WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: Dr. Phibes Rises Again 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:08.800 Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:15.920 Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. My name is Rob. 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:18.040 Lamb and I am Joe McCormick. 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:20.600 So we had a lot of fun last year discussing 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:26.040 nineteen seventy one's The Abominable Doctor Fibes, a deliriously fun 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:29.960 and weird horror camp fest, so I figured it was 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:33.160 time to come back around and enjoy the continuing adventures 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:38.040 of everyone's favorite music and theology doctor turned murderous mastermind, 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:39.479 Doctor Fibes. 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:43.479 So this is the sequel, the nineteen seventy two film 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:48.080 Doctor Fibes rises again, once again starring Vincent Price. 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:51.640 Yeah. Pretty quick turnaround too. Yeah. From seventy one to 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:55.560 seventy two, Fibes got right back in the fight. And 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:58.560 as we'll discuss, like, there wasn't a a lot of 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:01.800 time left for five for five sequel to happen. You know, 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:05.640 this is the tail end of the of the public's 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:10.120 consumption of kind of more gothic horror fare, and so 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:13.080 it looks like there were higher hopes for where the 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:15.479 franchise could have gone. But at least we got one 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:18.319 more picture and it's it is quite a lie. 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:21.759 So looking online, I have seen a lot of reviewers 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:25.520 commenting that this one's okay, but it's not nearly as 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:29.840 good as the original, or in general unfavorably comparing it 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.920 to the original. And I'm maybe I'm an outlier here, 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:34.959 but I got to say, I think I enjoyed this 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:38.920 at least as much as the first movie. It's I 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:41.399 can see where the flaws would come in. There are 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:44.759 some repetitive elements to it, Like you know, when Fibes 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:47.600 starts monologuing, he's usually just saying the same thing he's 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:51.040 already said before, but still, like, I never wanted it 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:54.760 to stop. It's just it's just like a great vibe. 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:57.080 It's almost like a music video, you know, It's more 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:59.880 of an experience. If you're really hooked on every detail 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:03.680 the plot, you might well be kind of disappointed, be like, yeah, 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:06.440 we already know this information, or I don't know why 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.400 this character is doing this. You put all that aside. 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:12.560 If you're in the mood for vibes, vibes, it will 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:15.320 bring them, and it will bring them in a delicious way. 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:19.760 Yeah, I mean, is this Vincent Price's finest performance? You know? 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:22.160 But in many ways, no, Like, you can look at 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:25.440 something like Mask of the Red Death, which we discussed 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:28.520 in the show, and like, that's a superb Vincent Price 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:32.600 villain performance. That is, you know, it's very grounded and 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:35.880 believable and you can see the wheels moving and so forth. 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:39.160 This is still a great Vincent Price performance. It is 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:43.120 tremendously entertaining every time you hear him, every time he's 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:46.079 on the screen, but it is a far different sort 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:51.079 of performance. It is an unbelievable character in an unbelievable film. 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:53.760 Yeah, this is the opposite end of the Price spectrum. 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:56.440 I mean, Vincent Price is often thought of as a 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:59.200 ham which he absolutely was and could ham it up 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:03.640 the greatest of all time at hamming really, But with 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:06.160 Mask of the Red Death it revealed his other side, 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:08.160 which is he can actually be a quite subtle actor 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:11.520 when he wants to be, and he had a lot 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:15.360 of subtlety to his character there. There was a powerful 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:18.560 understatedness to the way he realized evil in Mask of 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:21.960 the Red Death. In this movie, yeahs he is trying 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:25.920 to be funny, and he is extremely funny, especially because 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:30.120 of all the actors you could cast as a character 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:34.560 who doesn't move his mouth when he talks. Vincent Price 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:37.600 is like the weirdest choice there. So this is a 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:42.080 character that has to essentially speak through an external mechanism. 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:44.760 We'll describe this later when we get into the plot. 