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Speaker 1: Haha. I called it.

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Speaker 2: This is Eli Sussman here on fish Bites recording episode

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Speaker 2: number fifty eight for you in a festive mood, The

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Speaker 2: Marlins have agreed to a one year deal with right

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Speaker 2: handed reliever Brandon Kinseler. If you have listened to recent

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Speaker 2: fish Bites episodes this offseason, all you have to do

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Speaker 2: was a big advocate for Brandon in the days leading

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Speaker 2: up to this deal. It had been he'd been suggested

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Speaker 2: as a legitimate target by Marlin's insider Craig Mish. And

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Speaker 2: then the news came on Saturday night, first from MLB

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Speaker 2: Networks John Hayman and was confirmed by Jesse Rodgers of ESPN.

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Speaker 2: But in the lead up to that, even on social

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Speaker 2: media at fizz Stripes, on Twitter and on Instagram, I

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Speaker 2: had been making the case that kinsel is arguably the

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Speaker 2: best reliever who was remaining on the free agent market

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Speaker 2: at that time, someone with closing experience, somebody who has

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Speaker 2: been in a lot of competitive situations. The last handful

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Speaker 2: of years. Without being too repetitive, I'm just going to

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Speaker 2: insert a clip right here from two episodes ago where

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Speaker 2: I compared Kinseler to some of the other lesser available

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Speaker 2: free agent relievers. Even as recently as last year, he

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Speaker 2: was pretty close to his peak form. He was doing

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Speaker 2: all the things that had made him successful in the

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Speaker 2: past handful of years. He has a sinker, changeup slider,

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Speaker 2: very occasionally a four seamer. As it dug into this,

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Speaker 2: I was actually kind of surprised that he throws as

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Speaker 2: somewhat of a junk baller because he doesn't really miss

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Speaker 2: a ton of bats. But his sinker actually averaged ninety

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Speaker 2: he throws almost as hard as Jeffers does, and at

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Speaker 2: least last year he threw slightly harder than Cody Allen does,

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Speaker 2: so that certainly doesn't match the perception that those both

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Speaker 1: I like him a lot.

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Speaker 2: I think he's very clearly the best free agent reliever

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Speaker 2: remaining on the market, and we saw a lot of

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Speaker 2: Sergio Romo and weren't weren't willing to guarantee him five

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Speaker 2: So we'll see what their tolerance is for Kinsler. He

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Speaker 2: should be slightly cheaper than Romo. I'm not totally sure

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Speaker 2: on that. Again, the impetus for this whole conversation is

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Speaker 2: that the Marlins are spending less on their twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: They should be willing to bid against just about any

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Speaker 2: other team that's still looking for relief help. But Kinsler

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Speaker 2: is a guy that, just based on his most recent year,

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Speaker 2: is his career overall, He's going to draw interest from

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Speaker 2: been in the past before with the Cubs, he also

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's a guy that in most of his

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Speaker 2: in the offseason to fill a similar role on the

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Speaker 2: the Majors. Kinsler has forty nine career saves, including at

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Speaker 2: He's a native of Nevada, born in Las Vegas, went

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Speaker 2: And that's why I like to deal a lot. Because

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Speaker 2: has been really inconsistent offensively for much of his career,

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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden last year he made some

435
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Speaker 2: interesting changes to his swing and he hid a career

436
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Speaker 2: high eleven home runs at age thirty two. With the Yankees,

437
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 2: he missed some time with injury. He didn't even start

438
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Speaker 2: the year on their active roster. He kind of got

439
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 2: that opportunity, ironically, as a result of Giancarlo.

440
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Speaker 1: Stanton getting injured.

