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Speaker 1: Good evening, America, Happy Wednesday, and welcome to this Just

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Speaker 1: the News, Real America's Voice special report the Grand Conspiracy

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Speaker 1: a Weaponization. Tonight, we're going to dig in to the

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Speaker 1: ten year period where government was turned against our candidates,

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Speaker 1: against our people, often using the most awesome tools of

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Speaker 1: government to interfere in elections. Joining us tonight for to

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Speaker 1: make this conversation possible is my good friends at the

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Speaker 1: Association of Mature American Citizens or AMAC. All throughout the night,

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Speaker 1: we'll tell you how you can become a member like

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Speaker 1: I am. But first I want to tell you about

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Speaker 1: what's going to happen tomorrow. Chuck Grasse is going to

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Speaker 1: release the appendix of the Durham investigation. We're now going

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Speaker 1: to see what the FBI knew about Hillary Clinton's dirty

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Speaker 1: trick before and during the time they were starting that investigation.

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Speaker 2: Chuck Grasse is going to make that available.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk to members of Congress experts all

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Speaker 1: through the show about that implication and the broader evidence

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Speaker 1: we now have. Now, I'm going to turn before we

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Speaker 1: get to that to my extraordinary host for this evening.

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Speaker 1: He's a senior vice president a MAC, good friend of mine.

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Speaker 1: Great host, Charles Stuck and Charles, good to have you on.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, John, appreciate you having me tonight, and for

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Speaker 3: me personally and for so many AMAC members across the country,

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Speaker 3: the rush agates story. It really began to unravel with

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Speaker 3: the release of the new NES memo, and that was

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Speaker 3: a wake up call. It exposed something deeply troubling that

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Speaker 3: elements of our own intelligence community, together with major media outlets,

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Speaker 3: we're not just reporting a narrative, they were manufacturing one.

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Speaker 3: So these tactics, the kind of political warfare we'd expect

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Speaker 3: to spe to see used overseas, that was being deployed

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Speaker 3: new documents came out, many of our AMAC members they

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Speaker 3: don't see as much as a bombshell. It can be

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Speaker 3: confirmation that evidence was ignored, that leaks were strategic, that

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Speaker 3: coordination was real. And they're angry because, let's face it,

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Speaker 3: it's been nearly a decade and we've seen one charge.

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Speaker 2: That's see it.

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Speaker 3: But for now, there's a growing demand for accountability, not

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Speaker 3: for revenge. But to restore trust, because john if we

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Speaker 3: don't hold people accountable for this, and you know better

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Speaker 3: than anybody, we're sending a message that political power justifies

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Speaker 4: You know, that's just not.

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Speaker 1: American exactly what a mac manver stand against. And that's

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Speaker 1: why it's such an important conversation.

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Speaker 2: We're going to kick it.

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Speaker 1: Off with the House Intelligence Committee member. That's the place

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Speaker 1: where so many of these disclosures that come from the

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Speaker 1: last few years. We're lucky to be joined by one

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Speaker 1: of its members right now. All right, folks, I can't

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Speaker 1: think of a better guest to kick off this conversation tonight,

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Speaker 1: whether it was the insanity of the Ukraine impeachment, the

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Speaker 1: seriousness of the Russia Gate failures, or what's going on

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Speaker 1: in every period since, including the classified documents case. Senator

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Speaker 1: Ron Johnson has been at the forefront, using his own

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Speaker 5: Senator, great to have you on today. Well, guys, we're

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Speaker 5: doing well.

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Speaker 1: I think of all the people in Washington, you could

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Speaker 1: take a Victory lap about what's happened in the last

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Speaker 1: coming out. Obama Gate is reel, Russia Gate is real.

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Speaker 1: When you look at the periot that you've investigated, all

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Speaker 1: the things that you said that were affirmed. Is this

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Speaker 1: one grand conspiracy of just constantly clearing a Democrat who

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Speaker 5: I think so it's pretty much the same casting characters.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was interesting. I didn't come here to

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Speaker 2: So we started digging into that.

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Speaker 5: You know, a lot of details in that, but in general,

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Speaker 5: James Comey issued that exoneration speech, that cast of characters.

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Speaker 2: I always think of.

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Speaker 5: The Penis Show when they when the Penis characters go

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Speaker 5: That same cast characters, they just moved right on over

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Speaker 5: they get paid by there, they continue to spread the lies,

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Speaker 2: And the thing I want to point out is.

