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Speaker 1: Your content cheers me up faster than the prozac guy

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Speaker 1: swipe from my aunt Rudi's Linnen closet. Good morning, degenerate anglers,

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Speaker 1: While I can't think of anything more appropriate to start

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Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna make this like a fun cherry sendoff.

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Speaker 1: Consider this the awkward break room farewell address delivered by

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Speaker 1: none other than Mr Lance V. To the boats, to

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Speaker 1: the like, to the sea, getting up the net. Job

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Speaker 1: with Miles gone. Hashtag I've been waiting for this hashtag

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Speaker 1: Who's the loser now? Nw merrow one oh insta hate.

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Speaker 1: But unfortunately for Miles, is education stopped at MySpace Community College.

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Speaker 1: you should have been nicer to me, asshole Numero trace

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Speaker 1: hashtag goocchiese while hogs are getting roped, toads are getting jacked,

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Speaker 1: dead toad, now, can you. Miles interest During pretty much

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Speaker 1: case and of you are wondering, Yes, I'm in talks

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Speaker 1: Now that the power is unilaterally in your hands, I

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Speaker 1: It is it, It is it, This is it. This

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Speaker 1: We'll walk away bloodied but victorious, and the loser feeds

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Speaker 1: the stakes are high, is what I'm saying. This really

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Speaker 1: it's your last one and it's also your lead is

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Speaker 1: done here still the chocolate to our cheese to reference

422
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Speaker 1: a ween, Altu will pass judgment on both of us

423
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 1: together one last time, take it away, and the loser

424
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: will shed a tear for Eddie. Alright, So I I

425
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: am going to shamelessly pander this time because the stakes

426
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 1: are so I'm a pander to the masses and hope

427
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Speaker 1: that Phil takes mercy on me. Right. Record stories are

428
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: two phishing podcasts as a Grip and Grins are to Instagram. Right,

429
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Speaker 1: And because I have not done a record round up

430
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Speaker 1: in many months, I will begin there. I have three

431
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Speaker 1: recently certified fish records to tell you about, two of

432
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: which involve estock specimens in Minnesota that were released. We

433
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: try to we try to balance harvest and and and release.

434
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Speaker 1: On the show I Fish, You Eat Fish. We both

435
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 1: kill fish, but we're thoughtful about it. We're thoughtful about

436
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: what we kill and what we release. Generally speaking, releasing

437
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 1: large mature fish benefits the broader population and that's especially

438
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 1: true for slow growing apex predators like pike and muskie.

439
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: This summer, Minnesota broke or met the state catch and

440
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: release records for both of these species, and though totally anecdotal,

441
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: I think this suggests that management efforts and catch and

442
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: release ethics for these fish is working. Well. Sure, that's

443
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: that's the general trend, and we're seeing a bear out.

444
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: So if you like big toothy fish and live in

445
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: the Gopher State, you're living the good old days. Enjoy them.

446
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 1: Brecon Koballecki is definitely living his good old days. But

447
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: since he's only fifteen years old, he probably doesn't know

448
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: that yet. He doesn't know what a good day is yet.

449
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:27,959
Speaker 1: He's yet not yet. On June, Brecon caught a forty

450
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: six and a quarter inch northern pike. Now just take

451
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: a second and let that sink in. A fifteen year

452
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: old caught a northern pike over forty six inches in

453
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Speaker 1: the lower forty eight states this year. I was gonna

454
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 1: say that I've done forty six but I had to

455
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: go to the Tippity Top of Saskatchewan to do it.

456
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: So that's impressive exactly. And as I peer out my

457
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: window through wildfire smokes so thick that I can't see

458
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: the nearby mountains, causing air quality so bad that my

459
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 1: kid isn't supposed to play outside. I'm smiling. It may

460
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 1: look like it may look and feel like the dust

461
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: cloud kicked up by the four horsemen is growing thick

462
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 1: enough to obscure the sun itself. But all cannot be

463
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: lost if pike like that still swim in our waters.

464
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: When I was a kid, a thirty inch pike in

465
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: that latitude was a cause for celebration. Brecon's fish could

466
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: eat a thirty inch pike, and best of all, she's

467
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: still swimming alright. So Brecon and his dad were on

468
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 1: vacation in Elie, Minnesota, and they had hired a guide

469
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: for the day to take them fishing. Their day was

470
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: nearly over, and with just ten minutes left before heading

471
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 1: back to the dock, they hooked up on the pike

472
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: while trolling. The fish bests the previous record by exactly

473
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Speaker 1: one inch. While there are some aspects of the story

474
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Speaker 1: that feel reminiscent of your your recent reporting on Michigan's

475
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: new record Chinook, namely that it was caught by a

476
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Speaker 1: teenager while trolling. The kid who caught. This fish does

477
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,479
Speaker 1: not seem like a disinterested gen Z meat puppet with

478
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: no appreciation for what just happened to him. You are

479
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: bringing it, Breckon told local reporters, quote, the whole experience

480
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: went by in a flash. But it was the experience

481
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: of a lifetime. I'll never forget. And even though he

482
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: was just speaking in platitudes because he was talking to reporters,

483
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: I don't care. Congratulations Breckon, Yeah, man, that's a that's

484
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: an insane fish for the lower fore and and and

485
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: don't expect that to ever happen again. Just down the

486
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: road from Elis Lake for a million, which has a

487
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: very well earned reputation for growing huge muskies, which is

488
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: why Todd Kirby went fishing there with a few friends,

489
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: just ahead of an incoming front and had one of

490
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: those nights that make other musky anglers seethed with jealousy.

491
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 1: He told local reporters quote, that Friday night, we were

492
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 1: up against the weather. There was a huge storm front

493
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: moving through, creating extremely unstable conditions. The humidity was high

494
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: and storm clouds were building. It was one of those

495
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: nights that the fish seemed to be super active. Our

496
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: boat had multiple chases, one resulting in a forty eight

497
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: inch fish in the net at that time, my personal best.

498
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: At ten thirty, his lure got hit again and he

499
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: broke his personal best for the second time in just

500
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Speaker 1: a couple of hours. In spectacular fashion. The fish taped

501
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: out at fifty seven and a quarter inches, tying the

502
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: standing catch and release muskie record for Minnesota, which was

503
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: also set on Lake for a Million in two thousand nineteen.

504
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: We are all very happy for Todd. Actually that's not true.

505
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: We all kind of hate Todd, but we are happy

506
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: to know that trophy pike and muskie are alive and

507
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: well in Minnesota. Can I just can I just sad?

508
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: You know what's worse than musky fishing all day and

509
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: not catching any muskies? Uh, musky fishing all night and

510
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: not catching which I've done. I've done. I've gone out

511
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: there specifically to be like, oh, nighttime, musty fishing. I

512
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: love night fishing. That was awful. That was awful because

513
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: like everything else goes to bed, like so you're not

514
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: there's no bycatcher, and it's like this is terrible. I

515
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: am cold and we've eaten all the jerky hours ago.

