1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of the Odd Couple podcasts. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Be sure to check us out live every weekday from 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: four to seven pm Pacific seven to ten pm Eastern 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: Odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: us every day on the iHeartRadio by searching FSR. 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Best of the Odd Couple. 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 3: Show. 9 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 4: Hey is a no show? Seriously one for twenty and 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 4: guess what off of reputation? They keep walking him in 11 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 4: front of Mookie, and Mookie keeps getting walked and walking 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 4: in a run. 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 3: Pitch to the guy. 14 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 4: Make him earn his keep, Make him earn that seven 15 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 4: hundred million dollar contract that they're paying him for. Last year, 16 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 4: he struggled and they won his bite. They won the 17 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 4: World Series where he didn't pitch and he didn't hit. 18 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 4: This year, they're winning, trying to get back to the 19 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 4: World Series, trying to win back to back for the 20 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 4: first time since the Yankees did it in ninety nine 21 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 4: two thousand and This dude is a no show. What 22 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 4: has happened? You've seen some of the swings. Somebody at 23 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 4: bats hell, Look is this on show? 24 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 5: Hey? 25 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 3: Show up? Earn your keep, get some knocks. 26 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 4: Enough already riding the wave of everybody else and hiding. 27 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 3: That's what he's doing. 28 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 4: Go ahead, defend him, Dodger Homer, Wait heard them, I'm 29 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 4: about to go full Robbie Cochran. 30 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: That's what I call you, your honor. I heard what the 31 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: prosecution have to say, but me, as the defense team, 32 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: I would like to say, I object to the way 33 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: in which you are belittling the fact that the man 34 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: was walked three times. 35 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,919 Speaker 3: That's a massive part of success. 36 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: If I walk back Bonds, if I'm walking, Mike Trout, 37 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: if I'm watching walking, Mark cguire, if I'm walking whoever 38 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: you wanted to be, and now in this case show hey, 39 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: o Tani, that's a massive part. 40 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 3: You can't. Can you say this with a straight face? 41 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: Hold on? Okay, hit me again, false, okay, hit me 42 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 3: with the law and order. I'm not done now. Listen. 43 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: The benefit that he also has is that it could 44 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: potentially be another two weeks. And this is what I mean. 45 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: Don't cover the no you said, James Franklin. Okay, listen. 46 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,119 Speaker 1: The best part about this is what'sn't ahead of him, 47 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: meaning they have minimally seven games if they were to 48 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: go to the World Series in either team won. But 49 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: he has minimum seventeen three to win this series and 50 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: then uh you know for in the World Series. 51 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 3: Oh there sweeping the World Series minimally even if they 52 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 3: were to lose. 53 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying, but my point is he has a chance 54 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: to continue to produce. And I can't lie he ain't 55 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: showed up right now. It has definitely been no, hey, 56 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: no tany right now. I can't even deny he didn't 57 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: even just this year last last year. 58 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: Last year is bad. 59 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: This year is even worse. No, but all jokes aside, 60 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: he's performed badly. Uh, they have walked in so that 61 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: that has an advantage for him, the Dodgers. But here 62 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: here's the other thing too. It's not just the Robs, 63 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: just the one for twenty one. It's that how they're 64 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: taking full advantage of him on the inside, and he's 65 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: swinging at everything on the inside, swinging everything in the inside. 66 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: They and they have found that that he can't resist 67 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: that he's swinging uncharacteristically bad at some things. 68 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 3: He's striking out. 69 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: He's usually he doesn't have bad outs, even if you know, yay, 70 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: it's part of baseball. You're gonna you hit thirty percent 71 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: of something, you're gonna be good. He is having bad 72 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: at bats at times, which is unusual. Now this is 73 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: where he has the benefit. He still has so many 74 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: games ahead of him that we could potentially forget these 75 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: first couple of weeks. If he ends up batten you know, 76 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: four hundred, the rest of the rest of the postseason, 77 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: few home runs, a couple of big plays here that 78 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: maybe steals the base, whatever may be, and we can 79 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: forget that because that's just human nature. Dodgers win the 80 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: World Series second half was better for him. All will 81 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: be