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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. My name is Rob.

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Speaker 3: Lamb and I am Joe McCormick.

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Speaker 2: So we had a lot of fun last year discussing

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Speaker 2: nineteen seventy one's The Abominable Doctor Fibes, a deliriously fun

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Speaker 2: and weird horror camp fest, so I figured it was

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Speaker 2: time to come back around and enjoy the continuing adventures

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Speaker 2: of everyone's favorite music and theology doctor turned murderous mastermind,

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Speaker 2: Doctor Fibes.

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Speaker 3: So this is the sequel, the nineteen seventy two film

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Speaker 3: Doctor Fibes rises again, once again starring Vincent Price.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Pretty quick turnaround too. Yeah. From seventy one to

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Speaker 2: seventy two, Fibes got right back in the fight. And

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Speaker 2: as we'll discuss, like, there wasn't a a lot of

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Speaker 2: time left for five for five sequel to happen. You know,

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Speaker 2: this is the tail end of the of the public's

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Speaker 2: consumption of kind of more gothic horror fare, and so

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Speaker 2: it looks like there were higher hopes for where the

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Speaker 2: franchise could have gone. But at least we got one

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Speaker 2: more picture and it's it is quite a lie.

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Speaker 3: So looking online, I have seen a lot of reviewers

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Speaker 3: commenting that this one's okay, but it's not nearly as

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Speaker 3: good as the original, or in general unfavorably comparing it

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Speaker 3: to the original. And I'm maybe I'm an outlier here,

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Speaker 3: but I got to say, I think I enjoyed this

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Speaker 3: at least as much as the first movie. It's I

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Speaker 3: can see where the flaws would come in. There are

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Speaker 3: some repetitive elements to it, Like you know, when Fibes

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Speaker 3: starts monologuing, he's usually just saying the same thing he's

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Speaker 3: already said before, but still, like, I never wanted it

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Speaker 3: to stop. It's just it's just like a great vibe.

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Speaker 3: It's almost like a music video, you know, It's more

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Speaker 3: of an experience. If you're really hooked on every detail

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Speaker 3: the plot, you might well be kind of disappointed, be like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we already know this information, or I don't know why

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Speaker 3: this character is doing this. You put all that aside.

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Speaker 3: If you're in the mood for vibes, vibes, it will

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Speaker 3: bring them, and it will bring them in a delicious way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, is this Vincent Price's finest performance? You know?

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Speaker 2: But in many ways, no, Like, you can look at

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Speaker 2: something like Mask of the Red Death, which we discussed

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Speaker 2: in the show, and like, that's a superb Vincent Price

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Speaker 2: villain performance. That is, you know, it's very grounded and

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Speaker 2: believable and you can see the wheels moving and so forth.

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Speaker 2: This is still a great Vincent Price performance. It is

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Speaker 2: tremendously entertaining every time you hear him, every time he's

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Speaker 2: of performance. It is an unbelievable character in an unbelievable film.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the opposite end of the Price spectrum.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Vincent Price is often thought of as a

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Speaker 3: ham which he absolutely was and could ham it up

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Speaker 3: the greatest of all time at hamming really, But with

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Speaker 3: Mask of the Red Death it revealed his other side,

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Speaker 3: which is he can actually be a quite subtle actor

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Speaker 3: when he wants to be, and he had a lot

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Speaker 3: of subtlety to his character there. There was a powerful

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Speaker 3: understatedness to the way he realized evil in Mask of

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Speaker 3: the Red Death. In this movie, yeahs he is trying

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Speaker 3: to be funny, and he is extremely funny, especially because

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Speaker 3: of all the actors you could cast as a character

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Speaker 3: is like the weirdest choice there. So this is a

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Speaker 3: We'll describe this later when we get into the plot.

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Speaker 3: But so like every time Vincent Price talks in this movie,

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Speaker 3: he's just making faces with his mouth closed while like

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Speaker 3: a voiceover narration plays in your ears.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's moving his throat a bit, and at times

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Speaker 2: I wondered, and I should have looked at into this.

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Speaker 2: consonant pro. But yeah, it is. It is always interesting

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Speaker 2: how the Fibes character disconnects him from his own voice

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Speaker 2: and yet at the same time, especially in this film,

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Speaker 2: and I guess in the first one too, allows all

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Speaker 3: That's right. And I so it's been a while since

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Speaker 3: I've seen the original Vibes. I didn't like rewatch it

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Speaker 3: though the first movie, don't get me wrong, is it

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Speaker 3: is quite intentionally funny. The first movie isn't like taking

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Speaker 2: I think that might well be the case. And I

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Speaker 2: also feel like in the first Fibes movie there were

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's gonna happen. Less so in this picture.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, but not in a way that detracts from it.

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Speaker 2: It doubles down on the absurdity on the like the

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Speaker 2: celebration of doctor Fibes the amazing murders as the movie

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Speaker 2: itself describes them. So that's what we get in this picture.

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Speaker 3: But there's a another way in which I think this

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Speaker 3: sequel works quite well, and in some ways you could

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Speaker 3: the original movie, I don't recall Fibes really having an

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Speaker 3: It's arguable whether you would call either one of them

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Speaker 3: movie introduces a character named Darius bider Beck, who is

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Speaker 3: a great foil to Vincent Price because they bring in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the character is capable enough to take on

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Speaker 2: Doctor Fibes, you know, in a way that threatens the

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Speaker 2: plans of doctor Fibes in a way that we didn't

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Speaker 2: see in the first film, and also has expertise that

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Speaker 2: their given area. That becomes the central to plot, which

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Speaker 2: is of course ancient Egyptian secret.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so more to come on that now.

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Speaker 2: Quick note, this is the first time in Weird House

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Speaker 2: Cinema that we have covered a direct sequel to a

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Speaker 2: But those are not sequential films by any stretch.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, there is, unfortunately a Jason Goes to Hell

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Speaker 3: not say that about the Fibes movies either. I think

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Speaker 3: you could watch these in either order. It really wouldn't matter.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, this is kind of interesting that we've covered

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And so it's always interesting to think about sequals. Well,

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Speaker 2: we've talked about this plenty of times, like why are

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Speaker 2: In addition to, of course, make money. You know, are

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Speaker 2: you looking to deliver more of what worked? Are you

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Speaker 2: are you turning some concept on its head, or you know,

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Speaker 2: recreating something for a different audience. I mean that there's

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Speaker 2: all of these are valid, and there are many more

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Speaker 2: ways that sequels are carried out. This one really does

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Speaker 2: the Abominable Doctor Fibes. Let's throw that party again. Let's

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Speaker 2: stick with what works, and hey, everyone's invited, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think along those lines they pulled it off. Like

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Speaker 2: Maybe not, but it's still going to pack some surprises.

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Speaker 2: It's still fun. It sticks to the tone, it sticks

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Speaker 3: I would agree with all that, though, I would say

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Speaker 3: it's kind of like if the party you had last

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Speaker 3: like it was a graduation party, and then the next

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Speaker 3: So he's getting revenge on all of them. In other words,

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Speaker 3: there's a reason for the occasion. This movie reproduces the

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Speaker 3: I think basically all of the victims in Fibes Rises

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he has just elaborate death contraptions lined up

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Speaker 3: So yes, it is like revisiting a graduation party when

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Speaker 3: nobody's graduating, but like, I don't know, if it was

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Speaker 3: a really great party, why not do it again? And

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Speaker 2: Now to your point too, In the first film, all

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Speaker 2: there was a theological theme to each one. This time,

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's a theological theme. There's kind of

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Speaker 3: Well, I've seen the murders in this movie described as quote,

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Speaker 3: desert themed. I I don't know if that applies to

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Speaker 3: all of them, but I guess maybe some of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, originally there were plans for more parties of

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Speaker 2: this nature. American International Pictures initially intended this to be

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Speaker 2: the first of many fib sequels, including a Bride's of

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Speaker 2: and so this was the last Fibes picture that we

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Speaker 2: actually got those I'll discussed there are some novels out there.

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Speaker 2: So if you want to really dig in your heels

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Speaker 2: and enjoy more Anton fibes, well, there are ways to

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Speaker 3: So we have some trailer audio to hit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have the old radio spot for Doctor Fibes

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Speaker 2: Rises again. Let's hear it.

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Speaker 2: The Abominable Doctor Fibes. It should come as no surprise

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, there's also based on characters created by credit

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Speaker 3: The name is pronounced in the movie Fibes, but like,

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Speaker 2: Goldstein wrote the novelization of Doctor Fibes Rises again, just

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Speaker 3: It is difficult for me to imagine that the Fibes

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Speaker 2: Vincent Price returns as Doctor Anton Fibes. We're not going

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Speaker 3: doesn't act super expressive in terms of like like she

433
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 3: never moves very quickly or makes very broad expressions with

434
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 3: her face, and yet she she enlivens every scene she's in.

