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Speaker 1: Smell us now, Lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain

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Speaker 1: Time at seven pm for our Olympians listening in Italy

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Speaker 1: on Thursday, February twelve, and we're live from Meat Eater

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Speaker 1: HQ in Bozeman. I'm your host, Spencer, joined today by

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Speaker 1: Seth and Maggie. On today's show, we'll interview doctor Zach

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Speaker 1: Graham about some of the world's rarest crayfish. Then we'll

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Speaker 1: have a hot tip off about wal tents and duck breasts,

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Speaker 1: followed by an interview with Emily Davis about collaring predators

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Speaker 1: and the Grand Tetons. And finally, Seth and Maggie will

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Speaker 1: compete in Meat Eater's prices. Right, but first, Maggie Hot though,

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Speaker 1: our director of web content has a few important updates

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Speaker 1: for us out of Minnesota and Florida. Maggie, the floor

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Speaker 1: is yours. Where are we starting Minnesota or Florida?

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Speaker 2: Oh, let's kick it off with Florida.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So, Angler's health advocates and First Amendment advocates are

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Speaker 3: all fighting against a provision that's in Senate build two

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Speaker 3: ninety in House built four thirty three, And what this

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Speaker 3: provision does is it expands on existing food liberal laws

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Speaker 3: which basically we're set in place to protect perishable.

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Speaker 2: Goods from being.

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Speaker 3: You know, spoken poorly against two it was a protection

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Speaker 3: for agriculture, okay. And so now what's happening is that

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Speaker 3: this is being expanded to cover non parish perishable goods

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Speaker 3: agricultural practices, and it throws on one way attorney fees.

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Speaker 3: So sort of what could happen with this is if

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Speaker 3: you are like an influencer and you make a post

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Speaker 3: about how you don't like glyphosphate on your food, okay,

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Speaker 3: you could be sued by whatever ag company for making

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Speaker 3: a claim about this if you don't have like scientific

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Speaker 3: studies that you're citing. So it sets this tone of

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Speaker 3: like not wanting public critique and conversation. It's sort of

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Speaker 3: this like muzzling of public input.

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Speaker 1: And how does this affect hunters and anglers? Though?

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Speaker 3: In Florida, so the organization Captain for Clean Waters has

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Speaker 3: been sort of battling against a big sugar that's you know,

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Speaker 3: it's ag but it's an industry and they've there's been

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Speaker 3: studies that were released, I believe in twenty twenty two

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Speaker 3: that directly correlated Big Sugar with Lake Okechobee.

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Speaker 2: The red algae.

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Speaker 3: Blooms that were coming from that, And you know, these

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Speaker 3: Florida captains were seeing this. The algae blooms started in

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Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, but they were, you know, they were raising

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Speaker 3: the alarm for this in twenty eighteen. But if they

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Speaker 3: didn't have that study, they could have been sued. They

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Speaker 3: would have had to pay all of the attorney fees

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Speaker 3: for the defendant and the plantiff. So it's just like that,

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Speaker 3: it would remove the ability to have those conversations to

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Speaker 3: bring up that kind of stuff because people would be

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Speaker 3: so afraid of the legal fees and just you know,

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Speaker 3: the hassle of being taken to court for using your

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Speaker 3: First Amendment right.

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Speaker 1: Already a challenging thing to do, even when there's not

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Speaker 1: the threat of legal action like that, And so this

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Speaker 1: just makes it even more crippling for hunters and anglers

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Speaker 1: and conservationists in Florida. Meggie has covered this story very

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Speaker 1: well on the meat eater dot com. She recently had

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Speaker 1: an article Florida bilth Retin's public advocacy for Land, water

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Speaker 1: and Wildlife. Where does this bill stand right now.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, read that because that's a better overview than

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Speaker 3: what I just gave you right now. But currently, the

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Speaker 3: Senate stripped the provision, but it still exists in the

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Speaker 3: House bill, so orgs like Captains for Clean Water are

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Speaker 3: keeping the hammer down, keeping the pressure on, hoping to

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Speaker 3: bill as well. So it's good progress, but the fight's

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Speaker 3: not over on that yet.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 1: You'll see more updates, you know, on our website at

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Speaker 1: the medeater dot com. You'll hear them on this podcast,

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Speaker 1: and then we also have a new social channel called

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Speaker 1: meat Eater News that is meant to cover things just

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Speaker 1: like this, so hunters and anglers are just more informed

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Speaker 1: in general. All right, let's talk about Minnesota. What's going

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the vote on the Boundary Waters HGR one has

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Speaker 3: been delayed in the Senate until February twenty third. I

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Speaker 3: think everybody here is probably pretty well versed on what's

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Speaker 3: the reason that was delayed is because people are raising

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Speaker 2: They're being heard. That's why this was paused.

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Speaker 3: You know, if you don't live in Minnesota, if you

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Speaker 3: don't live in Florida, Like, these issues impact everyone because

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Speaker 3: they set a tone. You know, if if this bill

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Speaker 3: You know, the same thing in like a mining setting

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I'm blinking on what it is? The

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Speaker 3: uh the congressional.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, having a brain.

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Speaker 1: There are two you may in the observation before we

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Speaker 1: turn on the mics. There're two unrelated bills that are

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Speaker 1: very related, especially right now in this time and moment.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and it impacts conservationists across the country. And the

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Speaker 3: more that we can have this like unified voice, the

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Speaker 3: better we chance we have at protecting these wild places,

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Speaker 3: even if it's not your home, even if you don't

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Speaker 3: recreate there often like raise your voice because it could

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Speaker 3: be in your backyard next time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of ways to stay updated on this.

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Speaker 1: One of the best that I've found is BHA emails.

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Speaker 1: It seems like the minute something happens or is about

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Speaker 1: to happen. If if there are rumor circulating that seem

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Speaker 1: act on behalf of yourself and fellowhunters and anglers and conservationists.

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Speaker 1: So BHA newsletter is a great great thing to watch again,

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Speaker 1: as well as the Meat Eaternews, the meeteater dot Com,

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Speaker 1: and our future news podcast. It's coming in about a

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: Joining us on the line first is ecologist doctor Zach Graham.

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Speaker 1: He's here to talk to us about his new book

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Speaker 1: called Crayfish, Crawfish, Crawdad, The Biology and Conservation of North

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Speaker 1: America's favorite crustaceans. Doctor Graham, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: How you doing, Yeah, thank you all for having me.

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Speaker 5: Very excited to be here talk about these animals.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Our first question, what do you call them crayfish, crawfish, crawdads,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I call them crayfish generally. It's kind of like

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Speaker 5: and so most people around Pennsylvania are calling them crayfish.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we've talked about on the show in the past,

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Speaker 1: Is there anything like that when it comes to crayfish, Like,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it tells you a little bit about where they're from,

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Speaker 5: call them crayfish, crawfish, or crawdad. The other thing, you know,

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Speaker 5: is kind of like a saying with among crayfish biologists

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Speaker 5: So like the scientists call them crayfish, if you are

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Speaker 5: eating them, you call them crawfish, and if you're fishing

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Speaker 6: So sometimes people are.

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Speaker 5: Calling them different names based on their interaction with them,

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Speaker 5: but most scientists will call them crayfish.

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Speaker 1: And we are looking at a heat map here of

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Speaker 1: what parts of the country call them different things. The

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Speaker 1: hottest spots on that map look like Deep South Louisiana,

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Speaker 1: Part of Pennsylvania is hot for crayfish, and then the

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Speaker 1: PNW looks like they prefer crawdad. A very interesting visual

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Speaker 1: you can see on the Media to Podcast YouTube channel.

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Speaker 1: During this interview doctor Graham, about seventy percent of the

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Speaker 1: world's six hundred ish crayfish species are found in the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so this is something that's really cool, is that

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Speaker 5: crayfish are kind of like an American group of animals.

