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Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, and morning happy heavy.

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Speaker 2: Uh no football Saturday?

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Speaker 3: Are you doing football?

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Speaker 2: I'm miserable, Danny d I know, brother, miserable. There's no football.

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Speaker 2: It's freezing cold right now. The temperature is two degrees

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Speaker 2: as much of the country is in swathed in a

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Speaker 2: polar vortex. There's nothing worse. There's like no worse words

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Speaker 3: This is the worst. I'll take rain for a month

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Speaker 3: over this.

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Speaker 2: This is just any day of the week.

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Speaker 4: It's not going anymore either. We have so much Note

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Speaker 4: that's just stuck here in Philadelphia. It's it's so annoying

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Speaker 4: and just it's and you can't move around it going.

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Speaker 2: To drive, it's all us everywhere. It's like driving on

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Speaker 2: the moon. Yeah, it's crazy, and it's true you can't

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Speaker 2: get around. It's miserable. You know what's funny you said it.

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Speaker 2: It's not going anywhere. I was just telling our fine

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Speaker 2: production team of Brianna and Muddy Mark. I was reading

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Speaker 2: them the temperatures of the week, because it's two degrees

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Speaker 2: right now, and next on Super Bowl Sunday the high's

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Speaker 2: like nine.

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Speaker 4: We have like a three week stretch where we're not

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Speaker 4: getting over thirty two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh god, I hate it.

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Speaker 3: A blowtorch out here and starts going to the snow

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Speaker 3: and figuring.

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Speaker 2: Out you know, it's ugly and it's gray ice disgusting. No,

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Speaker 2: it's horrible. It's just horrible. Anyway, this's his project don

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Speaker 2: Il the Great A d Danny d d A d

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Speaker 2: Danny de Bernadidas, ad of Penn Sharter, one of the

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Speaker 2: oldest schools in the country. I'm Anthony Garganda, Love the fellas.

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Speaker 2: Every week it's Project Nil right here on Fox Sports.

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Speaker 2: Ready or we dive into everything from college football, the

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Speaker 2: NIL landscape, college sports and the NIL landscape, high school

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Speaker 2: the whole thing. It's the way that you know, everybody's

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Speaker 2: striving for it. So we take you from youth through

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Speaker 2: high school and into college. That is the premise of

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Speaker 2: clean pants down. All right, I have I got to

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Speaker 2: start the show in a different way because you know,

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Speaker 2: we have a bunch of topics that we're going to discuss,

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Speaker 2: and you know that we recover the world. So it's

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Speaker 2: a basketbald that it's there's stuff going on, you know,

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Speaker 2: every day, especially with college football reshaping. College basketball is

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Speaker 2: not immune as well, because you're we're seeing something that

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Speaker 2: we've never seen before there. But I want to start

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Speaker 2: with youth today, and I need your advice on because

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Speaker 2: I got like bad. I need your advice. So, as

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Speaker 2: I've told you before, I coach multiple sports. I love

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Speaker 2: to do it, all right. I coach basketball. I mean

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Speaker 2: I coach baseball and football and I love it. I

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Speaker 2: love doing it. Uh you knows my kid and my

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Speaker 2: two boys. But it's the young one that I'm always with.

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Speaker 2: I had coached here the older one he's in high

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Speaker 2: seventh grade. I love doing it. So I coached the

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Speaker 2: basketball with you. I've coached this school basketball team since

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Speaker 2: they were in third grade. So whatever that is, three four, five,

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Speaker 2: I had I've never really had a problem with parents.

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Speaker 2: upset at playing time, and this was for a we

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Speaker 2: you're in third and fourth and you know, fifth grade,

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Speaker 2: you want to get them playing time. Right now, we

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Speaker 2: a it's it's technically should be an A to B.

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Speaker 2: One league is very tough. The other league is not

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Speaker 4: Know what, I think it's important to have different, you know,

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Speaker 3: I think it's really important that they're getting on the court.

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Speaker 4: And I'm always in favor of splitting teams and trying

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like you know, listen, if there's a tough league,

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Speaker 2: So you know what, let them play and I want

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Speaker 2: that's always been a thing for me. However, this is

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Speaker 2: now varsity, all right, and I last year we I

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Speaker 2: it starts to get a little serious. You know. Again,

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying SANCAA tournament, but you're trying to win.

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Speaker 3: And you want to give them.

