1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: This is Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous in Depth. 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: We promised it and it's out. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 2: Yes, we have Rodney Matthews with us today for an 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: in depth episode. He has a lot going on in 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: his life, a lot of really cool things, a lot 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: of exciting things. I feel like this is a celibratory 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: episode and I'm pumped to talk to him. 8 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: Ashley, I know you are as well. 9 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: We're all here, we're all getting started. 10 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: Rodney. Welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. 11 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 3: Thank you so much Ben and Ashley for having me. 12 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 3: I'm so excited to be here. 13 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 4: Before we get into your love life, you know what 14 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 4: I want to get into. What's that You're good buddy 15 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 4: justin Okay? Because I know that sounds weird. 16 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: I want to get into your good buddy justin Okay. 17 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 4: So he is always doing just social media stuff with 18 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 4: Susie and they're always creating a buzz and people are 19 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 4: always asking why they don't just date because Zusie is 20 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 4: very open about her dating struggles in l A and 21 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 4: I figure that you know the inside scoop here. 22 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 3: Let's see. I do know these two people very well, 23 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,639 Speaker 3: love them to death, and especially with them both moving 24 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 3: to LA I could see why that buzz was created, 25 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 3: and especially with the content that they post, because we 26 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: all love it. Right, it's all funny, it's entertaining, and 27 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 3: it's that's why it's just so compelling, Like are they 28 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 3: going to make it happen or not. It's one of 29 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 3: those things where from from my knowledge, I know that 30 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 3: they're both really good friends, and I don't know if 31 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: it'll ever cross that threshold. I'm not too sure that 32 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, I know we're both 33 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 3: rooting for both them and their happiness, whether it's together apart. 34 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 3: So I just I love those two so much, and 35 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 3: I just tell them, I'm like, hey, keep creaking it 36 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 3: out because we we love the content. 37 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: So there, you know, makes his laughs and makes a smile. 38 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: I love this too, Rodney. Tell me if I'm wrong, 39 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: or you don't have to say anything. Actually it's your buddy. 40 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: I would be shocked if Justin doesn't lay in his 41 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: bed at night all alone, looking up the ceiling being 42 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 2: like goodness, gracious, Like I just want to kiss her, 43 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: like I just I just want to Like I don't know, 44 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: there's been these moments where I feel like there's something 45 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: and she's a friend, and I like her, and she's beautiful, 46 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: and like, I just want to kiss her. 47 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 5: I feel like they've kissed. Oh, I feel like they've 48 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 5: kissed a few times. 49 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: I don't know anything about that, but I know that. 50 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, no, imagine the tension is there. The 51 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 3: tension has to be there. They're just they're too funny, 52 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 3: they're too close on the content. I'm just like, God, 53 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 3: these two just they would look good together. But yeah, yeah, 54 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: it's probably there. They have. 55 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 4: They're just very creative and they're very good at executing 56 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 4: all these social media videos. Their ads are one of 57 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 4: those ads that you stop and you make sure that 58 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 4: you watch because they do it so well. And then 59 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 4: another buddy of yours you must have had an awkward 60 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 4: situation with. Nate has been a roommate of yours for 61 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 4: a but your new girlfriend, which we're going to dive 62 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 4: into in a minute, she's taking his place as your roommate. 63 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 3: When I posted our hard launch, the funniest part was 64 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: adding a picture at the end of like me and 65 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: her in the mirror at our place and mats in 66 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 3: the background, and all that people would catch is just 67 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 3: Nate's face in the background, and all the comments of 68 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 3: looks like he knows that he's getting kicked out as 69 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 3: a roommate or we rob's getting a new roommate, all 70 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: this stuff, and I'm like, oh my gosh. So we 71 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: laugh and joked about it all the time, and I 72 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 3: just remember first telling him. He's like, you sure, Ron, 73 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 3: You're sure, Okay, okay, And it was like one of 74 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: those things where he kind of just realizes. It's like, hey, 75 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 3: it's like it's our brotherhood, we're best friends, and it's 76 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 3: not that it's coming to an end. It's just it's 77 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 3: a new chapter. You know, it's time for you know, 78 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: me to move on. And he definitely accept that and 79 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: he knows we'll still stay close no matter what. So yeah, 80 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 3: it was kind of a funny time, but yeah, it 81 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: was the time to move on. 82 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: So, I mean that's where we got to start. Then, 83 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: from the beginning, you are in a relationship. You publicly 84 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: spoke about this relationship in June. I believe, is that 85 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: when you started dating or was it right then you 86 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: kind of like, how did this play out? And then 87 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: when did you decide to tell the world. 