516
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: But good for him. That to hell of a fish,

517
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: so someone's got to do it kind of you, And yeah,

518
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: good for him. And we also have to appreciate that

519
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,479
Speaker 1: Todd's fish was caught casting, not trolling. Let's give him

520
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: that to dude. There you go. Yep. But probably my

521
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: favorite part of this story was Todd's description of the

522
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: fight to the media. He said, quote, I compare it

523
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: to really get a large moving log. After a few

524
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: dark splashes, she was in the net. Now. I don't

525
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: know this. This might support your theory that fish don't

526
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: fight as well at night. Uh, But either way, I

527
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: love the fact that Todd was honest, right, he didn't

528
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: try to invent some heroic Hemingway esque battle to play

529
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: up his trophy. When the media asked him, he was like, yep,

530
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: it just came in like a long that's what happened. Well, dude,

531
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: And you know what, I of him a lot of

532
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: credit for saying that, because and this is not taken

533
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: away anything from musky dudes, because I appreciate what you

534
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: all do. But you don't catch a muskie for the

535
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: drag ripping fight, right you, Like most guys, it's heavy gear.

536
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: You want that fish in the bag right away. It's

537
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: the eat, right It's like the figure eight and the

538
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: boatside eat and the swipe and all that. But he's like,

539
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: I've never caught a musky at night, as I've just

540
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: told you. But that is truly no bullshit. Like I

541
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: love mouson for browns. You know, um, they don't they

542
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're just like super confused and

543
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on because it's dark when they

544
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: get stuck. But they do not fight nearly as well

545
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: at night. I don't fight nearly as well night either.

546
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: Well you got you got a good point. But good

547
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: on him for not making that out to be some

548
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: epic battle because they get it. And all. This brings

549
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: me to the final record in this week's record roundup,

550
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: which was caught by Dr Bob Timpson off the coast

551
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: of North Carolina and also didn't put up much of

552
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: a fight. Dr Timpson and some friends were grouper fishing

553
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: with local guide Captain Hiroke Tilma in two hundred fift

554
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: of water, and while all his buddies were catching grouper,

555
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: Dr Timpson was getting hosed over the course of the morning.

556
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: He had only brought in a greater soap fish and

557
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: a spotted scorpion fish. Now, I for one would have

558
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: been pretty pumped about the scorpion fish, but he was not,

559
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: and I get it. They were after grouper. Apparently Dr

560
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: Timpson was getting frustrated about his inability to catch the

561
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: target species and decided to change tactics. One of the grouper,

562
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: caught by another angler on the boat, coughed up a

563
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: relatively intact crab after coming over the rail, and Timpson

564
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: snatched the crab off the deck, put it on his

565
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: hook and dropped it down, figuring the crab had already

566
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: been munched by a grouper and might improve his chances,

567
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: and he was right kind of. The crab got eaten

568
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: soon after hitting bottom and Timpson had a fish on

569
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: the line, but once again it wasn't a grouper. The

570
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: bright orange, topical looking specimen came to the service pretty

571
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: quickly and no one in the boat, including the captain,

572
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: had any idea what it was. They initially guessed it

573
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: to be a parrot fish, which is technically possible in

574
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: north I looked it up. They have been seen as

575
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: far north as Maryland, but highly unlikely. Carl there's not

576
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: a whole ton of car all up there exactly. So

577
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: they kept it, and when they got back into service,

578
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: they did a quick Google search and identified it as

579
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: a Spanish hog fish, at which point they also realized

580
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: that the fish they had on board was far larger

581
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: than any of the examples they saw on the internet.

582
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: Happy happy accident. Ye. In fact, they discovered the world

583
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: record for Spanish hog fish weighed just one pound eight ounces.

584
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: When they finally got to a certified scale, the fish

585
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: that Dr Timpson had only recently bemoaned as unwanted bycatch

586
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: that fought like a discarded prophylactic shattered the world record

587
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: for Spanish hog fish by more than a pound. Wow,

588
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: good for him, Good for him. As great as that is,

589
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: it's also like, if not for the Internet, they never

590
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: it never would have been no be like, I don't know,

591
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: and they just have eaten it and gone on with

592
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: their lives. Well okay, well that was a terrific round up.

593
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: Good for him. Um, that's something. I have to google

594
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: the fish because I can't even picture what it looks like.

595
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: I don't even know it does. I mean, it looks like,

596
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: you know, how the hog fish have those big lips

597
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: and like the yish, it looks like a hog fish,

598
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,239
Speaker 1: but but more brightly colored and smaller. I wonder if

599
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: it's as tasty, because hog fish is freaking assumes so Like,

600
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: that's the problem with hog fish is that when I

601
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: order it in Florida, I just always assume it's not

602
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: actually hog fish because I don't trust anybody. But man,

603
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: when I've gotten it, like in person, in the flesh,

604
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: did hog fish so fantastic? Anyway? You know what else

605
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: is delicious? Snakeheads? As I've said a billion d in

606
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: one time. Um, but the person in this story uh

607
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: is not going to uh ever learn that. Okay, So

608
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 1: I was not going to do the Massachusetts snakehead story,

609
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: even though a bunch of you guys forwarded along. And

610
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: here's why. Right, the first story I read was in

611
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: the Miami Herald, and it literally could have been cut

612
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: and pasted from every single story of a snakehead showing

613
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: up in a new place. Right. The summary of that

614
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: is basically so and so caught one here. Now here's

615
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: paragraph after paragraph of the same outdated and overhyped facts

616
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: that have been written for twenty years, and its rounded

617
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: out nicely Yeah, it rounded out nicely with you know,

618
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: vague quotes from studies and surveys that also happened twenty

619
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: years ago. So I didn't really think there was that

620
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: much for me to say. But the story on Boston

621
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 1: dot Com took a much deeper dive into the angler

622
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: and his personal experience with this fish, and I started

623
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: reading that and chuckling, and I was like, Okay, here

624
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: we go. I can run with this. So that angler

625
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: is Michael Powell, and the snakehead was called in August

626
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: in Reservoir Pond in Canton, Massachusetts, which is a Boston

627
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: suburb and also noteworthy because the snakehead like rarely, if ever,

628
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 1: for all I I know, just kind of shows up

629
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: like in in in the pond next to the cornfield

630
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: in Iowa, you know what I mean. It's always always

631
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: around an urban center. UM authorities believed this one was

632
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: a pet that was released after getting too big for

633
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: its tank, which is one of the most common ways

634
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: that these fish end up everywhere that they are now.

635
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: Powell was fishing for bass that day and throwing a

636
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: hollow body mouse, so that all checks out definitely something

637
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: a a snack would chew. UM so here's what he

638
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: had to say about the hookup. I fished my whole life,

639
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: so I kind of knew what to do, and I

640
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: knew it wasn't a fish that was part of this area.

641
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: As soon as I got it on the boat, I said,

642
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: holy shit, this is a snakehead fish. Now moving on

643
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 1: to the specs the snakehead. This is from the story.

644
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: The snakehead was five pounds and thirty inches long. Negative,

645
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: it was neither of those things. And that is a

646
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: classic case of a reporter. I feel like asking an

647
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: angler how big it was after the fact, you know

648
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: what I mean, and it's like, oh, you know, like

649
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: five pounds probably thirty inches, right, So this one might

650
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: weigh three pounds at best, it might measure twenty two inches.

