1 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: FT Breaking news time, Happy trade deadline. Eve. Let's get 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: right to FT senior insider Ken Rosenthal, as there have 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: been some trade since our last live show. Ken, the 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: big one to start with is the Phillies landing Yon 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: Duran to close out games for them for the next 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: two and a half seasons. What did you think of 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: the move and anything else that they could potentially do 8 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: after this. 9 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 2: Scott, it was classic Dave Debrowski. 10 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: He sees the best guy in the market. 11 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: He says, I want the best guy in the market, 12 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: and he gets the best guy in the market, and 13 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 2: the return from the Twins perspective pretty good. Mcabel could 14 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 2: be a major league starter for them for quite some time. 15 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: And the catcher is young, but he's considered one of 16 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: the top one hundred prospects in the game. So I 17 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: got a text from a manager after that trade saying, 18 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 2: d d Dave Dombrowski is the best in the game 19 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 2: and this is why he does these things, and he 20 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: makes moves to win World Series and he's not messing around. 21 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: Do you think that there will be anything else? It 22 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: sounded like for his press or, he said he's done 23 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: on the bullpen side because they also signed David robertson recently. 24 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: Do you think they could add a right handed bat, 25 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: maybe an outfielder there. 26 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: It's really interesting, Scott that the Mets and Phillies were 27 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: kind of vying for relievers today, and of course the 28 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: Mets came up with Ryan Helsley, and they could be 29 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: both vying for Luis Robert or other bats in the 30 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: market right now, so that competition is going to continue. 31 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: I expect them both to make additional moves, and I 32 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 2: don't know if it's Louise Robert junior or not. But 33 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: these teams, again, they see the prize and I don't 34 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 2: know that any of these clubs in the NL the 35 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: real contenders. The Cubs, the Mets, a Phillies see the 36 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: Dodgers as invincible and that's why we're seeing them behave 37 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: as they are. And I would add the Padres into 38 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: that as well. They all believe that there is a 39 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: pathway here to playing really deep in October. 40 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: So the Mets, Rogers and Helsley with Diaz, that's a 41 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: pretty formidable back end of the bullpen. I'm assuming Hellsier 42 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: slide into the eighth inning, Diez will stay in the ninth, 43 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 3: and Rogers will clean up wherever they need him against 44 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,279 Speaker 3: right especially right handed hitters. 45 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: That would be my assumption. 46 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: Aj. 47 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: The beauty of this is if you've used Edwin Diaz, 48 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: Edwin Diaz a couple of days in a row, then 49 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: you've got Hellesley and it gives you that depth, that protection. 50 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: And remember they. 51 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 2: Have some pretty formidable relievers read Garrett right in front 52 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: of those guys. So this makes them that much stronger. 53 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: And it's really impressive to see what they're doing with 54 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: that bullpen and how they kind of adjusted on the 55 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: fly today to make it that much better. 56 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, they give up six prospects, they pick up two relievers. 57 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: Good work by the Mets. And now Ken, let's get 58 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: to the padres. So right before we went on, I 59 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: see a tweet and an article from you and Dennis 60 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: Lynn about them big game hunting. What do you think happens? 61 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: Well, AJ Preller has a history, he has a track record. 62 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: He has this incredible run of landing big name talent. 63 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: He does it, he does it seemingly every year, and 64 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: he's after some big names. Now, Jaron Durant, he has 65 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: not given up Stephen Kwan. He's in the mix for him, 66 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: and even Mason Miller. I heard earlier this week that 67 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: the A's were not inclined to deal with Aj. They 68 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: thought he didn't have the players that they would want. 69 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: And here we go. 70 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 2: AJ's right in the mix. He will not stop. He's relentless. 71 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 2: So we'll see how this all turns out, and we'll 72 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: see if they're willing to give up the great shortstop 73 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 2: prospect Derees anythan Salas the catcher who is hurt. But 74 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 2: I anticipate something big happening with the Padres, and of 75 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: course they're still trying to move Cease and possibly Suarez. 76 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: They're doing all these different kinds of things. They'll have 77 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: to backfill if they move Cease with the starting pitcher. 78 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: Really, they're capable of anything. 