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Speaker 1: hungry to get better.

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Speaker 2: Pierce Lightning right spend no barrels way down on the

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Speaker 1: Who want to run by Piers?

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Speaker 3: These are the type of guys, the type of men

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Speaker 2: Send us up, bet Christian Harris.

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Speaker 1: Game D is every day Love the energy.

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Speaker 2: Biop by Stateley p.

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Speaker 1: Trey.

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Speaker 4: Texans out the ball on the pit and if you

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Speaker 4: want it, you gotta go working now.

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Speaker 3: It's Texans all xas.

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Speaker 4: Oh yes it is Hello Texans.

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Speaker 2: Mark VanderMeer and John Harris with you live as we talk.

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Speaker 4: Roster it is out.

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Speaker 2: It's going to change, but we will get to what

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Speaker 2: we've got so far. Obviously, the cuts started coming yesterday

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Speaker 2: and it is a weird time in the NFL. Johnny

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Speaker 2: Good evening. Are you in agreement with me that this

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Speaker 2: agency time, you know in March, when you're constantly refreshing

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Speaker 2: Lots of excitement, everybody unwrapping Christmas presents. This is I've

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Speaker 2: It happens every year, and this year I think feels

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Speaker 2: are in good evening.

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Speaker 1: How you doing, I'm doing okay, and.

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Speaker 5: I have since the email was sent out at I

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Speaker 1: I man, it's crazy. And here's that there. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: a few things that we've got to keep in mind.

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Speaker 5: The word fluid versus the word final. Fluid is the keyword,

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Speaker 5: not final.

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Speaker 1: I give you John Weeks.

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Speaker 5: John Weeks a few years ago was released and when

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Speaker 5: but we've got to do this so that we can

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Speaker 1: Mark.

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Speaker 5: We could spend four hours talking about this, but you know,

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Speaker 5: we only got fifty seven more minutes, so we'll make

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Speaker 2: I know he isn't played lately, but he's on the

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Speaker 2: Perry got cut and he saw that Keenum wasn't so

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Speaker 4: And look, you never know in this league.

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Speaker 4: But that's how it goes in the NFL now.

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Speaker 4: All right, Let's move on to wide receivers here.

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Speaker 2: There are six of them on this initial fifty three

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Speaker 4: Johnny just to be sure. Did we get it right?

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Speaker 4: Is it fifty three? It's fifty three.

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Speaker 2: This is why people need to listen to you, because

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Speaker 2: Johnny how much center. Can Kendrick Green possibly play just

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Speaker 1: Very agile. Now I've read a lot.

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Speaker 5: And I'm always curious about that part mark the offensive line.

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Speaker 5: There's eight and it's got Kendrick listed as one of them.

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Speaker 1: But if it's tomorrow then I think you can be back.

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Speaker 5: I can't remember what the date is, but there's a

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Speaker 5: And that might be the case. You know, we talked

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Speaker 5: But right now, with eight offensive line, I look at

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Speaker 1: It's been there's some sources.

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Speaker 5: I think Aaron put it out there, there's dealing a

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Speaker 1: That leaves the.

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Speaker 5: Jared at guard. And Jared didn't play center last year

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Speaker 1: But not seeing Deeter's name on here was kind of

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Speaker 5: So to me when I saw that when it came

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Speaker 5: that you've got Tunsel and Howard as good a duo

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Speaker 1: Josh Jones, and Fan.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how Josh kind of, you know, will

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Speaker 1: I don't know. But this this group right.

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Speaker 5: Here, I don't want to say anything worries me, but

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Speaker 1: Going forward now. I don't know if you share that

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Speaker 4: Well, you know that there's something brewing, right, there's got

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Speaker 2: It really is eight, right, because you have Green Patterson

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Speaker 2: get that out there. Kenyon Green on IR and Charlie

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Speaker 2: been walking around camp. He's not in a boot, not

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Speaker 5: And I'll say this, I've I've thought about this Sunday

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Speaker 5: And I don't know if there was any kind of

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Speaker 1: I don't know. So this is gonna sound really really strange.

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Speaker 5: I think this is the best thing for Kenyan Green

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Speaker 5: I think he has been trying to keep it together

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Speaker 1: It's played on his confidence.

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Speaker 5: And I think when I saw the news about him

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Speaker 1: Actually that I actually told somebody at lunch.

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Speaker 5: If I were the Texans, I would pull on Kenyon

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Speaker 1: You go get your parts all fixed. Get them all fixed.

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Speaker 5: So November and December you're not rehabbing. In February March,

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Speaker 5: that's the best thing you could ask for Kenyan Green.

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Speaker 2: It's like those tweets you see go away for six

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Speaker 4: Really.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'd love to see him out there right now,

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Speaker 2: Obviously you mentioned the tackle situation. It looks good Josh Jones.