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Speaker 5: There's crayfish around the world, but most of them are

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Speaker 5: in the Eastern United States. And so the reason that primarily,

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Speaker 5: amazing freshwater biodiversity, primarily because of the Appalachian Mountains, which

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Speaker 5: are very very old, hundreds of millions of years old,

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Speaker 5: even compared to the Rocky Mountains, which are surprisingly relatively new,

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Speaker 5: even though they're much higher. So it all has to

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Speaker 5: to a lot of really unique freshwater biodiversity.

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Speaker 1: Love that. All right, let's talk about some of the

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Speaker 1: more unique species of crayfish. Tell us about some of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, these are some of my favorite because when we

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Speaker 5: of about thirty percent of crayfish species that they're called

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Speaker 5: burrowing species, and what they do is they essentially live

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Speaker 5: like terrestrial animals. They live on land, but they dig

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Speaker 5: their burrow, and then they live down there pretty much

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Speaker 5: their entire life, and most people never get to see one.

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Speaker 5: But they're really unique.

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Speaker 1: Are there any other animals that use those chimneys that

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Speaker 1: they make, or is that's exclusively for those burling crayfish.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so they build it for themselves, but it essentially

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Speaker 5: is like a nice little climate controlled environment, and so

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Speaker 5: tons of animals love to kind of hijack the burrow

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Speaker 5: or use it after the crayfish passes away. So snakes, frogs, salamanders,

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Speaker 5: there's a lot of animals that like to use these burrows.

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Speaker 7: Doctor Graham, I got a question for you. Are those

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Speaker 7: crayfish that are making those burrows, are they coming out

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Speaker 5: the root matter of the plants. Some of them, though,

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Speaker 5: we have observed and studied how they sit at the

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Speaker 5: wait as a predator. But then they also probably forage

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Speaker 1: Tell us about some of the species that live in caves.

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Speaker 1: Our listeners like to catch and cook crayfish, So give

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Speaker 5: So funnily enough, I am deathly allergic. Whoa, Yeah, it

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Speaker 5: so I do not eat them, but I condone eating them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, that's a good threat. I like that

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Speaker 1: they have that power over you, that they could kill

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Speaker 6: It's very ironic. I think it's kind of meant to

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Speaker 1: Doctor Graham's Crayfish Crawfish Crawdad dropped last month and it's

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Speaker 1: available wherever books are. So doctor Graham, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 6: Yep, thank you all appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Before the show, Seth was telling me about a theory

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Speaker 1: I bought my first crayfish fly last summer, did not

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Speaker 4: He has no idea cut a claw off of it.

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Speaker 8: I want to know.

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Speaker 3: I want to know why bottom feeders are so delicious crayfish, crabs, lobsters,

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Speaker 1: All of our listeners now are going to be better

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Speaker 4: That's saltyt That's salty.

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Speaker 1: Hot tip Off is where two listeners go head to

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Speaker 9: Marked your croot, Hey meat eater, coming at you today

436
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 9: with a hot tip off. My hot tip is to

437
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 9: use a car port instead of a wall ten. I

438
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 9: picked up a carport on clearance for one hundred and

439
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Speaker 9: fifty bucks and we brought it into the shop here

440
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 9: and we did some retro fits to it. We permanently

441
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 9: connected some of the joints, we labeled and made quick

442
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 9: attached fasteners for the other joints just using bolts and

443
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 9: wing nuts, and some of the pieces of pipe we

444
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 9: eliminated them all together and replaced them with some PBC

445
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 9: condo it to make it a lot lighter. So now

446
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 9: we take a carport up to Bear Camp with us

447
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 9: every year and in about fifteen minutes we've got the

448
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 9: whole thing thrown up and installed. It's rigid, strong, it's

449
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 9: a good place to keep our gear nice and dry,

450
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Speaker 9: and uh sometimes it's just a good place to get

451
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Speaker 9: away from the mosquitoes. So that's my hot tip is

452
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 9: to use a car fork instead of a Walton's.

453
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 4: Austin rides am I editor Crue.

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Speaker 10: This is Austin from Arkansas, and I got a hot

455
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 10: tip for y'all. I'm preparing some goose for this weekend

456
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 10: that we killed this season. I got some cube up

457
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 10: right here that we're gonna put on some kebabs. And

458
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 10: then I got some whole breast that I'm gonna pan

459
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 10: s here and roast in the oven with some potatoes

460
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Speaker 10: and some carrots and stuff. And man, I just love

461
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 10: to lead the skin on my goose, my duck. It

462
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 10: just makes it more flavorful, more moist. You get a

463
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 10: little crisp on there. I just think it's altogether better.

464
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 10: The only problem you run into is you get all

465
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 10: these these pin feathers on here, I mean, and they

466
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,959
Speaker 10: are just a headache to take off. And there's all

467
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 10: sorts of methods. I see people that burn them off.

468
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 10: I see people that pluck them by hand, and all

469
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 10: that just takes time. Burning them stinks and it just

470
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 10: gets meticulous. So what I thought of, I went down

471
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 10: the dollar store by the old cheap raizor just the

472
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 10: cheapest one you can find, and you just take this,

473
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 10: take this goose right here, and just.

474
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Speaker 4: Give them a little shaved shave goose. It's a little

475
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 4: shave just all over.

476
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 6: He don't need no shaving cream, he don't care anymore.

477
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 6: You just shave him.

478
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 10: Don't worry I have to worry about nicking them. And

479
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 10: then I mean, this thing gets clogged up.

480
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 4: He just rints it off. I mean, look at that.

481
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 10: I mean they're just coming off and it is just

482
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 10: this one's already done. I mean, not a pin hair

483
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 10: on that thing.

484
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 4: Look at that.

485
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Speaker 10: So that's my tip for y'all. Hope y'all like it.

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Speaker 4: Y'all have a good one.

487
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: Okay. The live chat is going to decide who wins

488
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: the one hundred dollars Media to Store gift card. Phil

489
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: is going to put up a pull between markh the

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Speaker 1: carport wall tent man and Austin the duck best razor.

491
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 4: Pull is live. We'll give you a minute or two here.

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00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: Maggie, what do you think who would get your vote?

493
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: Between Mark with the waltent and Austin with the razor man.

494
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 2: Wal tents are expensive.

495
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 3: I've been looking into wal tents and like, now I'm

496
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: gonna start looking at Facebook marketplace for carports.

497
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 2: But also I want to try shaving a duck or goose.

498
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 11: Now.

499
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 2: I like them both. I think I think they're both

500
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 2: good tips.

501
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: You gotta vote for one.

502
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 3: I'm skeptical of the shaving. Okay, so I'm going carport

503
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 3: all right, I'm skeptical until I try it.

504
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: He showed us some evidence there on the cell phone

505
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: video that certainly had some feathers that the razor caught.

506
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: But we'll see, Seth. What do you think Mark or Austin? Personally,

507
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 1: I think this is the closest one, Like they're hot tips.

508
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

509
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 7: Typically, I'm like, I know, I'm going with this one

510
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 7: for sure. Yeah, but this one, I'm like, Man, I

511
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 7: have to think about both. But at the end of

512
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 7: the day, I like being frugal, and the carport wall

513
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 7: tent I think takes a w for me Ka just

514
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 7: because it's simple, it's it's cheap and seems like it

515
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 7: would work.

516
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: Two votes for the carport wall tent. I'm gonna give

517
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: it to the duck breast razor that that did look

518
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: pretty effective to me, and that's a situation that it'd

519
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: be nice to have a very effective way to get

520
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: those or they pin feathers what are they called to

521
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: get their small feathers out of the fat of a

522
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: duck breast. Mark's carport wall tent extremely well done. That

523
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: looked to me like some buddies who wanted to get

524
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: together for you know, like six nights in a month

525
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: and drink some bush lights. Yeah, and have a little

526
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: project to work on. And that's a lot of fun.

527
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: I love that Mark did that, and I trust that

528
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: that gets some good use at bear Camp. Both very

529
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: hot tips. So on that note, we are going to

530
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: empty the clip on hot tips for our very last episode.