79 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: We know that, all right, Ken, Well, then who's left 80 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 3: who's left out there? Of whether relief market starting, we 81 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: haven't seen a lot of starting pitchers move. We haven't 82 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 3: seen hardly any bats move. Who's next? 83 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: No starting pitchers really, and that's one thing that we'll 84 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: be looking for. Gallon and Kelly in Arizona, Alcandra and 85 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: Cabrera in Miami. If they move, these are going to 86 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: be interesting things to watch. My understanding is the prices 87 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: on all those guys, according to the people trying to 88 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: get them, are sky high, and maybe that's why there 89 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 2: hasn't been any deals of note with starting pictures of 90 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 2: any consequence yet relief pictures. 91 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: There are still a ton remaining. 92 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: You've got David Bednor maybe at the top of the 93 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: list right now. You've got Griffin Jacks if the Twins 94 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: want to move him, the Colorado relievers, they've been in play, 95 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: Pete Fairbanks, Mason Miller. As we mentioned, there are still 96 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: teams with significant needs in the bullpen as well. Detroit 97 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: would be won, the Red Sox, the Yankees. Of course, 98 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 2: there's going to be a lot going on in the 99 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: next whatever how many hours we have left. There's a 100 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: lot still to be done. 101 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and at least somewhat of a price has been 102 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: set here or a short term rental reliever and then 103 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: a longer term rental reliever. We'll see if that kicks 104 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: up the market. Otherwise we'll see you tomorrow. Ken, thank 105 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: you for the time. Okay, thanks guys, So here's the 106 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: deal for us. We're gonna be on still for a 107 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: little bit to break down those moves. Since our last 108 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: live show, Fair territory is also on tomorrow after the 109 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: trade deadline. Special timing for you. We'll give you more 110 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: details tomorrow when we're on during the day from one 111 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: to five Eastern Ken. We'll be on with Alana later 112 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: on in the day. Let's kick it back here and 113 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: let's go over some of the major moves that happened 114 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: in the last few hours. Let's start with the biggest one, 115 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: name wise and team control wise, and that's Jon Duran 116 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: moving from the Twins over to the Phillies. Jose Alvarado 117 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: got popped for Peds aj and this bullpen needed help 118 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: as it is, So what do they do? They signed 119 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: David Robertson. You don't have to trade anyone for you 120 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: just have to give up money. And we should see 121 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: him hopefully contributing for them in a somewhat high leverage 122 00:05:58,279 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: role if he looks like he did last year. He 123 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: was a strikeout machine again last year. And then Duran's great. 124 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: I mean, that's great stuff for them in the ninth inning. 125 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: How much do you think this makes them a World 126 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: Series contender like they've been in the last few years. 127 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 3: It definitely helps. Duran is the guy they've been looking 128 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: for in the ninth inning, they've used Romano, which he's 129 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 3: been Okay. 130 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: I think he's been bad. 131 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: Yeah what Yeah, Listen, Duran is a bona fide ninth 132 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 3: inning closer guy and in Philly he can be great 133 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 3: and he can become one of those guys that can 134 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 3: get him to the next level. And this is what, 135 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 3: like Ken said, this is what Dave Dombrowski does. He 136 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 3: goes out, he shoots for the big fish, and he 137 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: usually gets him because he's not afraid to trade guys 138 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 3: like Able and Tate because you know what, at the 139 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 3: end of the day, if he wins a World Series 140 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 3: in Philly, he doesn't care because the fans can give 141 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 3: him a rust. And usually after he wins, winner gets 142 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: in there, he gets let go anyway, so he moves 143 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 3: on to the next team. It does it again. So 144 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 3: God bless you, Dave Dombrowski. You're the man. 145 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: So they give up a low you know, an a 146 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: ball prospect and Edward Tyt and we're gonna get JJ 147 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: Cooper's thoughts on the prospect return coming up soon. Mickabel 148 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: has made six big league starts. Here's the return package 149 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: for the Twins. Mckabel wasn't cracking the starting rotation for 150 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: the Phillies this season. He's twenty three years old. That's 151 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: a guy you're gonna have league minimum for the next 152 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: few years. If you're the Twins. That's exactly what you're 153 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: looking for. The upsides there, the floors there too, as 154 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: at least I would say a back end starter. The 155 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: Phillies didn't have to give up Andrew Paynter. They didn't 156 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: have to give up Aden Miller. That's their best pitcher. 157 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: And then Miller's their best position player along with Justin Crawford. 158 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: So able's up there, but it's probably not their top 159 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: three in terms of prospects. And this is a guy 160 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: for two and a half years now that, if he's healthy, 161 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: is a top five closer in the sport for the Phillies. 