WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Stopping Donald? 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:07.200 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:17.520 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys let go. Are 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:20.400 you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:25.520 a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah, and so 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:29.360 much for that. It's time for The Break on Dallas 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:35.080 Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, Brian brought Us and 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:42.639 bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. It is Thursday October six, 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:45.760 twenty twenty two, Season eighteen, episode number forty five. Welcome 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:47.559 to the latest edition of The Break. We're live from 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:50.720 the s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star. We are 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:54.200 presented by Miller Lake, the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys, 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:57.160 and today we're going to talk about the Los Angeles 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:01.440 Rams defense versus the Cowboys offense. Before we get to that, though, 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:02.800 we had a couple of things I wanted to catch 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:05.400 up on from the press conference and just some general 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:08.520 news and notes around the Cowboys. Let's start with some 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:13.200 injury updates. What's going on with Jordan Lewis Um I 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:15.400 don't know, I mean I don't think that. I don't 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:18.040 remember him being asked in the press conference today. Was 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:21.240 he always miss you speak the injury? What it is 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:25.559 because I can't say the word growing. Yeah. Yeah, growing, 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:30.640 I'll never say it right. So I always appreciate when 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:32.480 people say it for or you say it real fast. 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:35.000 I've got it run. Everybody's got a word like that, 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:39.240 they just don't say. I mean, I'm so uncomfortable saying it. Yeah, 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:42.080 I don't know. It starts with an H and ends 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:46.080 with an H. It's a Christmas term or a joyous term. 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:49.480 I don't know whatever. Hallelujah. Yeah, And I don't say 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:51.520 that word. I can't say it so hard. I just 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:53.720 don't say it. Those els don't they don't work together. 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:55.800 I can't do it. I'm not going it. No, I'm 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:58.600 not gonna do it right. I can't hear, but I 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:05.760 can say growing. And that's what Jordan lewis. Yeah. Um, 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:08.880 but I have a hard time thinking anything that's a 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:12.640 quick turnaround. I don't. I don't see that happening of 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:16.119 him playing um. I think he did. I think he's 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:18.880 maybe working into a practice or maybe maybe he's getting 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:22.360 to work with with um a brit right on the side. 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:25.119 So that always is is an indication that it could 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:27.919 be sooner than later on a return. But when you're 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:30.440 when your backup comes in. You have two backups. One 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:32.840 of them comes in and gets six tackles, which is Mkuamu, 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:37.440 and then the other for the nickel backup, U Duran Bland. 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:39.200 You know has a good game get to pick. I 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:41.440 don't know if they're gonna be rushing Jordan Lewis back 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:44.480 this week, but I mean it certainly it's certainly gonna 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:47.920 be a tough matchup because you might rob a veteran 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:51.280 because who's facing not with a boat groin? Now I 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:54.720 gotta say it like that. Yeah, goode, you know it's 0:02:54.720 --> 0:03:01.720 it's funny. Um, would you consider you cansider traveling? Do 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:05.640 you consider traveling this week with Diggs? And I just 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:09.200 kind of feel like that Cooper Cup is gonna get 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:12.160 his Yeah? Yeah, I just I mean, do you do 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:14.840 you just totally because you're not going to take him 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:17.760 out of the game, But if he gets fourteen catches, 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:21.400 they still lose games. We've seen that. So do you 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:25.400 do you say, Okay, we're gonna travel with and just 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:28.240 let him get fourteen catches and mess everybody up up 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:31.480 in the secondary. The thing I don't want I wouldn't 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:34.000 want Alan Robinson to get going. You know, I think 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:37.240 you have to figure out, like Cup, he's gonna get 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:41.120 probably fourteen catches. Just get ready for it. You know, 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.680 Higbee the tight end, and I know we're going back 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:47.800 and talking about their offense, but now I'm thinking about Okay, 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:50.840 to me, he's the next most important thing that I 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.880 have to take care of in this game. So I 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.840 know the Cooper Cup's gonna make plays, Maybe I could 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:59.000 take Higbee out of this game. Maybe I could find 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.760 a way to limit him, because they're struggling getting the 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.880 ball to Alan Robinson. So if that's the case, maybe 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:09.760 just by the way they're scheming, Robinson's struggling in these games, 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:12.480 I think I traveled Diggs with Robinson. I would just 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:16.520 take him and let Diggs take Robinson and then try 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:18.440 to get him out of the game, and then you know, 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:21.120 then you can double and kind of zone the other. 