531
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: We may have five or six or ten of these matchups,

532
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: so you only have a couple weeks left to send

533
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: us your hot tips at radio at the medeater dot com. Again,

534
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: it should be a one minute video on your phone.

535
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: Shoot it vertically for us, and then if you have

536
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: a good one that gets submitted, we're going to use

537
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: it in that very last episode, So get those sent

538
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: to us. Phil, what is the chat think?

539
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 4: I'm going to give him thirty more seconds because it's

540
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 4: close enough that the tide could turn in that amount

541
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 4: of time. So, okay, I'm not voted in the live chat.

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00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 4: Get your votes in. You have a few more seconds left.

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00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: Okay, where does it currently stand?

544
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 4: Currently? Still, I'll tell you the split that I'm not

545
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 4: going to tell you who's winning the first place contested?

546
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 4: Is that only a fifty two percent.

547
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: That is close car clothes could swing it. You should

548
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: see that carport wall tent you can. You can see

549
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: that on the mediater podcast YouTube channel. Mark was gracious

550
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: enough to show it in action at bear Camp.

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00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 4: Wonder how it does in the wind.

552
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: I was wondering that too. You know, it's it's not

553
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: going to function just like a wall tent, but you

554
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: know a good place to maybe cook it or store

555
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: gear out of the rain.

556
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 7: And I guess if it just gets totally demolished by

557
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 7: the wind, you could just go buy another one for

558
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 7: that's one hundred whatever.

559
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: Dollars, start another buddy project in your garage.

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00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 4: It is now tied. Oh no, as soon as I

561
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 4: see someone jump up and the poll, all right, what

562
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 4: do we got? It was meant to be because this

563
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 4: person wasn't the lead for the entire thing. With fifty

564
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Speaker 4: one percent of the vote, just barely, I think by

565
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 4: maybe one vote. The winner is Austin with the goose shaving.

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Speaker 1: Okay, he is going to get the one hundred dollars

567
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: media the gift card. That is the closest hot tip

568
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: off we've ever had. Seth identified it that way, and

569
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: the chat agreed two very hot tips from Mark and Austin.

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00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break for some listener feedback. Phil,

571
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: what's the chat have to say?

572
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is from Spencer question for the crew. I

573
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 4: have an alligator ero amount skull which is drying and

574
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 4: splitting up the noes. Is there something I can put

575
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 4: on this skull to keep it from drying or cracking

576
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 4: up the snout? Thank you?

577
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 3: Maybe like some bees wax or something bees wax would

578
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 3: be good.

579
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: I have no idea.

580
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 4: You know we were talking about earlier.

581
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 7: There's this group of dudes that hunt or dig for

582
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 7: fossils in Montana, dinosaur fossils, and they use that paleo glue.

583
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 7: It's sort when they expose a bone, they hit it

584
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 7: with that like right away, so it doesn't like dry

585
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 7: out and crack. I wonder if something like that would work.

586
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, on a lot of Like there's some fossils I

587
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: find that come out of the ground very moist, and

588
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: then they take a lot of time to dry, and

589
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: in that time they will kind of like get warped

590
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: like they'll they'll if they were straight before now they're

591
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: shaped like a U. I hit a lot of those

592
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: with lacquer right at the beginning. I don't know if

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00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm doing it good. I've seen other paleontologists do a

594
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: similar thing like Seth is talking about. So we don't

595
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Speaker 1: have the perfect answer for you there, Spencer. You're gonna

596
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: have to experiment and and find out for yourself. But bees, wax, lacquer,

597
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: pale glue. Those are the three recommendations from us. What

598
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: else you got?

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00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 4: Phil Master Chief John Halo himself asks, are y'all doing

600
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 4: trivia at the NWTF after party again this year?

601
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 3: We are.

602
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: We will be there. That after party is on Friday night.

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00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: It will be me, Jannie Klay, Newcombe, Brent Reeves. We

604
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: will be hosting the after party and there will be

605
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: some trivia that is done by the audience. That means

606
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: you guys are answering questions about yourselves at the game

607
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: we call meat poll. So we will have trivia there.

608
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: And if that's not enticing enough to get you out

609
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: there again, come shake Clay Newcomb's hand and tell them

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00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: a bear hunting.

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00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 4: Story Timee's lines has a simple question, do you guys

612
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 4: have some summer fishing trips planned that you're excited about?

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00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, what do you got? Seith?

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00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 7: Well, just hitting local stuff here of course, for some

615
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 7: bass and walleye, and then heading out to Saginaw Bay

616
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 7: to do some fishing. What I'm here, that'll be in June.

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00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 3: Okay.

618
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 4: I'll be a little film thing too.

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Speaker 1: That'll be fun, so you guys will be able to

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00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: watch that at some point, Maggie, fishing trips.

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Speaker 3: I'm taking my niece on her first backpack in that

622
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 3: country fishing trip.

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Speaker 1: How old?

624
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: Nice she'll be five five?

625
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: Is she ready?

626
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 2: She's ready?

627
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: Okay.

628
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 3: She doesn't know anything about fishing or backpacking, but perfect.

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Speaker 2: She'll have a good time.

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00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,959
Speaker 1: Any other big trips this summer not planned.

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Speaker 3: I'll get up in the mountains, we'll take the boat out.

632
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 3: I'm bad at planning ahead, but there will be fishing.

633
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: Okay.

634
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 4: Cool.

635
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: My two big fishing trips this summer. I'm going to

636
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: go to the Columbia River in Oregon and catch some

637
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: white sturgeon. I've never done that before. Metafela at a

638
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: donut shop in Oregon a few years ago, and he said,

639
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: if you ever want to come catch our big old

640
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: white sturgeon, hit me up. And whenever someone offers me

641
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: something like that, I say, don't offer that unless you're

642
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: willing for me to take it. Take you up on

643
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,479
Speaker 1: that offer, because I'm gonna do it, and I did.

644
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go visit him and we're gonna catch some

645
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: big old sturgeon. The other one is I'm going to

646
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Speaker 1: go to the Boundary Waters this summer as well. I

647
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: spent a couple of days there last year, just passing

648
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: through on my way to Asle Royal, and I loved

649
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: it so much I started planning my next trip right away.

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00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: So and make a solo trip out there with my kayaks.

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Speaker 1: Try to get into some bass and walleye and some

652
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: panfish sounds fun cook them up while I'm there, Phill,

653
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: Let's do a couple.

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00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 4: More yeah, free crank asks. Can we still get radio

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Speaker 4: live like once a month or once a season, maybe

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Speaker 4: special events, maybe for deer season or elk season or

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Speaker 4: spring turkey?

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Speaker 1: What do you think, Phil, Yeah, we can do that.

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Speaker 4: We had a few times we flirted with.

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Speaker 1: The idea of maybe doing some primetime radio lives, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe like a six pm show a few times a year.

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Speaker 1: We don't have anything set in stone yet, but radio

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Speaker 1: live we've we've talked about it as its sunsetting not dying,

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Speaker 1: so you know the sun rises again.

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Speaker 4: That's what they say about people with alzheimer.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that one.

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Speaker 4: Let's see, just found out. This is from Nate. Just

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Speaker 4: found out that Unit two goose season in South Dakota

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Speaker 4: goes till February fourteenth. Do I take a trip to

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Speaker 4: chase Honkers on Valentine's Day or keep my marriage intact?

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Speaker 4: What would you do?

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Speaker 2: Take your sweetheart with you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Obvious answer. Yeah, unless she absolutely hates it. It's probably

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Speaker 4: not how she wants to spend her Valentine's Day if

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Speaker 4: she has other interests.

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Speaker 2: South Dakota's for lovers, right, that's as they say.

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Speaker 1: Is it Virginia?

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Speaker 7: Actually yes?

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Speaker 4: Ohio, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I saw somebody ask on there about have Alena hunting tips?

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Speaker 7: Phil.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw that question.

