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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.

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Speaker 2: Hi. Everyone. Welcome to Mother Knows That. On today's episode,

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Speaker 2: we're going to talk about the latest bizarre developments involving

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Speaker 2: a female dentist who went missing. Britney Spears is in

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Speaker 2: the news because her ex, Kevin Federline, has written a

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Speaker 2: book that has some scandalous accusations, an extreme interpretation of

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Speaker 2: bring your child to Workday, a scandal involving a fake baby,

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Speaker 2: and a funeral home that presented a family with the

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Speaker 2: wrong body. Then we'll end the episode with some of

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Speaker 2: your questions and emails. All that and more. On today's episode,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about this dentist story because it is bizarre.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw this story circulating online about this Georgia Dennis.

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Speaker 1: She was reported missing after she didn't show up to

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Speaker 1: work last week. Police went to go do a welfare check.

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Speaker 1: They found her phone was left behind, but her wallet

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Speaker 1: in her car was gone. The car was later found

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Speaker 1: abandoned in a parking lot. So the news was reporting

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Speaker 1: that she was found safe after a former patient saw

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Speaker 1: her at the mall. However, her husband has posted on

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Speaker 1: Facebook that she's not safe and is seemingly with the

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Speaker 1: man she is scared of.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and let me read the Facebook post to you.

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Speaker 2: It says, so it's on her Facebook page. Correct.

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Speaker 1: Well, I went on it and I didn't see it

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Speaker 1: on her Facebook page. I saw he posted it on

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Speaker 1: his and it was reshared to hers. So this screenshot

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Speaker 1: has me questioning that unless it was originally posted on

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Speaker 1: hers and then was deleted.

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Speaker 2: So it says this is Leslie. Melanie is not safe.

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Speaker 2: She was observed being dragged around a market by the

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Speaker 2: person she is with. She is being manipulated and controlled.

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Speaker 2: When confronted by the gentleman who spotted them because she

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Speaker 2: was his dentist, the guy said she was starting to

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Speaker 2: yell at him. She is so scared of the person

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Speaker 2: she is with. She is not fork right with the police.

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Speaker 2: He was charged with beating one of his wives. She

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Speaker 2: is in a mental health crisis and needs professional help

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Speaker 2: and intervention immediately. The police do not know and do

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Speaker 2: not do to any justice whatsoever, and let them both leave.

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Speaker 2: If anyone sees her, please do not leave and call

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Speaker 2: this is weird nine eight eight and share her location.

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Speaker 2: What's nine eight eight? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know but the husband was traveling out

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Speaker 1: of state at the time, So I don't know if

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Speaker 1: one of her employees at the dentist's office, or I

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Speaker 1: don't even know if she was the main dentist here,

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Speaker 1: if somebody at her work called him and said she

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Speaker 1: never showed up or whatever. But he's the one that

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Speaker 2: Of her family and friends said that that was very

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Speaker 2: out of character.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the police saying, quote, we would like to

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Speaker 1: reassure everyone that Melanie was not in any danger and

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Speaker 1: there is no indication of foul play. However, there's all

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Speaker 1: these unconfirmed reports now that this man she's with is

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Speaker 1: allegedly a man she's been having an affair with for

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Speaker 1: ten years, and he was also reported missing, and his

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Speaker 1: wife went on his computer, found a secret Yahoo account

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Speaker 1: and exposed the whole affair. These are unconfirmed reports, but

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Speaker 1: this is what is circulating all lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's like such juicy drama. Apparently, so

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Speaker 2: this woman's husband and the woman were going to her

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Speaker 2: How are you looking in somebody?

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Speaker 1: Don't they say Dennis have like the highest mental health

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Speaker 1: of the highest rate of mental health problems because they're

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Speaker 1: like staring in the mouths all day.

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Speaker 2: Really, I don't know if that's true. I just think

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Speaker 2: that there's much more stressful jobs than that.

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Speaker 1: Like, honestly, I don't know, but I remember reading probably

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Speaker 1: five to ten years ago that Dennis had the high

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Speaker 1: suicide rate out of any medical profession, and I just.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm bringing that boring. That's the only thing

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Speaker 1: It's there's something else I shouldn't even say because I

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Speaker 1: don't even know the full details of it. But basically

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Speaker 1: what I'm getting is how do you go from looking

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Speaker 2: I just can't understand it. Yeah, I don't either, And

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Speaker 2: it's the whole entire thing. So now a lot of

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Speaker 2: saying that she's mentally unwell and she's there against her

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Speaker 1: Because also, if you are both gonna fake your own

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Speaker 2: It is, there's just way more to the story. But

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Speaker 2: I think that there's definitely some I mean, you could

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Speaker 2: totally see that. People do this all the way. That's

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Speaker 2: why there's there's a term like run away together. Let's

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Speaker 1: I think think about you see that doctor Don's missing, right,

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Speaker 2: You're like, hey, doctor Dodd, do you realize you're missing?

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Speaker 2: Why are you here? And how could you be?

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Speaker 1: Because she's not she's not that old, right, so she's

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Speaker 1: I thinks in her early fifties. Yeah, so she she's

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Speaker 1: a person that goes on the internet, you suppose, like,

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Speaker 1: there's no way that she didn't know that her face

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Speaker 2: Woman, you're like, oh god, someone kidnapped her and killed her.

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Speaker 2: Like that's I think doctor Priya even put a post

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Speaker 2: and like people were genuinely concerned that she was missing.

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Speaker 1: Well, of course, and like now that all these other

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Speaker 1: reminding me of that Cherry Peppini story. There's just a

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Speaker 1: lot of details adding up. Actually, we have two stories

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Speaker 2: Oh really, yeah, what's the other one?