162 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: I remember seeing the last few days reports like, oh, 163 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: the asking price for some of these guys is off 164 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: the charts. I saw that. I was like that, looks okay. 165 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: I actually thought they would get a little bit more, 166 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: probably one more guy from the Phillies or from someone else. 167 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: You know. The Phillies won this because they're a little 168 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: bit more aggressive. Dave Dombrowski is more aggressive than most 169 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: other gms. 170 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 3: He doesn't let TAYI sit there as an eighteen year 171 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 3: old and say, oh man, in four years, this guy 172 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: could be a starting catcher. In four years, Dave Debroski's 173 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 3: probably won't have that job, so he doesn't care. Yeah, 174 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 3: and mckamblay's like he's not getting the rotation right now. 175 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 3: We have Painter and some other guys coming. Okay, twins enjoy. 176 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 3: We'll take Duran for what three years he has left, 177 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 3: so we know for the next three years our closer 178 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 3: is probably going to be Duran. Again, I love this move. 179 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 3: I think this is a great move. And I don't know. 180 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: And for the Phillies here here's gen Will so some 181 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: comments here as we go. Love but the Phillies have 182 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: done and I mean, yeah, now bring on Suarez. We'll 183 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: see it could be an outfielder too. Like Ken mentioned, 184 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: they're going for some of the same guys them and 185 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: the Mets. Maybe they get a Luis Robert. I think 186 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: that would be a really nice we'll add for them. 187 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: Bat Wise, Duran has postseason experience too. Four postseason appearances, 188 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 1: eighteen batters faced, no runs, two hits, six strikeouts, no 189 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: extra base hits. You'll take that. Yeah pretty good, Yeah, 190 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: pretty damn good when you're facing the best hitting. For me, 191 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: I'm curious on a team like the Mariners, they picked 192 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: up Josh Naylor. It sounded like, according at least some reports, 193 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: including John Hayman, that they were in on Duran and 194 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: then on Helsleyan didn't get them. I'm like, they've got 195 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: a better prospect covered in terms of what the industry 196 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: values than the Phillies for sure. I'm like, I wonder 197 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: what held them back. We'll find out at some point, 198 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: or do they get one of the other guys available, 199 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: like a Bednar or Dennis Santana, Because you figure the 200 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: Phillies are done on bullpen, so at least if you're 201 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: competing for bullpen guys, you don't have to worry about 202 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: competing against Dave Dombrowski at this point. That's big. 203 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 3: No, that is a big thing. But the Phillies are done. 204 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 3: Now what do they do next? What are the What 205 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 3: do the Phillies do next? 206 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: What do you want them to do? What do you 207 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: think they will outfield Luis Robert. 208 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 3: I don't know if he's the answer. Everyone keeps using 209 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: the name, but I mean maybe I don't know, I 210 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 3: just don't know. I think they need they need they 211 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 3: need another bat for me in order to make this 212 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 3: a complete roster that can win a World Series. I 213 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 3: think they could win a World Series now if they 214 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 3: if the guys stay healthy. But if they get that 215 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 3: one bat, this could be a really dangerous, dangerous team 216 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:27,359 Speaker 3: come October. 217 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: What about Gene Suarez, Yeah, I mean how long is 218 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: boem out? I don't know. What if he's in the deal. 219 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: What if the Diamondbacks get Bome for next year? The 220 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: Diamonbacks are trying to compete again next year. 221 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 3: I mean, that's that might be the thing for Suarez. 222 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: And someone else other people. 223 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I would the Phillies, I would think about that, 224 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 3: and because then they have the might to resign him too. 225 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 3: That's the thing. 226 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: And Boone's a free agent after next year. I think 227 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: he's got about maybe ten million bucks. 228 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, would you rather have Genosuarez come in or 229 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: have Alec Bohm who he a nice player? But I mean, 230 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 3: if you're the Phillies, Tuirez goes there and helps let 231 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 3: them to the World Series, you resign him. You don't 232 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 3: have to worry about. 233 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: It right now. Geno, of course, yeah, and he came 234 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: right back after, you know, missing a day and looked 235 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: pretty damn good to me. His last hit ever or 236 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: his last ab ever for the Ninebacks a double. Here's 237 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: JJ Cooper from Baseball America on the prospect return for 238 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: the Twins, who are definitely in cell mode. And finally, 239 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: a big difference from last year is that bigger name 240 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: prospects are moving. 241 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 4: We hadn't seen a top one hundred prospect traded at 242 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 4: the deadline since twenty twenty three. We hadn't seen a 243 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 4: prospect this highly rated traded since the Wan Soto deal 244 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 4: at the deadline in twenty twenty two. But Yuan Duran 245 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 4: is now a Philly. What did the Twins get back? 246 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 4: Eduardo Tayit is our number fifty prospect in the game. 247 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 4: He is one of the best young power prospects behind 248 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 4: the plate that you're going to see. It is massive 249 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 4: raw power that he he gets do in games pretty regularly. 