441
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 2: Stanton getting called up in the first place a decade

442
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Speaker 2: ago with the Marlins was perhaps the reason why maybe

443
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 2: was expendable to the Marlins at that time. It traded

444
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Speaker 2: to the Padres, and almost a decade later, he gets

445
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: an unlikely third fourth chance. He gets one last opportunity

446
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 2: to impact in the majors because the injuries on the

447
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 2: Yankees outfield depth chart, and he really took advantage of

448
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 2: it to eighty five batting average, a three sixty four

449
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,479
Speaker 2: on base and the most surprising, a four to ninety

450
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: four slugging percentage way above league average as a hitter

451
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Speaker 2: in about a half season of major league time, worth

452
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Speaker 2: more than a win above replacement. So it's really surprising

453
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Speaker 2: at this point that he hasn't found a major league

454
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Speaker 2: deal coming off that kind of year that he had,

455
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Speaker 2: being thirty three years old, which is for most players

456
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 2: past their prime, but it's certainly not over the hill

457
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Speaker 2: in all situations. He seldom plays center fields.

458
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Speaker 1: At this stage of his career.

459
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Speaker 2: He did play a significant amount of that with the

460
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 2: Marlins just two years ago. This one is buried as

461
00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 2: a more unlikely reunion because maybe should be getting a

462
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 2: major league deal just based on the performance that he had,

463
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: and the Marlins already have a lot of outfield depth,

464
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Speaker 2: both in the majors and in TRIPAA just wanted to

465
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 2: throw his name out there because it is surprising that

466
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 2: he is still out there and this team, even with

467
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 2: the acquisition of Corey Dickerson. If you presume Brian Anderson

468
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 2: get shifted to the outfield that Garret Cooper will see

469
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Speaker 2: some time in the corners. There are still some question

470
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 2: marks as to whether they have enough lineups that are

471
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 2: going to have three quality outfielders in there all the

472
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 2: same time. A name to keep in mind, although an

473
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 2: extreme a long shot, Another one who is a long

474
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 2: shot in a very low priority would be Mike Donn.

475
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 2: Mike done the interesting trivia answer as to who has

476
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: the most relief appearances in Miami Marlins Florida Marlins history.

477
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 2: He pitched for the Majors, the team in the Majors

478
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: for six years twenty eleven to twenty sixteen. After that,

479
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: he once to the Rockies, and the Rockies gave him

480
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 2: a three year guaranteed deal for fairly big money, and

481
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 2: they got burned by it almost from the beginning. That

482
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 2: deal was a disaster for the Rockies, and it finished

483
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: off on a very low note with him putting up

484
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 2: a nine point zh er in twenty eighteen and then

485
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: the seven thirteen era in twenty nineteen. Even if you

486
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: make the adjustment for the high altitude of cors Fields,

487
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 2: that is just unimaginably awful overall, he missed a lot

488
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 2: of time with injuries in each of the last two years.

489
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: He is thirty four years old, turning thirty five in

490
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 2: meg and coming off those bad years. So more so

491
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: than even Phelps, he is a clear minor league deal

492
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: candidate and nothing more than that. You just take a

493
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 2: flyer on him and see what happens with the Marlins.

494
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: I think in hindsight you can appreciate him a little

495
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: bit more. When you pitch so many relief appearances in

496
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: close games, you're obviously going to blow some of those

497
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: situations and be remembered more so for your failures than

498
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 2: for your successes. On balance, he was fine. He was

499
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,719
Speaker 2: fine in the Marlins bullpen. He pitched against both righties

500
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: and against lefties and issued too many walks that got

501
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: very frustrating, pitching a lot of deep counts and getting

502
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 2: into trouble. But he kept the ball in the ballpark

503
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 2: and really the only exceptions to that in his career

504
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: were that last season with the Marlins a little bit

505
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 2: and at times with the Rockies well. As mentioned, the

506
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 2: Rockies had some there were some physical issues contributing to

507
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: his struggles. We believe as well. Super low priority for

508
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: done but as I said, the bullpen is there's still

509
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 2: some question marks about this bullpen, and it wouldn't hurt

510
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: to have some veterans waiting in the wings at Triple A, which.

511
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: It's and done. Could be one of those.