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Speaker 1: I'm just a fake pregnancy scandal. Oh okay, all right,

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Speaker 2: If we hear any updates, we'll talk about it, because

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't necessarily mean to make light of it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, she could very well still be a kidnapping

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Speaker 2: I don't know, the wife just found ten year evidence

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Speaker 1: But that's what Cherry Peppini was arguing that she was

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Speaker 1: having an affair with that guy and he got disgruntled

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Speaker 2: We have bigger mental health issues this week, and we're

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Speaker 2: talking about Britney Spears and all of these revelations that

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Speaker 2: have been made in Kevin Fetterline's new book.

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Speaker 1: All right, So Kevin Fetterline, who is Britney Spears' ex husband,

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Speaker 1: father of her children, he's coming out with this new

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Speaker 1: These are serious things to be putting out there.

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Speaker 2: They're sirious, but they're kind of believable. Honestly, Like I

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Speaker 2: And I've always said this, but you've seen her on

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Speaker 2: just like something's not right there. No, she's one.

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Speaker 1: Hundred percent not mentally well. And it's not that I

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Speaker 1: and say, I think it's kind of gross that he's

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Speaker 1: so you're gonna like air out all her shit like that.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that he has determined that the relationship

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Speaker 1: His child support just ended and he needs some money

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Speaker 1: and that's why he wrote this book.

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Speaker 2: It's it's totally possible, but like, at the same time,

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Speaker 2: it could it could very well be true. I don't,

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Speaker 2: It's just like the Baby One More Time video is

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Speaker 2: way that you know when you're when you're that kind

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Speaker 2: exactly what happened.

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Speaker 1: Well, I want to talk about that, So let's start

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Speaker 1: off with the cocaine part of this. So Kevin Federline

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Speaker 1: two thousand and six, which like, why are you relevant

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Speaker 1: to be having an album release party because you're married

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Speaker 1: to Britney Spears and she was supposed to be staying

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Speaker 1: that's when their marriage was over. Although I want to

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Speaker 1: say I've read her book and obviously, as disclosed, she's

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Speaker 1: not fully there and the book could be whatever. It's

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Speaker 1: just her perspective. But she's saying the reason their marriage

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Speaker 1: ended was because the fame and money was really corrupting him,

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Speaker 1: and I could totally see that being a problem too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean totally, but she that was around what

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Speaker 2: year was that with the cocaine. I'm just curious, in

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Speaker 2: two thousand and six, Okay, So if you recall a

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Speaker 2: few months after that she had, that's when she had

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Speaker 2: her infamous breakdown, like publicly with the umbrella and the

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Speaker 2: when she had that like episode with the paparazzi and everything.

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Speaker 2: And also listen to what you said. She has a

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Speaker 2: one year old and a one month old, which means

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Speaker 2: her kids have an eleven month interval between them. That's

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Speaker 2: very short. So she was pregnant essentially back to back, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, she definitely seems like did she ever admit

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Speaker 2: or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: No, but like, this is what I said after her

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And there was a lot to like, you know,

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Speaker 2: Oh, I know that pressure actually, But seriously, I do

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Speaker 1: But I also want to bring up the argument, like

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Speaker 2: But but like he was raising her kids, I know

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Speaker 1: it's honestly, But like he made the decision to marry her,

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Speaker 2: It's part of the deal.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's fair, but I think this book

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Speaker 1: You know, the number one rule of divorce is the

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Speaker 1: that's exactly how I see it. I am a child

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's just a different situation. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's a lot to take on and.

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Speaker 1: Like who fucking who, because the women are supposed to

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Speaker 1: do it. I don't I have I just don't have

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Speaker 1: so like part of that is like what if what

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Speaker 1: It's like when men say, oh, I'm babysitting my kids today,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're not talking about if it's a man

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Speaker 2: but I'm saying in this particular situation with Britney Spears,

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Speaker 1: But do you think it's stable that now they're in

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure that this is what I'm getting. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure that. Listen, like, if you're a child that grows

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that like they're egging it on and

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Speaker 1: Well, she's If she was a normal person, i'd say

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Speaker 2: I think this is so disturbing when parents use drugs

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Speaker 2: so it's it's serious. And like, just to his defense,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's true because I don't live their lives,

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Speaker 2: but like if she's been saying this whole time, we

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Speaker 2: just like, no, actually we broke up because you did

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Speaker 2: Like I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I'm sorry, no, And.

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Speaker 1: I'm not defending her actions. I'm just saying, like, with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's that definitely could be said. And

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Speaker 2: he's I believe he even said something about her being

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Speaker 1: But and her actions are indefensible because she's a mentally

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean, really, there's just so there's

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Speaker 2: their allergies, feeding a child shellfish that had an allergy,

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00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 2: one time a son was hospitalized because he got a

435
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 2: hold of pills, and then other like a little bit

436
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 2: weird things like keeping the kid in diaper a little

437
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 2: bit longer than they should have been, even after well

438
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 2: after the kid was potty trained, telling the kid when

439
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 2: he was ten years old that he had to still

440
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 2: take baths with the mom.

441
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 1: Like it was like, it's all inappropriate, obviously.

442
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 2: Like if this is true, it seems, which it very

443
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 2: well could just be some kind of weird Freudian thing

444
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 2: or something that she's still trying to hold onto her

445
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 2: childhood and she's trying to make this son not grow

446
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 2: up and hold on to his childhood. But but like

447
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 2: you could see these different examples of why a person

448
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 2: was like like they didn't even let her have visitation

449
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: of those kids. They I mean, she if the thing

450
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 2: is is she's Britney Spears, so everybody's like, no Brittany.

451
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 2: Stand up for Brittany. But like if she was like

452
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 2: some crackhead on the street around here, you'd be like

453
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,479
Speaker 2: that lady sucks. She's like negligent to her kids, and

454
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,239
Speaker 2: like she deserves to lose her kids, you know what

455
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 2: I mean, Like, well, this is what I'm getting, the

456
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 2: same behaviors.

457
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 1: I feel like what I was saying earlier is going

458
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: to come across like I'm defending what she did, and

459
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: if these things are true, I'm absolutely not and I

460
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: think they're disgusting things. But like she's not there, and

461
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: that's the point I'm trying to get it.