250 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 4: It's a big arm. There are questions about his ability 251 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 4: to catch. He's going to have to keep working on that. 252 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 4: That's the kind of the question that he's facing. But 253 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 4: the offensive upside is pretty immense. And then mckabel, he 254 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 4: was a top hundred prospect for US until we just 255 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 4: updated our list and added the MLB draftees. He was 256 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 4: in the nineties before that. Very nice bounce back season 257 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 4: for him last year kind of with a big step 258 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 4: back for him, but the first round pick from a 259 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 4: few years ago kind of solidified everything. This year has 260 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 4: reached the majors. I expect that he's probably going to 261 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 4: go into that rather depleted Twins rotation right away. Could 262 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 4: be a mid rotation starter if everything breaks right. So 263 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 4: high price was paid wander M's really good number of 264 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 4: prospects that got back for the Twins are going to 265 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 4: go right to the top of the list of prospects 266 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 4: we've seen traded at the deadline in recent years. 267 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: Good stop, JJ, thank you, and make sure you get 268 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: to Baseball America. Get yourself a subscription. The best in 269 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: the bids at breaking down the prospects. Yeah, hundred plus 270 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: on the fastball, you got the upper ninety splinker. He 271 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: was one of the first, if not the first guys 272 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: to really make that pitch popular in this modern era, 273 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: and he's been on fire this year. Look, we have 274 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: a reporter on the scene in the state of Pennsylvania. 275 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: Covering this trade for US. Eric Kratz is here. Kratz 276 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: Duran's got a two toh one eras giving up one 277 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: home run the entire year. How excited should Philly fans 278 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: be about this move, along with them picking up David 279 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: Robertson a week and a half ago. 280 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 5: Ever since Jose Alarado went down, they've been looking for 281 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 5: a closer. They have a legitimate, bona fide closer that's 282 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 5: not only just a one year rental. 283 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: That's right, two and a half years for jan Duran. 284 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: Was that important to them? Alvarado is a free agent 285 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: after this year. 286 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 5: He had an option that at the beginning of the 287 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 5: year looked like they were going to pick it up. 288 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 5: I think it was all It wasn't very much, but 289 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 5: now that he's a juicer, you know, Jim Bowden even 290 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 5: said it, I wouldn't bring the guy back, Like, why 291 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 5: pick up the option? You don't know what kind of 292 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 5: guy you get. I don't think it's that simple for 293 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 5: the Phillies. I think it could be still on the table. 294 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 5: But yeah, it's always great to lock down your closer role, 295 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 5: and you know you do it in a trade for 296 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 5: Mick Abel, who filled in admirably and for his first 297 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 5: doubting you know, kind of his strikeout numbers kind of 298 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 5: like kind of came back to the mean a little bit. 299 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 5: He's not gonna be that monster strikeout starter, but it 300 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 5: seems like he can be, like JJ said, more like 301 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 5: a three in a rotation. I think might be his ceiling. 302 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 5: And they never even had to touch Andrew Paynter, so 303 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 5: who they feel could be a one or two in 304 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 5: a rotation. 305 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, good work by them on that front. And also 306 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: just a reminder, Jose Alvarado is gonna come back, but 307 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: he can't pitch in the postseason. That's why getting someone 308 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: like this was so important too for the Phillies. And 309 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: this helps to solidify the bullpen one here on the 310 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: fills and then we'll transition to the Mets Krats. Anything 311 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: else left for the gun slinger Dave Dombrowski, he said 312 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: he's done on the bullpen front. You got two things left. 313 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 5: I would have said he needed one more in the bullpen. 314 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 5: That's saying that David Robertson is who David Robertson is. 315 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 3: I get it. 316 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 5: He said they're done on the bullpen front. But I 317 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 5: just I feel like, yes, you go Duran, you go Kirkering, 318 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 5: you go Matt Strom. We've seen plenty of teams when 319 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 5: the World Series the last two years? Do they have 320 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 5: only three guys? Is that all they have? Like it's 321 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 5: something that you wonder do you want to have that 322 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 5: fourth solid guy? Now, if they're done on the bullpen, 323 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 5: then to me, that means kind of what Jim said 324 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 5: earlier today, Maybe they'll go big. Maybe they'll go big 325 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 5: in the position player, because I think it's gonna take 326 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 5: something big to get a your Hitosuarez. All depends where 327 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 5: they feel. Like Alec Bohm is, do the Diamondbacks want 328 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 5: a would it be a bomb for Suarez type of yeah? 329 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: But more but absolutely more. 330 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 5: But I'm saying where they get a big league baseball 331 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 5: player to step in for next year in Bom, I think. 