaker 1: the cap is dropping, then using the tag at a

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Speaker 1: cost of fourteen million dollars doesn't make economic sense because

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Speaker 1: the market may say that if he goes to free agency,

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Speaker 1: he's not going to garner fourteen million a year, you know.

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Speaker 1: So I mean that that's what makes this year so

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Speaker 1: a lot of teams that are gonna be cutting players

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Speaker 1: to get under that number. And there's gonna be some

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Speaker 1: players that are going to be cut that are not

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Speaker 1: game or mental makeup or anything like that. It may

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Speaker 1: have nothing to do with that, but purely economics, and

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Speaker 1: so this year is unlike any other, and so there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of things. I think they are going to

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Speaker 1: in free agency. And if you have the cap room,

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Speaker 1: which the Jaguars are going to have the cap room,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a great opportunity in the marketplace because

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Speaker 1: you are one of the few teams in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League that are gonna have money, and the players

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Speaker 1: that are gonna be available aren't going to be players

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Speaker 1: with issue necessarily. Some of them are going to be

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Speaker 1: great players that the team loves, but that these can't

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Speaker 1: keep them. You can't keep them at the number that

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Speaker 1: they were at. And the Jaguars are gonna have some

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Speaker 1: cap room to be able to improve their team in

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Speaker 1: a quick fashion unlike any other year in the past.

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Speaker 1: shift our focus now to the tight end position. We

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Speaker 1: touched on this in an earlier podcast this week as

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Speaker 1: well with Bucky Brooks. Why is it so darned difficult

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Speaker 1: to figure out the tight end position, and it feels

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Speaker 1: like that around the league, but certainly here this has

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Speaker 1: not been the easiest road. They've gone the free agency

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Speaker 1: rout a couple of times, Julius Thomas, Austin's Verion Jenkins,

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Speaker 1: those guys didn't work out. The draft picks either have

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Speaker 1: so you haven't seen much out of him. There was

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Speaker 1: that just hasn't worked out. And now news Tyler Eiffort

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Speaker 1: option according to the reports this week on Effort, who

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Speaker 1: was a free agency edition last year, So the remaining

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Speaker 1: tight ends on the roster here, you know, we're can

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Speaker 1: at it on Jaguars dot com right now on video.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Davis, who was a draft pick last year, two targets,

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Speaker 1: no catches. Effort was the leading tight end receiver three

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Speaker 1: nine yards a couple of touchdowns. Ben Ellefson had four targets,

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Speaker 1: one catch. O'Shaughnessy coming back from the knee issue, twenty

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Speaker 1: eight catches, two hundred and sixty two yards. Josh Oliver

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Speaker 1: didn't play. Eric Sobert had four targets, So if you

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Speaker 1: take away effort, it's really you're rethinking this room. At

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Speaker 1: some point it feels like, well, yeah, possibly, and you know,

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Speaker 1: you hope that Josh Oliver, which many people would say, Josh,

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Speaker 1: who who's at? Where did he come from? People probably

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Speaker 1: in the first two years of the National Football League

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Speaker 1: since being a and what was he a third or

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Speaker 1: fourth round draft pick? Third round pick, third round nineteen? Yes, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I mean you hope he's able to stay healthy

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Speaker 1: and and maybe show you something there. But now the

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Speaker 1: reality is why is it so hard? And then that's

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Speaker 1: the kind of the original question that you ask, why

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Speaker 1: is it so hard for teams to solve the tight

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Speaker 1: end position? Well, the fact is is that it's a

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Speaker 1: it's a unique position because you're trying to acquire somebody

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Speaker 1: that has a skill set that can do a lot

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Speaker 1: of different things. One be a great receiver and be

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Speaker 1: a matchup nightmare for defensive coordinators because they can block,

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Speaker 1: and then also they can catch like a wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: So you want somebody that can block alog alignment and

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Speaker 1: can catch like a wide receiver. There in lies the

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Speaker 1: issue with the matchup problem with the tight end, and

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Speaker 1: they just don't make Kelsey's Travis Kelsey's every day. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's a he's a unique talent. He's one of the

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Speaker 1: best in the league. And so, first of all, it's

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Speaker 1: hard to find the the athletes that do that, and

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Speaker 1: when you do find them, they are certainly coveted. But

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Speaker 1: I think this year you're gonna be able to find

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Speaker 1: some in free agency because of the economic situation that

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Speaker 1: I talked about earlier. The Tennessee Titans have a tight

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Speaker 1: end who who I talked about early in the season

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Speaker 1: in the matchup against the Tennessee Titans who I said