462
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 2: One conversation that's serious that we I guess that we

463
00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 2: just have to have as a society is if if

464
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: everyone can attribute them can attribute their behaviors to and

465
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 2: being an asshole to mental illness, then like, who is

466
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: really responsible for anything? And does anybody ever do any wrong?

467
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: Because you can always you can always just be like, well,

468
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 2: just all these videos that I've been seeing online of

469
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 2: these different narcissistic personalities sort of burden out blah blah,

470
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 2: all these things right, autism and as an adult add

471
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: autism of all this stuff neurodivergent, all these words. It's

472
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 2: just like you're literally giving every single person an excuse

473
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 2: to just suck at life.

474
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: No, because I think there's a fine line between people

475
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: that can function day to day and they have problems,

476
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: and I think there's people like her that, like, I

477
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 1: don't even think she can drive or do anything. I

478
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: don't think she's a functional person like that, So she could.

479
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 2: Dance in over your bichanium knife.

480
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: Think about somebody with schizophrenia, they're totally out of their mind.

481
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: Are they in the category she's something dynagic?

482
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I'm just using that as an example.

483
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: Thinkause somebody was schizophrenia, Are they in the same category

484
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 1: as somebody that's, you know, going to work every day

485
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 1: and being sane, but they just are a bad persian

486
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: or they just are fucking narcissists, you know they're not.

487
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: Narcissism is in personality disorder, and it could narcissists can

488
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: function in society and their day to day life worre schizophrenic.

489
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Speaker 1: So that's where you draw the line, if they could

490
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: function in society or not. I feel like she's on

491
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: the level of having like mental delusion and not fully

492
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Speaker 1: being present.

493
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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I don't know about any of

494
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 2: that shit. I don't know enough about it.

495
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Speaker 1: I'm just like, I just I'm just saying that's my

496
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: perspective from what I hear in Hollywood about her, from videos,

497
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 1: I observe of her behavior, everything we've seen in the press.

498
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 1: I obviously don't know her personally, but.

499
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Speaker 2: I mean, I listen, I'm not like an anti Britney person.

500
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: I feel I do feel terrible for her, and I

501
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 2: think if she was, if she was a guy, we

502
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: would be having a totally different conversation. It's just like

503
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: she lived, she's she's blew up so much as a

504
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: sixteen year old child, and she's been under the microscope

505
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 2: this whole entire time, so every single time. I can't imagine,

506
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 2: just think, thinking back on my life of different bad

507
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: periods I went through, I can't like it was hard

508
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 2: enough to go through in the privacy of my own home,

509
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 2: let alone being in the public like that. I can't

510
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 2: imagine what just that level of fame does to a person.

511
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 2: And you could see it makes most of them kind

512
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 2: of weird, honestly.

513
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: Well, I kind of compare her to Judy Garland in

514
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: a way. Because you know, they had similar pads and

515
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: the sense of Judy Garland got so famous as a

516
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 1: teenager for being a Wizard of Oz, and then all

517
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, there's all this demand for

518
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: her and the studio and her agents and everybody around her,

519
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 1: like I don't give a shit if you're sick, take

520
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: this pill, take this pill, take this pill. And then

521
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you have a lifelong drug addict

522
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: and her brain is fried all at the hands of

523
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: other people that are making money off of her.

524
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,719
Speaker 2: They're puppets. Yeah, I know, it's it's terrible. And she

525
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: especially with her too, it was like, you know, if

526
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: you compare someone like her to to Taylor Swift, it

527
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 2: was like Taylor Swift, which gets on my nerves. So

528
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm saying this, but she she kind

529
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 2: of evolved to what she is on her own in

530
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 2: a way. It seems like she wanted to do the music.

531
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously she had people helping her along the

532
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: way and stuff, but Britney spears, she seems like she's

533
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: she was more of a performer and they were just

534
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: like like she didn't make her own music. They were

535
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: just like this is who you're gonna be, this is

536
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: the look you're gonna have, this is the song you're

537
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: gonna sing, and you're just gonna get up there and

538
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 2: do it. Like, Yes, she's she's a performer, I think.

539
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: And it's just it's they and they made their money

540
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: off of her for this short period, but I just

541
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: think it permanently damaged the rest of her life. And

542
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: it's very sad for a mom to not have raised

543
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: her children and to still not have a great relationship

544
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 2: with them, if any relationship at all. It's just really

545
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: terrible to see.

546
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: I mean, this is gonna be my week of book recommendations,

547
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: especially for tomorrow's episode. But like I also think people

548
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: if they want a similar inside look with a person

549
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: that wasn't quite affected, I think people should read I'm

550
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: Glad my Mom Died by Jeanette McCurdy because it gives

551
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: a good example from the child's perspective of parents that

552
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: are forcing this job on their child and how it

553
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: could affect their life so deeply.

554
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: Like I'm into the Weeds a ton on Britney Spears

555
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: and this whole conservatorship and stuff. But I would I

556
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: would say that the biggest person to blame in this

557
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: situation is probably like her parents. It's oh, of course,

558
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 2: but didn't jam I forget because I didn't. I just

559
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: recall this now, just scrolling through that Jamie Lynn had

560
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 2: said something negative about Brittany in the news this week

561
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 2: as well.

562
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: Jamie Lynn wrote a book, you know, like everybody in

563
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: her life's writing books like oh she was the worst,

564
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, Like Okay, well you guys would have

565
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: anything if it wasn't for her. So like that's just

566
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: kind of where I'm coming at, Like, I understand Kevin

567
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: Federlines had an extremely difficult time. I'm not saying what

568
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: happened in was easy and dealing with somebody like that's

569
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: not easy, but I don't think you should exploit it either.

570
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about this next case of an

571
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: extreme bring your child to work day.

572
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: So, a brain surgeon in Australia allegedly allowed her twelve

573
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: year old daughter to drill a hole in a patient's

574
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: skull during an emergency surgery.