88 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, we started we started dating back in June, and 89 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 3: it was very it was very exciting. I think the 90 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 3: last podcast was on, which is Dave Neil's podcast, was 91 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 3: the first time that I actually spoke about her public 92 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 3: publicly on a podcast, which was really nice. But it's 93 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: one of those things where I was just I was 94 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 3: so excited and and I know that the way we 95 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 3: met we met at a bar out here at Venice, 96 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 3: and it was one of those things. Man, I sound 97 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: so dramatic, and I am, but you know, when I 98 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 3: saw a feeling just hit me, I'm like, wait a minute, 99 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 3: I have to figure out. I have to find out 100 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 3: who this girl is. And Justin was with me that night, 101 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 3: and that was always kind of the funny thing is 102 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 3: I just immediately saw her and I'm like, okay, I 103 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 3: have to get her name in number before we leave 104 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 3: and figure out who she is. And the more and 105 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 3: more I found out, the more excited I got, knowing 106 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 3: that this could potentially be the one for me. And uh, 107 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: it's one of those things, like I said, when you know, 108 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 3: you know, and a lot of friends and family they'll 109 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 3: be like, okay, Rod, like do you think you're moving 110 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: too fast? And you're excited? I said, absolutely not. You know, 111 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 3: for the first time in my life, I've waited so 112 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 3: long for this, and I knew that I've never been 113 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 3: this confident in this shore in my life about any 114 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 3: woman that I've talked to before. So I knew like 115 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 3: that this was a special moment and I wanted to 116 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 3: to seize that immediately. So yeah, I'm really glad. We 117 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 3: just moved in together a week ago, you know, so 118 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 3: it's very exciting for us, and we're ready for this 119 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 3: new chapter. 120 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 4: Ah, it's so obvious how happy you are. Give us, 121 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 4: give us her bio, like, tell us about her. 122 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 3: She's the best. Yeah, she's the best. Stop. I'm just 123 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 3: very very happy. Her name was Ariel Sabrina. Obviously, we 124 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 3: met at a bar, and she is from New Jersey, 125 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 3: so she's from the East Coast, where we just went 126 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: back to for us, for me to finally visit the 127 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 3: friends and family. She works for Netflix. She's a social 128 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 3: media manager over there, and everything that we've kind of 129 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 3: been through together so far, it's already been it's already 130 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 3: been a lot in such a short period of time. 131 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 3: But we're just so happy to have met each other 132 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 3: during this stage of our lives. You know, I'm thirty one, 133 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 3: she's thirty, and that was the first thing she checked 134 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 3: me on. You know, when I approached her, was like, 135 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 3: hold up, how old are you? And I was like, 136 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 3: I'm thirty one. And she's like, okay, I'm tired of 137 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 3: get hit on by like twenty two year olds. Like 138 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 3: now we can talk, we can continue this conversation. I said, hey, 139 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 3: I respect it. Yeah, it's nice, you know, so I 140 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: completely understand, and I tell people all the time. I 141 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 3: think one of the best parts is that, you know, 142 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 3: when we met, she never watched the show, so it's 143 00:06:58,400 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: one of those things where she just got to know 144 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 3: me for me and I remember her. One of her 145 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 3: best friends was there that night. It was kind of 146 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 3: like recording us because everything was so special. We had 147 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 3: random people coming up to us saying I'm sorry, you 148 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 3: guys are the cutest couple I've ever seen, or like 149 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 3: we just met an hour ago. So it's one of 150 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 3: those things where I was like, this must be something 151 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: special if people keep commenting on it. And I remember 152 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 3: that best friend and her they you know, they watched 153 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 3: the video. They were dying laughing. They sent it back 154 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 3: to the girl's back east and they're just like, oh, yeah, 155 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 3: Aery met this guy last night. We'll see what happens 156 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 3: with it, like she seemed happy, but we'll just see 157 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 3: if anything comes of it. And I immediately was you know, 158 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 3: I got her number. I asked her out on a 159 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: date for that next Wednesday, like I was. I said, hey, like, 160 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 3: I don't play games, and she's like, what are you 161 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 3: in this for? I said, I'm trying to find my 162 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 3: future wife. Like I'm I'm in this for love, and 163 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 3: so you know, if this could be something serious, I 164 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 