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Speaker 2: Great acquisition there for the Houston Texans, this August Titus,

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Speaker 2: George fan Laramie Good. I think there's another move to

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Everyone reacted to the Desmond King dismissal yesterday, and what's

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Speaker 2: Maybe there's another move to be made there. I don't know,

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Speaker 5: I asked the question, and I can't remember who Dre said,

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Speaker 5: might have been Mike Boone, but I said, who's a

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Speaker 5: guy that maybe not a lot of people are thinking

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Speaker 5: are going to make the fifty three, that you have

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Speaker 5: a good feeling about making it fifty three?

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Speaker 1: And I thought Kadar Holeman would be one of them.

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Speaker 5: You said graylnd Arnold, and graylnd Arnold turned around, had

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Speaker 5: to pick. He had two other plays he had, he

446
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Speaker 5: had his hands on the ball. Grayland Arnold is just

447
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Speaker 5: a football player. I don't care where you play him

448
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Speaker 5: five seven. I don't care play him in a lot

449
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Speaker 5: of different spots. I was glad to see Grayland and

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Speaker 5: Kadar both make the initial the initial fifty three. After that,

451
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Speaker 5: wasn't too surprised now about tav And and DESI we

452
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Speaker 5: talked about Des a little bit last night. I I'm

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Speaker 5: not gonna say I was a little bit surprised about Tavier,

454
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Speaker 5: but again, Tad gives you so much in special teams,

455
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Speaker 5: an absolute boat ton in special teams, so that value.

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Speaker 1: It's not as if Dez doesn't.

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Speaker 5: It's just you know exactly what you're getting special teams

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Speaker 5: wise from Tavier Thomas. And here's the other thing, well,

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Speaker 5: Steven Simms not making it with Desmond King. We know

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Speaker 5: who the punter returners are going to be in Baltimore.

461
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Speaker 5: We just got to force Baltimore to punt to tank

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Speaker 5: out and that's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 4: Yep, yep. I like that. I like that a awful lot.

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Speaker 2: I like what you said about grayl and Arnold as

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Speaker 2: they keep five safeties here and looks like a very

466
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Speaker 2: solid unit. Jimmy Ward, if you had issues at Nickel,

467
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Speaker 2: you could move them to Nickel and figure it out

468
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Speaker 2: from there. But look, let's just take it one day

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Speaker 2: at a time.

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Speaker 5: Here.

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Speaker 4: It's good to have versatility. I said the B word.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, Yeah, linebackers, Johnny, linebackers for days. That's what

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Speaker 2: we've been saying. They have linebackers for days. I've got

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Speaker 2: six right here on this fifty three. And is there

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Speaker 2: an upset in the group? Look, we talked about Kirksey

476
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Speaker 2: not being with this team. I think nevill Hewitt played

477
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Speaker 2: hard in the preseason games. I always say, you know,

478
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Speaker 2: once upon a time he led the Jets in tackles

479
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Speaker 2: over the course of a season played special teams. Hard

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Speaker 2: He's on this fifty three along with Christian Harris, Jake Hanson,

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Speaker 2: Blake Cashman. No surprises there. We saw Hanson come alive

482
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Speaker 2: as a rookie last year. Cashman did some great things

483
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Speaker 2: in camp early, got dinged up. Hopefully he's good to go.

484
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Speaker 2: Paraman speaks for himself. Henry to atoa lots of talk

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Speaker 2: about that rookie linebacker. And Harris, We've been talking about

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Speaker 2: him for a year and a half. So thoughts on

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Speaker 2: the linebacking crew here, Johnny.

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Speaker 5: I was surprised they kept six, but knowing that it

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Speaker 5: was six, I wasn't surprised of the six. I figured

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Speaker 5: Nevill Hughes Nevill Hewit's made the opening tackle of the

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Speaker 5: tackle on opening kickoff each of the last two games.

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Speaker 1: He may have had more in special teams.

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Speaker 5: I mean Nevill's You know when you think about when

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Speaker 5: you think about a number one unit special teams from

495
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Speaker 5: last year, you know how many of those guys returned

496
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Speaker 5: to this list, to the fifty three.

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Speaker 1: M J. Stewart, Eric Murray, those guys were hugely instrumental.

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Speaker 5: Greyvind Arnold was part of that Tabier Thomas of course,

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Speaker 5: Neville Hewitt, Blake Cashman was part of that.

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Speaker 1: And hopefully Blake is going to be healthy.

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Speaker 5: And ready to go, because I think he's going to

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Speaker 5: have a role somewhere on this team and subpackage and

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Speaker 5: whatever else.

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Speaker 1: So the.

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Speaker 5: Six the guys that made it. If you told me

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Speaker 5: it was six, this was the six I would have

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Speaker 5: come up with. But I thought they would keep five,

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Speaker 5: just knowing that they're going to be a nickel a

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Speaker 5: lot and they may need to keep an extra defensive back.

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Speaker 5: But I think these six have all played played very

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Speaker 5: very well in the preseason in a training camp, and

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Speaker 5: I'm not surprised by that six whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's get to the d line. Here the tackles.

