WEBVTT - Ep. 58: Check Your Bugger Ducks at the Door

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<v Speaker 1>Can I just sad? You know what's worse than muskie

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<v Speaker 1>fishing all day and not catching any muskies? Uh? Must

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<v Speaker 1>fishing all night catching which I've done a bunch of folks,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sitting in like some taco bellboard room being like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get in on this sea boot salad market.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this an X files or a real story? I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard this before. I think it was squids though, or

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<v Speaker 1>like jelly like blobs people say to me all the time. Lands.

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<v Speaker 1>Your content cheers me up faster than the prozac guy

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<v Speaker 1>swipe from my aunt Rudi's Linnen closet. Good morning, degenerate anglers,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to Bent the Fishing podcast that has a

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<v Speaker 1>question for you today. How do you feel about making

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<v Speaker 1>a change? We fear change now I too fear change,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is part of life. And it's with a

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<v Speaker 1>sad heart that I have to inform you that this

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<v Speaker 1>will be ailes Nulty's last show. Boo boo this man, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this man, I deserve it. Sadly, Joe speaks the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>While I can't think of anything more appropriate to start

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<v Speaker 1>my send off episode than a Wayne's World clip. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>the same, the fact that this will be my last

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<v Speaker 1>episode as co host of this strange and layered show

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<v Speaker 1>leaves me. I mean, I'll be honest, I feel sad.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling sad. I know I'm the depressing guy on

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<v Speaker 1>this show. Like that's kind of my beat. But this

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<v Speaker 1>one is, this is this is gonna be hard for me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well me too. And look, we know this is abrupt

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<v Speaker 1>right to to you the listen to you all, but

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<v Speaker 1>but this is also it's also kind of life, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's just how shit happens. It's where you get

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<v Speaker 1>six months of bailout notice from anybody in any gig. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But while the thought of you leaving like gives me

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<v Speaker 1>the bubble guts, you're leaving meat eater for a cool

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<v Speaker 1>gig and I am, I am truly happy for you. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And as I recall, you're taking over is what the

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<v Speaker 1>creative director of Salt life. And while I guiding on

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<v Speaker 1>the side, you're close, You're actually really close. I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna spearhead a new spinoff that we're calling Soggy Sock Life.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna be big, real big. It's huge.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good no for all the for all the time

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<v Speaker 1>that you have invested in the show and listening to

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<v Speaker 1>me drown on about fish kills and conservation efforts, you

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<v Speaker 1>all deserve to know why one of the hosts is

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<v Speaker 1>abandoning his post. The fact is that both Joe and

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<v Speaker 1>I married women who are smarter and more successful than

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<v Speaker 1>we are. Absolutely, it's one of the many things we

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<v Speaker 1>have in common. And why as pissed as he is,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know you were pissed, I also know that

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<v Speaker 1>you can relate to my decision. Joe. My wife. My

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<v Speaker 1>wife was recently awarded a fellowship based in New Zealand,

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<v Speaker 1>and as supportive as she has been of my I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you could call it a career. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a huge This is a huge opportunity for her and

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<v Speaker 1>for her career, and it means that our family gets

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<v Speaker 1>to move there eventually, assuming anyone's ever allowed to travel

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<v Speaker 1>to New Zealand. Again. Yeah, well, I know you got

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<v Speaker 1>that hurdle will get over. But like New Zealand, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't that they're a huge trout that you catch once

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<v Speaker 1>a month. Isn't that how it works there? They're like

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<v Speaker 1>really hard that I've heard that. Yeah, anyway, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is true. I am pissed at you, but I

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<v Speaker 1>also know that your wife is smarter than you. We

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<v Speaker 1>can at least agree on those two points. But the

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<v Speaker 1>real question remains, right, what happens to Bent? And the

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<v Speaker 1>answer is nothing. Ben isn't going away. Bent presses on.

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<v Speaker 1>But because I'm a believer in honesty and transparency with

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<v Speaker 1>our valued listeners, I want to tell you straight up,

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<v Speaker 1>ship might get a little jankie around here for a while. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>just be just gonna like, where where have we been

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<v Speaker 1>for the past year? We work really hard to come

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<v Speaker 1>across this jankie. Actually a lot goes in and we do,

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<v Speaker 1>so much goes into the jak oh. I have put

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<v Speaker 1>Joe in a very unenviable position. Um, sorry, man, you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're You're gonna scramble a bit. It's happened before. But

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<v Speaker 1>if anyone can pull it off and keep the show going,

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<v Speaker 1>it's you. As you know, I feel I feel conflict,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel some shame, I feel guilt, I feel sadness.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know New Zealand man, Yeah, I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I take New Zealand over myself any day of the week, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I ain't mad at Jeremy. You know that but

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<v Speaker 1>the fact of the matter is this is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a two man gig and we love it and we've

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<v Speaker 1>been having just an absolute blast putting this together. But

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<v Speaker 1>to do what we do takes discipline, right. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to be each other's wingman to crank out these segments

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<v Speaker 1>and stay on top of your ship. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like when when Goose objects into the canopy, like Maverick

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<v Speaker 1>might need a minute to get her flying straight and

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<v Speaker 1>true again. Just you know, he's got to compose himself.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna tell Meg Ryan, he's got to make peace

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<v Speaker 1>with ice man decide if Cougar is good enough to

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<v Speaker 1>have more than two lines a month. It's a freaking

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<v Speaker 1>process anyway, you hate it, is what I've done. How

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<v Speaker 1>in the hell did Anthony Edwards get Meg Ryan? That

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't make any sense. Like whoever cast that was out

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<v Speaker 1>of their frigging mind. And Meg Ryan, if you're listening,

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<v Speaker 1>how you tortured my young self? Thank you for everything?

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<v Speaker 1>Who I see, who am I going to have to

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<v Speaker 1>talk Meg Ryan with? Because she was super good looking

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<v Speaker 1>and Joe verst about you know what I mean? And

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<v Speaker 1>like she was so witty and smart in in when

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<v Speaker 1>Harry met Sally like she was. She was all the things,

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<v Speaker 1>all the things. Um. Anyway, man, I'm sorry for bailing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who you're gonna find a talk Meg

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan with you, but I'm sure you'll find somebody. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't envy you, but you're you're to be okay, Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe in the show. I believe in the concept

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<v Speaker 1>most of all, I believe in you, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>you have a plan. Yeah, sort of, sort of. We're

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<v Speaker 1>We're lucky that we have so many regular contributors to

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<v Speaker 1>lean on, right, people, you guys have come to know

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<v Speaker 1>and enjoy on the show. Um, so some guest hosts

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<v Speaker 1>might be in order for a while. I'm still working

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<v Speaker 1>out the bugs of this whole mess you've created. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>But what I can tell you guys is that while

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<v Speaker 1>I can't promise some things won't be a little different,

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<v Speaker 1>at least for a bit, I'm gonna do my best

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<v Speaker 1>to maintain the core values and ethos of the Bent Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>And no joke, I could actually use your input, right,

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<v Speaker 1>You guys have never been shy about telling us what

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<v Speaker 1>you like and don't like on this on this show,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is sort of a semi blank canvas right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to have a full time co host. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's the long term goal. But your shoes are

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<v Speaker 1>big shoes to fill, no joke, like, that's that's the truth. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>This show, like I said, takes work, dedication requires the

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<v Speaker 1>right person. But hey, at the same time, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>all tell me, like Bob the garbage man should just

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<v Speaker 1>be the co host or maybe someone else filling in

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<v Speaker 1>a temporary slot just really resonates, shout it out like

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<v Speaker 1>you might kind of sort of have some sway, is

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying here. You've always kind of had some sway.

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<v Speaker 1>You've always sort of kind of had some sway, and

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<v Speaker 1>that continues even with the big change. The other thing

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<v Speaker 1>is Joe and I don't we don't know every We

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<v Speaker 1>do a lot of people. We don't know everybody, and

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<v Speaker 1>we definitely don't listen to every fishing podcast out there. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we have talked about some folks, we have discussed this. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we we've kicked around ideas for who might be able

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<v Speaker 1>to hang full time. But they're very well could be

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<v Speaker 1>someone else that you listeners I think might be perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>And if so, email their name, address, and social Security

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<v Speaker 1>number to the Bent Email let Joe know, so he

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<v Speaker 1>can run a background check and make sure they have

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<v Speaker 1>the minimum number of misdemeanors on their record. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, though, I am gonna have to ask you

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<v Speaker 1>to please turn in all your thirteen Fishing deans and

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<v Speaker 1>turos though, because I'm not I'm not even sure donkey

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<v Speaker 1>saw us is legal in New Zealand. But regardless, I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of need those because thirteen Fishing is still kind

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<v Speaker 1>of our sponsor, and now I kind of can't lean

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<v Speaker 1>on you to tell us how many gold eyes you're

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<v Speaker 1>whacking on their coconut crab, which sounds tropical but it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually a super sweet, little soft plastic design for ice fish.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a good one, and you I'm keeping the coconut crabs. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll work something out. You can have the big squirms

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<v Speaker 1>every other weekend or something. We'll we'll work a deal,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're not taking my coconut crabs anyway. Enough sad

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<v Speaker 1>sack ship. Let's get back to doing what we do best.

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<v Speaker 1>One last time. You probably have questions. I know Joe

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<v Speaker 1>has been questioning himself while losing sleep at night. I

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<v Speaker 1>know I have been questioning every single life choice I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever made while not even trying to pretend to sleep

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<v Speaker 1>at night. But the show must go on, and here

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<v Speaker 1>we go. Recently we both sat down to fire some

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<v Speaker 1>questions at our buddy and culinary rock star brad Leyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do trivia. You gotta be highly skilled for these shows.

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<v Speaker 1>You understand that you well versed? Day are you very smart? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>All right back with us today, chef extraordinary Buddy brad

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<v Speaker 1>Leone to play trivia. How are you my friend? Good?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you boys, thanks for having me once again. Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>right on, right on. So we're gonna do We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do a tribute today. You've been on before for covering Water,

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<v Speaker 1>which is our rapid fire peppering of questions, um segment.

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<v Speaker 1>This is more. We're gonna do bar room style today,

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<v Speaker 1>like this is multiple choice, um, you know, barroom trivial

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<v Speaker 1>pursuits style where we get really thoughtful. Yeah. And the

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<v Speaker 1>beauty of our trivia there's there's there's nothing. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>win anything. We don't have any prizes. I never win

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<v Speaker 1>any anything, guys, so don't worry about that. You know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people have come on and been like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm terrible of this, and they they a sar. So

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<v Speaker 1>I always try and do my best when I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>charge of tribute to like really tailor these questions to

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<v Speaker 1>the people that we have on. So I'm definitely going

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<v Speaker 1>more more culinary, but sticking to fish here. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll fire him up, man, We'll see, We'll see how

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<v Speaker 1>you do. We'll see how how I did and how

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<v Speaker 1>we So if you're ready, here's question number one. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So we've talked on this very show before about fugu,

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<v Speaker 1>which some of our listeners will recall, is the puffer

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<v Speaker 1>fish which contains a shipload of poisonous tetrodotoxin which can

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<v Speaker 1>seriously mess you up, if not kill you, which is

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<v Speaker 1>why only master chefs in Japan are allowed to clean

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<v Speaker 1>and prepare this delicacy. Okay, So, however, after a five

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<v Speaker 1>year battle with the Food and Drug Administration, Renown New

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<v Speaker 1>York City chef Nobyashu Karaka was granted permission to import

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<v Speaker 1>fugu to serve at his restaurant. Since then, how many

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<v Speaker 1>other restaurants in the United States have been granted permission

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<v Speaker 1>by the f d A to serve FuGO. Is it

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<v Speaker 1>a zero, B, sixteen C or D four? That's a good,

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<v Speaker 1>great question, Joe, thank you, thank you, good job. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, I'm blushing. You got Sometimes my questions are terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Think my gut answer wants to be zero, but I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like maybe it's too obvious, but it's very U

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<v Speaker 1>s d A. Uh. It's either zero or like sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>or something like you said, let's go let's go zero. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>you were better off with the sixteen the answer at

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<v Speaker 1>last count, including his restaurant their seventeen restaurants United States

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<v Speaker 1>that can serve fugu and interestingly twelve of the seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>or New York City. Alright, blew it? You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean? It was either like shut it down or

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<v Speaker 1>like listen, we like making money to you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>like I should have went with the money. I assume.

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<v Speaker 1>I assume obviously you've probably never prepared it. But have

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<v Speaker 1>you eaten it? No? I have neither. Would you like

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<v Speaker 1>is that interest you or is that like a tasting

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<v Speaker 1>it or preparing it? Tasting it? Yeah? I would taste it.