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Speaker 4: You want to give these good good, good characteristics, good

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Speaker 2: Thank you. So you know last year it was a

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Speaker 2: great year, right, Like we won the championship. You know,

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Speaker 2: I had the kids on my show. They freaked out,

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Speaker 2: and we won it and the kids whipping at us. Right.

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Speaker 2: So my sixth graders, including my son, moved up to

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Speaker 2: who is terrific, a young he's a young guy, alum

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Speaker 2: of the school. He's probably twenty three. Great dude, right,

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Speaker 2: So we coached together and I'm the you know, the

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Speaker 2: grizzled veteran, and he's the young dude. So we take

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Speaker 2: There's new leadership in the school. So there's the athletic department, which,

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Speaker 2: Now we got we got the core best seven at

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Speaker 2: to play and it's been a tumultuous season.

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Speaker 3: And is there two leagues at this level as well?

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Speaker 2: Yes, oh yes, it's I'll even give you an it's

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Speaker 4: So there's still two leagues that divide up teams, you know,

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Speaker 4: for skill level, to make sure kids are getting the opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Yes, even though the new athletic Department did not do

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Speaker 4: You know, you got to understand who you have having

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Speaker 4: the body. That's not just the number on the paper.

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Speaker 2: Right right. So fast forward to this year we've had

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Speaker 2: We've had like one thing after another. There was one

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Speaker 2: you this before. Uh I now I yelled at them

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Speaker 2: all right, now a full disclosure. I did kids go

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Speaker 2: know I didn't use foul language. I wasn't Bobby Knight, right,

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Speaker 2: but I laid into them. I made them run gassers.

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Speaker 2: I laid into them like are you gonna be serious?

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Speaker 2: Are you wasting your time? You wasted my time, you

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Speaker 2: wasted your parents' time. You know, the typical speech about

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Speaker 2: But you know, hey, this is a great life lesson

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Speaker 2: I got all those speeches, so I get in trouble

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Speaker 2: it starts with that. I'm like, sister, all due respect,

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Speaker 2: Like this isn't like everybody gets a trophy time, Like

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Speaker 3: But also what's next?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: And like high school sports is next?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: You want to give kids realistic expectations, right, you want

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Speaker 4: there's cuts and you know, not everyone gets to play

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Speaker 4: and you know, fight for it. But this is also

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Speaker 4: like I think there's a good way to find a

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Speaker 4: to set them up for what's next.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I mean most of the kids

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Speaker 2: and listen, all due respect, my kids will go good athletes.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I mean we've we've worked at him.

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Speaker 2: my life and you know whatever. But it's Danna here

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Speaker 2: it drives me insane because I don't believe in participation

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Speaker 2: in trophies. I believe a certainly at certain age, like

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Speaker 2: you gotta get them ready. And again, you know, I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm love you you can be, But like they gotta

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Speaker 2: be tall first, plenty of time to love them up.

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Speaker 2: But sometimes they gotta be you know, you gotta in

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Speaker 2: the right you know how it is during a long season, right,

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Speaker 2: like you know, you get on them, you ride them

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Speaker 2: you've given your all, right, that's all that matters.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I tell my coaches to be firm, and you know,

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Speaker 4: Right, there's a there's a good there's a line where

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Speaker 4: up at the end of the day. And good coaches

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Speaker 4: find that that medium where they can you know, kids,

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Speaker 4: you know, have a little fear and respect, but definitely

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Speaker 4: respect their coaches, but also love their coaches.

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Speaker 3: Right, there's a thin line and really good coaches.

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Speaker 2: And I love the kids, Like if I told you

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Speaker 2: the kids, especially my you know, the group I had,

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Speaker 2: Like love these kids. And ironically, the last game we played,

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Speaker 2: we played the best team in the league, a team

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Speaker 2: called Christ the King eighth grade, all eighth graders. Kids

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Speaker 2: were terrific, Like they're good ball players, like really good,

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Speaker 4: You're you were trying to, you know, get them ready

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Speaker 2: It's like I actually had a work dinner, right, so,

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Speaker 2: because it's travel baseball, Like there's a degree of hey,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouild for My advice would be to see

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Speaker 4: know it's not ideal, but just also lay like lay

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Speaker 4: to have opportunities. We're going to challenge them, right because

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Speaker 4: going to have to, you know, come in contact with so, like,

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Speaker 4: let's have an honest conversation about expectations, right, Like what

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: We want to be competitive, we want our kids develop.

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Speaker 2: I've already tried like an email like that, like you got.