651
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: And remember I've caught I've caught a lot of them,

652
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: so I have a pretty decent eye for them. I

653
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: caught to fish over thirty inches this summer, and like

654
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: that length is dream status if you're into snakeheads. Those

655
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: fish were nine and a half and eleven pounds. So

656
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: the measurements are are are just inaccurate. Okay, It's it's

657
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: a pretty it's pretty small snakehead. Mike um now, and

658
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: in the story, Powell says he's been quote to the

659
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: to the bottom of YouTube and back when it comes

660
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: to fishing videos, so he was familiar with the type

661
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: of fish and new to call the authorities immediately. But then,

662
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: the story says Powell believed he'd caught a brown snakehead fish,

663
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: which has not yet been identified in the US. Do

664
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: you know why, because there's no such thing, no such

665
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: thing as a brown snakehead fish. I googled it though,

666
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: just to make sure I didn't miss something, you know

667
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: what I mean, Just make sure I didn't look stupid.

668
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: But when you google brown snakehead fish, you only get

669
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: one return, and that would be this story about Michael Powell's.

670
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: It's just it's just a great northern snakehead. It's in

671
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: a darker phase. It's that's fine. Um fun facts. This

672
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: is not the first snake had caught in Massachusetts. This

673
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: makes number five since two thousand two. But it seems

674
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: like in all cases they were dealing with a loner

675
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: adult fish, and there's been no evidence of reproduction in

676
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: the wild up there, right. So Powell reported this to

677
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: the proper authorities, and they asked him to keep the

678
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: fish alive for them, but they couldn't get there to

679
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: collect it until the next day. So Powell says, I

680
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: don't really have an aquarium I can stick in't. So

681
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: what I did is I dragged one of my buddies

682
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: boats on land and filled it with water and we

683
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: put him in there. I put some plywood over it,

684
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: and then cinder blocks over the plywood, made sure it

685
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: didn't get out, because they're known for getting out of

686
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: aquariums and crawling around. So this all this all ties

687
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: back to just like the overhead yeah right, um. And

688
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 1: then the final quote, which sounds like it was given

689
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: to a TV reporter, Powell says, did you see the

690
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: teeth on that thing? Try catching it. I didn't know

691
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: what the hell to do with it, and I fished

692
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: my whole life. We had it out of the water

693
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: for two hours while I was trying to figure out

694
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: what to put it in. And as soon as you

695
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: put it in the water, it let out a giant

696
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: gulp of air and started breathing through its skills. Again,

697
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: I said, that's it. I don't want to see it anymore.

698
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: It's doing stuff that fish aren't supposed to do. Come on, man,

699
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: like is it gonna haunt your dreams? You know what

700
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: I mean? Like if it were me, I'd be out

701
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: there all the time wondering what if there's one, there

702
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: might be more, you know what I mean? Like clearly,

703
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: like I don't know. Dude's not not embracing this. So

704
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: um mass DNR will study it, which, like I said,

705
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 1: means no fish tacos for pal, which is probably smart

706
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: so he doesn't worry. It'll like multiply in his stomach

707
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: and he'll have snakeheads bursting from every orifice. What is

708
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: it about these fish, dude? What is it? I honestly,

709
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, because there there's so many invasive species around,

710
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: and we talk about invasive species a lot, and we

711
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: know they're a problem. I'm not saying that these fish

712
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: aren't a problem, But there's something about these fish that

713
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: captures the imagination of the media and people like nothing

714
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 1: else except maybe sharks. I am convinced, um and I

715
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: don't want to give too much away, but like, wait

716
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: wait till the new b Side season drops later this year,

717
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: Like you want to see some snakeheads ship. Like I'm

718
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: gonna say you have some snakehead ship, But I am.

719
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: I am thoroughly convinced that it is purely media fear driven.

720
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: Oh it is. But why did the media pick this

721
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: one because it's called a snakehead, because it's called a

722
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: snakehead as it's mean looking, because it has teeth, and

723
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: we it's like we're beating a dead horse. Right. The

724
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: whole walking on land thing is not inaccurate, but it

725
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 1: is a survival mechanism. But it was sold to people

726
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: so hard in those early years that these would just

727
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: destroy everything. So it actually is inaccurate though, because I

728
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: did a deep dive in this in preparing for the

729
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 1: new season of Dos Boat. Right, northern snakehead can't crawl

730
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: across land or live out of water for three days.

731
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 1: There is another subspecies of snakehead they can do it,

732
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: but not the northern snakead not the ones that are here.

733
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, well three days no way. But dude, I've

734
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: I've walked up on snakeheads crawling across wet grass, right,

735
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: So my point it's not that they can't. The northern

736
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: snakeheads can come out of water. They need to be hydrated,

737
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 1: like it needs to be murdered. Wet grass. They can't

738
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: crawl down Route one past is like, that's not gonna happen. Um.

739
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: But I just think that there was so much like

740
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: driven into people's heads, like media latched on. It is

741
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: so hard early on that it is just stuck with

742
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: too many people. And there are so many worse things

743
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: in our waterways all over this country than these, I

744
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: mean they. The truth is there were two separate horror

745
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: films released with snakeheads as the primary fear based bad

746
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 1: guy horror films. Look at that, there are two snakehead

747
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: horror films out there. That's how obsessed we are with

748
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 1: these fish. It doesn't make any sense. But I mean, dude,

749
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: this dude doesn't seem stoked at all. Like be stoked, dude.

750
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: You've caught a million bass and you've got it all

751
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: afraid of it on a mouse. That's great, that's rad.

752
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: That is rad. So there you go, Massachusetts snakeheads apparently

753
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: they're just they're not gonna they're not gonna latch on

754
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 1: up there in Boston. Snakeheads. They may be able to

755
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: crawl for short distances on damp land, but you know

756
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: what they can't do, Joe, What's that? They can't fly? No,

757
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 1: they can't know. But my second story is about fish

758
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: that can fly sort of. So for for this story,

759
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: I'm going back to Lake for a Million in Minnesota,

760
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: because in recent weeks an odd phenomenon has been troubling

761
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: the locals. They've been finding fish in places where fish

762
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 1: don't belong. Strange it sounds fish do on occasion fall

763
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: from the sky. In fact, according to the book It's Raining,

764
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: fish and spiders creatures fall from the sky about forty

765
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: times a year. This occurs when tornadoes or water spouts

766
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: form over large bodies of water and suck fish and

767
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 1: water up from the surface into the storm. The storm

768
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 1: then moves over land and drops the fish, giving the

769
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: impression of fish rain. But there have been no tornadoes

770
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 1: or water spouts anywhere near Lake for a Million recently.

771
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: According to local newspaper The Timber Jay, numerous residents have

772
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: reported finding fish on decks, law driveways, streets, and in

773
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: the woods, sometimes nowhere near the shore of the lake itself.

774
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: The vast majority of these fish are tulibies, also known

775
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: as Cisco's. The one resident reported finding an eighteen inch

776
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: walle in his yard. To make things even well, at

777
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: least slightly stranger. Many of the fish are headless and mutilated. Oh,

778
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: the obvious question is why in the name of God

779
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: or fish falling from the sky. I mean, I know,

780
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: I was just saying that all those record fish catches

781
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: make me feel like we're not living through the initial

782
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: wave of the apocalypse, But mangled fish raining down upon

783
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: small Midwestern towns might force me to rethink that assessment. Thankfully.

