1 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys let go. Are 3 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for 4 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah, and so 5 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: much for that. It's time for The Break on Dallas 6 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, Brian brought Us and 7 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:42,639 Speaker 1: bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. It is Thursday October six, 8 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, Season eighteen, episode number forty five. Welcome 9 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: to the latest edition of The Break. We're live from 10 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: the s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star. We are 11 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: presented by Miller Lake, the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys, 12 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: and today we're going to talk about the Los Angeles 13 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: Rams defense versus the Cowboys offense. Before we get to that, though, 14 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: we had a couple of things I wanted to catch 15 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: up on from the press conference and just some general 16 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: news and notes around the Cowboys. Let's start with some 17 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: injury updates. What's going on with Jordan Lewis Um I 18 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: don't know, I mean I don't think that. I don't 19 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: remember him being asked in the press conference today. Was 20 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: he always miss you speak the injury? What it is 21 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 1: because I can't say the word growing. Yeah. Yeah, growing, 22 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: I'll never say it right. So I always appreciate when 23 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: people say it for or you say it real fast. 24 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: I've got it run. Everybody's got a word like that, 25 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: they just don't say. I mean, I'm so uncomfortable saying it. Yeah, 26 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. It starts with an H and ends 27 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: with an H. It's a Christmas term or a joyous term. 28 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: I don't know whatever. Hallelujah. Yeah, And I don't say 29 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: that word. I can't say it so hard. I just 30 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: don't say it. Those els don't they don't work together. 31 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: I can't do it. I'm not going it. No, I'm 32 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: not gonna do it right. I can't hear, but I 33 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: can say growing. And that's what Jordan lewis. Yeah. Um, 34 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: but I have a hard time thinking anything that's a 35 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: quick turnaround. I don't. I don't see that happening of 36 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,119 Speaker 1: him playing um. I think he did. I think he's 37 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: maybe working into a practice or maybe maybe he's getting 38 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: to work with with um a brit right on the side. 39 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 1: So that always is is an indication that it could 40 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: be sooner than later on a return. But when you're 41 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: when your backup comes in. You have two backups. One 42 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: of them comes in and gets six tackles, which is Mkuamu, 43 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: and then the other for the nickel backup, U Duran Bland. 44 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: You know has a good game get to pick. I 45 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: don't know if they're gonna be rushing Jordan Lewis back 46 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: this week, but I mean it certainly it's certainly gonna 47 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: be a tough matchup because you might rob a veteran 48 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: because who's facing not with a boat groin? Now I 49 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: gotta say it like that. Yeah, goode, you know it's 50 00:02:54,720 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: it's funny. Um, would you consider you cansider traveling? Do 51 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: you consider traveling this week with Diggs? And I just 52 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: kind of feel like that Cooper Cup is gonna get 53 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: his Yeah? Yeah, I just I mean, do you do 54 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: you just totally because you're not going to take him 55 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: out of the game, But if he gets fourteen catches, 56 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: they still lose games. We've seen that. So do you 57 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: do you say, Okay, we're gonna travel with and just 58 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: let him get fourteen catches and mess everybody up up 59 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: in the secondary. The thing I don't want I wouldn't 60 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: want Alan Robinson to get going. You know, I think 61 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: you have to figure out, like Cup, he's gonna get 62 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: probably fourteen catches. Just get ready for it. You know, 63 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: Higbee the tight end, and I know we're going back 64 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: and talking about their offense, but now I'm thinking about Okay, 65 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: to me, he's the next most important thing that I 66 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: have to take care of in this game. So I 67 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: know the Cooper Cup's gonna make plays, Maybe I could 68 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: take Higbee out of this game. Maybe I could find 69 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: a way to limit him, because they're struggling getting the 70 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: ball to Alan Robinson. So if that's the case, maybe 71 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: just by the way they're scheming, Robinson's struggling in these games, 72 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: I think I traveled Diggs with Robinson. I would just 73 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: take him and let Diggs take Robinson and then try 74 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: to get him out of the game, and then you know, 75 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: then you can double and kind of zone the other. 76 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: You know. But it's hard. It's hard to just play 77 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: it one way because the way they use them, they 78 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: use them almost as a glorified running back. Yeah, you know, 79 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: I mean it was fourteen catches. It's almost like fourteen carries, 80 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: which that's a still a lot of yards, right, one 81 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: hundred and forty something yards. They had nine yards of 82 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: reception on that and you're right, see that's terrible, but 83 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: it's not. It's not great. That's when you watch the 84 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: rams and you're saying, well they don't run the ball, 85 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: well they yeah, they do. They throw the ball or 86 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,799 Speaker 1: a bunch formation and then everybody blocks their ads off 87 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: for a nine yard game. That's how they that's how 88 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: they do it. Set asked, Yeah, I would. I would 89 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: wonder if a week like this, I don't know about 90 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: traveling just because I man, you know how it goes 91 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: when you travel one guy. That means everybody's got to travel. Well, 92 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: everybody gets screwed up. Yeah, especially when you're talking about Cup, 93 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: because if he travels from one, he's always going to move, 94 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: so he's gonna come in motion, he's gonna go in 95 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: short motion, and once he goes across the center, it 96 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: changes everybody in the secondary for what they have to do. 97 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: As good as this defense is playing, I would prefer 98 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: to say, just play what you play, do what you do. 99 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: If cool, like you said, if Cup gets off and 100 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: gets fourteen catches, that's fine, because we've seen this season 101 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: they're two and two and he's getting that number of 102 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: targets every single week and they lost two of those games, 103 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: which makes me think that that doesn't kill you. If 104 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: he gets that number of catches, you just don't want. 105 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: You want to make sure that wherever he gets the ball, 106 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: that's where he goes down. You know, only yards after 107 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: catch he goes down where he catches the ball. And 108 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: if you do that, I think you can still be 109 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: successful against this team. It to me, if they find 110 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: a way to run the football against you and have success, 111 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: I think that's far worse than Cup catching the bagery. 