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:48.480 But so like every time Vincent Price talks in this movie, 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:51.960 he's just making faces with his mouth closed while like 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.480 a voiceover narration plays in your ears. 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.880 Yeah, he's moving his throat a bit, and at times 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.320 I wondered, and I should have looked at into this. 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:02.480 I'm sure the answer is out there to see whether 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:06.520 he was actually like mouthing or sort of internally using 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:11.520 the dialogue, because while perhaps unnecessary for this this sort 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:14.560 of movie, Vincent Price also has that kind of that 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:16.960 professional air to him that I would not be surprised 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.120 at all if he was doing that. Like he as 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:22.200 we discussed in the last picture, you know, he knew 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:24.359 not only his lines, but the lines of all the 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:27.000 other characters he was interacting with. So he was a 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:31.480 consonant pro. But yeah, it is. It is always interesting 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:35.279 how the Fibes character disconnects him from his own voice 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:38.120 and yet at the same time, especially in this film, 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:40.760 and I guess in the first one too, allows all 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:44.320 of his lines to be introduction or you know, the 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:48.479 spoken word part of thriller level of campiness, Like he 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:51.240 just gets to really get in there and grind it out. 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.440 That's right. And I so it's been a while since 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:57.480 I've seen the original Vibes. I didn't like rewatch it 0:04:57.520 --> 0:04:59.440 before we watched this movie, but I think it would 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:03.479 be interesting to compare the performances in the two movies 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:06.479 to see if he really changed his approach to the 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:10.200 character at all. I feel like he may be leaning 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:13.479 a bit more into the overt comedy in this one 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:15.880 though the first movie, don't get me wrong, is it 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.880 is quite intentionally funny. The first movie isn't like taking 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:21.760 itself real seriously or anything. But I think in this 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:24.320 one he seems to be going even deeper into the 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:25.280 ham territory. 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:27.840 I think that might well be the case. And I 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:30.760 also feel like in the first Fibes movie there were 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:35.799 more genuine moments of terror, or at least one key 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:39.600 sequence of terror, in particular towards the end where you're like, Oh, 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:43.280 I don't know what's gonna happen. Less so in this picture. 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:45.719 But yeah, but not in a way that detracts from it. 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:50.400 It doubles down on the absurdity on the like the 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:56.360 celebration of doctor Fibes the amazing murders as the movie 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:59.240 itself describes them. So that's what we get in this picture. 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:01.880 But there's a another way in which I think this 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:04.920 sequel works quite well, and in some ways you could 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:08.320 argue even steps up the game of the original. In 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:12.640 the original movie, I don't recall Fibes really having an 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:17.760 antagonist worthy of him at all, and this movie does 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:21.760 give him that, and he sort of has a structural antagonist. 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:24.880 It's arguable whether you would call either one of them 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.400 the hero or the villain of the story. But this 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:31.240 movie introduces a character named Darius bider Beck, who is 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:34.200 a great foil to Vincent Price because they bring in 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:36.560 an actor who can also ham it up in a way. 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:40.240 Yeah, and the character is capable enough to take on 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:44.320 Doctor Fibes, you know, in a way that threatens the 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:47.120 plans of doctor Fibes in a way that we didn't 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:51.359 see in the first film, and also has expertise that 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:54.799 seems to at least rival that of Fibes in their 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:57.800 their given area. That becomes the central to plot, which 0:06:57.800 --> 0:06:59.920 is of course ancient Egyptian secret. 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:03.080 Oh yeah, so more to come on that now. 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:05.000 Quick note, this is the first time in Weird House 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:07.680 Cinema that we have covered a direct sequel to a 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:11.360 movie we've already covered. I think the closest we've come 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:16.440 before concerned the Friday the Thirteenth franchise, where we watched 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.640 Jason Takes Manhattan and then later we covered Jason X. 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:23.560 But those are not sequential films by any stretch. 