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Speaker 5: Way beyond the horrific impact it has had on our

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Speaker 5: body politic on the election interference, this has ramifications of the

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Speaker 5: any interference in Russia or China could ever hope to accomplish,

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Speaker 5: would pale in comparison to the deviousness, the viciousness. Again,

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Speaker 5: the danger to our democracy are these democrats, starting with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So what's what's the endgame for these investigations. We've

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Speaker 3: it is being verified now without actual documentation. As you said, China, Russia,

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Speaker 3: foreign adversaries, they would be salivating at the idea of

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Speaker 5: But it has to be totally exposed. I'm really not

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Speaker 5: learning anything particularly new. You know, if we didn't already

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Speaker 5: it's something we certainly suspected. Now we're just getting more

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Speaker 5: we could uncover, for example, communications where we show how complicit.

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Speaker 2: The media was in all this. You know, some of

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Speaker 2: those communications would be extremely.

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Speaker 5: Valuable because what we have to is this has to

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 5: Again, I don't know what percentage of the legacy corporate

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Speaker 5: You know, obviously we've got news allis right, here's we've

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Speaker 2: So the American people aren't hearing this.

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Speaker 5: I mean, people watch your show are aware of this,

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Speaker 5: but the vast majority of Americans are still pretty well

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Speaker 2: So how do you expose it?

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Speaker 5: From my standpoint, the best way of doing this is

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Speaker 5: we need to indict in a venue where there actually

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Speaker 5: where you can take day after day after day, hour

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Speaker 2: I think that'd be the best way we can write reports.

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Speaker 5: You Cenograss and I can continue our partnership and we

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Speaker 2: They call the Russian disinformation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what they did. Everything was dismissed, even though

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Speaker 1: FBI may have been in on the game, right, from

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Speaker 2: Didn't we already suspect that though we did.

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Speaker 5: But now chance instruct those guys set up you know,

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Speaker 5: You know, James Comy tried to cover his tracks there

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Speaker 5: That's what's so disgusting about this is these people are

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Speaker 3: Well, not only hold them accountable, Senator, but John Brennan

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Speaker 5: Well, you've I heard the best defense is good offense.

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Speaker 5: These guys are always on offense. I mean the left

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Speaker 2: No, it's by the.

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Speaker 5: Way, it's a huge just Plukar reund Conservatives, we just

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Speaker 2: Off our back, just leave us alone. Democrats.

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Speaker 5: For liberals, government is the answer that they want to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask about something because you did more

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Speaker 1: This special report on the weaponization and the grand conspiracy

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Speaker 2: We know there was a political grand.

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Speaker 1: Conspiracy to get Donald Trump and to keep them on

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Speaker 1: now from the great state of New York, Congresswoman Claudia Attenny, Congressman.

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Speaker 2: Great to have you on the show.

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Speaker 6: Tis right.

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Speaker 1: You've been on this from the beginning, all the way

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Speaker 2: Democrat has a problem.

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Speaker 1: Clear them, investigate the Republican on something fake and keep going.

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Speaker 8: I do, and I will show you. This goes all

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Speaker 8: Of those intelligence agents that said, no way, this is

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Speaker 8: And I think that's why we're in a different place,

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton approved the whole plan to hang this fake

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Speaker 1: Russian shingle on Donald Trump's campaign house, and that we're

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Speaker 1: going to learn tomorrow this is a new part of it,

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Speaker 1: that the Russians had evidence that the FBI had agreed

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Speaker 1: to participate in the pot meeting, they would open up

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Speaker 1: an investigation so that it would give credence or accelerate

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Speaker 1: the allegations in the media and in the political space. Now,

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Speaker 1: I know it's a Russian intercept, but it was important

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Speaker 1: enough to tell President Obama, and the entire Intelligence Committee

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Speaker 1: was briefed on it, so it was taken seriously. And

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Speaker 1: yet nobody stops for a second when Hillary Clinton walks

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Speaker 1: in the dossier with her team or the Alpha Bank,

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Speaker 1: or the allegations from their friend in Australia and says,

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Speaker 1: wait a second, this might be part of that ruse.

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Speaker 1: They just keep doing it. How jarring is it to

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Speaker 1: think that people might have been alerted there was a

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Speaker 1: ruse and they played into it rather than stopped it.

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Speaker 8: You know, I think this is really important, and I'm

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Speaker 8: new to the Intelligence Committee, but one thing I've learned

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Speaker 8: in my short tenure this year in the Intelligence Committee

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Speaker 8: is that as much as you know we are adversaries

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Speaker 8: with the Russians, there's a deep amount of respect for

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Speaker 8: their ability to do surveillance and their deep ability to

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Speaker 8: be spies.

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Speaker 6: They're good at it.

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Speaker 8: And Putin was a KGB agent, so they get information

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Speaker 8: and a lot of this information they had, and Obama

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Speaker 8: and company knew about it, and then you know, and

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Speaker 8: I think it's somehow, I guess I have to say

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Speaker 8: this is they love to project. You know, they projected

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Speaker 8: the Russia collusion.

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Speaker 6: Isn't that interesting?