435
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 3: There's just something inherently funny and joyful about Volnavia. The

436
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 3: way she just kind of like will placidly like pick

437
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 3: up one of the instruments of one of these murder

438
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 3: traps and kind of like give it a rattle and

439
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 3: check it out or something. And the way she's like,

440
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 3: you know, like wandering through one of the scenes where

441
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 3: Fibes is playing the organ just like lazily lifting her

442
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 3: arms in like a halfway dancing mode. Vulnavia is so great.

443
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, there's there's a much later scene where they're

444
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 2: decorating the set for their upcoming victory, but it's like

445
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 2: some insights like, yeah, they they have to put in

446
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 2: the work, Like there's a lot of work that goes

447
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 2: into meticulously creating your art deco subterranean layer.

448
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 3: In an Egyptian temple under a mountain.

449
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 2: Yeah.

450
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is like they're decorating for Christmas. But Vulnavia

451
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 3: is she is fun in every scene she's in. She

452
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 3: makes everything funnier and more whimsical.

453
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, Kemp was a Kenyan born Australian model and

454
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 2: this was her biggest acting role she had very she

455
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 2: had I think very small background roles in seventy five's

456
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 2: Rollerball and also nineteen eighty one's The Great Muppet Caper,

457
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 2: So another Muppet connection because of course Vincent Brice gets

458
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 2: started in The Muppet Show.

459
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 3: Now, we should be clear that the character of Volnavia,

460
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 3: who was played by Virginia North in the first movie,

461
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 3: she dies at the end of Oh, yes movie, right,

462
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 3: she clearly dies. Ye, She's like, I don't know about

463
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 3: dies is I don't call that TX she did. Yeah,

464
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 3: It's like she's a robot of some kind or some

465
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 3: kind of clockwork organism, and she is destroyed by acid.

466
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, she is destroyed by acid. And I was

467
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 2: reading that. Originally they were like, well, we're going to

468
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 2: bring in a new character to be the assistant, and

469
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 2: the studio was like, no, it's gotta be Vulnavia. We

470
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 2: love Volnavia. And they're like, okay, fine, it's Vibes too.

471
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 2: This is not a rocket science. We can bring her back.

472
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, give the people what they want. I'm glad she's back.

473
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: All right. Now you mentioned the antagonist. The credits describe

474
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 2: both Vibes in this character as the protagonist, so you

475
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 2: know you can make of that way you will, but you.

476
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 3: Choose your own side, pick which one you want to

477
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 3: be allied with.

478
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: Yes, though of course it would be unwise to side

479
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 2: with anyone other than Doctor Fibes in a Doctor Fibes movie,

480
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 2: but still a formidable adversary in the Forum of Darius

481
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 2: bider Beck, played here by Robert Quory who lived nineteen

482
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: twenty five through two thousand and nine.

483
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 3: Now, I think the character's name in the movie, I

484
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 3: think the other characters pronounce it Darius, but in multiple

485
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 3: sources online I've seen it spelled dare Us like da

486
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 3: r r Us other times Darius. I think Darius is right,

487
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 3: but I'm not one hundred percent there.

488
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we will call him bider Beck as most people

489
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 2: call him in the film. Okay, But Corey was an

490
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 2: American actor with mainstream TV and film credits going back

491
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: through the nineteen fifties, but the nineteen seventies saw him

492
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 2: thrust into an increasing number of first science fiction and

493
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: then horror films, many for American international pictures. He appeared

494
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 2: in the nineteen seventy universal sci fi film called Losses

495
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: The Foreben Project, and starred as the titular vampire. The

496
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 2: same year in aipis count Yorga Vampire, which spawned a

497
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy one sequel, The Return of count Yorga. Publicity

498
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 2: materials for the Yorga films called the character the death Master,

499
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 2: and then in nineteen seventy two they made there was

500
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 2: a vampire film titled Deathmaster with Corey in the lead role,

501
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 2: but it's apparently unrelated. He plays a hippie vampire in

502
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: that called Corda.

503
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 3: I want to see this guy as a hippie vampire.

504
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 2: So more Yorga films were apparently planned, including one in

505
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: which he lives in the sewers of Los Angeles, and

506
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: there was indeed talk of a Fibes Versus Yorga film,

507
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: but that didn't happen either, again seemingly due to changes

508
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 2: in the public's appetite for horror and business changes at AIP.

509
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 3: Wider Beck in this movie is, as I said earlier,

510
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: I think a great addition to the film. It's nice

511
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 3: to give Fibes a foil, like somebody who you really

512
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 3: feel like could stand up to him potentially yea. And

513
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 3: the way that Corey plays bider Beck is is a

514
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 3: little bit part Dracula, a little bit part Elvis. This

515
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 3: is gonna sound weird, but stay with me here, part Shatner,

516
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 3: but also just all smooth Transatlantic money bags and a

517
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 3: smoking jacket.

518
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and all of these things make him mostly unafraid

519
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 2: of Fibes, Like he respects Fibes at least eventually as

520
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: an adversary, but he's never completely afraid of him, or

521
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: at least afraid of anything that could happen to him personally.

522
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a strange duality to this character, which is

523
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 3: that on one hand, he's really defined by fear, Like

524
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: his character's entire motivation is driven by a sort of

525
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 3: sense of panic about his own impending personal catastrophe. That

526
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 3: the reason he's going to Egypt is to avert it.

527
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 3: And we'll get into that when we talk about the plot.

528
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 3: But apart from that one centrol fear that drives everything

529
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 3: he does, he seems to be basically fear less, like nothing,

530
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 3: no obstacle or person or event really troubles him.

531
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so it's a fun performance. I really liked

532
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: him in this. Now, there are various accounts that say

533
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: that Price and Corey didn't get along and may have,

534
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: you know, sort of argued with each other and or

535
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 2: insults at each other. I don't know who can say.

536
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 2: It's all hears saying they'd worked on some of the

537
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: same TV shows over time, though I'm not sure ever

538
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: in the same episode, you know, especially when it came

539
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 2: to anthology type affair and more to the point, they'd

540
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 2: work with each other again after this in nineteen seventy

541
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 2: four's Madhouse. Corey worked in various genre pictures and TV

542
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: shows throughout the seventies, including the nineteen seventy four blaxploitation

543
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: film sugar Hill, which has some very creepy voodoo zombies

544
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 2: in it. But Corey was apparently in a bad auto

545
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: accident in nineteen eighty, and he came back in the

546
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: late eighties and acted in a number of B movies,

547
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 2: frequently working for director at Olin Ray up through about

548
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine.

549
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: Oh, I briefly had to look and see, like, wait,

550
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 3: what do I know by fred Olin Ray? And I'm

551
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 3: just like, oh, I recognize his name from like picking

552
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 3: up the boxes of movies and looking at them and

553
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 3: then not renting them.

554
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there may be some fred Olin Ray that

555
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: would be a good fit for Weird House. But I

556
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 2: cannot point to one off the top of my head.

557
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 3: He did one I've I've looked at kind of seriously

558
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 3: called Alienator. That seems to be a fight, a quite

559
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 3: clever combination of the Alien and Terminator themes.

560
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Robert Correy's in that one.

561
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 3: Oh okay, well, maybe maybe that means it's worth looking

562
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 3: at them.

563
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: I mean, Jan Michael Vincent, John Philip.

564
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 3: Law, John Phill Oh my god, diabolics in it. Yeah, okay, well,

565
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: maybe we do need to see Alienator. Then I'll at

566
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 3: least check it out see if it's if it's worthy

567
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 3: of Weird House.

568
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: All right, now, Bider becks romantic interest. They're not yet married,

569
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: is this character Diana? And Diana is played by Fiona

570
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 2: Lewis born nineteen forty six, British actress whose credits include

571
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: sixty sevens The Fearless Vampire Killers, seventy three's Blue Blood

572
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: with Oliver Reed, the nineteen seventy four Dracula movie that

573
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 2: stars Jack Palance as Dracula. That's Interesting, seventy fives list, Domania,

574
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: seventy seven's Tintorera Killer Shark, seventy eight's The Fury, eighty

575
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,719
Speaker 2: three Strange Invaders, in nineteen eighty seven's Inner Space.

576
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 3: Tinterera is one of those I can't believe I sat

577
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 3: through this memories. That was a very unpleasant bad movie.

578
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 3: From what I recall, and I've watched a lot of

579
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 3: Jaws ripoffs.

580
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: That's a Cardona Junior picture.