112 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: I mean, because you know we've figured out here teams 113 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: get behind the chains against the Cowboys, it turns into 114 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: pass rush, it turns into pressure, and it turns into 115 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: punts for the opponent. So I personally worry about I 116 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: know this just from being in you know and pro 117 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: scouting and going on the road and evaluating. I said, listen, 118 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: I know we can't run the ball again. I know 119 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: we can't run the ball against anybody else, but we 120 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: need to try and run it against these guys. We 121 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: need to try and if we have success, it could 122 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: help us win this football. I'm talking from a RAMS 123 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: perspective that you know, as as an advanced scout. I 124 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: would go back to Sean McVay and say, Coach, I 125 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: know it's three yards to carry. These guys will give 126 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: you opportunity to run the ball. We just have to 127 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: be committed to doing it. And that's that's what I 128 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: kind of worry about with this crew right here. Ye, 129 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: let's talk about a few other guys that showed up 130 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: on the injury report yesterday. You got Donovan Wilson, you 131 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: got Jake Ferguson, you got Quentin Bohannah. Do we know 132 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: anything about where they are? Can I'll comment about Ferguson 133 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: because I know that when that one was a knee 134 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: MRI was didn't show anything, so they're going to try 135 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: and practice him and get him ready. I didn't get 136 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: any indication that he wouldn't play. I know that was 137 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: one of those once it popped up on the injury 138 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: report and I said, oh, maybe I need to ask 139 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: about this, but was told the MRI was negative or clean. 140 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: And so we'll see him out here trying to practice 141 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: or maybe miss a day or two and then and 142 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: then try and be ready for the game as other 143 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: guys should be ready. I mean Donovan Wilson, I think 144 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: had a rest day, and I think, you know, Balhanna 145 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: should be working into practice, so we'll see. I mean, 146 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: somebody's got to be inactive. So that doesn't necessarily mean 147 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: he's gonna play, because he could be banged up enough 148 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: where someone you know, takes his spot. But hopefully they 149 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: get j Ron curseback up this week. Right, he said 150 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: he's playing, Yeah, he said. He said he's going to 151 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: join the best safety a group in the league, without 152 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: a doubt, best safety group in the league. So and 153 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: that might mean taking Anthony bar off the field because 154 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: me anthy barrs anburse roller coaster ride. It's the up, 155 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: it's the down and step. Maybe you put a guy 156 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: down in the box. He's a little bit better tackler 157 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: down there. I feel like, you know, we haven't seen 158 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: we haven't seen Anthony Barr Bullitz. You know, maybe that's 159 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: what Anthony Barr can do, but I haven't seen him. 160 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: You know, I think once or twice maybe, But it's 161 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: not like I thought it was gonna be. Yeah, And 162 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: I do wonder if that's a little the way they're 163 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: using him as a little out of role for him, 164 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: because that can't cover. Yeah, what we've known about him 165 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: most of his career is that he is He's a 166 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: guy that goes after and so trying to play him 167 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: as an off ball linebacker, it might be just something 168 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: that he's not as good at all. Right, let's uh 169 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: real quick. I had there was a question that came 170 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: up during the press comes I thought was interesting and 171 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: I wanted to dive in a little bit. The question 172 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: was about guys that or specifically about Fowler, but it 173 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: kind of developed into other guys as well. Talking about 174 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: the number of snaps they were getting him, Mike McCarthy 175 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: said he wanted to get him more snaps. There were 176 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: other guys he wanted to get more snaps. He mentioned 177 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: guys like Goalston and Hill and Gallimore. My question for 178 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: you guys is based on that defensive run, he said. 179 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: You know, it really is a great problem to have, 180 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: but you know, because of the depth, it's hard to 181 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: get some of the guys you want to get more 182 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: snaps more snaps. That being said, who would you look 183 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: at on that defensive front where you would say, you know, 184 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: if I had just one guy I wanted to give 185 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: more playing time because I think it would help this team, 186 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: it would be whoever, who would that player be Fowler? 187 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: For me, I kind of feel like that, you know, 188 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: with you know him Armstrong. I think Armstrong. I mean, 189 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: I know on Wonder five three of the fan that 190 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: was my guy. That was my you know, a couple 191 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: of guys that was Armstrong and Anthony Brown, guys I 192 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: thought that were gonna you know, the game was gonna go. 193 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: You know, Brown has kind of struggled a little bit, 194 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: and Armstrong, I mean, he's had moments where he's been good. 195 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: I think there's something about Fowler's game. Now. The thing 196 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 1: that bothers me about Fowler is he's so anxious about 197 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: getting up the field. Some those runs off the edge, 198 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: the perimeter runs have been with him in the game. 199 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: You know, So am I asking, Oh, put a guy 200 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: out there and they start running the ball and then 201 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: all of a sudden it looks bad again. But I 202 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: just think there's something about that veteran, that understanding of 203 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: how to rush the passer. Because if people are gonna 204 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: pay so much attention to Parsons, you know, you're gonna 205 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: have to have the others. It's got to be it's 206 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: got to be Tank, it's got to be Fouler, it's 207 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: got to be armstrong. It's got to be hill. Those 208 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: guys they've they've got to step up and make place. 