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Speaker 8: They're using Russian information, They're using Russian documents, But yet

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Speaker 8: they say Donald Trump is the one colluding with the

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Speaker 8: Russian and then may make up this fake story of

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Speaker 8: him with all the disgusting things that they you know,

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Speaker 8: unearth in this Dosia and then they destroyed so many

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Speaker 8: lives in the meantime while doing this.

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Speaker 6: So I do think it's really interesting.

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Speaker 8: But I do think that this document by Chuck Rassley,

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Speaker 8: I think is going to be really important, and I.

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Speaker 6: Think it's going to be I mean, people are going

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Speaker 6: to start to piece.

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Speaker 8: This together in a way that I just don't see

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Speaker 8: how we can't look at criminality on the part of

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Speaker 8: people who are guilty. Now, I mean, I understand that

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Speaker 8: President Obama, you know, probably has some kind of immunity,

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Speaker 8: but everybody else in this is not, and I think

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Speaker 8: they need to be held accountable. And I don't think

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Speaker 8: the Statue of limitations is running this. And I think

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Speaker 8: the American people for the most part, want to see

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Speaker 8: people held accountable so we can restore these institutions because

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Speaker 8: it makes everyone suspect if they can go after the

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Speaker 8: President of the United States, they can do this to

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Speaker 8: any and every citizen on the street, which is what

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Speaker 8: happens in authoritarian Marxist, communist type regimes.

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Speaker 2: True.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, going back to testimony John Durham, you know, failing

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Speaker 3: to be able to speak on the genesis of the

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Speaker 3: initial Russia investigation as someone who was there in the beginning,

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Speaker 3: how did you feel or what was your takeaway after

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Speaker 3: that testimony by Bob Muller, by Robert Mueller? And is

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Speaker 3: that in any way similar to sort of what we

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Speaker 8: Look, I thought this testimony was really disappointing and unimpressive.

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Speaker 8: I think people when he came on and all this

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Speaker 8: that's it. He really didn't have anything. He really stumbled

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Speaker 8: across it. It was incredible and for all the time

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Speaker 8: and that just sort of led us all back to

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Speaker 8: the original referral that I did with Ron de santosan

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Speaker 8: others that showed that there's nothing here.

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Speaker 6: This is actually the opposite.

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Speaker 8: It's the other side trying to frame the president of

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Speaker 8: the United States or the incoming president at the time.

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Speaker 8: And that's why in twenty eighteen we made that referral.

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Speaker 8: So I do think that Muller was on eventful the

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Speaker 8: Durham investment, all these things were We're really just exercises

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Speaker 8: in futility. We don't need to do a special council.

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Speaker 8: By the way, we already have cash totel in place.

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Speaker 8: We already have you know, we have the people that

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Speaker 8: can do this. We have the documents, and as you

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Speaker 8: talked about earlier, John, before we went on air, you know,

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Speaker 8: we have these you know, burn bags that were discovered

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Speaker 8: in the back of the you know, the FBI and

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Speaker 8: some warehouse to be thrown out and be interesting to

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Speaker 8: see what are in those and what they reveal about

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Speaker 8: even more people that are involved in this real kind

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Speaker 8: of conspiracy and criminal level of conspiracy to frame and

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Speaker 8: destroy the President of the United States and his reputation

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Speaker 8: and everything he could do to actually preserve and protect

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Speaker 8: our constitution.

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Speaker 1: Ironically, Yeah, amazing moment. This is a consequential time. We

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Speaker 1: got to get this right for future generations. You were

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Speaker 1: right in twenty eighteen you started. I remember being right

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Speaker 1: alongside you and Congressman the Santis and Jim Jordan. You

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Speaker 1: had it right in The American public are now realizing it.

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Speaker 1: Congress Woman. Great to have you on the show today.

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Speaker 6: Thanks so much. Great to be home with you. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I love of you them.

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Speaker 2: You're come on all right, folks, We've got another good run.

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Speaker 2: Right after the commercial break.

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Speaker 1: Mike Benz he's a champion of free speechies also a

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Speaker 1: champion of helping us understand how our government gets weaponized

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Speaker 1: Welcome back America to this just the News Rail America's

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Speaker 1: Voice special report, the Grand Conspiracy of Weaponization. We're taking

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into Russia Gate and all that followed

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Speaker 1: after it and the implications on American society. I want

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Speaker 1: Senior Vice President Charles Stuckland, as well as our next guest,

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Speaker 1: you know on the show frequently. He's a champion of

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Speaker 1: free speech. We would not have known about this industrial

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Speaker 1: censorship complex if it weren't for Mike Ben's, the executive

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Speaker 1: director of the Foundation for Freedom Online.

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Speaker 2: Mike, great to have you back on the show, my friend.

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Speaker 4: Great to s John gret C Charles.