581
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I recalled that one. Well, it's been

582
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,959
Speaker 3: a long time, so I don't want to say too

583
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 3: much detail about it because I can't recall for sure,

584
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 3: but it was it was not a fun time for me. However,

585
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 3: I think Fiona Lewis is great in this movie. She's

586
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 3: sort of the main actually sympathetic character, so she is

587
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 3: of the non Fibes aligned side of the film. She's

588
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 3: the person you actually identify with. She's basically innocent of

589
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 3: the of the avarice and hubris and violence that drives

590
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 3: the other characters, and she just loves she loves her

591
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 3: fiance bider Beck, and she wants to understand what it

592
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 3: is that's driving him to go to these extreme measures

593
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 3: and force her to travel to Egypt with him and

594
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 3: all this stuff, and so when she's in peril at

595
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 3: the end, I was really feeling it. I was like no, no,

596
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 3: I like Diana I don't want her to be impaled

597
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 3: by snake toungue spikes in a flooded room that's being

598
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 3: filled with the waters of the nile. It's a whole setup. Yeah.

599
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, the same cannot be said for pretty much any

600
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: other victims. Yeah, it's like generally it's like, oh, Fibes

601
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 2: is going to kill this guy next, all right, I

602
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 2: see what he's got.

603
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, So they succeed in making Diana actually quite sympathetic

604
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 3: and likable, and that when she's in peril in the end,

605
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 3: it is true suspense.

606
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. Now, this next character actor, I want

607
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: to mention it's a smaller part, but a very memorable part.

608
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 2: He will be the first victim of doctor Phibes. But

609
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 2: this is the character Manservant Cheng, played by Milton Reid

610
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: who lived nineteen seventeen through possibly nineteen eighty seven. So

611
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: this is an Indian born British character actor and at

612
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 2: least one time professional wrestler. His father was apparently of

613
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 2: Scottish descent and his mother was Indian. He began his

614
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: career as a pro wrestler on the British scene, performing

615
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,479
Speaker 2: as Mighty Chang. According to Howard Maxford, in the book

616
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: Hammer Complete. He began a long career playing strongmen, hnchmen

617
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 2: and bodyguards in nineteen forty four's The Way Ahead, but

618
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: then went onto a mass a forty plus movie filmography.

619
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 2: Highlights in c Rolls in fifty eight, Blood of the

620
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 2: Vampire nineteen sixty, Swiss Family Robinson seventy one, Blood on

621
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: Satan's Claws seventy five is the Return of the Pink

622
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 2: Panther nineteen seventy seven's The Spy Who Loved Me. In

623
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: that one, he is the number two henchman under Richard

624
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 2: Keel's Jaws. Reid here was also uncredited in Doctor No

625
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 2: as a henchman, And indeed I look had to look

626
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 2: up some stills and yeah, you see him in the background.

627
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 2: He's unmistakable. It's a very distinct look, very rugged face,

628
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: often with it like a shaved head, and he's this

629
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 2: kind of a fierce grin.

630
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 3: He has an incredibly thick, dense physique. He looks like

631
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 3: somebody who would just like crush pumpkins with his hands

632
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 3: as a party trick.

633
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was looking up about his biography here. Apparently

634
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 2: he moved back to India late in his career to

635
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 2: be with his mother and his sister, but apparently made

636
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: a go at acting in Hindi language films there. He

637
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 2: appeared in three of them in small parts, but one

638
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 2: of them is the nineteen eighty five Ramsey Brothers film Telephone.

639
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: So interesting connection here to director, directors and filmmakers that

640
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 2: we've talked about on the show before. And then Reid

641
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: apparently died of a heart attack sometime after this in

642
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 2: eighty six or eighty seven, but exact death the exact

643
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: death date has been disputed.

644
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 3: The Ramsey Brothers were the creators of Kurana mon Deer.

645
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, so, and you know, certainly they they liked

646
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 2: actors with interesting looks to play their heavies and their monsters.

647
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: But it seems like it was maybe, you know, ultimately

648
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: just too late in his life and in his career

649
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 2: to really like make a go of it in Indian cinema.

650
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 2: But you know, we can imagine what could have been

651
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: had he lived longer. Again, not a huge role in

652
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: this picture, but he has a great look, great hinching,

653
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: and it makes for a memorable first death, which we'll

654
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: get to here in a bed agreed, all right. This

655
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: movie also has a number of cameos, and I'm not

656
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 2: gonna spend a lot of time on these, but we

657
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 2: have several cameos and continuing roles that are carrying over

658
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 2: from the first Fibes movie. I'm going to run through

659
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 2: them real quick. Caroline Monroe is back playing the deceased

660
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: Victoria Regina Fibes. She is not alive in the previous picture.

661
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: She's not alive in this movie, but the actor is

662
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: still alive. She was born in nineteen forty nine and

663
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: she reprises the role here.

664
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've talked about Carolyne Monroe before, but it's an

665
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 3: interesting role that she plays basically a barbie in a

666
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: box like she's like she's just in suspended animation the

667
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 3: entire film.

668
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, it's our Inspector Harry Trout is back,

669
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: played by Peter Jeffrey who lived nineteen twenty nine through

670
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety. Also, his boss, Superintendent Waverley played by John Catter,

671
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: who lived thirty two through two thousand and nine, is

672
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: also back on the case. So local Britain law enforcement

673
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 2: is in place to go after Fibes in this international caper.

674
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 3: For some reason, the London cops chase Fibes to Egypt.

675
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: Yes, all right. Peter Cushing is in this in a

676
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: very small role. He plays the captain of a ship

677
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 2: that the characters are briefly on.

678
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 3: I don't know if this role was written for Cushing,

679
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 3: because if it was, I feel like they might have

680
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 3: given it a little bit more flair. It's just sort

681
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 3: of a momentary walk on, which he does quite well with.

682
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 3: But it's not a role that demands a lot.

683
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 2: No. No, Apparently Cushing was considered for the Joseph Cotton

684
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 2: roll in the first film, and yeah, it's basically just

685
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 2: a cameo here. So I don't know. They're just like, hey, Cushing,

686
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 2: you want to come in and hang out on set

687
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 2: for a few days, and he's like, Tusher.

688
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 3: Hey, remember how in the previous Fibes movie Terry Thomas

689
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 3: was in it and he was definitely murdered.

690
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well he's back, but as a different character.

691
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: In the first one he was this Let's see, what

692
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: what's the Is he a rake or is he a fop?

693
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 2: I can't remember what the British terminology is there.

694
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's both. He's a he's a bounder. I don't know,

695
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 3: he's a he's like a rich British guy who is

696
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 3: he really enjoys drinking and watching dirty movies on a

697
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 3: film projector. And while he's enjoying his two favorite activities,

698
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 3: somehow they they come and get him. Do they do?

699
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 3: They kill him with a snake? Is this an animal

700
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 3: attack from the first movie?

701
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 2: It may it may be. I think you're right, yeah,

702
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: but they definitely definitely get him because he's one of

703
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 2: the doctors in the first film that Fibes is after

704
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 2: Terry Thomas. That's Terry hyphen Thomas. He's popped up in

705
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: a at least a couple of different movies we've talked

706
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 2: about in the show before. This was exactly the kind

707
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 2: of character that he excelled at, playing a bounder, a

708
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: fop or a rake, some sort of British man of

709
00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 2: low character, you know, untrustworthy, up to know good, a

710
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 2: bit of a creeper, and then it's generally a delight

711
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 2: when this character is either embarrassed or outright murdered.

712
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 3: He played characters of high social class and low moral character.

713
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 2: There you go, Yeah, that's that's that's that's that's that's

714
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: his character work to a t right there. So he's

715
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: back in this film, not playing the same character. It's

716
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 2: just a brief little cameo, but it's still a lot

717
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 2: of fun, stammering, eyes, darting, all the usual Terry Thomas stuff.

718
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, he's just like a guy who gives

719
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 3: a couple of clues to the police, and he doesn't

720
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 3: get murdered or anything. It's just a brief scene, but

721
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 3: they do manage to work in that he is lecherous, yes,

722
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 3: all right.

723
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: And then we also have Hugh Griffith. This is a

724
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 2: rare case where I think his role in this film

725
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 2: is more substantial than his role in the last film.

726
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 2: He played a rabbi in the first movie that was

727
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 2: brought in to uh to advise and consult on something,

728
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: and in this he is one of these bider becks

729
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 2: right hand man. So yeah, Hugh Griffith, who lived nineteen

730
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 2: twelve through nineteen eighty.

731
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 3: Now, I already mentioned earlier that a big part of

732
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 3: the appeal of this movie is the sets. The Abominable

733
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 3: Doctor Five's really thrives on creating weird, beautiful sets and

734
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 3: just having the character's waltz around within them.