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Speaker 4: If you want to know, summarize the question.

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Speaker 2: No, I just want to let him know to keep

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Speaker 2: an eye out that.

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Speaker 3: We got an article about that from Jim Heffelfinger coming

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Speaker 3: on the site. Okay, should be live today or tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: depending on how much work I get done after this.

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Speaker 1: You can now get in the record books with the

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Speaker 1: big old Halvellina.

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Speaker 4: We'll do one more here, Well, let me see if Yeah,

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Speaker 4: we've got our next guest waiting, so we'll do one more.

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Speaker 7: Here.

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Speaker 4: Say is for Seth from Garrison. Question for Seth. I'm

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Speaker 4: studying forestry in college and I'm realizing that it's not

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Speaker 4: really something I want to do for living. Oh how

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Speaker 4: did you go from your forestry degree to breaking into

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Speaker 4: another industry? Well, what I'm doing now is just kind

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Speaker 4: of a hobby. So you're getting paid for Yeah, No,

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Speaker 4: I I planned on doing.

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Speaker 7: Forestry stuff for most of my life and then would

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Speaker 7: picked up a camera and started shooting photos on the side,

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Speaker 7: and kind of one thing led to another, and here

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Speaker 7: I am so.

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Speaker 4: Not really in your will.

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Speaker 7: I didn't experience what your experience. I kind of wanted

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Speaker 7: to be a forester all through college, but I don't know.

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Speaker 7: It's not too late to change.

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Speaker 1: One thing, I'd say to Garrison. We've talked about this

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Speaker 1: before on trivia. We had a trivia question about this

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Speaker 1: profession in the United States has the happiest people. This

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Speaker 1: was a stat that pulled I don't remember how many

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Speaker 1: dozens of different careers and the number one happiest profession

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Speaker 1: was foresters. So Garrison may maybe think about how happy

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Speaker 1: that would make you versus doing something.

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Speaker 4: I will say.

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Speaker 7: On day one the forestry school, our professor said, how

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Speaker 7: many raise your hand if you guys would like to

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Speaker 7: make a decent amount of money someday, And like everyone

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Speaker 7: raised their hands. She goes, you've chose the wrong major.

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Speaker 2: That's what they say to all the fun majors.

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Speaker 4: That's but you're outside all the time, so it's great.

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Speaker 7: There you go.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna do our next interview.

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Speaker 3: Now, all right, we got Emily Davis. She's a PhD

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Speaker 3: student at the University of Wyoming currently studying how wolves, kyletes,

728
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Speaker 3: and red foxes coexist and the Greater Yellowstone Eco System.

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Speaker 2: Emily, Welcome to Radio Live.

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Speaker 3: Hello, thanks for having me. Glad you're here. Are you

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Speaker 3: currently out and about in the field.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, we're out digging out traps because it snowed a

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Speaker 11: foot over the night last night, so wow, wouldn't have

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Speaker 11: allowed any foxes to get in. But those are all

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Speaker 11: the people doing the real work over there. They just

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Speaker 11: got dumped on by snow from a tree too, so

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Speaker 11: perfect for the camera. But yeah, we're out, finally able

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Speaker 11: to ski. They drug this trap in yesterday over dirt,

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Speaker 11: so it's nice to have a foot of snow on

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Speaker 11: the ground.

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Speaker 2: Makes it a little easier.

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Speaker 3: Huh. Well, tell us a little bit about your research

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Speaker 3: and why you're trapping foxes.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, so this project has kind of been coming into

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Speaker 11: itself for a long time. The park has historically monitored

746
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Speaker 11: foxes across the landscape. Because foxes are really cute, people

747
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Speaker 11: have learned to feed them. That in turn has allowed

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Speaker 11: foxes to become pretty habituated and learn how to sit

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Speaker 11: for food in.

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Speaker 8: A lot of cases.

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Speaker 11: And so, actually, my previous lab Mae Emily burke Holder

752
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Speaker 11: also my best friend, actually study the red fox population

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Speaker 11: in Grand Teton and looked at how they used human areas.

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Speaker 11: But this project specifically includes coyotes and wolves to kind

755
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Speaker 11: of expand on this idea of trophic interactions from the

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Speaker 11: large predator to the smallest predator, to see how they

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Speaker 11: interact on the landscape, how they share space, time, and food.

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Speaker 11: There's this historic understanding that you know, wolves reintroduced thirty

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Speaker 11: years ago, and this idea that when wolves come in

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Speaker 11: they decrease the meso predator population or coyotes through competition.

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Speaker 11: And prior to that, anecdotally there's a lot more coyotes

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Speaker 11: on the landscape, but through wolf reintroduction, the kyotepopulation has

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Speaker 11: anecdotally been limited, which has allowed the red fox population

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Speaker 11: to rebound. And so while that's a really beautiful story

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Speaker 11: and I think it's awesome to think about, it's probably

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Speaker 11: way more nuanced than that. So we are finally at

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Speaker 11: this time where we have enough technology to get really

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Speaker 11: fine scale data on these animals. So we have collars

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Speaker 11: on wolves, coyotes, and red foxes, hence the trapping that

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Speaker 11: are all synced up at the same time, so we

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Speaker 11: can actually get where they are at the land where

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Speaker 11: they are on the landscape. We also are doing backtracking

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Speaker 11: to collect their scat to get DNA at a bar

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Speaker 11: coding done on their diet to see how often they

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Speaker 11: share resources or don't share resources across the park and

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Speaker 11: the greater landscape. We're using anonymized cell phone data to

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Speaker 11: get at human pressure on these animals because the park,

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Speaker 11: although beautiful and seemingly serene, obviously has a lot of

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Speaker 11: visitors and very heavy visitation in the summer, so I'm

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Speaker 11: sure that makes an impact on how they share the landscape.

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Speaker 11: And we're just incorporating a lot of cool technology that

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Speaker 11: hasn't really been available before to ask these questions, and

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Speaker 11: a lot of the questions have previously asked are very

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Speaker 11: coarse and just like where are wolves in this area?

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Speaker 11: Where are foxes in this area? But we're really diving deep,

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Speaker 11: deep into it.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome, And your research is pretty much conducted during

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Speaker 3: the winter months, right you guys aren't out here trapping

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Speaker 3: in the warmer months of the year.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, we trap foxes in the winter because bears are

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Speaker 11: out in the summer. And I think it would be

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Speaker 11: and we use really smelly lower gusto and which is

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Speaker 11: skunkluer and red fox luer, but the bears would probably

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Speaker 11: be keyed into that pretty heavily, and we don't want

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Speaker 11: a little fox stuck in a trap while there's a

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Speaker 11: bear around.

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Speaker 8: That would be pretty horrible.

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Speaker 11: But yeah, they it's also their breeding season right now.

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Speaker 11: So we've caught six this year so far. We have

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Speaker 11: fourteen more callers to put out. We caught fifteen last

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Speaker 11: year for callers, and so we're hoping it picks up

802
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Speaker 11: and we're hoping they're starting to seek their mates out.

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Speaker 11: The snow was a bit of a change, so hopefully

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Speaker 11: they'll come out tonight because the snow's a bit heavy.

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Speaker 11: But yeah, most of our most of the fun works

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Speaker 11: in the winter, and it's been pretty awesome to skier

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Speaker 11: around out here. We do have some summer work checking

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Speaker 11: cameras and stuff, but most of it's.

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Speaker 10: In the winter.

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Speaker 7: Emily.

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Speaker 1: In July, there was a lot of coverage of the

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Speaker 1: park and a specific fox there. The New York Times,

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Speaker 1: among other places, had a headline Beware of Swiper, a

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Speaker 1: fox at Grand Teeton Park who steals shoes. Are you

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Speaker 1: familiar with that fox and can you tell us more

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Speaker 1: about him or her?