332 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: That's certainly possible for them. And we can cross off 333 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: two names that were potentially going for him, the Yankees 334 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: and the Reds. They got their third baseman. So now 335 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: you're probably down to four ish teams, right, Bubbs, Tigers, Phillies, Phillies, Mariners, Astros, Astros. 336 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: So five right, five teams and I'm sure someone will 337 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: tell us we're forgetting about someone in the comments, but 338 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: we love you. Let's get to the New York Metropolitans. 339 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: S n Y Inside covers the Yankees and the Mets. 340 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: Andy Martine joining us right now. Andy, thanks for the 341 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: time this evening, and wow, we had a big day 342 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: that we saw from the Metropolitans. So what do you 343 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: think about the return for them getting both rogers who 344 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: can do a lot of things out of the bullpen 345 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: and give them a variety that they're looking for. Plus 346 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: Ryan Helsley to go along with Edwin Diez for eight 347 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: to nine. That's special, not. 348 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 6: Bad in Gregory Soto last week. They've jumped the lefty 349 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 6: market there already. So yeah, the Mets have done quite 350 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 6: a bit to go all in on their bullpen and 351 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 6: gave up some prospects that hurt them a little bit, 352 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 6: guys that their player development people. 353 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 7: Liked in both deals today. 354 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 6: But what this tells you, I think is a couple 355 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 6: of things about David Stearns that you like if you're 356 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 6: a Mets fan, is that he is not one of 357 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 6: these gms. Despite the Harvard degree and the quarter zip 358 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 6: and the whole modern profile that he seemed the part 359 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 6: that he seems to play. 360 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 7: He's not one of these gms. 361 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 6: That is going to be overly cautious and probabilistic. He's 362 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 6: pushing some chips into the middle of the table here 363 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 6: and saying, yes, some of these guys might hurt me. 364 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 6: You've got the stuff up with the screen right now, Baiez, Dome, 365 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 6: Tidwell or three guys that could hurt to give up. 366 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 6: But the Mets understand that the next two years are 367 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 6: their best window to win a World Series for a 368 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 6: couple of reasons. One, Francisco Lindor and Brandon Nima aren't 369 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 6: getting any older, or excuse me, aren't getting any younger. 370 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 7: We're all getting older. 371 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 6: And you know, obviously Soto is in the core of 372 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 6: his prime right now, twenty six years old. Labor uncertainty 373 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 6: in twenty seven is a factor here, not just because 374 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 6: we don't know what that season is going to look like, 375 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 6: but because, for all the Mets know, there could be 376 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 6: new financial rules in place at that point that limit 377 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 6: Steve Cohen's ability to use his financial resources. That's a 378 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 6: whole other topic, but it's one of the things in 379 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 6: the mix that they're thinking about. So it's like, let's 380 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 6: go all in now, and it shows you that Stearns 381 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 6: has got that instinct to be a little bit of 382 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 6: a gambler rather than just that guy going well, Ryan 383 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 6: Helsley improves their playoff odds by three point six percent. 384 00:18:58,359 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 7: So do we really want to. 385 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 6: Give up eleven years of control? That's not what the 386 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 6: Mets are thinking like right now. 387 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: They're all in how much has changed with the Mets 388 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: farm system in the last few years. I mean, you see, well, 389 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: one of the guys that goes back in these deals 390 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: was was Drew Gilbert right in the in the that 391 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: was the earlier deal, the Rogers deal, who was acquired 392 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: in that justin Verlander trade? Right, So they did do 393 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: this like short reload to try and boost up their 394 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: farm system. So you know, you mentioned, yeah, it definitely hurts, 395 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: But how much better off was their farm system heading 396 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: into this season? And side question, how much does it 397 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: help for them to have this pitching development machine going 398 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: for them so that they can line and say, you 399 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: know what, we actually can grow some of these players here. 400 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 6: That's an on point question, Scott. The first one though, 401 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 6: they definitely have a solid farm system where they haven't 402 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 6: dealt any of their top guys and won't deal any 403 00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 6: of their top guys despite being all in. And Bill 404 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 6: Up deserves some credit for that because he went and 405 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 6: got Drew Gilbert. Steve Cohen too, because if you remember 406 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 6: that trade deadline, he ate a lot of money on 407 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 6: Burlander insures her to get prospects back. But a guy 408 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 6: like Gilbert becomes an asset that can either become an 409 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 6: outfielder for you down the line or a trade piece, 410 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 6: and obviously the Mets chose the latter, so that helps, 411 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 6: and they reloaded at that trade dot deadline under Eppler, 412 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 6: and then the pitching piece. Yeah, that's one hundred percent 413 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 6: what the Mets are thinking. They're good at developing pitchers. 