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Speaker 3: To get it. But blessed people, I've learned this through athletics.

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Speaker 4: I bring them in a room. Man, you can't hide

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Speaker 4: behind a keyboard. Yeah, you know people and be like hey,

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Speaker 2: Always that's the problems. Like I'm just trying to stay

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Speaker 2: Yeah, see, that's the other problems. I'm trying to stay

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Speaker 2: They don't really understand sports.

431
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Speaker 3: I don't say, I don't think they understand it.

432
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Speaker 4: So like getting them in a room where you can

433
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 4: talk realistically and like again, you don't have to fight

434
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 4: with them, just laying out like hard truth.

435
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Speaker 3: Right, this is what it looks like. We're preparing for this.

436
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 4: If everyone shows up the practice and works hard, we're

437
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,959
Speaker 4: going to figure out time for everyone to get their

438
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 4: opportunity to you know, to show off their skill, and

439
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,439
Speaker 4: we'll figure it out. But also like this isn't what

440
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 4: next or in eighth grade they're going there's cuts next year. Right,

441
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 4: So we're trying to get them prepared for what's next,

442
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Speaker 4: and we're gonna push.

443
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Speaker 3: Them to be ready for that. And you know, you

444
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 3: can join this process, so you don't have to be

445
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 3: a part of it. Right. This is a choice. This

446
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 3: isn't a requirement, This isn't math class.

447
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Speaker 2: Yeah. If I the backing of the school, I would,

448
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Speaker 2: I would, I would be more apt to take on

449
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 2: the challenge. Right, But I feel like I'm against it

450
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 2: everywhere I look.

451
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 4: Right, I left the out come into meeting calling the lefty, and.

452
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Speaker 2: I got the other one. I have the kid who

453
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: I love, the kid I coach with, who's awesome kid, Like,

454
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 2: he's a great kid. Graig knows. He loves the game.

455
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Speaker 2: He's a volunteer. He wants to coach basketball like he

456
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 2: wants to. He's an accountant right by day, and he

457
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Speaker 2: wants to. He really wants to be a high school

458
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Speaker 2: basketball coach. So he's doing this too, you know, and

459
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 2: he loves it. He loves the game, and I love

460
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Speaker 2: the kid for it, right, Like, you know, he's a great,

461
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Speaker 2: great young man, great young man. And I and he's

462
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 2: and they're trying to bully him, and I'm watching this stuff.

463
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 2: And I'm going, like, we had one parent, these two parents.

464
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 2: We're winning a game, right, we're winning big. And I

465
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 2: have the other kids in the game, right, their their

466
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Speaker 2: son and some of the other kids in the game.

467
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Speaker 2: I you know, you have did a bench and they

468
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Speaker 2: played like for the entire fourth quarter. Yeah, and we

469
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 2: have the ball, we're dribbling out the we're dribbling out

470
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Speaker 2: the clock. And I hear them yell, shoot shoot, and

471
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, do not shoot that ball.

472
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't understand the etiquette of the game, Like, what.

473
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Speaker 2: Are we doing here? Shoot? Shoot? These your eighth kids

474
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Speaker 2: in eighth grader?

475
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Speaker 3: You didn't needn't.

476
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't, you don't. And that's disrespect for the

477
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Speaker 4: other team. And what's going on?

478
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Speaker 2: So I mean, what are we doing? What are we

479
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 2: raising all about little Johnny? And again they're not going

480
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Speaker 2: to duke all right, you can't even And here's the

481
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Speaker 2: last thing I'll say about it, because I have equity here.

482
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Speaker 2: When my Anthony was in eighth grade at the same school.

483
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Speaker 2: My Anthony's a football player, right, Like he's big, he

484
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 2: has no touch, right, he can't shoot, he doesn't dribble.

485
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: He's a football player. He loves contact. He can rebound,

486
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 2: and he he's big, right, and he can board, but

487
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 2: he's just not a shooter, right, Like he's not a

488
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 2: basketball player, yeap. And so you know he didn't start

489
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Speaker 2: even though he was bigger than almost everybody on the

490
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Speaker 2: squat actually him and another kid and didn't get a

491
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Speaker 2: ton of run. Did I say boo? Now? I didn't

492
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 2: say boo, right because I know, I'm like, dude, listen,

493
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 2: when you're in the game, you got to be like Rodman.

494
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 2: I showed me videos a robbed. You got to go

495
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 2: play defense and rebound and that's it, right. But I

496
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 2: wasn't trying to a coach me because they go because

497
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 2: I knew that. You know, listen, he's got another sport

498
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Speaker 2: and he inciates expectation.