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Speaker 1: All right, so we're at a moment now where the

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Speaker 1: public's got all the evidence, all the secrets are declassified,

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Speaker 1: Like how do you.

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Speaker 2: Carry this out for ten years? How does it keep going?

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Speaker 1: And I think you have provided one of the answers,

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Speaker 1: which is when contrary and evidence was starting to come up,

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Speaker 1: those who tried to offer it on social media in Congress,

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Speaker 1: they got censored. Censorship and media censorship were a big

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Speaker 1: part of the conspiracy right.

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Speaker 9: It was absolutely vital to the beating heart of the

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Speaker 9: whole conspiracy was the censorship component of it. Folks don't

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Speaker 9: really remember, I think as clearly today after what we

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Speaker 9: saw with COVID nineteen in twenty nineteen and what we

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Speaker 9: saw during the Biden era of censorship coming straight from

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Speaker 9: the government from seemingly every government agency.

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Speaker 4: But this all started with Russiagate.

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Speaker 9: The Internet censorship apparatus inside America did not have a

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Speaker 9: political home, did not have a legal home until the

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Speaker 9: Russia Gate crowbar gave it one under this false pretense

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Speaker 9: of some foreign, hostile, foreign nation state hacking our election

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Speaker 9: or interfering on social media on behalf of Donald Trump.

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Speaker 9: And it was through the National Security state before it

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Speaker 9: came to the NGO complex, and it came to the advertisers,

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Speaker 9: and it became something staffed up hundreds of people at

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Speaker 9: all the different social media companies. Censorship came to the

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Speaker 9: United States through the national security agencies by way of

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Speaker 9: Russia Gate. And this was done through the FBI, through DHS,

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Speaker 9: through CIA, through DoD.

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Speaker 4: There was no predicate before that.

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Speaker 9: We had a culture for two hundred and fifty years

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Speaker 9: of free sp beach in the United States. We had

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Speaker 9: an ironclad First Amendment and there was no way that

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Speaker 9: domestic politics could have broken that. But when you invoke

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Speaker 9: a national security predicate, it allows you to do things

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Speaker 9: that you can't do with ordinary politics.

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Speaker 4: It creates an emergency situation.

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Speaker 9: And when the idea that social media had been taken

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Speaker 9: over by the Russians and our elections and hearts and

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Speaker 9: minds were taken over by the Russians, that allowed DHS

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Speaker 9: and FBI and CIA and DD and the whole apparatus

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Speaker 9: to not just themselves pressure social media, but to weaponize

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Speaker 9: all of their assets in the NGO and civil society spaces.

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Speaker 9: All the NGOs we have around the world, in Central

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Speaker 9: and Eastern Europe, in Africa, in Latin America, the same

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Speaker 9: assets we built during the Cold War could all be

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Speaker 9: weaponized against the homeland under the presupposition that Donald Trump

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Speaker 9: was backed by the Russians. So therefore every Trump supporter

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Speaker 9: is actually not really a Trump supporter. There are a

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Speaker 9: Russian on and this could justify mass censorship of tens

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Speaker 9: of millions of Trump supporters by proxy. And so the

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Speaker 9: collateral damage of Russiagate is eternal. In the chapter, in

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Speaker 9: the chapter of chapters of history, will we are still

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Speaker 9: confronting the censorship industrial complex, which could not have taken

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Speaker 9: root without Russia Gate. So, as far as I'm concerned,

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Speaker 9: ten years is the blink of an eye compared to

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Speaker 9: the damage that this has unleashed across the world.

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Speaker 2: Good point, Mike.

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Speaker 3: Can you compare the size and scope of the alleged

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Speaker 3: Russian social media influencing concord management situation? How big was

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Speaker 3: allegedly the Russian social media interference in comparison to what

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Speaker 3: our own intel agencies did on these platforms.

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Speaker 4: Let me make this completely clear.

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Speaker 9: This is how much of it was ever substantiated.

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Speaker 4: Nothing, none of it.

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Speaker 9: If you read the January sixth, twenty seventeen CIA report

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Speaker 9: on Russian interference, all they allege is that Russian social

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Speaker 9: media accounts like Russia Today and Sputnik had gotten far

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Speaker 9: more engagement during the twenty sixteen election cycle, and that

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Speaker 9: they hypothesized that the Russians favored Trump and so therefore

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Speaker 9: Sputnik and RT were having an influence. It was only

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Speaker 9: after that that they came up Russian bots and trolls.

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Speaker 9: And here's here's how much they claimed to find about

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Speaker 9: one hundred and fifty thousand dollars worth of Facebook ads

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Speaker 9: half of which supported Hillary Clinton.

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Speaker 4: None of that was corroborated.

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Speaker 9: We don't know if those were just random Americans using

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Speaker 9: a Russian VPN so that their IP address looked like

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Speaker 9: it came from Russia. That was a very popular thing

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Speaker 9: to do, to use VPNs to pipe in from Central

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Speaker 9: Eastern Europe or Belarus or Russia to master your IP address.

