WEBVTT - UFC Seattle RECAP: Pyfer vs Adesanya Reaction, Mike Perry Joins LIVE 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:08.320 M m. 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:23.439 H m hm hm hm hm. 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:31.480 Hm hm The John Anick and Kenny Florian Podcast, John 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:34.560 Annick and Kenny Florian, I fucking love him. 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:36.080 I can't get enough of him. 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:38.159 That big job. 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:45.480 There, Produccia prak Beer honduh Rock. 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:51.400 I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved. 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:55.200 You are your hosts, John Anick and Kenny Florian. 0:00:56.720 --> 0:01:01.480 That's all. 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:05.000 Oh, right back in the saddle and always the pleasure 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:08.240 is on this side of the camera or microphone. Good 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:11.120 Monday too, your March thirtieth, twenty twenty six. It is 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:13.840 episode five eighty nine of the an Florian Podcast powered 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:16.920 by All the Smoke Fight. Kenny, are you wearing that 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:20.240 Celtic Kelly Green? Because you watched the Boston Celtics beat 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:22.199 the Charlotte Hornets live in person last night? 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:24.880 Maybe maybe we did get a win. It was a 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:28.680 good game. Uh taitum was hot. Yeah, and yeah it 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:33.679 was my first time, like the redid the Charlotte yet, dude, 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:39.039 it's nice. Yeah, dude, I think half or more of 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:41.680 the audience there were Celtics fans, so that was pretty funny. 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:42.240 Yeah. 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:44.280 Yeah, Boston sports fans travel well. 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:46.560 But yeah, good to hear that you were going to 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:48.080 be in the building last night, and if I had 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:50.240 more advanced notice, I would have reached out, of course, 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:52.560 to our good friend, the Boston Celtics head coach Joe Mizula. 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:57.960 That's right, yeah, who incidentally texted me on Saturday asking 0:01:58.000 --> 0:01:59.320 me who I thought was going to win the fight 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:03.120 between Isra Lota Sonia and Joe Pifer. And that's awesome, 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:06.480 an amazing main event, an amazing card. What a weekend 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:10.040 for the UFC in Seattle. Order restored is my thesis 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:12.280 statement on the weekend. We will get into all of that. 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:14.799 The man of the weekend was Joe Pifer, who was 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:16.600 scheduled to join us here live in a few minutes. 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:18.840 We will also talk to Platinum Mike Perry at the 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.280 bottom of the hour. He's got a big mixed martial 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:23.240 arts contest coming up against Nathan Diaz. 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:24.640 Of course, on May sixteenth. 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:27.840 Ray Longo will join us as he always does, and 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:29.400 we will also look ahead at the end of the 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:32.799 show to UFC Fight Night Moikano versus Duncan, a couple 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:36.280 of American Top team teammates, the Men on the Marquee 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.680 at the UFC Apex This weekend, and thanks to everybody 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:42.120 for joining us live. Some people in the comments suggesting 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:44.640 we are the lunch break crew, let us know about 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:47.240 the time slot. Would you rather ten am Eastern the 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:50.079 old time slot eleven am Eastern. We're right now noon 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:52.080 on the screws, but let us know. You know, we 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.680 moved it back so that Ray Longo could get his 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:57.560 beauty sleep. But a lot to get into. Massive weekend 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:03.200 for the UFC in the Pacific Northwest. Get to headlines, headlines. 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:04.680 It's time for headlines. 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:08.720 I have some very urgent and important breaking new headlines 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.520 on the John and Kenny scions contest. 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:17.800 Well, what makes mixed martial arts great. 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:23.840 Is when you have former champions like Israelata Sonia willing 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:27.960 to give opportunities to up and coming contenders like Joe Pifer. 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:33.120 The danger factor in this matchup certainly was not lost 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:35.120 on is He, but given where he was at this 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.320 stage of his career, put his high ranking on the 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:40.280 line against a contender with a lot of skills and 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:43.240 a lot of different departments. Kenny and Joe Pifer gets 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:45.520 it done. The TKO comes at the four eighteen mark 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:47.920 of round two, and not without some adversity. 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:49.640 For Joe, he had to battle through some things. 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.040 Certainly is he realized some success on the feet, but 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:53.720 at the end of the dough at the day, there 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:57.160 is a new top flight Middleway contender and it is 0:03:57.280 --> 0:03:59.480 Joe body Bags Python. 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:03.000 I thought it was a really impressive performance, especially given 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.560 what you talked about how he did have to battle 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.800 back from some serious adversity. You know, I thought Israel 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:11.760 outis Sonya was doing a great job of utilizing variety 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:15.360 of keeping Joe on the outside, attacking with the leg kicks, 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:20.360 but then he welcomed Joe into a world that you 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:22.640 know was not his strength, and it was the strength 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:26.080 of Joe Pifer and that was just trading power shots. 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:28.360 Joe is the more powerful guy. 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:30.680 We've seen him put a lot of guys to sleep 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:34.120 with just one shot, and I think those shots were accruing. 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.160 They were doing a lot of damage to Izzy, and 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:41.080 I'm not totally certain that out of Sonya's reaction time 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:44.440 or speed is what it used to be, and Joe 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:45.640 took full advantage. 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:46.599 Of it, kept pressing forward. 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.080 But on the ground is really where he took full 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:53.000 advantage of Izzy's weakness. And I thought was a very 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:56.120 complete performance. From Joe Pifer. Very impressive. 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:59.080 Crazy to think about what a difference a year makes 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:02.080 for Joe Pifer. Right, he was deathly ill a year 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:04.840 ago in Mexico City and that resulted in a delay 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.880 of the Kelvin Gastallom fight, and he's just responded so 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:12.200 well since that bit of UFC adversity, I guess, I mean, 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:13.680 you can go back to the Contender series, but the 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:16.080 fight against Jack Ermanson and he's really sort of rounded 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:19.680 into form. And anyone who sort of was following how 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:22.479 things were going during fight week understood that Joe was 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:24.840 dealing with some mental things in advance of this fight, 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:27.920 even a couple weeks before the fight, suggesting that he 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:31.520 was having suicidal thoughts. So to come through, to lean 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:33.799 into faith and spirit the way he has and produce 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.920 a performance like this with such a huge step up 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:38.719 in competition, you know, A tip of the cap to 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:40.640 Joe Pifer, who I mentioned his schedule to join us 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.480 here in a few minutes, But what a performance by him. 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:46.000 And I do think he was able to have his 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:49.680 power heard from on the feet. And I certainly think 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:52.760 that while at Asanya realized some success and you know, 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:55.000 maybe had the fight extended, who knows. I do feel 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:57.800 like Pifer's power was starting to really be heard from 0:05:57.880 --> 0:05:59.600 and then obviously he got the fight where he has 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:00.760 the design advantage. 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:02.640 Yeah, he just started. 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.960 Kind of trading with Pifer, which I think was was 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:07.839 an odd decision. You know, is he is so tough 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:11.520 and perhaps you know, tried to make it a battle 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:14.760 of wills a little bit too much. But as tough 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:17.120 as I is, he is and we've seen that toughness 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:18.880 in the past many many times. 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:23.000 I feel, and I've said this before, it's an insurance, polsy. 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:25.520 It's a thing you use just in case. 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:28.200 It's not a thing where you just kind of break 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:31.400 the glass just because and you start using this thing. 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:33.719 You do it because you're in trouble. And I don't 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:36.400 think he needed to use it at that point. That's 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:39.440 where he needed to kind of regroup, put Piper on 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:42.160 the outside and go back to what was making him successful, 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:45.240 and that was variety and keeping him on the outside, 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:47.080 he allowed Pifer to get on the inside. 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:49.159 He started trading shots. 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:52.640 And showed a little bit too machismo, you know, too 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:55.719 much of that, and I think that's where Pifer took 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:58.000 full advantage and then ended up, you know, taking to 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:00.719 the ground and and really put a number on Izzy. 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:04.200 But you know, it shows that Pifer is way more 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:06.720 complete as a fighter. I also think that if this 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:08.560 happened a few years ago, John, I don't know if 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:11.240 you would have responded in the same manner. From everything 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:14.440 he said, like even his voice sounds more mature. Everything 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:17.920 about Pifer, he just seems like he has embraced his 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:21.000 role and what he's supposed to do, and he's comfortable 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:21.320 in it. 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:22.960 And it's great to see. 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.560 They say, God will give you what you can handle, 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:29.960 maybe right up to the point where he breaks you, 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:31.320 but don't give you. 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:32.840 More than you can handle. 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:36.280 And certainly at times I think Joe Pifer, certainly in 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:39.560 his formative years, dealt with so many different trials and 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:43.200 tribulations and adversity, homeless at one point in time, and 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:46.160 not having the parental structure that a lot of us 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:49.360 take for granted. And to see him emergent through this 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:52.880 and to beat a former undisputed UFC midweight champion in Israel, 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:54.960 lot of Sonya, whom he called during fight week the 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:57.760 greatest middleweight champion of all time, is just a tremendous 0:07:57.760 --> 0:07:59.360 tremendous winner. We'll spend a lot of time over the 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:01.680 course of the show living in Joe Pifer's win and 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:05.640 spinning it forward for him. How far does Kenny think 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:07.320 he can take this thing? There are a lot of 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:10.720 vaunted middleweight challenges that certainly await Joe Piper now that 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:13.440 presumably he will reside in the top five. All three 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:18.640 judges gave Izzy round one, and who knows how this 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:20.400 fight would have played out had it gotten out of 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.920 a round two or into the championship main event rounds 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:25.880 as it were. But I want to go back a 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:29.000 few months to what I felt was just wayward Alexander 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:34.360 Volkanovsky retirement talk as it relates to adasanya retirement talk here. 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:37.400 So Volkanovsky was never going. 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:39.760 To retire, regardless of that result in the rematch with 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:42.760 Diego Lopez, in part because there's plenty of fight left 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:46.320 in the dog right and losing streaks aren't necessarily what 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:49.960 retire elief fighters. So I found it wildly refreshing Kenny 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:54.240 that Adasanya got on the microphone and immediately said, I'm 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:56.440 not going anywhere. We'll table the Ezzy stuff for a second. 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:59.200 Is now joining us, and I don't know if the 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:02.160 fight checks have come. There's more than one check coming 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:06.040 his way. The bona fide midleweight contender representing the United 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:08.400 States of America, Joe Pier. Good to see him, My man, 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:09.600 how are we doing this morning? 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.440 Nice to see I got a swollen face from just 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:13.040 waking up. 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:15.640 My man. Well, we appreciate the time. 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:18.160 And we were saying before he came on, It's crazy 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:20.600 what a difference a year makes, right when you think 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:23.080 about how sick you were almost a year ago to 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:25.839 the day today in city, and now you're on top 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:26.400 of the fucking m. 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:31.800 Yeah, I mean it's It was not a good experience 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:35.360 in Mexico and I'll never. 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:35.800 Go back there. 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:41.480 So there was a time when I suggested that Izzy 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:44.000 was the greatest midleweight of all time, and people came 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:46.679 at me, And certainly it's hard to argue with what 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.360 Anderson Silva had done, But I'm a modern era guy, 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:51.640 and based upon what is he had done in the 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.800 modern era and then getting the belt back a second time, 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:56.880 I didn't think you were wrong to classify him in 0:09:56.960 --> 0:10:01.160 that way. Now you beat the guy, and all of 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:02.880 a sudden, your entire. 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:04.880 World opens up as an elite MMA fighter. 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:08.120 I know you're still probably marinating it and digesting the result. 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:10.240 But what is it like to sort of be on 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:13.080 the other side of what was a hugely challenging fight 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:15.920 camp mentally, physically and otherwise, and now to have the 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:17.960 biggest winning your MMA careers. 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:22.880 You know, John, it's a it's a weird feeling. 