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Speaker 2: Hassan Ridgeway, Sheldon Rankins, Kurt Heinisch, Malik Collins. Look, those

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Speaker 2: guys are all good. Who do we know in there?

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Speaker 2: Obviously Roy Lopez from yesterday, Thomas Booker, Khalil Davis didn't

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Speaker 2: make this. Fifty three Still opportunities here, practice squad, whatever,

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Speaker 2: But your thoughts on the tackles.

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Speaker 4: Then we'll get to the ends in a moment.

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Speaker 5: Well, and we'll kind of combine the answer of the

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Speaker 5: tackles here. You know Dylan Horton can Dylan Horton can

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Speaker 5: move inside on sub downs, so you have that that opportunity. Look,

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Speaker 5: even Will Anderson will will bump inside on sub downs potentially.

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Speaker 5: So if you told me you're keeping forty defensive tackles,

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Speaker 5: and if you and I are talking about this Sunday

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Speaker 5: night and the bus, hey you keep forty defensive tackles?

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Speaker 1: Are you keeping? Well, it's it's these four.

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Speaker 5: These would have been the four as good as Khalil

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Speaker 5: Davis was, I don't think you can make a case

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Speaker 5: over over Kurt heinis Henis has been disruptive.

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Speaker 1: I think there could be a move made there.

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Speaker 5: A defensive tackle because you know those guys are going

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Speaker 5: to go through it this year. But my hope is

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Speaker 5: you get Khalil Davis to come back on practice squad

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Speaker 5: and then you've got the opportunity to call him up

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Speaker 5: at certain points, you know, if and when you need that.

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Speaker 5: So not surprise the defensive tackles. There was one surprise

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Speaker 5: at defensive end. Now you know what kind of kind

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Speaker 5: of kind I've said? Derrick Rivers is the best pure

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Speaker 5: pass rusher the Texans have had the last couple of

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Speaker 5: years and I believe I still believe that. But I

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Speaker 5: feel like Sunday night against the Saints solidified a spot

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Speaker 5: for him.

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Speaker 1: I feel like his camp has been good. It's been good.

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Speaker 5: His camp last year was incredible, but it wasn't quite

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Speaker 5: like it, you know, his camp issue wasn't quite like that.

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Speaker 5: But Sunday night against the Saints, he went nuts. He

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Speaker 5: was all over the place. I mean, you said his name.

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Speaker 5: I kept whispering his name to you. Rivers pressure like

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Speaker 5: he I don't want to say it, absolutely, no doubt

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Speaker 5: solidified it. But I feel like Sunday went a long

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Speaker 5: way of getting Derek Rivers on this roster at defensive end.

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Speaker 4: Well, if certain.

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Speaker 2: Guys have this label with me, and we have a

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Speaker 2: lot of labels, especially in camp, we have impossible not

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Speaker 2: to note it and don't forget about me guy. And

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Speaker 2: this applies to regular season two. If he's healthy, he

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Speaker 2: makes plays, guy right. If Rivers is healthy, he makes plays,

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Speaker 2: simple as that. When he's out there, he's gonna be

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Speaker 2: making plays. He's a playmaking I hate to say machine,

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Speaker 2: but he's like that. The problem is health throughout his

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Speaker 2: entire career. Here he is in what year seven for him. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but it's wonderful for him that he made it, and

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Speaker 2: hopefully wonderful for the squad. I think he's a terrific

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Speaker 2: guy and he has a lot to offer.

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Speaker 4: So let's go.

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Speaker 2: This means Jacob Martin does not make it all right,

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Speaker 2: but you have Will Anderson Junior obviously, Jonathan Garnard, Dylan

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Speaker 2: Horton like you mentioned, and the salty veteran Jerry Hughes

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Speaker 2: still on the squad. And I love seeing that thirty

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Speaker 2: five years old bring it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's I mean, see Jerry and this roster, it's

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Speaker 5: just comforting.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he knows all the tricks of the trade.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I can't remember who we're talking about

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Speaker 5: with somebody, some we asked about, you know, Jerry Hughes,

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Speaker 5: you know, talking to a guy like you know, Kenyan

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Speaker 5: Green and and Jerry would be the perfect guy to

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Speaker 5: talk to Kenyan because when Jerry got drafted by the Colts,

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Speaker 5: the first few years the Colts are not We're not great.

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Speaker 1: I mean he really, you know, he.

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Speaker 5: Didn't break an egg basically, but then he moves on

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Speaker 5: in his career and ends up going to Buffalo and

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Speaker 5: all a sudden boom, the light goes on and like, wow,

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Speaker 5: there's you know, look at Jerry Hughes. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 5: tying it back into the probably the major conversation of

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Speaker 5: the day being Kenyon. Jerry Hughes is the perfect guy

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Speaker 5: to say, look, man, this is how it started for me.