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<v Speaker 1>You just have to really trust dude who's given it

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<v Speaker 1>to you. Yeah. I would have to go somewhere where

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<v Speaker 1>it was like you know, I was whoever brought me

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<v Speaker 1>there was like yeah, listen, like this is like chef

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah, and like this is like this is

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<v Speaker 1>legit like and then he was like hey, like it

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<v Speaker 1>was like Indonedian there, and like you know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone was on board with that, his credentials, his

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<v Speaker 1>official food cutting Garden Circle. Okay, fu yeah, your Betty's

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<v Speaker 1>Backyard d I y food. You're like, yeah, no, it's

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<v Speaker 1>good man, I got it. What's the YouTube video? I

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<v Speaker 1>totally got It's funny you bring up seven eleven fougu though,

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<v Speaker 1>because it'll lead right into my next question, which the

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<v Speaker 1>product of this one could also make you very sick.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know when I had you one before. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're not a big fast food guy. But think

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<v Speaker 1>of this more as a pop culture question and a

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<v Speaker 1>fast food guy because people love to talk about discontinued

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<v Speaker 1>fast food, like the Wapparrito and the Wendy's Superbar. Like

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<v Speaker 1>what you don't, guys remember the Wapparrito? Who made it?

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<v Speaker 1>The burger King Burrito, the burger King Brito? When did

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<v Speaker 1>this happen? Look this ship up online. There was McDonald's,

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<v Speaker 1>p Pizza, Wendy's Super there was all. There's all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of fast foods that have come and gone. Spaghetti they

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<v Speaker 1>did spaghetti for This is a real thing. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a real thing, but so so because no, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't born for the spaghetti. I never had an opperrito.

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<v Speaker 1>I passed on the Burger King yumbo. But anyway, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to keep this semi fishy. So here's the question.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me which of the following is not is not

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<v Speaker 1>a legitimate discontinued fast food item? So one of these

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<v Speaker 1>is fake? Is it a Taco bells seafood salad? Be

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<v Speaker 1>the McDonald's mc Lobster, c KFC's fish Snacker or d

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<v Speaker 1>Sonics Cajun crab Tots. Dude, it's got to be the

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<v Speaker 1>fish shall come on? Do you think do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that's the fake one? Sad? If that's not fake? And

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<v Speaker 1>I about like I've done with them, like, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>your answer talking about product that is totally legit though,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a real one. To let me get sad salad

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<v Speaker 1>in what country? The United States of America? I actually

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<v Speaker 1>have backstory. But before we get to the backstory, miles

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<v Speaker 1>any on the fake one, what's the fake one? Tell

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<v Speaker 1>me it's the Sonic crab Tots. That's the fake one.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the one that's pretty good though. I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was good. That was good. That's their best that they're

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably the best idea of all. Like, hey, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>you can have it, like if you want to, you

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<v Speaker 1>have the power to go to Sonic and be like

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do brad Leyonis Cajun Crab Tots signature series.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I just want to find these. So here's a

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<v Speaker 1>little So here's uh that I don't know. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a very short right up, But here's a quick backstory.

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<v Speaker 1>H The Taco Bell seafood salad went out very fast

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<v Speaker 1>because a whole shipload of people got food poisoning from that. Okay, Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The McDonald's mclobster that was available in Canada and it

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<v Speaker 1>claimed to be fresh caught main lobster, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>so dirt cheap that it made people skeptical. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>how can you possibly be serving me fresh lobster on

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<v Speaker 1>a bun for like four dollars? So that didn't last

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<v Speaker 1>in My favorite, the KFC Fishnacker, was created a boost

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<v Speaker 1>sales for Catholics during Lent and when it was released

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<v Speaker 1>in the early two thousand's. The CEO famously asked the

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<v Speaker 1>Pope to bless the sandwich, and the request was denied.

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<v Speaker 1>The Pope was like, I'm not blessing the KFC fish.

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<v Speaker 1>Snecker sprised, what what what part? What are the what

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<v Speaker 1>are those things? So many of those things could have

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<v Speaker 1>surprised you. Which of those layers did you fund? Surprising

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<v Speaker 1>the Pope? I would have I would have thought he

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<v Speaker 1>would have been like, yeah, I support this ship. I

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<v Speaker 1>want more people to be Catholic, so yeah, whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>takes KFC. He wouldn't even accept the sandwich. He wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>even like try the sandwich, not a little blessed. But

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<v Speaker 1>I did. So this was this was a fun trivia.

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<v Speaker 1>This was good. And my challenge to you, Brad would

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<v Speaker 1>be you need you need to research that and like

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<v Speaker 1>figure out what it was and then make a good

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<v Speaker 1>version of that for us. Like I just can't get

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<v Speaker 1>over the seafood salad from Taco Bell, Like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people couldn't get over it. That's why they threw

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<v Speaker 1>it back up and ship it back out after they

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<v Speaker 1>ate it. And that went away. Man, I mean two

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<v Speaker 1>things Taco Bell is known to do well seafood and salads. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, man, I'm just blown away like a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of folks, you know, probably men, probably white guys,

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in like some Taco Bell board room, being like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get in on this seafood salad market,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like it's just that's that's that's wild, that's wild.

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<v Speaker 1>I should have known. I'm terrible. I told you I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want anything. Not so long ago I mentioned I

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<v Speaker 1>have not eaten Taco Bell and fifteen years. Remember this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the regular like on menu food does not really appeal

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<v Speaker 1>to me in any way. So Taco Bells seafood salad

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<v Speaker 1>that that's actually nauseating to me, the thought of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it is, but it's about to get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot worse. Like you think you're nauseous. Now just wait,

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<v Speaker 1>because I might have tipped off a certain contributor about

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<v Speaker 1>your upcoming departure, and while I didn't ask him to

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<v Speaker 1>record anything for the occasion, he kind of insisted. And

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<v Speaker 1>at this point I can't afford to lose any more contributors,

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<v Speaker 1>so I need to keep this person happy, That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Of course you are, of course you are,

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<v Speaker 1>and I I don't believe for a second, because I

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<v Speaker 1>know who this is. I'm sure I do. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe for a second that you didn't know you insisted

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<v Speaker 1>on him recording something for this. Yes you did, Yes

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<v Speaker 1>you did. You're getting back at me, and and it's

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<v Speaker 1>my last day and you know aren't. Last day is

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be kind of like a cruise easy day.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that we're supposed to do. No, No, I will

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<v Speaker 1>not make this easy on you. We remain friends always,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not gonna make this like a fun cherry sendoff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy for you and all, but also, like Hugh Man,

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<v Speaker 1>just you know that's fair, That's that's fair, and I

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<v Speaker 1>get it. But come, you couldn't just like just have

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<v Speaker 1>Bob break me for a while and you can come

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<v Speaker 1>in and yellow yell at Niles. You have to make

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<v Speaker 1>me suffer through the worst part of the show. The

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<v Speaker 1>worst thing we've ever done is like, this is like

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<v Speaker 1>asking the custodian to toilet duck the men's room one

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<v Speaker 1>last time on the way out. Can't we just awkwardly

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<v Speaker 1>stand around the break room with cupcakes and lukewarm beers

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty minutes and have Steve tell everyone to get

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<v Speaker 1>back to work and call it good like everybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>Consider this the awkward break room farewell address delivered by

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<v Speaker 1>none other than Mr Lance V. To the boats, to

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<v Speaker 1>the like, to the sea, getting up the net. Job

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<v Speaker 1>all lad, what's up as clowns. It's me, the Internet's

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<v Speaker 1>most significant celebrity Angler Lance Fee. I know you've been

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<v Speaker 1>dying for my next segment because you just can't absorb

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<v Speaker 1>enough of my truth nuggets into that dollar store kitchen

0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:21.040
<v Speaker 1>sponge you call a brain. But this time it's not

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<v Speaker 1>about me. I'm here to give a proper send off

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<v Speaker 1>to my biggest fan of supporter, Miles Nulty, since he's

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<v Speaker 1>walking away from this hot garbage from what I assume

0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:33.760
<v Speaker 1>will be just another pile of trash. But don't worry,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's still a lesson to be learned from my

0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:39.240
<v Speaker 1>top three reasons this shitty show will be less shitty

0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:42.560
<v Speaker 1>with Miles gone. Hashtag I've been waiting for this hashtag

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the loser now? Nw merrow one oh insta hate.

0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:53.520
<v Speaker 1>The fact is your Instagram account is your resume these days.

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<v Speaker 1>This has been proven by scientists like Elon Musk and

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<v Speaker 1>every person then hosts a show on the Vice Network.

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<v Speaker 1>But unfortunately for Miles, is education stopped at MySpace Community College.

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<v Speaker 1>He hates social media, but now the joke's on him

0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:09.840
<v Speaker 1>because his weak ass social resume isn't going to impress

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<v Speaker 1>anyone beyond the night manager at Chili's hashtag Hi, my

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<v Speaker 1>name is Miles? Can I start you guys off with

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<v Speaker 1>a blooming onion number? Does deep sigh? No one likes

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<v Speaker 1>people with deep voices. People with deep voices only conjure

0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:29.679
<v Speaker 1>bad memories of my mom's boyfriend when I was in

0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:32.359
<v Speaker 1>the third grade and guidance counselors that say ship like

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you come back when you decide that you care?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's a coincidence that the Google squad

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<v Speaker 1>kicks members out when they hit puber day, It's not.

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<v Speaker 1>I could be nice and tell Miles which vocal coats

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<v Speaker 1>me and John be used to keep our voices at

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<v Speaker 1>the same octave as Justin Bieber's, But I won't. Hashtag

0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:52.520
<v Speaker 1>you should have been nicer to me, asshole Numero trace

0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:57.600
<v Speaker 1>a reno death blows. People say to me all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Lance your content cheers me up faster than the prozac

0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:04.040
<v Speaker 1>guy swiped from my aunt Trudy's linen closet. Of course

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<v Speaker 1>it does. People want to see me grinning in my

0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:09.600
<v Speaker 1>hashtag goocchiese while hogs are getting roped, toads are getting jacked,

0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:12.320
<v Speaker 1>and donkeys are getting punched. But you can't jack a

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<v Speaker 1>dead toad, now, can you. Miles interest During pretty much

0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:19.320
<v Speaker 1>every stupid news segment, while Myles was drabbing on about

0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:22.680
<v Speaker 1>hashtag red tied and hashtags saved the whatever, the entreaties

0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:24.800
<v Speaker 1>of the world were wondering why there's old off bottles

0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:29.639
<v Speaker 1>suddenly felt lighter, So that's it. Hashtag by Felicia in

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<v Speaker 1>case and of you are wondering, Yes, I'm in talks

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<v Speaker 1>with Beat Meters to become the new full time co host,

0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:36.520
<v Speaker 1>but only if they're willing to change the name to

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<v Speaker 1>ben over by lands Fade. But really, they'd have to

0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:42.560
<v Speaker 1>sell a lot more lemon pepper and telescopes to ever

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<v Speaker 1>afford me. Hashtags by say, I'm not going to miss him.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that the power is unilaterally in your hands, I

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<v Speaker 1>one last time implore you to finally, once and for all,

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<v Speaker 1>fire that mother. It's not your call, though, Nulty, you

0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:05.040
<v Speaker 1>gave up those rights and privileges the day you put

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<v Speaker 1>in your notice. Um, I might just make him co

0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:09.960
<v Speaker 1>host out of spite. Um. And you know what else,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to throw down with you one last time

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<v Speaker 1>in that weekly dead fish laden segment we call fish

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<v Speaker 1>News fish News. That escalated quickly. So this is it.