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:25.480 Like I was just laughing and I told my girl, 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:27.080 I was like, I beat one of the best in 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:30.240 the world, and I was just laughing because of all 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:33.240 this stuff that I do and I like joke around 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:38.000 and just I care myself. But yeah, man, I the 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:39.840 only way I can describe it is I've been like 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:43.280 this the whole time and in the middle, and I 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:45.200 haven't been riding the high. 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:46.520 I haven't been riding a low. 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:50.360 I truly, truly believe that my faith has done that 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.719 for me, where like nothing's too big or else it 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:56.760 kind of gets you distracted and nothing's you know, too 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:58.920 low that you can't climb back out of with prayer. 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.680 So I I really do feel the change. You know. 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:04.840 I saw everything that everybody was saying, being concerned about 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:06.240 not having the. 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:07.640 Mean streak, this that and the other. 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:10.839 But you know, I got to accomplish one of the 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:14.120 biggest dreams of my life was, which was to fight 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:17.559 the top tier of the top tier and find out 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:19.600 what kind of man I was and when I was 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:21.760 in there, whether people think I was. 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:25.560 Tired or not, I was not. I it just I 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:26.360 kind of settled it in. 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:28.680 That's just kind of my pace when I'm when I 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:31.400 settle in and yeah, I just I went to work 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:32.920 until I finally got him out of there. 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:36.720 Yeah, Joe, you sound more grounded. You look more grounded 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:40.800 even during the fight. What were your expectations before the fighter? 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:42.800 Did you have Eddie and did you think it kind 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:44.680 of went the way it was going to go? 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:48.160 To be honest, I had no idea how it was 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:50.480 going to go, other than I knew I was the 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.440 better grappler. I knew I was the stronger guy. I 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.960 knew I was the harder punching guy. But I knew 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:59.360 is he was the He's the smarter fighter overall. I 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:03.280 would say, you know, he's a chess player, he's he's 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:06.040 a point player. He's uh, if he's got to knock 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:07.640 you out, he's gonna catch you with something clean. 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:09.640 I will say, Emmy, I. 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:12.200 Watched the fight back for the first time, he had 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:16.719 me biting on that question mark kick and I was like, oh, 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:19.240 just during the fight, you know, I knew he was 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:22.719 gonna like I saw it, but I it's kind of 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:23.319 it was kind of. 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:25.240 Like a reaction for me while I was like, Oh, 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:28.959 you're really gonna throw it, but uh but. 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.880 Yeah, no, it was uh it played out. I guess 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:34.280 how I'll say this. I drilled that exact thing. I'm 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:36.120 gonna probably post it at some point where I was 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:38.200 drolling with Nicky Rod. Nicki Rod has been a big 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.600 part of my jiu jitsu along with my ju jitsu 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:44.360 coach Jonathan Webb, jay regular Budo uh smash past jay 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:47.520 I go to my jiu jitsu class. He's like one 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:49.960 of the guys that helps develop the rules for like 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:52.040 the UFC Invitationals and all that stuff. 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:55.239 So I've been around really high level jiu jitsu guys. 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:57.320 And uh, but me and Nicki went over that exact 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:59.960 battakee sequence that you know, we're just gonna keep transfer 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.640 and transfer and transfer. And he's only got two exits, 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:04.959 either turn to your back or turn to your stomach. 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:07.480 Worst one being turned to your stomach because if I 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:09.720 can stick you there. Obviously I was going to get 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:13.280 the ground and bound. But yeah, no, to answer your question, Kenny, 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:15.360 because I have a lot to say, I guess is 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:19.720 it went exactly how I thought it could go. But 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:24.160 I kind of freed myself from a result and imagining 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:26.680 how I could get to finish, Like when they would 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:28.640 come there, I would let them happen in my head. 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:29.280 Like so I could. 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:32.880 You don't envision it, I guess, but I kind of 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:35.600 didn't hold on to one particular way that. 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:36.199 I was going to win. 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:41.520 And Joe, I'm really fascinated and really impressed with this 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:44.439 kind of this spiritual awakening, this religious awakening, if you 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:46.760 want to call it that. And when when did this 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:49.680 is exactly kind of go down? And when did this 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:51.520 change kind of start. 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:52.200 To emerge for you? 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:56.640 February seventh was when I went through my dark time. 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:01.840 And yeah, I probably cried every day in my life, 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:04.880 even up until today. I just feel so relieved and 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:08.160 so thankful and just the habits that I'm installing in 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:08.680 my life. 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:12.120 And yeah, I was I could have been a lost 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:12.760 child man. 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:18.160 So you know, I only say Christian because it identifies 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:22.360 with my beliefs and everything, But I'm a believer first 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:24.720 and foremost. Before you put any entitled to it, I'm 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:28.520 a believer. And it's something you won't ever understand. 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:29.560 Man, I don't know. 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:31.440 I don't know either of you guys like that, but 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:35.960 it's something you won't ever understand until you feel a 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:39.880 presence that you can't see, that you can't hear, but 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:44.240 you can feel. And I just felt called to change, 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:46.720 and I was able to see myself and be disgusted 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:48.600 in all these things and just wanted to be a 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:49.480 better human being. 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:50.960 You know, I don't want to talk. 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.320 There's gonna be guys that don't care about what I 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:55.280 had to say that might mock me for it. I 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:57.520 took the hardest road that I could take with this 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:00.240 change because there's gonna be people that come after to me. 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:02.520 Even before the fight, everybody's saying they don't know if 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:05.560 I'm gonna have this mean streak or whatever. And the 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:07.880 guy's a little psycho and that's what he relied on, 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:12.280 and it's like, just wait and see. I ever got 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.520 his plan was was already written, and I just went 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.880 out there and I accepted that it didn't it can't 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:20.720 let me tell you guys. This, I'm sorry I'm taking 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:22.520 so long answer to this, but it was just such 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:23.640 a special moment for me. 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:27.760 I had absolutely no fear at all. 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.280 And it tells you in the Bible over and over again, 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:32.360 do not be afraid, for I'm with you. Do not 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:35.160 be afraid, Do not be afraid and uh. And then 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.160 one of my favorite verses as well is like when 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:40.400 it says whom shall I send, and I say, here 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:43.600 in mind, send me, and uh, and I just I would. 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:46.560 I've always said that even before my faith, like I'll 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:49.400 always bet on me because I was bored a fighter. 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:51.040 You didn't teach me, you didn't have to teach me 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:52.840 how to fight. I know when I get in there, 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:54.520 I'm gonna bite down and I'm a swing and if 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:55.360 you knock me out. 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:57.520 You knock me out, is what it is like. But 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:01.880 his walkout was sick. Music was sick, the timing of it, 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:04.600 the crowd was sick. They were loud, bro. 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:09.760 It was literally his music was shaking the freaking canvas. 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:13.760 Bro, and my feet and I just was like nothing, 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:15.000 and I was like wow. 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:18.680 So afterwards, that's kind of that's kind of what gets 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:21.520 me like excited, is like I have that kind of 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:23.680 power that I don't care about people's aura. 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:24.640 I didn't care. 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:27.160 I really believed in my mind and I believed it 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:29.200 starting with the Aboose fight, even though I was kind 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:32.960 of a dookie fight. I was like zero and zero brother, like, 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:36.080 I'm you're fighting man of a man of God. 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:38.840 Now, like I got something deep and but. 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:39.480 Man, it's a power. 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:43.080 Thankful. What a beautiful weekend to fight somebody like Israel. 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:46.280 Unbelievable. Man, I was getting chills during your walkout. I 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:48.760 know we talk a lot about Izzy's walkouts. Yours was fantastic. 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:50.240 And by the way, Joe Plifer with us live on 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:53.760 the Anicmploring podcast. Face on the poster now, I know 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.520 you have Izzy and Alex Panada mortalized there behind you, 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:59.400 but we'll have to move the Grant Dawson King Green 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:01.920 pot and put the Auto Sonya v. 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:03.200 Piper poster there. 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:05.800 So it's interesting because I'm a fan first, right, and 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:07.760 you know I'm a fan of yours. I find you 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:10.399 widely entertaining on a microphone. I love the mean streak, 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:12.640 I love the power. A lot of athletes talk about 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:15.239 flipping the switch, and I think for those of us 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:17.520 that know you. We were not put off by your 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:20.840 warm embrace with Izzy, but certainly I think some fans 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:23.240 saw that and we're like, man, you know, how's Joey 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:25.840 kid gonna fucking flip the switch now? So what can 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:29.320 you tell us about just your aggression as a fighter 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.720 and how maybe you do or don't flip the switch 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:34.560 once you actually get in there, especially with somebody you 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:35.760 respect to such an extension. 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:37.560 I think I just changed. 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:40.600 I rewired my brain with my faith to change what 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:43.600 I'm fighting for, and what I'm fighting for is to 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:45.760 give the glory to God first and foremost, because He's 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:47.640 the only one that could reward me with victory. 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:50.399 And the only way that He's going to reward me 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:51.600 with victory. 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:55.240 If that's the possibility, is if I'm walking in the 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:59.040 ways that He commands us to. And you know, I 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:01.640 really felt like I've been doing that. I start every day, 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:04.119 I pray five, six, seven, eight times a day. It 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.760 doesn't matter, however is many, however. 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:10.360 Many is needed. But you know, I just feel like. 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:14.879 God granted me this because he knows I want to 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:17.760 bring people to feel the same exact feeling that I felt. 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:19.640 And it has nothing to do with control. 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:24.040 My belief mine has to do with being a real man, 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:28.119 being someone who loves their wife, who doesn't cheat, who doesn't, 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:31.400 you know, have these addictions and all kinds of stuff, 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:34.160 you know, And what it's done for me is restored 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:37.199 me and made me. And the best thing about my 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:41.240 faith is the forgiveness of it. There's nothing that we've 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:43.560 there's a couple of things that you can't do and 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:49.080 be forgiven for, but but you know, ultimately I'm forgiven 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:52.000 and then that gives me a great peace in my 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:55.960 heart and my soul. And so I'm fighting for the 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:59.040 glory of God. And I'm also fighting for my wife 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:02.879 soon to be hopefully my girlfriend of six plus years 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:04.919 that's been by me unconditionally, you know. 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:06.919 So I just those were the two things that I 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:07.960 was really fighting for. 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:10.960 And the way I envisioned it was, Hey, you want 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:13.119 to get that dream house one day. You wouldn't have 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:14.720 a farm, you would have a bunch of animals, you 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:17.360 wouldn't be self sufficient. You want to have financial security. 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:20.359 It starts right here. And whether you feel like it 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:22.840 or not, whether you're tired or not, whether your hydration 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:24.560 went right or not, You're going to go out there 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:27.080 and until this man puts you out. If that's the case, 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:29.080 you'll face that like a man. But if not, you're 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:31.040 gonna sit there and you're gonna you're gonna be in 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:34.920 this man's face and break him. And that's just kind of. 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:35.199 How I was. 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:37.239 But I wasn't like overemotional about it. 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:40.240 It was just yeah, I really just the only part 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:42.480 that was a little emotional was my walkout song because 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:45.000 that was special to me and my girlfriend. 0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:48.760 And I own the moment. Man. 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:49.240 I loved it. 