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:27.440 Oh no, there is, unfortunately a Jason Goes to Hell 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:30.680 in between them, and I would not say that it's 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:34.840 like you need to see Jason Takes Manhattan to understand 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:37.840 all the nuances of Jason X. In fact, I would 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:40.160 not say that about the Fibes movies either. I think 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:43.640 you could watch these in either order. It really wouldn't matter. 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:49.200 But yeah, this is kind of interesting that we've covered 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.800 a lot of two's without covering the one. This is 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:53.880 the first time we've ever done the one and the two. 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:57.520 Yeah. Yeah, And so it's always interesting to think about sequals. Well, 0:07:57.560 --> 0:07:59.120 we've talked about this plenty of times, like why are 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:01.640 you making a sequel? Like what are you trying to do? 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:04.640 In addition to, of course, make money. You know, are 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:06.960 you looking to deliver more of what worked? Are you 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:09.680 expanding the world, are you digging deeper into the characters, 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:12.680 are you turning some concept on its head, or you know, 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:16.080 recreating something for a different audience. I mean that there's 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.240 all of these are valid, and there are many more 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:23.280 ways that sequels are carried out. This one really does 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:26.080 feel like, hey, last year we had a party called 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:30.880 the Abominable Doctor Fibes. Let's throw that party again. Let's 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:35.320 stick with what works, and hey, everyone's invited, and yeah, 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.120 I think along those lines they pulled it off. Like 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:40.880 is it gonna feel as fresh as the first film? 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:43.440 Maybe not, but it's still going to pack some surprises. 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:45.959 It's still fun. It sticks to the tone, it sticks 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:49.280 with what works, and there's not a lot else out 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:52.480 there that compares to it. So it's not like you 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:55.120 making a you know, a mundane sequel to an already 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:57.520 mundane horror movie. Like it was already a party. 0:08:57.960 --> 0:08:59.960 I would agree with all that, though, I would say 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.880 it's kind of like if the party you had last 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:06.040 year was like a related to a one time event, 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:09.040 like it was a graduation party, and then the next 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.400 year you're not graduating anything, But you're like, let's have 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:15.880 that party again, because plot wise, the first movie is 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:21.000 about doctor Fibes putting together these ludicrous, over the top 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:26.880 revenge murders, and they were all about getting revenge against 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:30.800 I believe it was the doctors who let his wife, 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:34.600 who he believed were responsible for his wife dying after 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:36.920 an accident, like the doctors were unable to save her, 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:39.920 So he's getting revenge on all of them. In other words, 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:44.480 there's a reason for the occasion. This movie reproduces the 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:49.079 elaborate murders, except there is no motive of revenge in them. 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:53.600 I think basically all of the victims in Fibes Rises 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:57.240 Again have done nothing that could even really be construed 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:00.480 as offending Fibes or his wife Victoria. They're just like 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:02.560 random people who happen to be around. 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:06.719 Yeah, and he has just elaborate death contraptions lined up 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:09.920 for people to get in his way because that's the 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.200 kind of artist that he is. 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:15.079 So yes, it is like revisiting a graduation party when 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:18.679 nobody's graduating, but like, I don't know, if it was 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:20.640 a really great party, why not do it again? And 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:22.400 so that's how I feel about this movie. 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:24.480 Now to your point too, In the first film, all 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:28.120 of the not all the movies, all the murders were 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:32.040 patterned after the different plagues of Egypt. Oh, yes, so 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:35.120 there was a theological theme to each one. This time, 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:38.880 I don't think there's a theological theme. There's kind of 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:42.000 an animal theme to them, I guess. And I do 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:47.439 have one potential question, like one conspiracy theory if you will, 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:49.640 about the plot. We'll get into that later. 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:54.320 Well, I've seen the murders in this movie described as quote, 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:59.200 desert themed. I I don't know if that applies to 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:01.680 all of them, but I guess maybe some of them. 