209 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: But i'd like to see Fowler get more more opportunities 210 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: if it was me, you know, a guy that probably 211 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: enough for this year. Like, he's not Sam Williams. He's 212 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: a guy that he has something that I really like 213 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: about him. He's just a little young and reckless, and 214 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: he's a rookie and he just needs to kind of 215 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: come on discipline here and not be so crazy. But 216 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: that crazy is what also what I liked about him, 217 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: and and just I've seen him go after guys with 218 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: so much power and force and an aggressiveness. But he's 219 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: not quite there yet. But he's only gonna get there. 220 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: The more he gets, the more chances he gets, and 221 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: the better his game will be cleaned up by those chances. 222 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: So he's a guy that I would like to see him. 223 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: But then at the same time, I'm like, Okay, don't 224 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 1: don't get penalties, stay, you know, clean up your game 225 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: and all that. So it's kind of like a weird 226 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: balance there. But he's a guy I'm definitely looking forward 227 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: to as far as his development overall. Yeah, I don't 228 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: really have an answer there. Honestly, I don't think there's 229 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: one guy um that's that should be playing more. But 230 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: because we're talking about this, I do want to bring 231 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: this up about I was looking at the Cowboys depth chart. 232 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: This is there, this is this is where they were drafted. Okay, 233 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: going to the top to bottom of the depth. Just 234 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: let listen to this second round, third round, second round, 235 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: first round, first round, fourth round, second round, fifth round, 236 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: third round, third round, fifth round, undrafted free agent. That 237 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: is the second team of the defense us right, That 238 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: is that is what they're working with. Those those are 239 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: not the starters. That is not the starters. That is 240 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: that is the second round, the second team. Yeah you 241 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: look at bar you get Tristan Hill, you got you 242 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: got um right right, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's 243 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: the I mean, And and I kind of did that 244 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 1: with the offense, and it doesn't look the same at all, 245 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: you know, because they have multiple backups. Well let's go 246 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: in Farniak are all, but still, I mean, like it's 247 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: not the same. My point all along is that is 248 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: that they've got great, great depth right now, and and 249 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: that that they're hard to get those guys on the field. Yeah, 250 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: I mean that's you know, and the shout out to 251 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: the to the guys that are starting. If you look 252 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 1: at the let's do the Sacond thing with the starters. 253 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: Second round, sixth round, third round, fourth round, first, first, 254 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: sixth third, second, undrafted, sixth round first. I think I 255 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: did that right. I don't know, um, I don't remember 256 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: what Tonoman Wilson was. Sixth round, sixth round. Yeah, so 257 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: you know, I mean that's not super super impressive. It's 258 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: just it's just kind of the way it works out. 259 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: But I think from the young defensive guys like like 260 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: you know, Sam Williams Gallamore and Tristan Hill, Dante Fowler 261 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: he's not that young, but Jill Cod he was the 262 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: first round, high high first round pick. Yeah, Anthony Barr. 263 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: But but it's just this is hard to get on 264 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: the field. They've done a nice job. Would you guys 265 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: say to see more Bland? I would, And it looks 266 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: like we might. I mean, I know it's an injury 267 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: right now, and you're gonna see him out of necessity 268 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: because of what's going on with Jordan Lewis. But here's 269 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: to me that you know, there's I mean him Wilson Bland, 270 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: these guys, I mean we did the backup grades yesterday 271 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: and stuff. I mean it was when it was weird 272 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: because to me, it's like all these guys are playing 273 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: well enough to be starters. When I when you say, boy, 274 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: they might need to take away Higbee a tight end. 275 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: I look at Israel mcquama, a former cornerback who's big 276 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: and he's playing as a safety. I'm sure he's added 277 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: some some muscle and weight for to play that position. 278 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: I see him as a tight end, tight end stopper, 279 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: but a tight end matchup guy um and I think 280 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: I think he would be you know, I see that 281 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: Sean Wright kind of doing that too. Yeah. The thing 282 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: about that is, though both those guys are even depth 283 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: because you got j Ron Curse, who did a really 284 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: good job at that same role last year, so you 285 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: started thinking about that, Yeah, that'd be great. They're also 286 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: behind somebody. It's this defense is really really deep, I 287 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: mean really deep. I think you almost have to treat 288 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: Higbee like a wide receiver. I mean we used to 289 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: see that you put a corner on him. Yeah, well 290 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: where Yeah. The thing about it is, remember the Rod 291 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: Miranilli administration that We used to see Byron Jones every 292 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: once in a a long when when the Eagles were really 293 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: rolling with those tight ends that they had, you would 294 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: see like like Byron Jones would leave corner and then 295 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: he would go and play over. You know. Even Rob 296 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: Ryan he would do it. You know, he would move guy, 297 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: move a corner on. So if you've got a guy 298 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: that's a real real is a true weapon, and you 299 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: put somebody on there that knows how to cover and 300 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: knows how to carry routes and things like that, it's 301 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: you know, you can't just say, oh, we're gonna put 302 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: a linebacker on him, because he runs away from linebacker, 303 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: even though you've got linebackers that can cover a little bit. 304 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: But I would treat Higbee like a like a wide 305 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: receiver if it was me, especially on a team like 306 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: this where you think he's probably the second best receiver, 307 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: second best option right now, Yeah, he sure is. 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Brian, as I 356 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: did yesterday, I kind of qualified my first question of 357 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: what do they do best with by saying outside of 358 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup, I think it's equally apropos to say that 359 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: on the defense, outside of Aaron Donald, what's the best 360 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: thing that they do? Yeah, I think to me, they've 361 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: got a player that can eliminate anybody in your receiving corps. 362 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: They've got the guy now. He struggled at times. If 363 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: you watched the Buffalo game, wasn't one of one of 364 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey's better games. Digs did a great job of 365 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: in that game. He when you talk about Ramsey's super aggressive, 366 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: He's going to play both sides. He's gonna line up 367 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: on the left corner, he's gonna line up on right corner. 