3: would love to pursue that. And I remember, you know, 165 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 3: we had our first date, which was very nice, and 166 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 3: then our second date is when she's like, all right, 167 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: so my friend's back East watched the video of us 168 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: from night one and they said that they all know 169 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: you and they love you. They know you very well 170 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: and they love you. And she's like, I don't know 171 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 3: how that's possible, and so you might have to talk 172 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 3: to me about this if you feel comfortable, And I said, yeah, 173 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: I let you not until the friends finally told her, 174 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 3: so yeah, she's just like, oh, they're like, do you 175 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: know they talk to you? That's roddy blah blah, and 176 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 3: so they were just so excited and she was like 177 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: what she had no idea, and once we finally talked 178 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: about it and broke down, she's like, I'm here for 179 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: you to tell me whatever you feel comfortable with. If 180 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: that's nothing at all, I understand. If that's everything, I understand. 181 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 3: She's like, I just want you to know the you 182 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 3: that I know is the one that I met at 183 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 3: the bar. And so I said, perfect, let's talk about it. 184 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 3: And so I kind of just shared what I was 185 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: comfortable with and I told her, Yeah, I've been on 186 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 3: a couple of seasons of the show, and I'm very 187 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 3: blessed and grateful, but i have been through some stuff 188 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 3: on the show, and I know that I'm here to 189 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: meet my future wife, and so yeah, it was very 190 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 3: exciting for us moving forward. 191 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 2: I will say this, it is nice to h to 192 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 2: date somebody who doesn't have like they have an interest 193 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: in your experience in the show, but they've never seen it. 194 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 2: You kind of get like there's so much kind of 195 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: weirdness that is eliminated, Like they haven't seen you kiss 196 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: somebody else. They haven't seen you like say something romantic 197 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: to somebody else. It really does, I think build a 198 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 2: healthy relationship. My we've talked about on the podcast before 199 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: you know my dad Rodney. He's a great dude, but 200 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: he is not one to to give advice. 201 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: Uh. 202 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: And so one day I said, hey, Dad, how do 203 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 2: you know when you've like met you know, how what 204 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 2: do you feel like when you met mom? 205 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: What do you feel like? 206 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 2: He goes ben when you know you know? And I 207 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 2: was like, that's stupid advice. I don't know what that 208 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 2: feels like. I think that's there has to be a 209 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: better way and he and he didn't really say anything 210 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: after that. And then when I met my wife, now 211 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: I was like that first date. I was like, no, 212 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: this is either going to be the best thing ever 213 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 2: or the hardest thing that I've ever had to go through, 214 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 2: because this is really really good or could be really 215 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: bad if it doesn't work out. Well, it worked out, 216 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 2: but you're right though. 217 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 3: It's a certain feeling and you're just like, wait a minute, 218 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 3: this feels different. This feels more confident and secure and 219 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 3: warm and welcoming, and something's different about this date. So yeah, 220 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: it was very nice. 221 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 4: So Ronnie, this is a little bit awkward, but your 222 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 4: ex Eliza is back on The Bachelor in Paradise Beach 223 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 4: right now, and you felt really strongly for her last year, 224 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 4: Like you really, I feel like you thought at the 225 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 4: time that she was the one. Can you like compare 226 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 4: and contrast the different feelings now that you look back 227 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 4: on it in hindsight, Yeah, I mean back. 228 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 3: Then, Wow, it was about a year and a half ago. 229 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 3: So back then, yes, I definitely had strong feelings and 230 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 3: thought that it would give us something special with a 231 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 3: lot of potential. And once I heard that she was back, 232 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 3: I was like, oh wow, I hope that she finds 233 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 3: what she's looking for, and that's that's really all that 234 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 3: I felt at the time. I was like, oh okay. 235 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 3: It was one of those things where I think us 236 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 3: as a general brotherhood and friendship or are our own 237 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 3: personal group you know that we hang out with. It 238 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 3: was just like, oh wow, this is this is crazy, 239 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 3: this is big news. But I hope that I hope 240 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 3: she finds what she's looking for and she finds love. 241 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 3: And knowing a lot of people that win on this season, 242 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 3: I'm just I'm rooting for all of them, you know, 243 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 3: because I think we all know how crazy that environment 244 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 3: can be and how how wild it can be. So 245 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 3: it's one of those things where I'm just I'm rooting 246 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 3: for everybody, even even though yeah, I was very hurt 247 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 3: last year. I'm rooting for everybody to win, you know, 248 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 3: and and find love because it's it's a special feeling. 