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<v Speaker 1>It is it, It is it, This is it. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the right here right now, both cheeks, both lips,

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<v Speaker 1>the final you versus me monoa mono fish news battle.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, I haven't prepared any better than

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<v Speaker 1>I normally would have. No, No, that's not true. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not true. No, that's what I'm saying. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think we need to go into this with a different attitude.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what I'm picturing. It's you and me and we're

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<v Speaker 1>like face to face in the center of the dirt

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<v Speaker 1>circle of a Roman. I will see him right the winner.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll walk away bloodied but victorious, and the loser feeds

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<v Speaker 1>the lions. That's what I want you to picture right now. Okay,

0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:14.320
<v Speaker 1>the stakes are high, is what I'm saying. This really

0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:16.520
<v Speaker 1>matters this. I think Phil is actually gonna listen to

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<v Speaker 1>it for once. He may listen to it this time. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so clearly this is still a competition. Obviously to the

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<v Speaker 1>bitter end, we do not know which news stories the

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<v Speaker 1>other person has has brought to the table. So um man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's your last one and it's also your lead is

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<v Speaker 1>done here still the chocolate to our cheese to reference

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<v Speaker 1>a ween, Altu will pass judgment on both of us

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<v Speaker 1>together one last time, take it away, and the loser

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<v Speaker 1>will shed a tear for Eddie. Alright, So I I

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<v Speaker 1>am going to shamelessly pander this time because the stakes

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<v Speaker 1>are so I'm a pander to the masses and hope

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<v Speaker 1>that Phil takes mercy on me. Right. Record stories are

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<v Speaker 1>two phishing podcasts as a Grip and Grins are to Instagram. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And because I have not done a record round up

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<v Speaker 1>in many months, I will begin there. I have three

0:24:13.320 --> 0:24:16.239
<v Speaker 1>recently certified fish records to tell you about, two of

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:22.600
<v Speaker 1>which involve estock specimens in Minnesota that were released. We

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:26.560
<v Speaker 1>try to we try to balance harvest and and and release.

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<v Speaker 1>On the show I Fish, You Eat Fish. We both

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<v Speaker 1>kill fish, but we're thoughtful about it. We're thoughtful about

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<v Speaker 1>what we kill and what we release. Generally speaking, releasing

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<v Speaker 1>large mature fish benefits the broader population and that's especially

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<v Speaker 1>true for slow growing apex predators like pike and muskie.

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<v Speaker 1>This summer, Minnesota broke or met the state catch and

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<v Speaker 1>release records for both of these species, and though totally anecdotal,

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<v Speaker 1>I think this suggests that management efforts and catch and

0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:02.560
<v Speaker 1>release ethics for these fish is working. Well. Sure, that's

0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:05.280
<v Speaker 1>that's the general trend, and we're seeing a bear out.

0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:09.520
<v Speaker 1>So if you like big toothy fish and live in

0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:14.200
<v Speaker 1>the Gopher State, you're living the good old days. Enjoy them.

0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:17.919
<v Speaker 1>Brecon Koballecki is definitely living his good old days. But

0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 1>since he's only fifteen years old, he probably doesn't know

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:22.560
<v Speaker 1>that yet. He doesn't know what a good day is yet.

0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:27.959
<v Speaker 1>He's yet not yet. On June, Brecon caught a forty

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:32.440
<v Speaker 1>six and a quarter inch northern pike. Now just take

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:36.000
<v Speaker 1>a second and let that sink in. A fifteen year

0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:39.960
<v Speaker 1>old caught a northern pike over forty six inches in

0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:42.720
<v Speaker 1>the lower forty eight states this year. I was gonna

0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:44.639
<v Speaker 1>say that I've done forty six but I had to

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:47.119
<v Speaker 1>go to the Tippity Top of Saskatchewan to do it.

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:51.480
<v Speaker 1>So that's impressive exactly. And as I peer out my

0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:55.240
<v Speaker 1>window through wildfire smokes so thick that I can't see

0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:58.280
<v Speaker 1>the nearby mountains, causing air quality so bad that my

0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:03.400
<v Speaker 1>kid isn't supposed to play outside. I'm smiling. It may

0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:10.640
<v Speaker 1>look like it may look and feel like the dust

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:13.000
<v Speaker 1>cloud kicked up by the four horsemen is growing thick

0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:15.879
<v Speaker 1>enough to obscure the sun itself. But all cannot be

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:18.680
<v Speaker 1>lost if pike like that still swim in our waters.

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:22.600
<v Speaker 1>When I was a kid, a thirty inch pike in

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 1>that latitude was a cause for celebration. Brecon's fish could

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 1>eat a thirty inch pike, and best of all, she's

0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:34.080
<v Speaker 1>still swimming alright. So Brecon and his dad were on

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:37.440
<v Speaker 1>vacation in Elie, Minnesota, and they had hired a guide

0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:39.560
<v Speaker 1>for the day to take them fishing. Their day was

0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 1>nearly over, and with just ten minutes left before heading

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:43.880
<v Speaker 1>back to the dock, they hooked up on the pike

0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 1>while trolling. The fish bests the previous record by exactly

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 1>one inch. While there are some aspects of the story

0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 1>that feel reminiscent of your your recent reporting on Michigan's

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:57.280
<v Speaker 1>new record Chinook, namely that it was caught by a

0:26:57.280 --> 0:27:00.720
<v Speaker 1>teenager while trolling. The kid who caught. This fish does

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:04.479
<v Speaker 1>not seem like a disinterested gen Z meat puppet with

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 1>no appreciation for what just happened to him. You are

0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 1>bringing it, Breckon told local reporters, quote, the whole experience

0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:14.920
<v Speaker 1>went by in a flash. But it was the experience

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:17.760
<v Speaker 1>of a lifetime. I'll never forget. And even though he

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:20.040
<v Speaker 1>was just speaking in platitudes because he was talking to reporters,

0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:23.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't care. Congratulations Breckon, Yeah, man, that's a that's

0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 1>an insane fish for the lower fore and and and

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 1>don't expect that to ever happen again. Just down the

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:33.680
<v Speaker 1>road from Elis Lake for a million, which has a

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:37.399
<v Speaker 1>very well earned reputation for growing huge muskies, which is

0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 1>why Todd Kirby went fishing there with a few friends,

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 1>just ahead of an incoming front and had one of

0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:45.920
<v Speaker 1>those nights that make other musky anglers seethed with jealousy.

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:50.199
<v Speaker 1>He told local reporters quote, that Friday night, we were

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:52.640
<v Speaker 1>up against the weather. There was a huge storm front

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 1>moving through, creating extremely unstable conditions. The humidity was high

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 1>and storm clouds were building. It was one of those

0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 1>nights that the fish seemed to be super active. Our

0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 1>boat had multiple chases, one resulting in a forty eight

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 1>inch fish in the net at that time, my personal best.

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 1>At ten thirty, his lure got hit again and he

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:16.720
<v Speaker 1>broke his personal best for the second time in just

0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:20.680
<v Speaker 1>a couple of hours. In spectacular fashion. The fish taped

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 1>out at fifty seven and a quarter inches, tying the

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 1>standing catch and release muskie record for Minnesota, which was

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 1>also set on Lake for a Million in two thousand nineteen.

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 1>We are all very happy for Todd. Actually that's not true.

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 1>We all kind of hate Todd, but we are happy

0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 1>to know that trophy pike and muskie are alive and

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 1>well in Minnesota. Can I just can I just sad?

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 1>You know what's worse than musky fishing all day and

0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 1>not catching any muskies? Uh, musky fishing all night and

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:52.960
<v Speaker 1>not catching which I've done. I've done. I've gone out

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 1>there specifically to be like, oh, nighttime, musty fishing. I

0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 1>love night fishing. That was awful. That was awful because

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 1>like everything else goes to bed, like so you're not

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:07.320
<v Speaker 1>there's no bycatcher, and it's like this is terrible. I

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 1>am cold and we've eaten all the jerky hours ago.

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 1>But good for him. That to hell of a fish,

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 1>so someone's got to do it kind of you, And yeah,

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 1>good for him. And we also have to appreciate that

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:21.479
<v Speaker 1>Todd's fish was caught casting, not trolling. Let's give him

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 1>that to dude. There you go. Yep. But probably my

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:30.600
<v Speaker 1>favorite part of this story was Todd's description of the

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 1>fight to the media. He said, quote, I compare it

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 1>to really get a large moving log. After a few

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 1>dark splashes, she was in the net. Now. I don't

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 1>know this. This might support your theory that fish don't

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 1>fight as well at night. Uh, But either way, I

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 1>love the fact that Todd was honest, right, he didn't

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 1>try to invent some heroic Hemingway esque battle to play

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 1>up his trophy. When the media asked him, he was like, yep,

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 1>it just came in like a long that's what happened. Well, dude,

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, I of him a lot of

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 1>credit for saying that, because and this is not taken

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 1>away anything from musky dudes, because I appreciate what you

0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 1>all do. But you don't catch a muskie for the

0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 1>drag ripping fight, right you, Like most guys, it's heavy gear.

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:13.640
<v Speaker 1>You want that fish in the bag right away. It's

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 1>the eat, right It's like the figure eight and the

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 1>boatside eat and the swipe and all that. But he's like,

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 1>I've never caught a musky at night, as I've just

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 1>told you. But that is truly no bullshit. Like I

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 1>love mouson for browns. You know, um, they don't they

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they're just like super confused and

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:32.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know what's going on because it's dark when they

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 1>get stuck. But they do not fight nearly as well

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 1>at night. I don't fight nearly as well night either.

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Well you got you got a good point. But good

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 1>on him for not making that out to be some

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 1>epic battle because they get it. And all. This brings

0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 1>me to the final record in this week's record roundup,

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 1>which was caught by Dr Bob Timpson off the coast

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:58.680
<v Speaker 1>of North Carolina and also didn't put up much of

0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 1>a fight. Dr Timpson and some friends were grouper fishing

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 1>with local guide Captain Hiroke Tilma in two hundred fift

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:08.680
<v Speaker 1>of water, and while all his buddies were catching grouper,

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Dr Timpson was getting hosed over the course of the morning.

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:16.240
<v Speaker 1>He had only brought in a greater soap fish and

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 1>a spotted scorpion fish. Now, I for one would have

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 1>been pretty pumped about the scorpion fish, but he was not,

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:27.040
<v Speaker 1>and I get it. They were after grouper. Apparently Dr

0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Timpson was getting frustrated about his inability to catch the

0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:33.960
<v Speaker 1>target species and decided to change tactics. One of the grouper,

0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 1>caught by another angler on the boat, coughed up a

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 1>relatively intact crab after coming over the rail, and Timpson

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 1>snatched the crab off the deck, put it on his

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:45.720
<v Speaker 1>hook and dropped it down, figuring the crab had already

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 1>been munched by a grouper and might improve his chances,

0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 1>and he was right kind of. The crab got eaten

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 1>soon after hitting bottom and Timpson had a fish on

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 1>the line, but once again it wasn't a grouper. The

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 1>bright orange, topical looking specimen came to the service pretty

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:04.760
<v Speaker 1>quickly and no one in the boat, including the captain,

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 1>had any idea what it was. They initially guessed it

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 1>to be a parrot fish, which is technically possible in

0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 1>north I looked it up. They have been seen as

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 1>far north as Maryland, but highly unlikely. Carl there's not

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:26.720
<v Speaker 1>a whole ton of car all up there exactly. So

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 1>they kept it, and when they got back into service,

0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 1>they did a quick Google search and identified it as

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 1>a Spanish hog fish, at which point they also realized

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 1>that the fish they had on board was far larger

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:42.560
<v Speaker 1>than any of the examples they saw on the internet.

0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Happy happy accident. Ye. In fact, they discovered the world

0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 1>record for Spanish hog fish weighed just one pound eight ounces.

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 1>When they finally got to a certified scale, the fish

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 1>that Dr Timpson had only recently bemoaned as unwanted bycatch

0:32:57.560 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 1>that fought like a discarded prophylactic shattered the world record

0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 1>for Spanish hog fish by more than a pound. Wow,

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:10.720
<v Speaker 1>good for him, Good for him. As great as that is,

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:14.240
<v Speaker 1>it's also like, if not for the Internet, they never

0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 1>it never would have been no be like, I don't know,

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 1>and they just have eaten it and gone on with

0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 1>their lives. Well okay, well that was a terrific round up.

0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Good for him. Um, that's something. I have to google

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:28.520
<v Speaker 1>the fish because I can't even picture what it looks like.

