1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Today, I f ft up by being intimate with another 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: girl at a swinger's party. 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: I could see how some issues could arise. 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, especially if you aren't ready to be swung. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 2: You know. 6 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes it takes a little swing before you swung. 7 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 2: You on, every swing is meant to be swung. 8 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: No, that is true. Set the scene. 9 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: Hmm. 10 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: My partner of two years and I attend a sex 11 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: club together. This is the second time we have both 12 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: been to this club. The agreement between us is that 13 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: there are no rules except being there and going to 14 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: the club together. Apart from that, it's open season for 15 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: any girl or guy we want that we can hook 16 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: up with them and play or fuck. 17 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 3: Going to a place doesn't sound like a rule. Well, 18 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 3: I think they agree to go to this place. Oh right, right, 19 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 3: they agree, we're going to the sex club. At the 20 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 3: sex club, we could. 21 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 2: You know, we're doing anything and everything. 22 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the Purge, but for for sexual sexual. 23 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,319 Speaker 3: That sounds like it was like a new movie. It's 24 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 3: the Perch, but for sex that sounds worse. That sounds 25 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: like it would get canceled right away. 26 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: Anyway, the night is going well. She gets taken by 27 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: a few different ladies, upstairs to the sex rooms, and 28 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 1: I kiss a few different girls and take one girl 29 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 1: upstairs to get naked as well. 30 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: Here we go. 31 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: What country is this? I'm asking for a friend. 32 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 3: I feel like I have heard that they are in 33 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 3: the US, but it's just like I have to imagine 34 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: you have to sign like consent forms. 35 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: So one of my friends who will remain nameless, is 36 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: he went to a sex club in New York called 37 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: like Eagle something, and it was it was like a club, 38 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: but like everyone was just fucking. It was a gay 39 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: club though, so everyone was just yeah, and there was 40 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: fluids all over it. People were literally having sex in 41 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: the corner just like everywhere, just everywhere. Yeah, and it 42 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: was fine. So you know, I don't know if it's 43 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: also there for straight people, but for I'm sure. 44 00:01:58,480 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: I'm sure. 45 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm sure if it's if it's allowed for anybody, 46 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: I don't. 47 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: Think it's allowed. I think it just happens. I think 48 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, it's like an underground thing. Yeah, it's 49 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: more it's more like, you know, you go to a bar, 50 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: right and like there is a unwritten rule that everyone 51 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: is just like going to have sex with each other. 52 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: But the bar doesn't actively endorse it and kind of 53 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: tries to break it up. It's like break it up 54 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: and they like shine a flashlight, and then as soon 55 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: as the flashlight's gone, people are starting to, oh, is 56 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: that what they do with these these clubs at the 57 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: club that I'm specifically referring to. 58 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're just like covering their bases. Yeah, all right, 59 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 3: we'll do our checklist and then you just do exactly 60 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 3: so it's more like a blind eye. 61 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's so funny. 62 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: It's pretty slim pickings, I might add, because the guys 63 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: they're not so great. It's all fun until the group 64 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: of people that we were hanging with decide to go 65 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: back to someone's house and party on. Okay, one girl 66 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: in particular, who I kissed earlier, fancies me and comes 67 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: back to my friend's house without her husband. Her husband 68 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: it turns out, has cracked the sad ones and wants 69 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: to go home, which basically is an Australian term for 70 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: being like, I'm sad and pat crack. 71 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: That's amazing for reasons I do not know. My partner 72 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 3: and I agreed to go back and party. Also, we 73 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 3: get back to the friend's house and after many drinks 74 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 3: and other substances. Everyone has their clothes off and various 75 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 3: people and bodies are all over the kitchen and lounge room. 76 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: I'm kissing the girl who fancied me from earlier, and 77 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 3: she motions to me that the couch is free. 78 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: Oh yes, we both make our way to the couch 79 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: naked and carry on with our business. 80 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 81 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: I'm not too sure what my partner is doing at 82 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: the stage, but last I remember, she was naked in 83 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: the kitchen with a few others. I was just like 84 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: to say, man, this couple is wow, like wild. 85 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: Oh they are oh pen for business. 86 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 3: Wow, they put the oh in open relationship. 87 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jesus, that is. It's like, you know, when you 88 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: have this many partners, I just get worried about diseases 89 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: at that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's you know, I really 90 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: care about the number. I just care about like, can 91 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: you infect me with super gonorrhea? 92 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 3: Also the type of people that would go to the club, 93 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: Like I just imagine, like there's probably people like trying 94 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: to trying to go crazy and not use protection and stuff. 95 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 3: So it could just the numbers game adds up so quick. 