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Speaker 1: I think so too. I think it's a new NBA.

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Speaker 1: can't be the face of the NBA. I don't see

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, even though you know Canada is not Europe,

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Speaker 1: I just it doesn't have to be a I don't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we never thought that. We see that.

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Speaker 1: We thought that the sixth man was always gonna make

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Speaker 4: And why because our game has grown globally? Yes, Like

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Speaker 4: this game is not unique to just us anymore. Right,

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Speaker 4: It's a global game. It's really our superpower, right, the

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Speaker 4: got the game that matches it, you know, I think

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Speaker 4: at some point he will.

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Speaker 1: five year old superstar. Yeah, Luca has the Yeah, what

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Speaker 4: I like it for the game, you know, to get

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Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing that Luca will benefit from

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's really where all his criticism comes basically, you know,

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Speaker 4: Yes, and I think those are fair, you know observations.

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Speaker 4: He gotta get, he gotta get in better shape. If

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Speaker 4: I don't think they'll win at all. I just don't

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Speaker 4: But they have two superstar players that can't really get

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Speaker 1: So and they got strength. They got strength on that

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go back to your story. You got the Nets,

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Speaker 2: Oh Ship, you good? We're talking about Boston.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, talking about Boston boy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, okay, because I can't know me when I

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Speaker 3: You still remember that, man, you have slim.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say what's up to you tonight because you

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Speaker 2: While we see you this summer, Bros.

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Speaker 1: No, listen, I told you and I tell people this

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Speaker 4: So between the Miami Heat culture and the Miami high

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, like, play with that chip.

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Speaker 1: I did the same thing. We played against Dallas, and

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Speaker 2: No, alright, I talked to you this summer.

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Speaker 3: I ain't had that talent. I wasn't drafted.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I remember, like y'all, So I kept I kept

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Speaker 2: I feel you.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I feel you look for me too.

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Speaker 4: really buy into it, like you really like, I don't

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Speaker 2: I don't care about nothing out here.

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Speaker 4: At the end of the day, I got a job

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Speaker 4: I came from playing playing in those series, Bro and

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