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know it does. I mean, it looks like,

0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:34.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, how the hog fish have those big lips

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:36.960
<v Speaker 1>and like the yish, it looks like a hog fish,

0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:41.239
<v Speaker 1>but but more brightly colored and smaller. I wonder if

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 1>it's as tasty, because hog fish is freaking assumes so Like,

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 1>that's the problem with hog fish is that when I

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 1>order it in Florida, I just always assume it's not

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 1>actually hog fish because I don't trust anybody. But man,

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 1>when I've gotten it, like in person, in the flesh,

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 1>did hog fish so fantastic? Anyway? You know what else

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 1>is delicious? Snakeheads? As I've said a billion d in

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 1>one time. Um, but the person in this story uh

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:08.200
<v Speaker 1>is not going to uh ever learn that. Okay, So

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:11.919
<v Speaker 1>I was not going to do the Massachusetts snakehead story,

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:14.360
<v Speaker 1>even though a bunch of you guys forwarded along. And

0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 1>here's why. Right, the first story I read was in

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 1>the Miami Herald, and it literally could have been cut

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 1>and pasted from every single story of a snakehead showing

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 1>up in a new place. Right. The summary of that

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:30.200
<v Speaker 1>is basically so and so caught one here. Now here's

0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:33.920
<v Speaker 1>paragraph after paragraph of the same outdated and overhyped facts

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 1>that have been written for twenty years, and its rounded

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:39.759
<v Speaker 1>out nicely Yeah, it rounded out nicely with you know,

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 1>vague quotes from studies and surveys that also happened twenty

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:45.719
<v Speaker 1>years ago. So I didn't really think there was that

0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:49.960
<v Speaker 1>much for me to say. But the story on Boston

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:53.280
<v Speaker 1>dot Com took a much deeper dive into the angler

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:56.600
<v Speaker 1>and his personal experience with this fish, and I started

0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:59.120
<v Speaker 1>reading that and chuckling, and I was like, Okay, here

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 1>we go. I can run with this. So that angler

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:06.480
<v Speaker 1>is Michael Powell, and the snakehead was called in August

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:10.960
<v Speaker 1>in Reservoir Pond in Canton, Massachusetts, which is a Boston

0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:15.839
<v Speaker 1>suburb and also noteworthy because the snakehead like rarely, if ever,

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:18.359
<v Speaker 1>for all I I know, just kind of shows up

0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 1>like in in in the pond next to the cornfield

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:23.920
<v Speaker 1>in Iowa, you know what I mean. It's always always

0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:27.759
<v Speaker 1>around an urban center. UM authorities believed this one was

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:30.239
<v Speaker 1>a pet that was released after getting too big for

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:32.920
<v Speaker 1>its tank, which is one of the most common ways

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 1>that these fish end up everywhere that they are now.

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Powell was fishing for bass that day and throwing a

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 1>hollow body mouse, so that all checks out definitely something

0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 1>a a snack would chew. UM so here's what he

0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 1>had to say about the hookup. I fished my whole life,

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:51.759
<v Speaker 1>so I kind of knew what to do, and I

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 1>knew it wasn't a fish that was part of this area.

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:56.680
<v Speaker 1>As soon as I got it on the boat, I said,

0:35:56.719 --> 0:36:00.440
<v Speaker 1>holy shit, this is a snakehead fish. Now moving on

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:04.760
<v Speaker 1>to the specs the snakehead. This is from the story.

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 1>The snakehead was five pounds and thirty inches long. Negative,

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:11.759
<v Speaker 1>it was neither of those things. And that is a

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 1>classic case of a reporter. I feel like asking an

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>angler how big it was after the fact, you know

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:19.279
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, and it's like, oh, you know, like

0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:21.880
<v Speaker 1>five pounds probably thirty inches, right, So this one might

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:24.920
<v Speaker 1>weigh three pounds at best, it might measure twenty two inches.

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:29.239
<v Speaker 1>And remember I've caught I've caught a lot of them,

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 1>so I have a pretty decent eye for them. I

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:36.320
<v Speaker 1>caught to fish over thirty inches this summer, and like

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 1>that length is dream status if you're into snakeheads. Those

0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 1>fish were nine and a half and eleven pounds. So

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:47.040
<v Speaker 1>the measurements are are are just inaccurate. Okay, It's it's

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 1>a pretty it's pretty small snakehead. Mike um now, and

0:36:50.200 --> 0:36:54.040
<v Speaker 1>in the story, Powell says he's been quote to the

0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:57.239
<v Speaker 1>to the bottom of YouTube and back when it comes

0:36:57.320 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 1>to fishing videos, so he was familiar with the type

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 1>of fish and new to call the authorities immediately. But then,

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 1>the story says Powell believed he'd caught a brown snakehead fish,

0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:10.960
<v Speaker 1>which has not yet been identified in the US. Do

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:13.759
<v Speaker 1>you know why, because there's no such thing, no such

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:16.440
<v Speaker 1>thing as a brown snakehead fish. I googled it though,

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:19.360
<v Speaker 1>just to make sure I didn't miss something, you know

0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:21.080
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, Just make sure I didn't look stupid.

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:23.600
<v Speaker 1>But when you google brown snakehead fish, you only get

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 1>one return, and that would be this story about Michael Powell's.

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:29.480
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's just a great northern snakehead. It's in

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:32.920
<v Speaker 1>a darker phase. It's that's fine. Um fun facts. This

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:35.840
<v Speaker 1>is not the first snake had caught in Massachusetts. This

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:40.040
<v Speaker 1>makes number five since two thousand two. But it seems

0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 1>like in all cases they were dealing with a loner

0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 1>adult fish, and there's been no evidence of reproduction in

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:50.279
<v Speaker 1>the wild up there, right. So Powell reported this to

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:52.320
<v Speaker 1>the proper authorities, and they asked him to keep the

0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 1>fish alive for them, but they couldn't get there to

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 1>collect it until the next day. So Powell says, I

0:37:58.040 --> 0:38:00.400
<v Speaker 1>don't really have an aquarium I can stick in't. So

0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 1>what I did is I dragged one of my buddies

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:04.880
<v Speaker 1>boats on land and filled it with water and we

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:07.400
<v Speaker 1>put him in there. I put some plywood over it,

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 1>and then cinder blocks over the plywood, made sure it

0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:12.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't get out, because they're known for getting out of

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 1>aquariums and crawling around. So this all this all ties

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:22.960
<v Speaker 1>back to just like the overhead yeah right, um. And

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:25.439
<v Speaker 1>then the final quote, which sounds like it was given

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:28.279
<v Speaker 1>to a TV reporter, Powell says, did you see the

0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:31.680
<v Speaker 1>teeth on that thing? Try catching it. I didn't know

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:33.800
<v Speaker 1>what the hell to do with it, and I fished

0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:35.520
<v Speaker 1>my whole life. We had it out of the water

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:37.920
<v Speaker 1>for two hours while I was trying to figure out

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:39.480
<v Speaker 1>what to put it in. And as soon as you

0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 1>put it in the water, it let out a giant

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:43.319
<v Speaker 1>gulp of air and started breathing through its skills. Again,

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:46.120
<v Speaker 1>I said, that's it. I don't want to see it anymore.

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:50.440
<v Speaker 1>It's doing stuff that fish aren't supposed to do. Come on, man,

0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 1>like is it gonna haunt your dreams? You know what

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean? Like if it were me, I'd be out

0:38:57.440 --> 0:38:59.160
<v Speaker 1>there all the time wondering what if there's one, there

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:01.560
<v Speaker 1>might be more, you know what I mean? Like clearly,

0:39:01.719 --> 0:39:04.000
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know. Dude's not not embracing this. So

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:08.120
<v Speaker 1>um mass DNR will study it, which, like I said,

0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:11.320
<v Speaker 1>means no fish tacos for pal, which is probably smart

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:13.800
<v Speaker 1>so he doesn't worry. It'll like multiply in his stomach

0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:18.440
<v Speaker 1>and he'll have snakeheads bursting from every orifice. What is

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:21.160
<v Speaker 1>it about these fish, dude? What is it? I honestly,

0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, because there there's so many invasive species around,

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 1>and we talk about invasive species a lot, and we

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:28.480
<v Speaker 1>know they're a problem. I'm not saying that these fish

0:39:28.520 --> 0:39:31.840
<v Speaker 1>aren't a problem, But there's something about these fish that

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:35.120
<v Speaker 1>captures the imagination of the media and people like nothing

0:39:35.320 --> 0:39:39.320
<v Speaker 1>else except maybe sharks. I am convinced, um and I

0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 1>don't want to give too much away, but like, wait

0:39:41.520 --> 0:39:44.759
<v Speaker 1>wait till the new b Side season drops later this year,

0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:46.319
<v Speaker 1>Like you want to see some snakeheads ship. Like I'm

0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:48.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna say you have some snakehead ship, But I am.

0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I am thoroughly convinced that it is purely media fear driven.

0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:56.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh it is. But why did the media pick this

0:39:56.960 --> 0:39:59.200
<v Speaker 1>one because it's called a snakehead, because it's called a

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:02.200
<v Speaker 1>snakehead as it's mean looking, because it has teeth, and

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:05.560
<v Speaker 1>we it's like we're beating a dead horse. Right. The

0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:08.120
<v Speaker 1>whole walking on land thing is not inaccurate, but it

0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:10.760
<v Speaker 1>is a survival mechanism. But it was sold to people

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 1>so hard in those early years that these would just

0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 1>destroy everything. So it actually is inaccurate though, because I

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 1>did a deep dive in this in preparing for the

0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:24.919
<v Speaker 1>new season of Dos Boat. Right, northern snakehead can't crawl

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:27.160
<v Speaker 1>across land or live out of water for three days.

0:40:27.200 --> 0:40:30.320
<v Speaker 1>There is another subspecies of snakehead they can do it,

0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:32.839
<v Speaker 1>but not the northern snakead not the ones that are here.

0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:37.279
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm, well three days no way. But dude, I've

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I've walked up on snakeheads crawling across wet grass, right,

0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 1>So my point it's not that they can't. The northern

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:48.360
<v Speaker 1>snakeheads can come out of water. They need to be hydrated,

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:50.399
<v Speaker 1>like it needs to be murdered. Wet grass. They can't

0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:54.400
<v Speaker 1>crawl down Route one past is like, that's not gonna happen. Um.

0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:57.920
<v Speaker 1>But I just think that there was so much like

0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:01.279
<v Speaker 1>driven into people's heads, like media latched on. It is

0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:04.719
<v Speaker 1>so hard early on that it is just stuck with

0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 1>too many people. And there are so many worse things

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:10.640
<v Speaker 1>in our waterways all over this country than these, I

0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:14.640
<v Speaker 1>mean they. The truth is there were two separate horror

0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 1>films released with snakeheads as the primary fear based bad

0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:25.240
<v Speaker 1>guy horror films. Look at that, there are two snakehead

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 1>horror films out there. That's how obsessed we are with

0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:30.399
<v Speaker 1>these fish. It doesn't make any sense. But I mean, dude,

0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:32.879
<v Speaker 1>this dude doesn't seem stoked at all. Like be stoked, dude.

0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:36.200
<v Speaker 1>You've caught a million bass and you've got it all

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:39.120
<v Speaker 1>afraid of it on a mouse. That's great, that's rad.

0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:43.480
<v Speaker 1>That is rad. So there you go, Massachusetts snakeheads apparently

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:45.960
<v Speaker 1>they're just they're not gonna they're not gonna latch on

0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:54.320
<v Speaker 1>up there in Boston. Snakeheads. They may be able to

0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:58.000
<v Speaker 1>crawl for short distances on damp land, but you know

0:41:58.040 --> 0:42:01.560
<v Speaker 1>what they can't do, Joe, What's that? They can't fly? No,

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:05.879
<v Speaker 1>they can't know. But my second story is about fish

0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 1>that can fly sort of. So for for this story,

0:42:09.120 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm going back to Lake for a Million in Minnesota,

0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:15.920
<v Speaker 1>because in recent weeks an odd phenomenon has been troubling

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 1>the locals. They've been finding fish in places where fish

0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:25.399
<v Speaker 1>don't belong. Strange it sounds fish do on occasion fall

0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:28.120
<v Speaker 1>from the sky. In fact, according to the book It's Raining,

0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:31.080
<v Speaker 1>fish and spiders creatures fall from the sky about forty

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:34.360
<v Speaker 1>times a year. This occurs when tornadoes or water spouts

0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:37.400
<v Speaker 1>form over large bodies of water and suck fish and

0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:39.760
<v Speaker 1>water up from the surface into the storm. The storm

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:43.320
<v Speaker 1>then moves over land and drops the fish, giving the

0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:47.200
<v Speaker 1>impression of fish rain. But there have been no tornadoes

0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:51.720
<v Speaker 1>or water spouts anywhere near Lake for a Million recently.

0:42:53.000 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 1>According to local newspaper The Timber Jay, numerous residents have

0:42:57.760 --> 0:43:02.239
<v Speaker 1>reported finding fish on decks, law driveways, streets, and in

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 1>the woods, sometimes nowhere near the shore of the lake itself.

0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:08.880
<v Speaker 1>The vast majority of these fish are tulibies, also known

0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 1>as Cisco's. The one resident reported finding an eighteen inch

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:15.920
<v Speaker 1>walle in his yard. To make things even well, at

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:21.719
<v Speaker 1>least slightly stranger. Many of the fish are headless and mutilated. Oh,

0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:25.719
<v Speaker 1>the obvious question is why in the name of God

0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:28.360
<v Speaker 1>or fish falling from the sky. I mean, I know,

0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:31.040
<v Speaker 1>I was just saying that all those record fish catches

0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 1>make me feel like we're not living through the initial

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:35.960
<v Speaker 1>wave of the apocalypse, But mangled fish raining down upon

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:41.400
<v Speaker 1>small Midwestern towns might force me to rethink that assessment. Thankfully.