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:52.280 Yeah, what an incredible weekend for Joe Pifer. We got 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:54.760 a couple more minutes with you. So as you look 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:58.200 forward to the Kamzachi Mayavs of the world and all 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:02.640 the potential big fights that await, I guess inwardly, you 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:05.440 and Dean Thomas and Jonathan Webb and everybody else now 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:08.720 gets to continue to craft this piece of clay. And again, 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:11.560 people don't understand just how well versus you are. Kenny does, 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:13.439 but maybe a lot of people don't understand just how 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:16.760 well rounded a guy you are and how much championship 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:18.760 potential you have. But where is the area in which 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:21.040 you see the biggest opportunity for growth as a mixed 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:21.680 martial arts out. 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:25.800 I think it's just good. I mean, I think it's everywhere. 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:27.760 To be honest, I think my jujitsu game could get 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:30.959 a little bit tighter, especially on the feet. Like I 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:34.480 have this thing where I want to just trade because 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:36.960 I just if somebody's well, that's where easy went wrong 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:38.159 is you can't trade with me. 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:41.240 I mean you can, you can. 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:45.480 Possibly, you can do anything. There's just repercussion. Look, I mean, 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:49.400 look like I consider it easy to go. But he's 0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:51.720 lost to you know, every dog has his day. 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:54.440 I don't think anybody who's ever even left the sport 0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:58.199 undefeated wouldn't have gotten their day either. It's just a 0:20:58.240 --> 0:21:03.000 matter of when you get out. So yeah, I think 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:05.439 I can approve everywhere. I think I I think I should. 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:07.840 I have real, real fast hands, and I think people 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:10.520 have just made that. It's just the only time I 0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:12.359 get big and slow is when I'm sitting there and 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:14.439 I'm just trying to explode your head with one shot. 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:17.240 So I got to be a little bit more disciplined 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:17.480 with that. 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:20.480 The cat kicks hurt, but like and I know I 0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:22.320 gave a reaction because he would hit them good like 0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:24.000 where I was like kind of off balance, but like, 0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:25.240 I wasn't immobilized. 0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:26.760 If you see the fight and you watch it back, 0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:27.760 I still was bouncing. 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:32.160 Definitely hurt, but it wasn't something that was like crippling 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:34.119 me like the jack one did. Because I checked a 0:21:34.119 --> 0:21:36.320 few of them. It's very subtle, but like I checked 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:38.760 the first one, and I know that hurt. It had 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:42.280 to have hurt him because he I don't know, maybe 0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:42.600 it didn't. 0:21:42.640 --> 0:21:44.560 He kept throwing it, but I was like, damn, bro, 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:45.600 stop throwing it. 0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:49.359 Like but uh, yeah, I can improve everywhere, man, I 0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:50.199 can improve everywhere. 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:53.360 I'm I'm a sponge. I think that the coaches love 0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:54.439 that about me, you know. 0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:56.560 I think they also had some question marks in the head, 0:21:56.600 --> 0:21:59.560 if I'm being completely honest. Yeah, until the shakeout, you know, 0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:01.560 and I tell them. They were like, hey, look, this 0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:03.320 is what we're here to do. And I was like, guys, listen, 0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:06.720 like I'm here to rumble. I'm not going nowhere, ye, Like, 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:10.679 I'm fighting for something even, I'm fighting for something deeper 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:13.640 than just some chip on my shoulder and anger about 0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:16.320 something from my past. I'm fighting for love, I'm fighting 0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:18.480 for glory. I'm fighting for all this and I want 0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:20.800 to give it to the world. So I know that 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:23.280 the whole stadium was against me, is what it felt like. 0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:27.440 But yeah, well you turn them around and as you 0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:31.879 continue to pursue and attain peace and happiness. 0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:34.080 It's gott a dovetail beautifully with your fighting career. 0:22:34.119 --> 0:22:36.520 Before we let you go, right, there are a handful 0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:39.000 of top flight middleweights that are unbooked. 0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:41.880 What is your expectation as to what the UFC is. 0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:43.280 Going to do with you? Do you think it's going 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:45.159 to be another main event? Do you think it's going 0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:48.560 to be a guy like Kyle BOHOLLYO. What is your 0:22:48.600 --> 0:22:51.760 best guess as to when we might see you back 0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:53.560 and in what context? 0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:56.439 Hey, I don't know. 0:22:56.960 --> 0:22:59.080 I don't like to play matchmaker after I just did 0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:01.080 something like I did. I know that's what I should 0:23:01.160 --> 0:23:04.200 to be doing, obviously, but I'll just say this. You know, 0:23:04.240 --> 0:23:06.439 I know there's a Philadelphia card coming up in August. 0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:09.560 I would love that. I definitely think I put myself 0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:11.960 in a position after beating one of the greatest of 0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:15.760 the world, to be another main event. But hey, if 0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:17.560 you want to give me three rounds, that favors me. 0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:23.000 So let's let's let's get me headline in the August 0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:26.280 Card of Philly if that's true, or let's let's let's 0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:28.879 hit something up in like September October. You know, I 0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:32.800 have a lot of injuries right now, believe it or not. Uh, 0:23:32.960 --> 0:23:34.640 then I need to get checked. My hand is still 0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:38.040 pretty swollen, so I'm not sure, at least in comparison, 0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:40.480 I'm not pretty sure. I don't know if I broke 0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:43.520 something in it, but and then I gotta get something 0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:45.560 checked out. I just had surgery on this elbow, so 0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:47.239 I don't know if something like I don't know if 0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:48.080 I pulled a muscle in it. 0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:51.280 I was struggling with it for the last two weeks. 0:23:51.600 --> 0:23:55.960 But you know, I would say August, September, October somewhere 0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:57.840 around there. I want to take a little bit of time, guys. 0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:00.760 I want to you know, I want to get better, 0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:02.680 and I don't like taking fights until I feel like 0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:05.520 I've gotten better. One thing I could say I got 0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:08.000 better with with this was obviously. 0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:08.400 My mental approach. 0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:11.359 Like I didn't I was in bedridden with anxiety before 0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:15.040 overthinking things and trying to control the result just kind 0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:17.320 of was in the moment. That's what being in the 0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:21.360 moment is so, but yeah, you know me versus d DP, 0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:24.800 I think that would be cool. He was a great champion. 0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:29.000 I know he lost the belt, but he's a dog. 0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:31.080 He's a tough dude. He likes to bang, he likes 0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:34.000 to brawl. Me versus Kyle. I love Kyle. 0:24:34.440 --> 0:24:35.560 I talked to him a lot. 0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:37.640 It seems like, yeah, I did fighting all the guys 0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:41.280 that I wind up having good relationships with. You know, 0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:43.400 the only way I would fight Brendon Allen is if 0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:45.880 they said it was a like a number one contender, 0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:48.600 like I get a title shot if after we you know, 0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:50.760 we fight, but that one's there. 0:24:53.160 --> 0:24:56.399 I hope that's not the case. But uh yeah, Kyle 0:24:56.480 --> 0:24:57.800 or DDP probably makes sense. 0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:00.560 I think I should wait. I think should wait. I 0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:02.560 think he's on a great wind streak. I think he 0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:07.080 I thought he should have been fighting Hamza, right, so 0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:08.600 I think he should wait. I think he's in a 0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:12.320 great position. But yeah, that's those are my thoughts. 0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:15.520 Well, you maximize the showcase, my man. You put yourself 0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:17.280 in pride position. It is funny because a lot of 0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:20.120 these guys who you mentioned have either put you over 0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:22.400 or have a lot of respect for you, and vice versa, 0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:26.359 whether Shieki Zu Plus or Kyle Bohalio. But hey, man, congratulations, 0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:28.239 you just took out the former un disputed two time 0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:31.280 UFC middleweight champion, and we can't wait to see all 0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:33.720 the work you continue to do on yourself mentally, physically 0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:36.080 and otherwise. And you're all classman for coming on and 0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:38.479 giving us a quarter of an hour today. Joe Pifer, 0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:40.480 You're the fucking man. Enjoy the fruits. We'll talk to 0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:40.959 you simples. 0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:42.160 Thank you. Boys. 0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:50.399 Is Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Zone. Joe Pifer be Joe Pifer. And 0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:53.679 it is interesting because his fan base has built organically. 0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:56.720 It's built methodically, dating to Dana White's Contender series. And 0:25:57.320 --> 0:25:59.600 I always say the best way to build your fan 0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:03.240 base to knock motherfuckers clean out. That's how John O'Malley 0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:05.240 did it right, is to knock people out. That's the 0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:07.080 best way to build your fan base. So even though 0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:10.640 maybe some of the faith is lost on certain people, 0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:14.880 it's certainly not lost on you nor me. He keeps 0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:16.680 knocking people out doing it the right way. 0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:16.840 Man. 0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:17.840 People are paying attention. 0:26:18.440 --> 0:26:21.560 You gotta finish fights, Yeah, no, that's that's the way 0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:25.919 to do it, man, And again, I think that so 0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:28.840 much of this game, so much of being a professional athlete, 0:26:29.160 --> 0:26:33.080 is what kind of mental attitude you bring to it. 0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:35.040 It affects the way you train, it affects the way 0:26:35.080 --> 0:26:38.240 you perform under stress, under pressure, and I think this 0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:41.320 new Joe Pifer is a major major problem. He also 0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:44.159 he always had the physicality, he always had the talent, 0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:48.040 but now with this other element, I think he really 0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:49.720 is a guy that that could win the belt. 0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:52.840 I do think he's that good. And you know, I thought, 0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:55.120 I thought it was a really complete performance from him. 0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:57.200 Part of my job that I take seriously. 0:26:57.240 --> 0:26:59.560 I guess it's not part of my job, but oftentimes 0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:02.639 after fighter loses a fight, I will slide into their 0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:05.520 DMS and try to provide some sort of encouragement. Now 0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:08.800 I'm not saying this to sort of too my own 0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:11.200 horn and have people be like, oh man, that's really thoughtful. 0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:13.280 But as I was getting ready to book Joe Pifer 0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:15.520 on the show today, I went back into our Instagram 0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:19.320 messages because that's how I contact him. And you know, 0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:21.119 it's interesting for me to read what I wrote to 0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:23.560 him after he lost to jack Er Manson or after 0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:26.600 he got sick in Mexico City, and I happen to 0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:29.720 get sick as well. And you know, he's had some 0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:33.280 really dark moments and now he has a lot of 0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:37.560 light moments. And if you do subscribe to the theory 0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:39.959 that good things happen to good people, that's what's happening 0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:41.280 to Joe Pifer right now. 0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:44.720 I think that, you know, for someone who had a 0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:47.240 tough upbringing and who has dealt with a lot of 0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:51.680 adversity and have had a lot of dark times, sometimes 0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:52.639 it takes one person. 0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:53.640 Sometimes it takes. 0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:57.160 Multiple people to say I believe in you. You could 0:27:57.200 --> 0:28:00.320 be the best at this or whatever it is. Having 0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:04.560 a good core group of people and having people you respect, 0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:07.520 like like John Annix, Sending a kind message or a 0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:10.760 positive message can do wonders for people. And I'm not 0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:12.920 saying that that's the only reason, right, I mean, yeah, 0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:15.120 there's a lot of people contributing to that, but that 0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:19.080 does make a huge difference, man. And sometimes you know, 0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:21.280 you need other people to believe in you more than 0:28:21.280 --> 0:28:22.360 you believe in yourself. 0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:25.440 Yeah, well, put thanks everybody joining us live here on 0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:27.960 the anicon Florian podcast. Plattum Mike Perry scheduled to join 0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:29.480 us here coming up at the bottom of the hour, 0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:32.960 to be followed by Ray Longo. So before we get 0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:36.080 back to Israel, lot of Sonya. I hadn't heard about 0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:38.920 the Philadelphia card. Oftentimes I'm the last man to find out. 0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:40.680 I don't know if it's a numbered event or it's 0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:43.920 a fight night, But you gotta think that Joe Pifer 0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:47.280 is going to factor prominently in that equation and seems 0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:49.320 like maybe Kyle Bohoalio makes some sense. 0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:52.080 Kidding, Oh, it's a great fight. I hope the timing 0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:54.400 works out for him. You know, he obviously divulged that 0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:56.800 he does have some injuries he needs to heal up, 0:28:56.880 --> 0:29:00.320 but I hope the timing works out. I think that 0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:03.000 would be a fantastic fight between two guys that are 0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:04.800 at the top of their game right now that are 0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:08.160 kind of peeking and yeah. 0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:09.760 So much talent on both sides. 0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:14.080 But you know, with this new kind of mindset and 0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:16.920 him having the ability to fight in his hometown, what 0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:18.680 an opportunity. 