368 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: He's going to play in the slot occasionally, so he 369 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: can walk wherever they feel like down a distance wise, 370 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: they could say, okay, So it's not about a person necessarily, 371 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: it's about situation. It's about a situation like they can 372 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: they could take they could take him, and they can, 373 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: you know, move him around. Raheem Wars the defensive coordinator 374 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: has that ability. And they and you mentioned Donald because 375 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: I'll say it with him, they do the same thing 376 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: with him. He's not just going to play the undertackle, 377 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: the three technique on the shoulder of a of a guard. 378 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: He's going to move around. He could play defensive end, 379 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: he could play the one inside, he could play the 380 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: three outside. So they're gonna move him around quite a bit. Uh. 381 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,239 Speaker 1: You know, Bobby Wagner will make every single tackle as 382 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: a as a linebacker. He's getting up there in age 383 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 1: a little bit, but if you leave him unblocked, he's 384 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: capable to finish. Leonard Floyd's a guy that i've kind 385 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: of I kind of watch him rush, I watch him play, 386 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, like, okay, you have to figure out 387 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: a way as much attention as you need to pay 388 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: with Donald. Floyd's a capable pass rusher as well. They're 389 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: they're a little bit they're they're struggling a little bit 390 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: right now because their cornerbacks are banged up, and so 391 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: they're going with a rookie, this Kendrick. They're going with 392 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: him and replace of David Long and you know, and 393 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: they've also Durant. The Nichols had some problems too. It 394 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: seems like that people like Kendrick is one of those 395 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: guys that gives a lot of room, so the slants, 396 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: the end routes, things like that, the quick breaking routes 397 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: and stuff. He's given up some some big plays. He 398 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: went for an interception the other night the game against 399 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: San Francisco, played it with the wrong hand and it 400 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: ended up where Deebo Samuel caught the ball and went 401 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: for a big, big game end up being a touchdown 402 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: right there. So yeah, it's a it's a It's a 403 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: group that has some outstanding players, some of the best 404 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: players in the league, but it also has guys in 405 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: their starting lineup that will give up some plays, and 406 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: so that's where the Cowboys have to take advantage. I 407 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: don't think it's throw away from Jalen Ramsey, to be 408 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: honest with you. I think there's some things you can 409 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: try and do if you want to double move him 410 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: and stuff like that of how aggressive he is. I'd 411 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: go for it because, like I say, there's film of 412 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: him not you know, him guessing and not coming up 413 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: big on the play. But if you're going to attack, 414 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: if you're going to tackle a cornerback in this game, 415 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: Kendrick number six is the guy you want to go 416 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: at right here. And but be ready of them moving 417 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald around two as well. You're not gonna be 418 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: able to get a beat on him, like he's not 419 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: going to sit there in one spot, So be ready 420 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: for that. Is there a point of vulnerability in the 421 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: front seven? I know you mentioned the cornerback, the rookie 422 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: cornerback in the secondary. In the front seven is an 423 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: area where you can exploit it either from the standpoint 424 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: of being able to run or just an area where 425 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: you think there's some opportunity to take advantage of a 426 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: guy in front seven. Yeah, I think that. You know, 427 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: with a Sean Robinson is a little bit, you know 428 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: him and Gaines and Donald, and then you know with 429 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: this with Justin Hollands, you know they've got some guys 430 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: that kind of Floyd is another one. I mean, they're 431 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: so long on the edge that they're hard to They're 432 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: hard to kind of reach because they extend on you 433 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: and stuff. So you know, teams have had some success 434 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: just like taking the ball at them because Donal Donald 435 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: will like hell, he'll jump a gap and you can 436 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: maybe get him a little wide and then go in there. 437 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: So the thing that where Donald makes the most of 438 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: his plays are if you run the ball away and 439 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: then he goes back door and then comes down the line. 440 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: So running the ball at him is not a bad 441 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: thing because he's trying like heck to avoid getting the 442 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: gap and then make the play behind the line of scrimmage. 443 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: So I would try maybe inside would be a little 444 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: bit better against these guys than trying to get on 445 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: the edge because guys like Wagner he can run and 446 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: get outside and then the length of these defensive ends 447 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: I think is pretty impressive too. Any chance, the NFL 448 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: just suspends Bobby wa this week because of his u 449 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: assault on that fan. No, and I hope every player 450 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: from now on starts destroying stupid fans and decide they 451 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: want to destroy them. Well, it drives me crazy that 452 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: that now that the guy has a there's a police 453 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: report out there, I'm like, come on, man, you ran 454 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: onto an NFL field. What do you expect, Well, the 455 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: NFL has got to do something because of the security 456 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: guards that they got. I mean, they're rather a tear 457 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: in their acls to trying to catch them. So we 458 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: uh on radio. We talked about this the other day, 459 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: and I think there needs to be a different plan 460 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: of attack. If you're a field security person, you have 461 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: to be a former athlete. You have to be somebody 462 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 1: forayers former player. I would love to see that. Yeah, 463 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: I would love to see that because you don't need 464 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: me in the in the red wind breaker trying to 465 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: chase people around. It just doesn't work. So me and 466 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: the red wind Breaker running around fall you're the supervisor. Yeah, 467 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: so on Jesse Holly out there right bad? Did you 468 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: guys see Maybe you did, maybe you didn't, just because 469 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: of my line of work. Did you see the lady 470 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: They were having a problem in Minnesota with people chaining 471 