499
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Speaker 4: Then you understood what it was, you know what was next, right,

500
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Speaker 4: So it's it's I wish every parent had that mindset.

501
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Speaker 3: They don't.

502
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Speaker 4: So again, I would just try to educate them, be

503
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Speaker 4: firm about what the lines are, you know, and communicate

504
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Speaker 4: what we're trying to do, and you.

505
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Speaker 3: Know, just hold it. I called the kids accountable.

506
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Speaker 4: At the same time, I know it's easier said than done,

507
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Speaker 4: and you need to have support from you know, the

508
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 4: athletic department or the school. But yeah, I always just

509
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 4: try to get them in a room. People email, they're

510
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 4: different in person. I've seen it a thousand times. Right,

511
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 4: everyone wants to email and throw around accusations and use

512
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 4: really strong words. But when you get there and you

513
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 4: can sit them down and tell them actually what it is, yeah,

514
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 4: I think's tones change.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you, brother, I appreciate that. Let's talk about

516
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Speaker 2: the curious case of Darien Mensa.

517
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Speaker 3: Oh Man, who is leaving Duke.

518
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 2: For Miami, and once again the quarterbacks are causing a start, right.

519
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, So, just for people who might not know the story,

520
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 4: Duke quarterback back in July signed a two year in

521
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Speaker 4: al deal for eight million dollars, so four million a season.

522
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Speaker 3: Very fair at the time.

523
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 4: They probably looked like an overpaid at the time because

524
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Speaker 4: he was good but didn't have you know, four million

525
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Speaker 4: kind of at last year was kind of the top

526
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Speaker 4: of the scale.

527
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 3: But you had a year, great year, right, absolute great year.

528
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Speaker 4: And in this crazy, you know, wild West world we're

529
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 4: living in, someone basically tells him we're gonna offer you six.

530
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 3: And then he's in the portal and then the legal.

531
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Speaker 4: Battle ensued, so he basically tried to get out of

532
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 4: his contract.

533
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 3: He just entered the portal.

534
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 4: Duke then held it up. They said, no, no, no,

535
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 4: we have a contract with you. We're gonna we're gonna

536
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 4: sue you. Right because you signed a two year deal,

537
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 4: we have your rights until the end of twenty six.

538
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 4: He played the first year of it and they're looking

539
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 4: to finish that out. A judge put an injunction against

540
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 4: him potentially enrolling at new school, and it wasn't supposed

541
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 4: to be until Monday that the injunction was lifted. However,

542
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 4: this past week they settled Duke and Mensa. They sat

543
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 4: down and had a, you know, an agreement.

544
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure. So maybe the school he's going to

545
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 3: maybe gave some.

546
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 4: Financial you know, retribution, gave him some money back for

547
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 4: him leaving, and he was that. They allowed him to

548
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 4: leave his contract and he is now enrolled in the

549
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 4: University of Miami, which is rumored to have spent the

550
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 4: six million dollars on him as a quarterback and potentially

551
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 4: given Duke four million dollars for him to get out

552
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 4: of it for them not to pursue the court anymore.

553
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. See that's where we are right now, which is

554
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 2: to get out of the deal. These other schools are

555
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 2: gonna look to recoup some of that money. The problem

556
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 2: we have. I'm sorry, go ahead, buddy.

557
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Speaker 4: No, I think it's it's fair. I mean, if you

558
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 4: in this late in the game, if you invested in

559
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 4: this guy, I think there should be some conversation back

560
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 4: because you've missed out on other people.

561
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: Yes, I agree, I agree. I think also the other

562
00:29:53,560 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 2: issue is the nature of the contract because they ken

563
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: it's an nil contract. It's not as services contract in

564
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: the sense that again without a CBA, it's so hard.

565
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: Everybody's going to just run to the.

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Speaker 4: Court and he would have won eventually, it would have

567
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 4: been drawn out, but he would have won in court

568
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 4: because again these kids, they're not technical employees. They're not

569
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 4: you know, they're getting you know, they're like contractors, right,

570
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 4: So these contracts, yes, are different. And I think these

571
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 4: multi year contracts are going to go away because the

572
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 4: kids will always win in court if they want to

573
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 4: get out. So I think it's going to be a

574
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 4: year to year contract now, just because of the multi

575
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 4: year ones the kids have tried getting out happened in

576
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 4: Washington now, it's happening in a duke right where these

577
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 4: kids are trying to leave after the first year of

578
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 4: a two year deal or you know, a three year deal,

579
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 4: depending on where you are. And I think they're going

580
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 4: to try to continue to get smarter with the verbids

581
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 4: in these contracts to try to hold people accountable. But

582
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 4: it's a wild West out there, man, and I want

583
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 4: the kids to, you know, be in the best situation.