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Speaker 5: You know, I got a new lease on life. It

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Speaker 5: happened to be somewhere else. I don't want it to

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Speaker 5: be somewhere else for Kenyon, but Jerry Hughes would be

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Speaker 5: the perfect guy to sit there and talk with Keny.

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Speaker 5: And the fact that he's back is awesome. I think

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Speaker 5: this past rush has got some It's got some dudes

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Speaker 5: on it. I was a little surprised about Jacob Martin.

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Speaker 5: I thought Jacob had a really good camp. But I

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Speaker 5: don't think you could keep both Jacob Martin and Derrick

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Speaker 5: Rivers because they're both They're both kind of the same

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Speaker 5: guy in some sense, and I think Rivers is probably

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Speaker 5: a little bit bigger and thicker, can maybe hold the

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Speaker 5: edge a little bit more. But that was probably that

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Speaker 5: was probably a close battle. I felt like that was

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Speaker 5: all the way through. But I think Sunday did a

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Speaker 5: lot for Derrick Rivers, for sure.

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Speaker 4: Yep, all right.

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Speaker 2: Next up, we'll continue with this conversation and also around

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Speaker 2: the league.

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Speaker 4: Johnny, what move?

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Speaker 2: Don't tell anybody what move made me happiest today from

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Speaker 2: another team?

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Speaker 1: So happy?

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about that next, among other things on Texans Radio.

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Speaker 3: Chickson's Radio continues in a moment back to the show

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Speaker 3: that keeps you plugged in with the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, so all the moves made today. Texans roster

616
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Speaker 2: is out the initial fifty three, including four running backs.

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Speaker 2: We talked about the old linement eight for now, but

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Speaker 2: you might expect a move to be made.

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Speaker 4: As Johnny pointed out, if you put.

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Speaker 2: People on IR tomorrow, then you could have the shorter

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Speaker 2: term injured reserve, which would be good for certain people

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Speaker 2: if they needed. So we don't know what's going to

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Speaker 2: happen until tomorrow. So we said this thing was fluid.

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Speaker 2: It's fluid. You know what else is fluid? Actually no,

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Speaker 2: this is written in stone, my sports hatred for the

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 4: It is written. It is there. It will never cease.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't like the horseshoe and they're gonna

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Speaker 2: be here for the home opener September seventeenth, and people

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Speaker 2: need to be in their seats at noon kickoff.

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Speaker 4: Let's go destroy the Colts. I don't care. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I do care what happens opening day.

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Speaker 2: But this is awesome to have an AFC South team

634
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Speaker 2: in here for the home opener. Dimiko Ryan's era underway.

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Speaker 2: He knows what it means.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's funny because with Lovey Smith I had to kind of.

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Speaker 4: I mean it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Look he's got bigger problems than worrying about my hatred

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Speaker 2: for the Colts, Johnny. But I remember with Lovey I said, like,

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Speaker 2: this is the Bears Packers.

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Speaker 1: Kind of right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a tremendous rivalry, it's the oldest rivalry

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Speaker 2: in the game. But I said, this is our version

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Speaker 2: of that. Okay, Texans Colts is big and we hate them.

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Speaker 1: And he got it.

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Speaker 2: He totally understood it. You don't have to explain anything

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00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 2: to Tamiko Ryan's he understands what the horse shoes all about.

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Speaker 2: And Johnny. Week two, they will not have Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 2: It's official. He's on pupped. Even if he's remarkably healthy.

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Speaker 2: They could not bring him off pupped. Federal help could

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Speaker 2: not do it. Congressional approval. Could not do it. And

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Speaker 2: I love this so much.

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Speaker 5: I know, I mean the you know, you probably need

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Speaker 5: to be a little bit more excited about this. I mean,

656
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Speaker 5: not showing your excitement as much. But here's here's here's

657
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Speaker 5: here numbers. Okay, you want numbers. Jonathan Taylor was drafted

658
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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty by the Colts. He was drafted a

659
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Speaker 5: pick forty one. Anyhow, he's played against the Texas, so

660
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Speaker 5: three years to twenty twenty one. Yeah, he's played against

661
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Speaker 5: the Texans five times. What's the record in those five

662
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Speaker 5: game for the Texans?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Four and one. Jonathan Taylor missed one game.

664
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Speaker 5: With the Colts against the Texans. What's the record in

665
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Speaker 5: that game?

666
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Speaker 1: One to Oh.

667
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Speaker 5: It's a pretty simple formula. Jonathan Taylor not on the field.

668
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Speaker 5: Not on the field for the Colts. There's an opportunity

669
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Speaker 5: for the Texans doing that game. Now, he obviously played

670
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Speaker 5: in a game that was a tie. But I looked

671
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Speaker 5: up his his uh. I looked up his career game

672
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Speaker 5: log on Pro Football Reference the other day because I'm like,

673
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Speaker 5: I know he's hurt the Texans because I've seen every

674
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Speaker 5: one of those games. I've seen them all and they

675
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Speaker 5: just they drive me insane. So the first game thirteen

676
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Speaker 5: for ninety one, three receptions for forty four yards in

677
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Speaker 5: a touchdown, next game sixteen for eighty three and a touchdown.