735
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: That's right, And so the same set designer worked on

736
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: this film as well. This is Brian Eatwell returning live

737
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: nineteen thirty nine through two thousand and seven. Yeah, absolutely

738
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: ideal that you have the same guy working on this film,

739
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 2: because the look is absolutely important. Now the music is different.

740
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 2: The first film scores by Basil Kirchen, who had experience

741
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 2: with both big bands and experimental music, and I think

742
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: that was really telling in that particular score. This time around,

743
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: it's John Gail, who lived nineteen thirty two through twenty fifteen,

744
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: who only composed two scores, this one in the score

745
00:41:55,800 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 2: for nineteen seventy nine's Mister Selke. His compositions and arrangements, however,

746
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 2: pop up in various other films, such as seventy five

747
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 2: Shivers and the nineteen ninety six film Emma. This score

748
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:12,439
Speaker 2: seems to lean toward heightened religious numbers and a little

749
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 2: jazziness thrown in from time to time. I think it

750
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 2: absolutely works. It's over the top, imperfectly befitting this film.

751
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 3: Agreed. I like the music.

752
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 2: All right, it's signed for Doctor Fibes to Rise again.

753
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 2: Let's jump into that plot.

754
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 3: All right. Well, we talked about how I don't think

755
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 3: you really need to watch these movies in order, especially

756
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 3: because at the beginning of this movie they give a

757
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 3: recap of the previous one.

758
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just like previously on Doctor Fibes, and you

759
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: get a full recap.

760
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 3: That's right. So we get this narration by a man

761
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 3: with a deep serious voice saying, the incredible legends of

762
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 3: the abominable Doctor Fibes began a few short years ago,

763
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 3: all of them unfortunately. True narrator here, by the way,

764
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 3: is the late voice actor and announcer Gary Owens, who

765
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 3: was apparently also the original voice of Hannah Barbera's Space Ghost.

766
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 3: Among his many narrator and announcer credits going back to

767
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 3: the early sixties, if you look at his at his

768
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 3: like IMDb credits, you know he played like a radio

769
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 3: announcer or announcer of some kind in like all the

770
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 3: TV show McHale's Navy and stuff. But one of his

771
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 3: earliest credits I found was the Texas Duke of Schlock

772
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 3: Larry Buchanan's nineteen sixty one film The Naked Witch. You

773
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 3: will never guess what this movie is about, but the

774
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 3: film is notable to me because despite the rather bold

775
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 3: pitch of the title, literally the first ten minutes of

776
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 3: the film are just Gary Owens talking about witchcraft while

777
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 3: we pan over Hieronymous Bosh paintings. So like and Owen.

778
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 3: The movie is less than an hour long in total,

779
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 3: so like a full fifteen percent of it right at

780
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 3: the beginning is just Gary Owens going on about you

781
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 3: know they would gather at midnight for orgies of filth

782
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 3: and depravity. But anyway, yeah, shows you you can start

783
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 3: with Larry Buchanan and work your way up to an

784
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 3: American international picture. Yeah, recapping the deeds of Vincent Price.

785
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 3: But anyway, here's what we learned from the recap, and

786
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 3: it is spoken with tremendous authority by g. Gary Owens.

787
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 3: So we learned that doctor Anton Fibes did amazing murders

788
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 3: that is a quote, amazing murders of diabolical revenge in London,

789
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 3: revenge against whom and for what, against those responsible for

790
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 3: the death of his beloved wife Victoria, and for the

791
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 3: destruction of his own face, which is revealed right at

792
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 3: the beginning of this movie. I don't remember how long

793
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 3: they made you wait to see it in the movie before,

794
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 3: but this time you get it right at the top.

795
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 3: It's basically a groady skull face without lips with kind

796
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 3: of zipper teeth, but he wears a mask that makes

797
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 3: him look like Vincent Price with pale, purplish makeup on.

798
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he has a little bit there's a

799
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 2: little bit of like clockwork as well, you know, like

800
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: some gadgets, you know, because he's been his voice has

801
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 2: been reconstructed and so forth.

802
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 3: We see him eat and drink through a hole in

803
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 3: the back of his neck. He like reaches back. There's

804
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 3: a joke in this movie where at one point Vulnavia

805
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,919
Speaker 3: cooks a fish for him and he gets a fork

806
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 3: full of the fish and sticks it in the hole

807
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 3: in the back of his neck and then looks distressed

808
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 3: and then pulls a bone out of his neck.

809
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. I would describe the look of unmasked Vibes as

810
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 2: kind of like steampunk Google.

811
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there you go. And speaking of the steampunk

812
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 3: or the mechanisms, we are reminded that the only way

813
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 3: Fibes can speak is through quote an ingenious mechanism in

814
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 3: his neck. So basically, it's a hose jack that goes

815
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 3: into the side of his neck. He screws the hose

816
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 3: into it and it allows him to talk through machines

817
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 3: of various kinds. So he'll hook it up to a

818
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 3: phonograph and he can speak through a phonograph or to

819
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 3: an organ, or to like a tuba or a suzophone. Yeah,

820
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 3: though I recall I feel like in the first movie

821
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 3: he didn't talk as much as he does in this one.

822
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: I think so. I think he was more mute in

823
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 2: the first film and would pick and choose the times

824
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 2: when he spoke. And this he's just constantly going on

825
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 2: and on like it's you know, it's the funk of

826
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 2: forty thousand years. Yes, every fifteen minutes or.

827
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 3: So, my be levied Victoria, we will live for eternity

828
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 3: to gather.

829
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 2: Yes.

830
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 3: So we're told in the narration that the most brilliant

831
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 3: minds of Scotland Yard were baffled by the amazing murders,

832
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 3: each more fiendish than the last. And in the sound

833
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 3: proved basement of his mansion, no one could hear his

834
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 3: flambuoyant songs of triumph and revenge played on his organ

835
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 3: and by his ingenious clockwork musicians. This is another thing

836
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 3: from the first movie. He has a robot band.

837
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

838
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 3: The name of the band is on the kick drum.

839
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 3: They're called the Clockwork Wizards.

840
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I forgot about that. Yeah, the Clockwork Wizards.

841
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of electric Wizard. Yeah. So anyway, at the

842
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 3: end of the last movie, what happened is the police

843
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 3: are closing in and doctor Phibes put himself into suspended

844
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 3: life next to Victoria, his wife, who's also in suspended life.

845
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 3: He does a kind of self embalming procedure where he

846
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 3: replaces his blood with embalming fluid.

847
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and this is all pretty groovy, and I

848
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 2: have to stress the recap here makes it clear that

849
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: we are not abandoning the tone of the first film, right,

850
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 2: you know, we're not doing a soft relaunch of the brand.

851
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: We're not you know, going into some sort of a gritty,

852
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 2: you know, exploration of the topic, you know, praise of Cyrus,

853
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 2: because we're sticking to what were right.

854
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 3: So we come in three years later and what was

855
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 3: it Vincent Price is waiting for before he resurrects himself.

856
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 3: It's something about the heavens.

857
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we basically were quickly told that he did

858
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 2: not join his wife and death at the end of

859
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 2: the last film after all, but rather entered to the

860
00:47:55,520 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 2: state of suspended animation until like astronomical or astrological conditions

861
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 2: are such that it befits his grander scheme, which of

862
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: course concerns resurrection and internal life.

863
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 3: And Vincent Price really hams it up on his resurrection

864
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 3: and what he does when he first comes awake.

865
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, glorious resurrection music again that has that just

866
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 2: heightened over the top religious air. That the wafting of incense,

867
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: and once more to that amazing electric organ that he

868
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 2: plays with like the red neon lights. It's covered in

869
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 2: dust now, but you know, he sets down and he

870
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 2: begins to play.

871
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, we see him dusting off the keys, like cracking

872
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 3: his knuckles dramatically. He hooks up his neckos and tells

873
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 3: us that he timed his resurrection to a position of

874
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 3: the moon that last occurred two thousand years ago. And

875
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 3: then we're gonna learn about his plot. He says, we

876
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 3: shall embark to the land of Egypt, where years ago,

877
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 3: in a mountain overlooking the valley of Pharaoh's I did

878
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 3: prepare for us a wonder shrine unknown by any living

879
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 3: man there might be loved. Awaits the key to resurrection

880
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 3: for you and eternal life for both of us.

881
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: So there you have it.

882
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 3: There's the mission, right, and a lot of what Vincent

883
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 3: Price says for the rest of the film is just

884
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 3: variations on that over and over again. Yeah, like you

885
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 3: will be resurrected. I possess the secret key. I know

886
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 3: how Egypt will save us. But fortunately Fibes is not

887
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 3: going to have to accomplish this mission alone.

