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Speaker 1: to downs Dot time. Hi there and welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Orchard Park, where it is cold, but no

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, everybody, on this Friday afternoon, the end of

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Speaker 1: Welcome Steve. Good to have you here with us. It's

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Speaker 1: In the final seconds of the Thursday night football game

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Speaker 1: in The suspensions, as Steve said, have just come out.

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Speaker 1: So the NFL today moments ago, what twelve fourteen, What

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Speaker 1: Here's what they have. Miles Garrett gets an indefinite suspension.

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Speaker 1: Dolphins two years ago when they moved us, never got

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Speaker 1: a response, and said, you know, you had a decent,

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Speaker 1: actually very good working situation set up for home and

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Speaker 1: visiting radio, and then you you ruined it. Now we're

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Speaker 1: in the corner of the end zone. They went out

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Speaker 1: and sold the premium seats. They sold the Dolphins such

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Speaker 1: good seats they sold them. Yes, they moved the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: home radio to the end zone as well. Those guys

433
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Speaker 1: aren't happy about it either. I'm sorry to be taking

434
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Speaker 1: having mirth at you. It's not fun. It's not fun.

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Speaker 1: And I look, I don't need the best seat in

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Speaker 1: the house, but I need someplace, right you, Yeah, I need.

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Speaker 1: I need to be able to see something we all do.

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00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,680
Speaker 1: But no, they're they're that's becoming kind of every nickel

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Speaker 1: off the table down there, and it's and i'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what, it's becoming more and more common. Yeah, much

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Speaker 1: just as bad in Dallas. I hate that place is

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Speaker 1: worth worse. I there was also I heard this too,

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Speaker 1: a story that came out of the Dallas This was

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Speaker 1: off behind the scenes where the Dallas radio guy they

445
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Speaker 1: move them because they you know, you think about it

446
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 1: for you at home and listeners, you gotta think, you

447
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 1: know your radio you got a pretty good view. They

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Speaker 1: give the guys they used to give the radio and

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Speaker 1: the radio play by play and the analyst and the

450
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Speaker 1: TV analyst, they can good spots to watch the game

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Speaker 1: from so they could relay the job, right, so you

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Speaker 1: can do your job and relay the greatness of the

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Speaker 1: game to all the listeners and viewers. Well it they

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Speaker 1: gave them such good spots that now those spots are

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Speaker 1: coveted and people are willing to spend big money to

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Speaker 1: sit where those guys you're used to sit. So the

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00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 1: story goes that in Dallas, the radio guy, you know,

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Speaker 1: they moved them, and then in this big, brand new

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Speaker 1: palace that they've got and now they're sitting off in

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Speaker 1: the Netherlands, you know, and in the nether reaches of

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Speaker 1: the of the building, and the guy you know, of

462
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Speaker 1: course they're well known and they got to relate like

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Speaker 1: you do with the relationship and they go hey. The

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Speaker 1: guy goes, hey, Jerry, you know, you put us all

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Speaker 1: the way back in the corner. We get to get

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Speaker 1: us some best seats. And the great response that Jerry

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Speaker 1: Gate was he because his name was whatever, Jim or whatever,

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Speaker 1: because Jim, I don't care. Yeah, they don't, I don't

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Speaker 1: care to do the game, you know, he's got. It's

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Speaker 1: just makes it's a financial decision. It's not whether they

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Speaker 1: like you or dislike you. It's totally money. And they

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Speaker 1: put you guys. And Washington does it. Uh. MetLife stadiums

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Speaker 1: actually pretty good, right, Buffalo is really good home away.

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Speaker 1: What about Cleveland? It was pretty good? Right, Cleveland's good.

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Speaker 1: And I say it's it's totally an individual stadium kind

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Speaker 1: of England's one of the best. New England's got there.

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Speaker 1: They've got one place. It's all just broadcasters and it's

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Speaker 1: and it's kind of added on. You have to walk

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Speaker 1: through the concourse to get there. But still it's a

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Speaker 1: good view. Just another reason for me to hate the Dolphins, right.

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Speaker 1: Two and seven's too good for that group. Seriously, I

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Speaker 1: want to see them go two and fourteen, and they might.

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Speaker 1: They're not very good. I watch more Dolphins last night.

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Speaker 1: They are not a really good Just think they want

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Speaker 1: to go to and to and eight right now? Yes,

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Speaker 1: and I think they will. I told you, yes, I

487
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Speaker 1: have a good feeling about this. I asked Sean McDermot today, um,

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Speaker 1: are they better than they were a month ago when

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Speaker 1: you had him? And he said, you know what, they're

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Speaker 1: pretty much the same. But he also said, no one

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Speaker 1: believed me a month ago that they were okay. And

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Speaker 1: I said, yeah, no one did believe you. You're right

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Speaker 1: about that. I watched more Dolphins last night. It was

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Speaker 1: a great TV sports night last night. I watched Dolphins

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Speaker 1: for a while. That's on my own. I watched my

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Speaker 1: NBA team play and lose Cleveland. I watched the beginning

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Speaker 1: of the football game and then turned over, watched the

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Speaker 1: third period in overtime a hockey, and went back to

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Speaker 1: the football game until a little bit past half time,

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Speaker 1: and you were watching the Buffalo Sabers. I was at

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Speaker 1: the Sabers game and I was there with you know,

502
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Speaker 1: a three year old and a one year old, so

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Speaker 1: we had to leave between the second and third, right,

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Speaker 1: So I was listening to the I was watching the

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Speaker 1: first couple of periods. Then I watched the end of

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Speaker 1: the game actually at home and watched the watch the

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Speaker 1: Saves tie it up and then lose it in overtime.

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Speaker 1: Good hockey game, still entertaining stuff to watch, but you know,

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Speaker 1: it's at this point our team, the Saves, he always

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Speaker 1: feels like. And I was talking to the instigators, you know,

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Speaker 1: I was asked them what my opinion should be. But

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Speaker 1: our guys, you know, it seems like they got to

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Speaker 1: play a little bit over their head against a really

514
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Speaker 1: good team like Carolina. They got to play over their

515
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Speaker 1: head to win those games instead of just Carola, like

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Speaker 1: Carolina just appears like, you know, they are playing. Our

517
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Speaker 1: guys really have to step it up to win a

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Speaker 1: game like that. But they almost did, and good for them.

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Speaker 1: And I'm, yeah, still playing a lot, but it's still

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Speaker 1: a fun team to watch. Our the Sabers are and

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Speaker 1: I'm still I still got high hope for the season.

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Speaker 1: All right, So we have a lot to talk about

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Speaker 1: here today. We got, We got some calls lined up.

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Speaker 1: We'll take those in a minute or two. But we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get to a guy who has a pretty good

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Speaker 1: feel of what the league is all about, what the

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Speaker 1: league offense is all about, and we'll talk with Andrew

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Speaker 1: Brandt about the business of football and these fines and

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Speaker 1: suspensions for the fight last night. He's standing body to

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Speaker 1: join us in a moment. And if you've just joined us,

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Speaker 1: Miles Garrett is suspended indefinitely for at least the rest

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Speaker 1: of this season and the postseason, plus they'll get a fine.

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Speaker 1: Offensive lineman Marquise Pouncy of the Steelers three games, and

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Speaker 1: he'll get a fine as well, and Larry Ogan Jobie

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Speaker 1: of the Cleveland Browns gets one game plus a fine.

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Speaker 1: And each team gets fined as well, the Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 1: and Cleveland Browns, each of them find um undred fifty

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars. All right, Oh, we got we don't have

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Speaker 1: Andrew Bran to one thirty. I'm talking about that. Andrew

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Speaker 1: Bran's come up later. I think Greg's coming up next,

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Speaker 1: isn't he No, Greg Cosell, No, he's coming up at one.

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Speaker 1: We got time to take your calls. And your tweets.

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Speaker 1: We'll read that when we come back, So come on

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Speaker 1: back with us. One Bill's Live, presented by Collida Health,

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Speaker 1: coming to you from the Seneca Studio at One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 1: And this is Buffalo Bills Radio. One Bill's Live. John Murphy,

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Speaker 1: Steve task around this Friday afternoon. I'm headed to uh,

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Speaker 1: South Florida tomorrow for the Bills on the Dolphins. Steve

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00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: was warm sunny South Florida. Stea's going to a warm,

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Speaker 1: sunny Hamilton, Ontario, Sunday. Right, Um, great cup? Great my playoffs? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: CFL semifinals Hamilton. They playing. Since I think I read

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Speaker 1: it this morning, eighteen seventy three, it played a great Cup.

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00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: Dam And the NFL is one hundred years old, So

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00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 1: that's nineteen plus twenty seven, right, something like that. Forty

555
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 1: six years older than the NFL. That's amazing. It is amazing.

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00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 1: It's almost fifty years older. All right? What do you

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00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,719
Speaker 1: think your reaction to the Miles Garrett incident? The suspensions

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00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 1: are out. Garrett suspended indefinitely for at least the rest

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Speaker 1: of this season and the pro season, plus a fine

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00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: marquis penency three games, plus a pint a fine, Larry

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00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: Ogan joby one game plus a fine the Browns and Seelers.

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Speaker 1: He each find two hundred fifty thousand dollars. What do

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Speaker 1: you think we'll take? Calls Mark and Buffalo. Go ahead

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Speaker 1: and Mark, you're on the air. Hi, guys, how are

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Speaker 1: you good? I got two quick points that I'd like

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Speaker 1: to hear your guys opinion on disagreedious as that was

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00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: that happened last night. I understand its physical game, emotional game,

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Speaker 1: and there's always that potential for something crazy to happen

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Speaker 1: that's understood. What really, really always amazes me is when

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Speaker 1: these incidents happen, whether it's time the field or even

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00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: things that happen off the field that are socially unacceptable,

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Speaker 1: the silence of the owners of these teams when it

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Speaker 1: happens to me last night was a perfect situation for

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Speaker 1: the owner of the Cleveland Browns before anybody else said

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Speaker 1: a word, not leave it to his coaches as general managers,

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Speaker 1: whoever else pr people answer a bunch of crazy questions

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Speaker 1: to step in front of a microphone and say, look, everybody,

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Speaker 1: this is not what my organizations about. This is not

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Speaker 1: what my people are about. We are a class organization,

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Speaker 1: and as of right now, Miles Garrett is suspended by

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns pending a review of the NFL and

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Speaker 1: determining what they're going to do moving forward. But we

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Speaker 1: will not accept this in any way, shape or form period.

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Speaker 1: End of story. That's a good point, Mark, what else

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00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: you got? Well before we move on from that point?

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00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: Similar to what Steve was saying about Freddie Kitchens taking

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00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: manners into his hand, at least in terms of an apology,

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00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: right teams, I think Mark sounded a good a point here.

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00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: Teams are reluctant to act forcefully and they kind of

590
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: let the league do the dirty work for him exactly,

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Speaker 1: and then the other thing really quick, and I'll let

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00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: you move on. I know you got a lot of callers.

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00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: I slipped on NFL Network last night after the game

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00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: and they had Jarvis and Beckham on the day I

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00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: was talking and they're sitting here and talking like choirboys,

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Speaker 1: like they're these first character guy individuals. And I'm sitting

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00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: there thinking, you are probably two of the biggest guys

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Speaker 1: causing at a very undisciplined selfish attitude in that locker room,

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00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: and here you are on national TV serving your own

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00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: special interests and acting like this. Now I thought it

601
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: was so hypocritical and ridiculous. How to turn it off? Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not gonna jump on those two guys, because,

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00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: believe me, they got asked to be up there on

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Speaker 1: the diets. They didn't. They didn't go up there and

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Speaker 1: bust their way in and say, hey, let me talk

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Speaker 1: about this. They were they had. They went up and

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00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: they were asked to do that, and they answered the

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Speaker 1: questions that they had. Uh, certainly. I'll tell you one thing.

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Speaker 1: I'll tip my hat to the players that I heard

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Speaker 1: speak last night, and including those you just mentioned, but

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Speaker 1: also Baker Mayfield and the other guys the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 1: They all of them denounced what happened, what Miles Garrett did,

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Speaker 1: They took ownership of it, said it was unacceptable, said

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Speaker 1: it wasn't Yeah, there was no place for It's not

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Speaker 1: the kind of team they want. So on that respect,

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Speaker 1: they all said the same thing. And I don't so

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Speaker 1: I'm not for whatever you think about ob j and

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Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry and those guys and the stuff that's happened

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Speaker 1: in their past. They did the right thing in that position.

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Speaker 1: Whether you think they're genuine or not, or whether you

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Speaker 1: think it's hypocritical or not. I think they did the

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Speaker 1: right thing and doing what they did what they said.

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Speaker 1: I see when markus saying and I'm glad to agree

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Speaker 1: because especially in terms of Jarvis Landry, who has been

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Speaker 1: a cheap shot artist asked Aaron Williams. Right, Bills fans

626
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: know that, and I think in general, and look, both

627
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: teams were at fault last night. They've both been fine,

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Speaker 1: but the Cleveland Browns have been an out of control

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Speaker 1: wreck of a team since the offseason. Right, they really

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00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: have been losing stupid fines for footwear and who's wearing

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Speaker 1: the right color? Advisors just they are the worst. I

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Speaker 1: don't care what the record is. They are the worst

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Speaker 1: of the NFL. And that's why I think the league

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Speaker 1: has acted. One of the reasons why the league acted

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Speaker 1: so quickly today to send a message to the rest

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Speaker 1: of the league and to teams like the Browns, like, look,

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Speaker 1: there's no place for you your team that action in

638
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: this game. You know we we we're gonna have teams

639
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: under control. Your team is not under control. Miles Garrett's

640
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: helmets swinging reinforces at now Yes, they said the right thing.

641
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: We got Baker Mayfield talking about Here's Baker Mayfield in

642
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: the locker room last night talking about Miles Garrett's helmet

643
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: swinging incident. I didn't see why it started. But that's inexcusable.

644
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,959
Speaker 1: You know, I don't care a rivalry or not. We

645
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: can't do that. That's that's kind of the history of

646
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: you know what's been going on here lately, hurting yourself

647
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: and that's just endangering the other team. That's inexcusable. He

648
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: knows that. I hope he does now. It's just it's tough.

649
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: We'll see Mason Rudolph a friend of yours, Miles Garrett

650
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: a teammate of yours. What were you saying to your

651
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: teammates over there to kind of calm everybody down. I

652
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: don't think there's anything in that moment that I can

653
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: really say to calm down. You know what, the reality

654
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: is he's gonna get suspended, we don't know how long,

655
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: and that hurts our team and we can't do that.

656
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: We can't continue to hurt this team. That's that's inexcusable. No,

657
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: that's a good point to bring you to your point.

658
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: You're right, Baker, Meafield said the right thing for what

659
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: he for all the stuff that he's been around around

660
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: the media, he doesn't shy away from that stuff. He's

661
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: in commercials, he's very out there. He's the voice and

662
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: face of that franchise. He said all the right things,

663
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: and he did it in the right way. I thought

664
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: he was. It seemed genuine to me. Whether you can

665
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: take the other guys and what they said is at

666
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: face value or not, it's on each of us to decide.

667
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: But I thought the rest of the roster handled it well,

668
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: and even Myles Garrett and we played his sound. He

669
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: was questioned obviously at length after the game as well

670
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: at his locker in the locker room, and and he

671
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: took ownership of it as well. Now you can say

672
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: what you want about how far he went or whatever,

673
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: but they owned up to it. And I'll make the

674
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: point again, I think the league gets an opportunity for

675
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: the league to send a message that will be remembered.

676
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: And I think that's the key thing. You don't you know,

677
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: this is about the league and what it stands for

678
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: and where it's headed and what it will tolerate. And

679
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: I think they should hit this with a big big

680
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: hammer if they want, if they don't want stuff like

681
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: this to happen, pretty big hammer. Already no six games

682
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: plus postseason, and it's indefinite, and you got to come

683
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: back for a hearing before we talk about you coming

684
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: back in. I mean, that's just to be twelve hours

685
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: after the incident. I think they've hit them pretty hard,

686
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: and I think there's more to come. Well. I think

687
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: this is too. I think that the fact that they

688
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: find both teams two hundred and fifty grand is not

689
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: is good because they get to hold the club's accountable

690
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: as well. You if you're gonna hire guys, hold your

691
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: guys accountable, don't let them act like this. Make sure

692
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: your culture and your team doesn't condone this or allow

693
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: it to happen. I think that's a nice addition to

694
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: the suspensions and finds on the players. The clubs should

695
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: be held responsible for this as well, and I and

696
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: I think I'm applauding that part of it. This morning,

697
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 1: let's take let's take a call from Kramer and Amhurst. Hello, Kramer,

698
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: you're on the air. How are you guys? Yeah, I

699
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 1: just wanted to comment about that. I mean, I think

700
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: my opinion of the NFL is that it's gotten more

701
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 1: in tech than say like the NHL or something like that.

702
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: It's I mean, because they have a monopoly in the

703
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: you know, in American football. There's no other league you

704
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 1: know that's that's equal to that in the world, you know,

705
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: so they can call the shots more than say, like

706
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: the NHL. And what I feel what happened yesterday was horrible.

707
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 1: I mean, that's something that would be that you'd see

708
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: something like that in the NHL and so forth. But

709
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: in the NFL they don't. They don't go for that

710
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: type of stuff. If somebody throws the fish, they're rejected

711
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: out of a game. And I respected, I think that's

712
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: wonderful about the NFL. I don't think the NHL palerates it. Right,

713
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: you start swinging sticks in the NHL, you're gonna be right.

714
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it's amazing that it doesn't happen in the NHL.

715
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: A bunch with they got, they give all guys, those

716
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: guys weapons anyway, you know, I mean, they got all

717
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 1: carrying around a club, you know, so and it doesn't

718
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: happen because they know it's it's an egregious penalty. It's

719
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: a penalty when it happens by accident, let alone if

720
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: you do it deliberately. But I'm you know, I'm I'm

721
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: with you. I think it was. I think it's a

722
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: chance to set a precedent for the league. And I

723
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: don't think they should. I think they should. I don't

724
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 1: want to say go over the top. I mean, I'm

725
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: not saying suspend Miles Garrett for life or anything like that,

726
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: but it's got to be a penalty that the players

727
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: will remember, and it will be talked about by the

728
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: old guys for the young guys. And let's face it,

729
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: and this this too, and I thought about this as well. Today.

730
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: You got college players watching this league. You've got parents,

731
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: you got parents of kids who play youth football, you

732
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: got coaches at lower levels. They watch how it's handled

733
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: at the highest levels, and that's what trickles down. And

734
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: I think you need to send a message to the

735
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: sport from top to bottom that this is not something

736
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: that you're going to tolerate at all, and it's an

737
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 1: egregious penalty that is going to be dealt with as such.

738
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: So I just don't I think you need to go

739
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: a little beyond just Miles Garrett. I guess is what

740
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So again, it's an indefinite suspension. He's out,

741
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: Garrett's out this year, postseason included. So how long is fair?

742
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: And we're just guessing here, And you should know that

743
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: Montes Berfect is in the middle of a twelve game

744
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: suspension for on field These are the longest suspensions previous

745
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: suspensions for on field behavior. Vantes Perfect with a number

746
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: of offenses twelve games, Albert Haynesworth five games, Perfect earlier

747
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, five games Perfect four years ago,

748
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: five games, three games, Antonio Smith three games. Um, I

749
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: don't know what's appropriate. So he's got six here, which

750
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: would make him the second longest after Perfect and all

751
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,479
Speaker 1: of his the longest man for a single on field

752
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: incident five games Albert Haynesworth two thousand and six. So

753
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: he got six, yere, I don't know what's what's fair.

754
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: You said, take a year of his career, twelve months,

755
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: which would be six plus eight fourteen games. That's a lot. Yeah,

756
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: that's pretty serious. It is pretty serious, and it's yeah,

757
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: and I it should match the dent he put in

758
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, it's gonna take a while for the

759
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: league to get around this, you know, I mean this

760
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: is it's a block there and it's not going away.

761
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: Here's Mark in Jersey City. Hello, Mark, Welcome to the show.

762
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: Good afternoon, gentlemen. Thanks for having the quick thing on

763
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: the bills to light up the scoreboard. Whistle to whistle.

764
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: It's high time. It's high time against that team. They

765
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 1: should just tear them the bits. And as it relates

766
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: to this incident, my god, how does Open Joey not

767
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: get a bigger suspension one game for attacking a defenseless

768
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: player helmetless players who had just been hit in a

769
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: helmet from in the back. That is ridiculous. Yeah, I'm

770
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: in total lockstep with Steve about about Garrett twelve months

771
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: minimum that organization. This is what John Dorsey has done.