678
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Speaker 5: Then at twenty twenty one, Oh boy, fourteen for one

679
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 5: forty five and two touchdowns, and then later in the

680
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 5: season thirty two carries for one forty three and two

681
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Speaker 5: touchdow In the first game last year, thirty one carries

682
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Speaker 5: for one sixty one and a touchdown, four receptions for

683
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Speaker 5: fourteen yards. Week eighteen didn't play Texans one, so that

684
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Speaker 5: my friend Jonathan Taylor not being in that lineup changes everything.

685
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Speaker 5: Evan Hall, Deon Jackson, and Zach Moss are not Jonathan Taylor,

686
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Speaker 5: and I don't even know Zach Moss is going to

687
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Speaker 5: be healthy enough, and we too, we don't know because

688
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Speaker 5: they didn't get a broken hand or wrist or whatever

689
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Speaker 5: it was. So it might be Evan Hall and Deon

690
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 5: Jackson somebody else with a rookie quarterback playing on the road,

691
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Speaker 5: I believe for the first time.

692
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Speaker 2: So the Jags are opening at Indy, So Indy's gonna

693
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Speaker 2: host the defending AFC South champions, who a lot of

694
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Speaker 2: people think are the darlings and a threat to do

695
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: a whole lot of damage in this conference, despite the

696
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 2: fact that they have so many talented teams in the conference.

697
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Speaker 2: A lot of universal outside the building respect for the Jaguars.

698
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Speaker 2: So I'll be pulling for them on that day, will I.

699
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Speaker 2: I guess I will. So the Colts come in here

700
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Speaker 2: Week two. The Texans do not play another nemesis team

701
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: this year called the New England Patriots. Already took them

702
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Speaker 2: out of the preseason. We saw Bailey Zappi start that game. Well,

703
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 2: that's it for him and New England. Zap be gone today,

704
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 2: along with the quarterback who did some damage at the

705
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: end of the game, scored a touchdown, Malik Cunningham. So

706
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: Mac Jones left alone here. That was a bit of

707
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: a surprise around the league. Look, the Patriots are with

708
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Speaker 2: these guys all camp long, all offseason long. I guess

709
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: they expected Bailey Zappy to take a jump. He didn't

710
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Speaker 2: do it. It's unusual for them to dismiss a developmental quarterback,

711
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: which is what I call Zappy, but they did it,

712
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: and you know he's the backup, right. They hung on

713
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: to guys for a longer time than that who they drafted.

714
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: He didn't draft him that high, not even relatively high,

715
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Speaker 2: but they drafted him, they invested in him. You know,

716
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Speaker 2: guys like Brian Hoyer hung around the Patriots forever. You

717
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: also lost Cunningham lost, they let him go. Your thoughts

718
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: on their situation as mac Jones is the lone signal

719
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Speaker 2: caller in New England.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to think.

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Speaker 5: Honestly, when I saw that, I saw them Lee Cuttingham

722
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 5: news and that wasn't surprised. I thought, Okay, this is

723
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 5: gonna be a Belichick special to try and get him

724
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 5: back on practice squad and then they'll use him and

725
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 5: they'll teach him a different position, and away you go.

726
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 5: But then I see Bailey's Appy's gone. I'm like, wait,

727
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 5: hold on, who else is there? No, it's about corcle Jones.

728
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Speaker 5: I mean, that's it. So do the Patriots have something

729
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 5: up their sleeve? What quarterbacks are potentially still out there? Well,

730
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 5: Carson Wentz is still out there, to that possibility, Trevor

731
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 5: Simeon just got to let go. I think in Cincinnati,

732
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 5: are they gonna bring Brian Hoyer back in some way,

733
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Speaker 5: shape or form because he didn't beat out Aidan O'Connell.

734
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Speaker 5: So there are options, but it makes me think, man,

735
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Speaker 5: what happened with Bailey's Appy? Because Zappie had some starts

736
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Speaker 5: last year when Mac was banged up, and Mac's going, well,

737
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 5: Bailey's happen be one a few games, So what happened?

738
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Speaker 5: Now we know how personality classes can happen at any

739
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 5: location in the NFL, So did that happen? Was that

740
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 5: part of it? Is this just some kind of you know,

741
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 5: roster game they're playing? You know, is there a do

742
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 5: they want to bring Bailey Zappi back on the practice

743
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Speaker 5: squad but they don't want to carry him on the roster?

744
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Speaker 5: You know, there are a lot of different things, especially

745
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 5: when it comes to the Patriots, because they've done things

746
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 5: in the past where you kind of shake your head

747
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 5: and then it works out somehow for them. So I

748
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 5: got a feel and that's that's probably what this is

749
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 5: a little bit trying to make it work out and

750
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Speaker 5: I just don't.