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Speaker 9: The groups that did the digital forensics to make these

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Speaker 9: allegations were groups like New Knowledge, staffed by Renee Darresta

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Speaker 9: and a bunch of Obama State Department employees, who themselves

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Speaker 9: got busted in what was described by the New York

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Speaker 9: Times as an elaborate false flag operation to give the

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Speaker 9: impression that Roy Moore if you remember the twenty seventeen

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Speaker 9: Senate runoff election, that same group New Knowledge, which drafted

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Speaker 9: the Senate Intelligence Committee report on Russian interference on social media,

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Speaker 9: was busted themselves creating fake Russian bots and mass subscribing

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Speaker 9: them to Republican candidates for office to create a false flag.

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Speaker 9: In their own words, they ended up getting tossed off

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Speaker 9: of Facebook for this and written up by the New

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Speaker 9: York Times and the Washington Post. So the people who

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Speaker 9: made the allegations that Russians were creating bots to help Trump,

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Speaker 9: were themselves caught creating fake Russian bots to subscribe to

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Speaker 9: Republican candidates. The whole thing was a fraud from top

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Speaker 9: to bottom, and frankly, the balls now in Pam Bondi's desk.

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Speaker 9: I don't think that history can continue in America with

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Speaker 9: trust in our intelligence agencies unless there is somebody that

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Speaker 9: people look back on and say, I don't want to

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Speaker 9: be that guy because he got indicted.

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Speaker 1: Mike, I want to just ask one quick question. We

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Speaker 1: got a minute left. One of the curious things if

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Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin was trying to influence election, like John Brennan's

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Speaker 1: remade assessment said, why did he stop all countermeasures in

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Speaker 1: the United States in October, the very month of sixteen

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Speaker 1: where voters are making up their minds, when the debates

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Speaker 1: were going on. He pulls back that seems to be

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Speaker 1: a guy who actually decided not to tip the election for.

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Speaker 9: Someone everyone knows the answer, which is that Putin did

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Speaker 9: not interfere on behalf of Donald Trump. This was an

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Speaker 9: attempt to use the national security state to pull off

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Speaker 9: with Democratic voters and what anti Trump, Republican donors and

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Speaker 9: high level officials could not do, which was defeat Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: They couldn't Beatam.

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Speaker 9: Farren square at the ballot box, and so they used

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Speaker 9: the National Security, States Department of Dirty Tricks to do it.

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Speaker 2: This was.

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Speaker 9: Bob mother Ran a two and a half year investigation.

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Speaker 9: They came up with nothing, Bubkiss seven to two offsuit.

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Speaker 4: They were bluffing the entire time.

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Speaker 9: John Brennan had advanced awareness on August third, twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 9: in his handwritten notes that Hillary Clinton had a plan

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Speaker 9: to vilify Donald Trump by quote stirring up a scandal

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Speaker 9: that Trump was backed by the Russian Security Services. They

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Speaker 9: knew that was BS, they knew that was junk, and incidentally,

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Speaker 9: were now learning that Hillary Clinton approved that plan to

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Speaker 9: tap Christopher Steele to do the Steele dossi and all

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Speaker 9: this on July twenty eighth.

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Speaker 4: That's the same day we're.

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Speaker 9: Now seeing text messages from Peter Strock around the FBI

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Speaker 9: opening up this counter intelligence investigation on Trump. So it

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Speaker 9: looks like the Clinton campaign was working with the FBI

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Speaker 9: and the CIA was organizing under John Brennan, the intelligence

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Speaker 9: community to basically prove the case that Hillary Clinton couldn't

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Speaker 9: prove and then classify all the evidence so no one

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Speaker 9: could see the CIA's proof.

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Speaker 4: And now we're seeing it all come out.

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Speaker 9: Now turn out the whole thing was a lie and

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Speaker 9: frankly a criminal conspiracy.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow we're going to get more of that from Senator

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Speaker 1: Chuck Grassey. We'll see just how much the Russians believe

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Speaker 1: the FBI was in on the gig. That'll be tomorrow's

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Speaker 1: big release. Mike has always great to have you on.

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Speaker 1: You bring it, Crystal Clare to us folks. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people when I talked to the FBI agents a

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Speaker 1: few years ago, said here's the story of Russia Gate.

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Speaker 1: If you can't beat him, then you got to cheat him.

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Speaker 1: And that's what we think happened. Now that's what the

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Speaker 1: evidence shows. Mike Benz just nailed on that. All right,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna take quick commercial break. Let me come back.