575
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: Like, I don't even know what to say about this,

576
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: but it is interesting because I don't know how it

577
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 2: works in Australia and I don't know why the kid.

578
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: There was the kid there for well, it does seem

579
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: like maybe the mom got called in to do this

580
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 2: emergency surgery, as that would happen, and then the kid

581
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: tagged along.

582
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: That wasn't clarified. But this happened in January of twenty

583
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: twenty four. So they're saying a farm worker was flown

584
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: to the hospital after a tree branch fell on his head,

585
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: So they said the kid was there. She reportedly had

586
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: an interest in medicine, so the bomb encouraged her to

587
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: get into scrubs and come into operating room with them,

588
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: and that's when the incident happened.

589
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: So I don't necessarily have a problem with the kid

590
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: being there because, like I was just saying, like in

591
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: our country, we do bring your kid to work day,

592
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: and the kids always they'll say they want to go

593
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: to work with Gabe and we're just like, you can't.

594
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 2: You can't go to work with daddy, Like what are

595
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: you going to do if he has to leave on

596
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: the fire truck day? So you always wonder what to

597
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 2: do with kids if you have important jobs. And I

598
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 2: mean I used to bring you to work a lot,

599
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: but there is there is I mean, you would come

600
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: to work when you were definitely that age and be

601
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: around blood borne pathogens and stuff. I mean, it probably

602
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: wasn't a great idea, honestly. The liability of that.

603
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: Well, you weren't working with live patients, so it's a

604
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: little different. But you wouldn't just be like, go grab

605
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: a scalpel blade and cut this placenta open like you

606
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: would show stuff.

607
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,959
Speaker 2: I would never No, I would never put you in

608
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 2: any kind of situation like that. But I mean the

609
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 2: worst thing I had you do was run slides back

610
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 2: to the pathologists, probably right like.

611
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 1: I mean, later, I think I helped sometimes with making

612
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: like frozens, but not even really. I was like, yay,

613
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: you would just like make the chalk for us or whatever.

614
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: And that's when I was an official intern. I wasn't

615
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: just there. I was actually an intern, and.

616
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: You weren't doing the actual specimens. You were just making

617
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: like the base with the frozen stuff for yeah, exactly.

618
00:32:55,080 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, I think the way that it

619
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: went down is even more unusual because it seems as

620
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: if the mom left the room to take a phone

621
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: call and there was another like a more junior surgeon

622
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,959
Speaker 2: in the room, and the kid did it and it

623
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: wasn't like the mom was holding it and the kid

624
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 2: was just kind of holding it too. At the same time,

625
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: it was like the kid legitimately was drilling into someone's skull.

626
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: And I'm assuming they were making burholes or something like

627
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: that to allow evacuation of a clot or swelling. But

628
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: what I guess what's scary about that. I've never worked

629
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: on a skull from that perspective, But I don't know

630
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: how the tools are made. If they're made in a

631
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: certain way that the drill bit can't go into the

632
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: brain tissue, because that would just be absolutely devastating. So

633
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's some kind of a way to there's

634
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: certain tools or tips or something to prevent something like

635
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: that from happening. But what, like, why is a lawsuit

636
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: coming forth because it seems as if the guy didn't

637
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: have any complications and he was fine.

638
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a lawsuit. I think that they

639
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: were criminally charged.

640
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 2: So the patient really is like, how did this come

641
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: to light? Like somebody eventually said something about it.

642
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: So this is where it's kind of confusing, and there's

643
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: conflicting reports because they're like, Okay, so the senior surgeons

644
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: and the junior surgeons were all fired because they were

645
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: in the room and let it happen, basically, and the

646
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: mother is saying, quote, my biggest mistake was letting her

647
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: go to the operating table. So in some capacity, she's

648
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: admitting she let her in the room, but then she's

649
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: denying that they let the kid hold the drill. But

650
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: then the junior surgeon is saying he was holding it

651
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Speaker 1: the entire time, and she just kind of helped or

652
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Speaker 1: had her hands on it too. And then another person

653
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Speaker 1: in the room says, yeah, there was or two sets

654
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: of hands on it. But didn't the mom go around

655
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: bragging to people that, oh, my daughter did her first

656
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: droll hole, yeah, something like that. So I don't like

657
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: something happened, Yeah, I don't. I hope to god she

658
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: wasn't dumb enough to post something like that online. But

659
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: are she clearly isn't making great decisions as it is.

660
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,720
Speaker 1: I would say in the room, everybody was either fine

661
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: with it or they weren't going to challenge this woman

662
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: if she was a senior surgeon, right, because we see

663
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: a lot of that too, where other people working in

664
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: the room are not going to challenge the higher up.

665
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: But she did go around bragging to all her other

666
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: colleagues about it, So one of those people might have

667
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: been like, this is a major red flag and then

668
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: an investigation popped up and there it went, you know, yeah,

669
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Speaker 1: and now they're on trials.

670
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just probably it's just probably not a

671
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 2: good idea on so many levels to put to bring

672
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 2: your kid to certain jobs, just because that's also just

673
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: a liability of again the child being exposed to bone

674
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 2: dust and just things that they really shouldn't they're not

675
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: prepared to handle. And let's say, for example, the guy

676
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: coated on the table and they had and like the

677
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: guy was dying in front of this little kid, Like

678
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 2: they don't need to see that shit either, you know.

679
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 1: No, And I guess if they're found guilty, this charge

680
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 1: could be punishable by up to a year in prison.

681
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: So was it worth losing your job and going to

682
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: jail just we need to like brag about your kid.

683
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: We need to make a list of like doctors who

684
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 2: who sabotaged their own careers over dumb shit. Literally this

685
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 2: is so stupid, Like no, seriously, it's it's like becoming

686
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 2: a theme on this show. This episode is brought to

687
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Speaker 2: you by the Grosser Room. Guys, this week's high profile.

688
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 2: That dissection is something I highly encourage that you read.