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: themselves In Minnesota, Timberwolves were having problems with people chaining 472 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: themselves to the basket and stuff like that in protest 473 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: for like peta stuff and things like that. Okay, there 474 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: was a lady in the second row at a Timberwolves 475 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: and this one security guard. Lady was looking looking looking, 476 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: and as soon as that lady took off for the court, 477 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she tackled her right there. She's talked about 478 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: destroying her, destroyed. That's what I'm saying. See okay, good 479 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: vision awareness and tackles burst tackle burst, see not brow too. Yes, yeah, 480 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: she went second row in between people that probably paid 481 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: two grand a piece for these seats. Watson. So yeah, 482 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: she went in there, got on her and got on 483 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: before she got on the court, and then just bull 484 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: took her down right there. That's what you gotta have. 485 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: You can't have like, you know, it's like Laurel and 486 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: Hardy out there, old you know, running around Benny Benny Hill, 487 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: the old be you know, and pay them. Yeah, and 488 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: then like you blowing a killing somebody did that guy 489 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: in the black shirt, he was out, That's what I'm saying. 490 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: So to me, those guys are okay in the stands, 491 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: But if you're on the field, you have to be 492 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: a former athlete. You can't. We can't have embarrassment of 493 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: people running around forever. I think I think it should 494 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: just be the practice squad for both teams. You just 495 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: if anybody you do yeah, like you're there, you get 496 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: to play a little bit. And they're hungry too, so 497 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: you know they're going to devour anything that gets onto 498 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 1: the female. Just need a better plan, better plan, Devin 499 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: Harper or he's not on the practice squad, he's he's actual, 500 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: you know, inactive, but the inactives and the practice squad, 501 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: that's your job. Yeah. I love that. I love that, 502 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: But I think it's ridiculous that people are now putting 503 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: in police reports because they're where they're not supposed to 504 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: be and they got hit by somebody, Like, yeah, was 505 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: it targeting or was it a good hit? I mean 506 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: I think like it was a good bow up. Yeah, 507 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: he bow him up. But I think he should be 508 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: suspended for week this week. You know that's actually a 509 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: good point. Is he? Is he really? My question? I 510 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: just derailed that whole thing, But I mean, is he 511 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner? Yeah? He still makes tackles, still makes tackles. 512 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: And that's the thing about it is though, I mean 513 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: to me, it's I try and run the ball at 514 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: these guys. I do because I think that they're so 515 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: anxious about getting up the field and getting the past 516 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: rush stuff going that naturally there's some gaps. There's some 517 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: natural gaps with guys trying to work their way backside 518 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: and then work their way down. So you know, I 519 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't the plan you had this past week against the 520 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: Commanders where you were taking the ball at them might 521 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: not be a bad thing to you know. And one 522 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 1: thing about you talked about Treyvon moving around, and Aaron 523 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: Donald moves around too. Michael Parsons moves around. You know 524 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: a lot of times what happens is is the reason 525 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: why Aaron Donald and J. J. Watt was the same 526 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: way when he was at the high level. They're right 527 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: in the middle. They just disrupt everything. But when you 528 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: start getting cute and they put them on the outside 529 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: and all that stuff, that's when you need to run 530 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: the ball right at him. Because some body is a 531 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: defensive tackle is either an end inside or a backup 532 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: tackle or something because they're trying to do all these things. 533 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: And that's what happens too. Like when when Mike is 534 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: moving around, it's the guys that are kind of replacing him. 535 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: Is I think somewhat of a vulnerable spot where that 536 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: was almost another word, um, but but I think that 537 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: you got to just take advantage of when they try 538 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: to move those guys around. I don't think Aaron Donald 539 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: because of matchups. I don't think he's gonna move as much. 540 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna go after McGovern or be oddest 541 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: right there and be like, this is my best spot, 542 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 1: kind of like Chris Jones did in the Chiefs game 543 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, you will see him. When they get Nickel, 544 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: they try and move him to the outside and play 545 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: a little end so they match him up on tackles, 546 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: which is kind of a I mean, probably a win 547 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: for them, and that's probably a pretty good matchup for them. 548 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: I would they will search, they will search, they'll search 549 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: the matchups for you. So I don't know about that honestly. 550 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: I mean I think, yeah, he could. I mean, at 551 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: times he's a freak of nature. I mean Aaron Donald is, 552 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: but you know, he's not the tallest guy in the world. 553 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: So when you got a guy with some power and 554 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: leverage like both Smith does and Steal, I think there'll 555 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: be some times that they can win as well. Um, 556 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: I think his best matchup is going to be inside 557 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: on beardist McGovern but you know, we'll see, we'll see 558 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: how it goes. I mean the first time he gets 559 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: around Steel, you're gonna be like seelem because I said, 560 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: because of his length, Um, something that's starting to concern 561 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: me a little bit or worrying me. Um. The more 562 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: we advance is and we know, the more film you 563 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: put on, the more film there is out there of games, 564 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: the better other teams can prepare to attack you and 565 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: go against you. With the way that Kellen Moore has 566 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: kind of simplified the offense to better fit what Cooper 567 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: Rush is doing in his abilities. Are you guys concerned 568 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: at all that now we're getting maybe at a point 569 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: where other teams can kind of Okay, we got you 570 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: figure out in the simple things that you kind of do, 571 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: and and we've seen it before when when teams do 572 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: that and got Kellen Moore figured out, they slap you 573 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: in the face and it's just not going to be 574 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: enough for them to score the amount of points that 575 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: they're currently scoring. So I don't know if we're at 576 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: that point just yet. We're a team like the Rams 577 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: can kind of better prepare an attack an offense like 578 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: the Cowboys currently have right now, or if we would 579 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: come and happen like next week in a week against 580 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: the Eagles, yeah, you know, and your point is is 581 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: great because you do you watch where Kellen Moore is 582 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: even trying to trying to help his quarterback is even 583 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: when the ball's going down field, the max protect stuff. 