0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:20.640 That would be meant And you gotta think he will 0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:24.000 be there May ninth, in Newark, New Jersey, not far 0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:26.920 from where he lives. Datchimaia makes the first defense of 0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:31.760 his title against Sean Strickland. So I felt pretty convicted 0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:34.080 that Israel out of Sonia win or lose, was not 0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:37.360 going to retire. And certainly I am a little bit 0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:42.240 maybe more on the inside than some of the speculists 0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:46.600 that are out there, right, But you can lose four 0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:50.240 fights and still not be ready to retire. And even 0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:52.920 though somebody within a stude mind like Kenny Florian would 0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:55.440 suggest to you today that maybe out of Sonya isn't 0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:58.320 quite as fast or the footwork isn't necessarily there the 0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:00.840 way it was in his prime, it doesn't mean on 0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:03.040 any given Saturday night he can't compete with the top 0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:07.520 five to seven middleweights in the world. So he's not 0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:11.400 just a prize fighter. He certainly has realized financial freedom. 0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:14.480 He's continuing for the love of the game, the love 0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:18.040 of the sport, and for legacy. I commend him on that, 0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:21.120 and I think there's a great chance that Israeldo Sonia 0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:24.440 wins another UFC fight against high level competition before all 0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:25.240 is said than done. 0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:28.120 Your thoughts on that, yeah, I think everyone fights for 0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:30.960 different reasons, and you have. 0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:33.160 To know what that is very very clearly. 0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:38.240 I think that is he has done what very few 0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:42.640 fighters will ever achieve. And I think that if he 0:30:42.720 --> 0:30:46.240 still has a passion for this game, then yeah, he 0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:50.280 can stay in it. And for me, I think that 0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:52.080 he has slowed down a little bit. But he has 0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:55.040 to be fully aware of that. I think and say, 0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:57.640 what do I need to do to change maybe my 0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:02.760 approach in fight, maybe in camp uh to accommodate maybe 0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:07.080 these these adjustments and you know, find that way. It 0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:10.520 is hard, though, when you're used to fighting a certain 0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:14.560 way to just change that overnight. And I think there 0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:18.200 was perhaps a mental lapse during this fight, or maybe 0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:20.320 he was hurt and maybe not really in it at 0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:22.920 the time. And you have to give credit a whole 0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:24.880 lot of credit to Joe Pifer for fighting the way 0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:25.400 that he did. 0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:29.200 But you know, this is a critical time though, make 0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:30.160 no mistake about it. 0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:33.200 You know four five fights in a low and five 0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:36.720 losses in a row is is no joke. And you know, 0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:40.400 he has to find out very clearly what he's fighting for, because, 0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:42.760 as he said, he does not need to keep doing this. 0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:44.360 He does have financial freedom. 0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:47.560 And for me, you know, I want to remember, is 0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:50.880 he as that guy who was at his peak and right? 0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:54.320 You know, so, yeah, I hope that whatever he does, 0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:56.880 he makes the right choice and and uh, you know, 0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:58.320 find that piece right. 0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:00.760 You don't want twenty four and two to become twenty 0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:03.320 five eight when it comes to the MMA record all 0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:05.600 right now with us on the guest line. One of 0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:08.280 the biggest names in all of combat sports man and 0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:10.680 I always thought he could be this, one of the 0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:15.120 biggest names in all of combat sports, the king of violence, 0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:19.280 fifteen times UFC veteran, not White, Gold Platinum, Mike Perry 0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:21.040 rocking the Young La, loud and proud. 0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:22.400 It's good to see a champ. How we feel? 0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:26.800 Don Anni don the goat commentator, Go what up? Kenny? 0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:27.320 What up? 0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:27.640 What's up? 0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:32.800 I'm chilling, So I don't even know where to begin 0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:33.240 with you. 0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:35.920 You got a major MMA contest coming up with NATEDZ 0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:37.480 coming up May sixteenth on Netflix. 0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:38.760 We're very excited about that. 0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:42.240 But in a bare knuckle setting, man like, if you 0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:47.479 were trying to with AI create somebody who could beat you, 0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:52.640 man Like, how is anybody gonna beat you in that format? 0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:54.560 No, It's gonna be tough. 0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:54.800 Uh. 0:32:55.440 --> 0:33:01.800 You know, I'm coming back with my the gains that 0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:05.520 I have in bare knuckle boxing, and you know, my 0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:08.080 job is to go into the ring and let those 0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:16.080 hands go, throw, throw my punches, getting gritty, uh close adults, 0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:21.360 and you know, come out on top of those gritty matchups. Obviously, 0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:25.440 Nate Diaz is a crafty character and and he uses 0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:30.440 his mind and chooses, you know, who's gonna who's gonna 0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:33.960 have the ring generalship, who's gonna decide when the fight 0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:36.320 is happening and when it's not happening, or we're just 0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:39.080 going in the middle and we're just gonna throw. So 0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:43.560 there's a lot of excitement and in the ideas of 0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:48.280 this matchup that we could be compared to the UFC 0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:53.160 White House Card. Everyone is super excited about platinam Mike 0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:57.200 Perry versus Nate Diaz, and I am as well. So 0:33:57.760 --> 0:34:00.480 you know, I've been I've been filing really good that 0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:05.080 it's finally my time. MMA fighters throughout history have gone 0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:09.560 across platforms. That's what mixed martial arts is about. We 0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:15.400 have the skills in more than one genre and putting 0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:17.799 it all back together. I get to come back with 0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:20.439 some of the vicious talents that I've always had. 0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:24.759 It's a crazy fight, man, and just based on both 0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:26.440 of the way that both of the ways that you 0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:29.799 guys fight. I don't see it. I don't see it, 0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:31.960 you know, being boring at all. But you know, does 0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:35.440 it change the way that you've approached training? Now, obviously 0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:37.520 this is your first mixed martial arts fight in a 0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:40.360 little while. I'm not sure he's gonna be looking to 0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:42.480 take you down. I imagine it's probably gonna be you 0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:45.360 guys trading on the feet. But does it change a 0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:48.040 lot of the way how you approach this one compared 0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:49.080 to the last couple of years. 0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:56.880 No, I have to train smart and smooth and uh, 0:34:56.920 --> 0:35:01.880 you know, get those moments of grit where me and 0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:05.319 my training partners are really going at each other and 0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:09.160 in a professional manner. You know, you have the tough rounds. 0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:14.000 And now it's five times five. I'm fighting a championship 0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:18.160 level fight as far as five rounds of five minutes 0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:20.520 each twenty five minutes. Like, I'm really excited about that. 0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:24.560 I've been getting my sparring up to the five or 0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:28.160 six rounds or more, and you know, I'm feeling like 0:35:28.400 --> 0:35:32.520 it's it's become time in my life. I've proven myself 0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:35.880 again and again in combat sports. I've taken over a 0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:41.880 whole nother, you know movement with the bare knuckle fighting championships, 0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:45.200 and I've kind of gotten to become the face of that, 0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:47.319 and that's what I have to go in this fight 0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:50.080 and do. And you know, my wife's she's one of 0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:52.000 my coaches. She's in the corner and she's like, you 0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:54.800 guys are throwing hands. His last fight was a boxing match, 0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:58.440 this and that. Yes, I'm gonna stay. 0:35:59.200 --> 0:35:59.440 You know. 0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:01.440 I like some of the clints. I like some of 0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:03.759 the close ups. I think he's gonna grab me and 0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:07.319 we're gonna fight in the clinch. I don't see him 0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:11.480 necessarily shooting a takedown unless I'm devastating him with the hands. 0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:14.799 And uh, you know, I gotta watch out for guillotines, 0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:19.320 arm drags, things like that of that nature. But the 0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:23.280 training remains the same. I just put in the work 0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:26.960 and go get to go have fun. May sixteen. 0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:29.600 I know you've talked a lot about Lati and the 0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:32.279 spousal support that you have had. You know, she was 0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:35.319 with you before you had gotten to whatever place of 0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:38.759 financial freedom you are at right now. So have you 0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:41.520 guys had sort of a moment to sort of enjoy 0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:45.120 the fruits that appreciate it, either in solitude the two 0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:46.320 of you or otherwise. 0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:50.799 You know, little little moments here and there. You know, 0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:54.960 she definitely needs more, uh and there there's gonna you know, 0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:58.080 I love I love how those things work out. And 0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:02.240 you know with when it comes to business, and business 0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:07.000 has to respect my life status and relationship and things 0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:09.560 like that. And we we try to mold those things 0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:11.520 together if we can. If I have a work trip, 0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:16.000 we'll bring the fam and make make something out of it. 0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:18.080 There. 0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:20.400 There hasn't been as much time as we would like 0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:24.360 to really sit back and kick your feet up. We 0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:27.839 got work to do. We're we're on a mission. I'm 0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:31.359 on a mission to really get that financial freedom so 0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:34.640 that we can do this when we're you know, I'll 0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:38.279 be forty before her. So yeah, you know, if we're 0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:40.440 forty and I can kick my feet up on the 0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:45.360 beach and have those my ties, Yeah, yeah, I'm finally ready. 0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:49.200 So my son is seven. How old is Ocean right now? 0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:51.440 Ocean's five. Now he's catching up. 0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:56.080 He's starting to i'd imagine understand who the fuck his 0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:57.000 father really? 0:37:57.280 --> 0:37:57.480 Right? 0:37:57.600 --> 0:38:01.520 Like, I don't know, that's a tough one. You know, 0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:03.919 we ask him questions all the time. Do you want 0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:06.040 to box? Do you want to fight? You know, I've 0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:08.120 seen comments people like he's in the mix. 0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:09.480 I'm like, he could be. 0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:12.279 If there's a good amount of money in it for him. 0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:16.480 One day, I'm sure he'll be after it, but for now, 0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:21.680 I don't think training is super super necessary. Like you know, 0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:25.040 David ben Vitez's son will probably beat up my son 0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:29.919 right now, and they're they're definitely the same, like exact age. Yeah, 0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:32.440 but that's okay because they're not going to get paid 0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:38.000 for that fight right now. When oceans seventeen eighteen and 0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:41.680 he has the emotions of his father, he will cry 0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:45.160 and claw some kids eyes out if he has to. 0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:49.320 I think it's inside of him. So, you know, hopefully 0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:52.200 I make enough money and then my kid can just 0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:53.399 be a computer whiz. 0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:55.920 Yeah, there you go, Platin Mike Perry with us live 0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:59.200 on the Anic Imploring Podcast. So you're still a young man. 0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:01.759 You were born in nineteen ninety one. You had a 0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:04.920 pretty extensive amateur career as an MMA fighter, if I'm 0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:09.439 not mistaken, but you're certainly rounding into form. I mean, 0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:13.680 i'd imagine you don't see the end as anywhere near 0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:16.239 in sight. You got all these different promotions looking for 0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:19.560 a PC like how long can you continue to realize 0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:21.520 success at the highest level of combat? 0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:25.759 Ah Man, I was just talking to Yo. Wel you 0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:29.440 know he goes over to Russia, fights for gob in 0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:34.440 bare knuckle fighting, you know, in Russia under their rules 0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:40.600 against their guys, and he gets He demands respect with 0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:46.600 his discipline and his knowledge at his age, and you 0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:48.759 know you can just physically see it when you look 0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:52.160 at him. He's working. He's putting in the work to 0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:54.719 keep his body where it's at and always be able 0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:57.920 to perform. You know, that's a goal to be forty 0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:02.800 eight and look like that still just kicking my body 0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:06.359 just through the roof, you know what I'm saying. So 0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:10.520 that's the goal. I just stay. It's a lifestyle as 0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:16.160 a martial artist, you know, to be the WU shoe master, 0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:20.920 Sin say when you're fifty and just like you know, 0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:26.000 you got these disciples around you that need the information 0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:28.040 that you can teach them. Like I said, we could 0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:32.480 teach the next genre generation of UFC fighters how to 0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:33.240 do their job. 0:40:33.520 --> 0:40:34.080 Yeah. 0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:37.640 So you got Dirty Boxing April tenth in Miami, and 0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:39.840 then it's back to Central Florida for a few weeks, 0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:42.040 and then I guess to be into a dome and 0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:44.520 soakl for Nate Diz live on this floor. 