512
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: A couple more Derrek Dietrich, who has been spending a

513
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: lot of time in Miami this offseason. He had such

514
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 2: a bizarre year with the Reds in twenty nineteen, where

515
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 2: it got off to an excellent start after not even

516
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: getting a guaranteed year coming into the season. He had

517
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 2: to earn a spot on the roster, hit for terrific

518
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: power the first few months, and then cratered afterwards. There

519
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: was a minor injury that was affecting him, and there

520
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: was some bad luck as well. He had won of

521
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: the lowest batting averages on balls and play in recent

522
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 2: baseball history. Still finished with a very impressive isolated power

523
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: as an overall player, comfortably above league average as an

524
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 2: overall player. Still showed the willingness to go to multiple positions,

525
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: although based on what we saw with him in the

526
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 2: Marlins in twenty eighteen, you really want to keep him

527
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: in the infield if at all possible. He's going to

528
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,479
Speaker 2: be giving up too many runs if you try to

529
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: have him cover space in the outfield, So there are

530
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: some limitations there. And he had some off color comments

531
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: about the Marlins a year ago when things were going

532
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: really well for him and reporters approached him about how

533
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: the old core that the Marlins had was slowly disintegrating.

534
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: He mentioned how he was really satisfied to be with

535
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: a new team that played in a stadium that the

536
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: fans actually showed up, and how much he appreciated the

537
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 2: atmosphere with the Cincinnati Reds that wasn't the same that

538
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 2: he was used to with the Marlins, and he felt

539
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 2: more appreciated even as he struggled later in the year.

540
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess he wasn't getting as many media

541
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: requests in the second half of the year when he

542
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: can barely get off the bench. But I digress. Because

543
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: of those comments where he came off sounding bitter about

544
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 2: the divorce from the Fish, you can say this is

545
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: a pretty far long shot that he returns to the

546
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 2: team despite this six years of history that they have

547
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: between each other. The Marlins would likely be asking anybody

548
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,959
Speaker 2: at this stage of the offseason to report to Triple

549
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 2: A and with Dietrich that's something that he hasn't had

550
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: to do. Even that was a possibility for him last

551
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: year with the Reds, but ultimately, when he was healthy,

552
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 2: spent all his time in the major leagues, so I

553
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: don't think he would humble himself to come back to

554
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: the team that didn't want him in the first place.

555
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: And finally, the most polarizing of all these players, Hanley Ramirez,

556
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: a Marlin from two thousand and six through the middle

557
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: of twenty twelve, one of the best players in franchise

558
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: history at this stage of his career, thirty six years

559
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: old and still going. He hasn't played in the majors

560
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: since very early in the twenty nineteen season with the Indians,

561
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: got released, didn't get picked up. Overall, over the past

562
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: two years, only about two hundred and fifty played appearances

563
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 2: in the majors, where he was a below average hitter

564
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: a liability defensively, so you're not expecting much, but hanram

565
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 2: has still been staying loose in his native dr During

566
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: the regular season in the Dominican Winter League with Tigeris

567
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: del Lse, he played thirteen games, two seventy three, batting

568
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: average seven to sixteen ops. That's in a very picture

569
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: fernally league, so he was comfortably better than a league

570
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: average during their regular season. I don't have off his

571
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 2: postseason stats. At the moment, his team is making a

572
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: deep run into the playoffs, trying to get to the

573
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: Caribbean Series, and I know he's been prominently involved in that.