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:07.560 Yeah. Now, originally there were plans for more parties of 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:11.280 this nature. American International Pictures initially intended this to be 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:14.680 the first of many fib sequels, including a Bride's of 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:19.840 Doctor FIBs movie and possible crossover films within the American 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:24.320 International Pictures horror universe, namely a Fibes Versus count Yorga 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.000 movie more on this in a bit, But none of 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:31.120 that happened. Again, there were shifts in what the public 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:34.680 wanted from horror. There were shifts at American International Pictures, 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:38.120 and so this was the last Fibes picture that we 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:42.199 actually got those I'll discussed there are some novels out there. 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:45.160 So if you want to really dig in your heels 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:48.600 and enjoy more Anton fibes, well, there are ways to 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:48.920 do it. 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:50.880 So we have some trailer audio to hit. 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:53.600 Yeah, we have the old radio spot for Doctor Fibes 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:55.240 Rises again. Let's hear it. 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:05.080 Flesh calls, blood curdles, the coffin hasn't been built that 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:12.720 can hold him. Doctor fives Rises again, five way. Doctor 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:16.280 Five's Rises again in an even more startling motion picture 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:19.640 with a whole new gallery of gruesome gimmicks. 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:20.920 Of torture and murder. 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:27.760 See the scorpions Embrace, the Eagle's caress the sausage Machine. 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.640 See Doctor Five's I'll duel his enemies with the most 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:37.640 diabolical devices ever created. See Doctor Five's Rises Again, starring 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.800 Vincent Price as the menacing Fives and Robert Quarry as 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:45.720 the evil bider Becker. Doctor Five's Rises Again, All new 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.680 from American International Pictures, rated FIGI. 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:49.920 Parental guiding suggested. 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:52.280 Doctor Fives Rises Again. 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:02.400 All right, does that make you want to drive to 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:03.400 your local cinema? 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:06.319 Yeah, you can smell the popcorn listening to that. 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:09.200 Certainly, if you get the chance to see it at 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:13.040 the cinema, I'd absolutely go for it. But let's talk 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:16.360 availability in general. Yeah, as with the first film, the 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:20.400 sequel is widely available for digital rental or streaming, as 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:24.520 well as part of an excellent KL Studio Classics double 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:28.320 feature Blu ray Doctor Fives double features what it's called. 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:30.360 It has some fun extras on it. They have it 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:32.360 at Video Drum here in Atlanta, and you can pick 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:34.320 it up for like twenty odd box if you just 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:36.719 buy it from most retailers, which I think is a 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:39.320 steal for both movies, and again you get to own 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:41.640 it as physical media at that point. I watched it 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:43.720 on the KL release rented from the Drum. 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:47.319 Yeah, I streamed it. It's available in multiple places. 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:50.440 Yeah. I think I started watching it several weeks back 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:52.880 on a flight. I like downloaded to my phone before 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:54.320 I had a flight because I was like, this is 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:57.439 exactly the kind of popcorn. This is the kind of 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:01.160 candy I need when I'm flying something like Doctor Fhibes. 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:10.920 Okay, let's do those connections. 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.160 All right, Starting at the top. The director and writer 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:16.120 on this one is Robert Fwest nineteen twenty seven through 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:19.720 twenty twelve, a British director noted for his unique genre style, 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.760 returning here to direct a sequel to nineteen seventy one's 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:27.600 The Abominable Doctor Fibes. It should come as no surprise 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.080 that he came up through the Avengers TV show before 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:33.520 making such features as nineteen Seventies and Soon The Darkness, 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:37.360 a thriller, a nineteen seventy adaptation of Wuthering Heights with 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:41.440 Timothy Dalton as Heathcliff, followed by the two Doctor Phibes films, 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:44.880 nineteen seventy three's The Final Program, based on a Michael 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:49.160 Moorcock novel starring John Finch, and then nineteen seventy five's 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:52.280 The Devil's Rain, which we previously covered on Weird House 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:55.000 Cinema as well, and after that mostly TV. 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.440 Oh I forgot that he did The Devil's Reign. 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:01.960 Yeah Yeah, which is a different type of feel, but 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.760 also one that just really goes all out, at least 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:07.840 in certain sequences when it comes to like just the 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:11.080 visual flare and just the absurd weirdness of everything. 