0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Is this an X files or a real story? I've

0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 1>heard this before. I think it was squids though, are

0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 1>like jelly like blobs looking up the timber j They

0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:55.239
<v Speaker 1>did some damn good reporting, and from the timber j

0:43:55.480 --> 0:43:59.320
<v Speaker 1>we know according to local gossip and science, this is

0:43:59.680 --> 0:44:04.000
<v Speaker 1>an splainable event. It's not a harbinger of the end times.

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 1>First we'll hit the gossip. Residents told the paper that

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:11.960
<v Speaker 1>they believe the Pissine precipitation is actually the result of raptors.

0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:15.560
<v Speaker 1>When water temperatures rise on lake for million, tulabies die

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:18.359
<v Speaker 1>off in large numbers, and the eagles and osprey take

0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:21.040
<v Speaker 1>advantage of the free meals. Locals think that the birds

0:44:21.080 --> 0:44:23.840
<v Speaker 1>have so much food they're just scattering it around Willie

0:44:23.880 --> 0:44:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Nelly all over the place. Biologists agree that eagles and

0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:31.359
<v Speaker 1>osprey are the mechanism for fish transport, but the rest

0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 1>of that theory doesn't hold up. Matt Hennan, the d

0:44:34.320 --> 0:44:38.479
<v Speaker 1>n r's local large Lake specialist, recently tested oxygen levels

0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:40.800
<v Speaker 1>in lake for milion and found them fully oxygen aated

0:44:41.120 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 1>down to thirty seven feet. He also said that the

0:44:44.080 --> 0:44:46.719
<v Speaker 1>d n R has seen no evidence of a fish

0:44:46.800 --> 0:44:51.719
<v Speaker 1>kill in recent weeks. Those fish are, however, moving into

0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 1>the shallows this time a year to feed on abundant

0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 1>zoe plankton and prepare to spawn. He also said that

0:44:57.280 --> 0:44:59.920
<v Speaker 1>eagle populations around the lake are at an all time high,

0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:04.400
<v Speaker 1>so his hypothesis is that the eagles, in preparation for

0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:07.719
<v Speaker 1>their own upcoming seasonal change, are competing with each other

0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:11.000
<v Speaker 1>for available food. They're scooping up the tulibes as they

0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:13.600
<v Speaker 1>move into shallow water, but in route to a nest

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:16.080
<v Speaker 1>or tree to eat the fish, they're running into other

0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:19.040
<v Speaker 1>eagles who want to steal their meal and then getting

0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:22.359
<v Speaker 1>into these aerial dog fights. And then fish fall from

0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:26.920
<v Speaker 1>the sky, sometimes decapitated. Once has anybody like seen one

0:45:27.040 --> 0:45:29.560
<v Speaker 1>fall from the sky, like if they physically watched it?

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:32.399
<v Speaker 1>Far are you getting there? I don't know the answer

0:45:32.480 --> 0:45:35.920
<v Speaker 1>that question. Actually, like what people fish on the ground,

0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I know, yes, you're really shifting on the Timber j

0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:42.960
<v Speaker 1>somebody works there and I got the story from them.

0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:45.080
<v Speaker 1>They did great work. They talked to locals, they talked

0:45:45.080 --> 0:45:47.600
<v Speaker 1>to the biologist. There's some good quotes in that story.

0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:49.719
<v Speaker 1>Everyone subscribed to the Timber J If you live around

0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:53.600
<v Speaker 1>like Familion, I don't think anybody has seen one fall

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:55.480
<v Speaker 1>from the sky. But they're in places that they had

0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:57.520
<v Speaker 1>to have fallen. And there were some photos and it's

0:45:57.520 --> 0:46:01.080
<v Speaker 1>clear like this thing fell down. It wasn't act all right,

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:03.879
<v Speaker 1>all right? And as interesting as I find the story,

0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:06.120
<v Speaker 1>and I do you know what this makes me think of?

0:46:06.200 --> 0:46:08.800
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm stuck with. What I'm thinking about

0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:11.879
<v Speaker 1>the poor person who will go to clean out their

0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:14.920
<v Speaker 1>gutters in a couple of months, oh yeah, and find

0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 1>a fully rotten tool to be jammed in a downspout.

0:46:20.360 --> 0:46:24.359
<v Speaker 1>Just the nastiest thing you could ever imagine that thinking

0:46:24.360 --> 0:46:26.680
<v Speaker 1>about this is such a dad like not cool thing

0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:30.160
<v Speaker 1>to say. Gutter guards best investment in my life. I

0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:34.800
<v Speaker 1>can't say enough good things about my gutter guards. We

0:46:34.880 --> 0:46:38.840
<v Speaker 1>could talk about him for hours. Who needs weed guards?

0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I got gutter guards right on. Yeah, that's it. That's

0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:46.960
<v Speaker 1>all I got from the guy. Ending ended on the

0:46:47.120 --> 0:46:49.320
<v Speaker 1>rotten tool be jammed into a down spout. That's the

0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:50.839
<v Speaker 1>image I want to leave all of you with your

0:46:50.880 --> 0:46:58.520
<v Speaker 1>welcome Yeah. Okay that yeah, that that that that would

0:46:58.560 --> 0:46:59.960
<v Speaker 1>not be good to take that out of there. I

0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:01.440
<v Speaker 1>don't really know what kind of good follow up I

0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:03.040
<v Speaker 1>have to that. I mean, it feels it seems like

0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:05.279
<v Speaker 1>mystery solved. But what came into my head, It's like,

0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:08.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie. I ended on that because I

0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:11.719
<v Speaker 1>was like, how could he ever transition from a rotten

0:47:11.760 --> 0:47:14.120
<v Speaker 1>tool to be jammed in a gutter to anything fish

0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:16.640
<v Speaker 1>news worthy? Oh but I but I am. But I'm

0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:19.000
<v Speaker 1>about to but I want to just say a little bit.

0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:21.960
<v Speaker 1>It's a loose connection, but it's a little bit. It's

0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:23.680
<v Speaker 1>actually nothing to do with the gutter. It's going to

0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:25.800
<v Speaker 1>be more about eagles. But now I'm getting ahead of myself.

0:47:26.000 --> 0:47:27.960
<v Speaker 1>But as soon as you started telling the story, I'm like,

0:47:28.239 --> 0:47:29.680
<v Speaker 1>this is the kind of stuff you see on those

0:47:29.760 --> 0:47:33.719
<v Speaker 1>like um Paranormal of history on science Shannow. You know,

0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:39.160
<v Speaker 1>it was a cold day and wherever Kentucky when started? Yeah?

0:47:40.040 --> 0:47:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Seven exactly. So, Um, here's what I'll say. If the

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:45.759
<v Speaker 1>eagles run out of toolabes, they might want to head

0:47:45.800 --> 0:47:47.960
<v Speaker 1>on over to the Illinois River, where things have gotten

0:47:48.080 --> 0:47:56.000
<v Speaker 1>much safer to eat lately. How about that? So I alright, fair,

0:47:56.280 --> 0:47:59.040
<v Speaker 1>fair four point five. You know, just keep on theme

0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:04.239
<v Speaker 1>with that with Ben Anyway, pc bees, I think most

0:48:04.280 --> 0:48:05.640
<v Speaker 1>of you know what they are, and in case you

0:48:05.680 --> 0:48:10.200
<v Speaker 1>do not, they are poly chlorinated by phenals. PCBs were

0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:13.279
<v Speaker 1>widely used as an insulator in electrical equipment and in

0:48:13.400 --> 0:48:17.919
<v Speaker 1>other industrial equipment. Now PCBs are one of the leading

0:48:17.960 --> 0:48:21.680
<v Speaker 1>contributors to do not eat or consumption warnings being placed

0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:24.720
<v Speaker 1>on certain waterways, and as Jersey guy, I am highly

0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:29.160
<v Speaker 1>familiar with these warnings. I have been eaten PCB since

0:48:29.160 --> 0:48:32.160
<v Speaker 1>I was knee high to a grasshopper. Um. Matter of fact,

0:48:32.200 --> 0:48:34.640
<v Speaker 1>there there's been one on the Hudson River in Raretan

0:48:34.680 --> 0:48:37.359
<v Speaker 1>Bay where we filmed episode one of dost Boats season three,

0:48:37.840 --> 0:48:40.279
<v Speaker 1>for a very long time. Um. The thing is, though,

0:48:40.320 --> 0:48:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I think like people get nuts so about these warnings.

0:48:43.040 --> 0:48:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes like just nuts. And in most cases warnings tell

0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:49.360
<v Speaker 1>you to eat fish from a contaminated area in moderation.

0:48:49.520 --> 0:48:52.200
<v Speaker 1>They don't often say never if you have a catfish

0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:55.120
<v Speaker 1>from the Striper Hudson once or twice the season, you're fine.

0:48:55.400 --> 0:48:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Pregnant women, young girls, nursing mothers, they need to be

0:48:57.920 --> 0:49:00.960
<v Speaker 1>extra cautious. But generally speaking, unless you're eating fish or

0:49:01.040 --> 0:49:03.880
<v Speaker 1>shell fish from that water daily or weekly, this is

0:49:03.920 --> 0:49:05.640
<v Speaker 1>not that big a deal, but people love to cling

0:49:05.719 --> 0:49:09.479
<v Speaker 1>to it. So um. Spoiler alert. Episode four of dost

0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Boats season three was filmed on the Potomac in d

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<v Speaker 1>C with chef Kevin Gillespie and they caught blue cats

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<v Speaker 1>and oh my god. People went nuts when they posted

0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:19.839
<v Speaker 1>photos like you can't eat a fish from there, ever,

0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:22.879
<v Speaker 1>it's a death sentence, and blah blah, it's not okay.

0:49:22.960 --> 0:49:25.400
<v Speaker 1>They feel like these are the same people that like,

0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:27.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, you'll sit behind a bus at a traffic

0:49:27.560 --> 0:49:29.640
<v Speaker 1>light breeding in the exhaust and like you don't worry

0:49:29.640 --> 0:49:32.440
<v Speaker 1>about that, but you're gonna worry about one catfish um.

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<v Speaker 1>And people I think down the tenth cigarette they've been

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<v Speaker 1>like catfish um. But people I think also forget um

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of the fish you purchase in the

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<v Speaker 1>fish market probably has some level of contaminants in it too, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just anyway PCBs were banned by the Environmental

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<v Speaker 1>Protection Agency in nineteen seventy nine, but they were used

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<v Speaker 1>so heavily for so long um that they've been contaminating

0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:02.560
<v Speaker 1>to raise ever since. They don't just go away easily.

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<v Speaker 1>So here we are forty two years after the band,

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<v Speaker 1>and there may be some hope that in certain places

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<v Speaker 1>those PCBs might finally be diluting or sort of burning

0:50:12.000 --> 0:50:14.960
<v Speaker 1>out and going away. The Illinois Department of Public Health

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<v Speaker 1>recently took the last remaining fish off the do not

0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:20.840
<v Speaker 1>eat list for the Illinois River, and that would be

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<v Speaker 1>the Channel catfish. So PCBs collecting the mud in the

0:50:26.000 --> 0:50:29.160
<v Speaker 1>silton sludge and the soft bottom. Therefore, species like catfish

0:50:29.600 --> 0:50:32.440
<v Speaker 1>that do most of their eating on the bottom always

0:50:32.520 --> 0:50:35.239
<v Speaker 1>have higher levels of of PCBs than fish that tend

0:50:35.280 --> 0:50:37.600
<v Speaker 1>to feed further up in the water column move around more.