751
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: But I don't know how.

752
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 5: I mean, I have a backup quarterback and that guy's

753
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 5: not on the roster right now. Now, Waiver claims. I

754
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 5: think are tomorrow by noon or eleven eleven am. Maybe

755
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 5: I think it's twelve Eastern, So maybe there's a waiver claim.

756
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 5: Maybe there's somebody that I don't know. Maybe there's somebody

757
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 5: that we're just not thinking about, maybe a young guy

758
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 5: that they want put Mac Jones. Did Bill O'Brien coach

759
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 5: anybody in the last few years that would be available,

760
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 5: They might know the offense. Of course, there's always Brian Hoyer,

761
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Speaker 5: and maybe they want to bring Hoyer back.

762
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Speaker 1: I know that Bill's comfortable with Hoyer.

763
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Speaker 5: I would think Bill Belichick would be comfortable with Hoyer too,

764
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Speaker 5: So potentially that's the move to bring back Brian Hoyer

765
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Speaker 5: and have that veteran influence on mac Jones as opposed

766
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Speaker 5: to Bailey's Appy, who's just in year two.

767
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Speaker 1: So maybe that's what it is.

768
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Speaker 5: That would be if I had to go to go

769
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Speaker 5: to Vegas and put money down on a situation, that's

770
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Speaker 5: probably the one.

771
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Speaker 1: I would go with.

772
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Speaker 5: I guess, but boy, that's worth watching. Holy cow, it's

773
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Speaker 5: worth watching.

774
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Speaker 2: And the Bills letting go of David Quesenberry and Greg

775
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Speaker 2: Ban's two former Texans, right. I've seen former Texans let

776
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: go all over the place today. Philip dor Set let go,

777
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,959
Speaker 2: Bradley Roby, let go by the Saints and the reason

778
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Speaker 2: why I opened the show with, Hey, free agency, you're

779
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 2: opening up the Christmas presents, you know, Dorset going to

780
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: the Raiders is not exactly a marquee busting move, but

781
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: it's if you're a Raider, Hey, this guy can fit

782
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 2: into this offense. And he worked with Josh McDaniels before

783
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: and that kind of thing, and he could be a

784
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 2: good addition. Had some moments with the Texans, but no,

785
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 2: he's now a free agent and Bradley Roby, I guess

786
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: is this I don't want to call it the end

787
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 2: of the line. Maybe he gets another job. But is

788
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 2: that an age thing, Johnny and a money thing because

789
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 2: he does have a little bit of a salary.

790
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's it's probably all the above. I mean,

791
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: just watching the other night.

792
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 5: He didn't play for for a long time, but he's

793
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 5: going into year ten and I saw him on the

794
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 5: field at one point I thought, man's been around for

795
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 5: a while. I look up, it's like he's a year ten. Wow,

796
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 5: he's been around for a while now, you know the Saints,

797
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 5: Like you said, the Saints have been the ones to

798
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 5: be able to see him at practice and see him

799
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Speaker 5: every day and see what he's still got in the tank,

800
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 5: and you know what he doesn't. But look, you know

801
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 5: Marshawn Lattimore, Paulson Adebo. I mean, they've got a couple

802
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 5: of guys that spent a lot of time at corner.

803
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 5: You know, maybe they look at Roby, you don't think

804
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 5: he's a good nical candidate at that price tag. Maybe

805
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 5: they want to bring him back at a lower price tag,

806
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 5: but I I mean I was a little surprised by that.

807
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 5: Also the fact that Isaac Yadam actually I guess you

808
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 5: could say beat him out at corner, which is kind

809
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 5: of odd. So I feel like the Saints have got

810
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 5: another move. Maybe it is to bring Roby back, but

811
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 5: they weren't able to get anything for him for in

812
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 5: a trade, so they had to they had to let

813
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 5: him go at that point. But I think Roby will

814
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 5: get some action because you know that corner position throughout

815
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 5: the league, you're just looking for anybody that can give

816
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 5: you anything in depth, and you know, you just want

817
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 5: to be deep at that position when you're facing the

818
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 5: quarterbacks in this league. So I would be surprised to

819
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 5: see him get snatched up pretty quickly and maybe even

820
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 5: the Saints snatch him up pretty quickly.

821
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Speaker 2: I'm looking at the Titans cuts and I don't see

822
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: anything of great note here. Another former Texan, Michael twet four,

823
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: got cut by them, But I don't really see anything

824
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 2: that earth shattering by them. I didn't see much by

825
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 2: the Jags or the Colts. But the Colts putting Jonathan

826
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 2: Taylor on PUP was certainly something that we were waiting for.

827
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: We were waiting to wonder. We were wondering what was

828
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 2: gonna happen. Are they gonna make a deal or put

829
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 2: him on pup? They put him on pup, So he's

830
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: on the team for at least another month or so.