584 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, damn, I know I can't block 585 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: this thing straight up, so I've got to keep a 586 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: receiver in, I keep tight ends, and I keep backs in. 587 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: Whatever I have to do. You know, this is going 588 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: to sound just very simplistic like the offense, but this 589 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: is who you are, you know, this is this is 590 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: how you have to function right now because you don't. 591 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: I don't think your quarterback. Your quarterback is steady. I 592 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: don't think he's dynamic enough to to you know, call 593 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: those plays. But I'm okay if they max protect and 594 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: take shots. Because if it's a fifty fifty ball and 595 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: you're you know, you're gonna either catch it or maybe 596 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: you get the PI. You know that. That's that's how 597 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm at if I'm for, however, to manufacture offense because 598 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: I know I'm limited at quarterback. My guy's good, but 599 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: I don't think he can make all the throws. And 600 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: that's the thing that scares me right now, is like 601 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: he's good enough. Can you score enough points to beat 602 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: somebody like the Rams? And this is a different challenge 603 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: than it is against the Commanders or the Giants or something. 604 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: This quarterback to me, and I know there's been some 605 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: struggles here. He's going to put up some points or 606 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: he's capable of putting up points. Can you match him 607 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: in that regard? The one thing is um uh, you know, 608 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: with Cooper Rush hasn't had to play at a level where, 609 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: you know, where he's had to put up thirty something 610 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: points because the defense has kept him in a game 611 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: where he doesn't have to do that. So I don't 612 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: know that that's what scares me about the next two weeks. 613 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: The Rams are capable of putting up points, so are 614 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: the Eagles, you know, but through three weeks into this 615 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: whole thing, you're going into week four with Cooper Rush, 616 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: I mean at a point where maybe we start seeing 617 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore incorporate a little bit more dynamic plays some well. 618 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: I think the deep shots. I think the deep shots 619 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: are something that he probably didn't want to do the 620 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: first couple of weeks. But you know, you also now 621 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: have gallops exactly exactly. Yeah, So I you know that's 622 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: it's a great question. But man, to me, if I'm 623 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, I just keep calling that plays I'm calling 624 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,239 Speaker 1: because you're not turning over the ball. You know, you're 625 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: not risking it for you know, for something that might 626 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: not work. Yeah. This is also why I think the 627 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: whole conversation on Dak versus Cooper is kind of shortsighted, 628 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: because as time goes on, it's going to get harder 629 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: on Cooper Rush. The league has been doing right exactly 630 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: didn't run the ball. The league has been trying to 631 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: figure Dak out, and they have in some respect some 632 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: things that they figured out they can create problems for him, 633 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: but that's not a new thing for Dak. As time 634 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: keeps going on, Like people forget Cooper Rush is not 635 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: throwing for a ton of yards every week. I mean, 636 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: I think he's und his averages under two hundred yards 637 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: a game. Like, he's not throwing for a lot of yards. 638 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: And so right now they're just kind of making it 639 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: work basically by playing great defense and being committed to 640 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: the run, not necessarily being great at the run, being 641 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: committed to the run. And I think that's a good 642 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: formula for them to win, but it also has an 643 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: expiration date. At some point, you're gonna need a little 644 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: more firepower, especially if you start talking about playing teams, 645 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: as Brian says, that have more offensive firepower that might 646 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: be able to put up that extra six to ten 647 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: points on the right. Are how close are we to 648 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: that expiration date? Yeah, and I personally think that Brian. 649 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: I agree with Brian that starts this weekend. Now whether 650 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: the Rams can figure it out this weekend, because they 651 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: didn't look great against a good defense last week in 652 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: San Francisco. 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We got game replays and more. Go 700 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: to Plus dot NFL dot com and start your free 701 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: trial of NFL Plus today. Welcome back final segment of 702 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: the Break Life inst WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star 703 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: present by Miller Light, the Only Beer of the Dallas Cowboys. 704 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: Here's my next question for you guys. Right now, this 705 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: rushing defense for the Rams is seventh in the league. 706 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: They are twentieth in passing defense, which does make you 707 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: think it's going to be a hard day on the 708 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: ground again like it was last week. My question for 709 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: you is do you think Dallas should stick to the 710 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: strategy of we're going to be committed to the run 711 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: versus we're only going to be committed as long as 712 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: it works. I think they need to be committed to 713 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: the run, but I think they need to be more 714 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 1: dynamic in what they do. I mean, if you look 715 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: at the playoff game the Cowboys lost to the Rams, 716 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: what three years ago, I thought that was kind of 717 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 1: the start of the end for like Layton vander ash 718 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: and Jalen Smith from what we've thought. They got abused 719 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: in that game, but they got moved laterally, you know. 720 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: And I think the reverse runs and things like that. 721 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,959 Speaker 1: As Sean mcvagh was really good at. I think Kellen 722 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: mornings to implement that. They have a speedster on the outside. 723 00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: They really have it unleashed in that role. Turpin, I 724 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,760 Speaker 1: don't think Turpin can be effective without even touching the football. 