772
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: He brings in hunt after he assaults a woman in

773
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: the offseason. He had a hand in drafting Tyrant Hill

774
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: with his issues. He had a hand in drafting Baker

775
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: Mayfield who was tackled by police. There's a video it

776
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: just the types of guys that he brings in a

777
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: and the biggest they had just released a guy early

778
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: in a day who had a checker passed at Florida.

779
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: Yea a third round pick. I mean, this is the

780
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: culture that they breathed there, so this is not a

781
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: shot and that's why I have no holds for them

782
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 1: going forward, because this is the type of culture that's

783
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: fostered there from the gm Ontown. This is where the

784
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars league fine comes from, too,

785
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: I believe, don't you think so, Mark? Of course, And

786
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: I think it should be more. This is not a

787
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: football story anymore. This is a national story football. I agree, Mark,

788
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: and that's why I think that the punishment should be

789
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: commensurate with the size of the black eye that it

790
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: gives the league. And I don't have a problem sending

791
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: a message through one act like this to the rest

792
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: of the players, not only in the league now, but

793
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 1: in the league in the next few years and the

794
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: lower levels of football. They should get it loud and clear,

795
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: and it should resonate all the way down through youth football.

796
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: And I think it would do the game a service.

797
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: And I guess you could just say the old trite

798
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: saying you should make an example of Miles Garrett in

799
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: this situation. It's called from Dominic in Rochester. Hello Dominic,

800
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Hey, how you guys doing Okay? Um,

801
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say I really like what the

802
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: NFL did, how they they addressed it really quick. The

803
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: next day they got him out the rest of the season.

804
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 1: I would like to see you go on to next Yearry,

805
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: you know, maybe at least four games in the next year.

806
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's uncalled for. You know, like Steve mentioned earlier,

807
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 1: he got kids watching the show. You know is his idol,

808
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett. You know, eleven thirty at night, how many

809
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: kids are watching. Well, they don't have to be watching

810
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: last night to know. If you turn your phone on now,

811
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a video of it. Go ahead over

812
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: kids seeing it, you know, And it's just, uh, it's

813
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: no good, you know, the kids. Anybody just sees the kid,

814
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: the guy hit him with the helmet. It's that's that's

815
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: no good for football. It's not football, you know. And

816
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: I agree. I feel like I feel like the NFL

817
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: handled it good, as in getting getting to spend the

818
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: rest of the year this year. You know, we'll see

819
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: what else happens. But and another thing I wanted to

820
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: start trying to Mason. I didn't see Mason Rudolph get anything. Uh,

821
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: and he did grab Miles garrett helmet and uh, he

822
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 1: wasn't involved. I don't know if he's gonna get a

823
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 1: fine or not. But um, what do you guys feel

824
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: about mish Wolf? You think you should have got at

825
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: least a game or anything for well, I mean it depend,

826
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: I mean it was no, I don't Uh what he

827
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: did should have been a personal file, no question. Um,

828
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: he got rid of the ball before Miles Garrett tackled him,

829
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: and then Myles Garrett continued and continued and continue to

830
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: tackle him. I know it only took him maybe three

831
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: quarters of a second, but that's a long time on

832
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: a football field. When things happened so fast, Rudolph had

833
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: gotten rid of the football and Garrett kept tackling him

834
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: until he twisted around and all the way and then

835
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: pulled him onto the ground. That's what That's what got

836
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph going was the fact that the ball had

837
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: been gone and Myles Garrett continued to go ahead, spin

838
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: around and tackle him. And don't give me that Miles

839
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: Garrett didn't know the ball was gone. He did, So

840
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: that's what set Mason Rudolph off off Rudolph off and

841
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: then you know everything escalated from there. So yeah, my

842
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: Rudolph should get a penalty, no question about it, and

843
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: maybe a fine. But yeah, don't Yeah, Mason Rudolph shouldn't

844
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: get thrown under the bus for anything going to happen

845
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: to that. I mean, he should have gotten a penalty.

846
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, discipline will be forthcoming. Anticipate he'll get a fine. Yeah,

847
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Speaker 1: it's fine. Yeah, he should. I think he can. He

848
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: he was grabbing face masks and stuff too. I don't

849
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: have a problem with that, but he shouldn't get suspended.

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Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna take a break. We'll talk more

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Speaker 1: about this when we return. Come on back with us.

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Speaker 1: so far today by the news from the NFL that

857
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: came out to less than an hour ago. Suspensions for

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Speaker 1: the Principles in last night's fight in Cleveland. Miles Garrett,

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00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: the helmet swinger in definite suspension for at least the

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00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: rest of the season and a fine including playoffs. Marquise

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00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 1: Pouncey of the Steelers gets three games plus a fine.

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00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: Larry Ogan Jobey of the Browns gets one game plus

863
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 1: the fine. Browns and Steelers each fine two hundred fifty

864
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars. What do you think of that? Give us

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Speaker 1: We're gonna read him now on the tweet sheet. Brought

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00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. From Davy on Twitter, says a question

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00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: I have not heard anyone asked, why didn't Garrett just

871
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: stand up, say scoreboard and walk away. Everybody knows the

872
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: one who retaliates gets punished. Garrett did not need to retaliate.

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00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: Guys were already They're trying to separate them. Says a

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00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 1: lot about Garrett. Yes, it does. It's a very good question.

875
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: Browns were in command of that game. He could have

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00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: gotten up, walked away and say, hey, we just beat

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00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: you Steelers. Mason Rudolph, you didn't play that well. You

878
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,479
Speaker 1: didn't we Why didn't you to do it? I don't know. Well, yeah,

879
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: there's a lot of layers to it, and you can

880
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: go as deep as you want to go. I went

881
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: through the blow by blow with you, Murph in the break.

882
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph got rid of the pass on that play

883
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: before Garrett tackled him. Garrett tackled him after the ball

884
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: was gone. Once he hugged him in the manner in

885
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: which he hugged him that I see on the video.

886
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: He knew good and well the ball wasn't there, and

887
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: continued to twist around and then pull him to the ground.

888
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: And that's what set Mason Rudolph off. So Rudolph retaliates

889
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: for the extracurricular stuff that Garrett gave him on the tackle,

890
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 1: grabbed his helmet and then it's off to the races

891
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: from there. It's just it's an arms race. You know.

892
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: If you do this to me, I'm gonna do this

893
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: to you. That kind of thing. And then it ended

894
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: up Miles Garrett doing the coup day grab. I swinging

895
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: the helmet off the top from over the top rope

896
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: and you know you're I ain't gonna fly no, and

897
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: I and I well, like I said, and I'm not

898
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: I see what everybody sees. Believe me, I've seen it

899
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: a thousand times. I hate to say I've seen it

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00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 1: a thousand times in my own career. That doesn't happen

901
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: that much, very often, that much anymore because the league

902
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: has evolved away from that kind of you know, renegade

903
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: mentality that I came into the league with and back

904
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: in the other century. So you don't see it very much.

905
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: But it's, lets face it, it's only one step farther

906
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: than everything you see in every melee in every NFL

907
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: game that you see him Malay in there's there's a scuffle,

908
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 1: if there's a five guys are grabbing each other's face

909
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 1: mask until somebody pulls them apart. This went one step

910
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: further than that. There you go. Um, you've seen them

911
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: guys get their helmets ripped off before it happens once

912
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: in a while. This is a step beyond that. If

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00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: the league wants to draw a line that they don't

914
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: want players to cross, you better use a big paint

915
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: brush and make that line really, really visible and one

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00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: that nobody wants to cross. And that's where these suspensions

917
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 1: and penalties come in. And I think right now, I'm

918
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: I'm thinking they're not big enough. Well, you don't know

919
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: how long the garret suspension is. How can you say that?

920
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: What do you mean it's not big enough? Until I know?

921
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: I don't know? You said, I'm thinking it's not big enough.

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00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: You don't know how long it is? This one indefinite.

923
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: It's not big enough. What do you want that's infinite suspension?

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00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: I want to I want to know how long that's

925
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: gonna be. What if it's indefinite twelve hours ago? If

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Speaker 1: I love them, let me say this. I love the

927
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: fact that the League acted this quickly. I do too.

928
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Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be next week, Monday,

929
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: maybe the quiet day Tuesday. I love the fact the

930
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: League jumped on this and let and now they're letting

931
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: people know this will not stand. We've got an indefinite

932
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: suspension on the main culprit last night and we're gonna

933
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: meet with him, and who knows that it may go

934
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: into next year. It may, but I love the fact

935
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: that they acted so quickly. And look, any suspension, these

936
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: guys have three what three days to appeal, They're likely

937
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: all going to appeal. Any suspension is going to be

938
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 1: subject to appeal, and if the league tries to suspend

939
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 1: Garrett for you know, an into next year twelve games

940
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: full season, there will be lawsuits. So I love the

941
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: fact that they jumped on this quickly, expeditiously. They sent

942
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: a message right away, this will not stand and chill

943
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: you can wait and see along. Infinitely. Yeah, indefinitely. He's

944
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 1: much better than you know, the three games that Ogan

945
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: Joby got. You know, he got one game, We got

946
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: one game or whatever whoever else got or pounces he

947
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: got three games. I'm sorry. So it's better than that.

948
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: He got suspended indefinitely. Certainly, it wasn't going to be

949
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: a less Joe. We need more than that. You No,

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00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: I don't wouldn't think. So those are fair. Yeah, I'm

951
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: I'm I'm thinking. But even those ones. You just read

952
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: the five games, and now that that even bunts perfect

953
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: twelve and this is this is beyond that to me. Yeah,

954
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: perfect was the number of incidents? Care Well, I think

955
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: the league does set all perfect incidents and say this

956
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: adds up a cumulative effect of twelve games. Well. A

957
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: couple more from Twitter from Brian R. Garrett should never

958
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: play in the NFL again. In Thursday Prime time we

959
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: witnessed assault with a deadly weapon. He ripped off RUDOLPH'SLN.

960
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: Let's swung it at Rudolph's I'm protected head and make

961
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 1: contact with full force. Rudolph is lucky he avoided serious injury.

962
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: That's pretty serious. And Big Multi tweets this and Garrett

963
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: should never play another down. He literally could have killed

964
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: him if any one of us did dead and Hammer's lot,

965
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 1: we're going to jail. He will just get suspended. NFL

966
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: was looking bad right now. Well, that is the truest thing,

967
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: Big Multi set. The NFL does look bad right now.

968
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: They're trying to fix it and move quickly today to

969
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: try to fix it, and we'll see where this suspension

970
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: winds up. I'm as outraged as Big Multi or or

971
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: from Brian r neither, because what's the difference between how

972
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: you use your helmet, whether you've got it like a

973
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: like a hammer, or you're wearing it on your head

974
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: and use it. There's a difference. Come on, still, a

975
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: deadly it's the same weapon. Why is he got an

976
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: indefinite suspension? Why is he? Oh? I don't I'm not

977
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: saying he didn't do any wrong. Of course he did

978
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I don't have a this how he

979
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: should be in You know, there's a there's a there's

980
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: a voice out there in the in the universe that

981
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: we're you know, chiming in here as that like it's assault.

982
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: Will it be charges pressed outside the game? Oh no, no,

983
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: there's not gonna be. That's crazy talk. Yes, I mean,

984
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: and I you don't. You don't compare what happened on

985
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: the football field to what happens at the corner store.

986
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: It's that's lunacy. Uh, that's crazy talk to go down

987
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 1: that road, because it doesn't hold up under any scrutiny

988
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: at all. This has happened on a professional athletic field

989
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: where big, strong guys do physical things against each other's will.

990
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 1: They push each other against you will, they pull them

991
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: down against their will. They bang into each other against

992
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: the other person's will. Um, So it's that's what the

993
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: game is about. So don't think just because the guy

994
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: held the helmet in his hand, it's that much different.

995
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: Although it is, Uh, it's not different than when the

996
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: guys earlier in the game we're using it as a

997
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: spear and they got penalized for it. So don't think

998
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: that that just because it crosses that line that it

999
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: crosses like the criminal intent line. Um, that's crazy talk.

1000
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: It was wrong. The guy's egregious. Everybody is appropriately disgusted

1001
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: about it. Uh. And that's the way it's gonna end.

1002
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: But don't think anybody's gonna go outside the league and say,

1003
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna like Mason Rudolph's gonna

1004
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: file charges against Miles Garrett. That is that's crazy to

1005
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: raise that possibility. You saw that, right, that's what agents do.

1006
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 1: We breaking. We're coming back with Greg co Sell, executive producer,

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00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: senior producer at NFL Films, Executive producer of NFL Matchup,

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00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: Greg go Sell. We'll talk about this a little bit

1009
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Speaker 1: bit more on the matchups this weekend that's coming up

1010
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 1: when we return. Come on back. One Bill's Live presented

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1013
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: It comes from One Bill's Drive. The news from the NFL.

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Speaker 1: There are suspensions already from last night's brawl in the

1015
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: Cleveland Pittsburgh game. The league has indefinitely suspended Brown's defensive

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00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: end Miles Garrett. He gets indefinite suspension for at least

1017
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,959
Speaker 1: the rest of this regular season and postseason, plusifying. Larry

1018
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: Ogan Joby, his Browns teammate, gets one game plus defining,

1019
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: and Steeler's offensive lineman Marquis Pounce He gets three games plusifying.

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00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: The league says that additional discipline for other players will

1021
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: be forthcoming throughout the standard accountability process. Those suspensions may

1022
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: be appealed within the next couple of days, but the

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00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 1: league acted quickly after those three players were rejected after

1024
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: the brawl in the end zone and near the end

1025
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 1: zone in Cleveland last night. Well. The Bills had wrapped

1026
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: up their practice inside the ad Pro Sports Training Center today,

1027
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: getting set to lead for Miami tomorrow and Sunday's game

1028
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: against the Dolphins. The Bills look to have looks. It

1029
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: appears they've solved their turnover problem and now they can

1030
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 1: get back to winning after losing two of their last three.

1031
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: They had ten turnovers in the first four games in September,

1032
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: most of the NFL, but since then, October and November,

1033
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: the Bills the last five games they've only turned it

1034
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: over twice. That's tied for fewest in the league injuries. Today,

1035
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: defensive en Jerry Hughes was not dressed an apparent ground issue.

1036
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: No update yet from the Bills on what that's all about.

1037
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: The Dolphins expect to get safety Brashot Jones back in

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00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: the line of Sunday, a full participant yesterday in practice.

1039
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: He has been out for just about a month. Missed

1040
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: the first Buffalaba game with a knee injury. Bills Miami

1041
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: Sunday one o'clock Hard Rock Stadium followed the game on

1042
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: our flagship right here, WGR Sports Radio five fifty. I'll

1043
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: have to call with Eric Wood in the booth. Salcapacha

1044
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: will be on the side Fins. The Eagles have put

1045
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: running back Darren's Sprawls on the injured reserve list. He

1046
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: will miss the remainder of the season. He suffered a

1047
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: torn right hip flexor muscle. He was injured October six

1048
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Speaker 1: against the Jets. He's thirty six years old, maybe the

1049
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 1: end of his career. Former NFL head coach you Jackson

1050
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: will lead the drills during Colin Kapepernick's scheduled workout in

1051
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: Atlanta tomorrow. With about eleven teams already committing and the

1052
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Speaker 1: Sabers practicing today, getting set for a home game tomorrow

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Speaker 1: night against the Ottawa Senators. And there you go. That's

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Speaker 1: the update from One Bill's Drive from our Seneca, Buffalo studio,

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Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker. It's one o'clock on a Friday.

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Speaker 1: That means our regular guest is Dandy May. He is

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Speaker 1: executive producer analyst of NFL Matchup on ESPN. You can

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Speaker 1: catch that tomorrow at seven am on ESPN two. You

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Speaker 1: can catch it Sunday at four am and six thirty

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Speaker 1: am on ESPN. He is senior producer of NFL Films.

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Speaker 1: Happy to have Great Cosell on the line with us,

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Speaker 1: Happy to talk about something other than that fight last night. Greg,

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Speaker 1: it's been kind of a disturbing first hour us. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you're ready to move on and talk about some

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Speaker 1: of these matchups, right, Oh? Absolutely, I mean that's stuff.

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Speaker 1: I never know what to say about things like that.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that it just got adjudicated pretty quickly and

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Speaker 1: we'll go from there. Let's talk some football talk, some Bills, Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling I told Steve this, well, I

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Speaker 1: want to get your take on this. I don't see

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Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. They've won two in a row. I

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Speaker 1: get that. I don't see them as that much different

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Speaker 1: a team than the one that came up here a

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Speaker 1: month ago, though, And in fact, they may have less

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Speaker 1: options offensively than they had here a month ago. What

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Speaker 1: do you think possible? But I you know, I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what. He's not going to be a Hall of Famer, obviously,

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Speaker 1: And you guys are real familiar with Ryan Fitzpacker because

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Speaker 1: he played there for a couple of years and actually

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Speaker 1: played well. But I admire this guy so much. You know,

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Speaker 1: people lose sight of the number of games he's started

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Speaker 1: in this league. I think he started over one hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty games coming out of Harvard. There's there's just

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Speaker 1: a way he plays. He fights, He throws a pretty

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Speaker 1: good ball, can still move very well even in his

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Speaker 1: advancing years by NFL standards for a quarterback. Sure can

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Speaker 1: he throw a bad pick here and there, absolutely, which

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Speaker 1: is why at times he's been the starter and then

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Speaker 1: not been the starter. But there's a toughness, a resilience

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Speaker 1: to his game. You know, just as someone who loves football,

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Speaker 1: I think he's kind of fun to watch. What's he

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Speaker 1: done for the Dolphins' offense. Has it gotten better? What

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Speaker 1: are they able to do because he's in there at quarterback?

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Speaker 1: You know the best right answer that, Stephen and you

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Speaker 1: having been an offensive player, and I think he's stabilized

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Speaker 1: what they do, in other words, the plays that are

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Speaker 1: there to be made. And there's always plays like that

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Speaker 1: in every game where the design of the past concept

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Speaker 1: creates the throw and he makes those throws for the

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Speaker 1: most part, and then he gives you the element of

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Speaker 1: second reaction ability, improvisational ability both to move and throw

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Speaker 1: and to move and run. So what he does is

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Speaker 1: he when he's at his best, he secute your offense.

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Speaker 1: What about Kaylin lash who now is the number one

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Speaker 1: running back down there, I don't know what to make

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Speaker 1: of him. Certainly it's it's not the same as when

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Speaker 1: they had the running backs they had earlier this year,

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Speaker 1: including Walton who's now on suspension. You know, Blaj is

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Speaker 1: a fascinating guy. I watched him at Arizona State and

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Speaker 1: I kept going back and forth in my own mind

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Speaker 1: as to what he was murth because he's a big

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Speaker 1: man with very good straight line speed. But I don't

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Speaker 1: think he has a whole lot of agility. There are times,

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Speaker 1: and again not knowing what's in his head, but there

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Speaker 1: are times watching a man that size run inside. I

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Speaker 1: don't think he runs with any kind of consistent physical toughness,

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Speaker 1: so you know, if he can hit a gap, he

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Speaker 1: can go. I know last year he had a seventy

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Speaker 1: five yard run and boy he looked good doing that.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think at this point, despite his size,

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Speaker 1: he shows the traits of a sustaining back, which is

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Speaker 1: what you would want a two hundred and thirty pound

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Speaker 1: back to be. How big a role did the turnovers

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Speaker 1: last week against the Colts play and their ability to

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Speaker 1: score points? Oh, a big role, and I think that

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Speaker 1: that was critical in their ability to win the game.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, Steve, there's one thing I'd say

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Speaker 1: watching the Dolphins over the last couple of weeks, and

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Speaker 1: all credit to me goes to their head coach and

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Speaker 1: their coaching staff. This team plays pretty hard and particular

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Speaker 1: on defense, and I know Brian Flores, that's his background obviously,

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Speaker 1: but they don't have a lot of names we all

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Speaker 1: recognize on defense. As you know, I remember what we

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Speaker 1: talked about them the first time these two teams played.