0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:45.120 Is that right? 0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:46.279 Yeah? 0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:48.200 Yeah, big man. 0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:50.480 Well, I look forward to seeing you at Dirty Boxing 0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:52.920 here shortly. I'm gonna come say hello on Friday night. 0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:56.879 I know you'll be making the rounds. And then May sixteenth, right, 0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:01.120 Nate Diez under the lights into a dome that is 0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:04.640 an absolutely amazing venue. If I were to say, given 0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:08.040 your promotional value in combat sports right now, will you 0:41:08.160 --> 0:41:10.520 ever be back in the octagon, would you say never? 0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:13.880 Say never? Or do you think that ship is sid I. 0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:17.440 Would definitely say never, say never. You know what I'm saying. 0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:21.000 Oh I'm seeing things, but I want to talk too soon. 0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:23.320 You know, I got to focus on the task in hand. 0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:29.520 I think I just demolished this and I do my best. 0:41:29.560 --> 0:41:32.319 You see the best Platinum Perry back in the ring, 0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:35.759 back in the octagon or sorry it's a hexagon. We'll 0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:39.759 try to get a hexagon here for MVP. Gonna see 0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:42.239 how all that works out. They do big promotion. They 0:41:42.719 --> 0:41:46.759 put on a heck of a show, excited to put 0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:50.600 on for the fans and get back in MMA and 0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:54.080 showcase how you know what I could do when I 0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:54.600 go back. 0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:58.160 Well, my man, I just got to say deep congratulations 0:41:58.200 --> 0:41:59.839 on all your success, and I think you can tell 0:41:59.840 --> 0:42:01.680 me and we're just super happy for you. 0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:01.960 Man. 0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:03.839 You deserve it all, you put in all the work, 0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:05.800 and uh we wish all the best of course with 0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:08.520 DBX April tenth and then May sixteenth, brother will be watching. 0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:11.640 Thank you so much, man. It's great to see you guys, 0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:16.440 and I look forward to returning to MMA. So enjoyed 0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:16.799 the show. 0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:22.560 My man Platinum Mike Perry Live on Netflix May sixteenth 0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:26.680 against fellow combat sports legend Nate Diez, and it is 0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:28.760 going to be interesting to see how all of that goes. 0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:29.439 Bro. 0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:32.320 I just don't know who would ever beat him. 0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:36.040 With with no padding on the knuckles right in a 0:42:36.080 --> 0:42:37.240 bare knuckle setting. 0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:37.480 Bro. 0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:40.160 When you look at some of the guys on his resume, 0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:43.560 whether it's Luke Rockholdt or Michael venim Page or Jeremy 0:42:43.600 --> 0:42:46.960 Stevens or Eddie Alvarez, a lot of different stylistic challenges. 0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:51.839 And when you see Perry's mits, brothers like dude, best 0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:52.120 of luck. 0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:54.880 Find I somebody to beat him in those rules Platinum. 0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:58.240 Mike Perry was built for that. Like the dude's straight 0:42:58.280 --> 0:42:59.000 out of a movie. 0:42:59.040 --> 0:42:59.279 Man. 0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:03.120 He's an absolute savage, So it's great to see him 0:43:03.160 --> 0:43:07.040 get this huge opportunity against a massive legend in Nate Diez, 0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:09.040 and that fight is going to be bananas. 0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:12.320 He is about a two to one favorite right now 0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:17.040 against Nate Diez come May sixteenth, and yes, Dirty Boxing 0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:20.600 in Miami April tenth is on the eve of UFC 0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:23.000 three twenty seven. My twin brother Jason Anik is part 0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:24.960 of the broadcast team for DBX, so we will be 0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:28.239 there live to show our support. If Jay can get 0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:31.000 me a ticket, of course, I will be there on 0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:37.000 the eve of UFC three twenty seven. So we sort 0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:40.520 of keep getting away from this Israel Attasannya stuff. And 0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:42.400 I'm not gonna sit here and go through the middleway 0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:45.719 top ten and ask you, hey, how do you think 0:43:45.760 --> 0:43:47.799 he'd fare in a rematch with du plus see? How 0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:50.160 do you think he'd do against Kyle Boholyyo? You know, 0:43:50.440 --> 0:43:53.879 would the Brendan Allen fight be competitive? But I think 0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:56.080 our thesis statement on both sides is that as long 0:43:56.120 --> 0:44:00.839 as there's desire there's still enough sk you just don't 0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:03.279 want to see him, you know, maybe not on like 0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:06.520 an Anderson Silva go from you know, thirty and two 0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:07.960 to thirty and eleven. 0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:08.879 Yeah. 0:44:08.920 --> 0:44:10.799 Well, you know what happens in the fight game, right 0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:14.879 is you get these stars, and those stars once they 0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:19.760 kind of start dropping in perhaps their performance or consistency, 0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:23.799 they end up becoming, you know, a jumping off point 0:44:23.840 --> 0:44:25.800 for a lot of the fighters who are up and coming, 0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:28.479 And as a fighter, you then have to kind of say, 0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:31.279 is this the role that I want to be in 0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:35.040 as a fighter, Right, So if you're still enjoying it, 0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:37.160 and you're still getting up for your fights, and you're 0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:41.000 preparing really well and you're healthy, then absolutely I think 0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:43.319 you should continue doing that. And like you said, John, 0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:45.600 I do think his skills that are a high enough 0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:47.400 level where he is elite. 0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:49.600 So yeah, all. 0:44:49.520 --> 0:44:52.040 Right, just getting going live Anak and Florian podcast. We've 0:44:52.040 --> 0:44:56.279 been guessed heavy as such, we haven't even gotten into 0:44:56.840 --> 0:44:59.160 one of the greatest finishes in UFC history and all 0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:02.160 that encompass just the six uftually live event in modern 0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:05.439 history to feature six finishes on the main card. One 0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:10.239 man who I trust was watching Raymond Peter Longo, Let's 0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:11.640 get to him. 0:45:11.680 --> 0:45:16.200 It's now time for the Ray Long Minute. 0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:17.319 That's what I watch, The. 0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:26.680 Ray Long Minute, the John Nick and Kenny Florian podcast. 0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:32.640 No, hey, let me tell you that that was the 0:45:32.760 --> 0:45:35.239 card No More bitch and now ha. 0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:40.640 So Kenny Florian is a quality over quantity guy in 0:45:40.719 --> 0:45:43.000 most aspects of his life. Right, doesn't send a lot 0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:46.480 of text messages, but he couldn't stop texting when Alexa 0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:49.680 Grosso did that. Right, they call it a club and sub, 0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:53.640 but you don't always see it, not like that like. 0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:56.120 That, man, I mean, let me tell you, that's the 0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:58.600 closest death in the octagon. 0:45:58.719 --> 0:45:59.759 I think we've. 0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:05.080 That was Come on, why don't even know I can't 0:46:05.080 --> 0:46:07.919 even process that that girl was that. It's just it's 0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:10.840 not even like it's the way she jumped on the 0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:14.480 she nobody jumps on a rear naked quicker than that girl. 0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:16.680 I called the double whammy. 0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:19.279 Right, she knocked her out, uh like, basically put her 0:46:19.360 --> 0:46:22.759 unconscious and then jumped on a sub. Now, I did 0:46:22.800 --> 0:46:26.240 that with Clay Guita, but it was not as violent, 0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:28.080 it was not as dramatic, it was not. 0:46:28.080 --> 0:46:30.239 As quick as how she did it. It was just 0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:32.440 so fluid. 0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:37.319 The way she did it was it was bad, like 0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:42.279 she looked like an absolute gangster. And then the why 0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:44.319 it was so dramatic after it too. It was just 0:46:44.360 --> 0:46:47.160 like Macy Barber was just in a completely different dimension. 0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:47.319 Man. 0:46:47.400 --> 0:46:49.920 She went to the shadow realm and she was staring 0:46:50.360 --> 0:46:52.680 into another dimension at that and she could not get 0:46:52.760 --> 0:46:53.319 up for a. 0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:54.600 Very very long time. 0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:57.759 And you know, Grosso just kind of calmly got up, 0:46:57.880 --> 0:46:59.879 was like, yeah, sorry, man, it was umble. 0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:02.680 Look, Grosso did the right thing. 0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:04.799 I think the ref did as good a job as 0:47:04.840 --> 0:47:05.960 he could if he got in there a. 0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:09.040 Quick It was fast. It was really quick. 0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:13.919 Man, that was And to be unconscious and have the 0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:17.560 blood or choked out to you, dude, that can't be good. 0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:19.359 That cannot be good. 0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:21.600 Ray Longo not a doctor, but he does play one 0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:26.680 here on the But no, you're not wrong. 0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:27.000 I know. 0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:28.840 I gotta tell you. I don't even think a doctor 0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:30.759 could tell you what was going. 0:47:31.960 --> 0:47:32.640 Doctor was just. 0:47:32.600 --> 0:47:33.319 Staring at her. 0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:38.920 So Mike Beltron deserves a lot of credit. And this 0:47:39.040 --> 0:47:42.400 was I think he just refereeing in a while because 0:47:42.440 --> 0:47:44.600 he had about with diverticulatis and I think he had 0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:48.520 the surgery or whatever it was. But yes, I mean, 0:47:48.600 --> 0:47:52.680 thank goodness Beltron was all over it because there are 0:47:52.840 --> 0:47:56.000 plenty of referees that would have been out of position 0:47:56.239 --> 0:48:00.160 or less instinctive, and that could have spelled even a 0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:01.160 worse fate for Macy. 0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:02.959 Yeah, oh no, he got in there as quick. 0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:05.359 I don't think he could have did anything different, to 0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:09.120 be honest with you, it's how fast it was. And wow, 0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:12.279 that was That's some of the scariest shit I've ever seen. 0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:15.680 I've seen I've seen after the AFT myth with people 0:48:15.680 --> 0:48:17.719 are just laying on the floor and they still think 0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:20.640 they fight and they get but that the way that 0:48:20.719 --> 0:48:23.680 went down was was that was pretty brutal. That was brutal. 0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:26.520 And I hope Macy Bob is all right, man, what 0:48:26.600 --> 0:48:27.280 a you know. 0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:31.160 She seems to be handling things really well. She's been good, 0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:35.040 very public on social media, beco very good. Oftentimes athletes 0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:40.520 sort of cloak up, and I think actually just facing 0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:42.799 forward is probably gonna be therapeutic for her. But man, 0:48:42.800 --> 0:48:45.200 Alexa Grossel, when you think about how she rested the 0:48:45.200 --> 0:48:48.680 belts away from Valentina Chevchenko whose face was half discolored, 0:48:48.840 --> 0:48:51.400 and Kenny, now this finished that Dana White call one 0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:52.840 of the greatest in UFC history. 0:48:53.440 --> 0:48:54.800 I mean, she's. 0:48:54.600 --> 0:48:58.200 Gonna it's amazing how much And again she's realized the 0:48:58.200 --> 0:49:00.840 world title, she's defended it, she's made a lot of money. 0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:03.279 But bro, I mean, this is going to take it right. 0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:05.600 She gets the bonus right, She's going to get all 0:49:05.640 --> 0:49:10.560 this year end hardware for this, right, like Alexa Grosso, 0:49:10.600 --> 0:49:12.640 all of a sudden everything has opened up for again. 0:49:13.080 --> 0:49:13.319 Yep. 0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:16.360 I mean I say this so many times, but again, 0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:19.720 one fight can change your whole trajectory of your career. 0:49:20.120 --> 0:49:21.480 And that's how you come back. 0:49:21.600 --> 0:49:23.560 You know, that's how you come back and you remind 0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:25.960 everybody how badass you actually are. 0:49:26.040 --> 0:49:29.239 And you know, these are the dangerous fights for people. 0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:31.880 Like a Macy Barbara, when you're going against a former 0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:35.000 champion or an elite fighter and they're kind of on 0:49:35.040 --> 0:49:37.520 a little bit of a downstreak and you're like, I 0:49:37.560 --> 0:49:39.520 think I got them. This is maybe where they're their 0:49:39.560 --> 0:49:42.279 lowest point. This is when they're most vulnerable, and you 0:49:42.440 --> 0:49:46.000 forget now they're still there, They're still in it. And 0:49:46.080 --> 0:49:48.920 I had a feeling and what a performance in Grasso. 0:49:49.160 --> 0:49:49.560 I think it. 0:49:49.560 --> 0:49:54.759 Shows character, It shows development, and she's going to be 0:49:54.800 --> 0:49:56.479 a problem moving forward. Man, she's still here. 0:49:57.360 --> 0:50:00.640 Yeah up boxing A stand up was going on for 0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:04.560 that fight. Uh yeah, I mean it almost looks I 0:50:04.560 --> 0:50:07.399 know we're probably gonna talk about ad ASNJA too, but look, 0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:09.279 I like that is he that guy went in there 0:50:09.320 --> 0:50:09.720 to fight. 0:50:09.920 --> 0:50:13.520 I think I think he I give that guy a. 0:50:13.480 --> 0:50:15.000 Lot of credit, you know what I mean. I think 0:50:15.000 --> 0:50:17.440 he's a he's a good dude and he understands fighting. 0:50:17.520 --> 0:50:20.440 But uh man, that is he was the you know, 0:50:20.480 --> 0:50:22.719 it's a teddy one time said what a guy does 0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:24.680 at the end is always what he always wanted to 0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:25.640 do at the beginning. 0:50:26.040 --> 0:50:26.840 It wasn't really. 0:50:26.640 --> 0:50:29.239 Applying to this, but I think that's who is he 0:50:29.280 --> 0:50:31.520 always wanted to be. But you know, as you're going up, 0:50:31.840 --> 0:50:34.200 sometimes you gotta fight safe. You need that win to 0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:36.799 get to the next you know. I think this is 0:50:36.920 --> 0:50:39.560 the izzy that and he was doing great. You know, 0:50:39.640 --> 0:50:42.400 he took all those shots. I thought he was. He 0:50:42.480 --> 0:50:43.239 was looking good. 0:50:43.840 --> 0:50:47.879 Just you know, the Achilles seal was was the wrestling ray. 0:50:47.960 --> 0:50:50.040 I'm so glad that you just said that and sort 0:50:50.080 --> 0:50:53.239 of talked us into that talking point because Kenny and 0:50:53.280 --> 0:50:55.600 you and is he have a personal relationship. He's not 0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:59.680 emotionally attached to the losses and the wins. Yeah, and 0:50:59.800 --> 0:51:02.440 that it's absolutely critical, and certainly it applies to a 0:51:02.440 --> 0:51:05.400 lot of kickboxers who maybe experienced losses far more often 0:51:05.440 --> 0:51:08.319 than your average MMA fighter. But I think Ray's right. 0:51:08.600 --> 0:51:12.680 He was roundly criticized for that Jared cannoneer win at 0:51:12.800 --> 0:51:15.680 UFC two seventy six. I believe it was in twenty 0:51:15.719 --> 0:51:19.279 twenty two, and he's mostly lost fights since then. And 0:51:19.320 --> 0:51:21.480 the only man that he's knocked out since then and 0:51:21.520 --> 0:51:25.399 not beaten on points of course was Alex Padata, right. 0:51:25.640 --> 0:51:27.960 But yeah, I do believe in a lot of respects 0:51:28.400 --> 0:51:31.600 now that you know, there's a freedom with which he 0:51:31.680 --> 0:51:34.479 is fighting and it doesn't necessarily produce a win. But yeah, 0:51:34.520 --> 0:51:36.040 I really can lean into that ring. 0:51:36.320 --> 0:51:38.600 I mean, that's what I believe, and I like, again, 0:51:38.640 --> 0:51:40.719 hats off to him. I think I think we even 0:51:40.719 --> 0:51:42.920 saw that with GSP at the end of his career, 0:51:43.680 --> 0:51:45.719 and I know I think I had spoken to him 0:51:45.719 --> 0:51:48.600 about that two years ago, but you know, when GSP 0:51:48.840 --> 0:51:52.000 really started to open up, it is freedom, you know, 0:51:52.040 --> 0:51:54.920 it's not about winning a loser, it's about expressing yourself. 0:51:54.960 --> 0:51:57.319 And I think George did it at the end. He 0:51:57.360 --> 0:51:59.760 was in some wars at the end, if you remember 0:52:00.120 --> 0:52:02.240 he was he was he was playing down and fighting 0:52:02.280 --> 0:52:05.000 And I think, you know, once you get that monkey 0:52:05.080 --> 0:52:07.360 off your back and you've accomplished everything, you're in the 0:52:07.440 --> 0:52:10.520 history books forever is you'll go down as one of 0:52:10.520 --> 0:52:14.160 the greatest, if not the greatest middleweight in the world 0:52:14.239 --> 0:52:18.319 besides Widman. But uh, but uh, you know what I mean, 0:52:18.360 --> 0:52:20.360 like he's got nothing to prove. 