725 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: You can do those kind of things with them. I 726 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 1: think they needed to run latterly. You can't just run 727 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: right at the Rams. But if you go side to 728 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: side with the Pollard and Turpin and even Zeke at times, 729 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 1: you know, I think that's the way I would attack it, 730 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: but still keeping keeping it safe for Cooper rush. Yeah, 731 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: that's that's a good plan. I wish this team was 732 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: good at screens. Just not. I mean, it's just everybody. 733 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: I watched tape all week and watch the Rams. The 734 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: Rams are going to screen you to death. They're gonna 735 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: try to They're not gonna let the pass rush affect 736 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: how they're gonna play. And so you know, if they 737 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: if I think they're going to be committed to trying 738 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: to run the football. If they have success, great, they'll 739 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: keep running it. If they don't, then they'll just turn 740 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: into the screen game, is what they'll do. And then 741 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're you know, you're coming up, 742 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: You're coming up, and then the ball goes down the field. 743 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 1: It's one of those games. You really, Derek, you brought 744 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: it up. You gotta tackle well in this game. You 745 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: mean you can't let Cooper Cup run after catch for 746 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: forty five yards and a touchdown or something like that. 747 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: I mean, we've got to find a way to get 748 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: bodies to the ball and make it happen. But for Dallas, 749 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I like what you're saying, Nick. I just 750 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: feel like though it's it's they're they're just kind of 751 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: figuring out now about Okay, we've got we've got gallup. 752 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: Let's try and get the ball down the field. Let's 753 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: try and throw some deep shots. I'm I'm all for 754 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: that because again, I feel like that that you're either 755 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: going to get the past interference, you're gonna get a 756 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: catch if you get it intercepted. It's down on that end. 757 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: You know, fine, we'll play defense, let's go. But you know, 758 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 1: the more shots that they take down the field that 759 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: way and Max protect, I don't think that's a problem. 760 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: But man, I think the Cowboys are just so much 761 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: on a razor's edge when it comes to their offense. 762 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: With Cooper Rush, It's just like it's either man, if 763 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: the run get if the run goes, you got a shot. 764 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 1: If the run doesn't go, it's like OG's when we're 765 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: throwing off our back foot all day, here we go. 766 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: You know. So those are the things that scare me 767 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: about about these boutcher Cowboys offense. Another thing I wanted 768 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: to point out to you guys. He talked a lot 769 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: about Aaron Donald and how great he is, but I 770 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: was shocked to see this. You know that they are 771 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: the Rams have the worst team in the league when 772 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 1: it comes to their pressure percentage. Yeah yeah, And that's 773 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: the other part, Like, yeah, they blitz, they're six then 774 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: the number of times they blitz per drop back, but 775 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: they are dead last in the percentage of pressures they 776 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: get per drop back. So the question becomes, first of all, 777 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: how has the Dallas offensive line performed when they've been 778 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 1: blitzed a lot night Some of the other teams that 779 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 1: they've played are our heavy blitzing teams. I think the 780 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: Giants are first in the league or second. Yeah, yeah, 781 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,399 Speaker 1: the percentage of times they blitz. But that being said, 782 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,240 Speaker 1: how do you think the offensive line for the Cowboys, 783 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: which is a relatively inexperienced line, how they done with 784 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: regards to picking up blitzes. Man too, when you when 785 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: you watch The All twenty two. The biggest problem the 786 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: Cowboys have is when people blitz and they bring a 787 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 1: twist off the blitz, because then you don't have you 788 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 1: don't have the continuity. You know, go back to twenty 789 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: sixteen and when people would blitz Dack, they're thinking, oh, 790 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,919 Speaker 1: he's a rookie, blitz him. But then you had guys 791 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: like Ron Leary and Tyron Smith passing off stunts. And 792 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: you know, that's the biggest problem that you have with 793 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: this current. You just got young guys, you got you know, 794 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I know we're you know, fifth week of 795 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 1: doing this, but there has been kind of a revolving 796 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 1: door at guard at left guard, and so when you 797 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: when all of a sudden, it's like, is where's the 798 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: continuity with that? And you know, I always worry about 799 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: the power with the right tackle. I think the right 800 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: guard is fine, but the center and the guard when 801 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 1: they twist or they bring stunts behind that, that's where 802 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: it has the most the most And that's where I 803 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: would worry if I was a Cowboy fan, is that 804 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: they're going to move you and then bring something behind 805 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 1: the twist to get at home. And now that makes 806 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: Zeke or Pollard have to search and find and get 807 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 1: that sorted out. That's that's how Tampa got you a 808 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: little bit, you know, early in that in that game. 809 00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: You see where Bobby Wagner said on us on Twitter 810 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: on Cooper Rush, he said, just because a guy has 811 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,439 Speaker 1: been good against the Blitz so far, doesn't mean he'll 812 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: be good on Sunday. And the first comment on Twitter was, 813 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 1: just because the guy was good five years ago doesn't 814 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: make him good now, which I think he is. He's 815 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: still pretty good. He'd like to have Bobby And you know, 816 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 1: if you remember, I mean that was that was a thing. 817 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: I mean they were talking about that. The Cowboys were 818 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: looking into that uh to signing signing him, and you know, 819 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 1: ultimately they got bar at a I'm sure a cheaper 820 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,879 Speaker 1: problem about nine million dollars hit. Yeah, but you also 821 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: got a guy that that wasn't ready to play, I 822 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 1: mean at the time, and it's taken a while to 823 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: learn the system and all that. So I mean there's 824 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 1: there's good and bad to that. I guarantee you. Jason 825 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: Peters and Anthony Barr's con you know, the deals have 826 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: gone down, but you know you're not ready to to 827 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 1: play and let me let me jump on that part 828 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 1: about Jason Peters. We did a mail back question on that, Um, 829 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 1: you know Jason Peters, Like at this point, like, I 830 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 1: don't believe that the Cowboys think that Peters is better 831 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: than McGovern. Yeah, I mean, because this is a season. 