689
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: It is based on an episode of Unsolved Mysteries and

690
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: it is about a really disturbing case of a teenager

691
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 2: who found a decapitated head in a wooded area. And

692
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: one of the weirdest parts of this case is that

693
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: it might not even be a homicide. It sounds weird

694
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 2: to think about finding a head in a wooded area

695
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 2: and it not immediately have been cut off of a person,

696
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 2: But this story has it is just outrageous. And if

697
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 2: you think that's outrageous, that's not even the most outrageous

698
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: part of the story, believe it or not. We also

699
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 2: have a couple cases in the Grosser Room. This Forensic

700
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Speaker 2: Friday this week was about being buried alive and how

701
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 2: we could tell the difference if someone was buried alive

702
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: or if they were buried after they were killed. So

703
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Speaker 2: all that in the morn the gross it out for

704
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Speaker 2: five ninety nine a month.

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Speaker 1: Head over to the gross Room dot com now to

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Speaker 2: Okay, fake baby.

708
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Speaker 1: This story has been all over TikTok. I just was

709
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: I've been seeing it everywhere basically, and then a couple

710
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: of you sent it to me, so I was like,

711
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't know if I should believe

712
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: it or not. I have to wait until, like some

713
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 1: type of news article comes out, And sure enough one

714
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: did pretty quickly, and I was excited to break it down.

715
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: This was the other story I was saying, reminding me

716
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Speaker 1: of the episode with doctor Leslie Dobson.

717
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so let me break it down.

718
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: In Scotland, this woman named Kia Cousins allegedly faked a

719
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: pregnancy by wearing a fake bump and claim she gave

720
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: birth earlier this month, only for her family to find

721
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: out the baby was one of those weird reborn dolls.

722
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 2: We've had a couple stories about these reborn dolls on

723
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 2: the show, and they're all weird. Remember the one lady

724
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 2: that like breastfed them. Yes, they are so weird. I

725
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: don't really understand. I mean, I guess they say that

726
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: they're creative for people that might grieving mothers, grieving mothers

727
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 2: and stuff. I just I don't really, I don't really

728
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: understand the point. And I think there's a certain kind

729
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 2: of weirdness if you have one of these things and

730
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: they're really expensive.

731
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Speaker 1: I'm kind of questioning the intelligence level of everybody involved

732
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: in this story because I've been seeing some footage and

733
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable.

734
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 2: So wait, there's actual footage of what this woman looked

735
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 2: like with her fake pregnancy work. Yeah, and it's and

736
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: you're like, it's so obvious.

737
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: I saw a clip from her baby shower and immediately

738
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: she's wearing a super tight dress and immediately when she

739
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: turned around, I was like, you could see the straps

740
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: from the faked So.

741
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 2: One of her friends did say, I knew it was

742
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 2: fake all along. She's been a liar her whole life,

743
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: but I didn't want to be the one to come

744
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 2: out to say it because everyone would have thought that

745
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 2: I was the jerk. And it's true, Like if if

746
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: she went up there and said that you look like

747
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 2: cause who does that?

748
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: So like you making the accusation because you look like horrible.

749
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: It's really scary that someone would go to such depths

750
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: to carry on a light, especially.

751
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 2: Like you can carry. You know, the people that like

752
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 2: fake have in cancer. Yeah, you could tell everybody you

753
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 2: have cancer and then you could get treatment and then

754
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 2: you could say, oh, the chemotherapy worked and I no

755
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 2: longer have cancer, and you could collect a bunch of money,

756
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 2: And like, I guess there's a possibility that nobody would

757
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 2: ever figure it out because with cancer, it doesn't always

758
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: result in death. There's not always an end result, right

759
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: or they vary. With pregnancy, it always ends in a baby.

760
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 2: So how are you going to fake something that is alive?

761
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean that?

762
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: Well, this is why I'm questioning intelligence to people. But

763
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 1: hold up, so let me go back to the lights

764
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: she took first. So she's wearing the freak the fake belly,

765
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: which we talked about in that other story with doctor Leslie. Also,

766
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: she posted all these scans. She had videos of the

767
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: baby kicking, which I assume we're either made via AI

768
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 1: or she just pulled others people wearing neutral clothing. And

769
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: then she even provided doctor updates claiming that the baby

770
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: had a heart defect. So then what I'm seeing on

771
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: TikTok what happens? So this is I guess this is

772
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: all I'll good for. But like this in particular is

773
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: the biggest rip flag. She said she was having a

774
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: fight with the baby's father, so she decided.

775
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: To give birth alone.

776
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but like, no matter how big of a

777
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: fight I'm getting with my husband or anybody I know

778
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: that's having a baby, somebody's gonna come to the hospital

779
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: and see you forgiving birth. You're not just going to

780
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 1: be alone there for what are you in the hospital

781
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: for two to three days normally?

782
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, a forgiving birth? Well it could be short if

783
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: you have a like on complicated vaginal birth.

784
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: But so then she's sending the baby, pictures of the

785
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 1: baby to family members, and then she's showing the baby

786
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Speaker 1: to family members and they said they started getting suspicious

787
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Speaker 1: because the baby was cold and wasn't making any movement

788
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Speaker 1: or wasn't making any noises.

789
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 2: How do people live? So this is question can you

790
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: imagine experiencing this in real life? Like, think about this

791
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: for a second, Like, it's just so outrageous that someone

792
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: was presenting a doll as real and also assuming she

793
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 2: had a shower and everything, Like, why does she want

794
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 2: all these gifts for a baby that doesn't even exist

795
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 2: that she doesn't need them for. It's just so weird.

796
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: She's clearly a pathological liar and clearly on the verge

797
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: of mental illness because she's.

798
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: Not on any verds. There's no verch. She's a full

799
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 2: on crazy perd exactly.

800
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: So then I guess everybody started getting suspicious about it.

801
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: And then her mom busted in her house and found

802
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: doll in her bedroom, and that's when she admitted it.