574
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 2: Not superstar production by any means, even adjusting for that league,

575
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: but with MLB active rosters expanding for twenty twenty from

576
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: twenty five men to twenty six, you have room for

577
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,719
Speaker 2: this kind of designated pinch hitter on your roster. As

578
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 2: things currently stand. With the Marlins, you got Harold Ramirez,

579
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: who is more likely going to serve in that kind

580
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 2: of role, a lot of pitch hitting opportunities, some occasional

581
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 2: starts against left handers, and I don't think at this

582
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 2: stage of his career you can make the case that

583
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 2: Hanley is a better overall player than Harold is. And

584
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: Harold is already pretty popular on the team. But you

585
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 2: have guys like Harold, other position players in the mixed

586
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: for roster spots like John Birdie, who has leaven Lewis Brinson,

587
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 2: all these guys with limited Major league track records. They

588
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 2: bring interesting skill sets to the table. In this kind

589
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 2: of year where the Marlins have still long term priorities,

590
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 2: they want to give these players consistent reps at the

591
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: major league level, but there does come a point where

592
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 2: you have to focus on winning games where you favorite

593
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 2: guys that may have more of a track record. My

594
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 2: best guess is that Hanley doesn't play another game in

595
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: the major leagues ever again, just because of the way

596
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 2: that his overall game has deteriorated because of age and

597
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 2: through the years He's had plenty of injuries pile up.

598
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna lie. He's just someone that will

599
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 2: always have a special place in my heart. I'm sure

600
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: many Marlins fans would agree with that. So if he

601
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 2: does show interests in playing affiliated ball this coming season,

602
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 2: I think the Marlins may want to at least do

603
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 2: their due diligence on what type of player he is

604
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 2: and how he could possibly fit on the roster in

605
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 2: a scenario where they have opportunities available. Here on the

606
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 2: Fifth Stripes Podcast, we do have a show that is

607
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 2: dedicated specifically to cover Marlin's minor leaguers earning their stripes.

608
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 2: As we move into this new regular season, that show

609
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: is going to be picking up in frequency again with

610
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 2: exclusive interviews and with plenty of banter about how prospects

611
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: are progressing within the farm system. I don't want to

612
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 2: step on their toes at all by lending too much

613
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 2: into the minor league stuff on this main Fish Bites show,

614
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: But there is some news from this past.

615
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 1: Week on the prospect side.

616
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Speaker 2: With Baseball America and MLB Pipeline, two of the more

617
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 2: reputable talent evaluating outlets that we have on a national

618
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 2: level updating their top one hundred MLB prospects list for

619
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: the new season, both of them listing five Marlins within

620
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 2: their top one hundred, putting the Marlins as one of

621
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: the few teams in the whole league that have that

622
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 2: much representation at the very top of the scale. With

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Speaker 2: Baseball America they ranked six to Do Sanchez number sixteen overall,

624
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: JJ Blade at forty six, Jesus Sanchez at fifty eight,

625
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 2: Edward Caprera at sixty eight, and Jazz Chisholm at eighty eight.

626
00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 2: With Pipeline, same five players, slightly different order. Was number

627
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Speaker 2: twenty two, Blade was number twenty eight overall. Heyesius Sanchez

628
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 2: number eighty overall, Edward Cabrera eighty five, Jazz Chisholm sixty six,

629
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Speaker 2: and fans love this stuff. That's why we cover it,

630
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: because the fans love when you rank players, and Marlins

631
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 2: fans during this rebuild, when you're coming off a couple

632
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: miserable years at the major league level. The silver lining

633
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 2: of that is that the team has been acquiring all

634
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 2: these interesting, young, controllable players through a variety of means,

635
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,919
Speaker 2: most obviously through trades, trading away some of their most

636
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: decorated position players that were part of the old Corps

637
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 2: six to oh. Sanchez was the centerpiece in the real

638
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 2: Mutoh trade, and now two years running, he has been

639
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 2: their top prospect in the entire organization and one of

640
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: the best right handed pitching prospects in all of baseball.

641
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: He's more or less exactly where he was ranked at

642
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 2: this time a year ago, coming off a very good

643
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 2: season at Double A Jacksonville, and fans love this seeing

644
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 2: that these players are being recognized for their talent, that

645
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 2: evaluators believe in their potential. I just want to provide

646
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 2: some proper context to it, because the top one hundred

647
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: is very arbitrary cutoff. I don't think people note that

648
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: they make a big fuss about the fact that certain

649
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 2: players are on the list, certain ones miss why players

650
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 2: are ranked ahead of one another. To put it all

651
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Speaker 2: in perspective, we've got thirty major league teams, some of

652
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Speaker 2: them with as many as seven or eight separate affiliate rosters.