832 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: What Peter, He's been here a month, he's been here 833 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,280 Speaker 1: a month, he's practiced for a month, and he's played 834 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 1: sparingly in two games. That is what a preseason is. 835 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 1: You practice, you have a couple of games here in 836 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: their second and third preseason games, and now you're ready 837 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: to go, and he's not not taking the spot of McGovern. 838 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: So and Tyler Smith hadn't taken the spot of McGovern either. 839 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 1: So I mean, I think it is what it is 840 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,319 Speaker 1: right now. We're kind of waiting for Peters. I think 841 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 1: it's time. I mean if he would have if he's 842 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: ready to go, he would be ready to go and 843 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be this game though, when you would expect 844 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 1: that he would be ready to go. Well, that's that's 845 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 1: my point, because I think they've got a really good 846 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,800 Speaker 1: defensive tackle on the other side, and you would like 847 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: to come back that with power and he should have 848 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,320 Speaker 1: that if Peters does with massive body so if he 849 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: doesn't play this week, to me is like that's what 850 00:42:55,280 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 1: they believe. They believe McGovern's a better option. They protected 851 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 1: their bet by signed Peters because they weren't sure really 852 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,359 Speaker 1: how good Tyler Smith was going to sht or when 853 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: Tyron Smith would come back, and if at all, yeah, 854 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 1: Tyred Smith, they're thinking, okay, maybe December, right, Okay, So 855 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 1: they get Peters because they don't know that Tyler Smith. 856 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,760 Speaker 1: They're thinking, man, we kind of liked him at tackle. 857 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna put them out there and see 858 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,879 Speaker 1: how it goes. But they protected themselves on the bet 859 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: is what they did. They protected themselves with Anthony Barr 860 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: for you know, for a linebacker for Parsons and guys 861 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 1: like that, vander ash and people like that. So it 862 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: was a couple of protections, low money protection deals. But 863 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,839 Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if if somehow, some way 864 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 1: Tyron Smith comes back earlier than we expect that Jason 865 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,839 Speaker 1: Peters is no longer here. I could I could see 866 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: something like that if they needed a roster spot that 867 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: you know, with what and maybe it is maybe they do, 868 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. If they want to kick. I've been 869 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 1: wrong about this before, but to me, if Tyler, if 870 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: Tyron Smith is healthy, I'd play him at left tack 871 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,879 Speaker 1: when I kick the other guy inside, and I think 872 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 1: you're a ton better. That's what the plan was going 873 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: to be, I think initially, right. So I don't know, 874 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,919 Speaker 1: they might not move Tyler Smith now that he's playing 875 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: well at left tackle. But I know we've seen only 876 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 1: a small portion of Peters, but currently, based on what 877 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: we've seen, who do you feel is better at guard 878 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: like govern or Peters. I mean I would say Jason 879 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 1: Peters though, but I mean I would say that because 880 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 1: because what I with this team has lacked is power 881 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,280 Speaker 1: to run the football, and I think that was Tyler 882 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 1: Smith and Peters over McGovern because, be honest, is what 883 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,360 Speaker 1: he is. I mean, he's not the strongest guy in 884 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,320 Speaker 1: the world, but I mean there's more to playing center 885 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,919 Speaker 1: than that. So you know, you can't just have this big, 886 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: strong center who snaps the ball all over the place, 887 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,319 Speaker 1: you know, So it is what it is. I would 888 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 1: go with Peters. Well, I kind of wanted though McGovern 889 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 1: just because like we saw a little bit of it 890 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,839 Speaker 1: last week. When Peters is in there. He's still an 891 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 1: older guy and he's not as fleet of foot as 892 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 1: you might want it to be. And certainly when you 893 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 1: have situations where you want him get those reach box 894 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 1: like those are things that he's not going to be 895 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,399 Speaker 1: able to do. And the way they run the ball, 896 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 1: they don't have just a typical power run game. That's 897 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,359 Speaker 1: not the majority of what they do. They're gonna ask 898 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: their their guards to do a little bit more and 899 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 1: I just don't know if he can do some of 900 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 1: those things. So for whatever he gives you more in power, 901 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 1: I think McGovern gives you a little more flexibility with 902 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 1: a lot of a variety of different things you'll want 903 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 1: him to do, and I think he might be a 904 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,839 Speaker 1: better option from that standpoint. I think it right now. 905 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 1: I think we were all encouraged by what we saw 906 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 1: initially from Peters and the problem was he was playing 907 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,320 Speaker 1: against a power player last week in those guys and 908 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 1: the struggled. You know, so if you're playing in because 909 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: you're playing against for power to match power, yeah he didn't. 910 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 1: It didn't match power. But now you're now really max pow. 911 00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,760 Speaker 1: You're matching quickness with leverage. When you talk about playing 912 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 1: you know, with Aaron Donnell and stuff. You know that strength. 913 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: So there's it's honestly, there's no great answer. And I 914 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,800 Speaker 1: always hate riding the fence about that because I the 915 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 1: whole thing with mc McGovern early and you know, some 916 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 1: of the stuff in camp and Tampa. Until he got hurt, 917 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,799 Speaker 1: he was looking okay. I'm like, all right, yeah, here 918 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 1: we go, and you know, and then he came back 919 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: last week and it's like he never played football. You know, 920 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 1: there was things he was doing. But I think a 921 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,439 Speaker 1: lot of it had to do with those guys playing 922 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 1: inside for the Commanders. Yeah. I think those guys make 923 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 1: you look so bad. And you got a few of 924 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 1: those coming up, like you got that coming up against Philly. 925 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,359 Speaker 1: You're gonna have that this week. Like that's that's gonna 926 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 1: be the natural thing for these next several games. Right, 927 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 1: all right, appreciate you guys, Joan Us'll be back tomorrow. 928 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna get you guys ready for the game. Give 929 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 1: you our final thoughts on what we think's gonna happen 930 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 1: till then for Nick even Brian brought us Amber Garcia. 931 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been the Break Live on 932 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 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