forgotten. What he has been bad I cannot deny. 82 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: There's no argument he has been bad. The only other 83 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: point I make is if he's they slayd him to 84 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: get on the mound. Later this series, he gets on 85 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: the mound, he gets no the opposite he throws six, 86 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: he throws seven, he throws five. But possibility, that is 87 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: a possibility. That also is what makes him this unicorn 88 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: and what can save him. So if he goes out 89 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: there and throws a six inning gym, maybe a hit 90 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: or two, but you know, no runs, goes out there 91 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: seven k's again, this is why you paid the man 92 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: seven hundred million dollars, so that thankfully the other side 93 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: of the coin is working because. 94 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 3: I can't deny it. 95 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: The at bats right now, I am fabulous and Nate Dogg, 96 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: I can't deny it. It is bad right now. There's 97 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: no way around it. And the best thing for him 98 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: is that his team keeps winning. That keeps giving him 99 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: more chances, more at bats, and more opportunities to rewrite this, 100 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: because I can't sit up here and act like if 101 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: this wasn't and Judge, we'll be having some conversations. Hey, 102 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: you good, this was a Rod in his run with 103 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: the with the Yankees. We'll be having conversations. Is this 104 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: for Mookie? Let's say it was Mookie prior to show 105 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: hey coming when he was the big star. We will 106 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: be having this conversation. So he absolutely deserves some concern. 107 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: He absolutely deserves some criticism right now. But fortunately for him, 108 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: the Dodgers keep winning and he has more opportunities to 109 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: change the narrative. 110 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 3: But he has to start tonight again. 111 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 4: Last year, I point last week, I should say, I 112 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 4: pointed out that the Dodgers bullpen had a chubby e 113 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 4: r Ra right in the eighth inning. Well, Otani is 114 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 4: the opposite as far as that. His postseason batting average 115 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 4: is a spelt one thirty eight. 116 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: That's hey, we all headphone eight no one eight, all. 117 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 4: Right, we want to hear from you. Eight seven seven 118 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 4: come on, so hey ninety nine on Fox. 119 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: I've been fighting for you. This man been downing you 120 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: all ye, I've been having your back all year. Hit 121 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: me with a law and order. 122 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 4: Are we waiting? Are you waiting for show hat to 123 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 4: show up? Because there's been two postseasons? 124 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: Now? What? What? What's the deal? You have another baby? 125 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 3: Am I missing something? Show? Hey? How disappointing? Are you 126 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: and watching show? Hal Tony? And is he not a 127 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 3: postseason guy? 128 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 4: Maybe he's a regular season guy that maybe he can't 129 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 4: perform in those big moments those six years he was 130 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 4: in Anaheim. He never had to get a chance to 131 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 4: play in the playoffs. Maybe he's not a postseason guy. 132 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 4: That Dodgers won a championship last year where he struggled 133 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 4: at the plate. 134 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 3: Okay, an extra dip on your chips. Okay, he hit 135 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 3: two thirty last year. They would die to have him 136 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 3: at two thirty. 137 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 4: This year he's one hundred, almost one hundred points lower 138 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 4: than he was last year, and he was batter. 139 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 3: Know what for you? And Rob g Okay. The best 140 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 3: part about put the camera on me. 141 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: The best part about it is he's gonna have at 142 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: least seven more games. He's gonna bat four hundred, hit 143 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: three to four home runs, and all will be forgotten. 144 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 145 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 2: the nation. 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Today, though Don Staley met 164 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 7: with the media for SEC Media Days, her Game Cocks 165 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 7: are ranked number two in the nation entering the season. 166 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 7: They are the current dynasty in me it's college sports, 167 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 7: and lest we forget, we were this close away from 168 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 7: that dynasty being over because Don Staley interviewed for the 169 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 7: vacant New York Knicks head coaching gig after they fired 170 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 7: Tom Thibodeaux before they hired Mike Brown, and it was 171 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 7: reported at the time nobody really believed until she said, no, 172 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 7: I interviewed for the job. I met with world Wide West, 173 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 7: I met with Leon Rose. I really respect those guys, 174 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 7: and they just, you know, the decision that wasn't made. 175 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 3: It is what it is. 176 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 7: Well today at SEC Media Days, she was asked about 177 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 7: the idea of women coaching in the NBA, especially at 178 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 7: the head level, and here's what she said. 179 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 8: If I'm the nixed coach and you have a five 180 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 8: game losing streak, it's not going to be about the 181 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 8: losing streak. It's going to be about being a female coach. 