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:15.920 All three of these are texture based movies. I would 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:19.400 say they're not strongly story driven. They are driven by 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:24.400 contriving interesting set pieces and scenarios and letting you look 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:27.400 at them and enjoy the music and the costumes and 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:30.840 the sets and all that. Absolutely, however, I will say 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:34.080 I think his two Fibes movies are without a doubt, 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:35.720 much better than The Devil's Rain. 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:41.200 Yeah. Yeah, The Devil's Rain is irresistible as a satanic 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:46.320 desert melt movie, but I think Fibes the Fibes films 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:47.840 have broader appeal. 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:50.160 Yeah. So the way I would put it is The 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:52.840 Devil's Rain I think needs to be seen as like 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:56.920 an artifact, like you should experience it for your edification 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.960 and education. But the Fibes movies are just great. 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:04.320 Yeah. Now the other writer on this, the other credited 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:07.800 writer is Robert Bleeze, who lived nineteen eighteen through twenty fifteen. 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:10.600 American writer and producer with screenplay credits going back to 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:14.040 the early forties, including the fifty seven monster film, The 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:17.000 Black Scorpion, fifty Eights from Earth to the Moon, Oh 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:20.600 in nineteen seventy two's Frogs, which we watched on Weird 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:21.400 House a while back. 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:25.760 Hmmmm, this guy, I think I know his mo This 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:28.120 guy really likes animal attacks. 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:31.280 He's all about it. Apparently. His TV credits include episodes 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:34.200 of such shows as Alfred Hitchcock Presents, Peter Gunn Colombo, 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:36.359 Project UFO, and Airwolf. 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.480 I wonder if his episodes of those shows had animals 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:40.480 attacking people. 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.760 I wonder, Yeah, especially ad Alfred Hitchcock Presents seems like 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:46.440 an ideal place to have some animal related murder. It's 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:47.640 always a nice twist. 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:51.000 Yeah. His episode of Airwolf is like, oh no, there's 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:52.920 a killer centipede in the cockpit. 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:58.640 Yeah. Now, there's also based on characters created by credit 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:04.240 for William Goldstein and James Witten. They were the writers 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:09.800 on the original Doctor Fibes film, and I should point 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:14.000 out that Goldstein apparently wrote a screenplay off his own 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:19.680 for the sequel with the working title Fibus Resurrectus, which 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.320 would have been amazing, but that was not the direction 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:22.800 they went in. 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:25.160 I'm glad you said it that way, Rob, because I could. 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:25.439 So. 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:29.359 The name is pronounced in the movie Fibes, but like, 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:34.000 you can't call it Fibes resurrect us and pronounce it fibes, right, 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:36.920 It would have to be like fibus or Phoebus resurrectus. 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:41.080 Yeah. So, while this sequel didn't see the light of day. 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:45.679 Goldstein wrote the novelization of Doctor Fibes Rises again, just 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:47.760 as he written as he's written the novelization for the 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:50.840 first film. And what's more, while we didn't get any 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:54.520 more Doctor Fhibes movies, he also wrote three additional Doctor 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:58.560 Fibes novels which are out there and available. So, like 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:00.240 I say, if you really want to go all in 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:02.720 on the Fibes franchise, you have to continue doing so 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:03.960 with the written word. 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:07.760 It is difficult for me to imagine that the Fibes 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:11.679 concept would work as well as a novel. Yeah, it 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:14.399 seems really to rely on the magic of cinema. 