784
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: Is this an X files or a real story? I've

785
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: heard this before. I think it was squids though, are

786
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: like jelly like blobs looking up the timber j They

787
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: did some damn good reporting, and from the timber j

788
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: we know according to local gossip and science, this is

789
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: an splainable event. It's not a harbinger of the end times.

790
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: First we'll hit the gossip. Residents told the paper that

791
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: they believe the Pissine precipitation is actually the result of raptors.

792
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: When water temperatures rise on lake for million, tulabies die

793
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 1: off in large numbers, and the eagles and osprey take

794
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: advantage of the free meals. Locals think that the birds

795
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: have so much food they're just scattering it around Willie

796
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: Nelly all over the place. Biologists agree that eagles and

797
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: osprey are the mechanism for fish transport, but the rest

798
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: of that theory doesn't hold up. Matt Hennan, the d

799
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:38,479
Speaker 1: n r's local large Lake specialist, recently tested oxygen levels

800
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 1: in lake for milion and found them fully oxygen aated

801
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: down to thirty seven feet. He also said that the

802
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: d n R has seen no evidence of a fish

803
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: kill in recent weeks. Those fish are, however, moving into

804
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: the shallows this time a year to feed on abundant

805
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: zoe plankton and prepare to spawn. He also said that

806
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: eagle populations around the lake are at an all time high,

807
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: so his hypothesis is that the eagles, in preparation for

808
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: their own upcoming seasonal change, are competing with each other

809
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: for available food. They're scooping up the tulibes as they

810
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: move into shallow water, but in route to a nest

811
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: or tree to eat the fish, they're running into other

812
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: eagles who want to steal their meal and then getting

813
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: into these aerial dog fights. And then fish fall from

814
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: the sky, sometimes decapitated. Once has anybody like seen one

815
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: fall from the sky, like if they physically watched it?

816
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 1: Far are you getting there? I don't know the answer

817
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: that question. Actually, like what people fish on the ground,

818
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: I know, yes, you're really shifting on the Timber j

819
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: somebody works there and I got the story from them.

820
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: They did great work. They talked to locals, they talked

821
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: to the biologist. There's some good quotes in that story.

822
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: Everyone subscribed to the Timber J If you live around

823
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: like Familion, I don't think anybody has seen one fall

824
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: from the sky. But they're in places that they had

825
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: to have fallen. And there were some photos and it's

826
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: clear like this thing fell down. It wasn't act all right,

827
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 1: all right? And as interesting as I find the story,

828
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: and I do you know what this makes me think of?

829
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm stuck with. What I'm thinking about

830
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 1: the poor person who will go to clean out their

831
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: gutters in a couple of months, oh yeah, and find

832
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: a fully rotten tool to be jammed in a downspout.

833
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: Just the nastiest thing you could ever imagine that thinking

834
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: about this is such a dad like not cool thing

835
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: to say. Gutter guards best investment in my life. I

836
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 1: can't say enough good things about my gutter guards. We

837
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: could talk about him for hours. Who needs weed guards?

838
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: I got gutter guards right on. Yeah, that's it. That's

839
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: all I got from the guy. Ending ended on the

840
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: rotten tool be jammed into a down spout. That's the

841
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 1: image I want to leave all of you with your

842
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: welcome Yeah. Okay that yeah, that that that that would

843
00:46:58,560 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: not be good to take that out of there. I

844
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: don't really know what kind of good follow up I

845
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: have to that. I mean, it feels it seems like

846
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: mystery solved. But what came into my head, It's like,

847
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I ended on that because I

848
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: was like, how could he ever transition from a rotten

849
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: tool to be jammed in a gutter to anything fish

850
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: news worthy? Oh but I but I am. But I'm

851
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: about to but I want to just say a little bit.

852
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: It's a loose connection, but it's a little bit. It's

853
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: actually nothing to do with the gutter. It's going to

854
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: be more about eagles. But now I'm getting ahead of myself.

855
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: But as soon as you started telling the story, I'm like,

856
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: this is the kind of stuff you see on those

857
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: like um Paranormal of history on science Shannow. You know,

858
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: it was a cold day and wherever Kentucky when started? Yeah?

859
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: Seven exactly. So, Um, here's what I'll say. If the

860
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: eagles run out of toolabes, they might want to head

861
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: on over to the Illinois River, where things have gotten

862
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: much safer to eat lately. How about that? So I alright, fair,

863
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: fair four point five. You know, just keep on theme

864
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: with that with Ben Anyway, pc bees, I think most

865
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: of you know what they are, and in case you

866
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: do not, they are poly chlorinated by phenals. PCBs were

867
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: widely used as an insulator in electrical equipment and in

868
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 1: other industrial equipment. Now PCBs are one of the leading

869
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: contributors to do not eat or consumption warnings being placed

870
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 1: on certain waterways, and as Jersey guy, I am highly

871
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: familiar with these warnings. I have been eaten PCB since

872
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: I was knee high to a grasshopper. Um. Matter of fact,

873
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: there there's been one on the Hudson River in Raretan

874
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: Bay where we filmed episode one of dost Boats season three,

875
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: for a very long time. Um. The thing is, though,

876
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: I think like people get nuts so about these warnings.

877
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes like just nuts. And in most cases warnings tell

878
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: you to eat fish from a contaminated area in moderation.

879
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: They don't often say never if you have a catfish

880
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: from the Striper Hudson once or twice the season, you're fine.

881
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 1: Pregnant women, young girls, nursing mothers, they need to be

882
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: extra cautious. But generally speaking, unless you're eating fish or

883
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: shell fish from that water daily or weekly, this is

884
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: not that big a deal, but people love to cling

885
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,479
Speaker 1: to it. So um. Spoiler alert. Episode four of dost

886
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: Boats season three was filmed on the Potomac in d

887
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 1: C with chef Kevin Gillespie and they caught blue cats

888
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: and oh my god. People went nuts when they posted

889
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: photos like you can't eat a fish from there, ever,

890
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 1: it's a death sentence, and blah blah, it's not okay.

891
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: They feel like these are the same people that like,

892
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: you know, you'll sit behind a bus at a traffic

893
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: light breeding in the exhaust and like you don't worry

894
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: about that, but you're gonna worry about one catfish um.

895
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: And people I think down the tenth cigarette they've been

896
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: like catfish um. But people I think also forget um

897
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: that a lot of the fish you purchase in the

898
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: fish market probably has some level of contaminants in it too, right,

899
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: So it's just anyway PCBs were banned by the Environmental

900
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: Protection Agency in nineteen seventy nine, but they were used

901
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: so heavily for so long um that they've been contaminating

902
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: to raise ever since. They don't just go away easily.

903
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: So here we are forty two years after the band,

904
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: and there may be some hope that in certain places

905
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: those PCBs might finally be diluting or sort of burning

906
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: out and going away. The Illinois Department of Public Health

907
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: recently took the last remaining fish off the do not

908
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: eat list for the Illinois River, and that would be

909
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: the Channel catfish. So PCBs collecting the mud in the

910
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: silton sludge and the soft bottom. Therefore, species like catfish

911
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: that do most of their eating on the bottom always

912
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: have higher levels of of PCBs than fish that tend

913
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: to feed further up in the water column move around more.