888
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: Yep, because here it comes vull Nava and she basically

889
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 2: just appears. She kind of just comes drifting out of

890
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 2: this crystal hallway. Again, it's kind of an ambiguous whether

891
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 2: she is now an angel or a muse, a robot,

892
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 2: or some supernatural being that aids Vibes in his quest.

893
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 2: But I guess she has corporeal form because she helps

894
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 2: him book travel arrangements with later on. So she has

895
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 2: a physical reality, But we don't know exactly what she is,

896
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 2: and I guess we don't have to in a film

897
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 2: of this tone.

898
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you don't know, and you don't need to know.

899
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 3: She basically he says her name, She materializes from thin air,

900
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 3: She pushes through some bead curtains and like vamps her

901
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 3: way up to the organ throne and it just works.

902
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like to think she's a muse. In the

903
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 2: Greek mythological tradition though.

904
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, oh, And he further explains his plot to her.

905
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 3: He says, thank you my idea for answering my call.

906
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 3: Upstairs in my safe is a most precious map of papyrus,

907
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 3: a way to a FAO's tomb, under which flows once

908
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 3: every two thousand years, the river of life. We must

909
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 3: make haste and find the river at its flood? Should

910
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 3: we do a sidebar here on what exactly is going

911
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,479
Speaker 3: on between Fibes and Volnavia. So, Rachel and I watched

912
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 3: this movie together, and we both had questions about this

913
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 3: because while the goal is for Fibes to resurrect his

914
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 3: beloved wife and they can live together again, it almost

915
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 3: seems like he and Volnavia are an item. I don't

916
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 3: know if, like if Victoria is gonna wake up and

917
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 3: be like, now you will be my second wife. Like

918
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 3: Vulnavia and him, they dance around, they seem to go

919
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 3: on dates sort of. I don't know exactly what the

920
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 3: nature of their relationship is, but it seems they're more

921
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 3: than just friends. Yeah.

922
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 2: I guess that's another reason I kind of land on

923
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 2: the meuse identification because it seems like there is a

924
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 2: closeness there, but maybe there is just something inherently preventing

925
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 2: them from being an item, Like she is a Greek

926
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 2: ancient Greek supernatural being that just wants to see him

927
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: be his best self and achieve his artistic dreams. But

928
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 2: you know they can never actually be together or I mean,

929
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 2: I don't know. Don't we know that he really loves

930
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 2: his wife and he wants her back, and maybe, I

931
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe they have more of a a libertine

932
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 2: arrangement when it comes to these things.

933
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I mean, to be clear, we never

934
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 3: see them like kissing or anything like that. It's never

935
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 3: that over. It's just ambiguous what's going on with the

936
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 3: two of them anyway. Oh, but we get a wonderful

937
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 3: set piece here because Vulnavia joins Vincent Price at the

938
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 3: organ and he's like playing the music, and then what

939
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 3: happens We get the elevator organ.

940
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it rises up into what should be the

941
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 2: Fibes mansion that I guess is held in some sort

942
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 2: of a trust or something or has robots looking after it.

943
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 2: But much to Fibes' irritation, Uh oh, they've ascended not

944
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 2: into this mansion, but into its ruins. Everything is just

945
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 2: initially it's like a post apocalyptic ruined hellscape, and you're.

946
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 3: Like, what happened They like pop up in the prologue

947
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 3: of Terminator two. Yeah, that's it's just this gray world

948
00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 3: of dust and skulls, I mean not quite skulls, but

949
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 3: the house is completely ruined and it's like a wasteland.

950
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 3: And and Fibes demonstrates his disappointment by playing a dissonant

951
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 3: chord on the organ. Also, I should know that somehow,

952
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 3: I think they have like magically they've like changed clothes

953
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 3: by coming up, because now Volnava is wearing the tall

954
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 3: furry hat that she wears in part one, and I'm

955
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 3: glad to see that's back.

956
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 2: Excellent.

957
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 3: But so they go searching for his safe among the

958
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 3: rebel to get the papyrus, and Fibes finds it empty,

959
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 3: and he's furious. Who could have stolen his precious papyrus

960
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 3: map Only someone who seeks eternal life as he does,

961
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 3: and does he immediately know who? Does he? Just at

962
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 3: this point say bide Beck, I think he does.

963
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 2: Ah, Because right after this we cut to bite her

964
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 2: back and we get to meet him, and we instantly

965
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 2: see this is a man that is very determined, a

966
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 2: man obsessed with the pursuit of eternal life via ancient

967
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 2: Egyptian sorcery. And we meet him in his study attended

968
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 2: by Hugh Griffith from the first film here playing his

969
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 2: archaeologist Buddy Ambrose.

970
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 3: Now we've talked about the sets in the movie, and

971
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 3: a lot of the sets are doctor Fib's mansion with

972
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 3: the beautiful organ and the clockwork band and the weird

973
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 3: lights and all that, and the layer he sets up

974
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 3: inside the temple. But another one is just at bider

975
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 3: becks house, his wreck room. Here. It is glorious. It's

976
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 3: got a snooker table, roaring fireplace, priceless stolen art from

977
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 3: ancient Egypt on the walls, and this brigade of like

978
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 3: six identical forest green pendant lamps that hang down to

979
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 3: like like chest height.

980
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 2: What. Yeah, it's a stunning shot when we first see him,

981
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 2: because we see the lamps and then a reflection of

982
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 2: the lamps and then bider Becks figure in the background.

983
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 2: Like it's a great case of just initially introducing a

984
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 2: character with enough visual flare that you don't know who

985
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 2: this guy is, but you can tell that he's important.

986
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 3: Yes, and he is important. Bider Beck and Ambrose are

987
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 3: adventuring archaeologists who have been scouting out locations in Egypt

988
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 3: looking for a particular temple where the pharaohs of old

989
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 3: would access the secrets of eternal life. And bider Beck

990
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 3: reveals he's got the papyrus. He was contacted by a

991
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 3: dealer who discovered this papyrus in the ruins of a

992
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 3: demolished mansion in Maldi and Square because of his interest

993
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 3: in the document. Well because so like it was known

994
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 3: among the world of antiques dealers that he wanted this papyrus,

995
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 3: and so they found it and they brought it to him.

996
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 3: And I guess this is also how Fibes knew that

997
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 3: bider Beck would have wanted it like that. He it

998
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 3: was just known that this guy was looking for it.

999
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 3: And then later we see Fibes spying on the wreck

1000
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 3: room through the window, so he's here, he knows what's up.

1001
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, So bider Beck explains to Ambrose that astronomy is

1002
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 2: the key to understanding the secrets hidden in the ancient

1003
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: Egyptian papyrus they obtained from the ruins. And then this

1004
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 2: is actually at least a casual nod to the importance

1005
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 2: the ancient Egyptians placed on the movement of the heavens.

1006
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 2: Though this, of course, is not the sort of film

1007
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 2: to get serious in its egyptomania.

1008
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 3: No, it's it's not engaging very deeply, like they make

1009
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 3: references to the Book of the Dead and stuff, but

1010
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 3: I think it is a very loose relationship to actual

1011
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 3: Egyptian mythology. Yeah, anyway, Ambrose is like bider Beck, you

1012
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 3: are a respected intellectual. You are acclaimed as one of

1013
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 3: he says, one of the most brilliant minds in the

1014
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 3: Western Hemisphere. He says, yet you seem obsessed with the spiritual,

1015
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 3: the mythical aspect of life, and bider Beck responds, of course,

1016
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 3: I'm obsessed with life. Like that's not quite what he said.

1017
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 3: But anyway, he says, and somewhere in Egypt that obsession

1018
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 3: will be answered. So we learned that they are headed

1019
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 3: to Egypt to find the temple, and bider Beck promises

1020
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,479
Speaker 3: Ambrose that he can keep whatever gold they find, because

1021
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 3: bider Beck is not interested in gold he has he

1022
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 3: has his sight set on a different prize. Now Here

1023
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 3: are the film kind of toys with some of the

1024
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 3: some of that lost ancient knowledge lore because Darius spider

1025
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 3: Beck knows the location of the temple is called the

1026
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 3: Temple of Ibysis because of maps from thousands of years

1027
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 3: ago containing information that was not thought to have been

1028
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 3: discovered until after the Renaissance, things like the existence of

1029
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 3: rings around Saturn, and so these maps contain, you know,

1030
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,919
Speaker 3: information that we didn't think the ancient Egyptians could have known,

1031
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 3: and these maps somehow also point out the location of

1032
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 3: the temple. Anyway, time to meet our non Fibes aligned

1033
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 3: heroine Diana. Bider Beck is Diana's fiance, and she barges

1034
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 3: into the snooker room dressed to the nine. She's got

1035
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 3: like a beautiful dress and furs, and she's like, oh,

1036
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 3: didn't you remember, darling, we are having dinner with the princess.