0:52:21.160 --> 0:52:23.279 I tell you, I like that is he that? To me? John? 0:52:23.320 --> 0:52:25.880 You said the word freedom. That was freedom to me. 0:52:25.960 --> 0:52:29.120 He went in there, had a good time and you know, 0:52:29.800 --> 0:52:30.480 came up short. 0:52:30.560 --> 0:52:33.239 But yeah, but here's who I see it. He was 0:52:33.280 --> 0:52:34.000 winning the fight. 0:52:34.120 --> 0:52:38.480 And then you know that freedom made him fight in 0:52:38.520 --> 0:52:40.839 a style that I don't think is actually his where 0:52:40.880 --> 0:52:43.359 he fights at his best. And he took a lot 0:52:43.400 --> 0:52:45.920 of damage along the way. He took some huge shots 0:52:45.960 --> 0:52:48.360 from a guy that you don't want to trade with. 0:52:48.960 --> 0:52:51.960 And you know, again, just like Joe said, you can 0:52:52.160 --> 0:52:54.440 make any decision out there as a fighter, there's just 0:52:54.480 --> 0:52:57.880 gonna be repercussions for it. And I think that that 0:52:58.080 --> 0:52:59.520 was not the way that he was going to win 0:52:59.520 --> 0:53:01.319 that fight. If he did win that fight, I think 0:53:01.360 --> 0:53:03.120 he would have been throwing the dice. He did throw 0:53:03.160 --> 0:53:05.000 the dice, he got hurt. I don't think he was 0:53:05.080 --> 0:53:08.160 totally with it. You know, Piper got an easy takedown 0:53:08.160 --> 0:53:10.680 after that, took full advantage. And yes, that's where he 0:53:11.000 --> 0:53:12.840 you know, really lost the fight was on the ground. 0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:16.279 But you know, he was doing a great job of 0:53:16.360 --> 0:53:19.040 using variety and keeping Piper on the outside. And when 0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:22.160 he decided to be entertaining and trade, that's where he 0:53:22.239 --> 0:53:23.400 let Piper right back. 0:53:23.239 --> 0:53:24.319 In the fight, right right. 0:53:24.400 --> 0:53:26.839 But but again, John, he could have easily did a 0:53:26.920 --> 0:53:30.080 Yoel Romero with this calf kick and move move move, 0:53:30.400 --> 0:53:33.359 caf kick, jam move. The guy wouldn't have gotten near him. 0:53:33.400 --> 0:53:38.279 I don't think did bet. But again and again it's look, 0:53:38.320 --> 0:53:40.200 I could be completely wrong in this, but that's what 0:53:40.280 --> 0:53:43.000 I saw. I saw a guy that wanted to put 0:53:43.000 --> 0:53:46.480 on a show at any cost. Yeah, and uh, like again, 0:53:46.520 --> 0:53:48.520 I don't think he would have did this if it 0:53:48.560 --> 0:53:51.719 was five years ago, but uh, you know, it is 0:53:51.760 --> 0:53:52.160 what it is. 0:53:52.360 --> 0:53:54.080 I think you both make a lot of good points. 0:53:54.320 --> 0:53:54.839 He is. 0:53:56.680 --> 0:54:02.280 Free of championship pressure and perhaps liberating and stylistically results 0:54:02.280 --> 0:54:04.960 in some changes, but given the landscape in the middleweight 0:54:05.000 --> 0:54:07.560 division right now, even if he had knocked Joe Pifer 0:54:07.640 --> 0:54:10.560 clean out with a question mark kick in round one, Yeah, 0:54:10.719 --> 0:54:12.960 he's not getting ahead of Sean Strickland May ninth. He's 0:54:13.200 --> 0:54:16.319 plausibly not getting ahead of Nossordini Mavov, who beat him 0:54:16.320 --> 0:54:18.480 head to head. And you know that says nothing of 0:54:18.520 --> 0:54:21.320 some of the other guys like Brendan Allen. So yeah, 0:54:21.680 --> 0:54:26.319 very interesting stuff there. So anything else for us? I 0:54:26.360 --> 0:54:28.880 guess ray I would like to get thirty seconds or 0:54:28.960 --> 0:54:31.000 so on Joe Pifer because this fan. 0:54:31.120 --> 0:54:32.799 Oh yeah, let's not tell you with a lot. 0:54:32.920 --> 0:54:34.680 He joined us off the top of the show today 0:54:35.120 --> 0:54:38.880 and I just really am happy for I guess his 0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:41.720 relative piece and happiness. 0:54:42.200 --> 0:54:45.719 Yeah, I didn't lean into that whatever they said. I 0:54:45.760 --> 0:54:48.120 hope he's all right. I know, you know, he came 0:54:48.200 --> 0:54:51.279 up on the regional circuit, He's surrounded by a lot 0:54:51.320 --> 0:54:56.640 of good people, and man, they kind of that fight 0:54:56.760 --> 0:54:59.200 was almost like Wideman Silver in a way didn't have 0:54:59.239 --> 0:55:02.880 the implications, but it was a guy coming up, big 0:55:02.920 --> 0:55:05.799 strong kid, you know what I mean, fighting the guy 0:55:05.840 --> 0:55:09.560 that's considered one of the best ever. And uh yeah, 0:55:09.600 --> 0:55:12.680 it's off the Piper. What a great, great win that 0:55:12.840 --> 0:55:15.920 is for him. And uh, you know, now things get interesting, 0:55:16.200 --> 0:55:18.200 right because now he's in the top What is he 0:55:18.239 --> 0:55:18.959 in the top five? 0:55:19.400 --> 0:55:20.879 Yep, yep. 0:55:21.400 --> 0:55:24.319 Yeah, So I'm happy to see. We'll see where it goes. 0:55:24.360 --> 0:55:27.880 But I'm happy for Piper. I just hope he holds 0:55:27.880 --> 0:55:30.319 it together. Whatever I heard about the suicide thing, I 0:55:30.360 --> 0:55:33.480 hope that's I hope he gets the right help and 0:55:33.600 --> 0:55:36.359 uh yeah, And you know, it's crazy when you think 0:55:36.400 --> 0:55:39.080 about that we have. It seems like you're on top. 0:55:38.920 --> 0:55:42.840 Of the world with everything and still you know, people 0:55:42.840 --> 0:55:43.400 don't get it. 0:55:43.480 --> 0:55:47.600 Man, It's a really serious, serious problem. And I hope 0:55:47.640 --> 0:55:50.560 he deals with it right correctly. I mean, you know 0:55:50.600 --> 0:55:54.239 what's funny, Tomember, remember that comedian Richard Jenny Like he 0:55:54.360 --> 0:55:55.160 was with his girlfriend. 0:55:55.160 --> 0:55:56.400 He's having a great time. I got it. 0:55:56.440 --> 0:55:57.920 I'm just gonna go to the bathroom, went in the 0:55:57.920 --> 0:56:00.319 bathroom and killed himself. But it wasn't like he was 0:56:00.360 --> 0:56:04.080 having a bad time. But mentally, if shit gets in 0:56:04.120 --> 0:56:07.319 your head and you don't have the right you know, 0:56:07.440 --> 0:56:10.799 defense mechanisms or the support team around you, I think 0:56:10.880 --> 0:56:12.839 things get ugly really quick. 0:56:12.840 --> 0:56:13.840 So I really only. 0:56:13.760 --> 0:56:16.399 Wish him the best. I know the people that manage him, 0:56:16.400 --> 0:56:20.440 I'm very close with everybody's He's a good He's a 0:56:20.480 --> 0:56:22.480 really good dude who went through a lot as a kid, 0:56:22.520 --> 0:56:23.600 and I hope he gets through it. 0:56:24.120 --> 0:56:25.879 Yeah, I mean, it seems like he's in a good 0:56:25.920 --> 0:56:29.480 place now. But Ray, what do you think about his potential? 0:56:29.480 --> 0:56:31.640 I know you know you've you've spoken highly of him. 0:56:31.680 --> 0:56:33.080 Do you think he's a guy that could be a 0:56:33.160 --> 0:56:35.640 champion in that very difficult middleweight division. 0:56:36.520 --> 0:56:39.239 Yeah, I think, Look, it's gonna it's gonna eventually. Look, 0:56:39.280 --> 0:56:43.359 he's got his his wrestling, his jiu jitsu. Everything looked 0:56:43.400 --> 0:56:43.840 on point. 0:56:43.880 --> 0:56:45.759 He passed the guard NS and I'm not saying he 0:56:45.760 --> 0:56:48.200 was getting resistance or whatever, but I know they I 0:56:48.200 --> 0:56:50.480 think they brought in NICKI Rodriguez, so it looks like 0:56:50.680 --> 0:56:52.360 he's tight and in some of his stuff up. I 0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:54.359 don't think he can get much better of a guy 0:56:54.400 --> 0:56:59.040 to bring int that guy. I think he does. Man, 0:56:59.080 --> 0:57:01.680 he hits. He I'll tell you what, he's got lead 0:57:01.719 --> 0:57:04.239 in his hands, and I like a couple of those 0:57:04.320 --> 0:57:07.400 right hands. He just snuck in there out of nowhere, 0:57:07.640 --> 0:57:09.719 you know what I mean. So I saw some really. 0:57:09.880 --> 0:57:11.480 Good massive middle way to man. 0:57:11.840 --> 0:57:13.800 Yeah, I tell you, I thought he was going to 0:57:13.840 --> 0:57:15.879 be a lot tall. He's he's bigger than I thought. 0:57:16.040 --> 0:57:18.360 They matched They matched up, Yeah, they matched up a 0:57:18.360 --> 0:57:20.560 little differently. When I got out there, I thought the 0:57:20.720 --> 0:57:24.480 size was going to be a little more in his advantage, 0:57:24.480 --> 0:57:27.439 and I don't even think it wasn't advantage. So yeah, 0:57:27.440 --> 0:57:29.680 I think I think he could do whatever he wants 0:57:29.720 --> 0:57:29.920 to do. 0:57:30.360 --> 0:57:30.760 Has that. 0:57:30.960 --> 0:57:34.120 I think he wants it, and he stays on track 0:57:34.160 --> 0:57:37.200 and he gets his head focused and clears up all 0:57:37.240 --> 0:57:37.720 that other ship. 0:57:37.800 --> 0:57:41.800 Yet there's nothing no stopping them. He's got the tools and. 0:57:41.680 --> 0:57:44.320 In many respects they are going to be easier stylistic 0:57:44.360 --> 0:57:47.240 matchups for him than Israel. Not a son you kicking 0:57:47.280 --> 0:57:50.200 the shit out of your goddamn calves. And even though Pifer, 0:57:50.720 --> 0:57:52.800 in talking about the calf kicks earlier, said that he 0:57:52.840 --> 0:57:54.440 was able to fight through them, I think part of 0:57:54.480 --> 0:57:56.880 the issue is and Bola Mohabbed others suggests it's a 0:57:56.920 --> 0:58:01.760 toughness equation, but sometimes if that one completely changes the 0:58:01.760 --> 0:58:04.240 complexion of the fight, that's the issue. So you are 0:58:04.320 --> 0:58:09.200 playing with fire when it comes to that if that won, right, So, Ray, 0:58:09.720 --> 0:58:13.160 did you see the featured prelim between Tafik Mussaiah and 0:58:13.160 --> 0:58:17.240 Ignacio ba A Mondez that painted blood all over the canvas? 0:58:17.280 --> 0:58:20.640 Did you see that fight? Was happy that the I 0:58:20.960 --> 0:58:23.520 was happy to UFC got back on track. Yeah, this 0:58:23.680 --> 0:58:26.040 is what I suspect every great. 0:58:27.200 --> 0:58:31.400 Yeah, so there's a few different angles through which to 0:58:31.440 --> 0:58:33.720 attack this, Kenny, I guess you can start us off here. 0:58:33.760 --> 0:58:35.560 There were fouls for a fence. 0:58:35.320 --> 0:58:41.480 Grab and edbudd that went completely unacknowledged, and again just 0:58:41.640 --> 0:58:46.680 inconsistency in officiating rearing its head here. This was not 0:58:46.720 --> 0:58:50.240 one of the big name referees necessarily, but uh, you know, 0:58:50.320 --> 0:58:52.960 this would seem to be as easy a case for 0:58:53.080 --> 0:58:55.479 some sort of appellate intervention as. 0:58:55.400 --> 0:58:59.560 Any you know. The they were egregious to like the 0:58:59.640 --> 0:59:05.000 head but was blatant. It was clear it was There 0:59:05.080 --> 0:59:08.320 was no like elbow behind it or punch behind it. 0:59:08.320 --> 0:59:12.800 It was just a frigging you know, early UFC headbutt 0:59:12.880 --> 0:59:16.440 right to the dome and that's not cool and that 0:59:16.480 --> 0:59:19.000 affected the fight, right, I mean the cut, the blood 0:59:19.000 --> 0:59:21.000 in the eyes. I've been there, when you're on your 0:59:21.080 --> 0:59:22.920 back and you got blood in your eyes, it's like 0:59:22.960 --> 0:59:24.760 someone just puts a red sheet over your eyes and 0:59:25.000 --> 0:59:27.520 you can't really do much. It gets slippery, of course, 0:59:27.560 --> 0:59:30.360 and and just gets worse and worse. The taste isn't 0:59:30.360 --> 0:59:33.840 great either, uh, but you know I was. It was unfortunate. 0:59:33.920 --> 0:59:36.280 And then Bob Munda is in a great position to 0:59:36.360 --> 0:59:40.320 hit a souplex, and Messiah is I was holding the 0:59:40.360 --> 0:59:42.600 cage just as clear as day. 0:59:43.120 --> 0:59:44.720 No file, no talk like. 0:59:45.080 --> 0:59:46.960 It was one of those things where as a fighter, 0:59:47.000 --> 0:59:49.760 you're in there and you're like, this is not my day. 0:59:49.960 --> 0:59:51.840 Everything is kind of going against him. 0:59:51.840 --> 0:59:54.240 And now I don't think bab Munda's did himself a 0:59:54.280 --> 0:59:56.040 whole lot of favor of some of the decision making 0:59:56.120 --> 0:59:58.080 he was he was doing out there, But you know, 0:59:58.880 --> 1:00:02.360 just those two things could have changed the fight completely, right, 1:00:02.480 --> 1:00:05.400 So it was unfortunate. And for those you know, maybe 1:00:05.440 --> 1:00:07.520 the referees are the officials that are kind of watching 1:00:07.520 --> 1:00:11.000 the teape. Ah, maybe they should have seen it a 1:00:11.000 --> 1:00:13.720 little clear or mentioned something. I don't know, but and 1:00:13.720 --> 1:00:16.080 I don't know if if they have any power in 1:00:16.160 --> 1:00:19.400 doing that, because I think the referee in cage has 1:00:19.440 --> 1:00:23.440 to see something or think he sees something. But yeah, 1:00:23.480 --> 1:00:25.520 it was a lot of things went wrong for Bob 1:00:25.520 --> 1:00:26.240 wonders that night. 1:00:26.320 --> 1:00:26.480 You know. 1:00:27.280 --> 1:00:29.520 Yeah, it's a shame, And I think the worst part 1:00:29.600 --> 1:00:31.800 of the story for me. First off, the ref. 1:00:31.720 --> 1:00:34.760 Was completely at at a position that might not have 1:00:34.800 --> 1:00:37.440 been his fault, but he he was on the opposite side. 1:00:37.520 --> 1:00:38.840 I don't think he could see anything. 1:00:39.200 --> 1:00:41.320 Yeah, not the best angle because the cage. 1:00:41.040 --> 1:00:43.040 Is not the best angle for that. Yeah. 1:00:43.080 --> 1:00:46.960 But what the worst part to me is file a 1:00:47.040 --> 1:00:50.640 complaint and what's the Athletic Commission going to do about that? 1:00:51.200 --> 1:00:52.080 Want me to tell you? 1:00:52.600 --> 1:00:58.800 Yeah, there you go, absolutely fucking nothing. What purpose do 1:00:58.880 --> 1:01:02.760 you fucking served? You can't overturn a decision? I mean 1:01:02.800 --> 1:01:04.600 there's blatant stuff going on. 1:01:05.040 --> 1:01:06.320 Yeah, and that that to me is for. 1:01:06.640 --> 1:01:08.640 Look, the ref's at a position, he doesn't see it, 1:01:09.040 --> 1:01:12.480 but then the fighter knows it, so finally complain. 1:01:13.240 --> 1:01:13.680 Yeah. 1:01:13.960 --> 1:01:17.840 Well, no, you're right that oftentimes those are fruitless, but 1:01:17.920 --> 1:01:19.840 I think in this case, I think it might. 1:01:20.400 --> 1:01:22.080 But why should it be fruitless? John? 1:01:22.560 --> 1:01:23.600 No, I'm not suggesting it. 1:01:24.000 --> 1:01:25.600 No, No, I know, no, I know, I'm not saying 1:01:25.600 --> 1:01:29.600 I'm not I'm just saying, but why it's right? No? 1:01:30.160 --> 1:01:32.640 Right, Well, that's why in this particular case. 1:01:32.520 --> 1:01:35.840 Right, I mean, show me something, show me you can 1:01:35.920 --> 1:01:36.880 do your fucking job. 1:01:36.960 --> 1:01:37.320 How's that? 1:01:37.720 --> 1:01:41.440 Do your fucking job and analyze the tape and tell 1:01:41.520 --> 1:01:44.320 us what you think, because that'll be real interesting. 1:01:44.800 --> 1:01:45.040 Yeah. 1:01:45.480 --> 1:01:50.720 You know what, I'm not sure that there is a 1:01:50.760 --> 1:01:59.840 fighter as roundly respected and appreciated by his peers as 1:02:00.000 --> 1:02:03.120 Michael Kissa. And there was such an outpouring of love 1:02:03.480 --> 1:02:07.280 for this man. And I have a relationship with his 1:02:07.400 --> 1:02:10.040 mom from The Ultimate Fighter Live back in twenty twelve, 1:02:10.080 --> 1:02:11.680 and I was able to send her a message after 1:02:11.720 --> 1:02:14.920 the win. And it's really been amazing to watch him 1:02:14.960 --> 1:02:18.920 go about this mixed martial arts career. When he lost 1:02:18.960 --> 1:02:22.080 his father during filming of The Ultimate Fighter Live back 1:02:22.120 --> 1:02:26.720 in twenty immediately tied him to this fan base and 1:02:26.800 --> 1:02:28.840 he's just been dripping with class every step of the way. 1:02:28.880 --> 1:02:29.880 And so to see a guy like. 1:02:29.840 --> 1:02:35.920 That in his damn hometown get like the actual perfect 1:02:36.000 --> 1:02:38.680 send off Kenny, just incredible. 1:02:39.160 --> 1:02:39.920 It was perfect. 1:02:40.160 --> 1:02:42.439 You know, a Kisa deserves all of it because he's 1:02:42.480 --> 1:02:45.960 one of those guys that never, you know, compromised his 1:02:46.160 --> 1:02:47.560 values or anything like that. 1:02:47.760 --> 1:02:50.880 He was never disrespectful towards people. 1:02:51.120 --> 1:02:54.160 He did everything the right way and as a professional 1:02:54.200 --> 1:02:57.520 through and through and. 1:02:56.320 --> 1:02:57.960 It was great to see him go out like that. 1:02:58.120 --> 1:03:02.080 Now it's not always like that, right, you know, not 1:03:02.240 --> 1:03:05.640 every fighter says goodbye on a win or in their 1:03:05.640 --> 1:03:09.640 hometown or in that manner. And that's about as perfect 1:03:09.720 --> 1:03:12.160 as it gets for Kisa, and it was great to 1:03:12.160 --> 1:03:13.320 see him go out like that. 1:03:13.960 --> 1:03:16.560 He's always been a really cool, down. 1:03:16.320 --> 1:03:21.160 To earth guy, humble guy, hard working dude, and you know, 1:03:21.200 --> 1:03:22.840 one of those guys who really had to kind of 1:03:22.880 --> 1:03:23.400 work for it. 1:03:23.440 --> 1:03:24.960 He didn't have a whole it wasn't. 1:03:24.800 --> 1:03:27.720 Blessed with a ton of you know, crazy physicality and 1:03:27.760 --> 1:03:30.480 talent and all that stuff. He worked for everything he 1:03:30.560 --> 1:03:32.960 got in the sport. And you know that that was 1:03:33.000 --> 1:03:34.880 an awesome performance for him, and I am very happy 1:03:34.880 --> 1:03:35.240 for him. 1:03:35.440 --> 1:03:37.360 Yeah, I mean, he's a guy John I liked From 1:03:37.400 --> 1:03:40.560 the first second I talked to him, I knew I 1:03:40.600 --> 1:03:43.880 would be, you know, friends with that guy forever. He's 1:03:43.920 --> 1:03:47.400 just a good dude, beautiful wife, met his mom back 1:03:47.440 --> 1:03:49.520 in that MacGregor incident, I believe, and. 1:03:49.840 --> 1:03:51.600 Just nice people. You got. 1:03:51.760 --> 1:03:54.560 I like when nice, nice things happen to nice people. 1:03:54.600 --> 1:03:57.040 And that's a perfect example of it. And again an 1:03:57.040 --> 1:03:59.760 example of a guy that never became champion, I had 1:04:00.200 --> 1:04:02.240 Korea and he's going to go on to be do 1:04:02.400 --> 1:04:04.560 great things in the broadcast stuff. 1:04:04.200 --> 1:04:07.280 And it's just a it's a feel good story, it 1:04:07.360 --> 1:04:07.840 really is. 1:04:07.920 --> 1:04:10.360 And the adversity he had to go through, I think 1:04:10.360 --> 1:04:13.520 everybody knows what pain neck could be like and uh 1:04:13.960 --> 1:04:17.360 just pats off to that guy's like again a class act. 1:04:17.720 --> 1:04:22.240 Since the second I met him. 1:04:20.840 --> 1:04:22.400 I know a lot of people were talking about Nico 1:04:22.520 --> 1:04:24.520 Price not getting a microphone. 1:04:25.120 --> 1:04:26.400 Has Nico retired? 1:04:26.480 --> 1:04:28.080 I was getting a lot of mentions on this on 1:04:28.120 --> 1:04:30.520 social media, and I was trying to remind fans that 1:04:30.560 --> 1:04:33.040 I was not actually there because they were saying that 1:04:33.160 --> 1:04:35.560 Annex screwed Nico Price. I was like, I'm with my 1:04:35.560 --> 1:04:41.440 fucking son, actually, but yeah, I don't know if we 1:04:41.600 --> 1:04:47.680 like I'm actually, you know, Hendrix Jin not watching kis alive. 1:04:47.840 --> 1:04:49.880 I'm with my son. But no, I don't know if 1:04:49.960 --> 1:04:50.520 Nego Price. 1:04:50.560 --> 1:04:54.080 Maybe some fans were suggesting he's stuck around and was 1:04:54.120 --> 1:04:56.680 hoping to maybe get an interview. I don't know, but 1:04:56.800 --> 1:04:59.520 I know a retirement package obviously was built for Michael Kiessa. 1:04:59.560 --> 1:05:02.240 But yes, we do, at least here want to acknowledge 1:05:02.320 --> 1:05:06.800 Nico Price. His contributions to the sport, and I've really 1:05:06.880 --> 1:05:09.000 enjoyed getting a no Nico price and always giving him 1:05:09.000 --> 1:05:11.720 a hard time about yes, whatever it is, you know, 1:05:13.520 --> 1:05:17.040 by the way, thrown Sport Coffee coming to Longo's Genil. 1:05:18.680 --> 1:05:21.240 Each gets one hundred and fifty milligrams a natural caffeine, 1:05:21.280 --> 1:05:24.080 natural sweeteners, and one hundred percent of your daily B vitamins. 1:05:24.280 --> 1:05:27.640 The lattes also packed ten grams of protein. Cold brewis 1:05:27.680 --> 1:05:30.360 are low sugar, a lot of dairy free options as well. 1:05:30.400 --> 1:05:33.240 I'm trying to premium charge cold brew vanilla bean today, 1:05:33.240 --> 1:05:38.680 which is dairy free for my lactose tolerance issues. Thrown 1:05:39.160 --> 1:05:43.120 Sport Coffee also NSF certified for sport. 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Let's go 1:06:14.240 --> 1:06:17.000 four wide and welcome on Jason, and for this conversation, 1:06:17.320 --> 1:06:21.480 it's actually a perfect segue because he knows his entire business. 1:06:22.640 --> 1:06:26.080 The sane brother has joined us. Thank you dude. 1:06:26.320 --> 1:06:30.520 Well, so I'm I'm like, as soon as Ray got 1:06:30.560 --> 1:06:32.200 on the screen, he was like, there it. 1:06:32.120 --> 1:06:32.760 Is the UFC. 1:06:32.800 --> 1:06:34.959 How about that fucking fight card everybody? And I said 1:06:34.960 --> 1:06:37.680 that on one of my shows earlier, like all these fans, right, 1:06:38.080 --> 1:06:40.800 all this other hype around like the UFC. Yes, slow 1:06:40.840 --> 1:06:43.160 playing twenty twenty six, but like when we all see 1:06:43.160 --> 1:06:45.720 that blood like we love it and that finished one 1:06:45.720 --> 1:06:47.680 of the greatest finishes ever. But like Nico Price, let 1:06:47.680 --> 1:06:49.960 me just back up there for twenty one fight with Jeff. 1:06:49.960 --> 1:06:51.280 Wait, hold on, Jason, slow down. 1:06:51.280 --> 1:06:53.160 You're not You're not going to take John's job, but 1:06:53.160 --> 1:06:55.520 you're doing a great job. I hate to dirupt you, 1:06:55.600 --> 1:06:57.040 but keep telling sorry about that. 1:06:57.160 --> 1:07:00.040 Well, I'm trying. I'm trying to learn everything like an interview. 