831
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Speaker 2: All right, let's get to this next A little bit

832
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: of a recap on the Texans situation. If you joined

833
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: us late, some of the roster moves that have occurred,

834
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: the bigger headlines on the Texans fifty three and who's

835
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Speaker 2: not on the fifty three for now, but again, fluid

836
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: situation changes will occur. Keep following us all the social

837
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: media channels and tomorrow availability with the GM and the

838
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 2: head coach and all of it.

839
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Speaker 4: Let's get it done.

840
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Speaker 2: In the next segment, a little bit of a recap

841
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Speaker 2: on the Texans Sitch.

842
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 4: This is Texans Radio.

843
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 3: Stay tuned for more on the Houston Texans and the

844
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 3: NFL on Texans All Access. We returned to Texans All Access.

845
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Speaker 2: Mark Vanderveer and John Harris with you on cutdown Day.

846
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: Few minutes left in the show, so let's give you

847
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: some of the headlines. Kenyan Green on IR so he's

848
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 2: not going to participate this season. Needs to get healthy.

849
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: Johnny mentioned it that this is a good opportunity for him,

850
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 2: get the body right, get everything in order for twenty

851
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 2: twenty four, and take it from there. I know it's

852
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: year three, Johnny, but you mentioned it. Look, this is

853
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 2: probably what's best if he's not healthy. Obviously it's what's best.

854
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: But just get everything in order and then give it

855
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: a go. Look, he's a first round draft choice. I

856
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 2: get it. Everybody wants him to be in the Pro

857
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: Bowl this year. It's not gonna happen. You have to

858
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 2: make the best of the situation and hopefully he can.

859
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 2: Like you mentioned, Look, I remember, Look, David Quessenberry.

860
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 4: Who got released by the Bills today.

861
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 2: By the way, this is year ten for him or

862
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: whatever it is, year eleven. Actually, David Quesenberry wasn't a

863
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 2: high draft choice, but they knew right away.

864
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 4: He was going to be a hell of a player.

865
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Speaker 2: Problem was he got diagnosed right, and we know it

866
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 2: was a long journey. He eventually started right, and it

867
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: took him a long time. In fact, even though he

868
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 2: played against Pittsburgh in twenty seventeen, they felt like he

869
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna have it. But he eventually became a starter

870
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 2: in this league for good teams, playoff teams. So I

871
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: think that you have to look at examples like this.

872
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: Sometimes it doesn't happen right away, and sometimes injuries are

873
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 2: a big part of that, and it seems to be

874
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 2: the case with him.

875
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 4: So let's see if he can get it right.

876
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean think back to uh young man named

877
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 5: Jebebion Clowney. I mean, you know Clowney didn't did miss

878
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 5: a full year, but he missed a lot of his

879
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 5: rookie year. I mean he played maybe four games, came

880
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 5: back in fifteen, he still wasn't right. He probably played

881
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 5: what eight or nine games, and so he got about

882
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 5: the equivalent of what Kenyon Green had in one year.

883
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: And we were all like, man, what do we have

884
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: in Clowney? What what's the deal with Clowney? And then

885
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: in twenty.

886
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 5: Sixteen, Boom just took off like whoa, Okay, that's the

887
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 5: real Clowney. And you know, maybe that that can happen

888
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 5: for Kenyon Green just like it was for Clowney. Clowney

889
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 5: again his body right here, he get his body right,

890
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 5: and and Kenyan's got to do the same thing. And

891
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 5: I think that that could be a situation to look

892
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 5: at and you know, look, that's that's that's what we

893
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 5: have to hang on to right now.

894
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 1: And it's gonna be frustrating for a lot of people.

895
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 5: Love people in the organization, a lot of fans like, man,

896
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 5: we're really counting on Kenny Green and he's an aggie,

897
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 5: so that obviously hits at the heart of a lot

898
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 5: a lot of people as well. But you gotta get

899
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 5: you gotta get body right, to get your mind right,

900
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 5: to get all of it together, to get confidence to

901
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 5: go back out and play, uh and do what you

902
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 5: gotta do. I you know, just I was looking back

903
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 5: at the at the roster again, Mark and there are

904
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 5: three players that are listed this center slash guard and

905
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 5: then there's one with guard and that's Shack. There are

906
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 5: three that are center slash guard, Jared Patterson, Juice Scruggs,

907
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 5: and Kendrick Green.

908
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: And so I'm looking at I thinking, well, wait a second, if.

909
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 5: Juice is banged up and he's not ready to go,

910
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 5: Kendrick's new so I don't know how much they can

911
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 5: get him for Week one against Baltimore. And then you

912
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 5: got Jared Patterson, so you have enough guys to play

913
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 5: the three two guard positions in the center position, which

914
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 5: at that I think, Okay, there's there's something.

915
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: What is it, Deeter? Is it somebody else on Waiver claims?