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:23.480 You know. But it's hard. It's hard to just play 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:25.360 it one way because the way they use them, they 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:28.120 use them almost as a glorified running back. Yeah, you know, 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:31.440 I mean it was fourteen catches. It's almost like fourteen carries, 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:33.440 which that's a still a lot of yards, right, one 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:35.520 hundred and forty something yards. They had nine yards of 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:38.680 reception on that and you're right, see that's terrible, but 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:40.800 it's not. It's not great. That's when you watch the 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:42.880 rams and you're saying, well they don't run the ball, 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:45.400 well they yeah, they do. They throw the ball or 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:48.799 a bunch formation and then everybody blocks their ads off 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:51.320 for a nine yard game. That's how they that's how 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:54.320 they do it. Set asked, Yeah, I would. I would 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:56.800 wonder if a week like this, I don't know about 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:59.360 traveling just because I man, you know how it goes 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:01.640 when you travel one guy. That means everybody's got to travel. Well, 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:05.560 everybody gets screwed up. Yeah, especially when you're talking about Cup, 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:09.640 because if he travels from one, he's always going to move, 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:12.719 so he's gonna come in motion, he's gonna go in 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:17.080 short motion, and once he goes across the center, it 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:20.320 changes everybody in the secondary for what they have to do. 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:23.839 As good as this defense is playing, I would prefer 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:26.600 to say, just play what you play, do what you do. 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:28.839 If cool, like you said, if Cup gets off and 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:32.800 gets fourteen catches, that's fine, because we've seen this season 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.280 they're two and two and he's getting that number of 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.200 targets every single week and they lost two of those games, 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:40.800 which makes me think that that doesn't kill you. If 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:42.440 he gets that number of catches, you just don't want. 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:44.480 You want to make sure that wherever he gets the ball, 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:46.920 that's where he goes down. You know, only yards after 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:49.080 catch he goes down where he catches the ball. And 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:50.560 if you do that, I think you can still be 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:54.240 successful against this team. It to me, if they find 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:57.720 a way to run the football against you and have success, 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:01.320 I think that's far worse than Cup catching the bagery. 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:04.880 I mean, because you know we've figured out here teams 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.520 get behind the chains against the Cowboys, it turns into 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:10.600 pass rush, it turns into pressure, and it turns into 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:15.360 punts for the opponent. So I personally worry about I 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:17.800 know this just from being in you know and pro 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:21.560 scouting and going on the road and evaluating. I said, listen, 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:24.240 I know we can't run the ball again. I know 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:26.839 we can't run the ball against anybody else, but we 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.039 need to try and run it against these guys. We 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:31.920 need to try and if we have success, it could 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.480 help us win this football. I'm talking from a RAMS 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.520 perspective that you know, as as an advanced scout. I 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:40.880 would go back to Sean McVay and say, Coach, I 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:43.680 know it's three yards to carry. These guys will give 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:45.480 you opportunity to run the ball. We just have to 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:48.440 be committed to doing it. And that's that's what I 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:50.600 kind of worry about with this crew right here. Ye, 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:52.560 let's talk about a few other guys that showed up 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.920 on the injury report yesterday. You got Donovan Wilson, you 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:57.479 got Jake Ferguson, you got Quentin Bohannah. Do we know 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:00.400 anything about where they are? Can I'll comment about Ferguson 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.159 because I know that when that one was a knee 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:06.000 MRI was didn't show anything, so they're going to try 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:09.120 and practice him and get him ready. I didn't get 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:12.520 any indication that he wouldn't play. I know that was 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:14.720 one of those once it popped up on the injury 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:17.040 report and I said, oh, maybe I need to ask 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:20.200 about this, but was told the MRI was negative or clean. 