653
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: The Marlins have one, two, three, four, five, six seven

654
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Speaker 2: affiliate rosters, including four in full season ball. Then including

655
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Speaker 2: the Dominican Summer League as well, thirty teams, six thousand

656
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Speaker 2: to seven thousand affiliated players at any one time. Between

657
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Speaker 2: all those thirty organizations, now those six or seven thousand

658
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Speaker 2: realistically the vast majority, then we'll never make it to

659
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Speaker 2: the major leagues less than a thousand to those at

660
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Speaker 2: any given time, and only a small percentage of that

661
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: will even have what I would consider steady major league

662
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Speaker 2: roles over the course of multiple seasons. Then it's just

663
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Speaker 2: a tiny fraction of that number that would have above

664
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Speaker 2: average careers at the major league level, being players of

665
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 2: significance that can flirt with All Star selections, that have

666
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 2: a sustained run with an organization, that make it through

667
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 2: their controllable years without being released or designated for assignment

668
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 2: or discarded In one way or another, at any one

669
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Speaker 2: time in all of minor league baseball, there's one hundred,

670
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Speaker 2: maybe one hundred and fifty affiliated players who are going

671
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: to be above average major leaguers. That's kind of the

672
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 2: point of this exercise and why the cutoff is where

673
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 2: it is. Where Baseball America and MLB Pipeline and fan

674
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Speaker 2: Graphs Prospects live baseball perspectus, they take their best chance

675
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Speaker 2: at naming all the players in minor league baseball that

676
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Speaker 2: they believe are going to become above average recognizable major

677
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: league players. There's not that many in the all of

678
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 2: affiliated baseball, and naturally these lists are going to miss some.

679
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 2: There's some that just to five the odds. The most

680
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: famous example probably being Jose Altuve being so undersized, being

681
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 2: signed for peanuts out of Venezuela, and just turning himself

682
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: into an exceptional all arounds player, the cheating situation notwithstanding,

683
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 2: and there are plenty of examples. Probably Brian Anderson has

684
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 2: reached a point where I think he's in that threshold

685
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 2: where he's clearly an above average major league player. He's

686
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: one of the top one hundred twenty five, one hundred

687
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 2: and fifty players in all of Major League Baseball right now,

688
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 2: and I don't think there was any point where he

689
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 2: was being regarded as a top one hundred overall prospect

690
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 2: in the game, if so, just very briefly, and it

691
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 2: certainly wasn't a consensus among all the talent evaluators, but

692
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: it happens. Pablo Lopez is someone that I believe very

693
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 2: firmly is going to be in the same situation. He

694
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 2: was never a top one hundred prospect guy as soon

695
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: as he was traded to the Marlins, though he made

696
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 2: some very important strides in his game, and if he's

697
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 2: healthy this year, I could see him being someone that

698
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 2: establishes himself as a very exciting mid rotation starter that

699
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: you just can't find all that those don't grow on

700
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 2: trees across all baseball. The Marlins barely had anybody fitting

701
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: that description the past few years in their rotation. It's

702
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 2: a very inexact to science, because these rankings take a

703
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 2: lot into consideration. They obviously, perhaps more so than anything else,

704
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: they look at the upside of the player they're ceiling

705
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 2: the realistic best case scenario for that player. Wander Franco

706
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: is the number one prospect in most people's views at

707
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: this time because they believe he is one of the

708
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: most gifted hitters in all the professional ranks, that you

709
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 2: could stick him in the majors right now and he

710
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: can be a league average hitter, and that eventually he

711
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 2: could be one of the best all rounds hitters in

712
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: the league and do it while playing a premium of

713
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 2: the middle position as a shortstop, be more than serviceable

714
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 2: at shortstop, and if not, move down the defensive spectrum

715
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 2: and be even better at third base or second base, etc.