584
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 4: I understand coaches leave all the time, but also like if.

585
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 3: You you know, if you give the school.

586
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 4: Your word and the coach is still there and you

587
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 4: know you, I feel like they he should have had

588
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 4: to honor that contract. Duke missed out on everyone in

589
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 4: the portal because yeah, yeah, So an interesting thing I

590
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 4: think is going to continue to happen and it's going

591
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 4: to continue to evolve. But again, I think we've said

592
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 4: this a bunch until like there's some real legislation on it.

593
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 4: It's going to be really difficult for people to to

594
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 4: have any real parameters, right, It's just going to keep

595
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 4: changing every you know, every every week there's a different

596
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 4: story about what's going on or tampering non tampering. Right,

597
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 4: these schools, these kids are in contract with schools and

598
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 4: the head coaches are just calling them saying, you know,

599
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 4: I'll give you a million dollars more, come on over, So.

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00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 2: Let me throw this at you and we'll talk about

601
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: on the other side. But the case of rud Curse, right,

602
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 2: rug Curs operated at a set seventy eight million dollar

603
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: deficit this past year. All right, crazy seventy Okay, So

604
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 2: their football related expenditures reached seventy six million, including seventy

605
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: million in coaching salaries and eleven point one in support

606
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 2: staff salaries. They have now lost five hundred and sixteen

607
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: million dollars sit in the eleven years since joining the

608
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: Big ten.

609
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Speaker 3: Yep, how long?

610
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Speaker 2: And I want you to think about it. How long

611
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: can you continue to operate losing that kind of money.

612
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,479
Speaker 2: If it's any other business, you're long gone. You shuttered

613
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Speaker 2: the doors. And this is something that you wonder how

614
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Speaker 2: many Division I programs are actually going to exist in

615
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Speaker 2: ten years. Let's discuss it. The second we are the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll talk about it. We could talk to you,

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Speaker 2: I played. I saw a kid, a seventh grader. Did

646
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 2: you see this kid who's dunking It's crazy. She's dunking

647
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 2: on everybody. This kid, it's it was incredible. Seventh grader

648
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: six five Yeah, off the backboard to himself and flushed it.

649
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 4: I said, I need to know what these kids are eating, man,

650
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 4: I mean, sheesh, I know, and bigger and bigger.

651
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: It's wild. It really is wild. So let me ask you,

652
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: Rutgers operating at that kind of deficit, how soon to

653
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 2: these others you see schools battling out.

654
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a gifting and curse being a part of

655
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 4: these big conferences. Right, they're in the Big Ten. It's

656
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 4: one of the biggest conferences in the country. So you're

657
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 4: spending to try to keep up and be competitive. But

658
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 4: if you keep ending up at the bottom, it's not

659
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 4: a solution. Right, So if you're trying to invest similar

660
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 4: to the Penn State's Ohio States you know, Michigan's if

661
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 4: you're trying to compete, you know with these big programs Nebraska, Wisconsin, Right,

662
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 4: you're trying to really know USC, right, You're trying to

663
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 4: compete with the with the blue bloods, right, and you're

664
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 4: coming in the bottom tier of everything.

665
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 3: You're not getting that money that's coming back that these.

666
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 4: Programs benefit off of from all these endorsements and sponsorship deals,

667
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 4: because there the money's not flowing back in and eventually

668
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 4: it's going to come to a head.

669
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't know if the Big Ten is

670
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 3: for Rutgers, right.

671
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 4: It's a big university, it's in good spot, but it's

672
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 4: been a while since they've been able to figure out

673
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 4: how to be consistently competitive at these major sports. You know,

674
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 4: I don't know how they do on maybe and you

675
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 4: know the other side of like soccer and you know

676
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: the other sports there are still big sports, but not

677
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 4: as money driven. But they're spending a lot on football

678
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 4: and basketball and it's not working out.

679
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: You know, like think about the basketball team, right that

680
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: you had two elite top what five picks?

681
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, he felt he felt a seven, or he would

682
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 4: have been it would have been two top four picks

683
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 4: if he didn't push himself out.