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:23.400 And so we'll see him out here trying to practice 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:25.680 or maybe miss a day or two and then and 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:27.800 then try and be ready for the game as other 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.080 guys should be ready. I mean Donovan Wilson, I think 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:34.320 had a rest day, and I think, you know, Balhanna 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:37.160 should be working into practice, so we'll see. I mean, 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:39.440 somebody's got to be inactive. So that doesn't necessarily mean 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:41.720 he's gonna play, because he could be banged up enough 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:45.520 where someone you know, takes his spot. But hopefully they 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:47.800 get j Ron curseback up this week. Right, he said 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:49.680 he's playing, Yeah, he said. He said he's going to 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:52.760 join the best safety a group in the league, without 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:55.600 a doubt, best safety group in the league. So and 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:59.800 that might mean taking Anthony bar off the field because 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.880 me anthy barrs anburse roller coaster ride. It's the up, 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.400 it's the down and step. Maybe you put a guy 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:08.920 down in the box. He's a little bit better tackler 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:11.400 down there. I feel like, you know, we haven't seen 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:14.760 we haven't seen Anthony Barr Bullitz. You know, maybe that's 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:18.400 what Anthony Barr can do, but I haven't seen him. 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.200 You know, I think once or twice maybe, But it's 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.960 not like I thought it was gonna be. Yeah, And 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:25.440 I do wonder if that's a little the way they're 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:27.080 using him as a little out of role for him, 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.520 because that can't cover. Yeah, what we've known about him 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:31.080 most of his career is that he is He's a 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:34.120 guy that goes after and so trying to play him 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:36.800 as an off ball linebacker, it might be just something 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:39.280 that he's not as good at all. Right, let's uh 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:41.640 real quick. I had there was a question that came 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:43.959 up during the press comes I thought was interesting and 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:46.199 I wanted to dive in a little bit. The question 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:50.480 was about guys that or specifically about Fowler, but it 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:53.680 kind of developed into other guys as well. Talking about 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:55.800 the number of snaps they were getting him, Mike McCarthy 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:57.360 said he wanted to get him more snaps. There were 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:59.360 other guys he wanted to get more snaps. He mentioned 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:03.120 guys like Goalston and Hill and Gallimore. My question for 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:05.560 you guys is based on that defensive run, he said. 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:07.240 You know, it really is a great problem to have, 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:09.800 but you know, because of the depth, it's hard to 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:11.360 get some of the guys you want to get more 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:15.560 snaps more snaps. That being said, who would you look 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:17.760 at on that defensive front where you would say, you know, 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:20.199 if I had just one guy I wanted to give 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:22.600 more playing time because I think it would help this team, 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:27.480 it would be whoever, who would that player be Fowler? 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:29.880 For me, I kind of feel like that, you know, 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:34.760 with you know him Armstrong. I think Armstrong. I mean, 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:36.960 I know on Wonder five three of the fan that 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:38.800 was my guy. That was my you know, a couple 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.880 of guys that was Armstrong and Anthony Brown, guys I 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:43.959 thought that were gonna you know, the game was gonna go. 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:46.720 You know, Brown has kind of struggled a little bit, 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:51.319 and Armstrong, I mean, he's had moments where he's been good. 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:55.439 I think there's something about Fowler's game. Now. The thing 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.559 that bothers me about Fowler is he's so anxious about 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:01.320 getting up the field. Some those runs off the edge, 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.000 the perimeter runs have been with him in the game. 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:07.560 You know, So am I asking, Oh, put a guy 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:09.160 out there and they start running the ball and then 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.600 all of a sudden it looks bad again. But I 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:16.160 just think there's something about that veteran, that understanding of 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:18.600 how to rush the passer. Because if people are gonna 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:22.600 pay so much attention to Parsons, you know, you're gonna 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:24.720 have to have the others. It's got to be it's 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:27.040 got to be Tank, it's got to be Fouler, it's 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:29.480 got to be armstrong. It's got to be hill. Those 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:32.640 guys they've they've got to step up and make place. 