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Speaker 1: Candidate for Governor of Maine and Pharmacistant Secretary of State

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Speaker 1: AMAC Tonite. I'm joined as a special co host AMAX

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Speaker 1: Senior Vice President Charles Steklan, and now we're going to

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Speaker 1: bring in one of my great friends. He's a national

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Speaker 1: spokesman for AMAC, former assistant secretary of State, current candidate

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Speaker 1: for governor May. There's about six or seven other great

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Speaker 1: titles I left out of there.

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Speaker 2: Our good friend Bobby, Charles. Bobby, good to have you

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Speaker 2: back on.

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Speaker 4: N Always a real pleasure to be with you.

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Speaker 1: I've been looking forward to this conversation because so much

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Speaker 1: has come out in the last ten days. Charles has

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Speaker 1: hit on it all through these interviews with members of Congress. Today,

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Speaker 1: the conspiracy to get Trump, which starts in sixteen ends

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Speaker 1: in twenty four just a NonStop machinery in the government

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Speaker 1: is playing a major role in it. Used to be

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Speaker 1: the former chief investigator for Congress. How bad is this

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Speaker 1: in the history of scandals.

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Speaker 7: I'll be honest, John, I, as I read these documents

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Speaker 7: that are coming out, a couple of quick observations. First,

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Speaker 7: this transcends public corruption. This was an attempted takedown of

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Speaker 7: the United States government.

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Speaker 4: And so while we've got public corruption up.

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Speaker 7: Here in Maine and it's bad, this was an attempt

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Speaker 7: to literally sideline an election. And the more documents come out,

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Speaker 7: the more obvious it becomes. When I started to look

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Speaker 7: at this, I thought, geez, this really corroborates a lot

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Speaker 7: of what we early dire.

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Speaker 4: Thought about how unfair and how dishonest. A lot of

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Speaker 4: this reporting was a lot of this.

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Speaker 7: But now you get deep into it, you see the

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Speaker 7: FBI actually was coordinating. I personally think John Brennan coordinated

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Speaker 7: with the Five Eyes, our intelligence partners, to go outside

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Speaker 7: the law, get them to do surveillance, and then report

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Speaker 7: it back so that he didn't have to talk about

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Speaker 7: where it was coming from. He could keep a cap

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Speaker 7: on it. I personally, if you go back in history,

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Speaker 7: I would say that the grandest conspiracy of all was

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Speaker 7: pre Civil War, where Abraham Lincoln tried very hard to

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Speaker 7: keep the Union together before war broke out, and that

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Speaker 7: was obviously treason. If you wind the clock quickly ahead,

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Speaker 7: you have things like Teapot Dome under parting. You have

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Speaker 7: the Fellow Travelers in the thirties and forties. You have

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Speaker 7: communism in the Hollywood in the fifties, you have Watergate,

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Speaker 7: and ultimately things like Waco. When I was doing investigations

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Speaker 7: in the nineties, nothing not one of those investigations comes

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Speaker 7: up to this this. If it proves to be true,

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Speaker 7: we'll send a number of people prison. We already have

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Speaker 7: criminal referrals on John Brennan, former head.

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Speaker 4: Of the CIA, who incidentally one.

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Speaker 7: Time attested to being a communist. We have James Comy

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Speaker 7: under investigation. He was a former head of the FBI.

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Speaker 7: This by itself would be unprecedented to have see them

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Speaker 7: go to prison. But I think we now have indications

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Speaker 7: that this was a genuine conspiracy.

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Speaker 4: A conspiracy is an inco.

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Speaker 7: Hate crime, A real and fundamentally prosecutable crime. And when

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Speaker 7: you talk about trying to take down a country and

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Speaker 7: you see a former president, a former secretary of state,

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Speaker 7: a candidate involved in this, John, I really there is no.

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Speaker 4: Historical precedent for this pre civil war. It is just

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Speaker 4: about as close as you can.

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Speaker 3: Get, Bobby speaking on five Eyes, As you said, there

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Speaker 3: is a potential conspiracy there. You have Stephan Halper, Australian dipomat,

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Speaker 3: working with George Papadopoulos, and it seems almost like entrapman.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot going on there, and I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: if we've got there yet on the discovery phase of

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Speaker 3: the actual documents. But overall, how do allegation of our

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Speaker 3: intelligence misconduct affect America's standing on the global stage?

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Speaker 4: So a couple let me unpack that a little bit.

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Speaker 7: The first thing you're pointing out, Charlie, is that what's

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Speaker 7: happened is you are seeing a change of the default presumption.

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Speaker 7: The presumption now should be that if a foreign government

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Speaker 7: was involved, it was involved illegally. And I'm going to

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Speaker 7: include the British government in that. I don't know anything,

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Speaker 7: I have no inside knowledge, but I'm going to tell

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Speaker 7: you they would be the likeliest ones we would have

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Speaker 7: gone to, or Brennan would have gone to. And I

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Speaker 7: think there are indications that some of our senior intelligence folks.