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Speaker 11: Yes, we are familiar with that fox. That was the

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Speaker 11: second fox we trapped last year. Our name for him

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Speaker 11: is actually Lee Roy or in joking terms, Leroy, because

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Speaker 11: he was trapped up near Lizard Creek campground and actually

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Speaker 11: two of the people that are here right now went

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Speaker 11: and found I think.

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Speaker 8: Three shoes for him. But he's he's collared and he's.

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Speaker 11: Actually a pretty trapped, happy fox. So we caught him

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Speaker 11: this year, recollared him. But yeah, I heard that. I

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Speaker 11: heard a trivia question from you guys about him, and

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Speaker 11: my boyfriend was like, call him up, tell him his

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Speaker 11: real name, and I get Swipers, like a pretty good

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Speaker 11: name for him, but we call him Leroy and he's

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Speaker 11: he's a pretty funny fox interact with. But the people

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Speaker 11: would ask me questions about like what's it about, Like

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Speaker 11: do they cashed and stuff, And we just think he's

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Speaker 11: got a fetish for shoes because they didn't find like

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Speaker 11: a pile of shoes or anything. We think he's just

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Speaker 11: messing with people, and they're kind of, you know, funny

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Speaker 11: in that way. We've seen some interesting behaviors of them.

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Speaker 11: We actually had He's not the only fox to steal

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Speaker 11: something urtech. Jess had makes her own Kinko gloves with

839
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Speaker 11: like pictures on them, and we usually set them on

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Speaker 11: the ground to put our phone on to get awesome

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Speaker 11: videos of their release. Yeah, this is the fox and

842
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Speaker 11: she that fox got released, immediately went to Jess's phone,

843
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 11: stole that Kinko glove, ran off. We have an awesome

844
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Speaker 11: video of us all slow mowing running off after the

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Speaker 11: Fox couldn't find them in the project bought Jess Moore gloves,

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Speaker 11: but I like to think we like to think that

847
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Speaker 11: she had it up in her den as like artwork.

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Speaker 11: So but yeah, they're weird little animals.

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Speaker 2: Great stories of about Larroi.

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Speaker 3: But before your PhD work, you did some really cool

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Speaker 3: research with your master's degree as well with bears.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, can you talk about some of the stuff you

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Speaker 3: did with bears for your masters For sure.

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Speaker 11: I've been really lucky to have two really awesome projects

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Speaker 11: and through the University of Wyoming with my advisor Joe Holbrook.

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Speaker 11: So my PhD works in collaboration with Game and Fish

858
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Speaker 11: is mostly primarily with Granteeton National Park, and then my

859
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 11: master's work was collaborative with Wyoming Game and Fish. And

860
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 11: so the reason that project came about, we call our

861
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Speaker 11: black bears and we looked at their movements. But the

862
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Speaker 11: reason that project came about was actually shockingly, hunters came

863
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Speaker 11: to the American Bear Foundation founder Joe Condilas and Game

864
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Speaker 11: and Fish and we're like, you know, we can't get

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Speaker 11: large males over bait sites, so it'd be awesome if

866
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Speaker 11: you guys could figure.

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Speaker 8: That out for us.

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Speaker 11: And of course hunters know tons about bear behavior. So

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Speaker 11: what we found when I talked to hunters, they're like, yeah,

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Speaker 11: no crap obviously. But that project started in conjunction with

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00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 11: American Beer Foundation to kind of understand male behavior around

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Speaker 11: risk taking and bait sites. But it also started because

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00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 11: Wyoming wanted to understand population dynamics of black bears across

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00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 11: the state because that hasn't been done, and so they

875
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 11: started collaring females I think in twenty fifteen to get

876
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 11: their home range size, to put hair snare work out

877
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 11: to do demographics on them, and then I got attached

878
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 11: onto the project, mainly primarily for the caller data. And

879
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 11: so we we have one chapter published, which is awesome.

880
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 11: That chapter is pretty nerdy and not super fun to

881
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 11: talk about with anyone besides people that want to nerd

882
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 11: about how cool bears.

883
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 8: Are and how individually varied they are.

884
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 11: But our second chapter is currently in review, and that

885
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 11: chapter is looking at how bears take risk around bait sites.

886
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 11: And it's a pretty cool way to ask this question

887
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 11: because obviously bears are hunted, so there's risk, there's mortality

888
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 11: risk on the landscape for this large carnivore obviously, but

889
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 11: they bait creates this uni dynamic where this there's this

890
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 11: high reward area too, and so what we actually found

891
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 11: was males did avoid baits more than females, and both

892
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 11: sexes actually shifted to using bait sites more at night.

893
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 11: Males also shifted more at night, so we kind of

894
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 11: found that there is this difference in mortality risk across

895
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 11: the black bear population. And there's the bait site information

896
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 11: was from the Big Horn Mountains and the Laramie Range

897
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 11: specifically the other chapters on the whole state.

898
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 8: But we found that.

899
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 11: Males probably handle mortality risk a little differently than females

900
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 11: and younger bears, probably because you know, hunters don't want

901
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 11: to shoot young females, even though they're hard to tell

902
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 11: sometimes unless you have a really really knowledgeable hunter that's.

903
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,959
Speaker 8: Over a bait with you. But yeah, so it's pretty

904
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 8: interesting to see.

905
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 11: That young female bears are interacting with that high reward

906
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 11: food source more than males. And we also found that

907
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 11: obviously hunting pressure varies greatly in the from the spring

908
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 11: to the fall, especially in the Big Horn Mountains where

909
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 11: people can't sometimes put out baits differently, and Wyoming has

910
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 11: a female quota system, so it kind of depends on

911
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 11: if how many females are getting shot at that time,

912
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 11: if people are going to shoot the first bear they see.

913
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 11: But we found that bears are actually more likely to

914
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 11: engage with baits during fall during hyperphasia when they want

915
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 11: more food, which we had originally hypothesized that you'd take

916
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 11: less risk when you have more fat, more food.

917
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 8: More resources.

918
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 11: But bears are always doing things differently than we expect,

919
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 11: which is why I love them. They're kind of a

920
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 11: pain to study, but they actually engaged more with bait sites,

921
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 11: which makes a lot of sense when you think about

922
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 11: a fat bear eating all the time prepping for denning,

923
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 11: which is what we got to do too.

924
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 7: But yeah, Emily, back to the fox trapping. I'm a

925
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 7: trapper myself, so I'm really interested in this. What kind

926
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 7: of sets are you using, What kind of traps are

927
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 7: you using? And I know you mentioned Gusta, which I'm

928
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,959
Speaker 7: real familiar with. What other stuff like, what other types

929
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 7: of baits and lures are you using?

930
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, we use so we use Tomahawk traps.

931
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 11: We trap in the park, so we're restricted to box Trapskay,

932
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 11: They're they're bobcat traps from Tomahawk, you know, the like

933
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 11: real skinny ones. Because foxes are real skinny. We use Gusto,

934
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 11: which we think pulls them in pretty good. And I

935
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 11: just want to shout out to my field team here,

936
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 11: Austin Lindsay and Jess because they're the ones doing.

937
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 8: The real work. But you know, they've they've been out

938
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 8: there sticking their hands.

939
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 11: And gusto and red fox lure, which is that disgusting,

940
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 11: sweet smelling lure.

941
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 8: But yeah, without snow, it's been harder.

942
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 11: But we've been we know, set the traps up, We

943
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 11: put pine boughs around them to create a cozy little

944
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 11: home for them, and uh, we use roadkill ground up

945
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 11: road killing little bait balls to try to entice them.

946
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 11: But we hope that the bait entices them to go

947
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 11: on the back of the trap and then really the

948
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 11: lure is what's pulling them in from afar uh. But

949
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 11: so far it's been pretty successful. They had a lot

950
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 11: of success with it when Emily was first trapping here. Obviously,

951
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 11: we've got a bigger crew and we have skis, so

952
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 11: we're able to get a little bit further away from

953
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 11: areas off the roads in the park. Oh and one

954
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 11: big thing for trapping is we've noticed that fox urine

955
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 11: is really helpful.