182 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 8: So you as an organization and a franchise. You have 183 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 8: to be prepared for that and strong enough to endure 184 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 8: those type of instances when you're gonna look for or 185 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 8: hire a female coach, Do. 186 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 2: You think it'll happen in your lifetime where women's coach 187 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 2: but no woman is. 188 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 8: I don't, and I hope I'm wrong. 189 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm gonna say I think it will happen. 190 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go to the opposite only because I think basketball, 191 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 4: of all the sports, is very viable where you look 192 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 4: at a woman having played basketball at a certain level 193 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 4: and then coach. I can't see a woman as a 194 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 4: managed baseball manager hardball. 195 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: Not soft like football. No, you know what I mean. 196 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 3: I can't. I really can't. And it doesn't mean that 197 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 3: they couldn't know. 198 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 4: About football being a some sort of coach or you know, 199 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 4: like that same. I know women play hockey too aboon 200 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 4: that level, but basketball is apples to apples, it really is. 201 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 4: The game is for the most part and more fundamentally sound. 202 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 4: When you say women, where can metamore athletic and above 203 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 4: the rim and all that kind of stuff and and 204 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 4: and whatnot. So I'm not positive I agree with her 205 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 4: that it's not gonna happen in her lifetime. I mean, 206 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 4: I didn't think that we'd see a black president in 207 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 4: the United States. I gotta be it, my honest, I 208 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 4: do that. 209 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: No, but I didn't. I really, I really didn't. 210 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 3: But I didn't. I don't know. 211 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 4: You might be right, but my point is, uh, if 212 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 4: there is a sport and and and she might be 213 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 4: right that they're not ready to do it now, you 214 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 4: know what I mean. But to say never, I just 215 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 4: think basketball, women's basketball, men's basketball. Men coach women's basketball 216 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 4: left and right, right. You don't have to be a 217 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 4: female to coach women's basketball. And I get it, it's 218 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 4: a male dominated business and sports and whatnot. But there 219 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 4: was something missing because Becky Hammond's was was on that 220 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 4: track to be a head coach in the NBA. She 221 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 4: was pop picked, her made, he put on the bench 222 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 4: with the Spurs. 223 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: She interviewed with a. 224 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 4: Couple of teams like like, and for whatever reason, nobody 225 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 4: pulled the trigger on her. I don't know if it 226 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 4: was something about her, you know what I mean, once 227 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 4: she got in there, you know that people like that 228 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 4: who should be coaches, who's the guy for the for 229 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 4: the Lakers forever? He finally got rob g finally got 230 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 4: a head coach Byron Scott. No, who's the other guy 231 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 4: was on the he was on what era with? He 232 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 4: was with Phil Jackson and he just could not Oh 233 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 4: my god, I cannot. 234 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 3: Remember that called a long time. 235 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 4: He finally didn't he finally get a head coach job. 236 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 3: You know who that is? 237 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 4: Now? 238 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 3: Sam Cassell? 239 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 4: Okay, Sam Cassell, there's another guy like Okay, he's being 240 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 4: paid his everybody's like Sam and whatever reason he's interviewed 241 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 4: for some jobs. They don't pull a trigger on Sam Cassel. 242 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 4: And they didn't pull a trigger on Becky Hammond's even 243 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 4: though she was set up for it. Like the rest 244 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 4: coach at the time in the NBA is like all 245 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 4: in on her, the endorsements, giving her a job that 246 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 4: no other woman had had on an NBA team, responsibility 247 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 4: when he was out, she coached, you know what I mean, 248 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 4: like everything, And it didn't happen in San Antonio, and 249 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 4: it didn't happen anywhere else. But do I really I 250 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 4: think that of all the sports, it could happen in 251 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 4: basketball because the games are so close? Are they ready 252 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 4: right now? 253 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: No? 254 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 4: But I. 255 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: Dawn said not in her lifetime. I disagree with that. 256 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: I strongly disagree with the in my lifetime. I absolutely 257 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: believe it's gonna happen. I believe it might happen in 258 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: the next decade. A couple of reasons why now. I 259 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: do think current political climate may need to change. That's 260 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say about that. But there's a couple of 261 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: reasons why the NBA Number one, The NBA is the 262 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: most progressive of all the leagues. 