249 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 2: Have you have you at any point been watching this 250 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: season because I had this. I was talking to Ashley 251 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 2: about this, I think last year. You know, obviously I'm 252 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: in a relationship. I have no interest and not being 253 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 2: in this relationship, But there's moments I watch Paradise and 254 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, I wish I was there, Like I want 255 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 2: to be there, like hanging out the bar, like I 256 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: want to be watching the people like fight and like 257 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 2: you know, love triangles, Like I never went to Paradise, 258 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 2: so I don't know what it's like, but I find 259 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 2: myself like if I could just not date, could I 260 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: just go hang out? Like I could I just be 261 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: in like the cabanas. Have you felt like that at 262 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 2: all as you've you know, seen Paradise come through this season, like, Hey, 263 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: I know I'm in love, but can like I go 264 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: back for a bit? 265 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 3: So to be honest, no, not at all after my experience. 266 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 3: But the best part of Paradise by far is is 267 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 3: kicking it with Wells because That's that's the man right there. 268 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 3: You know, we all love Wells, We're all big fans, 269 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 3: and once I finally got to meet him in person, 270 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 3: I was like, oh man, the hype is so the 271 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 3: best part is is kicking it with Wells. But you 272 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 3: know something's coming up. If if Jesse walks in and 273 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: he's got a serious tone and I'm like, oh, what's up, Jesse, 274 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh no, this isn't going to be 275 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 3: a happy talk. Like something's going on. So it's just 276 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of stress in that place. 277 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 3: I remember, you know, a lot of late nights. But no, 278 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm happy for those who get to experience it, 279 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 3: and I just wish them the best. 280 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 2: You don't want to go back, No, there's no plans. 281 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: There's no plans. I gotta go back to bath. 282 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 3: I'm good on seeing that beat. 283 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 5: All right, go ahead, Rodney. 284 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 4: You do you feel like you are on the fast 285 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 4: track with your girlfriend, maybe a Bachelor in Paradise style 286 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:48,359 Speaker 4: where it's like, yeah, it's maybe not four weeks to engagement, 287 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 4: but maybe you can see yourself doing it in a 288 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 4: few months. 289 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm definitely. 290 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 5: He's opposed to get Christmas? 291 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: How did you How did you get that from his 292 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: like first like word of yeah, I'm on it, and 293 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: you're like, keep bothering. 294 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: It's face. 295 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 3: No, I'm just I'm definitely on the fast track and 296 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 3: I won't lie. I remember. It does feel like the 297 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 3: show has affected me in that sense of thinking like, hey, 298 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 3: we don't have time to waste. And you know, I remember, 299 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 3: you know, being younger, way before the show, I would 300 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 3: just I would take my time, and there's nothing wrong 301 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 3: with that, you know. I feel like I have taken 302 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 3: my time being single this entire time and waiting for 303 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 3: the right one to come. But the show did introduce 304 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 3: me to hey, like if it's if it's the one, 305 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: there's no time to waste, and so kind of taking 306 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 3: that into my real life. It has felt like, hey, 307 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 3: ever since I met Aria, I know that what I'm 308 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 3: doing feels right for both of us, and you know, 309 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 3: we are on the fast track, but to us it 310 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 3: doesn't seem too fast. And we ask each other all 311 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 3: the time. We're like, we you know what the world thinks, 312 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 3: but what do we think? You know? And I'm like, well, 313 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 3: we're both very happy, We're both very confident, and we've 314 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 3: both waited, you know, for a long time for a 315 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 3: love like this. So yeah, we're we're definitely on the 316 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 3: fast track and I wouldn't change it for anything, and 317 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 3: I'm very happy for how our pace is going. 318 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 2: Isn't a weird feeling when you like, are confident and 319 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 2: at peace with the idea that you're going to be 320 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: with somebody potentially for the. 321 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: Rest of your life. 322 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: Like, isn't this just a weird switch up from even 323 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: being on the show where you're like, I think I 324 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: like this person, I don't really know them that well 325 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 2: yet I'm hoping this works out for us, and then 326 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: you like and it has happened from the show, right, 327 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: Like people have found love on the show and it 328 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: has worked out from they have found that feeling. But 329 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: it isn't like just odd and awesome to be so 330 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 2: at peace with this massive decision that you're making. 