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Speaker 1: that I thought he was one of the best young

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Speaker 1: tight ends in football. And uh and I think he

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Speaker 1: And what is his name? JP? The guy for the tense,

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Speaker 1: John H. Smith. He's got speed, he's got blocking ability,

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Speaker 1: he's tenacious. He had some issues with injury, but when

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Speaker 1: this guy is healthy, he is fantastic. And if he's

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Speaker 1: a guy that's available in free agency, for me, I'm

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Speaker 1: taking a strong look at him and and Tyler Eiffort.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the option is for as far

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Speaker 1: as the dollar amount, but Tyler Eiffert I thought was

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Speaker 1: good for the Jaguars this past year. But essentially, Tyler

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Speaker 1: Eiffert has a history of injury. He's getting older. Now

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Speaker 1: you need to find somebody that you're tight end that's young,

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Speaker 1: that can create the matchup issues. Because the fact of

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Speaker 1: the matter is that none of the tight ends that

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Speaker 1: you just showed, none of those guys create a matchup

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Speaker 1: issue for any defensive coordinator in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: And that's what you got to get out of the

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00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: such an integral part of the Jaguars organization. He's been

852
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: a great personal friend of mine and and also a

853
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: great professional friend of mine for many years. You know,

854
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: when when I stopped playing for the Jaguars, which my

855
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: last season was, and then in ninety nine, I started

856
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: working with Dan because I started doing some of the

857
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: television stuff for the Jaguars and also the preseason television games.

858
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: And then that obviously changed later on and that I

859
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,479
Speaker 1: started adding more responsibility more radio shows and eventually moved

860
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: into the the broadcast booth in two thousand and three.

861
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: And and Dan has been my boss every year, so

862
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: essentially from until yesterday when it was announced that he

863
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: was moving, he's been my boss. And he's been awesome

864
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: and uh and and I feel lucky to be able

865
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 1: to call him a great friend and on more importantly

866
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,439
Speaker 1: than that, he's a great guy, and he's a great man,

867
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: and he has raised wonderful kids and they have all

868
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: become great assets to the Jacksonville community and other communities

869
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: that they choose to live in now. So Jacksonville has

870
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: been very fortunate to have a man of the stature

871
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: of Dan Edwards and uh and glad to say that

872
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 1: are here that he's gonna be transitioning to a new

873
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: role that will even create a lot more excitement with

874
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: the veterans and and the alumni of the Jaguars and

875
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,959
Speaker 1: also interact with the community even more. Man, I can't

876
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: wait for all that, no doubt. And it's great to

877
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: hear from him and see him on on our cameras

878
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: here and they were right around the office from each other.

879
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,919
Speaker 1: But it's not with the COVID this year. I didn't

880
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: see a lot of them, and then you know that

881
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: just that that's the way it was this year. But

882
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see a lot a lot more

883
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: Dan Edwards out and about in the community, doing speaking

884
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: events and representing the team and doing a lot of things.

885
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,479
Speaker 1: So that's good news for the Jacksonville Jaguars for sure.

886
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: Amy Palsick, he takes over as the vice president of Communications.

887
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: She will report directly to urban Meyer and Trent and

888
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: Bulky and she is in the building. She arrived yesterday

889
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: and is here and is on duty. So at some

890
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: point I think maybe we'll reach out and try to

891
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 1: have her on here as well, just to introduce her

892
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: to the Jacksonville market. She's been in this division obviously

893
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: for a long time with Houston Texans and did a

894
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: fantastic job there with that. They won the Roselle Award

895
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: back in seventeen under her watch, and she was really responsible.

896
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: J J. Watt was responsible. But she had a huge

897
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 1: hand in the Hurricane Harvey efforts that j. J. Watt

898
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: put together after that storm down in Houston, and she

899
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: was run out of the organization part of that. So

900
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: much change that's happened over there in the last few months,

901
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: and pretty much unanimous. You're being very kind right there

902
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: by the way, you're being very kind. You're being very

903
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: kind about it. You know, she was run out of

904
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 1: Houston essentially the the clown show that Houston has become

905
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: fired Amy and made the statement that essentially that her values,

906
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: you know, etcetera. Doesn't match with the Texans and they're

907
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: going in a different direction. It just goes to show

908
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: you how the Texans have become so dysfunctional when you

909
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: let good people go, I mean, you go from winning

910
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: the award one of the best pr staffs in the

911
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: National Football League to be an ousted. How does that happen? Uh,

912
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: if you really knew the details. Yeah, their loss is

913
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: the Jaguars game though, and pretty much unanimous you around

914
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: the NFL media landscape, this is is being praised and

915
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: she has a track record of success. So that's good

916
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: news for the Jacksonville Jaguars. We're looking forward to working

917
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 1: with her. Let's go around the National Football League and yes,

918
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: there have been some changes today in the NFL. Defensive

919
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: tackle Darrell Casey released by the Broncos. That breeds up

920
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: twelve million dollars against the cap with the Broncos in

921
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 1: one He's thirty one years old. We know what he's

922
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: done to this franchise when he was with the Titans.