263 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 3: Right. 264 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: They usually try to be forward thinking. They try to 265 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: be ahead of the curb and certain things socially, politically, 266 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: and all those kind of things they try to do 267 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: that they've already integrated. It's almost like weird now if 268 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: you're an NBA team and you don't have a woman 269 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: on your your bench, you know, some type of coach, 270 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: some other assistant you know, whether film coach something, you're 271 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: some type of assistant coach. The Lakers here have in 272 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: LA have one as well, maybe even more. But so 273 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: it's not far fetcher. And I think inherently you mentioned 274 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: it because it's skilled to skill, like hoop is hoop 275 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: is hoop. You grow up playing ball, Dude, if you 276 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: go to a local twenty four hour Fitness La Times. 277 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: Right now, there's gonna be a lady, a couple of 278 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: ladies out. 279 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 3: There playing, no doubt about it. 280 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: And you don't think toy like Joe. She can hoop, 281 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: let's go hoop. She can shoot, she can shut, and 282 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: it's just natural. 283 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 3: I grew up. You're plenty of. 284 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: Like when I played Nancy Lieberman in that game exactly. 285 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: And you know what Nancy Lieberman is coaching in the 286 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: Big Three. You led me to where I was gonna go. 287 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: Nancy Lieberman is coaching in the Big Three wins is 288 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: very volidle and hostile and tough and aggressive and because 289 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: that's how they promote the league, and she's doing her 290 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: thing there. 291 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 3: You couldn't tell me that. 292 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: Dawn Staley, Cheryl Miller, Doris Burke, God blessed that past summer. 293 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: All there's a Hot Summit, I. 294 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: Mean Pat Summitat Pat Summit, there's a whole list of 295 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: folks that if they, dude, if I was in college 296 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: and r NBA and that was my coach, I'd be 297 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: don't even think to it. But I was coach Becky Hammond, 298 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: because you know, they know the game. Diana Tarassi, if 299 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: she all of a Sudden became a coach, If Sue 300 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: Bird became a coach, you'd be like, all right, whatever, 301 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: And it might be a little weird, and just because 302 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: you grew up with men, and there's certain little things 303 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: like you naturally think you got an arm around the coach, 304 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: you walk in the locker room, maybe there you know, 305 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: I don't know the rules, and maybe a little different. 306 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 3: I get that that's just human nature. 307 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: But ultimately I think you get over and I think 308 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: the NBA is very progressive in that regard. I fully 309 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: expect within the next ten years or so for someone 310 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: to do that. I think someone's gonna want to show 311 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: how bald they are, want to lead the pack, want 312 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: to give someone a chance. And you're you're right that 313 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: we all kind of thought Becky Hammond was on that track, 314 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: so it was shocking to see that she hasn't. But 315 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: she's still coaching very well in the w NBA, so 316 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: very well could end up being getting that opportunity because 317 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: she's doing her thing in the WNBA, winning championships as well. 318 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: So football, there's a physicality, there's a machismo, there's a 319 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: man thing. I think that won't allow it to happen right, 320 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: because the highest every high there's a few high school 321 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: players around the country that have a women athletes, girl, 322 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: young girls, young women. 323 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 3: But it's not like a thing. 324 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: There's more flag football, softball, Yeah, you play, but it 325 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: ain't baseball. You can hear it, and it's in baseball 326 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: for different sport, different mindset, different era. Has been around 327 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: for so long, and again I just think they'll be 328 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: slowly to slow to adapt that basketball is just not 329 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: crazy at all. And again Nancy Lieberman that it's a 330 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: really big thing that she's doing the Big three, because 331 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: to me it's another Big three is in the NBA. 332 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: But you need somebody to start slowly doing it. Then 333 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: you need a smaller school, not maybe like a smaller 334 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: d one like I went to Eastern Michigan. Right, you 335 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: need an Almah, the smaller d one Eastern Michigan to 336 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: have a coach, and then you start inching your way up. 337 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 3: But I don't I don't think it's far fetched. 