1:07:00.520 --> 1:07:03.080 But like Nico Price and with the utmost respect to 1:07:03.120 --> 1:07:05.400 the promotion and everyone running like twenty one fights in 1:07:05.400 --> 1:07:09.200 the UFC fought a murderer's row like his whole career. 1:07:09.600 --> 1:07:11.560 I think he you know, I mean, like he'd lost 1:07:11.640 --> 1:07:13.000 six of seven, four straight. 1:07:13.000 --> 1:07:14.640 But like he said he. 1:07:14.640 --> 1:07:18.320 Was retiring, comes out to him coming home right, takes 1:07:18.360 --> 1:07:22.360 the gloves off lingers in the octagon. It wasn't like 1:07:22.440 --> 1:07:25.360 coming out of nowhere, and like one little moment would 1:07:25.360 --> 1:07:27.240 have been good for a guy who's made a lot 1:07:27.280 --> 1:07:30.160 of moments, maybe more for his opponent than himself. 1:07:29.840 --> 1:07:35.600 Over Yeah, yeah, and perhaps so this guy perhaps you 1:07:35.600 --> 1:07:39.240 looking at your notes, No, you know, I know again, 1:07:39.320 --> 1:07:41.600 I wasn't there, so I don't know if they knew 1:07:41.640 --> 1:07:42.640 that Nico was retiring. 1:07:42.680 --> 1:07:45.560 Anyway, that's probably neither of that's there. But anyway, so 1:07:45.680 --> 1:07:50.800 Cody sent me he just wiped us up. Cody sent 1:07:50.880 --> 1:07:55.560 me an estimate of this like broadcast kit to set 1:07:55.640 --> 1:07:56.000 up at. 1:07:55.920 --> 1:07:57.480 Longos Gym, like everything. 1:07:57.520 --> 1:08:01.040 We would need a fucking soundboard, the micro phones, everything else. 1:08:01.080 --> 1:08:03.040 And I'm thinking, you know, am I gonna pay for 1:08:03.080 --> 1:08:05.760 this for long goos m m A so I can 1:08:05.840 --> 1:08:08.200 show up there and haze these people once a month. 1:08:08.520 --> 1:08:11.640 It's less than two g's ray, I just haven't less. 1:08:11.440 --> 1:08:14.200 Than two gs. That's that's nothing. 1:08:14.680 --> 1:08:17.639 Yeah, well it's not I don't It's not my chim. 1:08:19.160 --> 1:08:22.960 That's all right. 1:08:23.000 --> 1:08:26.840 I'll pay for the fucking studio, Chicken for the Chicken 1:08:26.880 --> 1:08:34.200 pat the Chicken pay for anything. I mean, you have 1:08:34.360 --> 1:08:36.160 said the Chicken Pound is going to sponsor the Ray 1:08:36.200 --> 1:08:39.080 Longo minute, and they've done nothing of the soil. 1:08:39.200 --> 1:08:42.560 I got it, I forgot. I have to find a sponsor. 1:08:43.080 --> 1:08:44.879 But in all series, we're getting that done. 1:08:45.200 --> 1:08:47.599 I got eight cases of throwing sport coffee and as 1:08:47.640 --> 1:08:50.400 soon as you have a reasonable Bros. Broadcast set up. 1:08:50.439 --> 1:08:53.000 I know Steve Lee is like the greatest manager in 1:08:53.200 --> 1:08:55.439 M M. A. Jim history, but like maybe he could 1:08:55.520 --> 1:08:56.559 help facilitate something. 1:08:57.080 --> 1:08:59.360 He's got all the equipment. You gotta check with Cody. 1:08:59.560 --> 1:09:02.920 We have Steve. Yeah, we had somebody bring down equipment. 1:09:03.200 --> 1:09:05.960 Hey John, why don't you just run point on the 1:09:06.000 --> 1:09:07.439 whole opos. 1:09:08.960 --> 1:09:12.080 Yeah, text you Ray. I got nothing else going on. 1:09:14.439 --> 1:09:14.920 Something else. 1:09:15.280 --> 1:09:17.880 I want to ask you guys about blood in mixed 1:09:17.880 --> 1:09:22.960 martial arts, right because Kenny Florian, who three times Challenge 1:09:23.000 --> 1:09:25.280 for UFC Gold, has been involved in a lot of 1:09:25.320 --> 1:09:28.320 bloody fights in his day. His fight against Sean Shirk 1:09:28.360 --> 1:09:32.559 one of the bloodiest in UFC history. Kenny was tasting 1:09:32.800 --> 1:09:35.599 blood for weeks upon weeks, and I think it's still 1:09:35.640 --> 1:09:38.360 actually in the tentacles of his eyes, right. 1:09:38.600 --> 1:09:38.840 Yeah. 1:09:38.840 --> 1:09:40.960 He also bludgeoned and bloodied Clay. 1:09:41.560 --> 1:09:44.680 Now, my twin brother Jason ray who is here and 1:09:44.680 --> 1:09:47.720 I'm gonna lead with Raymond on this, absolutely loves the 1:09:47.760 --> 1:09:51.400 blood in MMA. There are certain people who need to 1:09:51.439 --> 1:09:53.600 turn away. There are other people who can't deal with 1:09:53.640 --> 1:09:57.640 the broken bones. Most of the responses I got to 1:09:57.680 --> 1:09:59.960 this question about blood and Mma said, it's much easier 1:10:00.160 --> 1:10:02.320 for me to look at a blood soaked canvas then 1:10:02.400 --> 1:10:06.000 to have seen that Macy Barber replay several times over So, 1:10:06.160 --> 1:10:10.200 Ray when you see the canvas get painted with blood 1:10:10.240 --> 1:10:12.280 early and that's the visual for the rest of the 1:10:12.400 --> 1:10:13.519 night overall. 1:10:13.520 --> 1:10:16.800 How do you feel about spilt blood in m ms? 1:10:17.840 --> 1:10:20.879 Uh, not really different. 1:10:21.040 --> 1:10:23.160 I don't know part of the game, but it doesn't 1:10:23.720 --> 1:10:26.240 you know, you're not I'd rather look at the blood 1:10:26.240 --> 1:10:27.360 than the Macy Babit thing. 1:10:27.400 --> 1:10:29.840 You can probably in that category, you know. I think 1:10:29.920 --> 1:10:31.960 it's part of why don't I see it in the gym? 1:10:32.040 --> 1:10:34.479 I see it all over the place awaybe you just 1:10:34.520 --> 1:10:37.080 get used to it. It's nothing, nothing new. 1:10:37.920 --> 1:10:42.000 Yeah, well, I guess you know, heading in there, it's 1:10:42.120 --> 1:10:44.519 it's kind of nasty. Like if if I'm not fighting, 1:10:44.560 --> 1:10:46.719 if I'm not in that mindset, I think it's gross. 1:10:46.960 --> 1:10:48.200 You know. Like I saw that. 1:10:48.360 --> 1:10:53.160 Huge patch of blood taking up, you know, one corner 1:10:53.160 --> 1:10:55.720 of the octagon. I'm like, damn, dude, Like that's a 1:10:55.720 --> 1:10:56.800 lot of staff right there. 1:10:57.160 --> 1:10:58.880 But uh, you know when you're. 1:10:58.760 --> 1:11:02.519 In there, when I'm just like, all right, well I'm here, 1:11:02.560 --> 1:11:05.640 there's nothing I could do, you know. I remember after that, 1:11:05.880 --> 1:11:09.320 after that shirt fight, I found I took two showers. 1:11:09.360 --> 1:11:12.120 I took one backstage, you know, after the fight, and 1:11:12.160 --> 1:11:13.840 I took another one when I got back to the hotel. 1:11:13.840 --> 1:11:15.800 Because that's how much blood I had, like in my 1:11:15.880 --> 1:11:18.679 hair caked, I like dreads of blood in my hair. 1:11:19.360 --> 1:11:21.640 The next morning, I woke up, I had blood in 1:11:21.720 --> 1:11:24.120 my eyelids. I had blood in my ears. I went 1:11:24.160 --> 1:11:25.960 to scratch my ear and blood was still there. 1:11:25.960 --> 1:11:28.599 I'm like, this is disgusting. I have another pig that's 1:11:28.640 --> 1:11:29.720 blood like this. 1:11:29.880 --> 1:11:32.280 You know, this could be beat but uh yeah, man, 1:11:32.479 --> 1:11:35.040 it's crazy, but it's a part of the sport. I 1:11:35.080 --> 1:11:37.960 don't like the dislocated or broken boats Like I don't 1:11:38.000 --> 1:11:38.720 like looking at that. 1:11:38.880 --> 1:11:40.919 Yeah, like Chris's leg. 1:11:41.000 --> 1:11:43.120 What was like, I don't want to see. 1:11:42.880 --> 1:11:45.240 I'll see it once because I'm seeing it live and 1:11:45.240 --> 1:11:46.559 I don't want to see that again. 1:11:46.680 --> 1:11:47.280 It's nasty. 1:11:47.400 --> 1:11:50.320 See Kenny's a fighter, raise a coach, so there with John, 1:11:50.320 --> 1:11:51.920 but we're more fans like I love it all the 1:11:51.920 --> 1:11:55.639 fucking like Hematomas, like give me all of that dislocated limbs. 1:11:55.760 --> 1:11:58.800 And Nacho Nacio bamanas it was his blood. He's a 1:11:58.920 --> 1:12:01.000 friend of mine, some of a close friend of mine. 1:12:01.080 --> 1:12:01.200 Right. 1:12:01.479 --> 1:12:04.320 Interestingly enough, I always say I live in a fight home. 1:12:04.360 --> 1:12:06.720 I have daughters age nine and twelve. Fights are on. 1:12:07.080 --> 1:12:09.599 I turn it on for Nacho's fight, and I have 1:12:09.640 --> 1:12:11.760 to be like girls, all right that one Maybe girls 1:12:11.800 --> 1:12:13.040 can go to your dance in the other room. 1:12:13.080 --> 1:12:14.559 Go ahead, John, Yes exactly. 1:12:14.640 --> 1:12:17.960 So that's actually why I brought this question to social 1:12:18.000 --> 1:12:22.400 media was because I was watching the Nacho fight with 1:12:22.479 --> 1:12:27.800 my kids and my son couldn't turn away, you know, 1:12:28.120 --> 1:12:31.040 fascinated by all the redness, and my daughter Riley left 1:12:31.040 --> 1:12:34.840 the room. One comment here, Jay at screenplay, I don't 1:12:34.880 --> 1:12:36.640 like it, but I know it will sometimes happen. I 1:12:36.680 --> 1:12:39.280 was way more concerned with the amount of times viewers 1:12:39.280 --> 1:12:43.240 were shown an unconscious Macy Barber, not focusing, not being present. 1:12:43.479 --> 1:12:45.479 There are a lot of people also who talk about 1:12:45.800 --> 1:12:49.240 that there is a cleaning agent that you could use. 1:12:49.320 --> 1:12:52.240 Don't you think that if the UF could get all 1:12:52.280 --> 1:12:54.320 of that blood out of there in an instant that 1:12:54.400 --> 1:12:56.920 they would or No, Well, I think at one point 1:12:57.080 --> 1:13:00.439 DC on the broadcast or someone said, like a being 1:13:00.479 --> 1:13:03.360 someone coming in to the fights a little bit late, 1:13:03.600 --> 1:13:06.559 and you see this red canvas. It's absolutely incredible. I 1:13:06.600 --> 1:13:08.280 really like all of it. It's part of the drama 1:13:08.320 --> 1:13:11.400 of the sport. It's part of what these fighters risk 1:13:11.840 --> 1:13:13.760 going in there. But what I'll tell you about the 1:13:13.840 --> 1:13:16.240 Nacho fight that was really interesting is like, I'm screaming 1:13:16.280 --> 1:13:18.519 at my TV. I didn't see the fence grab. I 1:13:18.560 --> 1:13:20.559 wanted Nacho to keep this thing on the feet, you know, 1:13:21.320 --> 1:13:23.840 the whole time. So I'm screaming at the TV. And 1:13:23.840 --> 1:13:26.439 then the blood camps. It was a really unique moment 1:13:26.479 --> 1:13:28.519 in the home. But John, give me all the blood, 1:13:28.680 --> 1:13:30.200 even though it was Nacho's too. 1:13:30.720 --> 1:13:32.800 Yeah, John, I tell you years ago when I would 1:13:32.800 --> 1:13:36.479 take my fighters to my partner, Lou Nigli has place 1:13:36.520 --> 1:13:39.479 in Brooklyn. He had a ring with a white canvas 1:13:39.760 --> 1:13:41.080 just full of blood. 1:13:41.080 --> 1:13:42.960 It was like character like you write. 1:13:43.560 --> 1:13:45.280 You know, if a guy really wants to fight, you 1:13:45.320 --> 1:13:48.040 got to go into those dirty Not that his was dirty, 1:13:48.040 --> 1:13:50.000 but the boxing gyms were brutal. 1:13:50.120 --> 1:13:51.960 They would dirty as. 1:13:51.760 --> 1:13:54.479 Hell, and that you almost tested if your guy really 1:13:54.920 --> 1:13:56.920 had the stomach to fight, just by getting him in 1:13:56.960 --> 1:13:58.519 there at a long time. 1:13:58.880 --> 1:14:02.200 Anyway, grapes and your cuts in there make it strong. 1:14:02.400 --> 1:14:05.200 Go ahead, Yeah, I mean I got I got fans 1:14:05.200 --> 1:14:07.920 saying yep, john ANX the pussy for even asking this question, 1:14:08.000 --> 1:14:10.120 And that's what that's true. 1:14:10.120 --> 1:14:12.160 That could be true as well, that is yeah, No. 1:14:12.320 --> 1:14:15.559 I mean, I definitely have some tendencies that would probably 1:14:15.600 --> 1:14:21.720 classify me as a right. Would you rather answer a 1:14:21.760 --> 1:14:23.800 few more questions or go to the gym? 1:14:24.439 --> 1:14:25.560 I gotta get out of it, But let me just 1:14:25.600 --> 1:14:27.479 say a couple of things before I go. First off, 1:14:27.720 --> 1:14:30.719 hats off to Demetrius Johnson that that was awesome. 1:14:30.720 --> 1:14:32.600 What the UFC did? I want? I don't want that 1:14:32.720 --> 1:14:34.879 to go. I think that guy. 1:14:35.320 --> 1:14:38.960 By far the best that put everything together even a 1:14:39.000 --> 1:14:41.080 while ago, you know, and he goes back a little bit, 1:14:41.120 --> 1:14:42.880 you know, and we don't even see that today. 1:14:42.920 --> 1:14:45.960 As much. But hats off the Demetrius Johnson. I thought 1:14:45.960 --> 1:14:48.599 the UFC knocked it out of the park. They did 1:14:48.600 --> 1:14:49.240 the right thing. 1:14:49.479 --> 1:14:55.280 Was great to see, Uh, Adrian Janna's total fucking screw man. 1:14:56.720 --> 1:14:59.080 I mean, I don't I don't know. I mean, why 1:14:59.080 --> 1:15:02.280 would you do that today? Kid man? What a beautiful fight. 1:15:02.320 --> 1:15:06.200 He fort like he fought a really intelligent, smart fight 1:15:07.200 --> 1:15:09.719 after being out for a while. I just that shit 1:15:10.320 --> 1:15:14.040 just drives me fucking crazy that these guys have no idea. 1:15:14.160 --> 1:15:18.280 I mean this Wholetown's decision is hometown decisions. Then there's that, 1:15:18.760 --> 1:15:19.000 you know. 1:15:19.120 --> 1:15:23.719 But Rickney Simone I thought almost got saved by the 1:15:23.760 --> 1:15:26.400 bell horn, which you're not supposed to be able to 1:15:26.439 --> 1:15:28.719 be saved by. You know, he was able to get 1:15:28.720 --> 1:15:30.439 his wits about him. I was thinking about Ricky Simone 1:15:30.439 --> 1:15:31.880 and Rob Wallace Willy back in the y. 1:15:33.200 --> 1:15:36.840 That guy's been gifted to victories or ties or what for. 1:15:37.439 --> 1:15:40.439 He got lucky. But anyway, I've had to walk to 1:15:40.880 --> 1:15:43.240 Adrian hang in there. I think he's a great fighter. 1:15:43.640 --> 1:15:46.240 Was great to see him get back on track. Unfortunately 1:15:46.680 --> 1:15:48.680 he's got to put up with this bullshit now, but 1:15:49.520 --> 1:15:51.360 hopefully he gets through it and last, but not least, 1:15:51.400 --> 1:15:54.759 before I go. Everybody watched Poomi's fight Puomi the Cooder. 1:15:54.800 --> 1:15:59.679 Another outstanding performance. Go to Uriah Hall's a one combat 1:15:59.720 --> 1:16:00.439 watched fight. 1:16:00.720 --> 1:16:02.799 When is that you're out of favor? 1:16:03.640 --> 1:16:04.840 Yeah? That was Friday night. 1:16:05.600 --> 1:16:07.879 Oh it just happened. This pastor is yeah. 1:16:07.880 --> 1:16:11.400 Really, congrats to him. Another vigua happened. The kids got 1:16:11.439 --> 1:16:12.640 five belts? 1:16:12.920 --> 1:16:15.320 What happened on Friday Nights? We won the A one belt? 1:16:15.680 --> 1:16:16.960 Yeah? 1:16:17.000 --> 1:16:18.599 How did you win? Decision finished? 1:16:18.640 --> 1:16:20.439 He did one by the decision, but he was going 1:16:20.479 --> 1:16:21.719 for He did knock them down a couple. 1:16:21.800 --> 1:16:24.320 No, I'm just I I hate usually I'm on top 1:16:24.400 --> 1:16:28.880 of my I'm not. I'm sitting here looking at ray. 1:16:28.880 --> 1:16:32.160 Would you rather have five beastings at once or twenty five? 1:16:32.200 --> 1:16:35.240 Mosquito? And I didn't even know the poony fought, So 1:16:35.280 --> 1:16:35.959 I'm sorry. 1:16:36.200 --> 1:16:38.880 I love Poomie. I'm president of the goddamned Bank Club 1:16:38.880 --> 1:16:39.600 and I didn't even know it. 1:16:39.840 --> 1:16:43.000 Five belts, five Yeah, five belts. 1:16:43.040 --> 1:16:46.000 I guarantee you on the eleventh bet belt, he'll get 1:16:46.000 --> 1:16:46.479 into the US. 1:16:48.960 --> 1:16:50.800 I got to run, I gotta get out of it. 1:16:50.880 --> 1:16:53.680 But I love you guys. Jason loved to Handdode. 1:16:54.360 --> 1:16:55.040 Can you keep that? 1:16:55.160 --> 1:16:57.920 Can you keep your brother in check? Please? Nope? Is 1:16:57.960 --> 1:16:58.439 that possible? 1:16:59.200 --> 1:17:03.600 Impossible? Much love, Raymond, I'll talk to you. 1:17:04.040 --> 1:17:07.040 Ray Long comitted every week here on the Anakin Flooring Podcast. 1:17:07.400 --> 1:17:11.200 We pushed Ray back a few minutes for Platinum Mike Perry, 1:17:11.360 --> 1:17:14.120 So yeah, he touched on a few different things quickly. 1:17:14.160 --> 1:17:16.000 I guess if we could just spend a minute here. 1:17:17.080 --> 1:17:19.400 We had Demitrius Johnson on the Ankin Flooring Podcast a 1:17:19.400 --> 1:17:23.960 few weeks ago. George Saint Pierre and Demetrius Johnson, I 1:17:23.960 --> 1:17:26.960 think are the only two names that are on every 1:17:27.080 --> 1:17:30.840 unanimous MMA Mount Rushmore, Kenny. Some people don't include John 1:17:30.920 --> 1:17:35.320 Jones and Anderson Silva because of some extracurricular transgressions. 1:17:35.560 --> 1:17:38.600 Right, but DJ Man. 1:17:38.560 --> 1:17:40.920 Right, for a lot of people, this is the greatest 1:17:41.120 --> 1:17:43.280 MMA fighter of all time, and there's certainly a case 1:17:43.320 --> 1:17:44.920 to be made, and he's going into the UFC Hall 1:17:44.920 --> 1:17:45.639 of Fame this summer. 1:17:46.040 --> 1:17:46.200 Yeah. 1:17:46.280 --> 1:17:49.760 Absolutely brilliant mixed martial artist who was able to do 1:17:49.840 --> 1:17:53.519 it all and do it all at an extremely high level, 1:17:53.600 --> 1:17:55.960 and when he was at his best, there was no 1:17:56.040 --> 1:18:00.280 competition for him. He was just that good. So and 1:18:00.320 --> 1:18:02.639 I think that you know, if you were a smart 1:18:02.680 --> 1:18:05.160 mixed martial artist coming up, that was the guy that 1:18:05.200 --> 1:18:07.679 you were studying to learn from of how to put 1:18:07.680 --> 1:18:11.439 it all together. He was constantly in search of getting better. 1:18:12.680 --> 1:18:15.120 And yeah, one of the greatest mixed martial artists that 1:18:15.200 --> 1:18:17.760 I have ever seen. Uh And it was great to 1:18:17.760 --> 1:18:20.599 see him get inducted. Man absolutely deserved and to see 1:18:20.600 --> 1:18:22.840 that big smile on his face and him there with 1:18:22.880 --> 1:18:26.439 his beautiful family was super super cool man Jay. 1:18:26.960 --> 1:18:29.200 One of the best things to happen to the UFC 1:18:29.280 --> 1:18:31.639 in twenty twenty six has been the twenty five thousand 1:18:31.720 --> 1:18:34.760 dollars finish bonus. So at least for fighters like case 1:18:34.920 --> 1:18:38.760 O'Neil and Terence McKinny, maybe you're not sitting in the 1:18:38.840 --> 1:18:42.360 back hoping that a bunch of decisions follow your fight. 1:18:42.600 --> 1:18:45.800 And every fight on the main car was obviously a 1:18:45.880 --> 1:18:51.519 finish right Terrence McKinny in twenty four seconds, Casey O'Neil 1:18:51.960 --> 1:18:54.439 huge win in three minutes and eleven seconds. But the 1:18:54.479 --> 1:18:57.040 one hundred thousand dollars bonuses go to Joe Piper and 1:18:57.080 --> 1:19:00.479 Alexa Grosso. Your boy Nacho gets one hundred thousand dollars bonus. 1:19:00.479 --> 1:19:02.439 Perhaps that softens the blow a little bit as his 1:19:02.479 --> 1:19:05.200 faith does. You know what, though, It's interesting because I 1:19:05.200 --> 1:19:07.400 talked a lot about this earlier on a show about 1:19:07.400 --> 1:19:10.160 Ignacio Bob Mundes John and not in the context of 1:19:10.200 --> 1:19:12.439 your sort of statement about it's a two year set 1:19:12.439 --> 1:19:15.080 back if you lose in a championship opportunities there because 1:19:15.120 --> 1:19:17.840 Nacho wasn't there, But he loses to Physiv back in July, 1:19:18.200 --> 1:19:21.000 and now he loses here regardless of circumstance, fence grab, 1:19:21.040 --> 1:19:21.559 whatever it is. 1:19:21.840 --> 1:19:23.639 So now it's back to back losses for Nacho. 1:19:23.720 --> 1:19:27.200 For a guy in Bala Muhammad's camp, you know, Bloso, 1:19:27.400 --> 1:19:29.080 his mentor that he wants to sort of you know, 1:19:29.200 --> 1:19:32.640 on a championship trajectory perhaps or championship track, trying to 1:19:32.640 --> 1:19:34.519 do that at one fifty five with back to back losses, 1:19:34.520 --> 1:19:36.160 how many fights does he have to win now to 1:19:36.200 --> 1:19:36.599 win to day? 1:19:36.680 --> 1:19:38.760 We have five straight fights to sniff a champions or 1:19:38.760 --> 1:19:39.200 whatever I mean. 1:19:39.360 --> 1:19:41.120 So now a guy who's on the cusp of the 1:19:41.200 --> 1:19:43.400 rankings or whatever it is, takes a fight against. 1:19:43.120 --> 1:19:44.479 Phaziv and Physige's backyard. 1:19:44.520 --> 1:19:47.360 If Physiv was fucking ready that night, right, and and 1:19:47.520 --> 1:19:50.120 now this result as a minus three hundred favorite or 1:19:50.120 --> 1:19:52.720 whatever it is. It's a really tough result, regardless of 1:19:52.720 --> 1:19:55.640 one hundred grand in the bank for his second kid 1:19:55.680 --> 1:19:58.960 just arrived. Yeah, Kenny, that's really an interesting point, right 1:19:59.000 --> 1:20:01.840 that what you think about out he got the absolute 1:20:01.840 --> 1:20:04.679 best of Rafael Fhazeve and Azerbaijan, and maybe he doesn't 1:20:04.680 --> 1:20:06.920 beat physique more than once or twice out of ten times. 1:20:06.960 --> 1:20:11.400 But a very challenging stylistic matchup four Nacho and then this, right, 1:20:11.479 --> 1:20:13.880 it might take him five wins just to get back 1:20:13.920 --> 1:20:14.960 to the top fifteen. 1:20:15.760 --> 1:20:16.040 Yeah. 1:20:16.080 --> 1:20:20.559 Man, this division is absolutely insane, and you know, timing 1:20:20.640 --> 1:20:23.559 is everything. Fighting the guys at the right time or 1:20:23.560 --> 1:20:27.280 the wrong time, you know, is a difficult thing in 1:20:27.280 --> 1:20:30.559 this sport and it can change a lot of things. 1:20:31.439 --> 1:20:34.040 So yeah, unfortunate result there for Ignacio. And again I 1:20:34.160 --> 1:20:36.840 just keep going back to those damn files during the fight. 