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Speaker 1: I was totally honest with you and said, Hey, a

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Speaker 1: lot of these players I had a look up, and

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Speaker 1: believe me, I'd do a ton of college work. I

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Speaker 1: watched two hundred and fifty three hundred college players a

1139
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Speaker 1: year coming into the NFL draft, and some of these

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Speaker 1: guys on the Dolphins I didn't even know. But this

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Speaker 1: team is playing hard. They played with some physical toughness,

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Speaker 1: So you have to give a ton of credit to

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Speaker 1: that staff. Great co seller guests, executive producer analysts of

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Speaker 1: NFL matchup on ESPN. We're talking about the Bill match

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Speaker 1: up with the Dolphins. I want to ask you a

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Speaker 1: couple of Bills questions here, Greg. I heard Sean McDermott

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Speaker 1: talk about the Buffalo's top receiver John Brown earlier this week.

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Speaker 1: Brown with forty seven catches, two touchdown, six d eighty yards,

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Speaker 1: and he mentioned how Brown has sort of evolved into

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Speaker 1: a more complete receiver than he was when he came

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Speaker 1: into the league with Arizona a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: That's why he was attractive to the Bills in the

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Speaker 1: first agent market. Do you see that as well? What

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Speaker 1: do you see from John Brown? Absolutely? I think John

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Speaker 1: Brown does a much better job now running intermediate routes.

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Speaker 1: I think he has a much better feel for how

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Speaker 1: to set up corners when he runs those kinds of routes,

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Speaker 1: how to use his body, how to use his feet

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Speaker 1: as indicators, and Steve knows exactly what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: At the top of your stem. You want to give

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Speaker 1: your quarterback a sense of when to throw the ball

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Speaker 1: because a lot of throws are timing throws and spot throws,

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Speaker 1: and you need to keep your quarterback and indicator. So

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Speaker 1: I think he's greatly improved in that area, and he

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Speaker 1: can still run. So I think you're looking at a

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Speaker 1: receiver that's definitely improved during the course of this season.

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Speaker 1: What's some thing that you would look for, and if

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Speaker 1: you could generalize, what's something the Bills could do better

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Speaker 1: that would have an exponential effect on their ability to

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Speaker 1: score points. Is there a magic elixir or just one

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Speaker 1: thing aspect of their offense that could change that could be,

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Speaker 1: you know, a bigger help than you would maybe think

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Speaker 1: at first glance. Yeah, it's a great question, because you know,

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Speaker 1: when when I finished watching the tape this week, I

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Speaker 1: kind of felt that that Allan threw the ball pretty

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Speaker 1: well this week. You know, he always misses a couple.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he missed that fourth down and maybe in

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Speaker 1: their first possession or second possession, a throw you can't miss.

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Speaker 1: And the one issue that I think really stands out

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Speaker 1: with Josh Allen and and maybe this it certainly impacts

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Speaker 1: their ability to put up more points, is they don't

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Speaker 1: hit any deep balls. I don't know the numbers, and

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Speaker 1: maybe you guys do because you're specific to Buffalo obviously,

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Speaker 1: but I would bet that Josh is deep ball throwing.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm talking about down in the field, not

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Speaker 1: intermediate routes, but deep ball throws that his numbers are

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Speaker 1: bad at. And he's missed guys this year with overthrows

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Speaker 1: that have been open, and obviously, if you can hit

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Speaker 1: some of those plays, you increase your ability to score points.

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Speaker 1: Some of those plays would have been touchdowns. And I

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Speaker 1: think this is a team that's trying to orchestrate big

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Speaker 1: play opportunities, which I think Brian Dabble does day Ball

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Speaker 1: does pretty well, and on first down in particular, with

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Speaker 1: pass game concepts that are intermedia and vertical based, and

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Speaker 1: when Josh tries to go over the top, he doesn't

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Speaker 1: hit those. He hits the intermediate ones pretty well, but

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Speaker 1: he doesn't hit the ones over the top. Hey, Greg

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Speaker 1: gud Sean McDermot apparently set his team down Wednesday and

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Speaker 1: they came to work this week and talked about, you know,

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Speaker 1: playing a little bit freer, playing without fear, and I

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Speaker 1: wondered your thoughts. Do you see Josh Allen playing with

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Speaker 1: fear may be afraid to put it in harm's way

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Speaker 1: the ball and because he has cut down on turnovers,

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Speaker 1: but maybe not. As you said, he's not hitting the

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Speaker 1: deep passes and maybe there's more. He's just not trying

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Speaker 1: to fit the ball in tight spaces because he doesn't

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Speaker 1: want to turn it turn it over thing. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You know, again, that's a fine line. Look, Sean McDermott

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Speaker 1: knows his team way better than I do, so I

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Speaker 1: can't speak to that specifically, but I will tell you this,

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Speaker 1: there's a very fine line on a team like this

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Speaker 1: that's not likely to put up thirty five points on

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Speaker 1: a weekly basis, obviously, between not turning it over and

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Speaker 1: then being free and turning it loose, because the last

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Speaker 1: thing you want is to start turning the ball over

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Speaker 1: and then you really lose any opportunity to win. There

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Speaker 1: with Josh Allen every day. Josh is a big arm kid.

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Speaker 1: I thought this week, believe it or not, I thought

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Speaker 1: he made more throws with better balance in a firmer base.

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Speaker 1: And I kind of like the way he threw the

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Speaker 1: ball this week, and I'm hoping that carries forward. And

1222
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Speaker 1: I think if that carries forward, he's less likely to

1223
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Speaker 1: miss some of those routine throws that he seems to

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Speaker 1: miss a few of every single week. But the other

1225
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Speaker 1: thing you don't want with him. It's easy to say,

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Speaker 1: let's be free and go out and just kind of play,

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Speaker 1: but he also has a couple of throws every game,

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Speaker 1: as you guys know, where he leaves the pocket and

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Speaker 1: then tries to make a play. Now, is he capable

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Speaker 1: of doing that, Yes he is, But there's a balance

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Speaker 1: between doing that and then throwing an interception on the

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Speaker 1: other side of the ball. Bill's defense in this last

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Speaker 1: month has started to show some signs of struggling to

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Speaker 1: stop the run. You see anything generally that you can

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Speaker 1: talk about that gives us any ideas why that has

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Speaker 1: happened all of a sudden. Well, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: one area and we've noticed this, and I'm sure you

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Speaker 1: guys have noticed this as well. I think you've seen

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Speaker 1: at Oliver as his snap counts have really decreased over

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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. And he struggled all season

1241
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Speaker 1: long in the run game. And he's a three technique

1242
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 1: and that's a critical position to defend the run. So

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Speaker 1: they've cut down on his snaps. I think they've recognized

1244
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Speaker 1: that he struggled a bit as a rookie, and I'm

1245
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Speaker 1: not sure how they see him going forward, but now

1246
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: they've they've limited his snaps. They've signed Corey Legit, so

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Speaker 1: they're looking for other players. They're trying to get better

1248
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Speaker 1: against the run with talent because I think defensively, they

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Speaker 1: pretty much play a certain way defensively, and I don't

1250
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Speaker 1: think that'll change dramatically, but they need some their players

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Speaker 1: to probably produce more and play better around the line.

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Speaker 1: With Greg Cosal, he is senior producer, NFL Films, executive

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Speaker 1: producer analysts of NFL Matchup coming up this weekend on ESPN,

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Speaker 1: I mean moving around the league a little bit, Greg,

1255
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Speaker 1: and we started out talking about the Browns and the

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Speaker 1: fight last night, A fight that overshadowed the fact, I

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Speaker 1: think and continues to overshadow the fact that the Browns

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Speaker 1: are playing better. They won two in a row. They've

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Speaker 1: inserted themselves at least into the playoff conversation. What's gone

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Speaker 1: well for them the last couple of weeks. Well, I

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Speaker 1: think their defense has played pretty well. I mean, you'll

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Speaker 1: look at last night, You'll look at the game against

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Speaker 1: you guys on Sunday. I think their defense has kept

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Speaker 1: games together a little more. You know, I haven't had

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Speaker 1: a chance to look through the tape obviously from last

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Speaker 1: night yet, but I think that Baker Mayfield against the

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Speaker 1: Bills through the ball pretty well. They're still struggling to

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Speaker 1: score a bit because they've struggled with situational football, third

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Speaker 1: down in red zone. Against the Bills, the red zone

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Speaker 1: was clearly the problem, but I think Mayfield has been

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Speaker 1: throwing the ball pretty well. Nick Chubb has sort of

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Speaker 1: become a feature. Like I said, I didn't really see

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Speaker 1: what they did last night, so I don't know the

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Speaker 1: answer to this. But against you guys, they really started

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Speaker 1: to play Chubb and Hunt together a lot of snaps,

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Speaker 1: particularly in the second half. So I don't, like I said,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they did last night, but that

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Speaker 1: presents an interesting scenario for defenses in particulars as to

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Speaker 1: how they want to handle that. So I think there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of positive things as they go forward, as

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Speaker 1: long as their defense can keep playing well. But obviously

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Speaker 1: they lose a great player and Garrett, so I will

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Speaker 1: see how that goes one way. And I want to

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Speaker 1: get you back to the Bills a little bit and

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Speaker 1: the way teams attack the Bills. You mentioned the Browns

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Speaker 1: did it with two running backs. The Eagles started it,

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Speaker 1: I think about a month ago. What is it about

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Speaker 1: the two running backs lined up in the shotgun with

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Speaker 1: the quarterback that makes it difficult for the Bills to defend?

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Speaker 1: Do you see any trend there developing? You know, I wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: It's funny you say, because I don't think the Bills

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Speaker 1: had a struggle to defend that. I was just thinking

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Speaker 1: more in terms of the Browns. I mean, the Bills

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Speaker 1: did not have a bad defensive performance. Look that final drive,

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Speaker 1: that the Landry play was just a great individual play.

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Speaker 1: It was a little flukey, it was a great individual play.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think the Bills defense played poorly against

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Speaker 1: the Browns. There were a couple of running plays obviously

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Speaker 1: that I'm sure they'd like to have back by Chubb

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Speaker 1: where he gained some big yards, but they kept him

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Speaker 1: out of the end zone for the most part. So

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't view that as a bad performance

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Speaker 1: by the Bills defense. To me, the Bills need to

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Speaker 1: score more points. It's very tough to win games on

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Speaker 1: a weekly basis thirteen ten or seventeen thirteen. That's just

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Speaker 1: a hard way to play and to really be a

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Speaker 1: really good team. Yeah, I agree with you. I was

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Speaker 1: going to take you around the league a little bit

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Speaker 1: more too. One of the most intriguing matchups this week

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Speaker 1: is going to be Baltimore Ravens and the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and Deshaun Watson. Those are two guys that

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Speaker 1: have really carried their off offenses, and I think, do

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Speaker 1: you think this is going to be the kind of

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Speaker 1: shootout that people anticipated being last time these two guys

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Speaker 1: met was in college and it was a fun game

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Speaker 1: to watch. Will we get to remember it? Will get

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Speaker 1: will we get a repeat of that? Well? You know,

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Speaker 1: it's funny. I've been given a lot of thought to

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Speaker 1: this Ravens offense, and to me, they're really fascinating because

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Speaker 1: it's a low risk offense but an incredibly hard to

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Speaker 1: defend offense, which normally those two things don't go together.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this, they play a lot out of

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Speaker 1: multiple tight end sets, whether it's two tight ends and

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Speaker 1: three tight ends, And what most teams do in response

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Speaker 1: to that is they line up with their base defense,

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Speaker 1: which means they have more bigger, slower people on the

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Speaker 1: field than smaller, faster people. And I just keep thinking

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Speaker 1: maybe it's better, and coaches no more than I do see,

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Speaker 1: but maybe it's better to defend the concepts and the

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Speaker 1: speed rather than the personnel. So even if they line

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Speaker 1: up with two or three tight ends, maybe it makes

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Speaker 1: more sense to put smaller, faster people on the field

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Speaker 1: because that gives you a better chance to defend the perimeter,

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Speaker 1: which is where they do a lot of their damage

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Speaker 1: with Jackson Greg. One of the more interesting games this

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Speaker 1: weekend features a couple of recent Super Bowl winners, the

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Speaker 1: Patriots and Eagles, playing the late Sunday afternoon. That's got

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Speaker 1: to be one of your future games, I would think.

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Speaker 1: On Matchups Show this week right it is. We did

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Speaker 1: a full segment on that game and a full segment

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Speaker 1: on the Texans Ravens game, and a couple of the

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Speaker 1: things I thought about with that game as well was

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Speaker 1: the way Bill Belichick approaches different offenses. And I think

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Speaker 1: he'll look at the Eagles offense and think there's two

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Speaker 1: players in given situations. Of course, nothing's on every play,

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Speaker 1: but in given situations that he has to be concerned

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01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 1: about Zach Ertz and Miles Sanders as a receiver of

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Speaker 1: the back, and I think you'll see him do multiple

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01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: things with Arts. I think he'll double him at times.

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Speaker 1: I think he'll put J. C. Jackson the big corner

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Speaker 1: on him at times man to man, as he did

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Speaker 1: with jack versus Travis Kelsey a year ago in the

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Speaker 1: ASC Championship game. And I think with Sanders, when he's

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Speaker 1: offset in the backfield, which is where he normally lines up,

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Speaker 1: I think you'll see him do some things, maybe the

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Speaker 1: bulls eye technique where he takes the outside edge rusher

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Speaker 1: and just has him run at Sanders just to prevent

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Speaker 1: him from getting cleanly into routes. So I think my

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Speaker 1: bottom line point is I think what Bill will do

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Speaker 1: is look at those two players, urchin Sanders as the

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Speaker 1: players he needs to take away in those critical situations.

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Speaker 1: One thing I wanted to ask you about while we

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Speaker 1: still have a minute here for a scouting report. A

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Speaker 1: few years ago, we a quarterback was playing in the

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Speaker 1: league who hasn't played in three years, and he's going

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Speaker 1: to get a big workout in the Atlanta this weekend.

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Speaker 1: What do you remember about the way Colin Kaepernick played

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Speaker 1: for the forty nine ers at the end before he

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Speaker 1: before he walked off of his opted out of that contract,

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Speaker 1: And what do you think they're gonna find in him

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Speaker 1: in this workout in Atlanta. I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: can answer that question, but what do you expect? What

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Speaker 1: kind of quarterback was he and what do you expect?

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Speaker 1: I think as he played more and teams became better

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Speaker 1: equipped to handle some of the run game elements. And

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01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 1: now those elements have expanded, so some might say, hey,

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01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 1: if he played now, there'd be more expansive run game elements.

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01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: But back then, teams started to get a much better

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01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 1: feel for his own read concept, and that wasn't as effective.

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01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:20,719
Speaker 1: And I think some of his limitations as a passer

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01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:25,440
Speaker 1: started to show up. He throws the ball with great velocity,

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01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 1: not a lot of touch. He didn't see things particularly

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01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: well and he was not overly accurate. He was not

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01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,600
Speaker 1: a quarterback that was a turn at loose guy, so

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01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 1: the numbers always look good. He wouldn't throw a lot

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01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 1: of picks because he didn't really turn and loose. He'd

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01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 1: run instead, and sometimes he'd make great runs and other

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01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 1: times he wouldn't. But I certainly don't know where he

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01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 1: is right now. I know he's thirty two years old,

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01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 1: so it's very hard to know exactly where he is.

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01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,680
Speaker 1: But as a passer, he had some limitations, but he

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01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 1: was a straight line, explosive athlete. I think somebody will

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Speaker 1: sign him great. I do. As a matter of fact.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who, but I think somebody will. Okay, hey, Greg,

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Speaker 1: thanks for this. Good to talk with you. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: again next Friday. All right, guys, appreciate it. Thanks all right? Greg.

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Speaker 1: Greg go sala is executive producer and analyst of NFL

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01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 1: Matchup the Show on ESPN. You can catch it tomorrow

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Speaker 1: seven am on ESPN two. You can catch it Sunday

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Speaker 1: on ESPN at four am and a thirty or six

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Speaker 1: thirty am. Rather senior producer at the NFL Films and

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Speaker 1: thoughts on what Greg had to say, sty No he's

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01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 1: always right on the money. I think it's right. There's

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01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 1: no election. But he said something that you know, it's

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01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 1: funny too, because it's nice to have a guy who

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01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 1: studies it with his passionate eye. Echo what we talk

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Speaker 1: about here on the show are callers and you and

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01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: me and everybody. It'd be great if the Bills hit

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01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 1: some deep balls. Yeah, you know, And that was he said,

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Speaker 1: the one thing that we might have an exponential effect

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Speaker 1: on everything else they do. If they scared you with

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Speaker 1: the deep ball, things might loosen up and upfront. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's interesting to hear another I say that.

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Speaker 1: You know what else he said that echoes what we

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Speaker 1: say a lot is there's really nothing major wrung with

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo defense. It's really not right. I mean, you

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01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,719
Speaker 1: can point to the run the game, you run yardage,

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01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 1: but that's not the issue. Guy. Yeah, maybe the corner

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01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 1: opposite Tredavious is getting picked on. Yeah, well okay, but

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01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:11,680
Speaker 1: there's not much wrong with it. You're right. They do

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01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 1: give up some yards in the run game, but they

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Speaker 1: don't give up points, right, And that's the bottom line.

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Speaker 1: We thank Greig for joining us. We'll be back again

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Speaker 1: next Friday. We're coming back after the break here. We're

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01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: going to talk to Andrew Brant about the business of

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01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 1: the NFL. You've got the talk about a new cb

1427
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: CBA in a seventeen game season. You got the Kaepernick workout.

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01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 1: But we'll start with Miles Garrett and the Browns Steelers

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01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 1: dust up last night. We'll see when Andrew Brant thinks

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Speaker 1: about that and the suspension that's coming up when we return.

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Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve Tasker One Bill's Lide presented by

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Speaker 1: Nothing comes closed. Welcome back One Bill's Live, John Murphy,

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01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:00,839
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, The Bills have come Plea. Did their practice

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01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 1: getting set for the Miami game on Sunday. We are

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01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 1: told that the head coach, Sean McDermott talked a little

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01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 1: bit about Jerry Hughes, who was in street clothes on

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01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 1: the sidelines today. Jerry Hughes, what do I see it?

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01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 1: He has a knee issue, a groin issue, That's what

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Speaker 1: it was. Let me go back to my notes here

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01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 1: before we move on any further. I will find it

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Speaker 1: he is a groin issue, and they don't know what

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01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 1: his staffs will be. We haven't seen a groin. He

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Speaker 1: was limited Thursday and did not practice today. All right,

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01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 1: we'll get more on that. We're gonna get more on

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01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 1: the fight last night, the Browns and the Pittsburgh Steelers,

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01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 1: and a lot of other issues going on in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: We have one of our best guests. He is the

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Speaker 1: MMQB week the columnists. He hosted the Business of Sports podcast.

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01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 1: Director of the Morad Center for Sports Law at Villanova University,

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01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 1: Andrew Brant on the line with us, Andrew, we do

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01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on on which I'm sure is a

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01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 1: busy day for you after last night's mayhem in Cleveland.

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01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,759
Speaker 1: Andrew Brand as well as and the league acted swiftly

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01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 1: right twelve hours after the incident, the suspension come out.

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01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 1: Why Why was a league hurry to get the punishment

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01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 1: out there so quickly? Yeah, I think this is something

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01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 1: John where you know, I don't. There aren't many Twitter

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01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 1: outrages that rival what's happened in the last twelve hours

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Speaker 1: since the game ended. I guess it was quite quite

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Speaker 1: a show. I think the social media outrage did influence

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Speaker 1: the speed in which the NFL acted, but Listen, this

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01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 1: is something where you know, we're without precedent. Maybe there

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01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 1: have been some helmet swingings going on, but not really

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01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:36,480
Speaker 1: at the head of a player, so we're an uncharted territory.

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Speaker 1: We had the Vante's perfect suspension owner this year, a

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Speaker 1: long one, but this is going to exceed that. So

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Speaker 1: I think they did the right thing and just saying hey,

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Speaker 1: it's indefinite, we'll let you know what the full extent is.

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01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: But he's not playing again this year. Yeah, and that's

1471
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 1: kind of a way to do it. I was going

1472
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 1: to ask if this is a moment where the NFL

1473
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 1: chooses to draw a big, fat line that nobody will

1474
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 1: ever cross again by making an example of Miles Garrett

1475
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:06,600
Speaker 1: maybe taking a full year of his career away or

1476
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 1: something of that nature. Because I don't want to make

1477
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 1: too much of this and get all philosophical, but you've

1478
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:18,719
Speaker 1: got the college ranks, watching high school youth football, parents

1479
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 1: of youth football players, watching how the league handles this

1480
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 1: and how much of a bump in the road it is,

1481
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 1: and I think it's an opportunity for the league maybe

1482
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 1: to steward the game a little bit. Yeah, I think

1483
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 1: about it. Steve how much how many eyes are on

1484
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 1: this because it was obviously the only game played. It

1485
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 1: was the Thursday night game, and I don't even know

1486
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 1: how many people were watching live because the game was,

1487
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 1: it was over. It was just garbage time. And now

1488
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 1: of course everyone sees it. So it wasn't in a

1489
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 1: one o'clock or four o'clock window on Sunday. It could

1490
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,600
Speaker 1: you know, could have been a little bit buried in that. So,

1491
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:59,600
Speaker 1: like you said, the focus was all on this, so

1492
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 1: they had to act, and they had to act with league.