914
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: So to take them off the list of a river

915
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: with an incredibly long industrial background is to me pretty significant,

916
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: So from the story on Advantage news dot com, the

917
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: DPH regularly monitors Illinois River for contaminants. Fish from each

918
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: stretch of the two and seventy mile along Illinois River

919
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: are sampled every five years, year by year as contamination

920
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: levels have improved, specific types of fish have been removed

921
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: from the do not Eat list. Only channel catfish from

922
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: two stretches of the Illinois River in northern industrial areas

923
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: remained on the list this year, and then in August,

924
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: using the most current data, the DPH was finally able

925
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: to clear the channel catfish from the list. So there

926
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: have been some strategic cleanup efforts on the Illinois over

927
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: the years. But as I understand it, we're also just

928
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: seeing again that natural burnout. After forty years, these PCBs

929
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: are just starting to break down. So this could be

930
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 1: a a good sign for similar rivers and bodies of

931
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: water with similar problems. And I found that a little

932
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: bit uplifting. Yeah, I mean, are they burning out? Is

933
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: that that they have a half life or are they

934
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: half like atomic particles. I think it's a combination of both,

935
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 1: just flushing over time and turnover in these rivers, And

936
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: I mean they will they do have a half life.

937
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 1: They will just sort of break down eventually. It just

938
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: takes a really long time. So I mean we're talking

939
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: about breakdown that that I mean the process started in

940
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: nine nine, so it's taken a really long time. But

941
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: it's a little glimmer of if you're thinking about different

942
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,720
Speaker 1: pollutants and the things we worry about, particularly like nuclear waste.

943
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 1: Forty years is nothing, right, I mean, like you have

944
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: like millions of years of half life on some of

945
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: this stuff. So this is like kind of good news.

946
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: It goes away. I mean, it's it's a long time

947
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: in a single person's life span. It's not that long

948
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: in terms of like the longevity of pollutants really right,

949
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: Like they're not going to break ground on the on

950
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: the hard rock chernobyl to at least five or something

951
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: like that, you know what I mean. So, no, that's great, man.

952
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: I appreciate the upliving. It's it's uplifting in a number

953
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: of diferent ways. One always like to hear about rivers

954
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: getting cleaned up, but also catfish anglers on the Illinois River. Yeah,

955
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: every day, every day, kill them off. There's not enough

956
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: hassautry seafood breader in the world, there you. So we've ended,

957
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: we've ended news on an uplifting note. We're gonna, we're gonna,

958
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna get phills. Last judgment of me and Miles

959
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: here together, and then we're just gonna bring somebody straight

960
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: down and do one final Awkward Moments in angling. Wow, Miles,

961
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: I can't believe it's your last show. Um. I normally

962
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: play a kind of a stupid character when I do

963
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: these Fish New segments, but I just want to get

964
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: a little sincere here and say that editing Bent is

965
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 1: honestly the highlight of my week and I'm really gonna

966
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,919
Speaker 1: miss you being a part of that. Um. Just good

967
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: luck with your your next journey. That being said, Joe Sirmellie,

968
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: you are the winner of fish News this week. No, no,

969
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: it's not. It's Miles. I'm not that big of an asshole. Miles.

970
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: I just want to say one more thing. You take

971
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 1: my breath away and remember the next time you're on

972
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: the highway to the danger zone. I know that I've

973
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 1: always got that love and feeling, but it's a back

974
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 1: of pixture, a live black So I think it's fair

975
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: to say that Awkward Moments has been one of our

976
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: personal favorite segments. Like we've we've really had a great

977
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: time with it, and I promise that no matter what

978
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: Bent looks like going forward, awkward Moments will not go away.

979
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: Right it is. It's just it's just too much fun.

980
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: And I need you guys keep sending and tagging your

981
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: embarrassing shots, because if you don't, I'll have no one

982
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: but myself to make fun of all the time. And

983
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: while I'd never run out of things to make fun

984
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: of about myself, it's just a nice break to trash

985
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 1: someone else from time to time. So awkward rides on,

986
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: you know, and as it has to, because from the

987
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: very beginning we knew that we wanted to make fun

988
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 1: of the genre of the hero shot. It's just it's

989
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: so right for ridicule, and yet we all do it.

990
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: We just can't help ourselves. And and this week Joe

991
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 1: found us a gem, which is maybe, I think, maybe

992
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: the perfect closer for us to do together, because while

993
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: it's definitely awkward, it also kind of captures everything Bent

994
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: is about in one frame. It could be it could

995
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: be a Bent poster. We've said so many times that

996
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: we strive to be the place where all anglers are welcome,

997
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: where we're not siloed into being all fly or all

998
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: salt or all bass like so many other podcasts. I know,

999
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: damn well, you are going to maintain that going forward.

1000
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: But if you need some short term help. You might

1001
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: want to call Jeremy Creed, the subject of this photo.

1002
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: I I might want to call him, or at least

1003
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: if I ever need a bodyguard while fishing, I'll know

1004
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: who to call. Um. Look, the fact is we can

1005
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: spare in an entire episode dissecting this shot. But per

1006
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 1: lance V, your shift at Chili's starts in an hour

1007
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: or so, so we just don't have that kind of time. Okay,

1008
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: So this is a This is a vertical photo of

1009
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,720
Speaker 1: a shirtless Jeremy who's wearing a backpack, and he's standing

1010
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: in the stream, and he's holding up a decent smallmouth

1011
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 1: bass two pounds maybe decent fish, good smally right, So,

1012
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 1: working from the top down, as as sometimes we do,

1013
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 1: we'll start with Jeremy's glasses. They are wrap around frameless glasses,

1014
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: possibly Oakley or knockoff flea market Oakley. And they're exactly

1015
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 1: what I've described in past awkward moments as ken Griffy Jr. Sunglasses.

1016
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: Now in his in his mouth is a fly rod.

1017
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: My money is on flea market knockoffs looks like those

1018
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: those are not. But I I understand why Jeremy's doing

1019
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: the rod biting pose here. But I still don't like it.

1020
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: His hands are occupied. One is busy lipping that smally vertically,

1021
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: and the other is holding a very nice wooden landing

1022
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: net with a ghost bag. I applaud this, okay, He

1023
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: Jeremy is worried, doesn't want the fish to wiggle out

1024
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,439
Speaker 1: of his hand and hurt itself. That's great. But while

1025
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: I do applaud the fish handling, I have just never

1026
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: cared for the rod in mouth pose. Can I interrupt

1027
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: for one second ask does that shot of you exist anywhere?

1028
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: Because I can't give him as hard of a time

1029
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: because there are shots of me doing that. But have

1030
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: you ever done that? I have done that. I'm not.

1031
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I've never done it, but I have.

1032
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: It's been at least ten years since I've done so

1033
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: I feel like I can say I have learned from

1034
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: my past mistakes and I'm not trying to avoid it.

1035
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,919
Speaker 1: But they exist of me? Is what I'm sure someone

1036
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: will find one of me and and make fun of it.

1037
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: And what I have to say to Jeremy in this photo,

1038
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: and and also to myself from my twenties, we get it.

1039
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: The Smalley the fish was fly caught good for you.