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<v Speaker 1>So to take them off the list of a river

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<v Speaker 1>with an incredibly long industrial background is to me pretty significant,

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<v Speaker 1>So from the story on Advantage news dot com, the

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<v Speaker 1>DPH regularly monitors Illinois River for contaminants. Fish from each

0:50:53.160 --> 0:50:56.560
<v Speaker 1>stretch of the two and seventy mile along Illinois River

0:50:56.680 --> 0:51:00.799
<v Speaker 1>are sampled every five years, year by year as contamination

0:51:00.920 --> 0:51:03.680
<v Speaker 1>levels have improved, specific types of fish have been removed

0:51:03.760 --> 0:51:06.319
<v Speaker 1>from the do not Eat list. Only channel catfish from

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<v Speaker 1>two stretches of the Illinois River in northern industrial areas

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<v Speaker 1>remained on the list this year, and then in August,

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<v Speaker 1>using the most current data, the DPH was finally able

0:51:16.400 --> 0:51:20.040
<v Speaker 1>to clear the channel catfish from the list. So there

0:51:20.120 --> 0:51:22.960
<v Speaker 1>have been some strategic cleanup efforts on the Illinois over

0:51:23.000 --> 0:51:25.040
<v Speaker 1>the years. But as I understand it, we're also just

0:51:25.120 --> 0:51:28.480
<v Speaker 1>seeing again that natural burnout. After forty years, these PCBs

0:51:28.520 --> 0:51:31.120
<v Speaker 1>are just starting to break down. So this could be

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<v Speaker 1>a a good sign for similar rivers and bodies of

0:51:33.840 --> 0:51:36.799
<v Speaker 1>water with similar problems. And I found that a little

0:51:36.840 --> 0:51:40.000
<v Speaker 1>bit uplifting. Yeah, I mean, are they burning out? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that that they have a half life or are they

0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:47.040
<v Speaker 1>half like atomic particles. I think it's a combination of both,

0:51:47.160 --> 0:51:50.800
<v Speaker 1>just flushing over time and turnover in these rivers, And

0:51:51.000 --> 0:51:53.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean they will they do have a half life.

0:51:53.800 --> 0:51:56.800
<v Speaker 1>They will just sort of break down eventually. It just

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<v Speaker 1>takes a really long time. So I mean we're talking

0:51:58.680 --> 0:52:01.440
<v Speaker 1>about breakdown that that I mean the process started in

0:52:01.520 --> 0:52:04.560
<v Speaker 1>nine nine, so it's taken a really long time. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little glimmer of if you're thinking about different

0:52:08.480 --> 0:52:11.720
<v Speaker 1>pollutants and the things we worry about, particularly like nuclear waste.

0:52:12.239 --> 0:52:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Forty years is nothing, right, I mean, like you have

0:52:14.920 --> 0:52:17.200
<v Speaker 1>like millions of years of half life on some of

0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:20.000
<v Speaker 1>this stuff. So this is like kind of good news.

0:52:20.080 --> 0:52:23.000
<v Speaker 1>It goes away. I mean, it's it's a long time

0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:26.640
<v Speaker 1>in a single person's life span. It's not that long

0:52:26.719 --> 0:52:29.400
<v Speaker 1>in terms of like the longevity of pollutants really right,

0:52:29.600 --> 0:52:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Like they're not going to break ground on the on

0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:35.440
<v Speaker 1>the hard rock chernobyl to at least five or something

0:52:35.520 --> 0:52:39.239
<v Speaker 1>like that, you know what I mean. So, no, that's great, man.

0:52:40.280 --> 0:52:43.520
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate the upliving. It's it's uplifting in a number

0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:46.719
<v Speaker 1>of diferent ways. One always like to hear about rivers

0:52:46.800 --> 0:52:52.600
<v Speaker 1>getting cleaned up, but also catfish anglers on the Illinois River. Yeah,

0:52:53.400 --> 0:52:57.239
<v Speaker 1>every day, every day, kill them off. There's not enough

0:52:57.280 --> 0:53:01.120
<v Speaker 1>hassautry seafood breader in the world, there you. So we've ended,

0:53:01.239 --> 0:53:04.200
<v Speaker 1>we've ended news on an uplifting note. We're gonna, we're gonna,

0:53:04.239 --> 0:53:06.920
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get phills. Last judgment of me and Miles

0:53:07.000 --> 0:53:09.600
<v Speaker 1>here together, and then we're just gonna bring somebody straight

0:53:09.680 --> 0:53:17.080
<v Speaker 1>down and do one final Awkward Moments in angling. Wow, Miles,

0:53:17.640 --> 0:53:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe it's your last show. Um. I normally

0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:22.719
<v Speaker 1>play a kind of a stupid character when I do

0:53:22.800 --> 0:53:24.600
<v Speaker 1>these Fish New segments, but I just want to get

0:53:24.640 --> 0:53:27.200
<v Speaker 1>a little sincere here and say that editing Bent is

0:53:27.239 --> 0:53:29.919
<v Speaker 1>honestly the highlight of my week and I'm really gonna

0:53:29.960 --> 0:53:32.919
<v Speaker 1>miss you being a part of that. Um. Just good

0:53:33.000 --> 0:53:38.480
<v Speaker 1>luck with your your next journey. That being said, Joe Sirmellie,

0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:42.759
<v Speaker 1>you are the winner of fish News this week. No, no,

0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:46.920
<v Speaker 1>it's not. It's Miles. I'm not that big of an asshole. Miles.

0:53:47.000 --> 0:53:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I just want to say one more thing. You take

0:53:50.280 --> 0:53:53.800
<v Speaker 1>my breath away and remember the next time you're on

0:53:53.880 --> 0:53:56.600
<v Speaker 1>the highway to the danger zone. I know that I've

0:53:56.600 --> 0:54:18.799
<v Speaker 1>always got that love and feeling, but it's a back

0:54:18.840 --> 0:54:24.879
<v Speaker 1>of pixture, a live black So I think it's fair

0:54:24.960 --> 0:54:28.080
<v Speaker 1>to say that Awkward Moments has been one of our

0:54:28.280 --> 0:54:33.080
<v Speaker 1>personal favorite segments. Like we've we've really had a great

0:54:33.120 --> 0:54:35.560
<v Speaker 1>time with it, and I promise that no matter what

0:54:35.840 --> 0:54:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Bent looks like going forward, awkward Moments will not go away.

0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:41.759
<v Speaker 1>Right it is. It's just it's just too much fun.

0:54:42.160 --> 0:54:44.680
<v Speaker 1>And I need you guys keep sending and tagging your

0:54:44.719 --> 0:54:47.239
<v Speaker 1>embarrassing shots, because if you don't, I'll have no one

0:54:47.360 --> 0:54:49.759
<v Speaker 1>but myself to make fun of all the time. And

0:54:49.880 --> 0:54:52.279
<v Speaker 1>while I'd never run out of things to make fun

0:54:52.360 --> 0:54:55.040
<v Speaker 1>of about myself, it's just a nice break to trash

0:54:55.120 --> 0:54:58.320
<v Speaker 1>someone else from time to time. So awkward rides on,

0:54:58.600 --> 0:55:01.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, and as it has to, because from the

0:55:01.280 --> 0:55:04.239
<v Speaker 1>very beginning we knew that we wanted to make fun

0:55:04.320 --> 0:55:06.399
<v Speaker 1>of the genre of the hero shot. It's just it's

0:55:06.440 --> 0:55:09.680
<v Speaker 1>so right for ridicule, and yet we all do it.

0:55:10.239 --> 0:55:14.279
<v Speaker 1>We just can't help ourselves. And and this week Joe

0:55:14.400 --> 0:55:17.799
<v Speaker 1>found us a gem, which is maybe, I think, maybe

0:55:17.840 --> 0:55:21.520
<v Speaker 1>the perfect closer for us to do together, because while

0:55:21.560 --> 0:55:26.239
<v Speaker 1>it's definitely awkward, it also kind of captures everything Bent

0:55:26.680 --> 0:55:29.520
<v Speaker 1>is about in one frame. It could be it could

0:55:29.520 --> 0:55:32.920
<v Speaker 1>be a Bent poster. We've said so many times that

0:55:33.000 --> 0:55:35.680
<v Speaker 1>we strive to be the place where all anglers are welcome,

0:55:36.120 --> 0:55:39.279
<v Speaker 1>where we're not siloed into being all fly or all

0:55:39.400 --> 0:55:42.400
<v Speaker 1>salt or all bass like so many other podcasts. I know,

0:55:42.719 --> 0:55:45.680
<v Speaker 1>damn well, you are going to maintain that going forward.

0:55:45.960 --> 0:55:48.560
<v Speaker 1>But if you need some short term help. You might

0:55:48.640 --> 0:55:51.560
<v Speaker 1>want to call Jeremy Creed, the subject of this photo.

0:55:52.560 --> 0:55:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I I might want to call him, or at least

0:55:54.600 --> 0:55:56.480
<v Speaker 1>if I ever need a bodyguard while fishing, I'll know

0:55:56.600 --> 0:55:59.719
<v Speaker 1>who to call. Um. Look, the fact is we can

0:55:59.760 --> 0:56:02.560
<v Speaker 1>spare in an entire episode dissecting this shot. But per

0:56:02.719 --> 0:56:04.879
<v Speaker 1>lance V, your shift at Chili's starts in an hour

0:56:05.000 --> 0:56:07.640
<v Speaker 1>or so, so we just don't have that kind of time. Okay,

0:56:08.280 --> 0:56:10.680
<v Speaker 1>So this is a This is a vertical photo of

0:56:10.760 --> 0:56:13.720
<v Speaker 1>a shirtless Jeremy who's wearing a backpack, and he's standing

0:56:13.800 --> 0:56:16.719
<v Speaker 1>in the stream, and he's holding up a decent smallmouth

0:56:16.719 --> 0:56:21.320
<v Speaker 1>bass two pounds maybe decent fish, good smally right, So,

0:56:21.600 --> 0:56:23.840
<v Speaker 1>working from the top down, as as sometimes we do,

0:56:24.239 --> 0:56:28.400
<v Speaker 1>we'll start with Jeremy's glasses. They are wrap around frameless glasses,

0:56:28.880 --> 0:56:32.640
<v Speaker 1>possibly Oakley or knockoff flea market Oakley. And they're exactly

0:56:32.719 --> 0:56:36.440
<v Speaker 1>what I've described in past awkward moments as ken Griffy Jr. Sunglasses.

0:56:36.840 --> 0:56:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Now in his in his mouth is a fly rod.

0:56:40.960 --> 0:56:44.000
<v Speaker 1>My money is on flea market knockoffs looks like those

0:56:44.040 --> 0:56:48.680
<v Speaker 1>those are not. But I I understand why Jeremy's doing

0:56:48.760 --> 0:56:51.279
<v Speaker 1>the rod biting pose here. But I still don't like it.

0:56:52.280 --> 0:56:55.960
<v Speaker 1>His hands are occupied. One is busy lipping that smally vertically,

0:56:56.160 --> 0:56:58.759
<v Speaker 1>and the other is holding a very nice wooden landing

0:56:58.840 --> 0:57:02.880
<v Speaker 1>net with a ghost bag. I applaud this, okay, He

0:57:03.280 --> 0:57:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Jeremy is worried, doesn't want the fish to wiggle out

0:57:05.239 --> 0:57:07.439
<v Speaker 1>of his hand and hurt itself. That's great. But while

0:57:07.480 --> 0:57:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I do applaud the fish handling, I have just never

0:57:11.120 --> 0:57:14.880
<v Speaker 1>cared for the rod in mouth pose. Can I interrupt

0:57:14.920 --> 0:57:17.840
<v Speaker 1>for one second ask does that shot of you exist anywhere?

0:57:17.880 --> 0:57:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Because I can't give him as hard of a time

0:57:20.080 --> 0:57:22.640
<v Speaker 1>because there are shots of me doing that. But have

0:57:22.800 --> 0:57:24.840
<v Speaker 1>you ever done that? I have done that. I'm not.

0:57:24.920 --> 0:57:26.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying I've never done it, but I have.

0:57:27.000 --> 0:57:30.480
<v Speaker 1>It's been at least ten years since I've done so

0:57:31.120 --> 0:57:34.040
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I can say I have learned from

0:57:34.080 --> 0:57:36.600
<v Speaker 1>my past mistakes and I'm not trying to avoid it.

0:57:36.680 --> 0:57:38.919
<v Speaker 1>But they exist of me? Is what I'm sure someone

0:57:39.000 --> 0:57:41.200
<v Speaker 1>will find one of me and and make fun of it.

0:57:41.600 --> 0:57:43.960
<v Speaker 1>And what I have to say to Jeremy in this photo,

0:57:44.080 --> 0:57:47.320
<v Speaker 1>and and also to myself from my twenties, we get it.

0:57:48.320 --> 0:57:52.040
<v Speaker 1>The Smalley the fish was fly caught good for you.