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:35.760 But i'd like to see Fowler get more more opportunities 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:40.720 if it was me, you know, a guy that probably 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:44.640 enough for this year. Like, he's not Sam Williams. He's 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:48.280 a guy that he has something that I really like 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:52.000 about him. He's just a little young and reckless, and 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:54.480 he's a rookie and he just needs to kind of 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:58.800 come on discipline here and not be so crazy. But 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:03.000 that crazy is what also what I liked about him, 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:09.000 and and just I've seen him go after guys with 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:14.640 so much power and force and an aggressiveness. But he's 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:17.400 not quite there yet. But he's only gonna get there. 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:20.240 The more he gets, the more chances he gets, and 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:24.040 the better his game will be cleaned up by those chances. 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.120 So he's a guy that I would like to see him. 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:29.559 But then at the same time, I'm like, Okay, don't 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:32.719 don't get penalties, stay, you know, clean up your game 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:34.240 and all that. So it's kind of like a weird 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:37.640 balance there. But he's a guy I'm definitely looking forward 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:41.360 to as far as his development overall. Yeah, I don't 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:43.640 really have an answer there. Honestly, I don't think there's 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:48.520 one guy um that's that should be playing more. But 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:51.200 because we're talking about this, I do want to bring 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:54.200 this up about I was looking at the Cowboys depth chart. 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:58.120 This is there, this is this is where they were drafted. Okay, 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:00.280 going to the top to bottom of the depth. Just 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:04.839 let listen to this second round, third round, second round, 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:09.240 first round, first round, fourth round, second round, fifth round, 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:14.760 third round, third round, fifth round, undrafted free agent. That 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:19.400 is the second team of the defense us right, That 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:21.920 is that is what they're working with. Those those are 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.760 not the starters. That is not the starters. That is 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:28.320 that is the second round, the second team. Yeah you 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:31.520 look at bar you get Tristan Hill, you got you 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:36.160 got um right right, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:38.120 the I mean, And and I kind of did that 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:40.199 with the offense, and it doesn't look the same at all, 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:42.520 you know, because they have multiple backups. Well let's go 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:44.600 in Farniak are all, but still, I mean, like it's 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.560 not the same. My point all along is that is 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.960 that they've got great, great depth right now, and and 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:53.480 that that they're hard to get those guys on the field. Yeah, 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:55.560 I mean that's you know, and the shout out to 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:57.280 the to the guys that are starting. If you look 0:12:57.280 --> 0:12:59.079 at the let's do the Sacond thing with the starters. 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:04.439 Second round, sixth round, third round, fourth round, first, first, 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:11.400 sixth third, second, undrafted, sixth round first. I think I 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:14.000 did that right. I don't know, um, I don't remember 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:17.120 what Tonoman Wilson was. Sixth round, sixth round. Yeah, so 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:20.120 you know, I mean that's not super super impressive. It's 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:21.480 just it's just kind of the way it works out. 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:24.199 But I think from the young defensive guys like like 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:26.960 you know, Sam Williams Gallamore and Tristan Hill, Dante Fowler 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:29.120 he's not that young, but Jill Cod he was the 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:32.000 first round, high high first round pick. Yeah, Anthony Barr. 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:33.720 But but it's just this is hard to get on 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:35.560 the field. They've done a nice job. Would you guys 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:38.200 say to see more Bland? I would, And it looks 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.280 like we might. I mean, I know it's an injury 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:42.360 right now, and you're gonna see him out of necessity 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:45.160 because of what's going on with Jordan Lewis. But here's 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:49.120 to me that you know, there's I mean him Wilson Bland, 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:52.360 these guys, I mean we did the backup grades yesterday 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:55.000 and stuff. I mean it was when it was weird 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:57.160 because to me, it's like all these guys are playing 0:13:57.160 --> 0:14:01.199 well enough to be starters. When I when you say, boy, 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:03.800 they might need to take away Higbee a tight end. 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:08.320 I look at Israel mcquama, a former cornerback who's big 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:10.640 and he's playing as a safety. I'm sure he's added 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.560 some some muscle and weight for to play that position. 