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Speaker 4: Were over there, and obviously Steal was British.

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Speaker 7: But the idea is, if you go around US law

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Speaker 7: in order to collect information on a political opponent and

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Speaker 7: then persecute that opponent, I mean, my god, if you

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Speaker 7: were writing a John McCarthy a novel, I don't think

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Speaker 7: you could write it more compellingly than that. So and

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Speaker 7: then if you look at what it really means, I

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Speaker 7: think at the end of the day, what we're looking

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Speaker 7: at here is a conspiracy of such a potential magnitude

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Speaker 7: that it is going to be difficult to convince people.

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Speaker 4: That it is as big as it is.

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Speaker 7: And I guess my instinct is, Charlie, that we look

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Speaker 7: at this and we say we step back point paces

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Speaker 7: and we just start to now methodically unpack everything.

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Speaker 4: What has happened now.

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Speaker 7: Is they tried to shut this in a closet door

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Speaker 7: and the door wouldn't shut. And now you have Trump

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Speaker 7: as president, and you have BONDI, and you have all

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Speaker 7: of our intelligence community leadership has swapped over to being

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Speaker 7: high integrity leadership. At this point, I think we should

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Speaker 7: be asking please divulge anything you have, bring the cases

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Speaker 7: if you need to before a grand jury.

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Speaker 4: I predict a brand jury. I predict indictments.

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Speaker 7: But also as much as you can share with the

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Speaker 7: American people, share it with them. They have a public

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Speaker 7: right to know that their republic was almost toppled. You know,

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Speaker 7: there's a time, and I can't think of the right metaphor,

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Speaker 7: but there are times when you get across let's say,

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Speaker 7: thin ice on a pond, and you look back and

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Speaker 7: you really don't want to know how thin that ice was,

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Speaker 7: because we were damn close to going through. Well, I

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Speaker 7: feel like that's America right now.

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Speaker 4: And I do want to know how close we were.

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Speaker 3: Bobby, A lot of our AMAC members are frustrated. It's

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Speaker 3: been ten years since, you know, twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 3: the genesis of cross for a hurricane and the release

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Speaker 3: of the information that we've first basically discovered what was

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Speaker 3: going on. Is that ten year timeframe based on the

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Speaker 3: scope of what happened, Do you feel like that's a

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Speaker 3: long time or is that the amount of time required

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Speaker 3: when it comes to concealing things with confidential information covers

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Speaker 3: everything that went on here, is that ten year timeframe

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Speaker 3: sort of Actually it might take that long to unravel.

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Speaker 7: Well, I don't think it's going to take us ten

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Speaker 7: ten years to prosecute. But to your core question, ten

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Speaker 7: years is not atypical for a conspiracy. Somebody might spend

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Speaker 7: ten years trying to, you know, steal a diamond from

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Speaker 7: the louver or to take down some you know, bank.

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Speaker 7: Conspiracies can take any amount of time. They're first conceived,

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Speaker 7: it's an idea. Now you get the group meeting together,

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Speaker 7: so that's the men's rea.

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Speaker 4: They are actually mentally focusing on the idea they're going.

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Speaker 7: To do this that probably happened during the election, and

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Speaker 7: then they begin to execute acts that fundamentally execute the conspiracy.

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Speaker 4: And I would tell you that anybody.

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Speaker 7: In the room at the time is a co conspirator.

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Speaker 7: Are they an indictable co conspirator. That's what we don't

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Speaker 7: know yet. There may be unindicted co conspirators. But it's

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Speaker 7: not complicity. Complicity is just I happened to know that

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Speaker 7: this was happening. I had no moral obligation to be

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Speaker 7: to say anything or be involved. I don't think anybody

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Speaker 7: that was in the room in a couple of these

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Speaker 7: core meetings that we have documents on right now escapes

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Speaker 7: that I think that they.

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Speaker 4: Are co conspirators.

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Speaker 7: And the question is is there sufficient as evidence, whether

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Speaker 7: it's Obama or Hillary Clinton or somebody else at the

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Speaker 7: tippy top clapper that should they be prosecuted. And the

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Speaker 7: last thing I'll note is that when you find it,

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Speaker 7: I mean, I was a US bort of Appeals clerk

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Speaker 4: When you find it, I'm a litigator.

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Speaker 7: When you find information and that reawakens all the facts

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Speaker 7: that goes back in time, you can restart the tolling clock.

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Speaker 7: So ten years is not a particularly long time, particularly

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Speaker 7: if what you learn is that there was a seed,

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Speaker 7: if you will, a beginning of the conspiracy, and then

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Speaker 7: it widened out and widened out, and when Trump actually won,

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Speaker 7: it widened further and it became law fair.

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Speaker 4: And so I mean, what we're really talking about is.