414 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 6: They feel like they know how to do it, so 415 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 6: you can trade a guy like Blake Blade Tidwell, excuse 416 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 6: me who they do like? I mean, he projects is 417 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 6: probably a future reliever of a back end starter, so 418 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 6: you can part with a guy with that profile. But 419 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 6: still they're confident, to your point, Scott, that they can 420 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 6: develop the next guy. They can deplete a little from 421 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 6: their pitching and their system and still be able to 422 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 6: churn out pictures. Having said that, I see you're putting 423 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 6: up the tweet teas to my column right there. It's 424 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 6: like the first blush reaction in the industry. Was it 425 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 6: to that trade the giant's trade? Earlier today? Like I 426 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 6: was getting a lot of texts like this can't be real, right, 427 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 6: what the heck? 428 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 7: What you know? What the bleep? But what is this? 429 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 6: Because they gave up a lot of prospect capital, a 430 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 6: lot of years of control. But again it speaks to yeah, 431 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 6: relievers are expensive, but we're trying to win the World Series. 432 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 5: Or what because they've built a bullpen. Tell me if 433 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 5: I'm wrong, and they're doing it in the trade kind 434 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 5: of like the twenty twenty or twenty twenty one rays 435 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 5: where you got a lefty and Sodo coming from here, 436 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 5: ninety nine Ryan Hellsley over top Edwin Diaz over coming 437 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 5: from the side, and then you got Tyler Rogers. Is 438 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 5: that a Do you feel like it's a concerted effort 439 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 5: to have such unique profiles as pictures or was it 440 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 5: just we're collecting the best we can collect. 441 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 7: No, that's a good question. 442 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: Eric. 443 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 6: I can't claim to have asked that direct question to 444 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 6: David Stearns today, but there's no doubt that they mean 445 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 6: they think of everything and I thought of that too, 446 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 6: And sure I'm not. 447 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 7: Certainly we're not the only ones. 448 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 6: All the different looks, all the different arm angles, and 449 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 6: and that's gotta be. I mean, I've never I've never 450 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 6: been in a major league batter's box like two of 451 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 6: you have, but I can imagine that inning to inning 452 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 6: facing looks that are that different in a playoff game 453 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 6: or in any game has to be extra hard. 454 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 7: So for sure that that helps Andy. 455 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 3: What's next for the Mets? What else did they need? 456 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 3: I mean, they solidified their bullpen. Right with the three 457 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 3: trades they've made, what would be next for the Mets 458 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 3: wish list? 459 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 6: So I do think aja that they did a lot 460 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 6: of their heavy lifting today. Obviously they built this, this 461 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 6: terrific bullpen where they had a bullpen when we woke 462 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 6: up this morning that wasn't really ready for the postseason. 463 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 6: So having accomplished the thing that they needed to accomplish 464 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 6: to become World Series contenders, now they can do the 465 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 6: thing that they want to accomplish but isn't a need, 466 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 6: which is we'll try to lengthen the lineup a little bit. 467 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 6: Most likely place to do that is center field. They've 468 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 6: obviously been talking to the White Sox about the center 469 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 6: fielder that is the hottest commodity right now. They've talked 470 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,959 Speaker 6: to Mark Fiento, White talks about Mark Fiento's about Louis 471 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 6: and Helicunya. I made a call around eight thirty eight 472 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 6: forty five tonight, so about an hour ago, and nothing 473 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 6: was hot or imminent on any center field front, whether 474 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 6: it's Mullins or Robert Junior or anyone. But as when 475 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 6: they wake up tomorrow or maybe as they work into 476 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 6: the wee hours tonight, they could try to reignite at 477 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 6: centerfield talk. 478 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 7: But look, they understand that. 479 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 6: Center field would be better if Jeff McNeil weren't your 480 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 6: everyday center fielder in the playoffs. But they understand that 481 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 6: unlike where they were at with the bullpen, they can survive. 482 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 7: With McNeil in center. 