0:57:53.280 --> 0:57:55.440
<v Speaker 1>But news flash, you also kind of look like a

0:57:55.520 --> 0:57:59.240
<v Speaker 1>tool with that graphite in your teeth. Again, this is

0:57:59.320 --> 0:58:01.840
<v Speaker 1>just my opinion, and the rod bite maneuver is is

0:58:01.880 --> 0:58:05.960
<v Speaker 1>actually pretty standard in fly angler gripping grins. So that's

0:58:05.960 --> 0:58:08.200
<v Speaker 1>about as far as I can go there. But beyond that,

0:58:09.600 --> 0:58:12.920
<v Speaker 1>ship kind of gets weird in this photo. Yeah, so far,

0:58:13.160 --> 0:58:16.720
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing out of the ordinary here, right, But then

0:58:17.080 --> 0:58:20.200
<v Speaker 1>protruding straight up from the center of Jeremy's lower abdomen

0:58:20.560 --> 0:58:25.680
<v Speaker 1>like a bad case of morning would is a spinning roun. Okay,

0:58:26.040 --> 0:58:30.280
<v Speaker 1>he's got the handle jammed into the waistband of his

0:58:30.440 --> 0:58:33.160
<v Speaker 1>quick Dry fishing pants and just the way that like

0:58:33.360 --> 0:58:35.880
<v Speaker 1>it's got to be tapping his naughty bits. Okay, but

0:58:36.000 --> 0:58:39.120
<v Speaker 1>that's not all right. Jammed into that waistband in the

0:58:39.280 --> 0:58:44.080
<v Speaker 1>same central location, same place as the rod is his

0:58:44.200 --> 0:58:48.200
<v Speaker 1>cell phone and a nine millimeter pistol. Yeah, that's that's

0:58:48.240 --> 0:58:51.479
<v Speaker 1>a lot of weight. I'm not I am not sure

0:58:51.600 --> 0:58:55.800
<v Speaker 1>how those nylon quick dry pants are staying up frankly,

0:58:55.880 --> 0:59:00.400
<v Speaker 1>but that's also not the main concern here because there's

0:59:00.400 --> 0:59:03.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot going on. You put this whole package together

0:59:03.840 --> 0:59:09.320
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's like pseudo tactical. Jeremy's trying to be

0:59:09.480 --> 0:59:14.040
<v Speaker 1>prepared for every possibility. May fly start hatching, Bam, He's

0:59:14.080 --> 0:59:17.840
<v Speaker 1>got the fly rod deep, whip out the spinner, get

0:59:17.920 --> 0:59:21.960
<v Speaker 1>him down. Should he encounter a selfie crisis, which he

0:59:22.040 --> 0:59:24.120
<v Speaker 1>seems of the age that that might be a problem,

0:59:24.280 --> 0:59:29.680
<v Speaker 1>he's covered. And if a bear or wolf, for yetty

0:59:29.800 --> 0:59:32.520
<v Speaker 1>or homicidal maniac just happens to jump out of the bushes,

0:59:32.720 --> 0:59:36.360
<v Speaker 1>the pistol is at the ready. But I said pseudo tactical,

0:59:36.920 --> 0:59:40.040
<v Speaker 1>because if Jeremy was actually deep in the tactical world,

0:59:40.640 --> 0:59:44.800
<v Speaker 1>he'd have like special holsters for all these things that

0:59:44.840 --> 0:59:49.040
<v Speaker 1>would keep them on his waist band, on the outside

0:59:49.440 --> 0:59:53.680
<v Speaker 1>or elsewhere, not jammed into his pants. Right, he wouldn't

0:59:53.680 --> 0:59:57.680
<v Speaker 1>have a rod, butt, camera, phone, and pistol all pointed

0:59:57.760 --> 1:00:00.920
<v Speaker 1>straight at his junk and only held up by the

1:00:01.000 --> 1:00:05.040
<v Speaker 1>power of wasteband and beer gut. Now, well, it's easy

1:00:05.120 --> 1:00:07.720
<v Speaker 1>to crack jokes about this shot. This is this is

1:00:07.800 --> 1:00:11.120
<v Speaker 1>what ties it all together. The truth is this was

1:00:11.800 --> 1:00:15.640
<v Speaker 1>and kind of still is me and this shot is

1:00:15.760 --> 1:00:18.800
<v Speaker 1>bent right like I was the kid in love with

1:00:18.920 --> 1:00:21.960
<v Speaker 1>fly fishing, but not in love with the idea that

1:00:22.400 --> 1:00:25.120
<v Speaker 1>that I might miss opportunities because I only brought a

1:00:25.160 --> 1:00:27.360
<v Speaker 1>fly rod. So most of the time when I had

1:00:27.360 --> 1:00:29.880
<v Speaker 1>weighed a smallmouth river or a trout stream, there was

1:00:29.920 --> 1:00:32.160
<v Speaker 1>either a fly rod broken down of my backpack or

1:00:32.200 --> 1:00:35.840
<v Speaker 1>a spinning rod sticking out of my backpack or waiter belt.

1:00:36.360 --> 1:00:39.720
<v Speaker 1>And if there's one resounding message here on Ben, it's that,

1:00:39.960 --> 1:00:45.160
<v Speaker 1>God damn it, that's okay, you can do that. Yes,

1:00:45.520 --> 1:00:49.360
<v Speaker 1>and and you're right, that is That is the message.

1:00:49.400 --> 1:00:51.040
<v Speaker 1>And I may, I may, I may have been a

1:00:51.080 --> 1:00:54.200
<v Speaker 1>little too hard on young Jeremy. I really do applaud

1:00:54.320 --> 1:00:57.640
<v Speaker 1>his preparedness in versatility. It's the firearms safety thing that's

1:00:57.680 --> 1:00:59.840
<v Speaker 1>getting You can talk about that for a set. I

1:01:00.520 --> 1:01:03.920
<v Speaker 1>just I hope he's getting a little more careful with

1:01:04.120 --> 1:01:07.760
<v Speaker 1>how he carries a firearm. It's I'm glad he's got it.

1:01:07.880 --> 1:01:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I want him to be prepared and safe. That's all great,

1:01:10.200 --> 1:01:13.520
<v Speaker 1>but poor poor firearms handling is not bent. Just the

1:01:13.560 --> 1:01:18.440
<v Speaker 1>fishing stuff, the fishing stuff there, and and awkwardly sticking

1:01:18.480 --> 1:01:21.880
<v Speaker 1>your cell phone somewhere, No doubt that's me. And God

1:01:22.000 --> 1:01:26.400
<v Speaker 1>knows I spent years awkwardly lugging every kind of fishing

1:01:26.560 --> 1:01:30.360
<v Speaker 1>implement I owned. Strapped in whatever way I could to

1:01:30.600 --> 1:01:33.680
<v Speaker 1>whatever second hand backpack I could afford. I did that

1:01:33.800 --> 1:01:35.920
<v Speaker 1>for years. Yeah, you threw it all, and you threw

1:01:35.920 --> 1:01:38.600
<v Speaker 1>it all in your jam sport and off you tell me,

1:01:38.720 --> 1:01:40.959
<v Speaker 1>tell me like nine times out of ten you would

1:01:41.000 --> 1:01:43.320
<v Speaker 1>regret it too, Like you'd want to go into it

1:01:43.400 --> 1:01:45.320
<v Speaker 1>that way, but she'd be like trying to crawl through

1:01:45.360 --> 1:01:48.080
<v Speaker 1>ship and the spinning rods caught in the trees, or

1:01:48.280 --> 1:01:49.960
<v Speaker 1>like it falls out of your waiter belt and a

1:01:50.040 --> 1:01:52.680
<v Speaker 1>deep hole. Like it was always it was always a disaster.

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<v Speaker 1>But I always did that. I just wanted to leave

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<v Speaker 1>no fish on the table because of my inability to

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<v Speaker 1>decide on method of chasing them anyway. Do you remember,

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<v Speaker 1>like what makes you think of an image? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>remember the one man band? Yeah? I always kind of

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<v Speaker 1>felt like the one man band guy who sort of

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<v Speaker 1>had every instrument strap to be somewhere playing. It's so inefficient,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so inefficient, but it's so great And Jeremy, we

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<v Speaker 1>really appreciate the shot again man, such a fitting closer

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<v Speaker 1>for Miles. Not a tag team. So please keep sending

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<v Speaker 1>your awkward photos to Bent at the mediator dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>or you can d m them to me directly on

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<v Speaker 1>the instagrams. That's where this one came from. I will

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<v Speaker 1>close with a warning, however, UM, who the hell knows

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<v Speaker 1>who will be joining me for future roastings. Okay, And

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<v Speaker 1>if you've been with us from the beginning, you know

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<v Speaker 1>our cast of regulars, and some of them probably won't

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<v Speaker 1>be as nice and eloquent about your fury as Miles.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, we do not condone, do not condone wet

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<v Speaker 1>waiting with a loaded nine millimeter pointed at your junk.

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<v Speaker 1>But we did enjoy that photo very much. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like we've always aimed to keep you on the straight

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<v Speaker 1>path down range with your fishing, UM, which is why

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<v Speaker 1>we close so many shows with our end of the

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<v Speaker 1>line segment. And I'm gonna have to come up with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more luras and flies and baits. I suppose

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<v Speaker 1>now that you're leaving, UM, but I think it's only

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<v Speaker 1>fitting that you hit one more end of the line

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<v Speaker 1>before you dip. I appreciate that, I think I should,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want I want to close one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best bent and the line topics. I can come up

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<v Speaker 1>with one that's equally literate, degenerate, functional, and fishing all inclusive.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be a little unconventional, but I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy it. Well, that's not loud enough. Technically speaking, this

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<v Speaker 1>is an end of the line segment. But because I

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<v Speaker 1>want to hurl one last appeal to put down your

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<v Speaker 1>phones pick up a book at all of you, it's

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<v Speaker 1>also a freaking philistine segment. This is my last show.

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<v Speaker 1>I do what I want. The fly I'm featuring this

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<v Speaker 1>week is in many ways an anti fly. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>delicate or fussy. It's not even actually tied. The bugger duck,

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<v Speaker 1>as it's called, requires three materials and no threat at all.

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<v Speaker 1>It's cheaper than a gas station jighead with a twister

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<v Speaker 1>tail and just as easy to rig. No matter how

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<v Speaker 1>much whiskey is curdling in your consciousness, you probably have

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<v Speaker 1>all the necessary components to make this fly in your truck.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is actually how the fly came to be. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>a snippet of its origin story, taken from an essay

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<v Speaker 1>written by its inventor. I was fishing wooly boogers on

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<v Speaker 1>the Gallatin when it came up with a full blown

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<v Speaker 1>bugger duck. The fish were hidden like crazy. Two had

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<v Speaker 1>broken my tip. It and in my frenzy, I had

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<v Speaker 1>snapped off four flies in the trees behind me, so

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<v Speaker 1>I went back to my pickup to find more, but

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<v Speaker 1>there were none. I did have some lead wrap in

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<v Speaker 1>my vest and a dozen number six long shank hooks

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<v Speaker 1>and a roll of duct tape in my glove box.

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<v Speaker 1>With a vague idea of the invention that necessity was

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<v Speaker 1>mothering forth, I went under the bridge to take a

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<v Speaker 1>leak and stumbled upon the moldering carcass of a coyote

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<v Speaker 1>nod duck. I picked some of the sodden down from it,

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<v Speaker 1>returned to the tailgated by pickup, sat down, and proceeded

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<v Speaker 1>to tape up a true bugger duck. I tore off

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<v Speaker 1>a little strip at duct tape, wrapped the shank of

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<v Speaker 1>the hook in it, wrapped the duct taped shank, and

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<v Speaker 1>lead wrapped that in more duct tape, taped on some

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<v Speaker 1>of the soggy down for a tail, and taped on

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<v Speaker 1>more down for the body, creating a head that looked

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<v Speaker 1>like a silver bullet in the process. Gazing at the

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<v Speaker 1>morbid proletarian monstrosity I had created without thread, bob and

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<v Speaker 1>or vice, I thought not bad, and quickly taped up

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<v Speaker 1>four more. Then I lumbered back down to the river.

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<v Speaker 1>The bugger duck and that passage. We're both the brainchild

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<v Speaker 1>of writer, poet, teacher, and musician Greg Keeler, and the

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<v Speaker 1>fly is a perfect distillation of Gregg's approach to fishing, writing,

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<v Speaker 1>and life. Bugger ducks catch fish. They are an honest

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<v Speaker 1>to god effective pattern. But that's not why I picked

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<v Speaker 1>this fly. I love this fly for what it represents

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<v Speaker 1>and who it reminds me of. See. You may not

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<v Speaker 1>know the name Greg Keiler, but if you're even vaguely

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with the countercultural outdoor writing scene in southwest Montana

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<v Speaker 1>during the seventies and eighties, you know the crew that

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<v Speaker 1>Greg ran with. We're talking about Russell Chatham, Doug Peacock,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom mcgwayne, Jim Harrison, Gary Schneider, the people who defined

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<v Speaker 1>the genre of outdoor writing as we know it today.