1:20:36.920 --> 1:20:38.320 But he'll be back. 1:20:38.360 --> 1:20:40.680 He'll be back, yeah, John, And I just have to 1:20:40.680 --> 1:20:43.439 say I watch most of the show, but Alexa fucking 1:20:43.640 --> 1:20:45.920 h Rosso, Like, I just have to say, right, and 1:20:45.960 --> 1:20:48.040 I said earlier on a program I was like, interestingly 1:20:48.120 --> 1:20:49.960 enough in her career, I feel like at certain times 1:20:50.080 --> 1:20:53.680 she's been slightly overrated and at times been massively underrated, 1:20:53.720 --> 1:20:55.120 you know what I mean in a weird way, and 1:20:55.200 --> 1:20:57.360 like the three fights with Schevchenko, it's just been sort 1:20:57.360 --> 1:20:59.479 of an inching career. But the ferocity with which she 1:20:59.640 --> 1:21:03.240 finished that fight, you know, as an underdog right back 1:21:03.240 --> 1:21:05.800 in the championship mix, as I see her sitting next 1:21:05.840 --> 1:21:09.280 and doing in the broadcasting booth like bowed across. 1:21:09.360 --> 1:21:13.320 I mean like I'm just blown away at that performance. 1:21:13.520 --> 1:21:19.280 Yeah, that's what that want. And yeah, I mean back 1:21:19.320 --> 1:21:21.479 in a big way. Doesn't even begin to describe it. 1:21:21.520 --> 1:21:24.760 And not as though her legacy Jay needed validation, but 1:21:25.200 --> 1:21:28.639 look who she just beat as an underdog, Macy Barber 1:21:28.760 --> 1:21:31.800 won seven consecutive fights, and to beat her like that, 1:21:32.240 --> 1:21:35.120 my word. Thanks everybody with a slive for the anticonforming 1:21:35.160 --> 1:21:39.080 podcast here, powered by all the smoke fights. 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For 1:22:41.160 --> 1:22:44.040 additional terms and responsible gaming resources, see Sportsbook dot draftings 1:22:44.040 --> 1:22:49.280 dot com, slash promos, limited time off all right UFC 1:22:49.320 --> 1:22:55.559 Fight Night in Moykano versus Duncan beckins this weekend, Kenny. 1:22:55.640 --> 1:22:58.680 The first pick of three on the main card is 1:22:58.720 --> 1:22:59.520 it banhamweight. 1:23:00.640 --> 1:23:05.799 And I'm having a hard time pronouncing not ethan Ewing 1:23:06.160 --> 1:23:10.360 but Halfayel s Stavam or stay bomb or s day 1:23:10.400 --> 1:23:13.160 bond or stay bomb. So I don't know, guys, if 1:23:13.160 --> 1:23:16.120 it's b's or bees or n's or ends. I have 1:23:16.240 --> 1:23:20.040 the file for you, but it's ethan Ewing minus one 1:23:20.160 --> 1:23:24.320 forty eight and the Brazilian Halfayel StEB bomb is plus 1:23:24.400 --> 1:23:27.320 one twenty four. Cody, you can you can trigger that 1:23:27.400 --> 1:23:28.559 file at any time. 1:23:29.720 --> 1:23:33.440 My name is Halfayel, Makupa is Stibham. 1:23:34.280 --> 1:23:35.840 My name is half a l. 1:23:36.120 --> 1:23:40.400 Makupa is Stibham, StEB them, StEB them. 1:23:40.640 --> 1:23:42.639 Okay, all right, okay. 1:23:43.880 --> 1:23:46.559 So this would be a situation where I would voice 1:23:46.600 --> 1:23:49.760 that feature for the UFC and then almost follow it 1:23:49.840 --> 1:23:52.519 up with like, hey, these are my phonetics, just so 1:23:52.560 --> 1:23:56.040 you know, because I've listed the file one hundred times. Anyway, 1:23:56.760 --> 1:24:00.479 ethan Ewing's minus one forty eight and the opponent plus 1:24:00.479 --> 1:24:02.960 one twenty four. Part of the reason we're picking this 1:24:03.000 --> 1:24:06.639 fight is because we're wildly curious to see exactly what 1:24:06.720 --> 1:24:08.880 Ethan Ewing is. I mean, he started his pro career 1:24:08.960 --> 1:24:11.639 zero and two, he's won nine in a row, steps 1:24:11.720 --> 1:24:14.960 up on the shortest of notice to beat Malcolm well 1:24:15.040 --> 1:24:18.200 Maker at Madison Square Garden, Kenny. He's less than minus 1:24:18.240 --> 1:24:19.120 one fifty this weekend. 1:24:19.160 --> 1:24:19.639 Your thoughts. 1:24:19.840 --> 1:24:22.479 See, I'm still disturbed by the spelling of Ethan. I 1:24:22.840 --> 1:24:25.200 don't like it. I don't like that spelling. But no, 1:24:25.360 --> 1:24:27.920 this kid can fight. Man, he really can't fight. 1:24:28.840 --> 1:24:30.960 You know, he looks like he's older, but he's only 1:24:31.080 --> 1:24:34.040 twenty eight years old. But you know, has a bunch 1:24:34.040 --> 1:24:37.519 of finishes out of those nine wins. 1:24:37.600 --> 1:24:39.479 And the way he puts it all together. 1:24:39.479 --> 1:24:41.600 We were just talking about Demetrius Johnson and how he 1:24:41.640 --> 1:24:44.240 puts it all together. Ethan Ewing knows how to do 1:24:44.320 --> 1:24:48.000 that as well. I think he's a sophisticated striker, really 1:24:48.040 --> 1:24:49.960 knows how to make you miss and then he counters 1:24:49.960 --> 1:24:52.880 with not just one shot, two three, four strikes are 1:24:52.880 --> 1:24:55.519 coming at you right after that. And the way that 1:24:55.600 --> 1:24:58.559 he beat well Maker, I think is what makes it 1:24:58.640 --> 1:25:04.040 so impressive. He is a sophisticated striker, He is an 1:25:04.080 --> 1:25:08.720 intelligent fighter, and I think that, Uh, he's got to 1:25:08.760 --> 1:25:13.200 be careful on the ground with Istebam. But because Stepham's 1:25:13.280 --> 1:25:17.639 so good at taking the back, he puts that body lock, 1:25:18.360 --> 1:25:20.280 knows how to control and beat you up from that 1:25:20.320 --> 1:25:23.160 position and slows you down. So for me, I think 1:25:23.200 --> 1:25:27.240 it comes down to you Ing stopping the takedowns, keeping 1:25:27.280 --> 1:25:30.559 him at a distance, and continuing to fire away with 1:25:30.600 --> 1:25:33.280 those combinations and take away the confidence. 1:25:32.800 --> 1:25:35.800 Early of the Brazilian fighter. But I like Ethan in 1:25:35.840 --> 1:25:36.439 the spot man. 1:25:36.479 --> 1:25:39.240 I think he's a fantastic fighter and maybe doesn't have 1:25:39.320 --> 1:25:41.960 the same kind of record as this very good fighter 1:25:42.000 --> 1:25:42.800 from Novouno. 1:25:43.600 --> 1:25:45.599 But I like you Jay. 1:25:45.640 --> 1:25:48.240 I can see the headline on MMA junking. Kenny Florian 1:25:48.360 --> 1:25:52.000 says Ethan Ewing has an old face, right, I mean 1:25:52.960 --> 1:25:54.880 saying that he's got an old face, right, that he 1:25:54.920 --> 1:25:58.559 doesn't look twenty eight. You know, it's like with that 1:25:58.680 --> 1:26:00.360 am at the end, it feels like people that's a 1:26:00.479 --> 1:26:06.280 Valentine's Day with an M instead of an MM. Is 1:26:06.360 --> 1:26:09.240 Kenny mispronouncing this guy's name? Hey, I you know, I 1:26:09.360 --> 1:26:11.559 never like betting against a guy who's undefeated, but it'll 1:26:11.560 --> 1:26:13.480 be interesting to see if this is one of the 1:26:13.520 --> 1:26:15.880 bets when Kenny does place your bets, because I have 1:26:15.920 --> 1:26:16.960 a feeling it won't be. 1:26:17.600 --> 1:26:17.800 Yeah. 1:26:17.960 --> 1:26:20.880 Stebam is fourteen to oh three and zero in the UFC, 1:26:21.080 --> 1:26:24.200 but if tapology is accurate, he did missweight in two 1:26:24.240 --> 1:26:27.000 of those three UFC wins. All right co main event 1:26:27.000 --> 1:26:31.839 as showweight seventh rank Tabitha be Ricci baby Shark minus 1:26:31.880 --> 1:26:37.320 one fifteen number three Viena kakaraj Doba minus one oh 1:26:37.360 --> 1:26:40.120 five reaches won three or four Ken Flow enters this 1:26:40.160 --> 1:26:42.120 spot following the biggest win of her career stoppage of 1:26:42.120 --> 1:26:44.559 the Man of Hebas last July, and Abu Dabi now 1:26:44.600 --> 1:26:47.920 taking on the recent world title challenger Kaka ra. 1:26:48.640 --> 1:26:51.840 Vena Chingi Dova. Ken Flow go Ahead. 1:26:52.960 --> 1:26:55.080 This was a tricky one for me, and I felt 1:26:55.080 --> 1:26:57.280 like it got more confusing when it went back and 1:26:57.320 --> 1:26:58.080 watched their fights. 1:26:58.080 --> 1:26:59.800 I'm like, who the hell is gonna win this? 1:27:00.479 --> 1:27:05.760 You know, Gingidoba I think is probably the better grappler overall. 1:27:06.320 --> 1:27:07.000 I think where she. 1:27:07.000 --> 1:27:10.720 May struggle, however, is with her takedown game. Ricci has, 1:27:11.200 --> 1:27:13.519 you know, a lot of momentum going her way right now. 1:27:13.560 --> 1:27:16.320 I think she's gaining confidence as a result. I think 1:27:16.360 --> 1:27:19.160 she's certainly gonna be the better striker, the sharper striker. 1:27:20.280 --> 1:27:25.040 She just can't let the pressure of Gingidoba get to her, 1:27:25.240 --> 1:27:27.360 you know, because you know Genidoba's going to try to 1:27:27.360 --> 1:27:30.000 back her up, try to bullyer, you know, make the fight, 1:27:30.880 --> 1:27:32.519 you know, a close one, try to get up against 1:27:32.520 --> 1:27:33.760 the cage, all that stuff and. 1:27:33.720 --> 1:27:34.400 Make it ugly. 1:27:35.200 --> 1:27:37.240 But Ricchie's good on the ground as well. I don't 1:27:37.240 --> 1:27:40.000 know if she's as good as Gingidoba, but I do 1:27:40.200 --> 1:27:43.160 like her overall here. I think that, you know, this 1:27:43.200 --> 1:27:45.800 momentum has served her well. I think that she's going 1:27:45.880 --> 1:27:48.640 to be the faster, better striker. But I think it 1:27:48.680 --> 1:27:51.160 all comes down to how good her wrestling defense is 1:27:51.240 --> 1:27:52.040 if it holds up. 1:27:52.479 --> 1:27:55.320 I like her in this spot to win by decision. Jay. 1:27:55.360 --> 1:27:59.320 Someone in the comments said, you look like former Massachusetts 1:27:59.360 --> 1:28:02.000 Governor John Carry and. 1:28:01.920 --> 1:28:03.760 I can't come back from that now. 1:28:03.920 --> 1:28:06.160 I know it's the funnies shit ever, because my hair 1:28:06.240 --> 1:28:08.880 is a little long and either shaded, and I'm almost 1:28:08.960 --> 1:28:09.759 fucking fifty. 1:28:09.840 --> 1:28:10.640 It's hilarious. 1:28:10.880 --> 1:28:14.840 Yeah, John, for those of you that don't know, and Cody, 1:28:14.880 --> 1:28:17.640 you could chase a fucking image, right, lazy bet m 1:28:18.000 --> 1:28:20.800 that's fucking hilarious, and I just don't even know what 1:28:20.840 --> 1:28:23.880 to say. It's like it's like it's I'm kind of offend, 1:28:24.040 --> 1:28:26.720 but it's kind of compliment. You know, I'm offended. As 1:28:26.760 --> 1:28:31.840 your twin brother. I'm gonna go follow lazy bed m 1:28:31.960 --> 1:28:34.880 m a as you should. But hey, I will Governor 1:28:34.960 --> 1:28:37.120 John Kerry. But yeah, Jay, like you need to go 1:28:37.200 --> 1:28:40.360 see Barbara to the Stars, Johnny like yesterday. 1:28:40.439 --> 1:28:41.320 Huh, well you don't. 1:28:41.320 --> 1:28:43.200 We got a busy week next week with the PG 1:28:43.280 --> 1:28:47.400 have playoff and fucking dirty boxing. There are hats that 1:28:48.840 --> 1:28:52.920 team I could get a little bro No, I'm talking 1:28:54.400 --> 1:28:57.360 for our bar Mitzvah or benet mitzvah. The theme right 1:28:57.400 --> 1:28:59.639 like you have a theme was hats you're just gonna 1:28:59.640 --> 1:29:03.160 put it. I can put this fucking Drake may helmet 1:29:03.160 --> 1:29:04.519 on that you gave me. 1:29:04.600 --> 1:29:07.960 I'd like you to maybe for you know, I will 1:29:08.120 --> 1:29:08.719 put one. 1:29:08.560 --> 1:29:11.000 Thousand dollars at play and place your bets, but quickly 1:29:11.040 --> 1:29:13.519 on this comine event because that happens to be part 1:29:13.520 --> 1:29:16.320 of what I'll get into later. I just again, I 1:29:16.560 --> 1:29:19.200 like the younger fighter, sort of someone who I believe 1:29:19.240 --> 1:29:21.000 is on their way up the mountain, versus someone who 1:29:21.040 --> 1:29:22.519 I think is on the other side, and anyone who 1:29:22.520 --> 1:29:23.000 would listen. 1:29:23.080 --> 1:29:24.920 I don't bet MMA, but anyone who would listen to me. 1:29:25.000 --> 1:29:27.559 Last week in Vegas for PGF, I said, I'm looking 1:29:27.600 --> 1:29:31.479 at Joe Pifer plus money here. Look Israel very well 1:29:31.520 --> 1:29:33.160 could have won the fight with leg kick. Maybe keep 1:29:33.240 --> 1:29:37.040 kicking the leg. But I love Richie the spot coming 1:29:37.080 --> 1:29:39.280 off that knockout against that man a he bus last 1:29:39.320 --> 1:29:41.920 him out. I just Jenji Doba had write the opportunity 1:29:41.960 --> 1:29:43.960 last time out but lost to Mackenzie Dern. I just 1:29:44.080 --> 1:29:47.240 thirty seven years old versus thirty one. Ricchi's sort of 1:29:47.360 --> 1:29:49.800 very been with Callum Walsh for a long time, who's 1:29:49.920 --> 1:29:52.200 very much embedded in this whole UFC world. I just 1:29:52.240 --> 1:29:55.000 think Tabitha that's the right time for her and a 1:29:55.080 --> 1:29:57.599 pick them fight. I like her quite a bit. Couldn't 1:29:57.600 --> 1:29:59.880 find a prop by decision, Kenny, I hear you there. 1:30:00.080 --> 1:30:02.120 I just I don't you know. I would think Jenji 1:30:02.120 --> 1:30:04.479 Domba would need to submit Richie and I don't see 1:30:04.479 --> 1:30:07.519 that happen. Yeah, Jay, you were certainly on Joe Pifer. 1:30:07.520 --> 1:30:10.439 He wouldn't leave me alone on Saturday, right, I'm writ 1:30:10.479 --> 1:30:12.920 and back like yeah, I just think is he sort 1:30:12.920 --> 1:30:14.439 of back up against the proverbial wall. 1:30:14.479 --> 1:30:16.000 I expect his best. I love Pifer two. 1:30:16.000 --> 1:30:17.200 I don't know what to tell you in Jay's just 1:30:17.200 --> 1:30:19.280 like Pifer plus money due What am I missing? 1:30:19.320 --> 1:30:19.719 Anyway? 1:30:20.160 --> 1:30:22.840 Let us get to the main event at lightweight hits 1:30:22.960 --> 1:30:28.160 two American Top Team fighters against one another. Chris Duncan 1:30:28.320 --> 1:30:32.799 minus one ninety two, tenth ranked Hanato Moikano is plus 1:30:32.840 --> 1:30:37.519 one sixty. Kenny Moykano gets the red quarter. He has 1:30:37.600 --> 1:30:39.879 dropped two in a row since the four fight Serge 1:30:40.040 --> 1:30:42.600 Short Notice title fight against Islama Kasha, more recently the 1:30:42.640 --> 1:30:45.479 lost to Banil Daryush. Now he draws the streaking Scott 1:30:45.560 --> 1:30:48.240 Chris Duncan, who has his own four fight winning streak 1:30:48.280 --> 1:30:49.040 in to who do you love? 1:30:49.080 --> 1:30:49.920 In the main event ken. 1:30:49.760 --> 1:30:52.719 Play Yeah, two team two eighths going at it. Both 1:30:52.880 --> 1:30:56.360 very good grapplers. You know, I think that Moykano has 1:30:56.400 --> 1:30:59.080 faced the tougher competition, no question about that. As you 1:30:59.120 --> 1:31:02.719 go back and watch their fights, has some really good wins. 1:31:03.680 --> 1:31:08.120 And you know, I think that where he may suffer 1:31:08.120 --> 1:31:10.600 in this fight is with the athleticism of Duncan. I 1:31:10.640 --> 1:31:13.759 think Duncan's the better athlete, and I think that matters 1:31:13.840 --> 1:31:17.320 because I think Moykano's best chance at winning this fight, 1:31:18.680 --> 1:31:20.960 although he's got some power, is on the ground if 1:31:20.960 --> 1:31:23.720 he's able to take Duncan down, and I think he 1:31:23.880 --> 1:31:27.000 can do that, and I think he'll be a major problem. 1:31:27.000 --> 1:31:29.760 We saw what he did against Ben Wall, said Deny, 1:31:29.840 --> 1:31:32.360 when he gets on top, I mean he he's. 1:31:32.200 --> 1:31:33.320 A very good grappler. 1:31:33.360 --> 1:31:36.240 I just think against Duncan, taking him down, keeping the 1:31:36.320 --> 1:31:38.920 position there, I think is gonna be tough. I think 1:31:38.920 --> 1:31:41.600 he's gonna be slower than Duncan, which can post some 1:31:41.680 --> 1:31:47.479 problems for him. So I like Duncan here, and this 1:31:47.520 --> 1:31:49.960 guy has proven his toughness time and time again. I 1:31:49.960 --> 1:31:52.719 don't think he wants to brawl too much with someone 1:31:52.760 --> 1:31:55.439 like moy Kano, but if he needs to, I like 1:31:55.520 --> 1:31:56.639 his chances there as well. 1:31:57.880 --> 1:31:59.720 All right, Ja, do you have anything on the main 1:31:59.720 --> 1:32:01.040 event or can I get to play Schurettes? 1:32:01.360 --> 1:32:01.519 No? 1:32:01.640 --> 1:32:02.760 Get yeah, let's move it on. 1:32:02.760 --> 1:32:04.680 I guess you're probably gonna place a bit. 1:32:04.680 --> 1:32:06.519 But I like my guy money Moi Kano, So a 1:32:06.520 --> 1:32:09.320 little bias there, yeah, or bias that's why I didn't 1:32:09.360 --> 1:32:11.760 see you all right place schab Betts brought you by 1:32:11.840 --> 1:32:15.240 John Anick dot com where we are closing the merchandise store. 1:32:15.240 --> 1:32:19.280 So promo code UFC three twenty seven we'll get you 1:32:19.400 --> 1:32:22.759 twenty percent off through that live event on April eleventh. 1:32:22.800 --> 1:32:24.439 The store will be open at John Anick dot com. 1:32:24.439 --> 1:32:27.320 We do have future plans on the merchandise front rest assured, 1:32:27.520 --> 1:32:30.280 but that store will be closing. 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Not too much damage sustained. 1:33:01.680 --> 1:33:04.960 Minus three oh seven ninety seven is your year to 1:33:05.160 --> 1:33:08.439 date figure. Jason Anik has not been betting every card. 1:33:08.520 --> 1:33:12.559 He is plus eight hundred dollars on the year Ken Flow, 1:33:13.240 --> 1:33:18.000 you get one thousand bucks UFC Fight Night Mooykanto versus Duncan. 1:33:18.439 --> 1:33:19.439 The floor is yours. 1:33:19.800 --> 1:33:22.479 I got a little surprise for you, Jay. I'm gonna 1:33:22.520 --> 1:33:23.599 go ewing here. 1:33:23.680 --> 1:33:28.559 I'm gonna go three hundred buckeroos on Ethan Ewing if 1:33:28.680 --> 1:33:31.559 when ewing and Uh, I. 1:33:31.560 --> 1:33:36.200 Give you another seven hundred on our girl, Tabitha Ricci. 1:33:36.680 --> 1:33:40.360 Oh wow, Kenny, It'll be interesting to see who tails you. 1:33:40.920 --> 1:33:43.519 I'm not necessarily relevant, but my I was gonna put 1:33:43.520 --> 1:33:45.000 a whole thousand on Tabitha Ricci. 1:33:45.520 --> 1:33:47.599 Wow. But ultimately I'm gonna look at some props. 1:33:47.600 --> 1:33:50.040 Tabitha by decision I couldn't find an odd but Ricci 1:33:50.120 --> 1:33:52.320 by decision I think jen Gi Dopa is tough enough 1:33:52.360 --> 1:33:54.720 not to necessarily get put out in three rounds, so 1:33:54.960 --> 1:33:57.360 you'll get a more favorable number than the minus one 1:33:57.439 --> 1:34:00.920 fifteen if you look at by decision. I also might 1:34:01.000 --> 1:34:05.000 peek at Tabitha with a later round knockout, perhaps like 1:34:05.600 --> 1:34:07.800 the third round knock or whatever. But I just loved 1:34:07.800 --> 1:34:10.840 Tabitha Ricci in this spot despite being a fan of 1:34:10.920 --> 1:34:11.240 John g. 1:34:11.400 --> 1:34:13.640 Doba and John, thank you for not playing the file and. 1:34:13.720 --> 1:34:15.639 Cody, can you probably play the file again, because. 1:34:17.160 --> 1:34:21.599 Wait, are you asking him to No, I'm shocked. You're 1:34:21.640 --> 1:34:23.840 like a Cody since was fighting this. 1:34:27.439 --> 1:34:30.559 Don't funk out of here, and I'm repping the Wolf. 1:34:30.760 --> 1:34:32.320 I'm repping my guy Wolf. 1:34:32.760 --> 1:34:35.439 Okay, Rob Perez, Dirty Boxing April tenth, and those were 1:34:36.000 --> 1:34:37.640 anyone who's going to be in Miami though for the 1:34:37.680 --> 1:34:40.439 UFC three twenty seven on April eleventh, Dirty Boxing in 1:34:40.520 --> 1:34:43.240 Miami the night before, tickets won't be as expensive as 1:34:43.240 --> 1:34:45.120 they will for the UFC James L. 1:34:45.200 --> 1:34:45.639 Knight Center. 1:34:45.680 --> 1:34:49.240 Whatever come through anyway, nicely done, We will see that. 1:34:53.960 --> 1:34:56.000 For John must be for you. I didn't call for it. 1:34:56.000 --> 1:34:58.400 I didn't put it in the rundown, Jane. Nicely done. 1:34:58.439 --> 1:35:01.640 And yes, those propositions on ten Tabatha Ricci oftentimes not 1:35:01.680 --> 1:35:04.040 available until later in the week. We tape on a Monday, 1:35:04.120 --> 1:35:06.120 so uh a thousand bucks on Reach. We'll see how 1:35:06.120 --> 1:35:08.040 it goes. Jay, Uh go get a haircut. 1:35:08.120 --> 1:35:10.160 I was gonna say Jay's been hot, so that gives 1:35:10.160 --> 1:35:12.200 me a little more confidence on my Ricci picks. 1:35:12.280 --> 1:35:15.920 He has had a good You still can't afford a haircut. 1:35:15.520 --> 1:35:20.040 But I think I'm gonna get better hair the top. 1:35:20.600 --> 1:35:22.840 That's all right now that you fix it a little bit, 1:35:22.920 --> 1:35:25.639 but better than John because. 1:35:25.400 --> 1:35:26.759 You have so many female viewers. 1:35:26.840 --> 1:35:33.800 Right, get the fuck out of here, Mail, Yeah, you 1:35:33.840 --> 1:35:36.360 know you're kicked me out to your little clothes, you know, 1:35:37.240 --> 1:35:38.400 go ahead, kick. 1:35:38.240 --> 1:35:40.480 Me out and do a little fucking side by side. 1:35:40.280 --> 1:35:44.840 Right, Cody, can you get him out of here? 1:35:44.920 --> 1:35:47.439 Thank you Jay at Boston and on Instagram if you 1:35:47.479 --> 1:35:51.280 want more of that noise. Thank you to our guest 1:35:51.320 --> 1:35:55.639 today Joe Pifer, Platinum, Mike Perry, Ray Longo, Jason Andik. 1:35:55.680 --> 1:36:00.360 Thanks to our producer Cody Merrill, the great Nathan Ronson 1:36:00.400 --> 1:36:02.639 and everybody else behind the scenes at all the smoke fight. 1:36:03.000 --> 1:36:06.880 Thank you all for applying to be our intern no 1:36:07.040 --> 1:36:09.919 thank you all for subscribe to the Attica Florian podcast. 1:36:10.200 --> 1:36:12.519 We will run the internships weep stakes back, but that 1:36:12.680 --> 1:36:15.719 is a story for another day. We will be back 1:36:15.760 --> 1:36:19.760 with you on Wednesday, April eighth. That will be the 1:36:19.840 --> 1:36:23.040 date upon which we bring you our UFC three twenty 1:36:23.040 --> 1:36:27.280 seven preview two title fights going down in Miami, and 1:36:27.320 --> 1:36:30.080 we look forward to bringing all of that your way. 1:36:30.120 --> 1:36:33.040 With that for Kenny Flora and everybody behind the scenes, John, 1:36:33.040 --> 1:36:34.640 I am saying so long for now we will talk to 1:36:34.640 --> 1:36:36.280 you in about eight days. Until then, I have a 1:36:36.320 --> 1:36:38.400 great day and a better evening. Go get yourself a 1:36:38.400 --> 1:36:38.840 big Mac. 1:36:38.880 --> 1:36:39.360 You'll later