483 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: Andy. The Met's had a nice little seven game win 484 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: streak recently, but they just ran into a Padres buds 485 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: and I know they don't generally play great over there, 486 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: and the Padres were playing up to the competition here. 487 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: Do you think that having a bad series like this 488 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: against San Diego and seeing there what foreheaded monster bullpen 489 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: and yet they're potentially still going after another one. Partially 490 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: sparked this from David Stearns, Like, like you mentioned we 491 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: got Soto, now, we picked up two other high leverage 492 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,239 Speaker 1: arms to go along with DZ plus Reed Garrett's had 493 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 1: a great year. Sanaos got Raelian Sodo. Like now, in 494 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: my mind, I'm looking at their pen on paper and 495 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, for a playoff bullpen, this is probably a 496 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: top three, if not at the worst, top five bullpen 497 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: in baseball. So did they take a page out of 498 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: San Diego's book here? 499 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 6: I'd probably not explicitly, Scott, because I know they identified 500 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 6: bullpen for a long time in weeks as they were 501 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 6: preparing for the deadline to like, you have to improve 502 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 6: the bullpen. But the Padres certainly give an example right 503 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 6: in front of their faces this week of why that's 504 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 6: so important for sure, and I agree with you. They 505 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 6: have a top playoff bullpen now and that's mission accomplished 506 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 6: for the trade deadline and it's not not even the 507 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 6: day of, so that's got to be a pretty good 508 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 6: feeling for them. 509 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: Andy, We appreciate the time, thanks for hopping on with 510 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: us this evening, and happy trade deadline Day two. You 511 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: coming up tomorrow. 512 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 7: All right, guys, thanks anytime. 513 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: Thank you. Make sure you check out Andy at Martino 514 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: NYC on Twitter. He's going to be on S and 515 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: Y of course, covering the deals that go down over 516 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: the next what is it now, fourteen hours something like that. 517 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: All right, So let's finish strong here, ft fan. We 518 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: got about five minutes to go. Two things to cover. 519 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 1: Number one. We did have another trade while we were 520 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: doing this. The Cubs get a starter, Mike Soroka, and 521 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: Cubs fans are thinking big and they need a guy 522 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: to start a playoff game for them. Is Mike Soroka, 523 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: that guy coming from the Nats. He's twenty seven years old, 524 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: He's got about a strikeout, printing close to a five 525 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: era and sixteen starts, right handed pitcher. Tough ballpark at times, 526 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: Nationals Park, No, no, no, Chicago could be tough. 527 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 3: Nationals Park isn't tough. 528 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: No Chicago could be tough. 529 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 3: This is what the Cubs fans were expecting. 530 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: But exactly right. 531 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 3: It's a depth peace for him. It's a death peace 532 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 3: for him. It's a death peace with you know, where 533 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 3: they're out in their rotation, with their starting rotation. It's 534 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 3: a death piece Horton. Kate Horton hasn't pitched as much ever, 535 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 3: Tian's banged up a little bit, right, and Monaga hasn't 536 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 3: been great because the last few starts. It's a depth 537 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:27,719 Speaker 3: peast for him. 538 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 5: It makes sense. 539 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, they already lost Steel, right, so it's a death 540 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 3: piece and if they need to, he can make him 541 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 3: into a swing guy. If they get to the postseason, 542 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 3: he can be a long, you know, three four inning 543 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 3: reliever if they need him something like that. 544 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: A lot of teams wanted him as a reliever in 545 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: the offseason, and the Nationals were like, we'll pay you 546 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: to be a starter, and he wants to be a starter. 547 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: But teams think he can really tick up. Didn't he 548 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: do that last year? I think it was And I 549 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: feel like I remember seeing him out of the bullpen 550 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: last year and his stuff was up like three miles 551 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: an hour out of the bullpen. So maybe that's another 552 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: piece for them. But Cubs fans are expecting something big. 553 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: They're expecting some big potentially two big things. I mean, 554 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: they can use they need another like a big game 555 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: starter and then Kratz maybe a bullpen piece, maybe a 556 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: third baseman. To me, I think it's the starter. I mean, 557 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: they need a starter. 558 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 5: They need they need Chota or Jamison to if not both, 559 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 5: to come back to form prime form by the playoffs. 560 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 5: But man, I think I get it that they're in 561 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 5: on third base. I just I wonder if I don't 562 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 5: care about the development of Matt Shaw. I just wonder 563 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 5: if this team's playing well, if what they do with him, 564 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 5: you send him down to Triple A. I guess if 565 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 5: you can get a Hinny Suarez, yes, but not if 566 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 5: it's just like a kind of replacement like they passed. 567 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 5: In my opinion, they passed on Alex Bregman in the offseason. 568 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 5: Maybe they never passed on them, maybe they never were 569 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 5: in in those sweepstakes. 570 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: They sent an offer, it just wasn't as big as 571 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: the other ones. 572 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 5: So they passed because they felt like they had Matt Shaw. 573 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 5: Now they've seen Matt Shaw. Are they happy with what 574 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 5: they have? 575 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: To me? 576 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 5: I think the starter is to play. 577 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: They have the defense or a very good defense from Shaw, right, 578 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: better than expected. 