803
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: So then after that she texted the child's dad and

804
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: said the baby died. I have a theory happens in

805
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: people's lives.

806
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 2: I have a theory the Reborn company is going out

807
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: to people and having them say to them, listen, we're

808
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: gonna pay you a ton of money to make up

809
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 2: the most outrageous story with these babies in order to

810
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 2: get publicity for it. It's the only thing that makes sense.

811
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 2: Like they went to somebody before and was like, okay,

812
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: you just go online and say that, you know, we'll

813
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 2: give you two thousand dollars, and you go online and

814
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 2: say you and you go online and yeah, allegedly you

815
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 2: go online and say that you stick your boob in

816
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: this fake doll's mouth, and it's gonna go viral and

817
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 2: our name Reborn is going to be all over the place.

818
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 2: Then this time it's like, you know what that Okay,

819
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: we've seen a diminished in sales. Let's let's give another

820
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 2: person a couple thousand dollars to make up this outrageous story. Like,

821
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: I just can't believe that this is this stuff is

822
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: happening in real life.

823
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: So there's all these other videos popping up, which I

824
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: don't know if they're AI or they're really her, but

825
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: it's allegedly her addressing it, and she's she just keeps going, yeah,

826
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry for what I did. You know what.

827
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 2: The sad obviously no remorse. The saddest part of life

828
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: right now is that from now until the day that

829
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 2: we die, will constantly be saying, I don't know if

830
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 2: this is real or AI. Yeah, like so scary, So like,

831
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 2: what's the point of life like that you don't know

832
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 2: what's real and what's fake. It's just including a baby,

833
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: I suppose. And that's why I.

834
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 1: Wanted to point out that this story is primarily circulating

835
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: on TikTok, but now real news outlets are covering it.

836
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: But I do have this inner feeling at the same

837
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: time that the whole thing is fake because it has

838
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 1: no outrageous I can't believe it.

839
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,439
Speaker 2: It has to be. I hope it is. I hope

840
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 2: for for humanity, for everything. Well, we talked about I mean,

841
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 2: this is a little bit different, but the case that

842
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: we have with joe Jaqualone last week about a woman

843
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 2: who I mean, she was really pregnant and she really

844
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 2: had a miscarriage, but she gave the dead feet us

845
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: to her ex in a cooler to get back at him.

846
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, like, women fake pregnancies. This has been

847
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 2: going on since the beginning of time. Well yeah, and.

848
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: I want to say too, like to your point that

849
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: you made earlier, there are people in the comments on

850
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: these videos saying, who cares she got famous off of it?

851
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: What is she so?

852
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 2: Yeah? But like is that what the goal of life

853
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: is is to become famous?

854
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: Yeah? But like you're famous for faking a pregnancy. Like,

855
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: it's not like you got famous for doing anything good,

856
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: good or stupid like dancing. You're the girl that faked pregnancy.

857
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: This story is just absolutely so bizarre. And like when

858
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: I see pictures that she's allegedly sending of this baby

859
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: to her family members, I'm like, are these people also

860
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: not smart that they can't tell in the photos it's

861
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: obviously not a real baby.

862
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: Well, it's It's just the same as we talk about

863
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 2: in lots of different cases it like, what was that

864
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 2: one girl's name? Lake and Snelling? Yeah, remember the one

865
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: recently the cheerleader that had her baby and killed it.

866
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: Every it seems like everyone around her was like, she's

867
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 2: definitely pregnant, but like nobody wanted to say anything because

868
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 2: it to be the rare chance that you were wrong

869
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 2: about something that was very obvious in front of your

870
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: face was too scary for them to bring up. And

871
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 2: it's the same in this case, Like to accuse a

872
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: woman that's pregnant of not being pregnant is like it's

873
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 2: kind of like crossing a really big line that if

874
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 2: you're wrong, that's that's not cool.

875
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 1: Do you think there's a possibility that she really got

876
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: pregnant and had a miscarriage? Andrews just like, I'll just

877
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: get pregnant again really.

878
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 2: Quick, or yeah, like or she or she had the

879
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 2: miscarriage and she just felt she liked the attention she

880
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 2: was getting for me and just didn't tell anybody. And

881
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 2: there's lots of possibilities.

882
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: But I mean, she also could have just totally made

883
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: it up in nowhere. But what I just don't understand.

884
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: I understand did she also not have sex with the dude?

885
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 2: The entire time, because like, if she was naked, it

886
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 2: would have been obvious. I didn't even think about that. Like,

887
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: he never saw her naked the whole time she was pregnant.

888
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 2: And I understand women get away with this for a

889
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 2: long time because they could just be like, oh, I

890
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 2: go to the ultratounds by myself whatever. But like once

891
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 2: the hospital was oh I gave birth by myself, I

892
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: was like, okay, either your family really sucks or like,

893
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 2: there's something fishy here. And then people are holding this

894
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: doll and saying, oh, it's cold because it's not alive. See,

895
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: that's how she ruined it. She should have put one

896
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 2: of those handwarmer things in the blanket. She clearly really

897
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: gave it away. They wouldn't have noticed when the kid

898
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 2: was four years old and still rubber. Unbelievable.

899
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: All right, let's wrap up with this funeral home story. So,

900
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: an LA County funeral home is being sued by a

901
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: family after they presented the wrong body in a casket

902
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 1: during a memorial and the distress caused another loved one

903
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: to have a heart attack at the funeral.

904
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: I swear we talked about something like this before. I

905
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 2: swear we did I just can't. I can't remember where

906
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 2: and I couldn't find it, But I feel like that

907
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 2: we've talked about this before, but he likely had what

908
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 2: we call a broken heart disease. Remember we've talked about

909
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 2: this before that that this can happen under severe emotional distress.

910
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 2: It's called Takasubo cardiomyopathy. And the reason it's called that

911
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 2: is because the heart makes a very unusual shape that

912
00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 2: causes the it to squeeze in a very unus usual way.