338 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: I think in Don Staley, by the way, while she's 339 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: talking about it might not be in my lifetime. Don Staley, 340 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: you might get tapped on the shoulder again. 341 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 3: Maybe the next coach at Wisconsin Green Bay could be 342 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 3: a woman. 343 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: It's very possible. What are you saying, next, coach, It 344 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: could be like five years too. Yeah, Yeah, that's what 345 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm thinking. It'd be more like that, something like that. 346 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 3: Like that. 347 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 348 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 349 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 350 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 2: listen live. 351 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: A few weeks ago, Rob there were conversations and there 352 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: were some reports about the end of last season, how 353 00:16:58,360 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: it ended for the Dolphins. 354 00:16:59,480 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 3: What's been going on. 355 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: You have former players talking about what's happening in the 356 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: locker room. You and I talked about it a bit. 357 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: One of the concerns that I had with Mike McDaniels 358 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: is trying to be the cool coach, trying to be 359 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: the players coach too much, especially when you haven't won anything, 360 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: I think can be dangerous. We all want to be that, 361 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: we all want to be liked, and they had start 362 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: to struggle a bit, and they started we started hit 363 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: reports that you had Jalen Ramsey, you had Tyreek Hill. 364 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 3: They weren't showing up, They're missing. 365 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: Practices, they're showing up late to meetings or not coming 366 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: at all and you obviously had all the issues with 367 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: Tyreek where he left, you know, talking out I want 368 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: to lead the team, I want to get out of here. 369 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 3: Then he has to come back. They had to have 370 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 3: a team meeting for that. 371 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,479 Speaker 1: Then you had your leader in your quarterback say some 372 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: things the other day. 373 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 5: I think it starts with the leadership in helping articulate 374 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 5: that for the guys, and then what we're expecting out 375 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 5: of the guys, right, we're expecting this, Are we getting that? 376 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 5: Are we not getting that? We have guys showing up 377 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 5: to only player only meetings late, guys not showing up 378 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 5: to player only meeting Like, there's a lot that goes 379 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 5: into that. Do we have to make this mandatory? Do 380 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 5: we not have to make this mandatory? So it's it's 381 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,959 Speaker 5: a lot of it's a lot of things of that 382 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 5: nature that we got to get cleaned up. And it 383 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 5: starts with the little things like that. 384 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, when I heard that, that was the moment I 385 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: realized he might need to update he's linked in because 386 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: it's one thing and you know this as as a 387 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: reporter for many years, it's one thing that was, no, 388 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: don't come over here to tell me abody've been doing 389 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: this since nineteen eighty something, I say, for a long time. 390 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 3: And my point is. 391 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: It's one thing to hear a rumor or report or 392 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 1: kind of some unknowing sources or some player that that happens, 393 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: and it very well could be true. But you can 394 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: say that's just outside noise. It was last year's players. 395 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: You can understand it. Even though we know after the 396 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: first game where they had the season players only meeting 397 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: right off the band. You can't start the season off 398 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: already having a players. I mean, that shows me there's 399 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: some dysfunction in the off season. Tyreek Hill trying to 400 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: come back, they have to have a meeting about him. 401 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: That a whole bunch of stuff's going on. When your quarterback, 402 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: who is normally soft spoken, who is normally trying to 403 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: say the right thing, do the right thing, be a 404 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: podium guy, is screaming this. This is a major indictment 405 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: coming from you know, your the face of the franchise 406 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,479 Speaker 1: in this case, in your quarterback. And I think that 407 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: is an indictment on him. On my McDaniels. And this 408 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: is one time I will say losing is the issue, 409 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: because had they been winning right now, they're one and four. 410 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: If they were you know, three and two or something 411 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: or four and one, we might not be having this conversation. 