716
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: Six do Sanchez, both before and after the trade, has

717
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 2: been that consensus awesome pitching prospect because of the velocity

718
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: he has, but also the swing and miss that he

719
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: can create with his secondary pitches, how efficient he is

720
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Speaker 2: on the mound, and his age, being just twenty one

721
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: years old and already on the verge of moving into

722
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: Triple A and just a matter of months away potentially

723
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 2: from debuting in the majors, his peak is still far

724
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 2: in the distance. So if he's being this successful at

725
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: this young age, imagine what he's capable of getting a

726
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 2: little bit stronger and more durable and further honing the

727
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: sequencing of his pitches. He can be exceptional a true

728
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: ace type of player if he stays healthy, but because

729
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: of his significant injuries in the past, that has to

730
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: downgrade him, and fairly or not, he is built differently

731
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 2: than your conventional starting pitcher, being shorter but also being thicker,

732
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Speaker 2: and how will those factors affect his durability and the

733
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 2: way that hitters pick up on the ball coming out

734
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 2: of his hands yet to be determined. JJ Bolde was

735
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: a college player at this time a year ago, and

736
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 2: he wasn't even like a top of the list college

737
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 2: prospects at this time. He had to really break out

738
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 2: in the power department while the Vanderbilt to go along

739
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 2: with a lot of the other strong fundamentals in his game,

740
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: is disciplined at the play, his defense, his overall athleticism

741
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 2: and instincts, and so there are some different opinions on

742
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: Bladette because he has such a short track record in

743
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: professional baseball and the results frankly haven't been all that

744
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 2: overwhelming since he turned pro. But all the tangibles that

745
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 2: you're looking for in a player, he has them, and

746
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 2: he can have a very quick, accelerated track throughout the

747
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: minor leagues. Even has a long shot opportunity of breaking

748
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: through to the majors by the end of this year

749
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: despite just being drafted in June of twenty nineteen. Hay

750
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 2: Sus Sanchez has some excellent offensive abilities, and he hasn't

751
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: really put them together fully at the high levels of

752
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: the minor leagues, pulling the ball as much as you

753
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 2: would expect and is not hitting it in the air

754
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: as frequently as you want. Therefore, it hasn't translated into

755
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: the kind of results that he had when he was

756
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 2: with the Rays organization. He is someone that fell considerably

757
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: on most of these top prospects lists, more so with

758
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: Pipeline than with Baseball America, and there's a justifiable reason

759
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 2: to that, because you have to trust him to make

760
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: those adjustments as he moves into even tougher competition in

761
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: the majors.

762
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 1: Or maybe you don't.

763
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: Maybe you think that he doesn't fully put it all

764
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: together despite having the ability to do so just twenty

765
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: two years old. That's another factor working in his advantage,

766
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 2: where just physically and in terms of experience playing this game,

767
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 2: there's still a lot ahead of him in order for him.

768
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: To figure it out.

769
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,240
Speaker 2: Edward Cabrera, coming off a great statistical year in Jupiter,

770
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 2: in Jacksonville. Built like a more conventional starting pitching prospect

771
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,720
Speaker 2: unlike six though Sanchez, but doesn't quite have the same

772
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 2: track record and doesn't have the single season workload yet

773
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: of what you would want from a potential starting pitcher.

774
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 2: Even last year he had a somewhat fluky infection that

775
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 2: kept him out for close to a month late in

776
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 2: the season. Jazz Chism might be as divisive as any

777
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: of these guys. Where Chism got off to a slow

778
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: start last year at double A level in the Diamondbacks

779
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 2: organization really picked it up after the trade. Just exceptional

780
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 2: athleticism for a guy still slightly built for a player,

781
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: a lot of good weight that he could add on

782
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: through the right training, about to turn twenty two years old,

783
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 2: and the quality of the contact that he makes is

784
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: unlike just about anything else that you'll see from a

785
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 2: shortstop in minor league baseball. It's like him and Wander

786
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: are almost in the same level in that one aspect

787
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 2: in terms of the quality of the contact that they make.