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Speaker 7: The explosion of a kind of a political criminal nuclear

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Speaker 7: cloud that was intended to take out a president and

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Speaker 7: to rob all of us of our vote. I mean,

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Speaker 7: if you want to talk about voter you know, voter

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Speaker 7: ID failures, voter stealing votes.

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Speaker 4: There's no more powerful way to steal a.

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Speaker 7: Vote than the entire thing's done and someone is won,

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Speaker 7: and you're going to up end the entire thing.

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Speaker 4: With criminal investigation.

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Speaker 7: And don't think for a minute that the process was

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Speaker 7: not also the punishment. I mean, for you know, for

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Speaker 7: all intents and purposes, we were in pretty tough water

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Speaker 7: and thank god for Trump who stuck it out.

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Speaker 1: Well, the process has been the punishment. We've heard that

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Speaker 1: a lot in this last couple of hours. All right, Bobby,

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Speaker 1: stick with us. We're going to have a few more questions.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Welcome back to this a special

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Speaker 1: report called the Weaponization and the Grand Conspiracy to commit It.

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Speaker 1: We've been talking all hour about it. I want to

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Speaker 1: turn it over. We're going to have to ask Bobby

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Speaker 1: Charles to stay over for a second more. I want

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Speaker 1: to turn my last question over to my great co

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Speaker 1: host for the Eating Amax, senior vice president, Charles Stuck,

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Speaker 1: and I think he's got the money question.

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Speaker 2: Charles, have at it, so Bobby.

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Speaker 3: Many of us that are actively politically engaged and have

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Speaker 3: been working on research and investigating and looking at this case,

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Speaker 3: I mean, John Song, when we have right here one

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Speaker 3: of the best examples. We really know the details and

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Speaker 3: it matters to us. But for the average American citizen,

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Speaker 3: and in your case, the average main citizen, why is

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Speaker 3: exposing and prosecuting what happened with the Russiagate, with the

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Speaker 3: Russiagate event? Why is that so important to the average

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Speaker 3: American citizen.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to give you several reasons.

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Speaker 7: Of course, I'm running for governor up here, and these

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Speaker 7: reasons really do matter. First of all, federal accountability is

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Speaker 7: absolutely essential in its own right.

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Speaker 4: We do not want.

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Speaker 7: The FBI coming with thirty long guns and bursting into

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Speaker 7: our homes and bedrooms as they did with Donald Trump.

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Speaker 7: That lawfare piece is in and of itself, absolutely horrendous

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Speaker 7: the fact that there was a Fourth Amendment violation, fifth

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Speaker 7: Amendment violation, Sixth Amendment violation actually also a First Amendment

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Speaker 7: violation when they gagged him during during trials. I mean,

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Speaker 7: it is absolutely hell on wheels, and we should never

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Speaker 7: want our federal government to have that kind of power,

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Speaker 7: and if you don't keep them accountable, it could come

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Speaker 7: right here to Maine. The second piece is that Trump administration,

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Speaker 7: You know that that Trump response was really a response

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Speaker 7: to something that amounts to a massive public corruption, a

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Speaker 7: corrupting of our public process, our public election process. What

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Speaker 7: we have here in Maine is a governor who has

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Speaker 7: taken her cues from the Biden people, people are who

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Speaker 7: are as corrupt as corrupt gets the Obama and Biden administration,

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Speaker 7: and she herself is stepping over the line. And I

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Speaker 7: think part of it is you've got to average folks

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Speaker 7: here in Maine want to see an honest state government,

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Speaker 7: and they want to see an honest federal government.

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Speaker 4: And when you see a federal government getting.

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Speaker 7: Away with murder, and then you look at your own

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Speaker 7: state government, you say, God, I mean, what are our

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Speaker 7: protections here if they can violate the federal the federal Constitution,

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Speaker 7: the First Amendment, fourth, fifth, and sixth, not to mention

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Speaker 7: the tenth.

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Speaker 4: Well, then they can certainly violate those same rights here

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Speaker 4: in Maine and the main Constitution.

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Speaker 7: I think every day, if I may put a punctuation

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Speaker 7: point on it, and we don't have the time for

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Speaker 7: these details, I think every single day the Democrat leadership

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Speaker 7: in Augusta, Maine is violating the Constitution in Maine and

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Speaker 7: is violating the federal Constitution.

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Speaker 4: And they know it and they don't care.

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Speaker 7: And that is one of the biggest reasons I'm running

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Speaker 7: to be the governor to straighten this place out and

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Speaker 7: get integrity backing government so that we can trust our government.

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Speaker 2: Integrity and trust. That's what we need back in all

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Speaker 2: forms of government.

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Speaker 1: Bobby Charles, what a great conversation. Thank you guys for

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Speaker 2: We'll see you back to tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: Until then, God blessing them a great evening,