412 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 3: But you can't be losing. 413 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:42,959 Speaker 1: And then when you start to look at the numbers 414 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: of where they are, they're in the bottom third of 415 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: offensive stats, are like twenty fifth, sixth seventh offensively, and 416 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: you cannot be that bad when the sign of what 417 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: you are. You were a wonder kid, you were the 418 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: the you know, the smart genius kid offensively, and they 419 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: had an amazing year in twenty twenty three. Put up 420 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: a seventy piece. I thought it was the Miami heat plan. 421 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: And now our offensive terrible, offense is bad. Were down 422 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: to the bottom of the pack, and all of these 423 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: offensive stats and our own leader in a quarterback franchise, 424 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: quarterback is calling out leadership. That's that's It can't get 425 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,959 Speaker 1: more damning to me, because it would be different if 426 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: you said that, but our offense was crazy. We're number 427 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: one in this number two and that number three, and 428 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: that that's damning. Rob And I just think that the 429 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: riding is on the wall. And that's almost to me. 430 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: If it's as an agent, you're starting to feel calls, 431 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: you start to look for opportunities. 432 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 4: Well, when you don't win, if you're not a part 433 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 4: of the solution, you're a part of the problem. And 434 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 4: we talked about it before. I mean, sports is real simple. 435 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 4: I know it's cliche and I've said it a million times. 436 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 4: Sports has a short menu and this wins and losses, 437 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 4: and you're going to get fired when you don't win. 438 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 4: Then one in five correct, five. 439 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 3: One to five, Yeah, you're gonna get fired. And it's 440 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 3: this bad and it looks this bad and then they. 441 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: Coach it in like Doug told you, No, you're proud 442 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: of the problem. Yes, you're proud of the problem right now, 443 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: one and five. Like, I mean, you know, I know 444 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: some people said you are what your record says you are, 445 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, you know, don't do that, thanks Doug. 446 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 3: I mean, he's setting some things up around there. They're 447 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:26,479 Speaker 3: building something. 448 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: You know. 449 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: Time doesn't work, like you saying, my third fourth year, 450 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: I should already have it together. 451 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, you should have them together. You say, I'm offensive, 452 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 3: offense stinks nobody. 453 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 4: We don't live that world anymore. And that's the big 454 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 4: thing there is there used to be. New coach came 455 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 4: in a five year plan, the quarterback would sit the 456 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 4: first couple of years. Those days are long, nobody, They're 457 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 4: not waiting for anybody. 458 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 3: Every year. 459 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 4: You're retooling your team, trying to win. Now, what we 460 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 4: gotta do to try to win? Now? Right, you're not 461 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 4: you're in Cleveland. Let's bring the forty year old quarterback. 462 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 4: We need to win games. Now you're the Pittsburgh Steelers. 463 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 4: All right, we'll just we got a great story tradition. 464 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 4: We'll just rebuild. Let's get a young quarterback, let's go 465 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 4: for a couple of years, and then we'll be ready. No, No, 466 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 4: nobody's doing that, because that's not where we are in 467 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 4: sports anymore. People are trying to do whatever they can 468 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 4: right now to give themselves the best chance to win. 469 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 4: When you're having issues with a coach not winning, and 470 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 4: now there's the other stuff that comes out, and you 471 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 4: know that, the dirty laundry always comes out when things 472 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 4: on going. When you're winning, nobody's saying anything because basically, 473 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 4: for the most part, let's you're aj Brown, you're not 474 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 4: saying anything. But you get my point. So I'm not 475 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 4: shocked by this, not shocked by the conversation, not shocked 476 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 4: that people are out there and this stuff is happening, 477 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 4: and you're right McDonald, Well he'll be he'll he'll be 478 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 4: whacked sooner than later. I don't know when is there 479 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 4: by rob guh. I have to look that up because 480 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 4: there might there might have been an opening coming up, 481 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, after. 