331 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 3: It's it's one of the craziest feelings that I know 332 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 3: talking with you too, I know you guys can relate, 333 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 3: And it's so shocking to me to go from this world, 334 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 3: especially like just being a single bachelor and being on 335 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 3: the show and then coming out and finally finding my 336 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 3: person and I'm like, oh wow, this is a crazy 337 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 3: switch up in life in such a short period of time, 338 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 3: In just a few months, my life changed just like that, 339 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 3: and I wouldn't change it for the world, Like, this 340 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 3: is all I've ever wanted, this is all I've waited for. 341 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 3: So it's funny. I remember people asking, like, you know, 342 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 3: you know you enjoyed this lifestyle and being a single 343 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 3: bachelor and being from the show and this and that, 344 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: and I'm like, it's been great and I'm very blessed 345 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 3: with that. However, at the end of the day, the 346 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 3: reason I went on the show is to find love. 347 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: So that deep down of what I've always wanted is love. 348 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 3: So that's the whole purpose of it, you know. And 349 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 3: so as soon as I found it, I'm like, I 350 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 3: recognize it, I feel it, I know it, and I'm 351 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 3: ready to move on. I'm ready to move forward. And 352 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 3: the only one that truly knew that are some of 353 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 3: my best friends back home who weren't on the show, 354 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 3: you know, before the show existed, and moms and moms 355 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 3: knew on me. When people are like Rodney found her, 356 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 3: is this the real thing? And it's like, yeah, he's 357 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 3: been waiting for the right one. As soon as she 358 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 3: met him, She's like, Roddy, this this is the one. 359 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 5: It's her, Rodney, You're the sweetest. We're so happy for you. 360 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 4: You're like, oh, you're a dream. You're a little dream. 361 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 4: How was her family? Did you feel like You're like, oh, 362 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 4: this is an extended family to mend. 363 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think our world's merged so easily, so smooth. 364 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 3: And you know, when she met mine, it was amazing. 365 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 3: And then when I met her, obviously about half of 366 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,479 Speaker 3: them knew me from the show, so I think they 367 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 3: were excited to see me from that, but more importantly, 368 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 3: they saw how happy I made Airy, and so that 369 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 3: is what made it more special. Is so once I 370 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 3: met them, I'm like, oh my god, this is this 371 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 3: is my family on the East Coast. You know, It's 372 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 3: just it was so quick and I loved every second 373 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 3: of that. You know, her her best friends, you know 374 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 3: who we stay with and they have a cup kids 375 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 3: and uh, you know her best friend Taylor, her husband Chris, 376 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 3: who we just stayed with the New Jersey Kate May. 377 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 3: I love them to death. They're two kids. Uh, they 378 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 3: already called me her niece Slay can't pronounce the D. 379 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 3: So she calls me Uncle Ross and so I'm like, 380 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 3: all right, I'm Uncle Ross. I'll just unc ross like 381 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 3: I want, you. 382 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 5: Know, you know, I'm like, not Ronnie, Ronnie Ross. 383 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 6: I like it. 384 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, you know, classic mix up. I'll take it. 385 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 3: And uh yeah, she's got She's got nieces and nephews 386 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 3: out there that I I love, you know, being with 387 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 3: and spending time with and just meeting all them. And 388 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 3: I finally got to meet her mom as well, which 389 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 3: was a which was a beautiful moment, and I could 390 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,479 Speaker 3: feel that they were happy that I just made her 391 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 3: happy because that's all they've been waiting for too, So 392 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 3: it was it was very uh, it was very nice. 393 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 2: Sounds like Growdney's had his last first drink with somebody. 394 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: Pretty cool, you know, last first drink. 395 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 5: That expression, but definitely his last first kiss. 396 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 2: I mean, last first drink would work to right. That 397 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: fits both all all above. 398 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I. 399 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: Want to revisit something, Rinne. 400 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 2: I want to dig into this a little bit and 401 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: then I want to get to some of the fun 402 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: stuff you're doing outside of this amazing relationship. So Nate 403 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 2: is still living with the two of you like, you 404 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 2: guys have moved in together, but also Nate is still 405 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 2: there or not? 406 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: Has he moved out? 407 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 3: So no, so we so we both found new places. Yeah, 408 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 3: so and I Aaron and I found a brand new 409 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 3: place in Studio City, which we love out here, and 410 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 3: Nate moved a couple of blocks away from from whereere 411 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 3: we were at. So yeah, he's now in a in 412 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 3: a studio and uh he's found a beautiful place. Uh 413 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 3: you know, he's got his own little skyscraper