1037
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 3: So Darius goes up to change for dinner, and speaking

1038
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 3: to Ambrose, Diana reveals that she is not excited about

1039
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 3: going to Egypt. She explains that that Darius has been

1040
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 3: so preoccupied with something lately and this trip seems to

1041
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 3: be all he can think about. So she is an

1042
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 3: unsatisfied woman whose fiance has she knows he's hiding something.

1043
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:06,919
Speaker 3: He has some kind of secret and she can't get

1044
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 3: it out of him anyway. On the way out of

1045
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 3: the house, we meet Bider becks Manservant Chang here, who

1046
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 3: we talked about earlier. They leave, and Chang by himself

1047
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 3: at the house, plays snooker, and outside we see Volnavia

1048
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 3: like with a car unloading a giant wicker basket from

1049
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 3: the trunk, and she gives the basket a shake, which

1050
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 3: is funny. And here we get to amazing murder number one.

1051
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is your classic clockwork viper slash, real

1052
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 2: viper fake out into a death by pneumatic golden spike

1053
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,919
Speaker 2: shape like a snake hidden in the telephone that goes

1054
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 2: through your brain. The victim, of course, is Manservant Chang.

1055
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 3: This is so good. So yeah, he's playing snooker, he

1056
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 3: hears snakes, he sees snakes, He kills one of the

1057
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 3: snakes with his pool cue. Then he realized. He picks

1058
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 3: up the body and realizes it was not a real snake.

1059
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 3: It was a clockwork snake. Then he sees another snake

1060
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 3: and he's like, ah, it's just a clockwork snake. So

1061
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 3: he picks it up and then realizes that there's like

1062
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 3: a wind up clockwork piece of it, but it's not

1063
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 3: actually part of the snake. It's just taped to a

1064
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 3: real snake. And then the real snake bites him, and

1065
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 3: then he realizes the bite is venomous, and he like

1066
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 3: cuts it and tries to suck out the poison and

1067
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 3: then runs to the telephone I guess, to call for help,

1068
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 3: and then the telephone is booby trapped and sends a

1069
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 3: spike through his brain.

1070
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, the spike is a gut is made of gold,

1071
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 2: or at least colored gold, and shape like a snake.

1072
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 2: It's wonderful.

1073
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 3: Now, I don't want to spoil the fun, but my

1074
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 3: question is, did Fibes in Vulnavia need the snakes? Couldn't

1075
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 3: they have hear me out here, called the telephone and

1076
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 3: spiked him when he answered, well.

1077
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 2: Where's the fun in that? It is absolutely essential. The

1078
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 2: snakes are key here.

1079
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, but so yeah, they spike him, and then

1080
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 3: they go to the safe and they get bider Beck's papyrus.

1081
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 3: They get vibes of papyrus back. It was rightfully his.

1082
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 3: That's right.

1083
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 2: So we're off to a really great start with just

1084
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 2: an overly elaborate kill here.

1085
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 3: So later we see the police investigating and it's Inspector

1086
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 3: Trout again. So the main thrust of the scene is

1087
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 3: bider Beck being like, look, I don't care that this

1088
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 3: man is dead. I want my stolen papyrus back at once.

1089
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 3: Their conversation is pretty funny. Bider Beck insists that the

1090
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 3: culprit is a common thief because he says that no

1091
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 3: one who knew of the value of the papyrus would

1092
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 3: have stolen it, would have stolen it or done a murder.

1093
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 3: And Trout is like, wait, you're saying a common thief

1094
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 3: killed your man servant with live snakes and clockwork snakes

1095
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 3: and a booby trapped murder telephone, And bider Beck is like,

1096
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 3: what are you implying. I think the idea is this

1097
01:00:55,040 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 3: was a known assailant, This was a premeditated in some way.

1098
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, we're about to head off to Egypt, but first.

1099
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 2: We get another organ monologue here from Fibes, and he

1100
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 2: lets us know that he's already been to Egypt and

1101
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 2: he's built a palace beneath the stone to await this

1102
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 2: key moment, So you know, don't spend a lot of

1103
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 2: time trying to construct the timeline here of when Vibes

1104
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 2: had the time to make this earlier. You know, maybe

1105
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 2: it was, you know, earlier in his career and as

1106
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 2: a doctorate of theology. But just trust us. He's been there,

1107
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 2: he scoped it out, he's created a layer, and now

1108
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 2: it's time to go back and get the job done.

1109
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 3: That's right. And they're going to travel by steamship.

1110
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, oh man. And do they ever travel?

1111
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 3: This is great. Fibes in Volnavia are not traveling light.

1112
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 3: So first of all, they take along Carolyn Monroe in

1113
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 3: this giant barbie box. It's like a human sized, sealed

1114
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 3: display case with a glass front. It's got purple curtains,

1115
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 3: carnival lights all around it, sometimes a microphone inside, like

1116
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 3: she's about to sing a jazz number, but unfortunately she

1117
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 3: never does. And then they also take the clockwork wizards

1118
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 3: with them, so the robot band comes along on the trip,

1119
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 3: and this will continue to play a role in the plot.

1120
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 2: See Vulnavia accepts and supports doctor Fibes utterly. She's not saying,

1121
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 2: do we really need to bring a robot band? In

1122
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 2: twenty seven elaborate death elaborate death traps on our voyage. No, no,

1123
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 2: she just makes it happen because she knows that this

1124
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 2: is who he needs to be.

1125
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, she has faith in his vision. So on the ship. Oh,

1126
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 3: also we see like Vincent Price and Vlnavia just like

1127
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 3: waltzing on the deck. You know, they're they're really they're

1128
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 3: excited about their trip. Fibes is monologuing with his neck

1129
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 3: plug plugged into a phonograph about how Victoria will rise

1130
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 3: again and he will hold her in his arms. And

1131
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 3: then we go to bider Beck's cabin, where we got

1132
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 3: a plot reveal. Bider Beck is writing in his diary.

1133
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 3: He says, I am taking three drops of my elixir

1134
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 3: of life. The vials are almost empty. If I fail

1135
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 3: in Egypt, I am doomed. Then we see him dole

1136
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 3: out a few drops into a tiny spoon and swallow them.

1137
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so this is our first realization that bider

1138
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 2: Beck really isn't a normal person. He's not just an

1139
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 2: an exceptional human, but there is something unnatural about him,

1140
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 2: because he's maintaining this appearance of being like, you know,

1141
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,919
Speaker 2: a well maintained middle aged man kind of. But how

1142
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 2: old is he really? How long has he been taking

1143
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 2: this magical elixir to sustain his life?

1144
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 3: Right, So we have this idea now of why bider

1145
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 3: Beck is so desperate to get to Egypt and get

1146
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 3: to the temple. He's using this elixir to stay alive

1147
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 3: and he's almost out of it. This is his last

1148
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 3: chance to survive. After he takes the drops, he like

1149
01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 3: goes and examines his skin in the mirror as if

1150
01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 3: he worried, like is it working? And we also see

1151
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 3: that he keeps this secret closely guarded, so he goes

1152
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 3: to hide the elixir when somebody comes near, and then

1153
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 3: we see bider Beck and Ambrose discuss how the mountain

1154
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 3: temple holds a great secret. He's not going to reveal

1155
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 3: it just yet. And Diana is like listening at the door,

1156
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 3: hoping to discover the root of her fiance's obsession, but

1157
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 3: no dice. So Ambrose leaves the cabin, giving way to

1158
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 3: Amazing murder number two.

1159
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so basically Ambrose goes into the ship's hold here

1160
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 2: to get something like research materials or something. I forget

1161
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 2: exactly what he's down there for.

1162
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's looking for something, and the like the captain

1163
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 3: and not the cabin somebody's showing him around, but he

1164
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 3: gets distracted when he comes across some large set pieces.

1165
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a giant Miller's gin bottle. Now I'm unsure

1166
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 2: if doctor Phibes brought this or if this is like

1167
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 2: some sort of a promotional thing for Miller's Gin that

1168
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 2: they're about to do, like either in Egypt or some

1169
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 2: their port of call.