1493
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 1: You know, as I tweeted out first thing this morning,

1494
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:10,560
Speaker 1: like to me, any any punishment is going to be

1495
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 1: met with yeah, sure, you know. I think if they

1496
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 1: banished him for life, there would be people's saying There'd

1497
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 1: be a handful saying that's too much, but there'd be

1498
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people saying, okay, good. So it's one

1499
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 1: of those where, because of the visceral reaction we have,

1500
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 1: any punishment is going to be met with, okay good.

1501
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 1: On the NFL Andrew, what goes on during this indefinite

1502
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 1: suspension period, I guess my question really is does the

1503
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 1: league wait and take the temperature of its fans, of

1504
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 1: its partners of its teams before they ultimately decide on

1505
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 1: a number of games out for Miles Garrett. Yeah, that's

1506
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 1: a great question, and I think that's what's going to

1507
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 1: happen here. I think again getting out in front of

1508
01:14:55,360 --> 01:15:00,679
Speaker 1: the outrage with the indefinite suspension at least this season.

1509
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 1: And they said playoffs, which seems like a far fetched

1510
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 1: thing for the Browns right now. But that's out there,

1511
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 1: so you're right, John, I don't think they addressed this

1512
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 1: again till I don't know, Mark April, you know, before

1513
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: the offseason workouts, maybe because I just think they let

1514
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,759
Speaker 1: it die and we're gonna move on to other things

1515
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 1: and playoffs and super Bowl and combine, and you know,

1516
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 1: it's going to be one of those where, oh yeah,

1517
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 1: what's left with Miles Garrett And by that time there

1518
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 1: won't be the outrage. So maybe they leave it at

1519
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 1: what it was. Maybe they add a couple more games.

1520
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 1: We'll see, and one more. We have one more question

1521
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:39,600
Speaker 1: on this issue, because there's a lot to get to

1522
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 1: with you, but there's suspensions for Garrett and Marquis Pouncing

1523
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 1: and Larry Ogan Joby. I guess you've tweeted out that

1524
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 1: you do not expect an appeal from any of them.

1525
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 1: Why why would they not appeal? You know, I don't

1526
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 1: I just saw the statement you know, that I tweeted

1527
01:15:56,680 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 1: about with Garrett. He did. He didn't say he's not

1528
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 1: going to appeal, but he said he accepted, he'd apologize

1529
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 1: all that stuff. It sounds like no appeal. I don't

1530
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 1: know about the other two. Um, you know, pouncing may

1531
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: have a case to get it from three to two

1532
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 1: or one game. But we'll see what goes on. You know,

1533
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 1: to me, Garrett's got a pr problem appealing, But for

1534
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:24,640
Speaker 1: any any other guys, like why not? No? What's the

1535
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 1: downside of appealing for them? Yeah? Yeah. One of the

1536
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:30,600
Speaker 1: other things that you talk about outrage that happened on

1537
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,680
Speaker 1: Twitter over this this fight. About three years ago, there

1538
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 1: was outrage about Colin Kaepernick, and now that's taken it.

1539
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 1: It's evolved into what we have now where there was

1540
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 1: a lawsuit has been settled out of court, and now

1541
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 1: the league has set up a special workout combine like

1542
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 1: for Colin Kaepernick. There's a lot of layers to that

1543
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 1: story as well. How do you think that's going to

1544
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 1: play out this weekend? Not to unpack here, Steve, I don't.

1545
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,680
Speaker 1: I've been around the league twenty five years as you have.

1546
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 1: I have never ever seeing a workout set up and

1547
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 1: staged by the league, And to me, that sets up

1548
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 1: a lot of problems. And one thing. As a lawyer,

1549
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 1: and the NFL's got lawyers, this is all precedent. So

1550
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: if I'm a player that's out of work, maybe I've

1551
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 1: been out of work a year Kaepernicks two years and

1552
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,839
Speaker 1: I had a good career or whatever, and I'm like, Okay,

1553
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 1: NFL do this for me, And of course they won't.

1554
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 1: So there's a backstory here. It almost seems like they're

1555
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 1: checking the box like you think it's us. No, it's

1556
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 1: not us, it's the team. The teams are not signing them.

1557
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 1: There's no direction from the league. We're all good, and

1558
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 1: that's why this thing, there's a whole backstory we're not

1559
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 1: hearing about, whether it's jay Z, whether it's some offshoot

1560
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 1: of the collusion settlement. I still don't really get it.

1561
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 1: You know, we can talk about the football side and

1562
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 1: who's gonna come watch him, but I just don't. This

1563
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:04,759
Speaker 1: one is shocking to me because they have every player

1564
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 1: who's been out of work has every right to ask

1565
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 1: for the same thing from the NFL. Is this do

1566
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 1: you think it's a little bit of show business on

1567
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 1: the NFL's part show business? I mean, I just think

1568
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 1: it's maybe some guilt, you know, swatging their guilt. I

1569
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:29,440
Speaker 1: just listen. It's teams that have workouts, the agents, agents

1570
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 1: set up workout. It's never the league. I mean that's

1571
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 1: you know, if you're pick a name, yeah you're Johnny

1572
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel exactly, Michael tim Tebow. I mean, why not them?

1573
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 1: Why l Owens and Dez Bryant would be great? They

1574
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 1: would kind of do this, that would Yeah, I get

1575
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 1: your it. The league is doing it for Colin Kaepernick.

1576
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 1: Why why not me? And and I get it. Is

1577
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 1: there somebody likely or there's somebody on your radar that

1578
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 1: you could see taking a shot at Colin Kaepernick sign him? Yeah,

1579
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 1: I'm saying no for this year. Maybe they come out

1580
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,639
Speaker 1: of this workout, and you know what futures contracts are.

1581
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,799
Speaker 1: So in January he signed, he shows up cross season workouts.

1582
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,599
Speaker 1: In April, he gets a full off season. But that's

1583
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 1: the other part of this, the timing. You know what

1584
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 1: they're going to bring him in with seven weeks left.

1585
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 1: I don't get it, you know, and if it's a

1586
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 1: bad team, the coaching staff may change. If it's a

1587
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 1: good team, they don't want to upset the Apple card

1588
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 1: what they're doing right now. You know. You hear teams

1589
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 1: like Baltimore, which runs a system that he'd be very prolific,

1590
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 1: and you would think not even attending maybe years like

1591
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 1: we hear eleven twelve teams. That's fine, but they won't

1592
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 1: be head coaches. They probably won't be gms because they're

1593
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:53,560
Speaker 1: on the road with their teams. Maybe it'll be scouts.

1594
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 1: But my answers no, And he could he signed in January, sure,

1595
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 1: but not now. Those eleven or twelve teams in your view,

1596
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 1: Andrew legitimate suitors. Are they legitimately interested in Kaepernick or

1597
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: are they getting their arms twisted by the league? Perhaps? Well,

1598
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:13,599
Speaker 1: my in this reaction is it's legitimate because they don't

1599
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 1: care what the league thinks they're gonna and that's why

1600
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 1: twenty teams are not going. I just think it's more like, yeah,

1601
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 1: we'll take a look at him. But then I think about,

1602
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 1: well they you know, this has been said before by

1603
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 1: a lot of people besides me. They've had three years

1604
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 1: to look at him, like, look, what are we doing here?

1605
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 1: They could bring him in on any Tuesday for the

1606
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 1: last three years. They know he can throw, they know

1607
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,600
Speaker 1: he can run, they know he's a good athlete. You know,

1608
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 1: they know he can hit a steam pattern. I just

1609
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 1: I still don't get one aspect of this, Andrew could

1610
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 1: be that because the League called this scout In this

1611
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 1: scout workout, it kind of alleviates the pr issues that

1612
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 1: there might be for one of these teams who is

1613
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 1: hesitant to look at Colin Kaepernick because of the backlash

1614
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 1: of his protests and all the things that have surrounded

1615
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,719
Speaker 1: him over the last three years. By having the league

1616
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 1: stamp this workout as something that the team should do,

1617
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 1: it makes it easier for the teams to go out

1618
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 1: and say, Okay, this is all washed away. Now we're

1619
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 1: going to take a look at this guy seriously and

1620
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 1: not have to answer all the media inquiries about why

1621
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 1: they don't or why they are or why they are not.

1622
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 1: Do you think there's the league putting their stamp on

1623
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 1: this kind of clears the way for the club's pr wise, Yeah,

1624
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 1: I do, But you know, all the sort of the

1625
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 1: drives and drives that have come out on this Steve,

1626
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 1: especially like on Tuesday or whatever day. It was like

1627
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 1: he had two hours to say yes, And you know,

1628
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,560
Speaker 1: now I get it. They want to use an NFL facility.

1629
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 1: The Falcons are on the road. But I just there's

1630
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 1: a lot to the that will come out. Start a

1631
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 1: little bit starts to come out about the jay Z

1632
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 1: relationship as a nod to that. You know, everyone wondered,

1633
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 1: I did too. Why I understand why the NFL wanted

1634
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 1: to get in bed with jay Z. He's cool, he

1635
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 1: represents the top artists, He's like incredible street cred. But

1636
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 1: I was always thinking, why does jay Z care about

1637
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:23,680
Speaker 1: being in bed with the NFL? Right? And maybe this

1638
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:25,560
Speaker 1: is part of it and are one more topic to

1639
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 1: get through with its Washington Post report earlier this week

1640
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 1: about possibly getting a new CBA before the Super Bowl

1641
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 1: next February, and the likelihood that that new deal will

1642
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 1: include a seventeen game regular season schedule and expanded playoffs

1643
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 1: a couple of years ahead. What do you know about

1644
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 1: the veracity of these reports and what do you think

1645
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 1: of what the compromise that appears to have been reached

1646
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 1: between the league and the players Association. Yeah, I said

1647
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 1: it with you guys last month. There's no way a

1648
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 1: CBA gets done without extra games because I saw the

1649
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 1: players with no leverage to get confessions unless they gave

1650
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 1: up more games. Now, that's how we were talking. Eighteen

1651
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 1: seventeen would be a nice compromise. We'd figure out the logistics,

1652
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 1: whether it's one international game for each team or whatever

1653
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:12,639
Speaker 1: it's going to be. But it makes sense. The question

1654
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 1: is what is the NFLPA getting for the extra game.

1655
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 1: That's probably what they're negotiating. Whether it's a revenue split,

1656
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 1: which I think is the most important thing to get

1657
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 1: from forty seven percent to forty eight ideally forty nine,

1658
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:31,640
Speaker 1: ideally fifty fifty fifty the way it was before. So

1659
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 1: that's really in play. You know, I think all the

1660
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:37,440
Speaker 1: other issues will wash away, whether it's franchise, tag, marijuana.

1661
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 1: They're really going to focus on how much money can

1662
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 1: we get for giving up an extra game, And to me,

1663
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 1: that's the essence in the negotiation. And yeah, unlike ten

1664
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 1: years ago, I'm pretty I'm pretty positive have a better

1665
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 1: outlook if this gets done. One last thing I want

1666
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:58,560
Speaker 1: to ask you about, Andrew, is the relationship between the

1667
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 1: medical staff of the teams and the players. We've seen

1668
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 1: a couple of things flare up. Obviously, the Trent Williams

1669
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 1: case in Washington is something you never liked to see

1670
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 1: where a player just doesn't trust the medical staff. And

1671
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 1: then the Quincy and Noon being unhappy that his fine

1672
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 1: was posted inside the building for the Jets when he

1673
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 1: missed a treatment appointment there in the building. Um, what

1674
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 1: do you think? How what's the current state of the

1675
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:24,600
Speaker 1: relationship between the medical staffs of these teams. I know

1676
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 1: it's different team to team, but how can that be

1677
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:31,760
Speaker 1: made better maybe in this next CBA or just in

1678
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 1: a general sense. Yeah, and I appreciate you bringing up

1679
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 1: to I can pump my article on Sports those Trade

1680
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 1: this week all about this exact issue with Trent Williams, Collecchis,

1681
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:47,759
Speaker 1: Tamila and now Annul. It's it's delicate, it's it's risky,

1682
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 1: and I think the basic point is we were just

1683
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:53,800
Speaker 1: talking about the union and management. I think, fueled by

1684
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 1: the union and fueled by agents and partly because of

1685
01:24:57,080 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 1: some real horror stories, the relationship between team medical and

1686
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 1: players is really hard. It's a bad one right now,

1687
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 1: and there's an inherent mistrust, and that's fueled by things like,

1688
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 1: well you just discuss where they're posting fines to a nunia.

1689
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 1: I don't know how to fix it. You know, I'm biased.

1690
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 1: In Green Bay we had a we had and they

1691
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 1: still have a team doctor, doctor Mackenzie, who actually holds

1692
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 1: players out longer than even they want to be held out.

1693
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 1: He's so conservative, and I think that's the right way

1694
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 1: to do it. But a lot of team doctors are

1695
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 1: under pressure to get guys back, and then you have

1696
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 1: the fights like we saw with the Jets and the Breadskins.

1697
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 1: I will say this when people ask me, tell me

1698
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 1: one thing we don't know about working for a team,

1699
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 1: my answer is the amount of time spent on medical.

1700
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 1: It is extraordinary for front office. People think we just

1701
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 1: work on players, scouting and coaching. I mean, it's medical.

1702
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 1: It dominates, and in league that has an one hundred

1703
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:02,520
Speaker 1: percent injury rate and all kinds of issues in roster management,

1704
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:06,640
Speaker 1: it's amazing how much you'd spend on that. So in

1705
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 1: some ways, the fact there only a few of these

1706
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:13,680
Speaker 1: cases that get out every year as disputes is really surprising.

1707
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 1: It sounds like a topic we can do in the

1708
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 1: future with you, Andrew, because it sounds like there's a

1709
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:20,680
Speaker 1: lot of area to explore there. We thank you for

1710
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:23,639
Speaker 1: your time this afternoon, and it's always great. Thanks very much,

1711
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: likewise good. Andrew Brant is the weekly columnist for the MMQB,

1712
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 1: host of the Business of Sports podcast, director of the

1713
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 1: more At Center for Sports Law at Villanova. The medical now,

1714
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 1: I'm sure that one. I'm when you played, but it

1715
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 1: seems like it's even more so of an issue now.

1716
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 1: Maybe it's because of advances in medicine. You know, there

1717
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 1: are more team doctors now than there were when you played,

1718
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:47,759
Speaker 1: and let's face it, better facilities to treat and diagnose

1719
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 1: medical conditions. That has to be a part of it.

1720
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 1: I would think there's more scrutiny as well to the

1721
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 1: medical staffs. The players have the wherewithal financially now because

1722
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 1: of the money's better to get a second opinion, fly

1723
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 1: down to another and get a second opinion. Uh. There's

1724
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:08,680
Speaker 1: more reason to make sure they're healthy because of you know,

1725
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:11,560
Speaker 1: the length of careers and and what's at stake with

1726
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 1: their own careers. Uh. And certainly, um, they have every

1727
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 1: right to do it, and that's there's an inherent conflict

1728
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 1: of interest for clubs who pay doctors to treat the

1729
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 1: players that work for them and the players who are

1730
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 1: and that it's that doctors at odds to get the

1731
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:34,760
Speaker 1: player on the field and the long term health repercussions

1732
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 1: of the players career and in life after the game.

1733
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 1: It's an interesting violence because to me, you know, as

1734
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 1: a player, there may be some problems later in life

1735
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 1: when you know you got orthopedic issues or brain issues,

1736
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:57,240
Speaker 1: or health issues or of a variety of of what

1737
01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 1: in a variety of ways, but you do want to play.

1738
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 1: But as Andrews said, there is one hundred percent injury probability,

1739
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 1: so you know you're gonna get hurt at some point,

1740
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 1: and how much you're gonna hold the club liable for

1741
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:12,680
Speaker 1: something you know may happen or risk you're willing to

1742
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 1: whisk happening because you're taking the money. So it's a

1743
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 1: really difficult dynamic at work, and it's and it's a difficult,

1744
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 1: it's really cloudy waters to navigate, both for the player

1745
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 1: and for the team and for the medical staff because

1746
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:32,560
Speaker 1: they're all, you know, trying to balance this risk that

1747
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 1: certainly at some level every player is willing to take

1748
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 1: and the medical staff saying, well, there's always a risk.

1749
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 1: So how much a risk are you telling me to

1750
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 1: let this guy take? You know. So it's a hard

1751
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 1: balance and it's I don't know that they'll ever get

1752
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:51,600
Speaker 1: it just right, but certainly they they're you know, the

1753
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 1: players are have some responsibility, the medical staff has some responsibility,

1754
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 1: that the club has some responsibility. Gotta breakcare. We're coming back.

1755
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 1: It is one Bill's life job. Murphy was Team Tasker.

1756
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,639
Speaker 1: We're coming to you from the Seneca Studio in Orchard Park,

1757
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bill's radio shows. Just flying by.

1758
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 1: Great segment from Andrew Brandt, great segment from Great co Sell,

1759
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:25,759
Speaker 1: Great questions from Steve Tasker for Great Cosell. Great Cosell

1760
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 1: told him that great great questions from John. Andrew said

1761
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 1: that to you, that's why you get on the show.

1762
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 1: Just tell us we ask good questions. We got a

1763
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 1: spot for you. Hey, what do you think? A couple

1764
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 1: of things on the table today. The suspensions are out right.

1765
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 1: You heard it by nol Miles. Garrett gets indefinite suspension

1766
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 1: from the NFL for his role in the brawl last

1767
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:49,679
Speaker 1: night in Cleveland. Indefinite, but for at least the rest

1768
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 1: of this season, regular season and the postseason plus a fine.

1769
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 1: Larry Ogan Joby, his Cleveland teammate, gets one game plus

1770
01:29:57,040 --> 01:30:00,840
Speaker 1: a fine. Marquise Pouncy, Steeler's offensive lineman, it's three games

1771
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 1: plus a fine. Jason Lacanfora reports that he thinks of

1772
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:07,080
Speaker 1: fine is coming to Mason Rudolph as well. What do

1773
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 1: you think about all of this? Your thoughts? Give us

1774
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 1: a call eight O three five fifty toll free one

1775
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty, or sending

1776
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:16,280
Speaker 1: a tweet. We'll get back to the tweet sheet. If

1777
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 1: you'd like to talk about the Bills, we're up for

1778
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 1: that too. The Bills and the Dolphins. What do you

1779
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 1: need to see from the Bills and the Miami Dolphins.

1780
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 1: I think we got a call here from Utica where

1781
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 1: Anthony wants to talk about both issues. Anthony, you go

1782
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 1: right to the front of the line. Let's see if

1783
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:32,680
Speaker 1: you can handle it. Two issues go Anthony. Oh are

1784
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:36,160
Speaker 1: you guys? We're good good. I love your show. Thank you, Steve.

1785
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 1: Love you first like to say that this, Garrett, I

1786
01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 1: thought nothing like this. I've been watching football forty three years.

1787
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 1: This was such an exci sick, and I think it's

1788
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 1: on the verge of you know, like Steve said, Okay,

1789
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 1: don't get this like a climb anything. But me, I

1790
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:58,760
Speaker 1: turned with it. This is like a crime sittering and

1791
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 1: all the things we did years go on football would

1792
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 1: talk to you to do to dislodge footballs from fevers

1793
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 1: and things not to cause damage to the person or whatnot.

1794
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 1: This was famous and it's terrible, Anthony. Let's talk about

1795
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:14,800
Speaker 1: that for a second. I know you got more points

1796
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:16,560
Speaker 1: to make, Okay, I don't know if you want to

1797
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:18,800
Speaker 1: go down the path of this is a crime though

1798
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 1: for this reason, in any NFL game, they're probably a

1799
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:24,800
Speaker 1: half dozen, maybe two, a dozen or more hits that

1800
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:28,080
Speaker 1: on the street would be a crime. And if you

1801
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 1: introduced the criminal element to last night's brawl, which was

1802
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:35,080
Speaker 1: terrible and now the league is acted on it pretty quickly,

1803
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 1: I think you're going down the wrong street. Any thoughts

1804
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 1: on that. Every tackle is a crime, right, every tackle?

1805
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:43,200
Speaker 1: It happens one hundred and fifty times a game. Every

1806
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:45,719
Speaker 1: time you pull somebody down to the ground against their will,

1807
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 1: it's a crime. So let's you know, let's pump the

1808
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 1: brakes on that. But go ahead, Anthony, what else you got, Okay?

1809
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:55,679
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the all signs for the Bills.

1810
01:31:57,160 --> 01:32:00,080
Speaker 1: A lot of people, you know, saying that josh On,

1811
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 1: you know, not hitting the deep ball as the cause

1812
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 1: of our offense and all this to be slow. I

1813
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:08,760
Speaker 1: think it's a play calling. I think we have very

1814
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 1: terrible play calling. A third three and you're throwing every

1815
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 1: shiver downfield for forty yards. The throwing bombs. You know

1816
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 1: you're not going to complete type of passes. Let's get

1817
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 1: the first downs, let's keep the change wrong. If you

1818
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,080
Speaker 1: look at the first three games of the year, we

1819
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 1: had a lot of short routes. We were throwing a

1820
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 1: lot of slants, deeps of hags, and all of a sudden,

1821
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:38,280
Speaker 1: everything's downfield throwing, Anthony, don't think that's the play calling.

1822
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 1: That's that's the quarterback trying to throw the ball down

1823
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:45,800
Speaker 1: the field. You never send five guys deep. There's always

1824
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 1: an outlet underneath. There's always a running back. There's always

1825
01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 1: and sometimes they don't even design it. Even though the

1826
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:53,599
Speaker 1: guy's going deep, he's supposed to take the top off

1827
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:55,840
Speaker 1: the defense to allow guys to catch it underneath. So

1828
01:32:56,320 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 1: don't don't pin the you know, the deep ball on

1829
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 1: the play calling, that's a decision by the quarterback and

1830
01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:08,479
Speaker 1: dictated by either the defense or by his own actions

1831
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 1: or the receivers or whatever. So don't think just because

1832
01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 1: there's a guy down the field deep that that's where

1833
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 1: the play was designed to go. But and I get it,

1834
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:21,880
Speaker 1: you know, they I thought that they were. You're right,

1835
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 1: they need to stay on the field offensively, they need

1836
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 1: to get first downs. There was a couple of times,

1837
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:27,880
Speaker 1: and there have been a couple of times in the

1838
01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks where they've been on a third

1839
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:32,240
Speaker 1: and two or third and four, a third and six

1840
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:36,519
Speaker 1: where they try to go deep when all they need

1841
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:38,600
Speaker 1: to do is stay on the field, and that's pretty frustrating.

1842
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:40,720
Speaker 1: So I agree with you. Find a way to stay

1843
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 1: on the field on third down, and a lot of

1844
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:44,920
Speaker 1: these other problems that you're talking about with the Bills

1845
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:46,600
Speaker 1: offense are going to take care of themselves, all right.

1846
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 1: We got Lorenzo Alexander coming by when we begin the

1847
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:50,840
Speaker 1: next segment. It's coming up right after the top of

1848
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:52,599
Speaker 1: the Hour of Break. Come on back with us One

1849
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:55,000
Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health. Coming here from the

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01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:58,599
Speaker 1: Seneca Studio at One Bill's Driving. This is Buffalo Bills

1851
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 1: Radio Bills Radio Network Sports Update. The update from One

1852
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:16,639
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive and the update comes from the NFL swift

1853
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 1: action on the brawl last night in Cleveland. The league

1854
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:23,720
Speaker 1: has decided to suspend Brown's defensive end Miles Garrett indefinitely

1855
01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:25,320
Speaker 1: for at least the rest of this season and the

1856
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:28,679
Speaker 1: postseason and find him as well. Also his teammate Larry

1857
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:31,519
Speaker 1: Ogan Jobie of the Browns gets a one game suspension

1858
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:34,920
Speaker 1: plus the fying Marquise Pouncy of the Steelers gets three

1859
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:37,280
Speaker 1: games plus the fine. And there are fines assessed to

1860
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:40,640
Speaker 1: both the Cleveland Browns and the Pittsburgh Steelers last night.

1861
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 1: Each team find two hundred and fifty thousand dollars all

1862
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:45,720
Speaker 1: because of that fight the last few seconds of last

1863
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 1: night's Thursday night game, the Pittsburgh Steelers losing in Cleveland,

1864
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:51,760
Speaker 1: and there was a fight, Helmets pulled off, helmets swung

1865
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 1: at each other, and additional discipline maybe forthcoming from the

1866
01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:58,680
Speaker 1: league through the standard accountability process. We'll talk more about that.

1867
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:01,439
Speaker 1: Bills have their this wrapped up here inside the ad

1868
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:04,960
Speaker 1: Pro Sports Training Center. They leave for Miami tomorrow. Bills

1869
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 1: have apparently sought the turnover issue they had. Now they

1870
01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:09,880
Speaker 1: got to get back to winning the turnovers under control.

1871
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:12,280
Speaker 1: They had ten in the first four games this season.

1872
01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:15,000
Speaker 1: Since then, October and November, last five games, Bills have

1873
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:17,719
Speaker 1: only turned it over twice, which is tied for fewest

1874
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:20,519
Speaker 1: in the league. Jerry Hughes not dressed for practice today.

1875
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:22,880
Speaker 1: He has a growing issue. It's been day to day.

1876
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:25,200
Speaker 1: Has been dealing with it all year, and it's expected

1877
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 1: that he will play. Gossa Knox returned to practice after

1878
01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:30,920
Speaker 1: not practicing yesterday, and the Dolphins expected to get safety

1879
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:33,640
Speaker 1: Rashad Jones back in the lineup a full participant the

1880
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 1: last couple of days. He hasn't played in a month

1881
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:37,800
Speaker 1: with the knee. The Bills and the Dolphins should be

1882
01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 1: partly sunny pleasants. Guys. Temperature in the mid seventies got

1883
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:43,000
Speaker 1: the call of the game on our flagship radio station,

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Speaker 1: wg OUR Sports Radio five fifty. I'll be with Eric

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Speaker 1: Wood in the broadcast booth and salth Capacho will be

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Speaker 1: on the sidelines. Eagles running back Darren Sprawls gonna miss

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Speaker 1: the remainder of the year, suffering a torn right hip

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Speaker 1: flexor muscle. According to the Eagles, injured back in early

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Speaker 1: October in a game against the Jets and maybe the

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Speaker 1: end of his NFL career. Colin Kaepernick's workout is tomorrow

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Thirteen NFL teams have committed to a ten

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Speaker 1: and the Savers back in action tomorrow night home against

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Speaker 1: the Ottawa Senators. That's the update from One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 1: It is the Lowdown with Lorenzo Alexander. We do it

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Speaker 1: every Friday at two pm. The Lowdown brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Hutch's Redefining City Dining, John Murphy's team Tasker and

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Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander Zoe in study with us. Hello, how are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great, been a good week of practice. Bat

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Speaker 1: a little congestion though, but other than that, you know,

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Speaker 1: everything is good. Ready to go? Is everybody coming today

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Speaker 1: and talk about last night's fight? Is that how the

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Speaker 1: day begins here? Early this morning? Players? Yeah, well, I

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Speaker 1: know I woke up to a couple of texts like

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Speaker 1: did you see what happened? My wife end up texting

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Speaker 1: me once I got to work, and I know it

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Speaker 1: was kind of like the talk within at breakfast in

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Speaker 1: the training room. So yeah, it was kind of the

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Speaker 1: topic of the day. Wait, I'm trying not to laugh.

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Speaker 1: Did your wife shake her finger and said, don't you

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Speaker 1: be doing that? Right? I know I would get a

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Speaker 1: text from from my mom or my wife would say

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Speaker 1: you if I ever do if I catch you doing that? Right?

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Speaker 1: And now she didn't say that, she just said did

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Speaker 1: you see it? But yeah, in the back she knows

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Speaker 1: I'm not that crazy. I'm crazy. And that's the thing

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Speaker 1: to you. You probably maybe not so much in your career,

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Speaker 1: but maybe early in your career, but you know, fights

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Speaker 1: like happened in training camp. That's me And I said

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Speaker 1: this earlier to show it's like one step beyond what

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Speaker 1: you usually see. You see guys who rap helmets off

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Speaker 1: and all that, but you never you the next step

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Speaker 1: is to swing it. It's it's one step beyond what

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Speaker 1: we're used to seeing. And it's interesting to see where

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Speaker 1: the league will draw the line and how big they

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Speaker 1: draw this line with what they do to Miles Garrett. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was crazy. I mean, obviously it was an egregious

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Speaker 1: act as far as having the helmet in his hand

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Speaker 1: and hitting Mason Rudolph. You know, you see the other

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Speaker 1: guys get fine. My whole thing, and the big thing

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Speaker 1: is is that Mason Rudolph didn't get any sort of

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Speaker 1: punishment yet either. I think everybody should be suspended and fined,

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Speaker 1: you know, because obviously he was on the ground pulling

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Speaker 1: his helmet off as well, actually got up and chased

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Speaker 1: after him. Then why he was on the ground actually

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Speaker 1: kicked him in his growing as well. So I think

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Speaker 1: everybody should be fined so that there's no like, well

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Speaker 1: he did that, he did that. Everybody should suffer some

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Speaker 1: type of consequence. Obviously Miles Garrett's which is way past

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Speaker 1: the line once he swung to hit him in the head.

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Speaker 1: There is a report out there that Rudolph will be fined.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if that comes about it, and the league

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Speaker 1: said their additional further discipline for other players forthcoming. I wonder,

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Speaker 1: and you play. It's a violent game round, so when

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Speaker 1: you've excelled at it for more than a decade, now,

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Speaker 1: how do you know when to stop? I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: playing hard, You're you're trying to hit people. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sick you're trying to hurt people, but you're trying to,

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Speaker 1: you know, inflict a punishment on ball carriers. Quarterbacks, receivers.

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Speaker 1: How do you find the line and say, well, nope,

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Speaker 1: can't do that. That's over the top. I don't know

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Speaker 1: about a grace of guy. Japens. It japens. Some times

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Speaker 1: it would have been great if some of his teammates

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Speaker 1: could have got to him before he actually swung to him,

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Speaker 1: but it's none of his teammates are in the picture

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Speaker 1: at all. So that's what sometimes save the guy, when

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Speaker 1: one of your teammates can kind of come at least

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Speaker 1: get in between you and the other guy, or has

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Speaker 1: holding you two or holding the other guy back. That

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Speaker 1: has saved me a couple of times. But that's really

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Speaker 1: only saving greats because you see nothing but red and

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Speaker 1: and it's you know, it's it's, you know, fight or flight.

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Speaker 1: And in most cases, guys are going to fight and

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Speaker 1: whatever they have in their hands or not in their hands,

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Speaker 1: that's what they're gonna swing. They really don't care. I've

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Speaker 1: I've was having this conversation with some of the guys

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Speaker 1: in the control room earlier today about what, you know,

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Speaker 1: some of the stuff I've seen in my career when

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Speaker 1: I came into the league back in the other century,

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Speaker 1: and when the lights switch goes in training campus. You're

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Speaker 1: going two to days, two to days two a little.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's exhausted and frustrated, and guys will start to get

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Speaker 1: really frustrated when they really suspect they may not make

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Speaker 1: the team. So there's that level of it, and I've

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Speaker 1: it turns into a cage match in a heartbeat. I

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Speaker 1: mean it a death match and unless you got guys

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Speaker 1: there to stop it, and they kind of everybody gets

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Speaker 1: in a group hug and everybody freezes him. You know,

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Speaker 1: they will let him pull anymore, they would it for

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Speaker 1: a minute, it's a death match. Yeah, until guys, until

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Speaker 1: everybody takes a deep breath and it's like, sorry, bro,

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Speaker 1: you know it really is that fast? That fast? Right? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: If he if he had like four or five lecture

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Speaker 1: seconds to kind of calm down before Mason got in there,

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Speaker 1: he probably wouldn't have done it. But he just it

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Speaker 1: happened so quick and none of his teammates were around,

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Speaker 1: just lost it and swarm and the lid comes up. Yeah, Steve,

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Speaker 1: run your scenario by Lorenzo if you would about here's

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Speaker 1: what I thought. It was a missed opportunity. And he

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Speaker 1: saw Freddie Kitchens and Mike, Mike Tomlin talking a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Maybe what was going on because everybody's out there. I

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Speaker 1: thought it was an interesting and what do you think

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Speaker 1: would have happened? Couldn't have happened when Freddie Kitchens talked

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Speaker 1: to Mike comm maybe after the game, in the post

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Speaker 1: game handshake or whatever. Say listen, Mike, I'm gonna bring

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Speaker 1: Miles to your locker room to apologize. Prepare your guys. Right,

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Speaker 1: that would have happened without incident. I think you're saying.

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Speaker 1: There wouldn't have been any suspensions or anything I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: It would have There wouldn't been a fight in the

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh locker room if Miles. If if Freddie Kitchens leads

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Speaker 1: his guy by the hand into Pittsburgh's locker room to

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Speaker 1: apologize and Mike prepares his guys for it, saying the guys,

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Speaker 1: who I want you to shut up and listen to

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Speaker 1: what he has to say, there would have been some tension.

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Speaker 1: It would have been a tension. They would have done

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Speaker 1: it out of out of respect Tomlin. They probably wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have done anything to him. In fact, it would have

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Speaker 1: diffused it a little bit if Myles would have done

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Speaker 1: held it the right way and said, hey, guys, there's

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Speaker 1: my bad. You know what I mean. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a missed opportunity by Freddy to diffuse the whole thing,

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Speaker 1: and it would have gone a long way towards Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but at that point, I mean, all the damage was done. Sure,

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Speaker 1: but I think it would have been a thing for me.

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Speaker 1: And I don't even know if Miles was Probably he

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Speaker 1: might not even been in the headspace to apologize at

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Speaker 1: that time. He might have still been hot about what

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Speaker 1: all that transpired on the field with Mason Rudolph escalating.

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Speaker 1: Then when he had time to get home think about it,

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Speaker 1: maybe watch it on film, you know, maybe he had

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Speaker 1: a little bit more time to kind of calm down,

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Speaker 1: because I mean, it was only five seconds left of

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Speaker 1: the game, so it wasn't that much time from getting

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Speaker 1: into the locker room after the incident. Right with Lorenzo Alexander,

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Speaker 1: Bills linebacker, and all of the incidents last night make

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Speaker 1: this news from yesterday even more important. I think, Lorenzo,

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Speaker 1: you are the Bills nominee one of thirty two player

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Speaker 1: nominees for the sixth annual Aren't Rooney Sportsmanship Award, presented

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Speaker 1: each year to an NFL player who best demonstrates the

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Speaker 1: qualities of on field sportsmanship, including fair play, respect for

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Speaker 1: the game and opponents, and integrity and competition. Congratulations for that, now,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you've been nominated for that before. Um, I believe,

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Speaker 1: so I believe last year as well. Yeah, okay, I

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Speaker 1: didn't know. Yeah, what does that mean to you? Especially

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Speaker 1: maybe in light of what happened last I mean, obviously

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Speaker 1: it's a real cool honor. I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I'll uphold that all the time, but I tried

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Speaker 1: to do it five percent of the time. But you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a real cool honor to be obviously acknowledged like

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Speaker 1: that just by the way I play the game, playing

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01:42:53,479 --> 01:42:55,720
Speaker 1: it hard right up against that line, the way the

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01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:58,720
Speaker 1: game is supposed to play, while doing it in a

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Speaker 1: way that is respect for and classy um to our opponents.

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Speaker 1: Is one of our teammates. Congratulations on that to be

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Speaker 1: on Yeah your your teammate now, Frank Gore wanted a

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01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:10,800
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Yeah, so it is big, And

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Speaker 1: I hope it's not just a saluted you know, a

2047
01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:15,960
Speaker 1: household named superstar, right. I hope they look around and

2048
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:17,880
Speaker 1: see who the real sportsman are Yeah. I think they

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01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 1: definitely do. Um. Yeah, and you know the guys around

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Speaker 1: the league they get notorized for it is awesome. The

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Speaker 1: NFL Honors Show Saturday, February first on Fox TV. Really

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Speaker 1: your regulations for that. Yeah, congratulations on that happening this week.

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Speaker 1: One other thing that did happen this week is word

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Speaker 1: got out that well by Josh Allen came out and

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Speaker 1: said coach had Chouan McDermot said, Hey, want you guys

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Speaker 1: to play fearless. Right, How did that play in the

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Speaker 1: locker room? What was the vibe coming out of that?

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Speaker 1: How did he deliver that message? Um? You know it

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Speaker 1: was really a because you know, I think it was Monday.

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Speaker 1: He came in and just talking to guys about everything

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Speaker 1: about what happened obviously in the game, and really coming

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Speaker 1: from a more of a positive feedback, encouragement, finding solutions

2063
01:43:56,680 --> 01:43:58,920
Speaker 1: versus pointing the things of what guys aren't doing. And

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01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:00,720
Speaker 1: it really came down of three things for us. It

2065
01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:03,759
Speaker 1: was about being more physical on the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 1: executing obviously whatever defense or offense, not having pre snap penalties,

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01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:11,519
Speaker 1: not having holding penalties or pass interference. And then at

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Speaker 1: the end of it, it was play with no conscious

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Speaker 1: or feelers as as we're saying, and it's really just

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01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 1: playing fast and free. You know. Obviously, through the week

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Speaker 1: you watch a lot of film, you get the game plan,

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Speaker 1: but when you go out on the field sometimes you

2073
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:29,920
Speaker 1: could think about or some guys, can you play not

2074
01:44:30,080 --> 01:44:32,559
Speaker 1: to make a mistake instead of playing to make a play.

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Speaker 1: And I think sometimes you can see this, especial when

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Speaker 1: things go bad. You can kind of see that and

2077
01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:38,800
Speaker 1: some young players at times, And so he just wanted

2078
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:41,080
Speaker 1: to reiterate. You know, obviously coaches are going to coach,

2079
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:42,559
Speaker 1: but sometimes you have to be able to block out

2080
01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:44,200
Speaker 1: that noise and just go out there and play free.

2081
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Speaker 1: And when you come to the sidem, I'm gonna make

2082
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Speaker 1: the corrections and and and just continue to try to

2083
01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:51,519
Speaker 1: improve and get better. We're not gonna argue for make

2084
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:53,920
Speaker 1: a mistakes because they happen in games. So he just

2085
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:56,439
Speaker 1: want to make sure guys aren't out there playing tight,

2086
01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:59,080
Speaker 1: because when you play tight, it leads to mistakes. Just

2087
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:02,200
Speaker 1: just buy by what your mindset is on. You're thinking

2088
01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:04,120
Speaker 1: about not making the mistake and you end up making

2089
01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:05,720
Speaker 1: it because you're not thinking about making the play. I

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01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:08,080
Speaker 1: asked coach McDermot in a conversation I had with him

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01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:10,280
Speaker 1: briefly at the end of this week about that, and

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01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:12,559
Speaker 1: he's and you know how why he felt the need

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Speaker 1: to do that, And he said, you know, the season

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01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:15,759
Speaker 1: is so long, and during the course of the season,

2095
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:18,880
Speaker 1: it's not like guys are making conscious decisions to worry

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01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:22,800
Speaker 1: about mistakes. But you know, the season changes. Every game changes, right,

2097
01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:25,240
Speaker 1: every everybody's approach to the game changes as you move

2098
01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:27,880
Speaker 1: through the law. Yeah, things happen, I mean good and bad,

2099
01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:29,200
Speaker 1: and sometimes you can get in the role we have

2100
01:45:29,280 --> 01:45:31,439
Speaker 1: this great confidence and you're just playing lights out, you're

2101
01:45:31,439 --> 01:45:35,080
Speaker 1: not thinking about anything. Or as a season happens adversity,

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01:45:35,479 --> 01:45:37,639
Speaker 1: it happens in everybody's season, whether it's in a game

2103
01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:40,880
Speaker 1: or throughout the entire season, where bad things happen and

2104
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:42,680
Speaker 1: you can't get out of the phone. You're trying to

2105
01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:44,800
Speaker 1: correct things and you're like, man, I'm just playing tight.

2106
01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:47,120
Speaker 1: Like for us with the run game now, everybody's very

2107
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:49,640
Speaker 1: stagnant and just sitting there, being in their gaps and

2108
01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:52,920
Speaker 1: not moving, not being playmakers, which is why you get

2109
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:54,800
Speaker 1: guys on your team to be playmakers, not just to

2110
01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:56,599
Speaker 1: sit anybody can sit there on the line and stay

2111
01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:59,160
Speaker 1: in their gap. But when that happens, you just don't

2112
01:45:59,200 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 1: play free and in flow. It's you know, it's kind

2113
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:03,800
Speaker 1: of hard to explain, but when you're playing loose, you

2114
01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:06,560
Speaker 1: just end up making plays downhill. You see things, you communicate,

2115
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:10,519
Speaker 1: and you're not worried about messing up your teammate. You're

2116
01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:12,799
Speaker 1: talkative teammate. Matt Milano on the show with us yesterday,

2117
01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:17,519
Speaker 1: But if we asked talking about the issues again last

2118
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:19,800
Speaker 1: four or five games now, he thinks it's big chunk

2119
01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 1: runs and not necessarily a constant barrage. Yeah, I would.

2120
01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:25,320
Speaker 1: I would agree with that. Um, when we've given up

2121
01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:28,080
Speaker 1: the run, it's been you know, twenty twenty five yarders

2122
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:30,639
Speaker 1: or big screens, big plays that just win. What happened

2123
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:34,559
Speaker 1: on that So they, I mean, they do, but it's different.

2124
01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:36,840
Speaker 1: For me, it's different. It feels a lot worse when

2125
01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:41,599
Speaker 1: a team methodically works their way down the field running four, five, six,

2126
01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:44,840
Speaker 1: seven versus a big chunk run or somebody missed the

2127
01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:47,360
Speaker 1: tackle or somebody was out of their gap on that

2128
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:49,760
Speaker 1: one play. But if it consistently happens, like back to

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01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 1: back to back plays, as they work down the field.

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01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:55,120
Speaker 1: That's you know, that's just the physicality, the way they

2131
01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:57,120
Speaker 1: donate the line of scrimmage. It feels worse as as

2132
01:46:57,120 --> 01:46:59,760
Speaker 1: a defender, so you're run defense. There's a couple of

2133
01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:01,880
Speaker 1: things about your defense. It continues to play extremely well

2134
01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:04,400
Speaker 1: even in the close lost last week to Cleveland. Your defense,

2135
01:47:04,560 --> 01:47:07,360
Speaker 1: run run defense. Okay, once in a while you get cash,

2136
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:10,920
Speaker 1: but you're the bottom line is you're tough to score on. Still.

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01:47:11,240 --> 01:47:12,560
Speaker 1: One of the things that I think could help you

2138
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:16,559
Speaker 1: and talk about how patient you had to be waiting

2139
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:18,639
Speaker 1: for turnovers to happen, to how you can make them happen.

2140
01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:20,880
Speaker 1: To be playing fearless maybe lead to more of those

2141
01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:23,000
Speaker 1: or possibly or is that and out of the mindset.

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01:47:23,240 --> 01:47:25,320
Speaker 1: And we had a couple of opportunities. You know, I

2143
01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:27,040
Speaker 1: had to play on the sideline. It would have been

2144
01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:29,400
Speaker 1: a probably a great intercesse, probably a top tener. But

2145
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:31,120
Speaker 1: you know, having when you have those opportunities to be

2146
01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:34,280
Speaker 1: able to catch the ball. Uh tre Davis and uh

2147
01:47:34,600 --> 01:47:37,439
Speaker 1: Mike um Jordan Poyer run into each other when we

2148
01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:39,560
Speaker 1: had an interception, you know, so we had our opportunities.

2149
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:42,880
Speaker 1: So just face mask, right because because because Jordan was

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01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:44,400
Speaker 1: breaking on the ball because it was two men had

2151
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:46,080
Speaker 1: a great breaking and it doesn't see him because he's

2152
01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:47,920
Speaker 1: zeroed on the ball. And so it's just taking advantage

2153
01:47:47,960 --> 01:47:50,720
Speaker 1: of the ones that we have. UM have the opportunity

2154
01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:53,000
Speaker 1: to get UM. But sometimes you can go too far

2155
01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 1: as far as affecting your tackling, like being the only

2156
01:47:55,880 --> 01:47:57,479
Speaker 1: guy there and you trying to strip the ball out

2157
01:47:57,520 --> 01:48:00,479
Speaker 1: while the guys continue to gather yack. So you have to,

2158
01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:02,759
Speaker 1: you know, be conscious about tackling if you're the second

2159
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:04,920
Speaker 1: or third man coming in. And I thought some guys

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01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:06,360
Speaker 1: did a great job of it last week and just

2161
01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:07,840
Speaker 1: trying to punch and trying to get it out and

2162
01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:10,080
Speaker 1: eventually they come they know I'm going to come in bunches.

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01:48:10,120 --> 01:48:11,920
Speaker 1: But you just have to be mindful of and I

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01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:13,920
Speaker 1: think guys are for the most part. With the Redzio

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01:48:13,960 --> 01:48:17,760
Speaker 1: Alexander Buffalo linebacker going to talk about his lowdown for

2166
01:48:17,840 --> 01:48:19,280
Speaker 1: the game and what he thinks the Bills need to

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01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:21,280
Speaker 1: do to win this game against Miami. But if you

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01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:24,360
Speaker 1: can just put your NFLPA cap on for a second

2169
01:48:24,400 --> 01:48:26,719
Speaker 1: here and talk to me about your thoughts of what's

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01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:29,720
Speaker 1: being called the you know, breakthrough in terms of negotiations

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01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:31,400
Speaker 1: for a new CBA. They think they might get it

2172
01:48:31,439 --> 01:48:33,519
Speaker 1: done by the Super Bowl, and they're talking about how

2173
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:35,759
Speaker 1: likely it is to have a seventeen game regular season.

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01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:37,680
Speaker 1: What do you think who's talking about that? It was

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01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:40,160
Speaker 1: reported in the watching Him posts this week by the

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01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:43,519
Speaker 1: NFLPA or the NFL probably the NFL. Okay, I don't.

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01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:45,040
Speaker 1: I don't know any I haven't been in the meeting.

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01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:47,960
Speaker 1: You know, I'm on an executive committee, so as far

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01:48:48,120 --> 01:48:50,320
Speaker 1: as that goes, you know, we're still making sure our

2180
01:48:50,360 --> 01:48:54,000
Speaker 1: guys are preparing for a work stoppage because talks won't

2181
01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:55,679
Speaker 1: be able to get picked up until after the season

2182
01:48:55,680 --> 01:48:57,439
Speaker 1: because all of I think the majority of our guys,

2183
01:48:57,520 --> 01:48:59,080
Speaker 1: if not all of them, are on the NFL rocks.

2184
01:48:59,120 --> 01:49:01,720
Speaker 1: I think two aren't. Right now, there's no time to meet,

2185
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:04,879
Speaker 1: so they they've met with you know, um our president

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01:49:05,160 --> 01:49:07,519
Speaker 1: and that's about it. You know, some talks here and there,

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01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:10,760
Speaker 1: but nothing to where it's closer being signed. You don't

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01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:12,760
Speaker 1: have any ideas on a seventeen game schedule. You don't

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01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:15,680
Speaker 1: want to talk about that, or do I have an idea? No,

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01:49:15,840 --> 01:49:18,000
Speaker 1: I don't. I think I've voiced that before. I mean,

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01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:21,000
Speaker 1: the game is already hard enough. Um, you know, you

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01:49:21,080 --> 01:49:25,720
Speaker 1: add another game, Um, that's more of an impact on

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01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:28,880
Speaker 1: my body, you know, moving forward and the younger guys bodies.

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01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:32,040
Speaker 1: I mean, so what other concessions are they making outside

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01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:34,920
Speaker 1: of that, you know, from a medical standpoint, from the

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01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:36,920
Speaker 1: way the split of the money's made up, you know,

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01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:39,240
Speaker 1: because they're investing in it. But at this point, the

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01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:41,880
Speaker 1: NFL is the NFL is going to grow, you know.

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01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:43,960
Speaker 1: It's it's about you know, the players out there that

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01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:47,200
Speaker 1: are actually making all that happen and why people are

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01:49:47,240 --> 01:49:49,320
Speaker 1: tuning in and why people want a seventeenth game. And

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01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:54,120
Speaker 1: so for me, it all comes back to hum equability,

2203
01:49:54,360 --> 01:49:57,240
Speaker 1: you know, everything being even, and that is going to

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01:49:57,280 --> 01:50:01,160
Speaker 1: be the fight. The fight you have to you have

2205
01:50:01,240 --> 01:50:03,240
Speaker 1: to have that mindset because in their mind, I mean,

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01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:05,280
Speaker 1: then they're gonna try to keep on what they have

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01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:09,840
Speaker 1: and we want more essentially because we feel like we

2208
01:50:09,960 --> 01:50:13,599
Speaker 1: bring half of the value, if not more of the value,

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01:50:14,360 --> 01:50:17,040
Speaker 1: because of what we do, right, I mean, we're we

2210
01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:20,320
Speaker 1: are what people come. Why people want to build new stadiums,

2211
01:50:20,360 --> 01:50:22,120
Speaker 1: why people pack it out, why people why all these

2212
01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:24,120
Speaker 1: TV dollars, why people want to have their eyes on it.

2213
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:26,360
Speaker 1: It's us at this point. I understand back in the

2214
01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:28,000
Speaker 1: day when people had to make an investment and they

2215
01:50:28,040 --> 01:50:29,560
Speaker 1: didn't quite know what the NFL is going to be.

2216
01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:31,720
Speaker 1: You know, the NFL is you got people knocking down

2217
01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:33,679
Speaker 1: the door trying to be owners, and they're not letting

2218
01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:35,640
Speaker 1: nobody in because they want to keep it tighten it.

2219
01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:38,920
Speaker 1: So don't try so don't try to food leave. You know,

2220
01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:40,760
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this, be real. Don't try to make

2221
01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:42,600
Speaker 1: it seem like you're doing all this hard work. No

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01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:44,760
Speaker 1: you're not. Then if it's running, NFL is easy. You

2223
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:46,400
Speaker 1: can throw a whole bunch of ideas out there and

2224
01:50:46,680 --> 01:50:48,760
Speaker 1: ninety percent I'm gonna make money because people love the

2225
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:51,080
Speaker 1: game of football. Because of the players are ready to go.

2226
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:56,400
Speaker 1: The negotiation can start tomorrow. We've been negotiating, but obviously

2227
01:50:56,439 --> 01:50:58,439
Speaker 1: before the season, but not in that sense. I think

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01:50:58,479 --> 01:51:00,880
Speaker 1: it's also on the doct this weekend. And that's probably

2229
01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:03,240
Speaker 1: off your guys, Rader, although you've probably had conversations in

2230
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:05,360
Speaker 1: the locker rooms all the guys. Colin Kaepernick's getting a

2231
01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:08,439
Speaker 1: workout with the NFL teams down in Atlanta. What's the

2232
01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:10,240
Speaker 1: what are the players thinking about that? At this point,

2233
01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:11,599
Speaker 1: I know you get in the middle of the season

2234
01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:13,519
Speaker 1: and lots going on. But certainly you guys have got

2235
01:51:13,560 --> 01:51:14,880
Speaker 1: a thought about it. But I don't know if there's

2236
01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:17,000
Speaker 1: been a huge conversation piece. I mean, obviously it's a

2237
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:19,160
Speaker 1: little unconventional and you look on Twitter and people under

2238
01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:21,120
Speaker 1: wondering why it's not on Tuesday. I think he thought

2239
01:51:21,160 --> 01:51:23,800
Speaker 1: it was going to be on the Tuesday. You know.

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01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:26,840
Speaker 1: For me, I'm like, you have an opportunity, whether it's

2241
01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:28,800
Speaker 1: ideal or not. Most of the time it's not ideal

2242
01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:30,360
Speaker 1: for most guys. I mean, I know we've had some

2243
01:51:30,439 --> 01:51:32,760
Speaker 1: workouts here on the Tuesday where guys are out there

2244
01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:35,040
Speaker 1: at seven am in the morning, eight am in the

2245
01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:36,760
Speaker 1: morning working out and they might have flown from the

2246
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:40,040
Speaker 1: West Coast. That's not ideal workout. So you have an opportunity.

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01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:43,600
Speaker 1: Hopefully all thirty two teams show up and give you

2248
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:47,600
Speaker 1: an opportunity to showcase your talent. But I can't, you know,

2249
01:51:47,680 --> 01:51:50,759
Speaker 1: I can't beggars, can't be choosing. So he has an opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully he shows up and has a great workout. Le

2251
01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:55,240
Speaker 1: gender with us for the lowdown. The bills in Miami

2252
01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:57,920
Speaker 1: coming up Sunday, your team beat the Dolphins by ten

2253
01:51:57,960 --> 01:52:00,360
Speaker 1: a month ago. Are they much different than they were

2254
01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:02,519
Speaker 1: a month ago? I know they won a couple of times. Yeah,

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01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:04,840
Speaker 1: I think they're a better team, you know, playing a

2256
01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:07,640
Speaker 1: little bit better football. From the standpoint of Fitches in

2257
01:52:07,720 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 1: there now, I think they have a guy obviously that

2258
01:52:11,360 --> 01:52:14,320
Speaker 1: is seasoned. When Rosen was there, just not quite sure

2259
01:52:14,360 --> 01:52:17,000
Speaker 1: who he was yet, young guy really hadn't played much football,

2260
01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:19,240
Speaker 1: and the game play was much different. Obviously, Fitz knows

2261
01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:21,160
Speaker 1: where he's going with the ball. He'll still give you

2262
01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:23,120
Speaker 1: a chance to you know, obviously intersected or get a

2263
01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:25,600
Speaker 1: stracks up fumble, just because how aggressive he is in

2264
01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:28,479
Speaker 1: his game playing. But guys, for whatever reason, and you

2265
01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:30,720
Speaker 1: probably saw it when you was here, they rally around him.

2266
01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:33,920
Speaker 1: Just the way he leads, the way he interacts with people.

2267
01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:36,080
Speaker 1: People play much better for him. And I think they

2268
01:52:36,160 --> 01:52:39,920
Speaker 1: have also some young guys now that have gotten seven,

2269
01:52:40,200 --> 01:52:43,320
Speaker 1: you know, eight games underneath their belt. You know a

2270
01:52:43,400 --> 01:52:45,320
Speaker 1: guy that I kind of know of, Patrick Blairs, the

2271
01:52:45,400 --> 01:52:47,280
Speaker 1: running back, young running back for their team, that's gonna

2272
01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:50,840
Speaker 1: probably play a little bit more offense. You know, he's

2273
01:52:50,880 --> 01:52:52,560
Speaker 1: gotten a lot better even on special teams. And I

2274
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:55,320
Speaker 1: think that is kind of like their motive from you know,

2275
01:52:55,760 --> 01:52:57,960
Speaker 1: every position group, all those young guys that got repped,

2276
01:52:57,960 --> 01:53:00,400
Speaker 1: they're getting better. They understand football now than no longer

2277
01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:04,080
Speaker 1: considered technically rookies. Inside that room, the cultures may be

2278
01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:05,800
Speaker 1: starting to set in a little bit and they found

2279
01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:07,839
Speaker 1: a way to win, and so definitely a confidence football

2280
01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:10,200
Speaker 1: team coming. Is there anything to the fact that they're

2281
01:53:10,280 --> 01:53:13,280
Speaker 1: passing the trade deadline nobody else is gonna move. I mean,

2282
01:53:13,280 --> 01:53:15,120
Speaker 1: they were trading guys all the way through that first

2283
01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:16,519
Speaker 1: part of the season, all the way up through and

2284
01:53:16,880 --> 01:53:19,559
Speaker 1: prominent players as well. There's got to be a little

2285
01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:21,240
Speaker 1: bit in their locker room where they're saying, okay, guy,

2286
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:23,479
Speaker 1: this is our guys, let's go together. And of course

2287
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:27,519
Speaker 1: fits pleas into that with his leadership. Um maybe, I mean,

2288
01:53:28,160 --> 01:53:29,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I think because a lot of the guys

2289
01:53:29,880 --> 01:53:32,559
Speaker 1: were obviously big name guys, that was a cultural shift thing.

2290
01:53:33,120 --> 01:53:35,400
Speaker 1: But still if you are a you know, fifty sixth

2291
01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:38,400
Speaker 1: round or young draft, I mean, those guys getting switched

2292
01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:40,840
Speaker 1: it in and out every week too. So I just

2293
01:53:40,960 --> 01:53:44,200
Speaker 1: think their coach is getting set, they're getting comfortable with

2294
01:53:44,360 --> 01:53:46,240
Speaker 1: what they're being asked to do, and they've had a

2295
01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:48,439
Speaker 1: lot of reps, and so a young team, I think

2296
01:53:48,520 --> 01:53:51,240
Speaker 1: as a season progresses normally gets better. And you saw

2297
01:53:51,320 --> 01:53:52,960
Speaker 1: this in like Cleveland a couple of years where they

2298
01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:55,479
Speaker 1: had like twenty two or something rookies playing a lot

2299
01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:58,200
Speaker 1: of reps as a season went on. Even though they

2300
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:00,639
Speaker 1: played tough and got better, even they made a show

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01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:02,960
Speaker 1: on the win column, they got bet as a season

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01:54:03,000 --> 01:54:04,360
Speaker 1: went on because they had more game reps. And I

2303
01:54:04,360 --> 01:54:06,200
Speaker 1: think that's why they're better football team. The blow down

2304
01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:08,200
Speaker 1: their keys to the game, Lorenzo's keys to the game.

2305
01:54:08,240 --> 01:54:10,080
Speaker 1: What do you got? It starts up front, I guess

2306
01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:13,320
Speaker 1: your keys. Yeah. Attacking the line of scrimmage, I think sometimes,

2307
01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:16,360
Speaker 1: and I think I kind of mentioned this earlier. Especially

2308
01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:19,400
Speaker 1: in the run game. You get so enhamored about, hey,

2309
01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:21,360
Speaker 1: stay in your gap, staying your gap to where you

2310
01:54:21,439 --> 01:54:23,760
Speaker 1: almost take one step and kind of sit at the

2311
01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:26,040
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage where we really want our defensive line

2312
01:54:26,040 --> 01:54:28,640
Speaker 1: to be attack oriented up the field and being disruptive.

2313
01:54:28,880 --> 01:54:30,760
Speaker 1: You know, I can think about Kyle Williams last year

2314
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:33,760
Speaker 1: when he was here playing the three technique. Sometimes he

2315
01:54:33,800 --> 01:54:36,720
Speaker 1: would get reached or scooped, but he was three or

2316
01:54:36,760 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 1: four yards in the backfield, making that running back either

2317
01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:41,960
Speaker 1: not being able to cut back or making him bubble.

2318
01:54:42,360 --> 01:54:45,120
Speaker 1: And I think when you're more disruptive, even if you

2319
01:54:45,200 --> 01:54:47,120
Speaker 1: may be out of your gap, because the linebackers can

2320
01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:48,960
Speaker 1: make the defensive lineman, right, I think that's a more

2321
01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:52,120
Speaker 1: productive way of playing football. And you've got to, yeah,

2322
01:54:52,160 --> 01:54:53,400
Speaker 1: you want to play on their side of the line

2323
01:54:53,440 --> 01:54:56,240
Speaker 1: of scrimmage on defense particular exactly because sometimes you set

2324
01:54:56,280 --> 01:54:58,280
Speaker 1: the line scrimmage them guys can knock you back. You're

2325
01:54:58,280 --> 01:55:00,320
Speaker 1: getting them in the in the linebackers way a little

2326
01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:02,080
Speaker 1: bit and they can't flow in and help you out.

2327
01:55:02,440 --> 01:55:04,240
Speaker 1: And so that's what it's all about, this playing attack.

2328
01:55:04,520 --> 01:55:07,080
Speaker 1: Be aggressive. That's the way football should be played on

2329
01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:08,400
Speaker 1: this side of the ball and on the other side

2330
01:55:08,440 --> 01:55:10,280
Speaker 1: of the ball. Of course for the offense, and Josh Allen,

2331
01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:12,680
Speaker 1: those guys you want to finish their drives with tds. Yeah,

2332
01:55:12,720 --> 01:55:15,240
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the more points we score, the better

2333
01:55:15,440 --> 01:55:17,920
Speaker 1: is for us allows defensively and for us to pin

2334
01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:20,600
Speaker 1: our ears back. Gets great confidence for the offense because

2335
01:55:20,600 --> 01:55:22,360
Speaker 1: I think we have the ability to do some good things.

2336
01:55:22,440 --> 01:55:25,280
Speaker 1: We move the ball oftentimes and stall for whatever reason

2337
01:55:25,320 --> 01:55:29,280
Speaker 1: when it's a presnapality or holding so just execution from

2338
01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:30,920
Speaker 1: start to finish to really be able to finish all

2339
01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:32,800
Speaker 1: some drives, put some points on the board as what

2340
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:34,480
Speaker 1: I know we can do because we have the talent

2341
01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:36,640
Speaker 1: out there, and that's just really going to help us

2342
01:55:36,680 --> 01:55:40,440
Speaker 1: stay off the field and create confidence. And obviously once

2343
01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:42,600
Speaker 1: state once, I don't think Miami is a team that's

2344
01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:46,320
Speaker 1: built to play from behind. Yeah, key number three, low

2345
01:55:46,360 --> 01:55:48,560
Speaker 1: down number three. You're talking about it. In the Cleveland game.

2346
01:55:48,640 --> 01:55:51,280
Speaker 1: You have chances for take you gotta make those right, Yeah,

2347
01:55:51,280 --> 01:55:54,080
Speaker 1: just take advantage of the opportunities. I think that's probably

2348
01:55:54,120 --> 01:55:56,480
Speaker 1: one of our biggest things right now that that we're

2349
01:55:56,560 --> 01:55:59,960
Speaker 1: missing out on, especially when we're playing in tight games,

2350
01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:02,760
Speaker 1: is changing the dynamic with some turnovers. Obviously had that

2351
01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:04,680
Speaker 1: big goal line stand, but it'd be great to be

2352
01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:07,440
Speaker 1: able to put some points on the board UM and

2353
01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:10,760
Speaker 1: give our offense UM an opportunity with a short field

2354
01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:12,600
Speaker 1: so they don't have to drive the ball eighty yards,

2355
01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:14,920
Speaker 1: they can maybe drive the ball forty yards and score touchdown.

2356
01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:16,560
Speaker 1: I'll definitely help as well in that category. Bring the

2357
01:56:16,600 --> 01:56:18,920
Speaker 1: gatorad right out here. You are concerned, and I'm sure

2358
01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:20,680
Speaker 1: the whole team is ready to be hydrated right for

2359
01:56:20,920 --> 01:56:23,680
Speaker 1: warmer temperature. Yeah, it's gonna be warmer, most definitely. I

2360
01:56:23,720 --> 01:56:25,680
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be like a fifty degree you know,

2361
01:56:25,800 --> 01:56:28,520
Speaker 1: swinging forwards, which I'll love. I mean, I'll be able

2362
01:56:28,520 --> 01:56:30,720
Speaker 1: to get out there, run around and so fresh. Yeah,

2363
01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:34,040
Speaker 1: not at all. I don't have to wear sweats and

2364
01:56:34,080 --> 01:56:35,760
Speaker 1: all that just to get a good sweat in before

2365
01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:37,680
Speaker 1: the game. I can get loose and be ready to

2366
01:56:37,720 --> 01:56:39,640
Speaker 1: fly around. So it's gonna be great for these old bones.

2367
01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:44,720
Speaker 1: Good luck than Rinze Alexander joining us for the Lowdown

2368
01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:47,160
Speaker 1: and has brought to you by Hutches. The Lowdown brought

2369
01:56:47,200 --> 01:56:49,680
Speaker 1: to you by Hutches, Redefining City Dining. Steve and I

2370
01:56:49,840 --> 01:56:52,760
Speaker 1: coming back One Bill's Life from the Seneca Studio on

2371
01:56:52,880 --> 01:57:08,760
Speaker 1: Archard Park on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to the show.

2372
01:57:08,800 --> 01:57:10,440
Speaker 1: It's been a busy show. It's been a good show,

2373
01:57:10,840 --> 01:57:15,200
Speaker 1: as good as Wednesday show. The show all the time. Now,

2374
01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:17,240
Speaker 1: Wednesday was a good show. We got a lot to

2375
01:57:17,280 --> 01:57:18,920
Speaker 1: talk about him. We've done it all day. We want

2376
01:57:18,920 --> 01:57:21,000
Speaker 1: to resume it and hear from you in the next

2377
01:57:21,040 --> 01:57:23,320
Speaker 1: couple of minutes. Here the minutes that remain in our show.

2378
01:57:23,680 --> 01:57:26,920
Speaker 1: A two pronged attack on the Twitter discussion topic today.

2379
01:57:27,840 --> 01:57:29,440
Speaker 1: First of all, we haven't talked much about this, and

2380
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:31,360
Speaker 1: I want to what do you think about the Bills

2381
01:57:31,440 --> 01:57:34,120
Speaker 1: Dolphins matchup? And in particular, what do you need to

2382
01:57:34,160 --> 01:57:36,920
Speaker 1: see from the Bills against the Miami Dolphins on Sunday.

2383
01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:38,880
Speaker 1: Give us a call on that. Eight oh three five

2384
01:57:38,960 --> 01:57:42,120
Speaker 1: fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two

2385
01:57:42,200 --> 01:57:45,480
Speaker 1: five fifty. Secondly, what's your reaction to the helmet swing

2386
01:57:45,600 --> 01:57:49,840
Speaker 1: the penalties imposed by the NFL. Miles Garrett gets an

2387
01:57:49,880 --> 01:57:52,360
Speaker 1: indefinite suspension, a couple of others get suspended. What do

2388
01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:54,640
Speaker 1: you think about all that? We'll take phone calls, We'll

2389
01:57:54,720 --> 01:57:57,680
Speaker 1: read tweets. Let's get back to phone calls for a second. Here,

2390
01:57:57,840 --> 01:57:59,080
Speaker 1: some of these folks have been waiting for a while.

2391
01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:02,400
Speaker 1: Greg and Lockport. He's still there. Great, I am still here.

2392
01:58:02,520 --> 01:58:05,160
Speaker 1: Thank you're sticking around. One thing? Do I get to

2393
01:58:05,280 --> 01:58:07,160
Speaker 1: enjoy the show while I'm on hold? So there we go.

2394
01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:10,040
Speaker 1: I got a couple of things. The question just asked.

2395
01:58:10,080 --> 01:58:11,680
Speaker 1: I just want to win against the Dolphins. I don't

2396
01:58:11,680 --> 01:58:13,560
Speaker 1: care whether it's ugly. I don't care whether it's seventeen

2397
01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:16,520
Speaker 1: sixteen thirty to nothing. I don't care. I want to win.

2398
01:58:16,920 --> 01:58:19,120
Speaker 1: That's what I have to say about that. Okay, Um,

2399
01:58:19,520 --> 01:58:22,040
Speaker 1: the Miles Garrett thing, what I've noticed is in this,

2400
01:58:22,240 --> 01:58:24,800
Speaker 1: in this day and age, I can get online and

2401
01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:27,920
Speaker 1: I can watch fifty podcasts. I can watch, you know,

2402
01:58:28,080 --> 01:58:30,560
Speaker 1: fifty people that are experts in the field. And what

2403
01:58:30,640 --> 01:58:34,520
Speaker 1: I really noticed watching maybe seven or eight different commentators,

2404
01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:38,120
Speaker 1: the ones that were former players and Steve Taster, falls

2405
01:58:38,160 --> 01:58:42,560
Speaker 1: into this uh this uh you know group, almost a

2406
01:58:42,680 --> 01:58:46,600
Speaker 1: controlled outrage. As they speak, Um, they're very upset to

2407
01:58:46,920 --> 01:58:50,640
Speaker 1: a man, everyone and I've heard at least three say

2408
01:58:50,760 --> 01:58:53,360
Speaker 1: if he wasn't in the league anymore, that that would

2409
01:58:53,360 --> 01:58:56,560
Speaker 1: be fine with them, that this was absolutely crossing the line.

2410
01:58:56,600 --> 01:59:00,360
Speaker 1: It's it's it's attempt to injure a fellow football player.

2411
01:59:00,520 --> 01:59:02,600
Speaker 1: And they talk to you know, almost to a man,

2412
01:59:02,680 --> 01:59:04,480
Speaker 1: they talk about the brotherhood in the NFL. When you

2413
01:59:04,560 --> 01:59:06,720
Speaker 1: play in the NFL, you know, when the whistle goes,

2414
01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:08,960
Speaker 1: you're you're you're trying to pound each other. But you know,

2415
01:59:09,040 --> 01:59:12,160
Speaker 1: outside of that controlled mayhem, they just can't have players

2416
01:59:12,200 --> 01:59:14,560
Speaker 1: out of control. You just can't have players out of

2417
01:59:14,600 --> 01:59:19,040
Speaker 1: control when they're six foot four, three hundred pounds in

2418
01:59:19,200 --> 01:59:21,800
Speaker 1: physical shape. So that's that's what I really took. I

2419
01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:25,360
Speaker 1: noticed the difference between the former players that spoke about

2420
01:59:25,400 --> 01:59:27,720
Speaker 1: this and the people that weren't in the league, and

2421
01:59:27,760 --> 01:59:31,120
Speaker 1: that includes you too, John Um. There's just a different

2422
01:59:31,160 --> 01:59:36,440
Speaker 1: tone of voice, different look on their face. Yeah, I guess.

2423
01:59:36,480 --> 01:59:38,320
Speaker 1: I mean players have a different view of it than

2424
01:59:38,360 --> 01:59:41,240
Speaker 1: everybody else does because they've been up close and maybe

2425
01:59:41,320 --> 01:59:44,240
Speaker 1: been involved with fights in practice or drink games or

2426
01:59:44,320 --> 01:59:47,520
Speaker 1: whatever what have you, so they do have firsthand experience

2427
01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:50,000
Speaker 1: with it. I think that the fight we saw last

2428
01:59:50,080 --> 01:59:54,000
Speaker 1: night was across the line for all of us, virtually everybody.

2429
01:59:54,120 --> 01:59:57,800
Speaker 1: And when it's across the line for everybody, the punishment,

2430
01:59:57,880 --> 01:59:59,840
Speaker 1: and because we've never really seen something like this hap

2431
02:00:00,120 --> 02:00:04,280
Speaker 1: and before, guys don't really care what the punishment is.

2432
02:00:04,320 --> 02:00:06,720
Speaker 1: The guy deserves whatever he gets, and it is up

2433
02:00:06,760 --> 02:00:10,840
Speaker 1: to the league to decide what that is. The League's

2434
02:00:10,840 --> 02:00:13,280
Speaker 1: gonna be fine with or without Miles Garrett. I don't

2435
02:00:13,360 --> 02:00:17,840
Speaker 1: expect him to be done, but certainly it's going to

2436
02:00:17,920 --> 02:00:19,920
Speaker 1: be a tough sentence for him to carry out. It's

2437
02:00:19,920 --> 02:00:21,640
Speaker 1: going to be a big suspension, a big fine, and

2438
02:00:21,680 --> 02:00:25,320
Speaker 1: all of that stuff. So whatever it's gonna be, then

2439
02:00:25,360 --> 02:00:27,440
Speaker 1: you'll hear opinions about whether it's good or bad, or

2440
02:00:27,720 --> 02:00:31,240
Speaker 1: enough or not enough or just right. So, but yeah,

2441
02:00:32,000 --> 02:00:36,760
Speaker 1: I think unanimously even the former players in this situation

2442
02:00:37,000 --> 02:00:39,120
Speaker 1: are all in favor of the same thing. The guy

2443
02:00:39,200 --> 02:00:40,960
Speaker 1: needs to be punished. It was out of line and

2444
02:00:41,120 --> 02:00:45,520
Speaker 1: across the line, across the line that shouldn't be crossed. Hey,

2445
02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:47,840
Speaker 1: we have injury reports now for both the Bills and

2446
02:00:47,960 --> 02:00:50,200
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. The Bills have one name on the injury

2447
02:00:50,280 --> 02:00:52,840
Speaker 1: report this week, and that's a big one. Defensive end

2448
02:00:52,880 --> 02:00:56,640
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes is questionable, limited work yesterday, did not practice

2449
02:00:56,680 --> 02:00:59,360
Speaker 1: today with a growing situation, and Jerry Hughes is questionable.

2450
02:00:59,600 --> 02:01:02,200
Speaker 1: Everybody else is up and ready to go, including tight

2451
02:01:02,280 --> 02:01:05,040
Speaker 1: end Dawson Knox, who did not practice yesterday with a

2452
02:01:05,080 --> 02:01:08,080
Speaker 1: sore knee, but he did go full speed today. The Dolphins,

2453
02:01:08,160 --> 02:01:11,200
Speaker 1: in your report, one player out. Cornerback Ken Webster is

2454
02:01:11,240 --> 02:01:15,320
Speaker 1: out for Miami, and they have four players questionable, including

2455
02:01:15,400 --> 02:01:19,320
Speaker 1: defensive end Taco Charlton with an elbow situation, safety Rashod

2456
02:01:19,400 --> 02:01:21,600
Speaker 1: Jones with a chest he's coming back from his injury,

2457
02:01:21,680 --> 02:01:24,440
Speaker 1: should be ready to go. Linebacker Raekwon McMillan with a

2458
02:01:24,520 --> 02:01:27,440
Speaker 1: knee defensive end Avery Jones with an ankle. You're caught

2459
02:01:27,520 --> 02:01:30,000
Speaker 1: up on the injuries for Sunday's game. Let's go to

2460
02:01:30,800 --> 02:01:33,160
Speaker 1: Kevin and Hamburg. Hello, Kevin, Welcome to the show. Guys,

2461
02:01:33,200 --> 02:01:35,040
Speaker 1: how are you doing? Thanks for taking my call. Sure,

2462
02:01:36,360 --> 02:01:38,360
Speaker 1: I know what you said saying you never saw about

2463
02:01:38,360 --> 02:01:40,800
Speaker 1: what happened last night, but I don't mind you of

2464
02:01:40,840 --> 02:01:43,440
Speaker 1: a guy nim milewaz EIGHTO. That's what that rule was

2465
02:01:43,560 --> 02:01:46,200
Speaker 1: named about. One time in the early eighties, and then

2466
02:01:46,240 --> 02:01:48,600
Speaker 1: he played for the Raiders. He did exactly that to

2467
02:01:48,680 --> 02:01:52,280
Speaker 1: another opponent when he was he was like a football

2468
02:01:52,320 --> 02:01:56,600
Speaker 1: almost to the point of psychopath. I mean, there's quite

2469
02:01:56,640 --> 02:01:58,800
Speaker 1: a few of them, but he did it to a

2470
02:01:58,880 --> 02:02:01,120
Speaker 1: guy and he actually, if you remember, they named the

2471
02:02:01,200 --> 02:02:03,880
Speaker 1: rule after that about taking off your helmet against the

2472
02:02:03,920 --> 02:02:06,960
Speaker 1: defensive guy who with no helmet any blasting him a

2473
02:02:07,040 --> 02:02:09,680
Speaker 1: couple of ones. And he was a total, total, like

2474
02:02:10,040 --> 02:02:12,080
Speaker 1: nut job. So I don't know if you knew that

2475
02:02:12,160 --> 02:02:15,200
Speaker 1: there was a rule because of him. Right? What else

2476
02:02:15,280 --> 02:02:19,640
Speaker 1: you got, Kevin? What's that? Yeah? We got you? What else?

2477
02:02:19,800 --> 02:02:23,280
Speaker 1: Anything else? I think the fine against Cleveland, money wise,

2478
02:02:23,360 --> 02:02:26,640
Speaker 1: should have been a little bit worse because Murphy, you

2479
02:02:26,720 --> 02:02:32,040
Speaker 1: alluded to some they've had some sneaker and fractions and

2480
02:02:32,320 --> 02:02:35,640
Speaker 1: watching fractions. And last night, of course was like a

2481
02:02:35,760 --> 02:02:38,800
Speaker 1: bad Sunday or a bad cherry on top of already

2482
02:02:38,840 --> 02:02:41,320
Speaker 1: a bad Sunday. So I think they should have money

2483
02:02:41,360 --> 02:02:44,520
Speaker 1: wise given it to him and thrown in last night.

2484
02:02:44,680 --> 02:02:48,200
Speaker 1: And uh, Murphy talked about the foot in the shoes

2485
02:02:48,320 --> 02:02:53,720
Speaker 1: and the headbands and watches and all they've been pulling. Yeah,

2486
02:02:53,840 --> 02:02:55,560
Speaker 1: I know the brown seam on this one, two and

2487
02:02:55,720 --> 02:03:00,720
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars is not inconsequential and more fines may coming. Why,

2488
02:03:01,000 --> 02:03:03,480
Speaker 1: But do you think the Steelers, Yeah, do you think

2489
02:03:03,520 --> 02:03:05,440
Speaker 1: the Steelers? You in between you and me? Do you

2490
02:03:05,480 --> 02:03:07,320
Speaker 1: think the Steelers find should have been exactly the same

2491
02:03:07,360 --> 02:03:09,760
Speaker 1: as the Browns? Yeah? They were. They were pretty bad too, Yeah,

2492
02:03:09,800 --> 02:03:11,320
Speaker 1: I do. It was out of control, It was out

2493
02:03:11,360 --> 02:03:13,120
Speaker 1: of the O and that. And he makes a good

2494
02:03:13,160 --> 02:03:18,080
Speaker 1: point the maybe the caller just before. You can't have

2495
02:03:18,200 --> 02:03:20,800
Speaker 1: guys out of control. Yeah, you can't have guys losing

2496
02:03:20,840 --> 02:03:23,880
Speaker 1: it and going out of control. And that's that's a

2497
02:03:24,360 --> 02:03:27,040
Speaker 1: line that you have to cross, you know, etching stone,

2498
02:03:27,200 --> 02:03:30,120
Speaker 1: chiseling stone, And that's that's what happened. As we said,

2499
02:03:30,160 --> 02:03:32,800
Speaker 1: there's a report out there that the quarterback Mason Rudolph

2500
02:03:33,240 --> 02:03:35,040
Speaker 1: is looking at a find that would not surprise me.

2501
02:03:35,200 --> 02:03:37,560
Speaker 1: He went for the helmet first, right, Yeah, and he

2502
02:03:37,680 --> 02:03:40,240
Speaker 1: kicked and he kicked Garrett as well while I were down,

2503
02:03:40,280 --> 02:03:43,320
Speaker 1: and which is should have been an ejection. Um, did

2504
02:03:43,360 --> 02:03:45,160
Speaker 1: he get ejected? He didn't, did he not? Yeah, he

2505
02:03:45,200 --> 02:03:47,480
Speaker 1: should have been. And uh, but I think because it

2506
02:03:47,560 --> 02:03:48,840
Speaker 1: was in a kind of a scrum and all that

2507
02:03:48,960 --> 02:03:50,600
Speaker 1: it kind of got went out because you have to

2508
02:03:50,680 --> 02:03:53,520
Speaker 1: really kind of watch the clips from certain angles to

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Speaker 1: see it actually happened too, So it's easy to see

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02:03:56,200 --> 02:03:58,240
Speaker 1: that was that was missed in all of everything else

2511
02:03:58,280 --> 02:04:00,400
Speaker 1: that was going on. But yeah, that'll be looked at

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02:04:00,880 --> 02:04:03,480
Speaker 1: and called into account as well, and maybe that'll be

2513
02:04:03,640 --> 02:04:06,720
Speaker 1: his suspension because of that, he'll get ejected from the

2514
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Speaker 1: next game. Let's go to d and dunk KERK. Hello, Ed,

2515
02:04:08,960 --> 02:04:15,080
Speaker 1: you're on the air. Hello John and Steve, Thanks for

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02:04:15,160 --> 02:04:18,160
Speaker 1: taking my call. I just wanted to say something about

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02:04:20,720 --> 02:04:23,640
Speaker 1: First of all, I'd like to say that the Bill's

2518
02:04:23,720 --> 02:04:27,200
Speaker 1: got to beat Miami this week and I wish him

2519
02:04:27,240 --> 02:04:31,160
Speaker 1: the best. And I don't have a whole lot to

2520
02:04:31,240 --> 02:04:34,040
Speaker 1: say about what I saw last night in the game.

2521
02:04:34,680 --> 02:04:39,160
Speaker 1: Although I don't I don't, it didn't go as far

2522
02:04:39,240 --> 02:04:41,080
Speaker 1: as to make me want to hang up the fall

2523
02:04:41,280 --> 02:04:46,720
Speaker 1: or turn off the TV. I have got something to

2524
02:04:46,800 --> 02:04:50,880
Speaker 1: say about the Colin Champernitz situation. Let's here, let's go

2525
02:04:51,680 --> 02:04:55,560
Speaker 1: as a as a veteran, that pretty much made me

2526
02:04:55,720 --> 02:04:57,960
Speaker 1: want to turn off the TV. As a matter of fact,

2527
02:04:58,120 --> 02:05:00,840
Speaker 1: what I did was I used to not turn on

2528
02:05:00,960 --> 02:05:03,200
Speaker 1: the game for fifteen minutes so I didn't have to

2529
02:05:03,320 --> 02:05:07,400
Speaker 1: watch that stuff. And a lot of us felt that way.

2530
02:05:09,080 --> 02:05:11,840
Speaker 1: I don't understand why they're dealing with it the way

2531
02:05:11,920 --> 02:05:15,800
Speaker 1: that they are, but the NFL does deal with situations

2532
02:05:15,960 --> 02:05:20,080
Speaker 1: like what happened last night, and they've dealt with the

2533
02:05:20,160 --> 02:05:28,400
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick situation. We've been a lot of veteran embellishment

2534
02:05:28,920 --> 02:05:33,040
Speaker 1: during the beginning of the games, which I do appreciate. Okay, yeah,

2535
02:05:33,080 --> 02:05:35,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the league has gone over this

2536
02:05:35,240 --> 02:05:37,920
Speaker 1: for years with Kaepernick, and this is the next step.

2537
02:05:38,280 --> 02:05:40,880
Speaker 1: I guess, like Andrew ran had a lot of interesting

2538
02:05:40,960 --> 02:05:43,200
Speaker 1: things to say about this eve with us, what was

2539
02:05:43,240 --> 02:05:45,400
Speaker 1: that last hour right around this time? Last hour and

2540
02:05:45,840 --> 02:05:48,560
Speaker 1: one thing? And you asked him, is it a side show?

2541
02:05:48,800 --> 02:05:51,440
Speaker 1: It is to me sort of an artificial thing to

2542
02:05:51,520 --> 02:05:53,720
Speaker 1: have this workout tomorrow. Right, You've got to think there's

2543
02:05:53,800 --> 02:05:56,400
Speaker 1: lawyers involved. If we do this, then we can argue

2544
02:05:56,440 --> 02:05:58,600
Speaker 1: this right. And I just have a hard time taking

2545
02:05:58,640 --> 02:06:01,800
Speaker 1: that seriously. Tomorrow, that workout, I just don't think, because

2546
02:06:02,000 --> 02:06:03,960
Speaker 1: you know, like Andrew Brain pointed out that they don't

2547
02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:05,879
Speaker 1: do that. They don't have lead think it's a lonswored

2548
02:06:05,920 --> 02:06:08,000
Speaker 1: workouts for players who went out. They don't do that.

2549
02:06:08,160 --> 02:06:09,680
Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit of an attempt by

2550
02:06:09,720 --> 02:06:13,240
Speaker 1: the league to put this to rest, like, Okay, here's

2551
02:06:13,360 --> 02:06:15,240
Speaker 1: here's work. We're gonna have everybody work him out. They

2552
02:06:15,280 --> 02:06:17,240
Speaker 1: can all come in and check him out. And now

2553
02:06:17,760 --> 02:06:19,640
Speaker 1: you can't say that nobody's even looked at him or

2554
02:06:19,680 --> 02:06:21,680
Speaker 1: giving him a chance. Now, all these teams that had

2555
02:06:21,680 --> 02:06:23,320
Speaker 1: an opportunity to do are going to get that chance.

2556
02:06:23,360 --> 02:06:25,080
Speaker 1: And I think that's one thing. And maybe it was

2557
02:06:25,160 --> 02:06:29,240
Speaker 1: an offshoot part of the negotiated end to his lawsuit

2558
02:06:29,280 --> 02:06:31,240
Speaker 1: of collision against the league. Maybe league said, okay, we'll

2559
02:06:31,280 --> 02:06:33,240
Speaker 1: set up the workout. You know, if you take this

2560
02:06:33,400 --> 02:06:35,920
Speaker 1: deal part of it, we'll be we're gonna set up

2561
02:06:35,960 --> 02:06:38,000
Speaker 1: a workout for you that nobody so you can't sit

2562
02:06:38,080 --> 02:06:40,680
Speaker 1: there and say, you know, we're never never had a

2563
02:06:40,760 --> 02:06:42,920
Speaker 1: chance collusion And they said, okay, I'll do it and

2564
02:06:43,000 --> 02:06:44,520
Speaker 1: take it. So maybe that was part of it. A

2565
02:06:44,560 --> 02:06:47,160
Speaker 1: couple of tweets on the question of the day. The

2566
02:06:47,240 --> 02:06:49,640
Speaker 1: second question of the day was about the Bills Dolphins.

2567
02:06:49,960 --> 02:06:51,320
Speaker 1: What do you need to see from the Bills and

2568
02:06:51,400 --> 02:06:54,600
Speaker 1: the Dolphins? The tweet sheet brought you by Corrigan Moving Systems,

2569
02:06:54,880 --> 02:06:56,680
Speaker 1: the official movers of the Buffalo Bills. What do you

2570
02:06:56,760 --> 02:06:59,960
Speaker 1: have on your tweet sheet? There? Stephen from the from Maxie.

2571
02:07:00,000 --> 02:07:01,400
Speaker 1: He says, I need to see the Bills click and

2572
02:07:01,520 --> 02:07:03,840
Speaker 1: score four or more touchdowns. Miami's a bad team and

2573
02:07:03,920 --> 02:07:06,440
Speaker 1: you should be able to score on them. Also, Jack says,

2574
02:07:06,440 --> 02:07:07,600
Speaker 1: as far as the Bills, I need to see a

2575
02:07:07,640 --> 02:07:10,400
Speaker 1: complete performance offense, defense, special teams. I want to see

2576
02:07:10,440 --> 02:07:13,320
Speaker 1: Alan take this, make the smart play and stay on

2577
02:07:13,400 --> 02:07:17,040
Speaker 1: the field. Also use single tarry against a bad run defense.

2578
02:07:17,400 --> 02:07:19,360
Speaker 1: I need our defense to get more pressure and force

2579
02:07:19,440 --> 02:07:22,560
Speaker 1: two plus turnovers. I need House getabouts back and make

2580
02:07:22,600 --> 02:07:24,960
Speaker 1: his kicks. That runs the gamut right. Jack has a

2581
02:07:25,000 --> 02:07:29,560
Speaker 1: lot of needs. Jack, Yeah, four more touchdowns, that's asome

2582
02:07:29,600 --> 02:07:33,760
Speaker 1: what his needs were. Four The first tweeter max four

2583
02:07:33,760 --> 02:07:37,360
Speaker 1: and more touchdowns. That's a lot. Look, I told you

2584
02:07:37,680 --> 02:07:40,839
Speaker 1: for some teams it's not. Well, you're right, for Buffalo,

2585
02:07:40,880 --> 02:07:42,000
Speaker 1: it's a lot. I told you. I think the Bills

2586
02:07:42,040 --> 02:07:44,280
Speaker 1: are gonna put up thirty. I think they're going to win.

2587
02:07:44,440 --> 02:07:47,040
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be close. I don't know. Four

2588
02:07:47,080 --> 02:07:49,480
Speaker 1: more touchdowns seems like a lot, but three is in.

2589
02:07:49,920 --> 02:07:52,760
Speaker 1: You know, three works, maybe four maybe you don't need.

2590
02:07:52,800 --> 02:07:55,200
Speaker 1: You almost need four to get the thirty points. I

2591
02:07:55,320 --> 02:07:57,520
Speaker 1: just think this Dolphins team is not that good, Steve.

2592
02:07:58,160 --> 02:08:01,360
Speaker 1: They've won a couple of games. I salute their you know,

2593
02:08:01,600 --> 02:08:03,880
Speaker 1: pat on the back. They keep hanging in there despite

2594
02:08:03,920 --> 02:08:07,280
Speaker 1: the upper management decision to kind of tank. But I

2595
02:08:07,360 --> 02:08:09,520
Speaker 1: don't think. I just think the Bills are a much

2596
02:08:09,600 --> 02:08:13,720
Speaker 1: better team than this Miami team. I really it doesn't. Yeah,

2597
02:08:13,880 --> 02:08:16,320
Speaker 1: but it's murph. Let me just put it in the way.

2598
02:08:16,720 --> 02:08:18,240
Speaker 1: It's a week to week league, and you don't have

2599
02:08:18,320 --> 02:08:19,800
Speaker 1: to be good. All you got to do is play good.

2600
02:08:19,800 --> 02:08:22,160
Speaker 1: And that's what Miami can do. If they play good,

2601
02:08:22,240 --> 02:08:24,960
Speaker 1: they can beat any team, the Bills included. And the

2602
02:08:25,080 --> 02:08:27,760
Speaker 1: Bills need to play as now. The Bills don't have

2603
02:08:27,880 --> 02:08:30,400
Speaker 1: to play their best you would think to beat the Dolphins,

2604
02:08:31,400 --> 02:08:33,960
Speaker 1: but we've seen them, and we've seen them win some

2605
02:08:34,040 --> 02:08:37,080
Speaker 1: games the way they weren't playing their best. But still,

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02:08:38,080 --> 02:08:40,680
Speaker 1: the Bills have got to make this about them. They've

2607
02:08:40,720 --> 02:08:43,000
Speaker 1: got to play their game. They've got to play well.

2608
02:08:43,040 --> 02:08:45,320
Speaker 1: They've got to go out and execute better than they've

2609
02:08:45,320 --> 02:08:48,240
Speaker 1: been executing of late in order to beat this Miami team.

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Speaker 1: Whether Miami's got talent or not, they're gonna line up

2611
02:08:51,240 --> 02:08:52,640
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to play well to beat them.

2612
02:08:52,680 --> 02:08:54,360
Speaker 1: And the Bills have got to understand that this is

2613
02:08:54,400 --> 02:08:56,120
Speaker 1: not gonna I don't believe this is going to be

2614
02:08:56,200 --> 02:08:58,200
Speaker 1: a game where the Bills win by ten. I think

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02:08:58,200 --> 02:09:01,520
Speaker 1: it's going to be a close game, and the Bills

2616
02:09:01,560 --> 02:09:04,680
Speaker 1: are gonna have to mind their manners at the very

2617
02:09:04,800 --> 02:09:07,880
Speaker 1: least in order to win. More on this game, and

2618
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Speaker 1: a couple of closing thoughts. When we return, it is

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Kalada Health. We're in the

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Speaker 1: Ascetica studio at One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo

2621
02:09:16,200 --> 02:09:33,640
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. And so what do we learn from today's show?

2622
02:09:33,720 --> 02:09:35,320
Speaker 1: That's how we wrap things up. What have we learned?

2623
02:09:35,360 --> 02:09:38,120
Speaker 1: Brought to you by Skyworks The official construction equipment rental

2624
02:09:38,160 --> 02:09:41,560
Speaker 1: company of the Buffalo Bills. Good Friday Show Greg Cosell

2625
02:09:41,680 --> 02:09:44,840
Speaker 1: joined us from NFL Matchup and senior producer at NFL Films.

2626
02:09:45,120 --> 02:09:48,120
Speaker 1: Talking about the Bills Miami Matchup. Talked about Ryan Fitzpatrick

2627
02:09:48,200 --> 02:09:50,400
Speaker 1: and what he has done for the Miami Dolphins this year.

2628
02:09:52,160 --> 02:09:54,440
Speaker 1: I admire this guy so much. You know, people lose

2629
02:09:54,480 --> 02:09:56,880
Speaker 1: sight of the number of games he's started in this league.

2630
02:09:56,920 --> 02:09:58,800
Speaker 1: I think he started over one hundred and thirty games

2631
02:09:59,320 --> 02:10:02,760
Speaker 1: coming out of har of her. There's there's just a

2632
02:10:02,920 --> 02:10:06,520
Speaker 1: way he plays. He fights, He throws a pretty good ball.

2633
02:10:06,640 --> 02:10:09,600
Speaker 1: He can still move very well even in his advancing

2634
02:10:09,720 --> 02:10:12,520
Speaker 1: years by NFL standards for a quarterback. Sure, can you

2635
02:10:12,560 --> 02:10:15,200
Speaker 1: throw a bad pick here and there, absolutely, which is

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02:10:15,240 --> 02:10:17,720
Speaker 1: why at times he's been the starter and then not

2637
02:10:17,840 --> 02:10:21,720
Speaker 1: been the starter. But there's a toughness, a resilience to

2638
02:10:21,920 --> 02:10:25,320
Speaker 1: his game. He you know, just as someone who loves football,

2639
02:10:25,360 --> 02:10:27,840
Speaker 1: I think he's kind of fun to watch. He is

2640
02:10:27,880 --> 02:10:31,040
Speaker 1: fun fits his three wins three losses. When he goes

2641
02:10:31,080 --> 02:10:34,960
Speaker 1: against the Bills, and this will be a sixteen start

2642
02:10:35,320 --> 02:10:40,280
Speaker 1: against a former team, that's, excuse me, pretty amazing. Also

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02:10:40,360 --> 02:10:43,640
Speaker 1: on the show today, Andrew Brant the business of the NFL.

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02:10:43,800 --> 02:10:46,360
Speaker 1: He is an MMQB contributor Andrew Brant. We asked him

2645
02:10:46,360 --> 02:10:48,720
Speaker 1: about the fight in Cleveland last night and how quickly

2646
02:10:48,800 --> 02:10:51,880
Speaker 1: the league moved issuing those suspensions and finds less than

2647
02:10:51,920 --> 02:10:54,360
Speaker 1: twelve hours after the game ended. Here's what Andrew Brant said.

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02:10:55,840 --> 02:10:58,480
Speaker 1: It was quite a quite a show. I think the

2649
02:10:58,600 --> 02:11:03,120
Speaker 1: social media outrage in flowing the speed in which the

2650
02:11:03,320 --> 02:11:07,800
Speaker 1: NFL acted. But listen, this is something where you know,

2651
02:11:07,960 --> 02:11:11,640
Speaker 1: we're without precedent. Maybe there have been some helmet swinging

2652
02:11:12,040 --> 02:11:15,640
Speaker 1: going on, but not really at the head of a player,

2653
02:11:16,040 --> 02:11:19,839
Speaker 1: so we're an uncharted territory. We had the Vanta's perfect

2654
02:11:19,880 --> 02:11:22,760
Speaker 1: suspension owner this year, a long one, but this is

2655
02:11:22,760 --> 02:11:25,440
Speaker 1: going to exceed that. So I think they did the

2656
02:11:25,560 --> 02:11:28,640
Speaker 1: right thing and just saying hey, it's indefinite, we'll let

2657
02:11:28,760 --> 02:11:31,960
Speaker 1: you know what the full extent is. But he's not

2658
02:11:32,080 --> 02:11:34,760
Speaker 1: playing again this year. We got and we didn't get

2659
02:11:34,760 --> 02:11:36,720
Speaker 1: into that seed with Andrew, but you heard him saying

2660
02:11:36,760 --> 02:11:40,120
Speaker 1: again it's his opinion. The perfect suspension earlier this year

2661
02:11:40,640 --> 02:11:43,320
Speaker 1: was twelve games. He says, this will exceed that. That's

2662
02:11:43,360 --> 02:11:45,680
Speaker 1: what Andrew believes, which means, do you take the six

2663
02:11:45,800 --> 02:11:47,720
Speaker 1: this year, he thinks it'll be more than six. He

2664
02:11:47,840 --> 02:11:50,400
Speaker 1: thinks this it'll be more than six next year for

2665
02:11:50,600 --> 02:11:52,440
Speaker 1: a Miles Garrett. I agree. I think it should be

2666
02:11:52,520 --> 02:11:55,480
Speaker 1: twelve months. You know, give the take a year of

2667
02:11:55,520 --> 02:11:58,120
Speaker 1: the career away and let the guy pick it up

2668
02:11:58,360 --> 02:12:02,600
Speaker 1: midway through next season. Um. I think it's it's serious,

2669
02:12:02,720 --> 02:12:04,440
Speaker 1: and I think they want to. I think they will

2670
02:12:04,520 --> 02:12:06,960
Speaker 1: make a statement about this. They can't have stuff like

2671
02:12:07,120 --> 02:12:11,400
Speaker 1: this happening in any game, let alone a game when

2672
02:12:11,440 --> 02:12:14,720
Speaker 1: it's a big commercial for everything the NFL should be about.

2673
02:12:14,920 --> 02:12:18,200
Speaker 1: It's just, yeah, they're gonna. I think they're gonna. I'm

2674
02:12:18,240 --> 02:12:20,879
Speaker 1: gonna throw the guy under the bus. How much damage

2675
02:12:21,280 --> 02:12:23,400
Speaker 1: was done to the NFL last night? I don't know.

2676
02:12:23,440 --> 02:12:26,480
Speaker 1: It depends on meetings. Won't decline, No, I don't think.

2677
02:12:26,560 --> 02:12:29,200
Speaker 1: I think though, if there's this thought in the league,

2678
02:12:29,400 --> 02:12:31,720
Speaker 1: in the league of the highest levels, if they're gonna

2679
02:12:31,720 --> 02:12:34,160
Speaker 1: steward the game, you got to know that kids are

2680
02:12:34,160 --> 02:12:38,839
Speaker 1: gonna see that. College coaches, high school coaches, youth football coaches, certainly,

2681
02:12:39,000 --> 02:12:43,280
Speaker 1: NFL is and you know, soccer moms, all of it.

2682
02:12:43,480 --> 02:12:45,840
Speaker 1: If you're gonna steward the game, you gotta make send

2683
02:12:45,920 --> 02:12:47,640
Speaker 1: a message that that is not a part of it

2684
02:12:48,040 --> 02:12:51,760
Speaker 1: and when you cross that line, you're you're gonna regret it.

2685
02:12:52,320 --> 02:12:54,360
Speaker 1: And I think that's the message that needs to be sent.

2686
02:12:54,720 --> 02:12:57,280
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett one of the better defensive players in the

2687
02:12:57,320 --> 02:12:59,440
Speaker 1: game in FEC going into last week's game at Cleveland.

2688
02:13:00,160 --> 02:13:02,240
Speaker 1: I think I made the argument he's probably one of

2689
02:13:02,280 --> 02:13:04,640
Speaker 1: the top three defensive linement in the game and that

2690
02:13:04,840 --> 02:13:07,400
Speaker 1: this is how he will be remembered. That's a price,

2691
02:13:07,480 --> 02:13:09,360
Speaker 1: part of the price he will play as well. Yes

2692
02:13:09,440 --> 02:13:11,640
Speaker 1: it is, and this is gonna follow him around for

2693
02:13:11,760 --> 02:13:13,720
Speaker 1: a while and it's gonna take a long time for

2694
02:13:13,800 --> 02:13:15,520
Speaker 1: him to grow out of this one if, if indeed

2695
02:13:15,560 --> 02:13:18,480
Speaker 1: he can. Miles Garrett suspended indefinitely at least the rest

2696
02:13:18,520 --> 02:13:21,800
Speaker 1: of this season, including postseason, plus a fine Marquise Pouncy

2697
02:13:21,840 --> 02:13:25,240
Speaker 1: of the Steelers three games, plus a fine Larry Ogunjobie

2698
02:13:25,600 --> 02:13:28,000
Speaker 1: of the Browns one game, plus the fine Browns and

2699
02:13:28,040 --> 02:13:31,000
Speaker 1: Steelers teams have been fined, and more punishment coming according

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02:13:31,040 --> 02:13:33,680
Speaker 1: to the league. All right, second, talking about that, aren't

2701
02:13:33,680 --> 02:13:36,080
Speaker 1: you sick of hearing about it? Our production assistant today,

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Speaker 1: George Blast, Jeff Colt, Nick Thomas Hollander, Kelly Rude, JJ, Teredo,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Cartis, James Roebel, our producers Jay Harris Steve have

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02:13:43,040 --> 02:13:45,520
Speaker 1: a great weekend, you too, Murph'll bring you back with

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02:13:45,600 --> 02:13:48,160
Speaker 1: the wine. What I can enjoy, enjoy your seats of

2706
02:13:48,200 --> 02:13:50,240
Speaker 1: the game. Mine'll be better here. You will see the

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02:13:50,280 --> 02:13:52,560
Speaker 1: game than I will help. Question about that. We'll see

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02:13:52,600 --> 02:13:54,760
Speaker 1: him Monday at twelve noon with One Bills Live presented

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02:13:54,760 --> 02:13:57,560
Speaker 1: by Klatta Health from the Seneca Studio in Orchard Park.

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Speaker 1: And this is Buffalo Bills Radio. We didn't be