788
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: The question with Chisholm is how much contact will he make?

789
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: He really lowered that strikeout rate after the trade, but

790
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 2: still an issue relative to the typical want to be

791
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: major league player. He can stick at shortstop Defensively, he

792
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 2: can create a lot of chaos on the bases when

793
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: he's right. He impacts the game in every single way

794
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 2: you want, and you just love the confidence that he

795
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: shows in himself on the field and off the field

796
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 2: when speaking publicly. There's just that question as to what

797
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 2: to expect from his back to ball skills and if

798
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 2: he can do enough damage when he picks his spots

799
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 2: to make up for the fact that he may be

800
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 2: making a lot of outs by swinging and missing some

801
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 2: of the other Marlins that missed the top one hundred

802
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 2: Monte Harrison at this point, I think his window is

803
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 2: closed as a tip top one hundred guy, just because

804
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 2: of his age twenty four years old now twenty four

805
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: and a half entering this new year, who's had a

806
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: variety of injuries that have kept him off the field.

807
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: He's going to have to just prove it in the majors.

808
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: Briefly considered a top one hundred guy by some of

809
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 2: these outlets, but at this point it's all about him

810
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 2: taking the next step. You just put this stuff in

811
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 2: the rear view mirror and you focus on making the

812
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 2: major league roster. He's going to have a chance to

813
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 2: do that this spring. A fast riser last year, both

814
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 2: before and after he was traded to the Marlins was

815
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: first baseman leywin Diez, someone that I'm very high on.

816
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 2: Baseball America lists him as a player that they expect

817
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 2: to be a top one hundred guy a year from now,

818
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: assuming that he still has prospect eligibility. Didn't quite make

819
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 2: the cut this time, considering where he is on the

820
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 2: defensive spectrum. He has to make it as a first

821
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 2: baseman or otherwise he won't fit. That doesn't have a

822
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 2: defensive home at all. Aside from that, but he does

823
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 2: show a lot of the skills that you want from

824
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 2: a first baseman defensively, great quality of contact, and he's

825
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 2: put in the work in the gym to get the

826
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 2: most out of his body. We have an article about

827
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 2: that in our Marlins season preview on fish Stripes dot com.

828
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: Be sure to check that out.

829
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 2: Another one to keep an eye on is Braxton Garrett

830
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 2: this coming year, who we interviewed recently on earning their stripes.

831
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 2: Garrett just came back from Tommy John surgery in twenty nineteen.

832
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 2: Most valuable player for the High A Jupiter Hammerheads. So

833
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 2: he'll be at double A for what we expect to

834
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 2: be most of this coming season, and a lot of

835
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 2: that is going to come down to his changeup. The

836
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 2: changeup is the big work in progress for him. He's

837
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 2: got good fastball v lo in command for a left hander,

838
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 2: a nasty curveball that he's been throwing ever since he

839
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 2: started pitching, and we had a good story about that

840
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 2: from him on the podcast. If he stays healthy during

841
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 2: this upcoming year, he's probably going to crack the top

842
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 2: one hundred as well. I just caution everybody not to

843
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: get too obsessed about those rankings. It's an arbitrary cut

844
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: off at the one hundred mark, and players at the

845
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 2: top of that list are weighted more heavily than the

846
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 2: ones that just sneak on at the bottom. So the

847
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 2: Marlins have five guys that are all comfortably within the

848
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 2: top one hundred according to a couple of major outlets.