913
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 2: It weakens the chambers and it looks like what's called

914
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 2: a taco subo pot, which is a Japanese fishing pot

915
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 2: that catches an octopus. So that's why it got that name.

916
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 2: But it happens under severe emotional distress that they're you know,

917
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 2: your fight or flight hormones get released really fast, and

918
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 2: they could be toxic on the heart muscle as well

919
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 2: as it could cause coronary artery spasms. So it's not

920
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 2: typical of what you would see with a heart attack,

921
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 2: for example, but it could also induce something if this

922
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 2: guy had an underlying heart condition as well. And I

923
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 2: mean we've talked about definitely on the show multiple times

924
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 2: of people going into a funeral viewing and it not

925
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 2: being their family member, And I could imagine that that's

926
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: just a severe emotional distress of even though you've already

927
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 2: lost them and they're dead, just being like, well, who

928
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 2: is this and where's my loved one? That's time period

929
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: when they're miss and you don't know where they're at

930
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 2: is equally as devastating to a person.

931
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,240
Speaker 1: Well think about this too, because it took the funeral

932
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: home over an hour to locate his body, and then

933
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: they were saying they were seriously downplaying it to being

934
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: a scheduling error that they made. And then even though

935
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: this funeral costs twenty thousand dollars, they were like, we'll

936
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: give you two hundred dollars refoot. So I think, in

937
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: general so insulting. It's so upsetting when it's not the

938
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: right person. And then on top of that, you're having

939
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: these people, you know, we're talking about this last week

940
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: when you like go to the doctor and they tell

941
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: you all this money that you weren't expecting and then

942
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: your blood pressure is so high you feel like you're

943
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: gonna have a stroke. And I could understand that, So

944
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: it's like not only distressing, you're there for a horrible reason.

945
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 2: You're grieving, and then this company's being a total asshole

946
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 2: and just blowing you off. Well good, I hope their

947
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 2: negative press is. I would like if I was reading

948
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 2: about a specific funeral home doing something like that, and

949
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 2: especially it justn't It wasn't like, oh, he's in the

950
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 2: back and we switched the bodies. They brought them into

951
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 2: another room and they were like, yeah, that's still not him.

952
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: You know.

953
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 2: It was like there was a way too long of

954
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 2: a period of like, where is our nephew and our

955
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 2: family member right now? Like, no, no's and he was

956
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 2: the guy who died was my age, right, he was

957
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 2: like in his mid forties.

958
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. Important to note, however, that the uncle that had

959
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: the heart attack did survive.

960
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 2: Yeah he did, thank God. But what I'm saying though,

961
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 2: is like the guy who was in the casket, or

962
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 2: supposed to be in the casket was a younger person.

963
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 2: So yeah, that is upsetting too. It's not like it

964
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 2: was ninety eight year old grandpa that like had a

965
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 2: good life and we all expected him to die. It

966
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 2: was probably an unexpected death to begin with.

967
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: Oh, no, one hundred percent. All right, let's move on

968
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: to your comments and questions. Instagram has been worse than ever.

969
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: So if you guys have a pressing question, I would

970
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: encourage you to email it to Stories that Mother Knows Death,

971
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: along with any comments or contributions to stories you've heard whatever.

972
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 2: You want to say.

973
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 1: All right, First, have you ever seen a high I

974
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: don't even know if I hide it to formalhed it

975
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: to the formal. This listener is saying, my mother had

976
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: one that they thought was her fifth child. I believe

977
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: she had false labor at five months. When they found it,

978
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: my dad was relieved that he didn't have to get

979
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: a bigger house.

980
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 2: So, yeah, it's I have seen it, and it's it's

981
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 2: kind of cool from a scientific perspective to see it.

982
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 2: Of course, in a situation where a person thinks that

983
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 2: they're having a baby, it's definitely not cool. But what

984
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 2: happens is that it's an abnormal fertilized egg that implants

985
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 2: into the uterus and causes a mass to form instead

986
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 2: of either a normal pregnancy or the placenta growing correctly.

987
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 2: So there's two different kinds that you could have. So

988
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 2: you could have a compl mole, which is when a

989
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 2: fertilized egg contains two copies of the chromosome from the

990
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 2: father only and not the mother, so no baby grows,

991
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: and instead of a placenta, it just is like a

992
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 2: sack of grapes that it looks like like a bunch

993
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 2: of cysts. A partial one is a fertilized egg that

994
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: has a normal set of chromosomes from the mother and

995
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 2: two sets from the father, so there's sixty nine chromosomes

996
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 2: instead of forty six. And those cases are even more

997
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 2: sad because in those cases a fetus can grow, but

998
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 2: the placenta is just basically a cluster of grapes and

999
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: it doesn't function as a normal placenta, and therefore the

1000
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 2: fetus can't grow because it doesn't have a normal placenta.

1001
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: All right, Two, Who does the cleanup on a road

1002
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: after a bad wreck? Some of the pics you post

1003
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 1: are really messy, and how is the cleanup done?

1004
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 2: You know what else? I want to mention about the

1005
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 2: molar pregnancy. If you have a mole pregnancy, you're at

1006
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 2: an increased for us to have another one. And in

1007
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 2: rare cases, you could get something called an invasive male

1008
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 2: where that tissue that's in there can turn to cancer

1009
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 2: and you could get like a pregnancy related cancer that's

1010
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 2: called choreo carconoma. It's like a really really really rare

1011
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 2: but I've seen that as well. Okay, onto the next

1012
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 2: you're saying, what happens? All right again?

1013
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: What does the cleanup on a road?

1014
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 2: Sorry?

1015
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: Who does the cleanup on a road after a bad wreck?

1016
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: Some of the picture posts are really messy, and how

1017
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: is the cleanup done?

1018
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 2: Don't I don't know at all really, I mean, the

1019
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 2: Medical Examiner's office would collect all of the body parts.

1020
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 2: So if someone gets hit by a truck and they're

1021
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 2: smeared across the road, they're going to pick up as

1022
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 2: many of the body parts as possible, put them in

1023
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 2: a body bag, bring them to the medical Examiner's office.