923
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: Would you take a shot at him? Well, I think

924
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: he wanted want to find out where he's at and

925
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: how his health is. Because when Darrell Casey has played

926
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: the Jaguars over the years, he is is a donminant

927
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: force and is one of those quick twitch guys at

928
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: the three technique defensive tackle. The Jaguars certainly have a

929
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: need at defensive tackle, so you would absolutely kick the

930
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: tires and talked to Darrell Casey and his people to

931
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: see where he's at health wise, because he is he's

932
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 1: a good football player. JP. He can he can rush

933
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: the passer from the inside that I'd just like to

934
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: know more about his health. Adam Humphries waived by the

935
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans, the wide receiver after two seasons with the club.

936
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 1: There he had two years left on his four year

937
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: deal and it clears up about four and at four

938
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: and a half a million dollars of cap space, but

939
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: some dead money left in that as well. Three catches

940
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: two or twenty yards two touchdowns last year, but he

941
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: was on the COVID list off and on all season long.

942
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: What do you think about Adam Humphries, Well, I mean,

943
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: I think he's a perfect example of what you're gonna

944
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: see JP from other teams. You're gonna see some really

945
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: good football players that are available. And the reality is

946
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: is that a lot of teams are are looking at

947
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:53,240
Speaker 1: players not from the standpoint of productivity, but they're looking

948
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: at him strictly as a numbers game and that they've

949
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: got to find a way to get under the cap,

950
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: and they're looking at the quickest way that they can

951
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: do that in the least painful way that they can

952
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: do that. So players that have um that represent a

953
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: big savings from a cap standpoint, that don't aren't gonna

954
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 1: represent or don't have a lot of dead money to

955
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: hold against the team in the future, their candidates to

956
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: be cut. And it has nothing to do with the

957
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: quality of the player, just has to do with their

958
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: number that's associated with the salary cap. So Adam Humphreys

959
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: is a guy that you're absolutely gonna have a conversation with.

960
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of other players around the league

961
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,240
Speaker 1: that they are going to be in the same position

962
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: that the Jaguars are going to have an opportunity to

963
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: talk with. And a good thing is too. I think

964
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: in this climate, in this market, you're gonna end up

965
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: getting some really good deals in this market. Whenever they

966
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: figure out what the cap number is actually going to be,

967
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 1: I think a lot of these deals will start getting

968
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: done and moving ahead. Just don't really know the full

969
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,720
Speaker 1: playing field right now in terms of numbers. John Lands

970
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: to forty Liners GM has no doubt. He says that

971
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garop little star for the forty niners next year, well,

972
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 1: he better start for the forty oiners, because when he does,

973
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: they're really good. Logs. There twenty four and nine, including

974
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: postseason games when Garoppolo starts, and there's seven and nineteen

975
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: when he doesn't start since he's been traded over from

976
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: New England. He better be there. I mean, look, what

977
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: else is John Lynch is gonna say. I mean, he's

978
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: gonna say that because right now that Garoppolo is his quarterback.

979
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 1: And if all of a sudd Jimmy Garoppolo is gonna

980
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: not be his quarterback, then John Lynch is gonna sing

981
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: a different tuo. And it's kind of similar to what

982
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: the Rams situation is, and that Sean McVeigh who was

983
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: just gushing about, you know, coaching Jared Goff and being

984
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 1: hitched together with Jared Goff for the for the future,

985
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: and then boom, all of a sudden, you have a

986
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: situation that's soured for Jared Golf with the Rams, and

987
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,959
Speaker 1: then he gets shipped off Matthew Stafford, and that trade

988
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 1: is gonna get executed when the league calendar year star.