849
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 2: With the Baseball Prospectus top one oh one, they rank

850
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 2: an extra player for whatever reason. That list is dropping

851
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 2: in a number of hours, and we'll have that covered

852
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 2: on Fish Stripes as well. The one very real concern

853
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 2: is that the Marlins don't have a bona fide star

854
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 2: at the top of that list. They don't have a

855
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 2: Wander Franco or in recent years, a Carlos Korea, a

856
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 2: Mike Trout, a Manny Machado. They don't have that player

857
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 2: right now in their system that has everything that you

858
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 2: can trust from a minor league player. All these guys

859
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:03,240
Speaker 2: have the ceiling of being perennial All Stars. All those guys,

860
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 2: even some of the ones that just missed the top

861
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 2: one hundred, they could be All Stars. And if the

862
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 2: Marlins hit on most of those players, then this is

863
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 2: gonna be a playoff contender on a consistent basis. Realistically,

864
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 2: the majority of these players do not hit their ceiling,

865
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 2: whether it's injury related, if it's something within their control,

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Speaker 2: if it just happens to be their fit with among

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Speaker 2: other players in the organization. This is a tricky business

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Speaker 2: and that's why even these best evaluators, they get a

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Speaker 2: lot of them wrong. There are a lot of these

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Speaker 2: players that simply do not progress the way you want.

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Speaker 2: The last time the Marlins organization was in this situation,

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Speaker 2: entering the twenty thirteen season, Christian Yelich was number seventeen

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Speaker 2: on the MLB list, Jose Fernandez number twenty two, Jake

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Speaker 2: Murriznik number thirty five, So you have three guys in

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Speaker 2: most dynamic players at their respective positions, and then you

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Speaker 2: have Murisnik as a fourth outfielder. So there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of variants other players that were ranked in the same

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Speaker 2: area as Yelich and fern Endez in Murisnik. On that list,

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Speaker 2: you have Archie Bradley, who was turned into a reliever.

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Speaker 2: You have Shelby Miller who had a couple of good

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Speaker 2: years as a starter and then cratered in his mid

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Speaker 2: to late twenties. Javier Baiez who has gone on to

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Speaker 2: be a great star, and Nolan Aronato was right there

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Speaker 2: in the mix, but so has Jonathan Singleton, who's now

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Speaker 2: out of baseball entirely after getting a big guaranteed contract

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Speaker 2: before even made his debut. There's Anthony Rendon who's highly

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Speaker 2: ranked on that list, Xander Bogarts, and also Bubba Starling

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Speaker 2: who is a Kansas City Royals bust, and hak Ju

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Speaker 2: Lee who was one of the top raised prospects that

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Speaker 2: He's now, I just had to look this up. He

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Speaker 2: just returned to his native South Korea to play professionally

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Speaker 2: over there after never breaking through. There's so much volatility

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Speaker 2: with the players on these lists. The best thing you

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Speaker 2: could hope for is having strong representation that the Marlins have,

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Speaker 2: but also representation at the very top end of the list,

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Speaker 2: and that's what the Marlins are still lacking. It will

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Speaker 2: take some more progress from six to zero, really proving

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Speaker 2: himself at Triple A jj blday putting a strong results

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Speaker 2: at double A. Depending on how this team does in

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Speaker 2: the international free agent period, how they do in the

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Speaker 2: MLB Draft, they're gonna have a top three overall pick

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Speaker 2: this coming year. There's still a lot of talent acquisition

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Speaker 2: opportunities for the Marlins to have, and you got to

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Speaker 2: keep taking advantage of it until you have more of

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Speaker 2: these players breakthrough to the majors and establish themselves over there.

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Speaker 2: You just stock up as many viable, exciting prospects as

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Speaker 2: you can.

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Speaker 1: So far, so good. Still a long way to go.

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Speaker 2: In order to secure this team's future and put them

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Speaker 2: in a situation to be great for a long time.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. I'm Eli Susman rate and review on

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Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts. Please check out the rest of our coverage

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Speaker 2: on fishtripes dot com. Lessen two weeks away from FanFest,

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Speaker 2: only about a month away from a special meetup that

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Speaker 2: we are planning at Roger Dean Chevrolet Stadium. More details

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Speaker 2: about to come on that, on social media and on

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Speaker 2: the website. Hoping to see you guys around and having

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Speaker 2: conversations about the Marlins, both online and in person.

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