1024
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I know, my husband's a firefighter.

1025
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 2: There's been cases where he's been called to wipe to

1026
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 2: like sprague blood off the street with the hosts. I

1027
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 2: don't know if that's standard. I have no idea.

1028
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: I would think for maybe highways and stuff, there's a

1029
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: designated maintenance crew that would have to I.

1030
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 2: Mean, there's port there's definitely people. I mean, you've seen

1031
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 2: I just saw a deer that I mean, they could

1032
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 2: be the size of a human smeared across the road.

1033
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 2: There's people that do roadkill, for sure, but I don't

1034
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 2: know if they would be the same people that would

1035
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 2: clean up after something like that. It's just a little

1036
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 2: bit of a different situation because you know, the roads

1037
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 2: normally closed down for hours, and they're investigating and trying

1038
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 2: to find out what happened and look for skid marks

1039
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:41,919
Speaker 2: and this and that where the body was hit, where

1040
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 2: it flew to, body parts flown all over the place

1041
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 2: and that. So I really just I really have no idea,

1042
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 2: but I would think after an accident like that, especially

1043
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 2: investigating it for hours.

1044
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: And you have blood and and tissue that's dried on

1045
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: the road, the only way to really get that up

1046
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: would be with a higher power host. Well, you know,

1047
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: like around here anyway, we have that company Serve Pro too,

1048
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 1: and they deal with demolition and cleanups and crime scene cleanup.

1049
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: So maybe they would get a company like that, because

1050
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: it's not like I mean, obviously, animals are getting killed

1051
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,439
Speaker 1: in the road often, but I think I see their

1052
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 1: blood left there often. But I think if it was

1053
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: a human, they're going to get a special company to

1054
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: come in because it's a little more disturbing for anybody knows.

1055
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: Let us know, let us know, all right. This last

1056
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: email is from our listener named Joe. I travel a

1057
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: lot with my sons for appointments since we live in

1058
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: a rural area, like two and a half to three

1059
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: and a half hours one way. My main go to

1060
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 1: podcast on these drives is MKD. Usually my sons, who

1061
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: are thirteen, eight and five, are on game things. We're tablets,

1062
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,879
Speaker 1: so I assume they never really pay attention much. I'm

1063
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 1: a licensed vettech and we breed horses, so science death

1064
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: are treated very normally and openly, as my kids have

1065
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: seen births in death's firsthands since they were babies. One

1066
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 1: particular trip, my husband went with me and our two youngest.

1067
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: I had paused the podcast to talk to him and

1068
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: then got distracted playing on my phone and forgot to unpause.

1069
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: My eight year old from the back seat said, Mom,

1070
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: are you going to play Mother Knows Death? It's surprised me,

1071
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: She said, do you like MKD? He smiled and said, yeah,

1072
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: they're my favorite. They talk about science and interesting things.

1073
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: I turned the podcast back on and noticed he put

1074
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: his tablet down and was listening He's ADHD and can

1075
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: be pretty restless and difficult, so to have him set

1076
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: down a tablet is a positive change. I also should

1077
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: note my thirteen year old is also a fan. My

1078
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: five year old enjoys the talking and usually has a

1079
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: question or two, but doesn't understand a lot of it.

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Speaker 1: I think you've gained a long time listener and enthusiast.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for all you do. That's so cute. It is

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Speaker 2: so cute. Hi, guys, did she say that their names

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Speaker 2: and it or no?

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Speaker 1: But she'll have to play this for them because we

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Speaker 1: love to hear that. It's super cool. And to think

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Speaker 1: we have the power to have a child putting a

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Speaker 1: tablets incredible. If only I could get that power for

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Speaker 1: my own child. I'm like the whole ADHD thing. I'm like, girl,

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Speaker 1: I feel you with.

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Speaker 2: My one kid. Jesus, oh my god, the kids can't

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Speaker 2: sit down.

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Speaker 1: Somebody at our live show what asked if the kids

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Speaker 1: thought we were cool or something, or if they thought

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Speaker 1: I was cool, And I was like, no, they think

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Speaker 1: we're both losers.

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Speaker 2: They put nothing to.

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Speaker 1: Do with anything we say, which is so funny.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was it. It is funny because they'll when

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Speaker 2: we like Gabe and I bring the kids to school

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Speaker 2: almost every single day that he's not at work or

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Speaker 2: something and pick them up at the same time, you know,

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Speaker 2: and we'll be pulling up to the school to drop

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Speaker 2: them off, and the kids will be like, you know

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Speaker 2: when you pull up and they're all standing out front

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Speaker 2: of the door, they're like, pull up, pull up, we

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Speaker 2: don't want to get out right here. And we're like,

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Speaker 2: why you don't want to be seen with us? And

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Speaker 2: then they get out of the car and me and

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Speaker 2: gave us look at each other and we're like, they

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Speaker 2: don't think that we're cool at all, like compare to

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Speaker 2: other people, Like they just don't even care like about

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Speaker 2: us at all. They just think that we're total dorks.

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Speaker 2: Like what could you do to be cool to a kid?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Just just not be their parent.

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Speaker 1: That's it, Like there'sact exactly, or don't be their older

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Speaker 1: sister who they should think is the coolest person in

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Speaker 1: the world. It's that they just make fun of me

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Speaker 1: every day. You are an easy target. I have an

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Speaker 1: easy target. Okay, guys, well, thank you very much. We

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Speaker 1: are going to have a very special episode for you

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Speaker 1: tomorrow with one Joseph Scott Morgan. We cannot wait for

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Speaker 1: you to hear it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you guys are it's really good. I love him

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Speaker 2: so much. He's just hit him and his wife Kim,

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Speaker 2: they're just the best and I love it. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: just love them so much. And you guys are love

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Speaker 2: on his family. And he's got some little tidbits that

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Speaker 2: are very interesting. As you It's gonna be so great,

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