1170
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 3: It's like a giant advertisement. So it's a giant Miller's

1171
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 3: brand gin bottle with cardboard cutouts of chorus dancers. I

1172
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 3: don't know. But then he stumbles across Fibes's cargo, including

1173
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 3: Victoria in her original packaging and the clockwork wizards, and

1174
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 3: he starts like fiddling around with the controls on them,

1175
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 3: and he shouldn't have done that, because then he is

1176
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 3: ambushed by Fibes, and we don't see in exactly what form,

1177
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 3: but we see Fibes at the edge of the ship

1178
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 3: clearly throwing something overboard. And then later bider Beck is

1179
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 3: visited in his cabin by Peter Cushing, playing the captain

1180
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 3: of the ship, and he explains that he's been circling

1181
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 3: the area for hours and he pledges to use every power,

1182
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 3: his every power to find Ambrose in the hope of

1183
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 3: rescuing him, and bider Beck is like, nah, this has

1184
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 3: taken too long. Put us back on the original course

1185
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 3: at once.

1186
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 2: Yep, But then we then we're gonna find out, Okay,

1187
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 2: how did he kill Ambrose? Why did we see that

1188
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 2: giant gin bottle? How are these two things gonna possibly

1189
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 2: be connected? While Ambrose washes up on shore inside dead

1190
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 2: inside the giant.

1191
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 3: Gin bottle, one of the police that's recovering him from

1192
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 3: the water is like, how do you get in there

1193
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 3: in the first place? And the other one says, blighter

1194
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 3: must have drunk his way in.

1195
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we have no idea, there's no there's no

1196
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 2: explanation for how he got Ambrose into the bottle.

1197
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 3: So the murder of Ambrose leads to the police inquery.

1198
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 3: Here where we start, we meet our main two police characters.

1199
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 3: I guess we've already met Inspector Trout, but we also

1200
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 3: meet his boss, Superintendent Waverley, and they have a sort

1201
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 3: of vaudeville comedy duo. Dynamic Trout is I think the

1202
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 3: way I put it is that Trout is like simple

1203
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 3: literal and not too bright, but he's usually correct, whereas

1204
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 3: Waverley is uptight and irritable and usually wrong. We learn

1205
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 3: from their interaction that Ambrose's body has been recovered from

1206
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 3: the sea, and for some reason, Trout is involved in

1207
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 3: this investigation. I'm not quite sure why, yeah, but so

1208
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 3: they through them, we meet several other characters who are

1209
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 3: not going to come back. We just like get some

1210
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 3: clues from them. So they get a visit from Beryl Reed,

1211
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,919
Speaker 3: playing a relative of Ambrose. This is only one year

1212
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 3: before her role in Psychomania, as I think she is

1213
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 3: the witchcraft, the witchcraft practicing mother of our sort of

1214
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 3: Nigel Toughnell youth.

1215
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, you're right on that. Yes, she was the

1216
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 2: witch She had like second billion in that yeah.

1217
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. And then we also get a visit from

1218
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 3: Terry Thomas, who plays a sniveling, lecherous booking agent of

1219
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 3: the steamship that all of our characters took to Egypt,

1220
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 3: and by gathering details from him, I think this is

1221
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 3: how the cops put together that the murderer must be Fibes.

1222
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 3: What exactly were the deciding factors here? I think the

1223
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 3: elaborateness of the murders and the fact that he's traveling

1224
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 3: with clockwork musicians.

1225
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 2: I think that'll do it. That's enough evidence that you

1226
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 2: can get any any court in the land to agree

1227
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 2: with you. It's all right, this is probably Fibes.

1228
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 3: So the parties all arrive in Egypt. We get the scene.

1229
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 3: It's a great scene where Fibes in Vulnavia are like,

1230
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, they're having like a lunch date in

1231
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 3: this tent on top of a sand dune, and Volnavia

1232
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 3: has cooked a fish. And this is the bone scene.

1233
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 3: The bone and the next scene, and then they enter

1234
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 3: the temple under the mountain where Fibes has established a

1235
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 3: jazzy layer I think with electricity maybe.

1236
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's a it's like a full Art

1237
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 2: deco kind of thing. They're still working on it a

1238
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 2: little bit. We see scenes later where they're they're painting

1239
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:44,679
Speaker 2: and so forth. So it's a full production, but clearly

1240
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 2: a lot of work has been done. Right.

1241
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 3: So bider Beeck, we learn, has hired a team of

1242
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 3: archaeologists and workers to help him unearth the secrets of

1243
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 3: the temple. And of course these guys are just you know,

1244
01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 3: meat for Fibes traps, and this is really what most

1245
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,839
Speaker 3: of the rest of the movie consists of maybe we'll

1246
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 3: kind of zoom out and talk more loosely about the

1247
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 3: plot from here on out, because what it is for

1248
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:12,679
Speaker 3: the rest of the movie is is Fibes and bider

1249
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 3: Beck competing for control of the mechanism that will allow

1250
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 3: them to access eternal life underneath this temple. And the

1251
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 3: mechanism is there's like a sarcophagus, there's a big box,

1252
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 3: and then it also has a mechanism underneath it that

1253
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 3: releases a key, and with the box and the key,

1254
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 3: you can access this area underneath the temple where when

1255
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 3: the moon reaches a certain height and the waters drained

1256
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 3: away from the nile, you can go into this passageway

1257
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 3: with the gates opened by the key, and that will

1258
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,640
Speaker 3: grant you eternal life. Is that how you understood it?

1259
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, Base, It becomes increasingly mythic towards the end of

1260
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 2: this obviously that this is going to be a magical

1261
01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 2: river to eternal life somewhere in the underworld this temple.

1262
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 3: Right, But along the way, Fibes has to do a

1263
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 3: bunch more amazing murders.

1264
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so amazing murder number three is probably the

1265
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 2: least creative of the murders. This one is just a

1266
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:16,799
Speaker 2: hawk attack. We've we've already seen this trained hawk hanging

1267
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 2: out with fibes, so it's not a surprise that he

1268
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 2: has one and it kills. I think the victim is

1269
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 2: this guy Shavers. He gets, you know, his face scraped

1270
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 2: up by the bird and then you know, some of

1271
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 2: his throat torn out or something, and there's some blood.

1272
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's telling that this is the laziest

1273
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 2: fibes murder and it involved him probably like training this

1274
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 2: bird from birth or something.

1275
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like it's some kind of eagle or something,

1276
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 3: and yeah, it just tears up his face and then

1277
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 3: we see it eating little bits of his flesh. Yeah,

1278
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 3: it's one of the archaeologists that works for bider Beck.

1279
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 3: I think it's understandable that this is the least elaborate

1280
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Speaker 3: murder because they just got in from long travel. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you can imagine they're jet lagged and so he doesn't

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Speaker 3: have time to like put together a bunch of equipment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but all man does he make up for it

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Speaker 2: with the next one, because amazing Murder Number four is

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Speaker 2: your classic scorpion death chair with the key dropped inside

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Speaker 2: a plastered dog in his master's voice tableau. But the

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Speaker 2: plaster dog is full of live scorpions.

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Speaker 3: Right, So this is one of the workers at Biderbecks camp.

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Speaker 3: He had been like ogling Diana, like, you know, staring

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Speaker 3: at her silhouette as she undresses in her tent, and

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Speaker 3: so he's he's established as the lecherous assistant. And then

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Speaker 3: of course Volnavia is like, oh hi, I'm just a

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Speaker 3: random beautiful woman walking out of the desert. Come with me.

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Speaker 3: And he's like okay, And so he goes to her

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Speaker 3: tent and then she locks him in a metal like

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Speaker 3: a gold scorpion that stabs his arms with spikes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the claws, the claws.

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Speaker 3: Of the scorpion. Yeah. And then you think maybe the

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Speaker 3: stinger of the scorpion statue is going to stab him,

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Speaker 3: but it doesn't. Instead, it's implied that the key to

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Speaker 3: releasing him from this contraption is inside this plaster dog

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Speaker 3: you mentioned. So he breaks the dog and is full

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Speaker 3: of scorpions, and the scorpions crawl all over him, including

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Speaker 3: like crawling crawling under his shirt and crawling down his pants,

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Speaker 3: and I guess stinging him to death.

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Speaker 2: That's right, yeah, And it and it is tremendous. It's

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Speaker 2: a tremendous kill. I still have no idea what the

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Speaker 2: whole his master's voice thing with the dog and the

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Speaker 2: record player man like the RCA Victor dog motif. But

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Speaker 2: it's part of it. It's part of the his plan,

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Speaker 2: it's part of his design, so it must be important somehow.

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Speaker 3: Now throughout this whole process, Diana is becoming increasingly wary

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Speaker 3: because she uncovers the body of the of the guy

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Speaker 3: who gets eaten by the eagle, that's like somehow buried

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Speaker 3: under her tent. I don't know how that was arranged.