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:16.760 I see him as a tight end, tight end stopper, 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:20.680 but a tight end matchup guy um and I think 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:22.240 I think he would be you know, I see that 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.360 Sean Wright kind of doing that too. Yeah. The thing 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:27.080 about that is, though both those guys are even depth 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.400 because you got j Ron Curse, who did a really 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:31.600 good job at that same role last year, so you 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:34.280 started thinking about that, Yeah, that'd be great. They're also 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:38.640 behind somebody. It's this defense is really really deep, I 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:41.320 mean really deep. I think you almost have to treat 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.280 Higbee like a wide receiver. I mean we used to 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:46.440 see that you put a corner on him. Yeah, well 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:51.400 where Yeah. The thing about it is, remember the Rod 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.560 Miranilli administration that We used to see Byron Jones every 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:56.840 once in a a long when when the Eagles were really 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:59.320 rolling with those tight ends that they had, you would 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:02.920 see like like Byron Jones would leave corner and then 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:06.760 he would go and play over. You know. Even Rob 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:09.600 Ryan he would do it. You know, he would move guy, 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:11.800 move a corner on. So if you've got a guy 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:15.080 that's a real real is a true weapon, and you 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:17.440 put somebody on there that knows how to cover and 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:20.520 knows how to carry routes and things like that, it's 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:22.440 you know, you can't just say, oh, we're gonna put 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:25.280 a linebacker on him, because he runs away from linebacker, 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:28.120 even though you've got linebackers that can cover a little bit. 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.760 But I would treat Higbee like a like a wide 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:33.000 receiver if it was me, especially on a team like 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:35.480 this where you think he's probably the second best receiver, 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:38.040 second best option right now, Yeah, he sure is. All right, 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:39.760 we're gonna take our first break, we'll come back. 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Yeah, I think to me, they've 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:33.600 got a player that can eliminate anybody in your receiving corps. 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:36.639 They've got the guy now. He struggled at times. If 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:39.840 you watched the Buffalo game, wasn't one of one of 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:43.520 Jalen Ramsey's better games. Digs did a great job of 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:48.000 in that game. He when you talk about Ramsey's super aggressive, 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:50.879 He's going to play both sides. He's gonna line up 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:52.840 on the left corner, he's gonna line up on right corner. 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:55.480 He's going to play in the slot occasionally, so he 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:59.480 can walk wherever they feel like down a distance wise, 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:01.840 they could say, okay, So it's not about a person necessarily, 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:05.040 it's about situation. It's about a situation like they can 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:08.000 they could take they could take him, and they can, 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:11.040 you know, move him around. Raheem Wars the defensive coordinator 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:14.480 has that ability. And they and you mentioned Donald because 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:16.560 I'll say it with him, they do the same thing 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:19.080 with him. He's not just going to play the undertackle, 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:21.560 the three technique on the shoulder of a of a guard. 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:23.919 He's going to move around. He could play defensive end, 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:26.159 he could play the one inside, he could play the 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:30.600 three outside. So they're gonna move him around quite a bit. Uh. 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:34.239 You know, Bobby Wagner will make every single tackle as 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:37.359 a as a linebacker. He's getting up there in age 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:40.640 a little bit, but if you leave him unblocked, he's 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:44.160 capable to finish. Leonard Floyd's a guy that i've kind 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:48.359 of I kind of watch him rush, I watch him play, 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:51.400 and I'm thinking, like, okay, you have to figure out 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:53.760 a way as much attention as you need to pay 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:58.639 with Donald. Floyd's a capable pass rusher as well. They're 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:01.159 they're a little bit they're they're struggling a little bit 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:04.840 right now because their cornerbacks are banged up, and so 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:07.560 they're going with a rookie, this Kendrick. They're going with 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:11.840 him and replace of David Long and you know, and 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:15.399 they've also Durant. The Nichols had some problems too. It 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:19.280 seems like that people like Kendrick is one of those 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:22.840 guys that gives a lot of room, so the slants, 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:26.200 the end routes, things like that, the quick breaking routes 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:29.680 and stuff. He's given up some some big plays. He 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:32.240 went for an interception the other night the game against 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:35.040 San Francisco, played it with the wrong hand and it 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:37.440 ended up where Deebo Samuel caught the ball and went 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:40.160