1040
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: But news flash, you also kind of look like a

1041
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: tool with that graphite in your teeth. Again, this is

1042
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: just my opinion, and the rod bite maneuver is is

1043
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: actually pretty standard in fly angler gripping grins. So that's

1044
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: about as far as I can go there. But beyond that,

1045
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: ship kind of gets weird in this photo. Yeah, so far,

1046
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: there's nothing out of the ordinary here, right, But then

1047
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: protruding straight up from the center of Jeremy's lower abdomen

1048
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: like a bad case of morning would is a spinning roun. Okay,

1049
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: he's got the handle jammed into the waistband of his

1050
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: quick Dry fishing pants and just the way that like

1051
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: it's got to be tapping his naughty bits. Okay, but

1052
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: that's not all right. Jammed into that waistband in the

1053
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: same central location, same place as the rod is his

1054
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: cell phone and a nine millimeter pistol. Yeah, that's that's

1055
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,479
Speaker 1: a lot of weight. I'm not I am not sure

1056
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: how those nylon quick dry pants are staying up frankly,

1057
00:58:55,880 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: but that's also not the main concern here because there's

1058
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: a lot going on. You put this whole package together

1059
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: and it's it's like pseudo tactical. Jeremy's trying to be

1060
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: prepared for every possibility. May fly start hatching, Bam, He's

1061
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: got the fly rod deep, whip out the spinner, get

1062
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: him down. Should he encounter a selfie crisis, which he

1063
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: seems of the age that that might be a problem,

1064
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: he's covered. And if a bear or wolf, for yetty

1065
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: or homicidal maniac just happens to jump out of the bushes,

1066
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: the pistol is at the ready. But I said pseudo tactical,

1067
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: because if Jeremy was actually deep in the tactical world,

1068
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: he'd have like special holsters for all these things that

1069
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: would keep them on his waist band, on the outside

1070
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: or elsewhere, not jammed into his pants. Right, he wouldn't

1071
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: have a rod, butt, camera, phone, and pistol all pointed

1072
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: straight at his junk and only held up by the

1073
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: power of wasteband and beer gut. Now, well, it's easy

1074
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: to crack jokes about this shot. This is this is

1075
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: what ties it all together. The truth is this was

1076
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: and kind of still is me and this shot is

1077
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: bent right like I was the kid in love with

1078
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: fly fishing, but not in love with the idea that

1079
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: that I might miss opportunities because I only brought a

1080
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: fly rod. So most of the time when I had

1081
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: weighed a smallmouth river or a trout stream, there was

1082
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: either a fly rod broken down of my backpack or

1083
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: a spinning rod sticking out of my backpack or waiter belt.

1084
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: And if there's one resounding message here on Ben, it's that,

1085
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: God damn it, that's okay, you can do that. Yes,

1086
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: and and you're right, that is That is the message.

1087
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: And I may, I may, I may have been a

1088
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: little too hard on young Jeremy. I really do applaud

1089
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: his preparedness in versatility. It's the firearms safety thing that's

1090
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: getting You can talk about that for a set. I

1091
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: just I hope he's getting a little more careful with

1092
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: how he carries a firearm. It's I'm glad he's got it.

1093
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: I want him to be prepared and safe. That's all great,

1094
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: but poor poor firearms handling is not bent. Just the

1095
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: fishing stuff, the fishing stuff there, and and awkwardly sticking

1096
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: your cell phone somewhere, No doubt that's me. And God

1097
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: knows I spent years awkwardly lugging every kind of fishing

1098
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: implement I owned. Strapped in whatever way I could to

1099
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: whatever second hand backpack I could afford. I did that

1100
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: for years. Yeah, you threw it all, and you threw

1101
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: it all in your jam sport and off you tell me,

1102
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,959
Speaker 1: tell me like nine times out of ten you would

1103
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: regret it too, Like you'd want to go into it

1104
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: that way, but she'd be like trying to crawl through

1105
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: ship and the spinning rods caught in the trees, or

1106
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: like it falls out of your waiter belt and a

1107
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: deep hole. Like it was always it was always a disaster.

1108
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: But I always did that. I just wanted to leave

1109
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: no fish on the table because of my inability to

1110
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: decide on method of chasing them anyway. Do you remember,

1111
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: like what makes you think of an image? Do you

1112
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: remember the one man band? Yeah? I always kind of

1113
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: felt like the one man band guy who sort of

1114
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: had every instrument strap to be somewhere playing. It's so inefficient,

1115
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: it's so inefficient, but it's so great And Jeremy, we

1116
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: really appreciate the shot again man, such a fitting closer

1117
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: for Miles. Not a tag team. So please keep sending

1118
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 1: your awkward photos to Bent at the mediator dot com,

1119
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 1: or you can d m them to me directly on

1120
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 1: the instagrams. That's where this one came from. I will

1121
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: close with a warning, however, UM, who the hell knows

1122
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: who will be joining me for future roastings. Okay, And

1123
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: if you've been with us from the beginning, you know

1124
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: our cast of regulars, and some of them probably won't

1125
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: be as nice and eloquent about your fury as Miles.

1126
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: So again, we do not condone, do not condone wet

1127
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: waiting with a loaded nine millimeter pointed at your junk.

1128
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: But we did enjoy that photo very much. I feel

1129
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: like we've always aimed to keep you on the straight

1130
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 1: path down range with your fishing, UM, which is why

1131
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 1: we close so many shows with our end of the

1132
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 1: line segment. And I'm gonna have to come up with

1133
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: a lot more luras and flies and baits. I suppose

1134
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 1: now that you're leaving, UM, but I think it's only

1135
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: fitting that you hit one more end of the line

1136
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: before you dip. I appreciate that, I think I should,

1137
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 1: and I want I want to close one of the

1138
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: best bent and the line topics. I can come up

1139
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: with one that's equally literate, degenerate, functional, and fishing all inclusive.

1140
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a little unconventional, but I hope you

1141
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 1: enjoy it. Well, that's not loud enough. Technically speaking, this

1142
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: is an end of the line segment. But because I

1143
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 1: want to hurl one last appeal to put down your

1144
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 1: phones pick up a book at all of you, it's

1145
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 1: also a freaking philistine segment. This is my last show.

1146
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 1: I do what I want. The fly I'm featuring this

1147
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 1: week is in many ways an anti fly. It's not

1148
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 1: delicate or fussy. It's not even actually tied. The bugger duck,

1149
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 1: as it's called, requires three materials and no threat at all.

1150
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: It's cheaper than a gas station jighead with a twister

1151
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 1: tail and just as easy to rig. No matter how

1152
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 1: much whiskey is curdling in your consciousness, you probably have

1153
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 1: all the necessary components to make this fly in your truck.

1154
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 1: Which is actually how the fly came to be. Here's

1155
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 1: a snippet of its origin story, taken from an essay

1156
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 1: written by its inventor. I was fishing wooly boogers on

1157
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: the Gallatin when it came up with a full blown

1158
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: bugger duck. The fish were hidden like crazy. Two had

1159
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: broken my tip. It and in my frenzy, I had

1160
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: snapped off four flies in the trees behind me, so

1161
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 1: I went back to my pickup to find more, but

1162
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 1: there were none. I did have some lead wrap in

1163
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: my vest and a dozen number six long shank hooks

1164
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: and a roll of duct tape in my glove box.