916
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 5: Are they gonna be looking at Waiver Claims, you know,

917
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 5: tonight and trying to figure that out? And if they

918
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 5: can't find anybody, they call it Deeter and say, hey man,

919
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 5: we need you back. I don't know, but there's gotta

920
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 5: be something happening with the interior offensive line positions for sure,

921
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 5: given the the unknown nature of in particular Juice at center.

922
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 5: And I think that's that's really where I think something

923
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 5: might happen in the next day or so to try

924
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 5: and figure out what they're gonna do with the garden

925
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 5: center position with what they have on the roster right now.

926
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 4: Well, think about this.

927
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: Three of the eight offensive lineman they have on this

928
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: initial fifty three were not with the team when training

929
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 2: camp began, right, because George Fant was signed a couple

930
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 2: of days into camp, right.

931
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 4: And then you have Josh Jones.

932
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 2: You have Kendrick Green just recently acquired this week, so

933
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: that's interesting. It doesn't mean your line is bad, but

934
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 2: they're trying to deepen the line and the loss of Green.

935
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 2: You gotta deal with this, And you're right, Michael Dieter

936
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: will see what happens with him. He's out in the

937
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 2: wind right now. But he seemed to be pretty solid

938
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 2: for this team in their situation. But again, waiver claims

939
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 2: are coming, different acquisitions are possible. You have only eight

940
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: offensive linemen, so that means other position groups are going

941
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 2: to take a hit if they sign another lineman. So

942
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 2: I think that the line situation with Kenyan Green going

943
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 2: on ir probably the biggest headlines today after what happened

944
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: yesterday with the releases. Tavier Thomas is on this initial

945
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 2: fifty three as a cornerback. They have ten defensive backs,

946
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 2: five safeties, five corners. We mentioned the six linebackers, Andrew

947
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: beck In at full back, dari Agundwale is still in

948
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: at a running back position, with four running backs on

949
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: this initial fifty three. Tell me if I missed one

950
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: of the headlines.

951
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: I think that's it.

952
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 4: I mean Bredam Jordan on this fifty three.

953
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean I'm not a surprise, but he's

954
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: been banged up. Yeah, Yeah, he's been banged up.

955
00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 5: I think that's the biggest thing is he's been banned

956
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 5: up and you just don't know, you.

957
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: Know, kind of the same thing. You know, we were

958
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: kind of wondering.

959
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 5: Up loud about Brevit Jordan. You know, we even talked

960
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 5: about you know, hey, look, you know something with Mechi.

961
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 5: You know, he obviously had planned rest days during training camp.

962
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 5: You know, he didn't suit up for the game against

963
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 5: the Saints. Is there something beyond that we need to

964
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 5: know about?

965
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: You know?

966
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 5: So from that that standpoint, was good to see Mechi

967
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 5: on the fifty three. So Mechi, Brevin and Andrew Beck

968
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 5: seeing them on the fifty three like, okay, all right.

969
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 5: Then hopefully the health is good enough at that point

970
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 5: that they feel good about them being available within the

971
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 5: first two.

972
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: Three weeks of this season.

973
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 5: Because keep in mind that you're forty eight on Sunday,

974
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 5: and I think you can go to forty eight because

975
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 5: you can have eight.

976
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: Well that's the thing with offensive line.

977
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 5: You gotta have eight offensive linemen to be able to

978
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 5: get the extra on on game day. So there still

979
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 5: has to be six or seven inactive on Sunday against Baltimore. Now,

980
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 5: you got a little time to figure that out. But

981
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 5: some of these guys are banged up, but you know

982
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 5: you're gonna get him back into three weeks then okay,

983
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 5: So maybe maybe Juice ends up being inactive against Baltimore

984
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 5: because of the injury, but you still got to figure

985
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 5: out who's playing center in the two guard positions, you know.

986
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: So there's gonna be a lot of things happen.

987
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,959
Speaker 5: I would think over the next twenty four to forty

988
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 5: eight hours with this team, and it'll be interesting to

989
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 5: see how it all it all comes together. It's always

990
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 5: mark a very unique and interesting puzzle.

991
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: For sure.

992
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: It's like you're looking at the cake but you haven't

993
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 2: quite put it in the oven yet, or it's in

994
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: the evidence baking, but you can still add some ingredients

995
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 2: to it because I don't know, I don't have a

996
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 2: good metaphor here, but it's not done yet. All right, Johnny,

997
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: thanks a lot. I want to thank Jason for producing tonight.

998
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 2: We'll be back tomorrow night to talk more about this, because,

999
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 2: as Johnny said, more stuff is gonna happen. Nick Cassario

1000
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,959
Speaker 2: is gonna talk tomorrow about the roster developments, and also

1001
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: Demiko Rans will talk to the media.

1002
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 4: So plenty to reflect.

1003
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 2: On during tomorrow night's pro O Graham and on Sports

1004
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 2: Radio six ten all day long.

1005
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 4: Of course, have a great night everyone, and go Texans.