989
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: So things can change rather quickly. And I don't put

990
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: too much into what a general manager might say about

991
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: his quarterback right now, because if all of a sudden,

992
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: John Lynch can gain a Deshaun Watson and have it

993
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: not cost him a whole bunch of money and ship

994
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo offted Houston, Texans. You know what John Lytz

995
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: is gonna be saying, you know what, it was just

996
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 1: too good to pass up. We you know, we couldn't

997
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: turn it down to be able to get a player

998
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: of the statue of Deshaun Watson. And for Jimmy Garoppolo goes,

999
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna be history, you know. So they'll hang tight

1000
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: on what all these guys are saying right now, because

1001
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: when the business starts, the business starts. J J. Watt

1002
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: still a free agent, and there's a report today that

1003
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:51,919
Speaker 1: he has multiple contract offers. Diana Rossini of ESPN dot

1004
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: Com says that the most lucrative offer of what has

1005
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: on the table is believed to be worth between fifteen

1006
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: and sixteen million dollars. Well, it's interesting since there's no

1007
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: salary cap number yet. I'm curious if that will be

1008
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: the real deal and what it will be once it

1009
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: comes time to sign that piece of paper. Yeah, that

1010
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: sounds a little bit high to me. I think it

1011
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: maybe fifteen or sixteen million if he reaches a lot

1012
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: of incentives. But in my opinion, J. J. Watt is

1013
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 1: not worth fifteen or sixteen million dollars anymore if you

1014
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: look at his level of play the last couple of years. So,

1015
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 1: but I know that he can provide a great positive

1016
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: force for football team. But for me, if if I'm

1017
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 1: making the call, I don't think I'm getting fifteen million

1018
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: dollars worth out of J. J. Watt. So, and I

1019
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: think you know a lot of things when you when

1020
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: you hear a report like that JP. A lot of

1021
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: that is agent driven, where the agent is putting that

1022
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,879
Speaker 1: information out to try to push the number up by

1023
00:56:55,880 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: all the other teams that are interested in his services. Oh,

1024
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: he knows that Jeff Logaman was about twenty years too

1025
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: late or so, it's a free agency five years or so. Everybody.

1026
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: Everybody's saying that JP the guy. The guys that were

1027
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: in the league when when I came in, we're saying

1028
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: the same thing, just like I was saying the same

1029
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: thing the guys that came in the league as I

1030
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: was leaving, like a Fred Taylor, And the amount of

1031
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: money that those guys could make and you know, the

1032
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: the the economics of the NFL has just grown exponentially,

1033
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: it seems like every year, and so the guys of

1034
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: today might be saying the same thing about the guys

1035
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: that entered the league, and you know, I mean said,

1036
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: that's just the way the league is. Growth has been

1037
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: and has been tremendous. So there you're having our look

1038
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: around the National Football League. And as we said the

1039
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: Jacks broadcast we can review podcast coming up tomorrow and

1040
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: then uh, maybe a relatively quiet weekend, and then we're

1041
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: on the next week, and the the next week the

1042
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: franchise tag window, and then we're coming up on a

1043
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: couple of weeks away from free agency. So here we go.

1044
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: This is really the calm before the storm logs of

1045
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: the off season really really beginning. Yeah, and then uh,

1046
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: and once you get to the start of the league

1047
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: year and free agency and then the build up to

1048
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: the draft, things kind of get get fast and hot.

1049
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: But I think it's also going to be interesting to

1050
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: see what the league ends up doing about the off season.

1051
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be like it was last year where

1052
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: there really wasn't an off season, or are they going

1053
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: to have things that are all strictly virtual or are

1054
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,439
Speaker 1: they going to try to do some type of mini

1055
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: camp where they can gather in an institute a short

1056
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: period of testing to keep players safe for a mini camp.

1057
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: You know it's gonna be interesting exactly to see what happens.

1058
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: But the amazing thing is the league adjusted last year

1059
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: and proved that it can It can make things happen

1060
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: without having all of those things. But for the jaguars sake,

1061
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: with a rookie quarterback coming in, you hope that you

1062
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: can have some of all season that is able to

1063
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: happen post draft for a young quarterback that's coming into

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. That's where it's very difficult for

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Speaker 1: teams that that have a lot of youth, and then

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Speaker 1: Jaguars are gonna have a lot of youth, and it

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Speaker 1: certainly didn't help them out last year, as you can

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Speaker 1: see by the results that they ended up having by

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Speaker 1: having all that youth that didn't pay any dividends for

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Speaker 1: the season. So you would like to have as many

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Speaker 1: opportunities at getting better prior to the start of training

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Speaker 1: camp and the season for a young roster and a

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Speaker 1: first time NFL head coach and Urban Meyer, lugs Well said,

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Speaker 1: have a great to you again next week or thanks

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Speaker 1: to Dan Edwards. I'm JP Shadrick and this is Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour of the Jaguars Digital Network.