1165
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 1: With a vague idea of the invention that necessity was

1166
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 1: mothering forth, I went under the bridge to take a

1167
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 1: leak and stumbled upon the moldering carcass of a coyote

1168
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 1: nod duck. I picked some of the sodden down from it,

1169
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: returned to the tailgated by pickup, sat down, and proceeded

1170
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 1: to tape up a true bugger duck. I tore off

1171
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 1: a little strip at duct tape, wrapped the shank of

1172
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: the hook in it, wrapped the duct taped shank, and

1173
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 1: lead wrapped that in more duct tape, taped on some

1174
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: of the soggy down for a tail, and taped on

1175
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: more down for the body, creating a head that looked

1176
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: like a silver bullet in the process. Gazing at the

1177
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: morbid proletarian monstrosity I had created without thread, bob and

1178
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 1: or vice, I thought not bad, and quickly taped up

1179
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 1: four more. Then I lumbered back down to the river.

1180
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 1: The bugger duck and that passage. We're both the brainchild

1181
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: of writer, poet, teacher, and musician Greg Keeler, and the

1182
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 1: fly is a perfect distillation of Gregg's approach to fishing, writing,

1183
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: and life. Bugger ducks catch fish. They are an honest

1184
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 1: to god effective pattern. But that's not why I picked

1185
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 1: this fly. I love this fly for what it represents

1186
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 1: and who it reminds me of. See. You may not

1187
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 1: know the name Greg Keiler, but if you're even vaguely

1188
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 1: familiar with the countercultural outdoor writing scene in southwest Montana

1189
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 1: during the seventies and eighties, you know the crew that

1190
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 1: Greg ran with. We're talking about Russell Chatham, Doug Peacock,

1191
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: Tom mcgwayne, Jim Harrison, Gary Schneider, the people who defined

1192
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 1: the genre of outdoor writing as we know it today.

1193
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: Richard Brodigan was one of Greg's close friends. Greg wrote

1194
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 1: a book, Waltzing with the Captain that recounts some of

1195
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 1: their adventures, but Greg never found national notoriety in the

1196
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: same way as his contemporary. He wrote plenty of books,

1197
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: some very good ones, but maintained a family in addition

1198
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: to his day job as a tenure track professor at

1199
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 1: Montana State University. I read Gregg's memoir trash Fish when

1200
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 1: it was published in the early two thousands and found

1201
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 1: in it exactly the tone that I felt so much

1202
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:20,919
Speaker 1: fishing literature lacked. Trash Fish is the opposite of most

1203
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 1: outdoor writing, unpretentious, self deprecating, and honest. Greg is no hero,

1204
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 1: trumpeting his genius and celebrating his triumph for fish and

1205
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 1: fellow anglers. He's a confused baby boomer with an inexplicable

1206
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 1: angling obsession, stumbling through the messiness of trying to live

1207
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 1: a satisfying life. Along the way, he up often hurts

1208
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: the people he loves most, indulges in years of self destruction,

1209
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 1: and goes fishing a lot. The book reminds us that

1210
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: just about everything we do, when viewed from an appropriate

1211
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 1: angle of distance, his absurd, and yet despite the clown

1212
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 1: futility of modern life, our actions have consequences. Individual suffering matters,

1213
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 1: even if not at the macro scale of a population

1214
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 1: now pushing eight billion. I reached out to Greg before

1215
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: my own memoir came out in two thousand nine to

1216
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 1: ask for advice on generating an audience and being a

1217
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: successful writer based in Bozeman. Though at the time we'd

1218
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: never met, he was kind enough to write back to

1219
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: me with the following wisdom. He wrote, My publisher tried

1220
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 1: to get me to go out and create a groundswell

1221
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: for trash Fish, so I ran home and hid in

1222
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 1: my house. If there's an audience for it in this area,

1223
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:36,719
Speaker 1: it's because I've lived, taught, performed my songs, and exhibited

1224
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 1: my art here for thirty five years. I've been trying

1225
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 1: to write lately, but between students meetings, magazine writing, and

1226
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 1: feeble attempts to travel. For trash Fish to transient showed

1227
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: at my signing and butte, I've barely had time to fart.

1228
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 1: I knew that Greg and I would become friends when

1229
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 1: I enrolled in the graduate program at Montana State University.

1230
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 1: Greg's office became my sanctuary. He kept me afloat while

1231
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: I was churning in the crowded wave pool of fragile

1232
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 1: egos and weaponized word play we call academia. Greg served

1233
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,759
Speaker 1: on my thesis committee until two days before my final defense,

1234
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 1: his wife committed suicide in her car parked in a

1235
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 1: Bank parking lot beside a steel statutory of majestic elk.

1236
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 1: I stopped by his house, wearing a black shirt, black tie,

1237
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: and black cowboy boots, and carrying a venison sausage pie,

1238
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 1: as if its caloric density might fill some of his void.

1239
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: I left, hastily, stepping into the early May perfume of lilacs,

1240
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 1: and tried not to think about futility as I drove

1241
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 1: my truck to the fluorescent globe of the English Department

1242
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 1: conference room. Later that summer, Greg and I went carpet fishing,

1243
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: and I was reminded of why I loved his memoir

1244
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: in the first place. The cover features a portrait of

1245
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 1: a sucker with a drop of water creeping down from

1246
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:54,640
Speaker 1: its stupid and terrified eye, making the fish look as

1247
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 1: though it's crying. Here's a sample taken from an early chapter.

1248
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 1: I sometimes found it difficult to understand why father chose

1249
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 1: to go fishing by himself half the time. After all,

1250
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 1: he liked to fish. I like to fish, and I

1251
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 1: was his son. But now looking back, it's not quite

1252
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 1: such a mystery. Fishing with me must have been something

1253
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 1: like bird watching with a cat. As soon as we'd

1254
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 1: pull up to a streamer lake. I'd be out of

1255
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 1: the car, dashing toward the lake, falling over boulders, spilling

1256
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 1: the tackle box, and falling in the water. Father would

1257
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: stand by the car trunk, muttering under his breath, knowing

1258
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:32,560
Speaker 1: that nothing short of violence could stop me. Then eventually

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01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 1: he'd come after me, picking up hooks and sinkers in

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01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 1: my wake, and finally ragging up his own rod. Not

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01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 1: that he was any great shakes himself. His equipment was

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01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 1: always frayed and clogged from use and abuse. His casting

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01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 1: reels sometimes looked like a porcupine, with all the loose

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01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 1: ends poking out from where he had nodded the line

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01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 1: together after cutting out backlashes. His rod was short and

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01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 1: stubby from breaking and regluing the tips so many times,

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01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 1: and his lures they were huge, old concoctions of metal,

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01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 1: feathers and wood, resembling small rats or squashed pigeons. But

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01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 1: probably if I learned anything specific about my father from

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01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 1: the process of angling, it was how to swear. After all,

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01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 1: when one lets one's tackle become a huge tangled wad,

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01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 1: one has a bit of trouble turning it into anything

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01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 1: but found art. One of my earliest vivid memories is

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01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,600
Speaker 1: of Father standing out on a point of rocks on

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01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 1: Lake scan Tellus in upstate New York, silhouetted against the

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01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 1: futius sunset, jumping up and down and screaming. I can't

1277
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 1: remember if it was over faulty equipment, lost fisher life

1278
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 1: in general. All I remember is the part when a

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01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,600
Speaker 1: reel got a backlash in it in father's hands. That

1280
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 1: ceased being a plain old reel and became a jacked

1281
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 1: off spool of horse reel. Once in Oklahoma, when he

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01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 1: was pulling a stringer of small bass from a farm

1283
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,680
Speaker 1: pond and a water moccasin had managed to work one

1284
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:55,600
Speaker 1: of the bass into its gullet, it ceased being a

1285
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 1: water moccasin and became the bastard son of an elongated turd.