spot and 414 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 3: uh yeah, we we have a two bed, two bath 415 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 3: out here in the valley. And so we're really really 416 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 3: is he. 417 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 2: Is he the type of guy? I mean we uh 418 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 2: we've had on and uh, but is he the type 419 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: of guy? Is is excited to live alone? Or is 420 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 2: this like is this a really sad time for him? 421 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 3: No? No, I don't even think it was like a 422 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 3: It's for maybe about five seconds, it was bittersweet of 423 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 3: like my life's changing too, you know. But no, he's uh, 424 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 3: he's lived alone before. When we met, he was living 425 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 3: alone out in Austin, Texas. And I went to go 426 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 3: visit him out there a few times, and I think 427 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 3: now he was he was ready to live alone again. 428 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 3: It's you know, it's him and his dog, Percy, who 429 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 3: everyone knows in Bachelination. 430 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 5: By now that his relationship with the dog is awesome. 431 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you've heard us talking about it, but it's he's, uh, 432 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 3: he's happy. I think he's happy. It was kind of 433 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 3: like an exciting new chapter for him to to kind 434 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 3: of just be all by himself out here in LA 435 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 3: because before it's you know, he did move out here 436 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 3: for me and and we knew that we were going 437 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 3: to be closer after I went through everything on my season, 438 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 3: he was going through his breakup and he's like, man, 439 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 3: we both need a fresh start. And I'm like, either 440 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 3: I'm going to Austin or you're coming to LA. So 441 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 3: we got to figure it out and and that's how 442 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 3: that's how it happened. So yeah, I know that he 443 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 3: is happy finally being in the city on his own 444 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 3: to kind of explore it. And obviously, like we said, 445 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 3: Justin and Susie are out here, so it's like we 446 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 3: got more friends to hang out with. 447 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 2: I like that you group the two of them together. 448 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: I just feel like, one day this is gonna happen. 449 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 4: They're gonna be Jared and I I mean, you know, 450 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 4: really good friends first, but it's. 451 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 3: He's he's doing well. I can I can confirm he's 452 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 3: doing well. We're all going to go to the Chargers 453 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 3: game this weekend. So yeah, it's nothing, nothing's changed. 454 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 6: We love them. 455 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 2: Speaking of football, you coach this year. I don't know 456 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 2: if this is your first year of coaching or not. 457 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: Was it? 458 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 3: So? No, this is about my fifth or sixth season 459 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 3: coaching high school football. 460 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 6: Yeah. 461 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: Are you the head coach? 462 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 3: No? So, I am the defensive coordinator. I was the 463 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 3: defense coordinator. Yeah, Pasadena High School. It's like North LA 464 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 3: out here. 465 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 6: Yeah. 466 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: So you played college football? 467 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 3: Yes? 468 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: I did, and you're running back right or were you? 469 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 6: So? 470 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 3: I played safety? I played up at Fresno State. 471 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,239 Speaker 2: You played at Fresno State. You were a safety, So 472 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 2: being a defensive coordinator fits perfectly. Talk to us. I mean, 473 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 2: you know, I'm more interested, maybe than than most. But 474 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 2: give us a quick rundown of how the season went 475 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 2: and how it is to be a coach of high 476 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,719 Speaker 2: schoolers because it is something that I've always wanted to 477 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 2: do and dreamed of doing, just never put my foot 478 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: in the door to do it, but yeah, to. 479 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 5: Do it eventually, Ben, You'd be amazing when you have kids. 480 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 2: Like you have to be the coach high flying high 481 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: school offense. 482 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: Just air raid down the field. 483 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 3: I can see it now and then I can away 484 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 3: because I'm keeping up with every stat I know you're 485 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 3: just gonna throw that thing out. 486 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: Just let's go. 487 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's it's definitely pros and cons. This was 488 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 3: the toughest season I ever had coaching. It was my 489 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 3: first season coaching after the Show, which was a different 490 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 3: challenge I wasn't expecting. And it was my first season 491 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 3: ever being a defensive coordinator because I started off as 492 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 3: just the dB coach and unfortunately, some events happened where 493 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 3: the school had to let go of the defensive coordinator, 494 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 3: so I a week before the season immediately got the 495 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 3: promotion of the bump that I wasn't ready for, and 496 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 3: so there were a whole lot of challenges to go 497 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 3: with this, and so it was it was. It was 498 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 3: a tough year. 499 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 5: So our season, we didn't play very well. Our records sucked. 