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:16.920 Yeah, I mean, unless say, the texture of the writing 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:20.040 would have to be just right, all right. As we mentioned, yes, 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:24.239 Vincent Price returns as Doctor Anton Fibes. We're not going 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:27.720 to go deep into Vincent Price because we've covered Vincent 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:31.359 Price films multiple times already. But he lived nineteen eleven 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:35.639 through nineteen ninety three. This is early seventies Price, so 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:38.480 this is a time period when he's hitting some really 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:42.120 iconic roles. But he's also this is all also happening 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:44.439 just as the public's taste in horror films is shifting 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:47.159 away from the traditional and the Gothic and everything that 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:50.760 came before. So he really only had a handful of 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:54.159 full blown Vincent Price starring horror films left in the 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:58.320 tank at this point. But he'd also already cemented himself 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:01.720 as a horror legend and a mainstream icons, so there 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:05.119 was no shortage of work from here on out. The 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:08.679 main films of note horror wise were Theater of Blood, 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.560 to follow in seventy three, Matt Howson seventy four. Oh, 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:13.800 Theater of Blood, Yes, you're a f I haven't seen 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:14.120 that one. 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:17.480 Oh yeah, it's in fact, it's much like Doctor Fibes. 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:23.280 It is a campy, theatrical horror comedy that has elaborate 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:27.600 revenge murders. It extremely similar to Fibes actually, all. 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:29.800 Right, and then there's a House of Long Shadows in 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:33.320 eighty three, and that's not counting some anthology hosting roles, 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:37.600 and so yeah, from this point out, he's just he's 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:39.600 doing a lot of TV appearances, he's doing a lot 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:42.679 of appearances as himself, and of course he's doing a 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:45.159 lot of those endorsements, right. 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:52.760 Oh yeah, the the no Jelly sandwiches. Yeah. Man. 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:56.439 When we've covered about the show, we often discuss some 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:59.480 of these particular things, yeah, like the no jelly that 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:03.879 he endorsed. And I want to point out one that 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:08.040 recently captivated me is that in what is This nineteen 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:12.960 seventy two, the Anglestora Bitters Company ran an ad in 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:16.439 The New York Times with a cutout coupon that you 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:20.200 could send through the mail to receive a free Angostar 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:24.639 of Bitters cookbook written and or hosted by Vincent Price 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:29.560 What Yeah Yeah. And elsewhere they ran ads featuring Vincent 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:33.560 prize and maybe a recipe right up or two. It's 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:35.720 worth noting that he also wrote at least a couple 0:20:35.760 --> 0:20:39.399 of cookbooks with his wife, Mary Cooking price Wise. A 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:42.359 Culinary Legacy is still in print, and it features some 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:47.199 real nineteen seventies food photography. I mean, if you were 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:49.600 a child of the seventies at all, or hav any 0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:52.840 nostalgia for like the seventies vibe, these are worth looking at. 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:56.120 Lots of green with the food, maybe a little less 0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:58.040 green and maybe a little more on the brown side 0:20:58.040 --> 0:20:58.680 of things. 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:01.960 Just a big old like ornate chafing dish full of 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:07.200 cocktail oenies, and it's still kind of some fifties style flair, 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:09.160 and do I see jello molds? 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:12.720 Yeah, I think so. I'm at tempted to pick up 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:14.520 a copy. I imagine a lot of it's way to 0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:17.119 meat heavy for me given the time period. But I 0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:19.960 did try out a version of the pink gin drink 0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:23.160 that he mentions in one of these full page spreads, 0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:25.200 and it was quite good, And so I was kind 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:28.919 of imagining myself as Vincent Price sitting on one. 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:31.159 Of these I love this. I've got to get one 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:34.360 of these books. But I think you're exactly right when 0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:36.760 you mentioned the thing earlier about like this is sort 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:39.720 of the only time when a movie like this would 0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:43.280 have made sense this early seventies period with Vincent Price, 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:48.360 because it seems to be that he's like he's playing 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:52.320 on a parody of the kinds of roles he played 0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:56.000 more seriously in decades past, like in you know, the 0:21:56.560 --> 0:22:00.360 more serious gothic horror of the earlier years, and as 0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:03.560 that's sort of fading out, you could look backwards with 0:22:03.600 --> 0:22:07.160 the memory of the enthusiasm for that genre and make 0:22:07.960 --> 0:22:11.040 a comedy movie like this playing on the same kind 0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:12.840 of flare but with a different tone. 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:16.320 Yeah. Yeah. And at the same time, it's also interesting 0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:23.639 to think that the Fibes character is also either a 0:22:23.720 --> 0:22:27.640 definite influence or a possible influence on some of the 0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:32.160 horror icons that were about to emerge in the subsequent decades, 0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:37.920 you know, characters like Freddy Krueger, Chucky and ultimately the 0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:41.280