1286
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 1: And once when he was cleaning a channel cat and

1287
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 1: his hands slipped so that the dorsal spine went into

1288
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 1: his wrist, it ceased being a channel cat became a

1289
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 1: scumb sucking mucus drenched nail in the hand of Jesus

1290
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: Christ Almighty. There was also violence. If he broke the

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01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: tip of a rod, Sometimes instead of replacing the tip,

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01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:20,679
Speaker 1: he would take what was left and break it again

1293
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 1: in several places. It isn't easy to break a fishing

1294
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 1: rod in several places. Sometimes one must find a couple

1295
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 1: of cinder blocks so that one may lay it between

1296
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 1: them and stomp it. Or sometimes one must just rear

1297
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 1: back and send it whoop whooping out in the middle

1298
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:39,520
Speaker 1: of the river. For the most part, Father was a gentleman,

1299
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 1: but fishing was for him a sort of ventilation shaft

1300
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 1: through which raged the sound and fury of his Simian predecessors.

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01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 1: My final recommendation to all of you is twofold. First,

1302
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 1: go read trash fish and then anything else that grabs

1303
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 1: your fancy from keeler. Then whip up a half dozen

1304
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 1: or more bugger ducks and go fishing. You won't need

1305
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 1: a recipe, but here's the suggestion. After the half rotten

1306
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 1: duck feather prototype, Greg refined the pattern a bit and

1307
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 1: substituted actual maraboo, which works well. But any supple feathers

1308
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 1: will do. And really you don't even need feathers. You

1309
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 1: can hack off a chunk of fur from your dog,

1310
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 1: or steal that lock of hair from your first child

1311
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: someone's been saving in a shoe box. Just find some

1312
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 1: kind of material that moves and lash it to the

1313
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 1: back of a weighted long shank took with duct tape.

1314
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 1: Cut the tape, or let's be honest here, tear it

1315
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 1: off with your teeth, lay the ragged edge down and boom,

1316
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 1: You're done. You just tie a fly or made a

1317
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 1: fly whatever. So that is it. In case you fast

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01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 1: forwarded to this very part, Miles is leaving bent. I'm

1319
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 1: a bit of a nervous rack, but that uneasy feeling

1320
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 1: in my stomach might just be from the taco bell

1321
01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: seafood salad. I just date, you really got to stop

1322
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 1: drowning your sorrows and experimental fast food. Joe, just just

1323
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:08,679
Speaker 1: drink too much whiskey like a normal degenerate. You'll probably

1324
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 1: live longer. You're right, and I've been drinking a lot

1325
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: of whiskey lately. Me too. Bullshit aside, man, uh, creating

1326
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 1: the show with you every week for the past year

1327
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 1: has been one of the highlights of my career. When

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01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 1: when we first came up with this concept, I really

1329
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 1: think you and I were the only ones who thought

1330
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 1: it had a prayer of working. And like two weeks

1331
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 1: and here we are, uh not everything we have tried

1332
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 1: has been successful, but the idea, the concept that the

1333
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 1: heart of the show has endured, and damn it, we've

1334
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 1: been willing to fail in order to make something unique. Uh.

1335
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 1: I respect, I respect a lot of things. Man. I

1336
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 1: respect your work, ethic, your wit. You take the job

1337
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 1: of making fishing media seriously without taking yourself too seriously.

1338
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:58,839
Speaker 1: You understand the craft without being precious about it. No bullshit,

1339
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 1: this really is one of the most difficult decisions I've

1340
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: ever made in my professional life. I have no idea

1341
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 1: what the I'm gonna do Monday mornings when I can't

1342
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: call you up to just talk like I can't just

1343
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 1: call you to talk about whatever bullshit is on my

1344
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 1: mind under the guys of planning the following week's show,

1345
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 1: which is really my routine. Uh. And to all of you,

1346
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 1: and yeah, I'm talking about you degenerates out there who

1347
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 1: have tuned in for the past year, I want to

1348
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 1: give my sincere appreciation and thanks. Thanks for inviting me

1349
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 1: into your truck cabs and sedan's, your earbuds, your headphones.

1350
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 1: You only get so many hours, and I am grateful

1351
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 1: for the hours you chose to spend listen to me.

1352
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 1: Thanks also, to all of you who have reached out

1353
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 1: to talk about books or fishing or life or moral quandaries.

1354
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 1: Get a lot of moral quandaries. Yeah, keep those coming.

1355
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 1: Reading your emails has been one of the best parts

1356
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 1: of his job. And if you're not too piste off

1357
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 1: at me for leaving ben uh, please don't hesitate to

1358
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,879
Speaker 1: reach out in the future to all our KEYWI listeners.

1359
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need some new fishing and drinking buddies. So

1360
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: if you're willing to put up with a gangly yank,

1361
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 1: please holler. I won't be monitoring the bent account anymore,

1362
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 1: but Joe will pass along messages. I hope, yes, I will.

1363
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 1: I gotta say, dude, that was That was the nicest

1364
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 1: ship that anybody has ever said about me. And I

1365
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:25,600
Speaker 1: think you know this, but part of the reason I

1366
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 1: signed on with meat Eater was to work with you

1367
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 1: and make a podcast with you. So this hurts. And

1368
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:33,560
Speaker 1: the best I can do, though, is like keep it

1369
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 1: going for both of us, like keep the benching moving forward. Um.

1370
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 1: And it's always weird when you do like a final

1371
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 1: thing like this, It's like you're not dying. I could

1372
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 1: still talk. We're still talk on Monday like it's like

1373
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:48,600
Speaker 1: so sad for the listener, Like Myles and I are

1374
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 1: still going to hang out on occasion, He's just not

1375
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:53,679
Speaker 1: gonna bring the show. Yes anyway. In regards to those emails,

1376
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 1: in addition to being miles personal ad service, the Bend

1377
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 1: Email will continue performing its normal functions, So do please

1378
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 1: keep sending your salbing items, bar nominations, awkward photos, and

1379
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 1: offers of free lords and flies intended four miles to

1380
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,599
Speaker 1: Bent at the mediator dot com. I will be intercepting those.

1381
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 1: Keep using those degenerate Angler and Bent podcast hashtags on

1382
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 1: the Graham And speaking of the Graham, do me a

1383
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 1: solid and fire off some well wishes to my man

1384
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 1: because it's been an integral part of this show. We

1385
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 1: could not have gotten this far without the solid team

1386
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 1: work we've had over the last year, and I'm going

1387
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,680
Speaker 1: to miss you dude. Likewise, brother and for those of

1388
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 1: you who have been here since day one, this is

1389
01:17:33,280 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 1: for you. Tight Lines its ever ever everla a Ast