482 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 3: The next game or so, where they might decide to 483 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 3: make a change or something. Yeah. 484 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: It actually, uh, they they must have already had. 485 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 5: You. 486 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 3: I think they already had already. That's their bye. That's 487 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 3: too late? Is that the second Thankgiving? That's they ain't 488 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 3: had it? They got that. I mean they're about to 489 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 3: suffer and they got lost. 490 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 4: They got they got like the last by right, I 491 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 4: mean November twenty third. 492 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 3: My goodness, man, that about this is about to be 493 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 3: a brutal hill. You know what's crazy is we just 494 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 3: did back to back. 495 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 7: Satan's talking about the Bears and the Dolphins, right, and 496 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 7: the narratives around each team is so different. If Miami 497 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 7: can hold Justin Herbert from getting a forty yard completion 498 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 7: on third down, they win last week. If Jayden Daniels 499 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 7: doesn't fumble the ball with nobody touching him, the Bears 500 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 7: lose last night. 501 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 3: The Bears won two weeks ago off of block. 502 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 7: Field goal against the Raiders, which they would have lost 503 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 7: that game too, And it's just interesting how they win. 504 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 7: Caleb Williams not really playing very well, they've been very sloppy, 505 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 7: but they win and it's like, hey, everything's cool, we're progressing, 506 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 7: don't worry about it. Miami has had the lead in 507 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 7: like four of these games in the final minutes to 508 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 7: use it, and it's like, hey, fire the coach, quarterbacks, 509 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 7: gotta go. 510 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 3: They got a leadership issuit. 511 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: Here's why number one. He did what you're not supposed 512 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: to do. It's great to do in real life. 513 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just crazy how if, yeah, one play goes 514 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 7: different in this game, they're three and two and they're 515 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 7: right there. 516 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 4: But what you just said is what we talk about 517 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 4: all the time. What is the ultimate It's about winning 518 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 4: and losing. Not how you do that, but winning and 519 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 4: losing and if you win those games, rob g and 520 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 4: if you're right or if those things go your way. 521 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 3: It's just like we talked about it. 522 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 4: It is about winning and losing and that and and 523 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 4: winning covers up everything. 524 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 3: It's the ultimate makeup in sports. 525 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 4: It covers up the flaws of the blemishes and you 526 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 4: and you turn your head. 527 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 3: And go, oh, what do you want? What do you 528 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 3: want to do? Cry over? We won. 529 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 4: The Dodgers didn't go like, oh no, we don't want 530 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 4: to win that game because the pitcher threw it over 531 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 4: the catcher's head on an easy play to first base. 532 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 3: They won the game. And you know what they did. 533 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 3: They moved on. They don't care. They moved on. They won. 534 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: And I think the problem too Rob g his first 535 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: I think two out of the first two to two 536 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: out of three seasons they went to the postseason. So 537 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: he had success early. Right, you can't go backwards. You 538 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: can inch your way up like and I hate to 539 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: use ma example Tim and Dan Cambell. 540 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 3: It looks bad, but it getting better. It looks bad 541 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 3: getting better, not good. 542 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: You can't go playoffs, playoffs seventy piece looking good to 543 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: a lead in the league in passing, just got a 544 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: new contract like and then fall off and fall off bad. 545 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: And it can't be both on the field and off 546 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: the field issues. That's the part, right, So if you're 547 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: if you're a struggling even the Bills, for example, they've 548 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: had enough success that they struggled for a while then 549 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: you say, all right, they're having a rough little goal, 550 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: but they've had they've been building up and had success. 551 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: You can't start here and just all of a sudden 552 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: go back and then lastly have your leader, your franchise 553 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: quarterback come up. That's when you Tua never says anything. 554 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: When Tua says that. 555 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 3: That's saying a lot. 556 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 7: And it didn't help that the coach came out and said, well, 557 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 7: he's probably talking about one person, and the next day 558 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 7: he comes out and says, yeah, that was a misguided comment. 559 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 7: So when the quarterbacks saying there's a leadership issue, the 560 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 7: coach is saying, waldough, they're falling the things I'm saying, 561 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 7: I don't know what the problem is. 562 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 3: That tells you they got real leadership problem. That's the 563 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 3: point right there.