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Brodigan was one of Greg's close friends. Greg wrote

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<v Speaker 1>a book, Waltzing with the Captain that recounts some of

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<v Speaker 1>their adventures, but Greg never found national notoriety in the

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<v Speaker 1>same way as his contemporary. He wrote plenty of books,

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<v Speaker 1>some very good ones, but maintained a family in addition

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<v Speaker 1>to his day job as a tenure track professor at

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<v Speaker 1>Montana State University. I read Gregg's memoir trash Fish when

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<v Speaker 1>it was published in the early two thousands and found

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<v Speaker 1>in it exactly the tone that I felt so much

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<v Speaker 1>fishing literature lacked. Trash Fish is the opposite of most

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<v Speaker 1>outdoor writing, unpretentious, self deprecating, and honest. Greg is no hero,

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<v Speaker 1>trumpeting his genius and celebrating his triumph for fish and

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<v Speaker 1>fellow anglers. He's a confused baby boomer with an inexplicable

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<v Speaker 1>angling obsession, stumbling through the messiness of trying to live

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<v Speaker 1>a satisfying life. Along the way, he up often hurts

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<v Speaker 1>the people he loves most, indulges in years of self destruction,

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<v Speaker 1>and goes fishing a lot. The book reminds us that

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<v Speaker 1>just about everything we do, when viewed from an appropriate

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<v Speaker 1>angle of distance, his absurd, and yet despite the clown

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<v Speaker 1>futility of modern life, our actions have consequences. Individual suffering matters,

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<v Speaker 1>even if not at the macro scale of a population

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<v Speaker 1>now pushing eight billion. I reached out to Greg before

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<v Speaker 1>my own memoir came out in two thousand nine to

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<v Speaker 1>ask for advice on generating an audience and being a

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<v Speaker 1>successful writer based in Bozeman. Though at the time we'd

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<v Speaker 1>never met, he was kind enough to write back to

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<v Speaker 1>me with the following wisdom. He wrote, My publisher tried

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<v Speaker 1>to get me to go out and create a groundswell

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<v Speaker 1>for trash Fish, so I ran home and hid in

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<v Speaker 1>my house. If there's an audience for it in this area,

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<v Speaker 1>it's because I've lived, taught, performed my songs, and exhibited

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<v Speaker 1>my art here for thirty five years. I've been trying

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<v Speaker 1>to write lately, but between students meetings, magazine writing, and

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<v Speaker 1>feeble attempts to travel. For trash Fish to transient showed

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<v Speaker 1>at my signing and butte, I've barely had time to fart.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that Greg and I would become friends when

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<v Speaker 1>I enrolled in the graduate program at Montana State University.

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<v Speaker 1>Greg's office became my sanctuary. He kept me afloat while

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<v Speaker 1>I was churning in the crowded wave pool of fragile

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<v Speaker 1>egos and weaponized word play we call academia. Greg served

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<v Speaker 1>on my thesis committee until two days before my final defense,

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<v Speaker 1>his wife committed suicide in her car parked in a

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<v Speaker 1>Bank parking lot beside a steel statutory of majestic elk.

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<v Speaker 1>I stopped by his house, wearing a black shirt, black tie,

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<v Speaker 1>and black cowboy boots, and carrying a venison sausage pie,

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<v Speaker 1>as if its caloric density might fill some of his void.

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<v Speaker 1>I left, hastily, stepping into the early May perfume of lilacs,

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<v Speaker 1>and tried not to think about futility as I drove

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<v Speaker 1>my truck to the fluorescent globe of the English Department

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<v Speaker 1>conference room. Later that summer, Greg and I went carpet fishing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was reminded of why I loved his memoir

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<v Speaker 1>in the first place. The cover features a portrait of

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<v Speaker 1>a sucker with a drop of water creeping down from

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<v Speaker 1>its stupid and terrified eye, making the fish look as

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<v Speaker 1>though it's crying. Here's a sample taken from an early chapter.

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<v Speaker 1>I sometimes found it difficult to understand why father chose

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<v Speaker 1>to go fishing by himself half the time. After all,

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<v Speaker 1>he liked to fish. I like to fish, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was his son. But now looking back, it's not quite

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<v Speaker 1>such a mystery. Fishing with me must have been something

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<v Speaker 1>like bird watching with a cat. As soon as we'd

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<v Speaker 1>pull up to a streamer lake. I'd be out of

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<v Speaker 1>the car, dashing toward the lake, falling over boulders, spilling

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<v Speaker 1>the tackle box, and falling in the water. Father would

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<v Speaker 1>stand by the car trunk, muttering under his breath, knowing

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<v Speaker 1>that nothing short of violence could stop me. Then eventually

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<v Speaker 1>he'd come after me, picking up hooks and sinkers in

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<v Speaker 1>my wake, and finally ragging up his own rod. Not

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<v Speaker 1>that he was any great shakes himself. His equipment was

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<v Speaker 1>always frayed and clogged from use and abuse. His casting

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<v Speaker 1>reels sometimes looked like a porcupine, with all the loose

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<v Speaker 1>ends poking out from where he had nodded the line

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<v Speaker 1>together after cutting out backlashes. His rod was short and

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<v Speaker 1>stubby from breaking and regluing the tips so many times,

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<v Speaker 1>and his lures they were huge, old concoctions of metal,

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<v Speaker 1>feathers and wood, resembling small rats or squashed pigeons. But

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<v Speaker 1>probably if I learned anything specific about my father from

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<v Speaker 1>the process of angling, it was how to swear. After all,

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<v Speaker 1>when one lets one's tackle become a huge tangled wad,

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<v Speaker 1>one has a bit of trouble turning it into anything

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<v Speaker 1>but found art. One of my earliest vivid memories is

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<v Speaker 1>of Father standing out on a point of rocks on

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<v Speaker 1>Lake scan Tellus in upstate New York, silhouetted against the

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<v Speaker 1>futius sunset, jumping up and down and screaming. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>remember if it was over faulty equipment, lost fisher life

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<v Speaker 1>in general. All I remember is the part when a

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<v Speaker 1>reel got a backlash in it in father's hands. That

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<v Speaker 1>ceased being a plain old reel and became a jacked

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<v Speaker 1>off spool of horse reel. Once in Oklahoma, when he

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<v Speaker 1>was pulling a stringer of small bass from a farm

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<v Speaker 1>pond and a water moccasin had managed to work one

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<v Speaker 1>of the bass into its gullet, it ceased being a

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<v Speaker 1>water moccasin and became the bastard son of an elongated turd.

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<v Speaker 1>And once when he was cleaning a channel cat and

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<v Speaker 1>his hands slipped so that the dorsal spine went into

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<v Speaker 1>his wrist, it ceased being a channel cat became a

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<v Speaker 1>scumb sucking mucus drenched nail in the hand of Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>Christ Almighty. There was also violence. If he broke the

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<v Speaker 1>tip of a rod, Sometimes instead of replacing the tip,

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<v Speaker 1>he would take what was left and break it again

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<v Speaker 1>in several places. It isn't easy to break a fishing

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<v Speaker 1>rod in several places. Sometimes one must find a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of cinder blocks so that one may lay it between

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<v Speaker 1>them and stomp it. Or sometimes one must just rear

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<v Speaker 1>back and send it whoop whooping out in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the river. For the most part, Father was a gentleman,

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<v Speaker 1>but fishing was for him a sort of ventilation shaft

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<v Speaker 1>through which raged the sound and fury of his Simian predecessors.

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<v Speaker 1>My final recommendation to all of you is twofold. First,

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<v Speaker 1>go read trash fish and then anything else that grabs

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<v Speaker 1>your fancy from keeler. Then whip up a half dozen

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<v Speaker 1>or more bugger ducks and go fishing. You won't need

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<v Speaker 1>a recipe, but here's the suggestion. After the half rotten

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<v Speaker 1>duck feather prototype, Greg refined the pattern a bit and

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<v Speaker 1>substituted actual maraboo, which works well. But any supple feathers

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<v Speaker 1>will do. And really you don't even need feathers. You

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<v Speaker 1>can hack off a chunk of fur from your dog,

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<v Speaker 1>or steal that lock of hair from your first child

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<v Speaker 1>someone's been saving in a shoe box. Just find some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of material that moves and lash it to the

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<v Speaker 1>back of a weighted long shank took with duct tape.

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<v Speaker 1>Cut the tape, or let's be honest here, tear it

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<v Speaker 1>off with your teeth, lay the ragged edge down and boom,

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<v Speaker 1>You're done. You just tie a fly or made a

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<v Speaker 1>fly whatever. So that is it. In case you fast

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<v Speaker 1>forwarded to this very part, Miles is leaving bent. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a nervous rack, but that uneasy feeling

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<v Speaker 1>in my stomach might just be from the taco bell

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<v Speaker 1>seafood salad. I just date, you really got to stop

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<v Speaker 1>drowning your sorrows and experimental fast food. Joe, just just

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<v Speaker 1>drink too much whiskey like a normal degenerate. You'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>live longer. You're right, and I've been drinking a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of whiskey lately. Me too. Bullshit aside, man, uh, creating

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<v Speaker 1>the show with you every week for the past year

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<v Speaker 1>has been one of the highlights of my career. When

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<v Speaker 1>when we first came up with this concept, I really

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<v Speaker 1>think you and I were the only ones who thought

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<v Speaker 1>it had a prayer of working. And like two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>and here we are, uh not everything we have tried

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<v Speaker 1>has been successful, but the idea, the concept that the

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<v Speaker 1>heart of the show has endured, and damn it, we've

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<v Speaker 1>been willing to fail in order to make something unique. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I respect, I respect a lot of things. Man. I

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<v Speaker 1>respect your work, ethic, your wit. You take the job

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<v Speaker 1>of making fishing media seriously without taking yourself too seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>You understand the craft without being precious about it. No bullshit,

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<v Speaker 1>this really is one of the most difficult decisions I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever made in my professional life. I have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>what the I'm gonna do Monday mornings when I can't

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<v Speaker 1>call you up to just talk like I can't just

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<v Speaker 1>call you to talk about whatever bullshit is on my

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<v Speaker 1>mind under the guys of planning the following week's show,

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<v Speaker 1>which is really my routine. Uh. And to all of you,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, I'm talking about you degenerates out there who

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<v Speaker 1>have tuned in for the past year, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>give my sincere appreciation and thanks. Thanks for inviting me

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<v Speaker 1>into your truck cabs and sedan's, your earbuds, your headphones.

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<v Speaker 1>You only get so many hours, and I am grateful

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<v Speaker 1>for the hours you chose to spend listen to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks also, to all of you who have reached out

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about books or fishing or life or moral quandaries.

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<v Speaker 1>Get a lot of moral quandaries. Yeah, keep those coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Reading your emails has been one of the best parts

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<v Speaker 1>of his job. And if you're not too piste off

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<v Speaker 1>at me for leaving ben uh, please don't hesitate to

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<v Speaker 1>reach out in the future to all our KEYWI listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna need some new fishing and drinking buddies. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you're willing to put up with a gangly yank,

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<v Speaker 1>please holler. I won't be monitoring the bent account anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>but Joe will pass along messages. I hope, yes, I will.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say, dude, that was That was the nicest

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<v Speaker 1>ship that anybody has ever said about me. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think you know this, but part of the reason I

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<v Speaker 1>signed on with meat Eater was to work with you

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<v Speaker 1>and make a podcast with you. So this hurts. And

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<v Speaker 1>the best I can do, though, is like keep it

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<v Speaker 1>going for both of us, like keep the benching moving forward. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's always weird when you do like a final

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<v Speaker 1>thing like this, It's like you're not dying. I could

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<v Speaker 1>still talk. We're still talk on Monday like it's like

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<v Speaker 1>so sad for the listener, Like Myles and I are

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<v Speaker 1>still going to hang out on occasion, He's just not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna bring the show. Yes anyway. In regards to those emails,

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<v Speaker 1>in addition to being miles personal ad service, the Bend

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<v Speaker 1>Email will continue performing its normal functions, So do please

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<v Speaker 1>keep sending your salbing items, bar nominations, awkward photos, and

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<v Speaker 1>offers of free lords and flies intended four miles to

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<v Speaker 1>Bent at the mediator dot com. I will be intercepting those.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep using those degenerate Angler and Bent podcast hashtags on

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<v Speaker 1>the Graham And speaking of the Graham, do me a

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<v Speaker 1>solid and fire off some well wishes to my man

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<v Speaker 1>because it's been an integral part of this show. We

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<v Speaker 1>could not have gotten this far without the solid team

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<v Speaker 1>work we've had over the last year, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to miss you dude. Likewise, brother and for those of

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<v Speaker 1>you who have been here since day one, this is

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Tight Lines its ever ever everla a Ast