96 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 3: I know, it's a giant in a giant orgy. 97 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. After what seemed like half an hour, the other 98 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: girl and I finish our business business on the couch, 99 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: and my partner and I get dressed and we catch 100 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: a cab home around four am. Damn, bro, four am 101 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: they out day out here. 102 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 3: I mean, that's not the craziest part. I've never been 103 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 3: to a massive, giant group orgy. 104 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: Good god. 105 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love how four am is the thing. I'm like, man, 106 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. Immediately I can tell something is wrong, and 107 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: she is pissed at me. Eventually, three days later, she 108 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: explained that I was extremely intimate with this other girl 109 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: and how she watched both of us on the couch. 110 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: She got the whole time, she's peeping. Okay, I'm in 111 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: the ship because apparently I don't do what I was 112 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: doing to my girlfriend, and I missed the memo where 113 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: it was supposed to be about sex and intimacy with 114 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: other people, and that is not completely allowed. She tells 115 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: me to throw away the underwear I was wearing that 116 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: night because she doesn't want to see it ever again. 117 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: That's funny. I'm sorry, Yeah, like, that's like the thing. Yeah, 118 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: I don't want to smell it. That's smelly, smelly, dripping 119 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: wet underwear. Oh yea, I might add that I find 120 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: it difficult to get turned on in any situation where 121 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: there is no level of connection or mutual attraction. I'm 122 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: not a show up in f any random person kind 123 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: of guy. So now I'm in the shit and my 124 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: girlfriend's pissed. She wants me to have a think about 125 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: why I don't do those things to her, despite me 126 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: asking what those things are, because I have no idea 127 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: what I did and where I fucked up. 128 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 2: I am so confused. 129 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: See, I I need to know what those things are, 130 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: like what this? 131 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 3: I need to know those things. But also it's like 132 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 3: you said your two rules were showing up. What was 133 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 3: it showing up and fucking anybody? 134 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: Right? 135 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: Like? Those are the rules? So it sounds like there 136 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: needs to be a new rule. 137 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: Well, well, if if we want to get lawyer on 138 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: there on this stipulation, right, if we want to if 139 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: we want to bring the law in, right, Yeah, the 140 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: rules are the agreement between us is there are no 141 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: rules except being there and going to the club together. 142 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: Being there and going to the club together. 143 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: They moved from the club to another location, Oh. 144 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: Lawyered dude, you lure the fun out of your word. 145 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 2: Nice one. 146 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the rules are broken. As soon as 147 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: you leave the club, the rules no longer apply. 148 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: So so the idea is I'm just like trying to 149 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 3: grasp it. The idea is basically, maybe if you go 150 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 3: to like the club, it's like, oh, we're just like 151 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 3: it's just like almost like dancing, like dancing sex. It's 152 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: like very not like intimate, I guess. But then back 153 00:06:58,440 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 3: at the place, if you're on the couch, like I 154 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:00,679 Speaker 3: guess I could. 155 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: Get more into more intimate. I don't you know you 156 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: do you do Malia Coachella? You know, not at your 157 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: cousin's barmitza. 158 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, interesting. I mean I still don't. 159 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: Follow thelogy doesn't make any sense. 160 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: It makes sense to me. 161 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 3: Yeah wow, I mean that's it sounds like they just 162 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 3: need to sit down and have a talk and be 163 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: like okay. It sounds like there actually is maybe another 164 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: boundary that you have that like you should that we 165 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 3: should find so I can respect it. 166 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: Like that's what it sounds like. 167 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, the damn like open relationships are hard, dude. 168 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 3: That's that's crazy, that's insane. I mean you know, do 169 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 3: do whatever you want. Like, but to me, that's insane, dude. 170 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like relationships are hard enough, you know, 171 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: like it could be like there's a lot of stuff 172 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: when you're meeting someone, like you know, to to navigate 173 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: right and just to be like and the we're just 174 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: gonna throw in a bunch more complications. I applaud people 175 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: who can do it well, but I don't think many 176 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: people can do open reallytionships. 177 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: Well. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, it's it's too much for me. 178 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but maybe it's like a thing when you're like 179 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: you're dating someone and then you're you're married maybe for 180 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: twenty years or something or ten years, and then you're like, 181 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: we feel solid enough and well we've been able to 182 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: build here. 183 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 3: I'm sure people have reached places in their relationships where 184 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 3: they feel comfortable with it. I'm just like, it's just unfathomable. 185 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 3: It's hard to wrap my mind around. Yeah, that that 186 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 3: improves a relationship, especially this orgy situation is crazy. 187 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: Does that improve a relationship? 188 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: I don't think. Again, I'm sure somebody in the world 189 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: like their situation. 190 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: Like maybe it's like a MoMA mea kind of situation. 191 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 3: But it's just that I'm just on the like the 192 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 3: massive orgy thing like that's crazy, like a huge, a 193 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 3: huge houseful of people like happens. 194 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: It happens, though I've never been a part of it, 195 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: but it happens. Ye yes, yes, yeah, I haven't been 196 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: apart yet and cut