579 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 3: They thought he hit. They just thought you weren't sure 580 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 3: about his defense. 581 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: Been the reverse. Yeah, yeah, some people think and Wrigley 582 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 1: might not be kind for Soroka. He has been much 583 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: better two or fewer and runs in five of his 584 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: last six addings. But, like Aj mentioned, depth piece for 585 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: the Cubs at this point, we'll see what else they have. 586 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: And I mean they could have called up Owen Casey. 587 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: Just now for Ian Happ who hit the shelf, he 588 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: doesn't get called up. I think he's going to get 589 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: dealt or that could be the big piece they deal 590 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: with is pretty big profitect you mentioned him earlier. I 591 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: think if Ian Happ goes down and they think they're 592 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: keeping everyone, he maybe gets the call. They called it 593 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: ballisteros Who's who's gonna guess be more of the d 594 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: H kind of role for them. So we'll see everything's 595 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: about to change for them. So all right, let's finish 596 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,479 Speaker 1: strong here we have we have a little chart that 597 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: you sent me that they. 598 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 3: Need to build a statue of me in Minnesota. 599 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, can you read this too, because this 600 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: is going to go on the podcast later for the 601 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: listening crowd later, So can you just read or explain. 602 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 3: It's twenty two thousand and three off season. I was 603 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 3: traded to the Giants from the Twins for Joe Nathan Francisco, 604 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 3: Loriano and booth Bonzer. Joe Nathan went on to be 605 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 3: a Hall of Famer. For the Twins, Loriano had a 606 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 3: unbelievable career. For the Twins, they traded Francisco Loriano for 607 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 3: Eduardo Escobar and Pedro Hernandez, who I don't even know who. 608 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 3: That is the important part here is Eduardo Escobar, who 609 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 3: I then who then was trade who was traded from 610 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 3: the White Sox, who was my teammate for Lariano or 611 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 3: from from the Twins to the White Sox whatever. 612 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: White Twins. 613 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 3: Loriano was the Twins, they went back for each other, 614 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 3: so they were traded for each other. Then Eduardo Escobar 615 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 3: was traded from the Twins for Gabriel Maybe who cares. 616 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 3: Johan Durant was the main piece, so edwardo Oskebar was 617 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 3: traded for two guys in Duran Right. Then Durant was 618 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 3: traded for Mick Abel and Eduardo Tay. So twenty two 619 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 3: years later, I'm still helping the Twins. So Twins, build 620 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 3: me the statue. Build me the statue, okay, because I'm 621 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 3: still helping your team and I haven't been there in 622 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 3: over twenty years. So one of the best trades of 623 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 3: all time for the Twins was trading me away and 624 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 3: they got Joe Mauer is in the Hall of Fame 625 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 3: and the Giants. You know what they got, dippity nothing. 626 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: Well, they got you for one year. 627 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 3: And then they signed Mike BETHENI. How'd that go? 628 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 5: I think they just need to n they need to 629 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 5: put your statue in the Metrodome. That's where they need 630 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 5: to put your statue. 631 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 3: One of the few trades that Brian's Avian missed on, 632 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 3: not because I had a bad year either, but because 633 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 3: I beat him in arbitration and they told me I'd 634 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 3: only be there one year. But then I ended up 635 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 3: with the White Sox that won the world too, So 636 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 3: it worked out for everybody. 637 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: Six degrees of aj present. 638 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 3: It's still going because who knows later down the road, 639 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 3: make abone how you could be traded for something else. 640 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 3: So that came from Dustin Morris, the Twins crack pr guy. 641 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 3: That was pretty funny. 642 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: That's a really good chart. That's that's freaking crazy. It's crazy, right, Yeah, 643 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: that's crazy. That just went down tonight and you are 644 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: legit connected to it. You know. Sometimes they do the 645 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: degrees of separation where it's like this person faced this 646 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: person for one a. It's like these are direct trades 647 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: leading up to right now. That's that's good ship trade 648 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: deadline special for you. We're gonna get some rest. Okay, 649 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: this was a nice, fun thirty bonus show because we 650 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: had some big deals tonight. But one to six Eastern 651 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: for you tomorrow. We'll bring on a ton of guests. 652 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: We'll bring people on as moves go down. We'll give 653 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: good depth to every trade in terms of breaking it 654 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: down that happens. And I think there are going to 655 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: be a ton because most teams haven't done much yet, 656 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: starters haven't moved. There's still a reliever market there. There's 657 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: a few bats that should definitely get moved, like a 658 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: Gino Suarez. I would think Luis Robert, I would think 659 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: Cedric Mullins, Ryan O'Hearn. There's a lot to do tomorrow, 660 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: so get some rest. Everyone, We got a big day. 661 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: We'll see you then