500 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 3: We were awful, and I think that's that's what made 501 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 3: it so tough for because I'm a massive competitor, especially 502 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 3: when it comes to football. It was my first love 503 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 3: my first passion. And you know, I started playing at 504 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 3: nine years old and ever since, the game has always 505 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 3: just changed my life, you know, whether it's high school, college, 506 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 3: you know, being a captain and a leader. I loved 507 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 3: the game and I love coaching and giving back. And 508 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 3: before the show, I was coaching consistently and it felt good. 509 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 3: I got to see myself personally changing kids' lives and 510 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 3: changing their love and their knowledge and their passion of 511 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 3: the game, and that's what I cared about. You know. 512 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 3: It's like, Hey, I'm going to make you a great 513 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 3: football player, and I'm going to make you more knowledgeable 514 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 3: of the game, but more importantly, I'm going to make 515 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 3: you a better man off the field. And that's what 516 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 3: I was excited to kind of see that contract. 517 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, I want I wanted to ask you about that. 518 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what is at the end of the day. 519 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 3: That's what's more important of being a coach. It's like, hey, 520 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 3: I'm going to teach the x's and o's and that's great, 521 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 3: But am I helping him build your care you know, 522 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 3: Like how am I helping you off the field as well? 523 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 3: Because a lot of these kids come in with you know, 524 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 3: they're all coming in from different backgrounds. And that's what 525 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 3: I've loved with football, is like you got every culture, 526 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 3: every background, ethnicity, upbringing. You got all that mixture in 527 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 3: this locker room, and how do they gel together to 528 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 3: be a winning team. And that's really exciting to see, 529 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 3: is you know, we took my last high school that 530 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 3: I coached at. We took a team that was known 531 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 3: to be a losing program and turned them into winners 532 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 3: on and off the field. So these kids were building confidence, 533 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 3: they were getting better grades, they're out playing college football now. 534 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 3: And you know, they went from being those kids who 535 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 3: were in trouble all the time and always having to 536 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 3: go to Saturday school to you know, now being good 537 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 3: members of society and getting scholarships and being better men. 538 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 3: And it was just so exciting. That's what I care 539 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 3: about when it comes to coaching high school football. And 540 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 3: you know, sadly, once I started this program, I didn't 541 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 3: realize the effect of the show because obviously every kid 542 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 3: wants to look up their coach, and so you know, 543 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 3: they immediately looked me up and it's just like, coach Rod, 544 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 3: you were in an Apple suit, you were and then 545 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 3: they did like what are you doing Oh my god, 546 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 3: and I'm trying to go off on them saying, hey, 547 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 3: I'm coach Rod, like just folks on me being you. 548 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 5: Know, remember that's how he came in on a cell season. 549 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 3: These kids and you know, kids research everything. So I'm like, 550 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 3: oh my god. So just trying to trying to discipline 551 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 3: them or teach them, and they're just like, okay, Coach Rod, 552 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 3: you know, like you know, you're getting on the bashret 553 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 3: and this, and now I'm like, no, that's not what 554 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 3: it's about. You need to focus on football. And so 555 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 3: there were just so many not even from Mayen that 556 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 3: was just a piece of it. There's so many like 557 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 3: outside distractions with this team. And you know, the end 558 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 3: of the season and we play in the Rose Bowl, 559 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 3: so that's their big rivalry is which is one of 560 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 3: the coolest experiences for high school for anybody, is playing 561 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 3: in the Rosebolt, the granddaddy of them all, and it's 562 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 3: against the rival high school, me or high school so 563 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 3: it's Mere versus Pasadena. And the first half I'm just 564 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 3: so excited because I'm just like, wow, this is everything 565 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 3: anyone could dream of being a kid or a player. 566 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 3: At coach and that first half I held the other 567 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 3: team to thirteen points. So we're going at halftime it's 568 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 3: thirteen zero and our offense hasn't scored yet. But I 569 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 3: still have hope, and I'm like, all right, boys, like 570 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 3: it's some of the best football we're playing. We got 571 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 3: the most people here, thousands of people. I'm like, we 572 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 3: got this, we got this, you know. And at the 573 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 3: end of the game, we get blown out, and so 574 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 3: I'm hurt and I'm bad. And at the end of 575 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 3: the day, obviously I've listed all the cons I think, 576 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 3: but the pros I have to look back and just say, 577 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 3: what impact did I make on the kids? And there's 578 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 3: a good handful of those kids that