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Speaker 3: She like digs him up, and she's like, something is

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Speaker 3: not right here. We really need to get out of here.

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Speaker 3: Why won't you reveal your secrets to me? And Bider

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Speaker 3: becks Still he's keeping the secrets. He doesn't let her know,

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Speaker 3: all right.

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Speaker 2: So the next amazing murder, Amazing murder number five. This

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Speaker 2: is the one that the trailer you heard earlier refers

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Speaker 2: to as the sausage machine. It's not really a sausage machine.

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Speaker 2: It's not really that gross, but what it is is

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Speaker 2: death by solow compression in a giant vertical screw driven

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Speaker 2: press while a giant fan outside generates enough wind, howling wind,

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Speaker 2: to cover the sounds of the victim screams. And we

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Speaker 2: should also note that just prior to this, before the

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Speaker 2: victim drifted off to sleep, what was he reading. He

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Speaker 2: was reading The Turn of the Screw.

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Speaker 3: Perfect. It's like it's like Evil Dead two with the

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Speaker 3: Farewell to Arms. Yeah, yeah, so this one is this

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Speaker 3: one is one of the silliest because it ends up

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Speaker 3: with him like he gets squeezed into a hole in

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Speaker 3: a little box and then his head pops out the

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Speaker 3: other side. The other characters come and look at it

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Speaker 3: later and uh again, this is like this. So we

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Speaker 3: were talking about how earlier there's not even really a

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Speaker 3: very uh clear uh motive of revenge. But at least,

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Speaker 3: like say, with the previous guy, you could say, well,

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Speaker 3: like he was being a creep ogling Diana. So like

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Speaker 3: when you see him get killed there, it's like, okay,

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Speaker 3: at least he was being a creep directly before this.

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Speaker 3: But this guy, I don't recall that this guy was

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Speaker 3: doing anything.

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Speaker 2: Now, this was the likable of the two. Yeah, he

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Speaker 2: gets this this Grizzly novel death as well.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 3: Also, we should mention that somehow the police from London

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Speaker 3: make their way to Biderbacks camp and they're like they're

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Speaker 3: sleeping in the back of their truck and while the

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Speaker 3: scene is going on, having like goofy conversations about the wind.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it's unclear of why they have jurisdiction in Egypt,

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Speaker 2: but they're here. So basically at this point in the film, uh,

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Speaker 2: bier Back and Vibes still after the key, you know,

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Speaker 2: back and forth there they've been in. The other people

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Speaker 2: in bider Becks camp have convinced him, you know, this

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Speaker 2: is really dangerous. Maybe you should send your girlfriend back.

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Speaker 2: Maybe well actually they say you should leave too, but

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Speaker 2: he's like, no, I'm staying. I'll send her back. And

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Speaker 2: so there's a scene where Hackett, one of the other

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Speaker 2: guys working for bider Back, is like, Okay, I'll take

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Speaker 2: her back in the truck, back to the port or whatever. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and this is where we get amazing murder number six.

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Speaker 2: This is death by Patriotic Music and flag distraction utilizing

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Speaker 2: clockwork humanoid musicians. These are the clockwork wizards transitioning into

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Speaker 2: a lethal in vehicle sand blasting booby trap where the

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Speaker 2: sand blasts all the skin off of the victim and

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Speaker 2: reduces him to a sand covered skeleton.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So as they're driving away, Hackett sees the British

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Speaker 3: flag flying on the other side of a sand dune,

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Speaker 3: and then they hear bagpipes and he goes, look, it's

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Speaker 3: the Scottish fusiliers. Ah, now we're saved from whoever's doing

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Speaker 3: all these elaborate murders because we'll just go get their help.

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Speaker 3: I think they actually know it's Vibes at this point,

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Speaker 3: they're like, the Vibes can't stand against the British military.

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Speaker 3: So Hackett leaves Diana in the car and he runs

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Speaker 3: over the sand dune. Yeah, and he just finds the

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Speaker 3: clockwork musicians there and so he's disappointed, runs back to

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Speaker 3: the car. Diana is missing, she's been taken and when

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Speaker 3: he gets in the car he gets sand blasted to death.

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Speaker 2: So at this point where we lead into the final setting,

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Speaker 2: So basically Fibes has Diana and he has put her

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Speaker 2: in Amazing murder Machine number seven. This is intended to

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Speaker 2: be death by slowly lowering snake themed ceiling spikes into

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Speaker 2: all inside a custom flooded pyramid of doom. So Diana

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Speaker 2: is strapped in there and basically like it comes down

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Speaker 2: to this confrontation between Fibes and bider Beck. Look, you

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Speaker 2: have the key, bider Beck. You've got to give it

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Speaker 2: to me, otherwise your girlfriend's going to die in this

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Speaker 2: pyramid of doom I built. And this is the final confrontation.

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Speaker 3: That's right. And you know, there's an interesting turn at

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Speaker 3: the end because while we've seen bider Beck mostly being

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Speaker 3: selfish and uncaring about the deaths of his friends and

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Speaker 3: associates as he pursues this way of escaping his doom

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Speaker 3: and getting eternal life, at the very end of bider

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Speaker 3: Beck is actually, I guess shown to be kind of

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Speaker 3: sympathetic because he tries to argue his way out of

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Speaker 3: it with Fibes. He tries to find a way to

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Speaker 3: get the better of this, but in the end he

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01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:25,879
Speaker 3: is convinced that the only way he can save Diana

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Speaker 3: is to give Fibes the key, and he does, and

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Speaker 3: so he gives up the key, goes to rescue Diana,

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01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 3: and then when he sees that she's gonna be all right,

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01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 3: he runs back and he tries to gain access to

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01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 3: the gates to get into the river of eternal life,

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01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 3: but he just misses his window. Fibes takes Victoria on

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01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,679
Speaker 3: like a bull barge, little little boat, going down into

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01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 3: this tunnel, and we're left with bider Becks there at

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Speaker 3: the gates, like rattling them, shaking, shouting, fib.

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Speaker 2: And then he rapidly ages, and I guess it's uncertain

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01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 2: whether he dies or not or if he's just like

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01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 2: super old, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's never made clear. We see him rapidly aging.

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Speaker 3: It's like, you know, it's like at the end of

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01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 3: the Last CRUs Indian Jones and the Last Crusade, like

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01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 3: his hair gets long and white and he gets all wrinkly.

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Speaker 3: But then we never see him crumble to dust or anything,

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01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 3: and his fate after that is not shown, so we're

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01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 3: left wondering does he die or is he just greatly aged.

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Speaker 3: So Diana in the end is okay, and so that's good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so we end seeing doctor Fibbes and Victoria

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01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:36,679
Speaker 2: on their boat sailing down this tunnel into the darkness,

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01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 2: into the underworld and presumably eternal life. And while this

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Speaker 2: is taking place, doctor Fibbes begins to sing the lyrics

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Speaker 2: to Somewhere Over the Rainbow, the song that also capped

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Speaker 2: off the first film, only this time Doctor Phibbs is

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01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 2: actually singing it. So what a treat, right, Yeah, a

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01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 2: strong choice. I think I like it, So I guess

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01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 2: happy ending. Really, we didn't get any more Fibes films.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what happens in the novels, but as

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01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 2: far as just the cinematic universe of doctor Fibes, this

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01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:12,799
Speaker 2: is victory for him. He will now live forever. Victoria

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01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 2: will live again and live forever beside him, and who

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01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 2: knows what kind of adventures they'll get into.

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Speaker 3: Then we will see them together plotting elaborate revenge murders

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01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 3: against like people who have wronged them in incredibly petty ways.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, there's always the possibility. I don't think

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01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 2: he ever realized that Joseph Cotton's character from the first

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01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 2: film got away. I think he assumed he died, but

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Speaker 2: he didn't, So there's always that. Finally, one little thing

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01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 2: I was wondering about. Okay, we have all these animal deaths,

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01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 2: and you know what, we have snake, and then we

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01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,640
Speaker 2: have like a jar essentially we have hawk scorpion, some

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01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 2: sort of press sand snake. I was wondering if these

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01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 2: are supposed to be interpreted as hieroglyphics, because there are

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01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 2: hieroglyphics that contain these basic elements. But I have no

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01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 2: idea how to build upon that as to like what

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01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 2: it would mean, like maybe the hiergovics just spell out

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01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:02,679
Speaker 2: fibes or something.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Vibes was here. I can't comment. Yeah,

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01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 3: I like it though, So.

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Speaker 2: There you have it. Doctor Fibes Rises again from nineteen

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Speaker 2: seventy two. This one's a real treat. If you enjoyed

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Speaker 2: the first film, highly recommend you check out the sequel

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01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:21,240
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