956
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 8: We actually just have a.

957
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 11: Giant gallon of it that we refill a little sauce

958
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 11: bottles that you buy at Target, and we spray it

959
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 11: around and we're always talking to each other about like,

960
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 11: oh we need pea and the people that come out

961
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 11: with us.

962
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 4: Another question, are you catching bobcats at all in those sets?

963
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 7: No?

964
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 8: Actually, no, and we don't. We've never seen a bobcat

965
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 8: on camera.

966
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 11: We actually this year, first time, we actually had two

967
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 11: different mountainlines coming to do different traps and eat a

968
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 11: little bit of food up front.

969
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 8: So that's surprising.

970
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 11: It's been a weird winner though usually we're not getting

971
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 11: anything but foxes and a ton of Martins. Martin's are

972
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 11: problem children off the park, so we catch them a lot,

973
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 11: but this it's been a weird winner, so it's just

974
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 11: been hard to predict. But no, we don't get we

975
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 11: don't even get bobcats on cameras.

976
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: Really a what about wolverines? Do they ever interact with

977
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 1: your sets?

978
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 3: No?

979
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 11: I think all of us would be so excited if

980
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 11: we saw wolverine on camera. And actually, our helicopter crew

981
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 11: that flew for us last year because they they helicopter

982
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 11: fly and capture for wolves and coyotes, they actually saw

983
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 11: wolverine from above, but none of us have been lucky

984
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 11: enough to get that on camera.

985
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 2: So well, thanks so much for taking the time to

986
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 2: chat with us.

987
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 3: Emily, I hope you guys catch some foxes tonight and

988
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 3: look forward to seeing when those next few interesting chapters

989
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 3: of your research get published.

990
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 8: Awesome. Thanks and Maggie, you gotta come out with us.

991
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 8: You gotta work up of fox with us. They're pretty fun.

992
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 2: Will do I would love to?

993
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 8: Awesome? Okay, thank you, Thanks you guys.

994
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: Meg you got to take her up on that offer.

995
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 2: I know I want to.

996
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 4: That was a real offer, it was. That sounds like

997
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 4: a fun job.

998
00:50:59,160 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 7: Mm hmm.

999
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: Beautiful scene that she was in there today.

1000
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1001
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: Just fresh snow on the mountains.

1002
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 3: Which is surprising because she's about an hour north of

1003
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 3: me and it's been mud season winter.

1004
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 2: It is a we have not had a foot of

1005
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 2: snow on the ground.

1006
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 1: It's about snow.

1007
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 7: If those bears like out and about with this weather,

1008
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 7: if they just go in and you know, even though

1009
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 7: it's warm, should ask for.

1010
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 4: That next next.

1011
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: All right, Moving on, Our next segment is meat Eater's

1012
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: Price is right.

1013
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 9: Here.

1014
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 4: It comes from Bozeman, Montana Media Radio's most exciting ten minutes.

1015
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 4: It's the price is right Chef Morris, come on now,

1016
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 4: Snaggy Hublow, come on down contestants on media radios. The

1017
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 4: price is right now, here's your host, Spencer new.

1018
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: It always brings it all right, This game is really simple.

1019
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: Phil is going to tell you about a product from

1020
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 1: the meat Eater universe, and you need to guess its price.

1021
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: The player with the closest answer without going over will

1022
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: be declared the winner. If both players go over, then

1023
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: you'll both be told to try again, and the chat

1024
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: should play along as well, because whoever has the closest

1025
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: answer to the correct answer, we'll get a shout out.

1026
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: All right, there are three products up for bid today, Phil,

1027
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: get it started.

1028
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 4: Our first item up for bid today is a blue

1029
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 4: tarp from Harbor Freight. At eleven feet by eleven feet,

1030
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 4: this iconic cobalt colored tart gives you one hundred and

1031
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 4: twenty one square feet of coverage. It's waterproof and weather proof.

1032
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 4: Laughing in the face of rainstow and wind.

1033
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: Ha ha.

1034
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 4: What will you do with yours? Cover a grill, maybe

1035
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 4: keep firewood dry, build an emergency shelter, or let it

1036
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 4: blow into your neighbor's yard. The possibilities are tarpless, but.

1037
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: They won't be tarpless any longer if your price is right,

1038
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 1: Seth and Maggie, what does that eleven foot buy? Eleven

1039
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 1: foot blue tarp from Harbor Freight cost. Don't watch the

1040
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: chat too close because the chat likes to cheat.

1041
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 2: Dude, I can't hardly read that far.

1042
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 1: There's not good students. So Phil is going to keep

1043
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: an eye on the chat though, and see who can

1044
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: get closest. Uh, Seth, when's the last time that you

1045
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: brought that you bought a blue tarp?

1046
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 7: Um? Trying to think within the last year. Uh not

1047
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 7: within the last year, in the last two years. Uh No,

1048
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 7: I wouldn't even say in the last two year. I

1049
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 7: have several, but I bought them several years ago and

1050
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 7: they just keep it. I have a couple that I

1051
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 7: need to replace. Actually, so maybe I'll be buying one

1052
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 7: in twenty six and actually I'm sure I will be.

1053
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: When's the last time you bought a blue tarp?

1054
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 2: A blue tarp? Blue tarp they just exist in the garage.

1055
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: You don't buy blue tarps.

1056
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 3: There's just showing just an endless pile of blue tarps

1057
00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 3: that you grab.

1058
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: From that's right, of all different sizes, and some of

1059
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: them have paint on them. Yeah, some are missing the

1060
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,439
Speaker 1: little rivet. You know where you tie things down. Yeah,

1061
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: everyone's garage just has a blue tart portal that produces them.

1062
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: So we're going to see who knows the price. It's

1063
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 1: eleven foot by eleven foot? Are you two ready?

1064
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 4: Ready?

1065
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 1: Go ahead and reveal your answer. Set says nine ninety

1066
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: five Maggie's twenty.

1067
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 2: Two dollars eleven plus eleven.

1068
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: The correct answer is nine nine.

1069
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 4: Four pennies off.

1070
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: Well done, Set, That is going to be hard to beat.

1071
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: How did the chat, new Fiel?

1072
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 3: Oh?

1073
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 4: Pretty well, we had several correct answers round the money

1074
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 4: from Harrison, Mike js Co, Ryan Daniel.

1075
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 1: Great job, everybody, a lot of blue tart purchasers out

1076
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: there knowing that they cost exactly nine ninety nine. That

1077
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: gives seth Morris the first point in today's game of prices?

1078
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 4: Right Art, Phil?

1079
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 1: What's next?

1080
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 2: Told you it's going to be bad at this game?

1081
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 4: Is your grand foyer feeling a little empty? Well, how

1082
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 4: about adding this one of a kind piece to it.

1083
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 4: Our next item up forbid is an entire pleasiosaur skeleton.

1084
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 4: Wow Jesus. This seventy million year old dinosaur was found

1085
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 4: in the Sahara Desert of northern Africa. It measures eighteen

1086
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 4: feet and weighs five hundred pounds, which actually makes it

1087
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 4: a small specimen for a species that grows fifty feet long.

1088
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 4: It has an elegantly long neck, streamlined marine body for

1089
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 4: a dramatic paddle like flippers, and a fierce tooth lined jaw.

1090
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 4: This isn't just a conversation piece. It's a conservation center piece.

1091
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: Oh that was a type of Oh it's supposed to

1092
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: be conver yeah, conversation.

1093
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 4: Okay, let's just take that again. This isn't just a

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00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 4: conversation piece. It's a conversation center piece.

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00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 1: That's right, Phil, And this Jurassic piece of sea life

1096
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: can be yours if the price is right. Seth and Maggie,

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00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: what do you think it costs to own an entire dinosa?

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00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 3: I was?

1099
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 4: I was, this is like a little hint.

1100
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,720
Speaker 7: I guess, but I was, uh, the hell creek cooligaan

1101
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 7: Instagram page what we were talking about. I saw they

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00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 7: sold t rex too the other day for like thirty

1103
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 7: five grand Oh wow, okay, oh okay, it helps you

1104
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 7: at all.

1105
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 1: Seth has a reference. This is it's eighteen feet long

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00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: and weighs five hundred pounds. And this was priced by

1107
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: the fine folks at the Fossil Shack in Utah. They

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00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: do great work. If anyone in our listening audience is

1109
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: looking to purchase an entire dang dinosaur, they have multiple

1110
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: for sale.

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00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 2: Good to know.

1112
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, Maggie and Seth, do you have your answer? Yes,

1113
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: go ahead and reveal your answer. Set says four point

1114
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: two million. Maggie says three point one million. The correct

1115
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: answer is lower than both of those. Take another stab

1116
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: at it so we know it's less than three million dollars.

1117
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: They're coming up with their second batch of answers, an

1118
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:09,720
Speaker 1: entire pleaseosaur skeleton. Maggie, are you ready reveal your answers?

1119
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: Seth says one point eight million. Maggie says one point

1120
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: seven The correct answer is lower than both of the fs.

1121
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: Take another swing at it. We have had three tries

1122
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: before in the prices right, we have never had four.

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00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: We'll see if we can set a record with Seth

1124
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: and Maggie today he is less than one point seven million.

1125
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: Seth has his answer, Maggie, do you have yours? Those

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00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: are all fail Your answer Maggie says one dollar less

1127
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: than a million, and Seth says one dollar.

1128
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 4: Like a strategy.

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00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: The correct answer is four hundred and seventy five thousand dollars,

1130
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:54,439
Speaker 1: giving Seth sec points and the victory. He was only

1131
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: four hundred and seventy five thousand dollars off, but that

1132
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: was good enough.

1133
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 4: That size cheaper. It's way cheaper, and I thought that

1134
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 4: is cheaper. We have several people get pretty close, but

1135
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 4: the closest without going over, I believe, was wonder Weld's

1136
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 4: with four forty.

1137
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, well done.

1138
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go buy one of those tonight.

1139
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: I mean, if we all pitched in, maybe, Yeah, Seth

1140
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: has two points, he's wrapped up to victory. We'll see

1141
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: if he can get the clean sweep and get this

1142
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: third one correct as well. All right, Phil, what do

1143
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: we have next?

1144
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 4: Are you struggling to find the perfect last minute gift

1145
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 4: for your Valentine?

1146
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1147
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well how about getting them sixty pounds of live crayfish,

1148
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 4: which everyone knows is the most romantic of the freshwater crustaceans.

1149
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 4: Of course, these live mudbugs would make our first guest

1150
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 4: today proud. They are rushed to your door with overnight

1151
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 4: shipping straight from Louisiana. This sixty pound batch has roughly

1152
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 4: twelve hundred crayfish that will feed ten to twenty people.

1153
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 4: Order by four pm today to have them in time

1154
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 4: for Valentine's here's the fine print. Due to DNR restrictions,

1155
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 4: we can't ship to Alaska, Hawaii, Washington, Michigan, Illinois was content. Pensylvania, Minnesota.

1156
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 4: Organ Laberqui's crafish transportament included that fine print reading was

1157
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 4: so great.

1158
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: If you don't know, on TV, they always speed that up.

1159
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: They hit it like, you know, times two point twenty

1160
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 1: five speed. Phil, he just did that all organic. I

1161
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: was sixty pounds, sixty pounds of live crayfish.

1162
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 4: I got my calculated getting shipped right to your door.

1163
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: Oh and we're not kidding. We're not kidding about them

1164
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: being the most sexy shellfish. In Jamaican culture, crawdads are

1165
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: considered an aphrodisiac, with local lore saying that eating crayfish

1166
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: will help you get lucky. Phil, Can you deliver this

1167
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: next line with a Jamaican accent?

1168
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd love to hear you. Yeah, mon, gonna get

1169
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 4: my Valentine. Some crawdaddies on love.

1170
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: Couldn't trip up Phil. Phil did not want to do

1171
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: the Jamaican accent. He said that would get him canceled,

1172
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: And Phil is I know cancelable?

1173
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 3: What if?

1174
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: What if?

1175
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 10: Phil?

1176
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: What if I was like singing along to Shaggy and

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00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: I it was very respectful and honor bull and I'm

1178
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: peer of heart.

1179
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 2: Singing along to Shaggy be respectful enough.

1180
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: Of course, if you're singing you know it wasn't me.

1181
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: Of course you could do that, Peer of Heart. It's

1182
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: a song about cheating.

1183
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 4: Will let you do that during the finale extravaganda?

1184
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: Oh okay, right, so Phil says, it's okay. That's that's

1185
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 1: when it's fine.

1186
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 4: Well, we've we've we've blocked out three hours for Shaggy karaoke.

1187
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: So now you are bidding on an extra Spicy batch,

1188
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: which is their hottest option. The shipping cost is calculated

1189
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: as though they're arriving at Meat Eater HQ. So it's

1190
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: sixty pounds of live crayfish Extra spicy getting shipped overnight

1191
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: right here to our front door.

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01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 2: How are they live and extra spicy?

1193
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: I imagine they send you a pack with it that

1194
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: you add to the boil afterwards. I don't think they're

1195
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: pre seasoning the live crayfish. Yeah, I don't know that.

1196
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna call him out because he's a he's a

1197
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 4: I've seen his name in the chat a lot. He

1198
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 4: watches the show many weeks. His name's Garrett Spranger, and

1199
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 4: I know that he cheated. So Garrett, shame on you.

1200
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 4: I'm calling you out.

1201
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: Okay, you've been identified sixty pounds and this this Seth,

1202
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: you said you are looking for the perfect Valentine's Gift

1203
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: live crayfish.

1204
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's too late.

1205
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: It's not And when I said four pm, that means

1206
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: four pm tomorrow for our podcast. They will literally get

1207
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: it to you overnight. I don't I don't understand how

1208
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: they pull that off. But the perfect Valentine's Gift is

1209
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: awaiting you. Do you have your answers? Go ahead and

1210
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 1: reveal your answers. Seth says three hundred and sixty dollars

1211
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: he got out of his calculator to do his math.

1212
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: Maggie says two hundred and forty dollars. The correct answer

1213
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: is six hundred and forty eight dollars, twice the price

1214
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 1: that Seth thought it was, but good enough to give

1215
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: him the point and the clean.

1216
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 4: Sweet, clean, sweet all now that that is wrong.

1217
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: Six hundred twenty dollars for the crayfish and twenty eight

1218
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: dollars for the overnight shipping.

1219
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 4: That's right. I see Garrett included the price without the shipping,

1220
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 4: and he got it right on the money. So that's

1221
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 4: why I'm calling him out. Maybe he's just incredibly smart.

1222
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 4: He's a rain man over there, but I would see

1223
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 4: two f fast guests six twenty five and we had

1224
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 4: somebody else guests six hundred rob.

1225
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 1: So thanks for playing along, everybody, and remember help control

1226
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: the pet population. Have your pets, Spade and Newtered. All right.

1227
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: That brings us to the end of today's show, Phil.

1228
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 1: Let's get some final feedback from the chat.

1229
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jacob asks Spencer, how is your Ham Special light

1230
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 4: stash and when do we kick off the campaign to

1231
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 4: get it back.

1232
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: I have multiple cases left Seth was just in my

1233
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: garage and saw them up where they are kept. The

1234
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: problem is they are starting to not taste like Ham

1235
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 1: Special Light, so I just had to start rifling through them.

1236
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 1: I had this very romantic idea about, you know, maybe

1237
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 1: if I have kids, someday when my son is old

1238
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 1: enough to have his first beard, you know, like sixteen

1239
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: years old. But I don't think they can make it

1240
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: if we had to that baby lack of cigarettes. So

1241
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: I kinda have to wait sixteen more years. That's that's

1242
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: too long. They're not going to make it. So I'm

1243
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: in the next year, next two years, I need to

1244
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: get rid of it.

1245
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 4: Maybe you could share some during the grand finale.

1246
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: There is an idea seth Well, said Phil. What else

1247
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: do you have from the chat?

1248
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,439
Speaker 4: Yes, this is from riding. He's asking when Blood Trail

1249
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 4: season two is coming out? The hit show from Jordan Stillers,

1250
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 4: and it's we're hard at work on it. And by we,

1251
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 4: I mean Jordan and Jake are the illustrious producer of

1252
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 4: this show as well. He is the editor of that show,

1253
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 4: and they're they're they're cranking out season two right now,

1254
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 4: so stay tuned. I don't know if there's an exist

1255
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 4: year though, yes, if Jake Pipe's in here, he says,

1256
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 4: April sixteenth, I believe, so that's not it's not a

1257
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 4: firm date, but I think around there is when you

1258
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 4: can expect it this spring. Yes, has any of you

1259
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 4: fished Lake Havasu?

1260
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 6: No?

1261
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: No, okay, we had a trivia question about it before.

1262
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 1: Where I think the world wreck shell cracker was caught

1263
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: there though someone was asking about fishing Lake Habsu. Maybe

1264
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 1: try to catch the next world record shell cracker while

1265
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: you're there.

1266
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's there might be some more questions, but Price

1267
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 4: is right. I'm not you know, the check. It's time.

1268
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 4: It's taken over. So I don't have many flagged right now.

1269
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 4: So if you guys want to get questions in here

1270
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 4: at the end of the show, I will say that

1271
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 4: we had a We wished good luck to McCullough on

1272
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 4: her first Havelena hunt during the show last week, and

1273
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 4: she was successful. We were sending some pictures and I'm

1274
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 4: gonna we can.

1275
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 1: Share those next week, Phil Convenience.

1276
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 4: That's fine, okay. Oh, yes, we had some questions about

1277
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 4: all the Soul the Sportsman shows happening. Uh this season?

1278
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 4: Is anyone from the crew going to be in Harrisburg?

1279
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 4: Is Randall going to Harrisburg?

1280
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: I think Randall is going to the one in Utah,

1281
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: the Western Hunt exposing.

1282
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 7: He's going to Western Brent Reeves was in Harrisburg's still there,

1283
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 7: but he was at the case booth.

1284
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 4: M Okay, he was there.

1285
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 1: That's a tricky show because that one like two whole weeks,

1286
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 1: isn't it ten days? Ten days?

1287
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 7: If you are there though, and you want to check

1288
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 7: out some meat eater merch and some first light gear,

1289
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 7: hit up center boot company booth, say hot to my mom,

1290
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 7: she's there.

1291
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: Did you go to that when you were a kid?

1292
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 4: Was that like calendar?

1293
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 11: Oh?

1294
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, what did you do there?

1295
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 1: Did you were there some trout for you to catch

1296
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: in tanks?

1297
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 3: Uh?

1298
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 4: There was that.

1299
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 7: I never did that, but we would just walk around

1300
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 7: and look at stuff, and you know, like Fantasiz dudes

1301
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 7: would be there, and Lee and Tiffany and Yeah, you

1302
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,439
Speaker 7: just go look at boats and look at all there's

1303
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 7: like a whole call section you like, check out the

1304
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 7: new calls for the year, just all it. Yeah, it's

1305
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 7: it's a huge show. I think it's the biggest east enormous.

1306
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 7: It might be the biggest in the country. Definitely biggest

1307
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 7: east of the Mississippi.

1308
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you have a trade show in your neck

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01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: of the wood, you should go check it out. The

1310
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: Turkey one that we're going to this week. That one

1311
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 1: is like the biggest assault on all of your senses,

1312
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 1: Like just the sound of all the calls. It's constant,

1313
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: just the bright lights and all the you know, the camouflage,

1314
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 1: everything happening there, the smells because you know, there's a

1315
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: lot of cooking happening there. Go check one out. You'll

1316
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 1: have some tired feet after the day. You'll be happy

1317
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 1: you saw everything. Anything else film.

1318
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,479
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I have to answer this one. I'm so sorry.

1319
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 4: It's it's video game related. Brandon is asking if I

1320
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 4: ever played Guitar Hero. Brandon, I was guitar Hero, that

1321
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 4: is true.

1322
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 1: What was your favorite song?

1323
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 4: That picture I showed during Radio Live either a week

1324
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 4: or two ago from the band room with a trombone

1325
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 4: in my hand and the long emo hair. What you

1326
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 4: What I didn't say was that after the band I

1327
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 4: would throw my trombone in the back of my ninety

1328
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 4: seven Geo Metro drive home and play Guitar Hero and

1329
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 4: you know, just beat all my high scores that I

1330
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 4: set the night before. I never stopped playing Guitar Hero.

1331
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 4: I played Rock Band. I got every single achievement in

1332
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 4: Rock Band two. There's one called the endless setlist, or

1333
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 4: you have to play like eighty five songs in a

1334
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 4: row without pausing the game. I did it. Oh, it

1335
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 4: was a long time, but there are some that have

1336
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 4: instrumental breaks. So that's when I sprint to the battle

1337
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 4: income like you know, like like a drum solo or

1338
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 4: you know, where the guitar is not not happening, And

1339
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 4: I had to I had to plan those. I had

1340
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 4: like a little like a notepad and I was like

1341
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 4: to take a break during this song because there's a

1342
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 4: long and just a few months ago, I bought an

1343
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 4: electric drum kit and a converter so I can play

1344
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 4: rock band with a family, the real drum set. I

1345
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 4: tried to get my family into it. They don't care.

1346
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 4: It's a very sad.

1347
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 3: You know.

1348
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 4: Fill is a solo.

1349
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: Active Yeah, right, he's he's the headliner and the opening act.

1350
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 1: He's everything.

1351
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a fulfilling one.

1352
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 1: What was your favorite song, Phil, Well, that's how do.

1353
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 4: I choose that? I mean, I really liked from If

1354
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 4: We're Gonna Go Rock Band one, well, Guitar Hero one,

1355
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 4: Hangar eighteen from Mega Death. I was out one or two.

1356
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 4: It's just half that might be two, might be getting

1357
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:03,479
Speaker 4: my lore mixed up. But any of the metal songs.

1358
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 4: For Guitar Hero, we're the most fun because it was

1359
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 4: just purely guitar, so those those are a lot of

1360
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 4: fun to play.

1361
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 1: Phil is so good that one time I don't remember

1362
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 1: what establishment we were at, but there was a Guitar

1363
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 1: Hero arcade game.

1364
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I was at the Tap the Tap House

1365
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 4: on College there.

1366
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 1: Phil played it didn't put up a great score, and

1367
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 1: he said that the machine was broke.

1368
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 4: Well, no, I believe making sound You're making me sound

1369
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:28,640
Speaker 4: like a sore loser. How you just say, from from

1370
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,560
Speaker 4: literally from from two decades of playing rhythm games, that

1371
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 4: I know when a machine is not calibrated correctly, and

1372
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 4: unfortunately the greasy arcade cabinet in the back of the

1373
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:41,600
Speaker 4: brewery wasn't calibrated correctly. I don't want to be one

1374
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 4: of those people it says the controllers broken and when

1375
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 4: I lose. But guess what, the controller was broken.

1376
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 10: You know.

1377
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 1: That's how good Phil is. I did believe him when

1378
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 1: he told me that, I had no doubt that he

1379
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 1: was right and the machine was wrong.

1380
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 4: Okay, well, I'm so I'm sorry I took that much

1381
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 4: time to talk that. It's okay.

1382
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 1: That is the end of this week's show. We're going

1383
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 1: to end right there. We'll see you act your same

1384
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 1: time and place next week.

1385
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 4: By now later. Oh no, I didn't play the outro.

1386
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 4: We're still here.

1387
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 3: No,