684
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: Right, And we think about that for a second. That

685
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 2: and they were horrible, Yeah, but they were terrible.

686
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 3: And the department they got it. I knew they got

687
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 3: a new ad.

688
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 4: They got to do some looking in the mirror and

689
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 4: you know, maybe try to find some new coaches and

690
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 4: try to get a little bit more creative with their

691
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 4: budget because it's not sustainable and it will come I

692
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 4: think it will come crashing down eventually. You can't keep losing,

693
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 4: you know, seventy million dollars a year.

694
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 2: You really need to set No, you can't do it.

695
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 2: Don't you think they really need to set the two

696
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 2: leagues like you got to have we're talking about it,

697
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: and we started the show talking about an A and

698
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: a B team, Right, you need an A and a

699
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 2: B league. And this is where relegation comes into play.

700
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: Like you know, you can have it and there's a

701
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 2: you know, cap I don't know. You gotta figure that

702
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 2: somewhere where you can exist. And let me tell you,

703
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 2: people will watch it, like if there is if you have,

704
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: like I don't know, seventy teams or sixty teams in

705
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 2: the A division, right, call it the Big ten SEC

706
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: and yet and you gobbled up the rest of the

707
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: Big twelve and ACC and you have this. You have

708
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 2: this great league, all right, that's your premier league, the

709
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: secondary league where you may have your Washington States and

710
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 2: you know Duke right like those schools. You best believe

711
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: people are gonna watch.

712
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 3: Oh for sure. And I think part of the problem

713
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 3: is with this.

714
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 4: And I argue with even at the high school level,

715
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 4: people say, well, if we.

716
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 3: Change it for one sport, we got to change for all.

717
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 4: And I say, I'm more of the belief of let's

718
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 4: figure it out what's best for the sport, right some

719
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 4: sports that doesn't make sense.

720
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 3: Football does, right, So like I'm not trying to.

721
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 4: I want every sport to be its best, so and

722
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 4: try to instead of having everyone play by the same

723
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 4: you know, layout or alignment.

724
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 3: Let's figure out what's best for each sport.

725
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 4: Now, it might be more work, it might be more logistics,

726
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 4: but we're not maximizing the sport. And I think it's

727
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 4: important to do that to give the sports the best platform.

728
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't understand that. You maybe you can shed

729
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: some light as to my guess is the uniformity makes

730
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 2: it easier across the board.

731
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 3: But it's easier way out, I think. I know, it's

732
00:38:59,080 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 3: still bit more difficult.

733
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 4: I understand it's difficult when I say it, you know,

734
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 4: I bring it up in league meetings when I want

735
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 4: to you know, get creative in certain sports. They say, well,

736
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 4: it doesn't work for three. I'm like, well, then let's

737
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 4: figure out the best for those three. They get is

738
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 4: more work, but let's figure it out. Let's work hard

739
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 4: so we can have this opportunity to you know, maximize

740
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 4: each sport. I want every sport to shine.

741
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, especially now like it's different. You can't, you can't.

742
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 2: And this is a concept of what it's all the same.

743
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: It's not all the same.

744
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 4: And every sports, especially with this NC Double A's and

745
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 4: how the money is, it's different. Right, there's hundreds of

746
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 4: millions of billions of dollars at stake. And again, I

747
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 4: want to elevate those other sports. But also let's not

748
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 4: try to jam them in a box because it works

749
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 4: for football.

750
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 2: Right And and the truth of the matter is football

751
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 2: and basketball drive the revenue. Yep, So you know they

752
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 2: have to be treated differently.

753
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I again like I'm not I'm trying, not

754
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 4: trying to dismiss the other sports. I wanted to elevate

755
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 4: them about either.

756
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 2: But yeah, but my only point is that you can't uniformity,

757
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 2: Like you can't be traveling from USC to Penn State

758
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: or to Rutgers to play volleyball.

759
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 3: No, you're right, it doesn't make sense.

760
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 2: You're killing yourself to travel. But it's ridiculous.

761
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's part of it too.

762
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 4: That's that's how you spend as you spend five hundred

763
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 4: million dollars is part of it. I mean, want a Tuesday,

764
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 4: you're going out to the USC for a volleyball game.

765
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's crazy. It's crazy. Anyway, that's gonna

766
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 2: do for us. It flies by every week. Thanks for

767
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 2: hanging with us. Listen, we uh have the Fellaws coming

768
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: up next, so don't go anywhere