could look back 579 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 3: and still know that they can call me for anything 580 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 3: and just say, Coach Rod, I'm going through something, and 581 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 3: they know that they could call me. So at the 582 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 3: end of the day, I still want to make sure 583 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 3: that I'm making a positive impact on the kids on 584 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 3: and off the field, and if they could remember me 585 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 3: for someone who wanted to really truly support them and 586 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 3: uplift them, whether they're out there get getting an interception 587 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,959 Speaker 3: or making a big tackle, or if they get scored 588 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 3: on or anything like that, Like win or lose, I'm 589 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 3: going to have their back. So that was that was 590 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 3: really important for me. 591 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: Your passion for coaching is clear. Is this something you 592 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: want to continue doing? 593 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I will. You know, I definitely. I've 594 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 3: loved it. Like I said, I've been doing it for 595 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 3: five or six years before and after the show, and 596 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 3: so I love coaching and I know I definitely want 597 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 3: to do it again. I don't know if this last 598 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 3: year took a toll on me and you know, come in, 599 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 3: you know, after practice and you know, Arie would meet 600 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 3: me after practicing, after every single game and she's like, 601 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 3: you just seem stressed. I'm like, I got a lot 602 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 3: on my mind, Like this is stressful. She's going to games, 603 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 3: she's seen us get blown out, and I'm like, I've 604 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 3: never been through anything like this in my life before. 605 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 3: You know, I'm a strong competitor and at least I 606 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 3: know I'm going to be in the game, you know. 607 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 3: And for me to deal with a culture that was 608 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 3: so used to losing and they were okay with that, 609 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 3: and it was tough for me, and with the distractions 610 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 3: of you know, post life after the show and stuff 611 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 3: like that. With the kids, it was a lot, and 612 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 3: so I think I want to coach when the time 613 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 3: is right. But I told Ery, you know, moving forward, 614 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 3: I want to focus on my new career. I just 615 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 3: as of a week ago, I just passed my real 616 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 3: estate exams, so I'm about to get my real estate 617 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 3: license stuff. 618 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 6: Let's go. 619 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, congrats. 620 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 3: I'm really excited about that. 621 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 4: No pressure, Rodney, But you're a great role model and 622 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 4: I want you there with the kids. 623 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 3: I know, so I'm I promise I'm definitely going to 624 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 3: coach again, but it's going to take some time. 625 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, makes sense. 626 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 627 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: Well to close up here, Rodney, we do have to 628 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: ask you. 629 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 2: The bachelorette on your season has recently announced that she 630 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,479 Speaker 2: is in a relationship. What are your thoughts feelings about 631 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 2: this new found I mean, I don't know if they're 632 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 2: calling each other love life yet, but romantic life for Michelle. 633 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I just I just heard through the grapevine 634 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 3: that that that that happened. But more importantly I am 635 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 3: I'm happy for her. You know, that's that's very exciting. 636 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 3: Like I said, I've just recently found it, so I'm 637 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 3: really rooting for anyone to find it. And we all 638 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 3: know that we went on this show to find it. 639 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 3: So it's one of those things for Michelle, and I'm 640 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 3: super happy for her. You know. I hope that everything 641 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 3: works out, and I hope that she's she's found her 642 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 3: person because being on her season, I know how passionate 643 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 3: she was in that pursuit, and so yeah, I'm happy 644 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 3: for her. 645 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 4: Ronnie, thank you so much for joining us. It was 646 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 4: so great to have you. I could listen to you 647 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 4: talk forever because you're just like such a soulful, warm 648 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 4: human being. 649 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 3: I appreciate you guys. Thanks for having me. Ben and Ashley, 650 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 3: you guys are the best. 651 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get to feeling better. 652 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on with this this flu it's a 653 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 2: big deal. 654 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: So until next time, Rodnie, don't make it too long. 655 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 2: We'll probably be giving the headline. I don't know, probably 656 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 2: during Christmas, Ashley. 657 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,959 Speaker 1: Thanks. Rodney. 658 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 2: Matthews is engaged, but we'll see, but we'll always hold 659 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: out hope for you man. 660 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on the podcast. Until next time. I 661 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: haven't been, I've been, Ashley, I've been, Ronnie say here 662 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: you guys. 663 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 4: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on 664 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 4: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts,