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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: First, bro, Man, I want to tell you thank you

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Speaker 2: for coming on here.

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Speaker 1: You know you are guy man.

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Speaker 2: Memories of the draft that's coming up, and you know,

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Speaker 2: just seeing you all the time. Man, Proud of everything

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Speaker 2: you're doing, but appreciate you coming to rock with us.

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Speaker 3: Man, Man, I love y'all. Man, y'all was inspiration because

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Speaker 3: of the rookie draft, something that we have for rookies.

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Speaker 3: They had all this ice, these boys that made it.

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Speaker 3: I got to figure out how to get that bag

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Speaker 3: and hang out with them and uh just listen. First

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Speaker 3: of all, when I got on the show up, I

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Speaker 3: was like I got PTSD because I had to guard

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Speaker 3: both y'all.

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Speaker 4: At some point along the way. I'm like, these brothers, man, unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: Q just bullied me and you just bigger than me.

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Speaker 4: So we appreciate man. Love y'all both man.

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Speaker 2: When you first got to the league. Who's the first

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Speaker 2: person to bust yours?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Alan Houston?

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Speaker 3: Alan Houston aged two, Well, y'all know, I mean how

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Speaker 3: good he was and how versatile he was, six', seven

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Speaker 3: could do everything in the.

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Speaker 4: POST i think he Was clay Before clay.

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Speaker 3: Probably, yeah no, dribbles he can. Post you you can turn,

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Speaker 3: around jump shoot, you can face you. Up he can drive.

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Speaker 3: You and he wanted to become my mentor in. Life

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Speaker 3: But Alan houston just gave me too much.

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Speaker 4: WORK. Mj just getting back to The.

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Speaker 3: Wizards he wasn't who he, was but he was still,

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Speaker 3: incredible if y'all know how good he was at that

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Speaker 3: time still and he was cooking rate in D.

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Speaker 4: C And George carl, says get in, here get in

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Speaker 4: and Guard. Jordan i'm, like what AM i gonna? Do?

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Speaker 4: Guard what AM i gonna? Do it was my second

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Speaker 4: in the, league and uh it was, great.

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Speaker 3: Man BUT mj was, tough, obviously But Alan, houston for,

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Speaker 3: SURE i couldn't do anything with.

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Speaker 4: Him WHEN i first got to THE. Nba yo yo.

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Speaker 5: Yo we live on, location me and the blackest one

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Speaker 5: selling at the crib In. Orlando but today we got

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Speaker 5: something special for you. Man we got a draft, classmate

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Speaker 5: two thousand draft in the, building. Baby we got the

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Speaker 5: pride Of, Columbus Ohio state's. Finance we Got Milwaukee buck ALL.

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Speaker 5: Nba we gotta, Listen Red, riplets gold, medalists The World

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Speaker 5: championship gold, medalist all that then, some but more, importantly

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Speaker 5: we got, that. Man it was a draft classmate with,

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Speaker 5: Us Mike Red Red hot riplets in the, Building Red Hot,

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Speaker 5: man we appreciate you pulling.

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Speaker 6: Up, Man it's.

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Speaker 2: Gonna be nostalgic for some of our fans right. Here, Columbus,

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Speaker 2: Ohio West High. School your pops went To west?

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Speaker 1: Too how was?

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Speaker 2: It it was always ritten in stone Like i'm finna

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Speaker 2: go To west and hoop like my pops, did and

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Speaker 2: do my thing and try to break all these.

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Speaker 4: Records how was?

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Speaker 2: It how was it going Into West High school and

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Speaker 2: getting ready to start your high school?

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Speaker 4: Career, well for, one D i had no choice WHERE

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Speaker 4: i went to high. School it's right down the. Street

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Speaker 4: so where we.

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Speaker 3: Lived my dad never left The west side Of columbus

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Speaker 3: and we stayed close to the high. School so BUT

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Speaker 3: i think my dad served as motivation and. Inspiration he

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Speaker 3: had all his records and his name of The hall Of,

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Speaker 3: fame and we went to the gym doing freshman. Orientation he,

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Speaker 3: said this is my. Gym like by the Time i'm,

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Speaker 3: done it'll be my.

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Speaker 4: Gym.

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Speaker 3: Okay but you, know my dad always wanted me to

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Speaker 3: do better than him on the court in the.

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Speaker 4: Ife, Obviously i'll never accomplish that feat in.

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Speaker 3: Life BUT i think my dad was just a source of,

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Speaker 3: motivation AND i wanted to break all his, records and

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Speaker 3: he had all these, trophies.

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Speaker 4: AND i wanted to accomplish all of. That and he put.

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Speaker 3: The ball in the crib at two years old or

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Speaker 3: one years, old you, know SO i was pretty much

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Speaker 3: destined to play.

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Speaker 6: Ball at what point did you say you really started

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Speaker 6: to feel like you was like?

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Speaker 4: Good?

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Speaker 5: Though like, You i'm, saying like, you we all start

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Speaker 5: off at a certain. Point at one, point do you

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Speaker 5: think like the people around you started to see like,

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Speaker 5: okay Like, mike kind of separating.

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Speaker 4: Themselves great, question.

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Speaker 3: MAN i think probably my junior year in high, SCHOOL

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Speaker 3: i GREW i was five ten as a freshman point

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Speaker 3: guard my whole. LIFE i was six foot as a,

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Speaker 3: sophomore and THEN i came back to my junior year six,'

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Speaker 3: four six four and. A half my coach, was like

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Speaker 3: what in the world happened to you? Over summer so

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Speaker 3: that length and that height kind of separated me from

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Speaker 3: a lot of. The guys and then by my, SENIOR

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Speaker 3: year I knew i was. Really good but, YOU know

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Speaker 3: i had a root Awakening at nike that summer between

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Speaker 3: junior and, Senior Year Nike You'll american Camp.

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Speaker 4: IN indianapolis i saw all y'all, Coming up Hugh.

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Speaker 3: And corey, I'M like i don't Know if i'm, you

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Speaker 3: know Playing Against shaye COTTON playing i don't Even Know.

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Speaker 4: Baron davis, I'M like i don't even KNOW if.

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Speaker 3: I belong but, you know along, the way playing against,

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Speaker 3: those talents played against y'all propelled me to, get better

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Speaker 3: and it motivated me to. Get better, but yeah by my,

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Speaker 3: SENIOR year i was six six and the handle and

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Speaker 3: the post and do all. Those things so by my junior,

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Speaker 3: SENIOR year I knew i could play.

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Speaker 1: Your senior year. You have it was twenty five nine?

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Speaker 2: And three when did the jump shot turn into what

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Speaker 2: the jump?

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Speaker 1: Shot is because your jumper was.

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Speaker 2: Like it, was, was yeah that never?

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Speaker 6: Going nowhere that like riding a?

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Speaker 1: Bike man when when did the jump shot?

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Speaker 4: Get there you?

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Speaker 3: Know what it's funny because, YOU know Q and i

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Speaker 3: played a good rip in high school AND and i

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Speaker 3: won't disclose that story for so much because it was

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Speaker 3: it wasn't pretty.

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Speaker 1: About tell us, about it SO.

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Speaker 4: So q so there's a little team Out of chicago

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Speaker 4: called with the young.

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Speaker 3: Little to, be, like okay YOU know i NEVER heard

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Speaker 3: I heard, q obviously but it didn't know the rest of.

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Speaker 3: The team and we Played At Hartley high School, in

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Speaker 3: columbus and we had length were tall, and big but

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Speaker 3: they came in and absolutely.

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Speaker 4: SMACKED us q was a monster in.

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Speaker 3: THAT game i had a great game for. OUR team

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Speaker 3: i think YOU and i want mbps of.

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Speaker 4: The game yeah, you yeah it was a. DUNK FEST

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Speaker 6: Mean see THE. Dump q.

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Speaker 5: He told me it was over in the layup line

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Speaker 5: when they just turned around like all it, was like

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Speaker 5: you know we had that year We. Have henry yeah

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Speaker 5: see there was was lobbing and wind mill And d.

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Speaker 6: Gates was throwing you know then jun that was.

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Speaker 5: My junior so we Still Had lonnie holland who had crazy,

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Speaker 5: player of the game off The til Lonnie he lonnie

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Speaker 5: boomed on somebody baseline whole gym went crazy bro first

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Speaker 4: Bong boom they Had THE.

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Speaker 3: Avengers d so it was equivalent, to, like okay do

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Speaker 3: You Remember KENNY gregory Q And D. Kitty gregory we

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Speaker 3: Went To rival high schools in the. Same City Remember.

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Speaker 1: Weaver Lefty, Bun, weaver yeah.

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Speaker 3: on the same team and maybe we have a chance

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Speaker 4: The, young yeah that.

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Speaker 3: Equipment of it was so y'all had like SEVEN eight

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Speaker 5: That team yeah We, sent yeah we sent EIGHT dudes

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Speaker 4: Thing though Was ME. Cordell.

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Speaker 5: D gates we had all played together since, seventh grade

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Speaker 5: so that. Was continuity we played au since seventh. Grade

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Speaker 5: together then we all got to the same. High school

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Speaker 5: so that was that was the energy you Would seeing

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Speaker 5: Lonnie and lonnie was on that Team because Lonnie was

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Speaker 5: annie was a Senior And lennie holland was a senior

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Speaker 5: and we were, all Juniors but lannie we and Me

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Speaker 5: and lannie went to the same. Grade school we Went.

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Speaker 5: To whistler he was from, my neighborhood were. From hood,

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Speaker 5: so yeah like it was a lot, of. Continuity man.

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Speaker 5: You know we we went to with the young and

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Speaker 5: changed them from the academic to catline nerds school, to,

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Speaker 5: like yeah, we're running we run the city now we

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Speaker 5: now we.

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Speaker 4: Give respect did y'all? WIN everything i want to state

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Speaker 6: Y'all, win yeah we ain't losing the city for.

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Speaker 5: Two years two years nobody in the city couldn't touch

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Speaker 5: its publicly, Came, rock hey we undefeated Wan and i'm talking,

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Speaker 6: Two.

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Speaker 2: Years man shout out, to uh that's crazy you, Say

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Speaker 2: that but shout Out To. Esteban weaver like a lot

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Speaker 2: of people don't say, his name but he's definitely one

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Speaker 2: say him. As much, you know him And The. Ronnie

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Speaker 2: fields you Know what. I'm saying the guys man like

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Speaker 2: of stuff just. Went on everybody definitely expected them to.

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Speaker 1: Be pros.

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Speaker 4: You.

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Speaker 3: KNOW yeah i was Talking to lebron, one year a

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Speaker 3: couple of, years BACK and, i said, remember SAID do

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Speaker 3: i remember that boy?

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Speaker 4: Was? Crazy yeah he was you before you. Was you

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Speaker 4: he was six four and eighth grade and just. Duncan.

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Speaker 3: Dominant yeah my dad put. A magazine he was a

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Speaker 3: couple of. Magazine cover my dad would in my bed

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Speaker 3: like this is this is what you got to. COMPETE

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Speaker 3: against i, was, like wow it's like.

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Speaker 4: Money, FIELDS yeah.

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Speaker 6: I can remember Coming.

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Speaker 5: To columbus, you know y'all had to always have, the

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Speaker 5: tournaments you Know what, i'm saying standing in the, outside

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Speaker 5: hotel we Kind. Of columbia that WAS when i First

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Speaker 5: seen SABAWE when i was in like seventh, Eighth grade

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Speaker 5: like what is?

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Speaker 6: Going on like this? Is crazy?

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Speaker 4: You, know, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah could have been anybody else Outside Of ohio state to.

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Speaker 5: Get, you hey tell me, this though like you average

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Speaker 5: twenty one freshman, year though like, you know y'all didn't obviously,

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Speaker 5: team wise y'all didn't do too much or go crazy,

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Speaker 5: winning games but you stepped right on, the scene averaging

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Speaker 5: twenty one Point seven freshmen of. The year was the

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Speaker 5: first freshman to ever Lead The big ten. In, scoring

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Speaker 5: like so you stepped, right on like letting them know that,

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Speaker 5: Presence felt how was that for you coming in as

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Speaker 6: The season it, WAS.

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Speaker 3: Wild q it was INCREDIBLE because i played thirty eight

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Speaker 4: Of it but they put you.

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Speaker 5: Up downtown we take all these dope pictures in tuxedos

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Speaker 6: UP kicking i NEVER heard i ain't never heard of.

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Speaker 6: High school you you Know what. I'm saying he straight

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Speaker 5: High school he ain't have to worry, about no, you know,

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Speaker 6: I'm saying you can look it Up.

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Speaker 6: Dinners and, things downtown, you know.

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Speaker 2: Town shot how was it being part of THE n

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Speaker 4: A part, Of amazing like how big, it is how.

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Speaker 2: The fan that ride, that y'all that run that, Y'all

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Speaker 3: It was AMAZING because q we had a we had

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Speaker 3: and we had game momentum off that tournament win And uh.

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Speaker 6: Sam shootout we. Were there. We lost, we lost, of course.

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Speaker 4: Don't worry. We lost it was a, great tournament that's.

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Speaker 3: Exactly great was and so one of the main tournaments

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Speaker 3: And baron they got Upset by detroit and so we

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Speaker 6: Boy, understand, explosives.

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Speaker 5: Stupid stupid bounce the, name right Shout Out Chris porter

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Speaker 3: The number, one team number one seed in the tournament

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Speaker 4: E Bart LeVar hostel and that Whole Crew Bootsy, Thornton

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Speaker 4: boosy so they had. A crew and then we beat

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Speaker 3: The lead and then we want to And, Rip hamilton

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Speaker 3: connecticut and they. Beat, us yeah it was a close

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Speaker 4: Want to win the. National championship but it was an.

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Speaker 3: Incredible run The magical to get to the fire fours

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Speaker 3: is something that we all as kid wanted. To do

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Speaker 3: to get that far, was amazing especially after the year

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Speaker 3: before being one of the worst teams.

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Speaker 2: In all tell me About how ohio wasn't like crazy

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Speaker 2: popping like that before you, get there you have that type,

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Speaker 2: of season And how columbus change that next season when

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Speaker 2: they Wasn't saying ohio suck no more or any of.

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Speaker 2: That stuff just, to see, you know just to see

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Speaker 2: how a city can just go from this to Turn

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Speaker 2: into go just.

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Speaker 1: Like that how was that?

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Speaker 2: For you to just see the fans and how they

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Speaker 2: was repping for y'all and rooting For y'all because if

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Speaker 2: you look across, the, land man they Sell Down ohio state.

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Speaker 2: Stuff everywhere you Know what, I'm saying they sell that

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Speaker 2: merge every were a lot of people Were The ohio.

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Speaker 2: State merged but to see how it changed from this,

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Speaker 2: to go how?

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Speaker 6: Was that it?

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Speaker 4: WAS amazing i wish we had nil. Back then it was.

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Speaker 3: Fun though the city galvanized, Behind, us man it was an.

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Speaker 4: Incredible scene everywhere. We went we were like.

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Speaker 3: Rock Stars and columbus to, this day a lot of

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Speaker 3: the fans say their favorite team the last thirty, plus

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Speaker 3: years it was. Our team now We've Had mike Conley

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Speaker 3: And greg olden go To The National. Chapship game We've

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Speaker 3: had Jared selling jer and his teams go to Find

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Speaker 3: fourst but.

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Speaker 4: Had d really Really Lowed JIMMY jackson? Da, before Yeah

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Speaker 4: And jimmy jackson.

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Speaker 3: At, Lea yeah but a lot of fans still love

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Speaker 3: our team because it was kind of out of nowhere how.

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Speaker 4: It happened ye still get in love to this Day

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Speaker 4: here columbus on that, got too.

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Speaker 2: Got, too yeah so after, that year you still ain't

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Speaker 2: time whilet getting up out, of there you still want

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Speaker 2: to come back and do. It, again yeah after that,

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Speaker 2: sophomore year you just had to come back for this junior.

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Speaker 4: Year again. Huh yeah, different again, different mentality.

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Speaker 3: Different mindset, you know we just Lose to Clin and

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Speaker 3: rip and Me and squeeny want to be the best

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Speaker 3: back court in, the country, you know, and representing.

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Speaker 4: So we get close, this year next year. We'll win

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Speaker 4: That's a champions of. The winner. You know it was

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Speaker 4: the mindset and so obviously it.

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Speaker 3: Didn't happen but that, SOPHOMORE year i still wasn't thinking

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Speaker 3: about leaving to go TO.

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Speaker 4: The nba but at. Different TIME now i would definitely

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Speaker 4: consider that.

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Speaker 5: For sure after your, junior year was it like after

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Speaker 5: you come back that, sophomore year was it like already a?

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Speaker 5: Fourgone conclusion like junior year so, Over with like we're

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Speaker 5: trying to get. This Done but i'm definitely out of

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Speaker 5: here because like that, Same year i'm a FRESHMAN and

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Speaker 5: i had that same waption like lee SOON as I

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Speaker 5: said i was, coming back coming back meant, like yeah this,

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Speaker 5: is it this? Is it like it ain't even a

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Speaker 5: question next YEAR like i need to work on this

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Speaker 5: and FEEL like i need to get a little better

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Speaker 5: here there, or whatever but like this. Is it it

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Speaker 5: ain't even. Any EQUATION and i know after, this year

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Speaker 5: this is it was.

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Speaker 3: It like that, for you you, know what probably halfway through,

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Speaker 3: the season, you know we were winning and we went

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Speaker 3: to big to the championship that Year With, mischigan state

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Speaker 3: but it wasn't the same as it was the. Year

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Speaker 3: before the magic was kind of a little. Bit gone

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Speaker 3: the fun wasn't there as it was the. Year BEFORE

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Speaker 3: and i think a lot had to do with, that

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Speaker 3: queue like my time is up, In college it's time

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Speaker 3: for me to go pursue. The league AND after i

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Speaker 3: Lost To johnny Hensley And john Salmon's in miami in the,

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Speaker 3: SECOND round i knew. THAT plateau i knew in the

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Speaker 3: LOCKER room i. Was, done yeah it's time. To go

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Speaker 3: And so schoon he, was leaving he was. A senior

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Speaker 3: i was gonna come back for my senior year kind of.

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Speaker 3: By myself so it was time, to go, and uh,

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Speaker 3: you know we had a, great run but you kind

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Speaker 3: of know when it's time.

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Speaker 2: To go how many workouts you did going into the draft.

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Speaker 6: A lot even me and him did.

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Speaker 4: A lot i didn't do a lot. AT. All q what? Did? Five,

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Speaker 4: five no it's still a mystery to this day that

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Speaker 4: whole uh draft drop?

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Speaker 3: For, ME yeah I, Think, Utah, Charlotte Philly new york

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Speaker 3: that might have.

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Speaker 4: BEEN it i never worked Out. FOR milwaukee i didn't

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Speaker 4: get that many workouts.

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Speaker 6: At all so were you not getting invited?

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Speaker 5: To?

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Speaker 4: Workouts, no no it. Was wild that's.

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Speaker 5: Even worse so let me ask, you, this bro because

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Speaker 5: this was right around the time where it was like

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Speaker 4: With bubbling it.

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Speaker 5: Was like six' nine, six a lanky and everybody was

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Speaker 5: looking for The, next team MAC, the next Kg. The

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Speaker 5: next kobe so do you feel like, at that time

443
00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,960
Speaker 5: because THIS is how i, felt AS well because i felt.

444
00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,360
Speaker 6: The vat of left. My freshman year i'm.

445
00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,720
Speaker 5: A lottery pick i felt like coming back, my sophomore year,

446
00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,320
Speaker 5: like you said it wasn't as fun, like FOR me.

447
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,640
Speaker 5: LIKE i knew i FELT like when, i came back

448
00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,840
Speaker 5: you should have, left like now but now your. Decision

449
00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,439
Speaker 5: is made now you, gotta do it so you make the,

450
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,800
Speaker 5: best of IT but MENTALLY i felt i. Should have

451
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,680
Speaker 5: left and then the second part of that is that

452
00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,600
Speaker 5: you don't get played the same you out here getting doubled.

453
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:00,000
Speaker 4: And tripled the whole.

454
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,720
Speaker 5: Old game play like my freshman and sophomore year numbers,

455
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,040
Speaker 5: were almost identical but it didn't look the same BECAUSE

456
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,239
Speaker 5: the way i had, to get it because it was, Like,

457
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 5: they was god damn.

458
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:10,680
Speaker 4: All over me, ain't.

459
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,720
Speaker 6: No, Surprise fifteen rebounds ain't no.

460
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,159
Speaker 4: More of, that they got.

461
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 5: Damn game plan i'm Listening To. Mad man cordella Is

462
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,880
Speaker 5: The Point god mark katt they coached and told them,

463
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,119
Speaker 5: boys in practice if he get all offensive, rebound on

464
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,560
Speaker 5: y'all you coming right. Out THE game and i was

465
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,520
Speaker 5: SITTING there like. I knew this i would be taking

466
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:31,919
Speaker 5: To him like i'm about to get you seld out

467
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,360
Speaker 5: of the game on the. Free throw line just tried

468
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,639
Speaker 5: LIKE cause, Like, i knew like but this is. How

469
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 5: it was so now, your second year, you come back

470
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 5: all eyes on you and you still. Do your shit

471
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,679
Speaker 5: you don't average twenty one, like you did but like

472
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,439
Speaker 5: you still. Do your shit but it's like AT that

473
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,439
Speaker 5: point i felt, like coming back the scouts were no

474
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,360
Speaker 5: more like. Enamate with me, it was like now let's

475
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,439
Speaker 5: see what he, don't do well let's just. Pick HIM

476
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 5: apart and i FELT like if i left, my first

477
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 5: year they. Can't do that when, you came, back it's

478
00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 5: like now they gonna, JUST. Criticize you q and.

479
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 4: You know what we, were highly, talent you know going

480
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 4: into our your.

481
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 3: Sophore, yea junior yeah so like AND you and i

482
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 3: talked about this at the rookie. Transitional program too. IT

483
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 3: was disappointing i was almost twenty for my career, in

484
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:17,199
Speaker 3: college basically and it kind of. WASN'T really valued i

485
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 3: guess you stayed too long and we kind of you.

486
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 3: Kind of plateaued you're, twenty years old how much better?

487
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 3: Can you be type of mentality, d you know compared

488
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 3: to being eighteen, seventeen.

489
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,360
Speaker 4: Coming, In you know and so there was a stigma.

490
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,159
Speaker 3: Towards maybe PLATEAUING and so q had a, dominant college,

491
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 3: CAREER you know i came on and had a great.

492
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 4: Career IN college so i didn't get the.

493
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 3: Drop per se but when they see, ALL the time

494
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,640
Speaker 3: i guess the value is not as. There as much

495
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 3: so being drafted late in, THE second round i was.

496
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 3: Kind of Puzzled Me and courtney alexander talked a, couple

497
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 3: months ago or it even last year. A little bit

498
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:54,120
Speaker 3: he was ten and he was our, draft, yeah. Thirteen

499
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,439
Speaker 3: yep exactly so it all, worked out obviously but, still

500
00:21:58,560 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 3: that night that draft.

501
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:00,200
Speaker 4: NIGHT was yuh.

502
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 3: I was, SICK you know i had. A, DRAFT party yeah.

503
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 3: I was shocked you were, eighteen Right.

504
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 4: THERE eighteen like.

505
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 5: I was sick only saving grace for ME was that

506
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 5: i was getting to go play with my boy, and

507
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 5: you know, obviously like WOW right after, i, Got picked

508
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,880
Speaker 5: well kean got picked, first BEFORE me so i knew

509
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 5: D and Then. I knew KEON then as, i got

510
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 5: picked they Traded whoever for. Corey Mcghetty coming so i'm, walking, across,

511
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 5: like okay Well at least i'm gonna be with my

512
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 5: SOME homies.

513
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 6: That I know but I, WAS d no.

514
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 5: I was pissed i'm looking at name After name, and i'm,

515
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 5: feeling you know. How we, go, I'M like, BRO i

516
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,880
Speaker 5: didn't i, didn't did this. THIS and this i didn't

517
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 5: seen these dudes and workouts And it didn't like that

518
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 5: was the part that.

519
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 4: HAD me puzzled, i was okay cool if.

520
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 6: Y'all want to.

521
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 5: MEASURE stuff off i FELT like what i did in

522
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 5: college was, good enough too but like, EVEN beyond that

523
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 5: i got to go man up with some, of THESE

524
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 5: dudes and i was, like in workouts like what? Did

525
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,439
Speaker 5: y'all see like, Wait, a, minute, like, yo son okay

526
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 5: you just told me none. Of this matters y'all got

527
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 5: whatever impressions y'all, got GOING on because I know WHAT

528
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 5: i just i just took his lunch money and.

529
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 6: IT didn't matter, i, was like yo that that was

530
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 6: the most frustrating.

531
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 5: Part, For me bro like sitting there watching these names

532
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 5: get called and it's like.

533
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 3: No question pick. AT the pick i had. A draft

534
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 3: party i left the party and went upstairs. FOR the

535
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 3: SECOND i think. I was embarrassed i was full of,

536
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 3: shame and, like you know JUST like am i going?

537
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 3: After a while now you get, into the forties toties.

538
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 3: LOOK like them i, don't get, drafted you, Know like

539
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 3: WOW and so i get picked.

540
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 4: At forty third russ granted.

541
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 3: CALLS my Name I wanted david stern to, call my,

542
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 3: name you know so you do, all of, That you

543
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 3: know and so my.

544
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 4: DAD came upstairs i never forget this AS long as

545
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 4: i let my.

546
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 3: Dad came UPSTAIRS he knew i was crying, and just sad, and,

547
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 3: he's like son it's not about the position that you.

548
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 4: Got picked in it's about The position that god.

549
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 3: Has YOU in and, i, was like now my, dad's

550
00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 3: A pastor, AND i'm like i don't want to hear

551
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 3: that pastor. Talk right, NOW you know i, Got you

552
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 3: know but LIKE years later i under still, he was.

553
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 3: Saying you know and it wind up being in a

554
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 3: perfect situation For. Me in milwaukee THE problem is i

555
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 3: Never worked OUT milwaukee and i never Had been to

556
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 3: milwaukee Except for the Madison, we played, WISCONSIN but like

557
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 3: i never had No connection to, milwaukee at all and

558
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 3: SO and then i.

559
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 4: Get drafted to A Team with ray, allen, and like

560
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 4: OKAY how am?

561
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 3: I Gonna Play like lindsay hunters Backed them Up, Sam

562
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 3: tim big LIKE how am?

563
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 4: I GONNA play am i? Gonna? Make? It, back THEN

564
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 4: deep Y'MER.

565
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 3: Cba the cba so, if you didn't if you didn't,

566
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 3: make the team he was gonna GO. To The cba

567
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 3: and i'll. Never forget man, In training camp ray had a.

568
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 3: Missed the layup it was a great move that he

569
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 3: made and. Missed the layup but back then the coaches

570
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 3: would yell at the young young players to make a point.

571
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 3: To The vets so george Was, yelling at rays would. Yell,

572
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 3: At ME right so i make a similar move, LATER

573
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 3: in practice i. Missed the LAYUP it was i got

574
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 3: fout or. SOMETHING like that i, missed The Layup and, George,

575
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 3: caross said mike if you missed, Another lay up i'm

576
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 3: sitting to the team via. To them all THERE Was,

577
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 3: no g league IT, was a cba and so you

578
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 3: know my contact.

579
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 5: Contract, wasn't guaranteed, yeah, no guarantee.

580
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 4: Nothing and just.

581
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 3: Figure it out but my perspective after that draft WAS

582
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 3: unique because i Remember Me.

583
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 4: AND lawrence funderberg i don't know If You remember lawrence

584
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 4: lefty played the league for. A number years.

585
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 3: Lefty exactly right We ran The heels and tims, the

586
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,479
Speaker 3: next day, the NEXT morning and i got the best shape.

587
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 4: Of my life Your Heels, IN tempelin boots. I did?

588
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 5: You i did like whose? Idea was That that was

589
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 5: thunderbirk's idea? To do that like, it was mine. IT

590
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 5: was my.

591
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 4: I was like a right, raged dog man.

592
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 6: Just, so mad listen that's for rest.

593
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 3: Of my career d check check check EVERY team that,

594
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 3: I played against i held, it against him like y'all

595
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 3: made a.

596
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 4: Mistake overlooking me like, people, Don't understand bro like how?

597
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 4: That could be like You know.

598
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 5: WHAT i'm saying i watched the draft EVERY year and

599
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,479
Speaker 5: i always feel that way about somebody because that's just

600
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 5: something that.

601
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 6: You can't control things happen the.

602
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 5: Way they happen it's, a crazy situation but it's always

603
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 5: somebody who feels slighted because that's just.

604
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 6: What it is and that's the beautiful, thing, About it

605
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 6: though like.

606
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 5: You get to get, your get back You know, What,

607
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 5: i'm saying like if you get to get, your get

608
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 5: back you gotta take some time and sometimes it's, hard

609
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 5: as hell but you. Get your shot you get to get.

610
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 5: Your GET back like i look at a, lot of

611
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 5: time like hoop, type they do like they do the

612
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 5: redraft of all of these classes and you know, where

613
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 5: we went and then you look at the redraft and

614
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 5: now we top five and top, ten and shit, and it's,

615
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 5: like you, know that's cool but, Like damn that like.

616
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 6: We You know, what i'm saying we want to do

617
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 6: it when it, was, Time Listen bro.

618
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 3: Like i'll, say it again y'all motivated me man at the,

619
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 3: rookie transitional program which is.

620
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 4: Before, THE season yeah i forgot WHERE we went dc

621
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 4: right OUT.

622
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 6: Right, outside dt yeah.

623
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 3: And y'all had Just Signed With jordan jordan brand and y'all,

624
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 3: Had you know and so y'all was like really?

625
00:26:58,880 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 4: Really, DOING it.

626
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 3: MAN i was i ain't, A shoot deal i ain't,

627
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 3: In A contract AND i think i wouldn't change anything

628
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 3: about do it. ALL over again i wouldn't change ONE

629
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 3: thing because i think it ignitied the fire and me and.

630
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 3: Hunger at me that kind of propelled me to rest. Of,

631
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 3: my career.

632
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 1: Yeah let me.

633
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 2: Ask you this That year the lakers, won a championship

634
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 2: BUT the team i felt that could Compete with the Lakers.

635
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: Was the bucks y'all was so loaded.

636
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 2: On that team how was it just being on that

637
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 2: team and having so Much Talent like tim thomas came

638
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 2: off the, Bench for y'all like y'all had.

639
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: So much talent.

640
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 2: On that team how was that being on that team

641
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 2: with So Much like big dog one, of my favorites.

642
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 5: Favorites respect he deserved fact kill Out here And Sam.

643
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 2: AND sam caseill I always tell I'LL.

644
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: Be seeing i ain't.

645
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 2: Saying no name i'd be seeing a lot of guys getting,

646
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: These you Know hall of fames and a, lot of

647
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 2: awards but They Don't give sam. Caseill the credit sam

648
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 2: still used to kill your favorite point guard boy, All

649
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: the time like all the time you.

650
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 4: Said it all i'm gonna just.

651
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 3: Break it down like so my perspective, changed, FROM like

652
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 3: dang i got drafted forty, Third to like i'm.

653
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 4: In the, league I'm here. So i'm.

654
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 3: In, i'm in YEAH and so i get a chance

655
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 3: to learn from The best And ray And Sam and Big.

656
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 3: Dog and tim that team. Was so talented You. Mentioned

657
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 3: the lakers we were Undefeated. Against, the, lakers yeah.

658
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 4: Yeah it.

659
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 3: Was a, matchup you know the playoffs is, all about

660
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 3: matchup and so we. Had a matchup not to say

661
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 3: we would have, won the, championship but like we. HAD

662
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 3: a matchup i think that was More than a philadelphia present.

663
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 3: In the finals definitely, was our, series you know seven.

664
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 3: Games that Year but Like, ray shooter, RAY every. DAY

665
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 3: i suspended i raised house probably, half a year just.

666
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 4: Learn.

667
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 3: FROM him growing i had, no shoe deal so he

668
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 3: Would Give, me jordan's yeah and take.

669
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 4: Care of me And.

670
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 3: Then obviously sam You could book sam for nineteen to

671
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 3: twenty every night facilitating.

672
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 4: Seven eight assints, he was. Surgical You know and ray being,

673
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 4: Who he was. Ray was. Terrific You, know in milwaukee

674
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 4: big dog was you could book it twenty two. Points

675
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 4: A Game Jason hard Jason.

676
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: Hard draft jr.

677
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 3: Coaching now, Him his career Like me and jay were

678
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 3: still on the bench and watch every game and we

679
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 3: would book It that big dogs gonna get twenty two.

680
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 4: Points of games. Like book it and he.

681
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 3: Was, so talented man that team was probably could have

682
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 3: continued for a. Championship, FOR real.

683
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: Yeah i should Have. PLAYED the leger i felt like

684
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: seventy six they cheated for.

685
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 4: The.

686
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: Seventy six man.

687
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 4: We believe that we believe.

688
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: That, For sure, Williams, i'm sorry yeah, you, MY guy man,

689
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: I love, YOU but MAN i just i got a.

690
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 4: Story for you. Later.

691
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: ON too yeah i, talked about that this seventy. Six

692
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: IS man but i Felt, like them buck, because you

693
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 2: Know We was, League past fanatics Like We watched league

694
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: pass in every game because back then you had a killer.

695
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 2: On every team. All the TEAMS was like i had

696
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 2: somebody that you. Wanted to watch so we used to

697
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: why the whole league passed until they weren't even showing

698
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: games no more, Every single day so we kind of knew.

699
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: What everybody did we didn't even have to look at

700
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 2: the scouting report because we was already watching games all

701
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 2: year of everybody but one. Of THE teams and i

702
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 2: knew Y'all beat, the LAKERS twice so i just knew

703
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: that y'all was Finna play the lakers in the. Championship

704
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: that year and y'all matched. Up very well y'all, had

705
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: big men y'all had power for small for y'all had

706
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: multiple of every position that was needed to Compete with the.

707
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 2: Lakers THAT year so i was expecting y'all, TO get THERE.

708
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 3: I, THINK q indeed, i, love Y'ALL man because i

709
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 3: gotta edu. Hate my, son, he's seventeen right he never. Saw,

710
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 3: us playing yeah you know a lot. Of young players

711
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 3: there's a lot of business history on our generation and.

712
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 4: Generations behind us and you, said.

713
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 3: It perfectly man we had absolute killers, in, The league

714
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 3: man and it's not. A biased statement it, may be

715
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 3: biased but it's. Just, a fact, yeah you know every night, you,

716
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 3: had KILLERS man and i. Learned So much The latrell's

717
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 3: free Wells And the mitch Richmonds And the Reggie Miller

718
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 3: and steve smith's and. It was great it was great players.

719
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 3: Left and right, Man Every night jamal mashburn.

720
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 7: Right, On The Oil Eddie, eddie johnston, man oh man,

721
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 7: they don't Remember like like cleveland was the worst TEAM

722
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 7: in The Nba, And Andre, miller andre miller he led

723
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 7: the league and assists on them and they.

724
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: Won eighteen games he. Led the league and they tell

725
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: you that like, it's, heat everywhere.

726
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 4: Anywhere AROUND.

727
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 3: Everywhere, so, i learned man. THAT rookie, year i learned and?

728
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 3: Can you gettested and y'all played obviously a lot y'all learned.

729
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 3: ON the court i learned from watching. That, whole year

730
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 3: man just the talent and league and like how to

731
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 3: conduct yourself with a professional on the court and, off the, court.

732
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 4: You, know and uh the work ethic.

733
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 3: Is another level and so being the first one in

734
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 3: the gym and the last one the league.

735
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 6: Hallmark and, a real thing not like not.

736
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 5: On no bs you see a Lot Of these like

737
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 5: i've worked in the league and seen a lot of

738
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 5: what they call like now they call.

739
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 6: It fake hustle motherfucker's ticking around.

740
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 5: Or showing up but you, ain't you there but you ain't,

741
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 5: really doing that You know, what i'm saying?

742
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 6: Like like bullshit like You know, what, i'm saying.

743
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 5: Like either you're gonna get it in and get up,

744
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 5: out of, there not like don't just linger around trying

745
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 5: to be the last boy to get up out of

746
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 5: here and make it seem like you, did something like

747
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 5: don't nobody, care who's last as long as you come

748
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 5: early and get, your shit in and you stay after

749
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 5: and get. Your shit in staying the longest don't mean

750
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 5: nothing as long as you.

751
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 6: Get it, in.

752
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 3: Come ON bro so i got a story on that.

753
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 3: My second year it's taught me. To play more and

754
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 3: So y'all Remember tim gergerch Tim my Guy tim to

755
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 3: vegas and work out with him and work out him the,

756
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 3: summertime this particular he was With us in milwaukee and

757
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 3: he was assigned to me to, get you know develop

758
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: me and. Get me better, so we, practicing were practicing

759
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 3: and so we practice and then after practice we go.

760
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 3: Another two hours ME and gird i work. OUT so

761
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,479
Speaker 3: hard i get to the locker room and pass out.

762
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 4: IN the saw i.

763
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,479
Speaker 3: Just pass out they, get the, ambulance you know all

764
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 3: of that, squad or whatever and get me.

765
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 4: TO the hospital i stayed somewhat overnight a little bit to.

766
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 3: THE early mornings i get out, of the hospital go

767
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 3: to practice the NEXT day and i get to Practice and, Coach, gerty,

768
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: said mike uh you saw.

769
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 4: You JUST soft but i know what he was doing

770
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 4: in the mindset y'all. Go back then it was it.

771
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: Was Like that that's, Gary personality too that's.

772
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 4: How he is it is. Joking with me but you're.

773
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 3: Just soft kid You JUST saw, AND i said. I

774
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 3: get it. I get it my workoutic has to go.

775
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 3: TO another level.

776
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 5: I get it, tell me this how was it like

777
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 5: you talk about that like your first year you, don't

778
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 5: really play? You see it why to average? Like two

779
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 5: points then you go like your second year you getting you?

780
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 5: Average eleven points you, in the game you and You know.

781
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 5: What i'm saying you're showing that you could shoot shoot.

782
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 5: Forty four percent tell me how different and how different

783
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 5: that was and how much better it felt for, You to,

784
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 5: KNOW like say i put it into Work and now

785
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 5: i'm Getting at least i'm.

786
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 4: Getting. THE look yeah i went. To the season off

787
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 4: season They Had.

788
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 3: TRADED lindsay hunter, i, was like oh there's an opportunity

789
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 3: A gym working i was in the gym working out

790
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 3: that summer and one of my homeboys came to the

791
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 3: gym and, he was like why They Just. Traded lindsay

792
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 3: hunter so you're gonna play, the ship like we'll, see

793
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 3: you know They Might put tim thomas at the. Two

794
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 3: or Whatever we played utah the first game of The

795
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 3: Year and george carl comes up to, me, And, says

796
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: hey mike you on'ly gonna play four minutes a.

797
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 4: Game this. Year that's it four. Minutes a, game, i'm

798
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 4: like okay what? Type of seeds how did you come up?

799
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 4: With that number? BEFORE you four i had a.

800
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 3: GREAT training camp i came, in great shape. Ready to,

801
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 3: go he said, You know what you've earned the right

802
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 3: to play four.

803
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 4: Minutes of. Games he said he had to be. Fucking he,

804
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 4: was he.

805
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 3: Was HE was so i go, in the game first

806
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 3: game of The, GEAR against utah i go, two for two.

807
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 4: SCORE four points i don't play the rest. OF the

808
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 4: GAME i think i had.

809
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 3: TO prove myself i had to EARN his trust i

810
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 3: had to earn my teammates trust THAT year d i

811
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 3: wound up averaging twenty one minutes a game and average

812
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 3: eleven points a game and kind of worked my way.

813
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 3: In was, consistent you Know playing With glenn And. Ray

814
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 3: and sam you don't get wide open shots in tent

815
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 3: so my job was. To be efficient IT is possible

816
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 3: i can't shoot anything Less than because i'm, getting wide,

817
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 3: open and, so you know, game after game, AT the

818
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 3: game i begin to earn my teammates trust and then

819
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 3: we had obviously have. Some big moments, MY second year

820
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 3: i think my breakout Game, was AGAINST houston but i

821
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 3: had twenty nine points, in THE game but i had

822
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 3: all the points in, the fourth quarter.

823
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 5: Basically when you hit the eight threes. And, four threes

824
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 5: yeah that was like the most been a history. In

825
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 5: the Quarter it was clay, BROKE it obviously i think

826
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 5: about six.

827
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 3: Seven YEARS ago but i had three points in, the

828
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 3: first corner then played the rest, of the game hit

829
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 3: a three and then set the best rest. Of the

830
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 3: game came in the fourth quarter, and went, crazy and

831
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 3: uh the rest was.

832
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 4: History after that how.

833
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 2: Did you feel When they traded ray and they committed

834
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: to you to, Fulfill that void like? Was you surprised

835
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 2: like how was your how? Was YOUR feeling because I,

836
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: know losing ray but now this. Is your opportunity they

837
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 2: expect you to do what they Just. Lost in ray

838
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: and they didn't bring another two guard. Back over there

839
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 2: they brought a. Point guard back so they expect you

840
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: to step up and do what you're.

841
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: Supposed to, do.

842
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 4: And yeah which, was our, draft, you know yeah Unbelievable

843
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 4: that three.

844
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 5: They want to go see, a Dunk package go google

845
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 5: and YouTube his.

846
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 6: His, dunk highlights, boy good lord.

847
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 2: That three sixty. Between the legs that was THE first

848
00:36:58,800 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: time i ever seen.

849
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 5: That just anything, well he thunk so it was like

850
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 5: it was, the explosive though like you know how people

851
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 5: got bounced and then you go he had like it,

852
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 5: was like disruptive bounced the way he because everything.

853
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 6: Was so electric he dunked that big old than.

854
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 4: The motherfucker, boy.

855
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 3: Super athletic probably THE most athletic d in the league,

856
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 3: at the time one, of them real definitely one, of the.

857
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 3: Top no question and so. The trade Happens, we're in

858
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 3: seattle and It, happens in seattle and it was better

859
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 3: because right was my mentor like we, did everything, together

860
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 3: you know, on the court, off the court and like

861
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 3: my big brother and he's. Our best, PLAYER i'm like

862
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 3: i remember Talking, to, coach carls like why don't we

863
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: trade our best? Player just now, and he said, you know,

864
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 3: why he said because it's. YOUR team, now. I said,

865
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 3: wow back then, as y'all know, it, was rare rare

866
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 3: rare or second round late second round pick to take

867
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 3: over as a franchise guy.

868
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 4: Of, a team, yeah oh yeah.

869
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 3: And so you know that was, like unheard, of you

870
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 3: know and, so for me it was validation with the

871
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 3: HARD work that. I put in obviously sad that my big,

872
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 3: bro was leaving but he deposited me a LOT to

873
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 3: where i can be able to handle it at that point,

874
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 3: and to, be you know, the franchise, guy you, know

875
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 3: like wow are? You kidding me you know the responsibility, with.

876
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 3: That too dde so it, was a shot but, it,

877
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 3: was like. Wow it's here, it took now it took

878
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 3: me three four years, to GET here and i think that's.

879
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 4: Something that's. Missing you know you guys.

880
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 3: Understand young players, want things now but not understanding or embracing.

881
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 4: The process right it takes time sometimes to get to

882
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 4: where you want to get what they, ask exactly.

883
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 3: Right exactly RIGHT so like i think you can appreciate

884
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 3: what you get when you go through, process and struggle if.

885
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 2: That makes sense you picked the ball up and, ran

886
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 2: with it though you fuck up, AND.

887
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 5: Tell, me i mean like you said you talked about

888
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 5: being a. SECOND round pick, i, felt like like do

889
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 5: you look back in hindsight because you got a chance,

890
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 5: to come up like? What was that and, after two

891
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 5: years after two, thousand and two you got a, chance

892
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 5: to sign You know, what i'm saying because you were a,

893
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 5: second round pick so you got the twelve, million right There,

894
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 5: even though, dallas you know they signed you and Matched,

895
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 5: you from dallas they, kept you there, but then yell.

896
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: You would Have went to dallas over there with.

897
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 5: Dirt oh man but still Though that's whatever, i'm talking

898
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 5: about him being that second round pick and then coming

899
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 5: and Getting the twelve then when we all about to

900
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 5: sign our Extension is black you got to think about

901
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 5: we signing, our first extension he doing his second extension getting.

902
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 5: Ninety a max, you know that You feel, What i'm

903
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 5: saying so like did you look at, that like yeah

904
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 5: like okay it. Win had win but this was a

905
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 5: blessing in disguise for me because of the way. The

906
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 5: chips fail it played out way more in your favorite

907
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 5: than you.

908
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 4: Could, ever imagine yeah it.

909
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 3: Was a blessing it was a blessing in disguise, because

910
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 3: you know it's, all, about perspective right and so ablem is.

911
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 3: Always an issue it's how you see the problem or

912
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 3: see the challenge. That's the issue and, so for me

913
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 3: last half full. MORE than empty i, got AN opportunity

914
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 3: but i was restricted after, that second YEAR and so

915
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 3: i almost Went To mephis jerry wessell reached. Out to

916
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,959
Speaker 3: ME it was Gm with the grizzlies, at the time

917
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 3: and they're trying to get me To. Go To memphis

918
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 3: but milwaukee, was telling everybody we're gonna match every offer

919
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 3: that comes Our, way from Mike and so dallas came

920
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 3: in at The last Minute. MILWAUKEE match dallas i missed

921
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 3: like a week of training camp for a couple days.

922
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 4: OF training campers i set out the whole time not

923
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 4: knowing if that's going to.

924
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 3: Happened or not but it worked out que to your

925
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: point in, that regard, FINANCIALLY and no.

926
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,479
Speaker 5: I remember it i was like bro like this man

927
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 5: just LOOK because like i was, happy for it, cause

928
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 5: you know, like you said go back to the draft and.

929
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 5: THE whole process, i was like, this is? Bullshit what's

930
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 5: happening but it was we all kind of FOUND like,

931
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 5: like i say all of the. Guys that whatever when

932
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 5: you look, at the redraft you see, who it was

933
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 5: and we made our way through it and it happened the.

934
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 5: Way it HAPPENED but like i can literally you remember

935
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 5: talking to my, partners, about, that like man that man

936
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 5: went second about.

937
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 6: To get ninety He Just, MADE All Stars nba third,

938
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 6: team on y'all it was like? What tim up? Like

939
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 6: when crazy and How Was The?

940
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: All star game for you to be in there with

941
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 2: the best of the best and you seeing all these

942
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 2: names and now you one of them guys walking in that.

943
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 4: Room with.

944
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 3: Them it was it Was surreal, to q's point having

945
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 3: gone deep and second round and making it. To that

946
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,919
Speaker 3: point but the year before Was MJ's Last all Star,

947
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 3: Yeah game atlanta you guys were there and So crazy,

948
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 3: In atlanta too traffic. Everywhere was CRAZY and so i

949
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 3: remember Being At The all star game in two thousand

950
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 3: and three Watching MJ's last.

951
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 4: All star game but they had me up.

952
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 3: In the bleachers they had me, up WELL up and

953
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: i had my homeboy had a, suit on it and

954
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 3: my homeboy was sitting right. Next TO me and i

955
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 3: looked at, it and said, YOU know what i was

956
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 3: getting kind of like mad while, Watch a game like

957
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 3: the competitive nature was rising.

958
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 4: UP in me, i was like, You know what i'm

959
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 4: gonna be in this.

960
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 1: Game one day that was a good. Ass game too

961
00:41:59,520 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: it was.

962
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 4: A great game i.

963
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 2: Wanted to be they don't even play them. Games like

964
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: that and That was when kobe. Messed up History.

965
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 5: KOBE ring history mj hit the fadeaway on Tricks and then, kobe, said,

966
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 5: no no no. HE came, back i, said, come on man,

967
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 5: come on man you messing Up history cod.

968
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 6: But that's crazy that, was the, mentality.

969
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 3: The, mentality you. Know exactly Right and so i'm in

970
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 3: the bleachers. In my suit you're not even closing the.

971
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 3: Floor OR anything and i, SAID my Homeboy i said

972
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 3: i'm gonna be in this. Game one day he looked

973
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 3: at me, like all, right, like okay. Sure like okay the,

974
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 3: VERY next year i was in THE game and, i,

975
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 3: was like wow the, power, of words right having vision,

976
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 3: and tenacity man AND so like I was In Houston

977
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 3: and larry harrisgian, at the time came to the back.

978
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 3: Of the, bus he said. YOU made it i Said made,

979
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 3: what he's Like You Made. ALL star team, i was,

980
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 3: Like oh wow like it was a, dream come, true

981
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 3: you know play with all the great players. At that

982
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 3: time and then the funny, thing about it d we

983
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 3: Down Three and rick carlile caused the last.

984
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 4: Play for me, which, Is surreal right and so it

985
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 4: was crazy because he called me.

986
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,919
Speaker 3: UP a BENCH i think i had like twelve points

987
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 3: or somebody got in the game. And Played well so

988
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 3: rick carl that caused his. Play for, me i'm like you.

989
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 3: Call it me You, got j Kid, you got vince You,

990
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 3: got t max you got all these great Players On The,

991
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 3: east paul pierris you calling? Me? All right cool and

992
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 3: so he called the last, play for me. Which is

993
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 3: incredible THE problem Was I had kobe kg jump out.

994
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 4: At, me context three.

995
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 3: So it was it was hard to, get IT off

996
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 3: but i got IT off and i just. Barely missed,

997
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 3: it so uh but it was surreal To Be an

998
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 3: all star.

999
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 2: Man at the end. Of that year You MADE. An

1000
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 2: all nba that's like the icing, on, the, cake like

1001
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: yeah how? To hit well to hear you YOU made

1002
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 2: all nba utah fifteen guys.

1003
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 4: In the league? HOW was?

1004
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 3: That, I cried man it was like hard work pays.

1005
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 3: Off self, belief you know you got believe in yourself and.

1006
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 3: Better on yourself and, so you know for me to,

1007
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 3: make you know a top fifteam you know roster as

1008
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 3: far as PLAYERS in the nba was surreal and so

1009
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 3: it just but that motivated me to. Like get, BETTER

1010
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 3: you know i, WANT more success i want to, have

1011
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 3: more achievements and so. It's pushed me but to be

1012
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 3: a top fifteam player in the league was like CRAZY

1013
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 3: from where.

1014
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 5: I came from, tell, me, this like well when they

1015
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 5: came to you and you your agent whoever brought, it

1016
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 5: to you and they said they try and give you

1017
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 5: a six year ninety one ninety dollars like, ninety one

1018
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 5: million that like what was you and what the? Hell's

1019
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 5: you think could? You believe it like, like you said

1020
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 5: you a. Second round pick then went from that to,

1021
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 5: getting the franchise MAKING All The nba all star. And

1022
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 5: all that now now it's the biggest pay day and that's,

1023
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 5: like Back, then that's max.

1024
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 6: That's max money.

1025
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 5: Biggest it yet and it's like this has never happened

1026
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 5: the second round pick this load going and getting that,

1027
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 5: Type of money like what was you thinking first of?

1028
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 3: All six years not ey one main as mid Level, Exceptional,

1029
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 3: MONEYS today.

1030
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 5: Yeah i, know that's right that's a drop in. The bucket,

1031
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 5: today that's sorry we. CAN start there.

1032
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 4: I.

1033
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 2: Might not say look to, you guys now but back

1034
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 2: then it was big, ninety.

1035
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 4: One man like.

1036
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 5: He is Ninety One and jason tatum just, signed five. Three,

1037
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 5: fifth teen listen.

1038
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: They look like that ship.

1039
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 6: That's my name that happened.

1040
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 4: To, Me, Before man man i'm.

1041
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 3: Happy, for him yeah all the bargain agreements back, in

1042
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 3: you know back, in the day we.

1043
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 4: Fought for.

1044
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 3: This, we're happy yeah happy for. These, young fellows, man.

1045
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 3: Get it man, but back then, to your point that was,

1046
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 3: a big. Deal YOU know, AND i REMEMBER i remember

1047
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 3: i Was going To cleveland and lebron Was obviously in cleveland,

1048
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 3: at The Time and ray, ray, called, me said man

1049
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 3: what are YOU.

1050
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 4: Doing, back i said, it makes sense. It makes sense

1051
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 4: so so.

1052
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 3: It was surreal me and my fiance at the time with,

1053
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 3: my wife now like we were sitting, by the phone

1054
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 3: and We had The clippers in seattle and all, these

1055
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 3: TEAMS calling and, i was like nobody wanted me, four.

1056
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 4: Years ago, five years ago but, everybody calling, now you know.

1057
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 3: It's Just crazy and cleveland called Me and, then milwaukee

1058
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 3: said we willing to give you the max, whatever you want,

1059
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 3: blah blah blah Like what oh, and so yeah. It,

1060
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 3: was crazy man, It, was again man. Cried my, dad it,

1061
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 3: was you know one of the happy days. Of my

1062
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 3: life and then how we all grew. UP right neitherss

1063
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 3: i don't have to say. More than, that you know,

1064
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 3: we grew, up you know with not much, or you

1065
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 3: know so to have that, access to, that you know it.

1066
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 4: Was like, amazing, so yeah man just. An.

1067
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 3: INCREDIBLE day Man i appreciate milwaukee because they had, stuck

1068
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 3: with me, believed in, me you know from being that

1069
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 3: second round pick to now being.

1070
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 4: The franchise guy it was, a, surreal moment.

1071
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: Man first millionaire.

1072
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: In the family man, Changed it changed man started training

1073
00:46:55,040 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: in the family when you was announced to be one

1074
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: of the guys to PLAY for, the usa team, because

1075
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 2: you know we got these, levels from college, from high

1076
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 2: school like we want To, be all americans we want

1077
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: to win the whole.

1078
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 1: Thing in college we want to make.

1079
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 2: The McDonald's game we want to be. Number one pick

1080
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 2: it's all these statues that you. Want to get but

1081
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 2: everybody want to PLAY with the usa. Across the chest

1082
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: it's only thirteen guys. That can go you heard you

1083
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 2: can be PART of the usa team and the team

1084
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 2: that they was bringing with you to play, with you,

1085
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: like you know that's the best team in the world.

1086
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 5: At the, time you, know right, right right right you

1087
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 5: heard that they got Drafted. To the avengers you just

1088
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 5: got you.

1089
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: Just got ninety. Two years ago and, then next, year

1090
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: you know you PART of. The usa team one.

1091
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 3: Thing after another begin to start happening like great thing

1092
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 3: after great thing, after great things, and was, amazing you

1093
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,919
Speaker 3: know to get The Call. FROM jerry colangelo i had knew,

1094
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 3: at that, POINT you know i was probably one of

1095
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 3: the best shooters, in the world if, not the best,

1096
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 3: at that STRETCH and so i knew it was gonna

1097
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 3: get a call because of the four we need a Shooting.

1098
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,479
Speaker 3: In The olympics and jerry called me, And, he said

1099
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 3: mike we need you. ON the, team. I SAID wow

1100
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 3: so i went For interview With. Jerry, and chicago, ACTUALLY

1101
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: after practice i Went down to chicago And. Meet with

1102
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 3: jerry he was meeting all, of us individually, AND you, Know,

1103
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 3: i said jerry before we, START the INTERVIEW i got

1104
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 3: i got to change. TO a, SUIT i said i

1105
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 3: want to approach the situation and. The interview professionally then

1106
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 3: we changed out of these warm us and then we

1107
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 3: put on the suit And so we, he was like.

1108
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 4: You don't have, to do, that, but like, okay like

1109
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 4: wow because THAT was what. I was doing i, Was

1110
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 4: making sure i'm, Gonna make sure i'm want to see

1111
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 4: you Straight up and i'm going to.

1112
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 6: Impress.

1113
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: You, guys approach.

1114
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 3: Yeah HUNDRED percent so i approached like a real, interview

1115
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 3: and uh to be ON that TEAM q and, d,

1116
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 3: was like wow represent, your country obviously and being one

1117
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 3: of the top player in the world again to bring

1118
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 3: back GLORY to the us with That was.

1119
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 5: The redeemed team that's, the other part because y'all would

1120
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 5: have team, after they lost y'all woulda team tasked with

1121
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 5: fixing what. Had went wrong so that was a big

1122
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 5: deal for the first team after it had, shown, it

1123
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 5: Like oh, the america's team?

1124
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 6: Ain't they lost how.

1125
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 5: Did that happen and it's THE other part i want, to,

1126
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 5: ask you like because when, we grew, up you know

1127
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 5: we had obviously ninety two was the first year they

1128
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 5: flipped it over and it was. A dream team like

1129
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 5: at any point was, you, thinking like yeah they ain't

1130
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 5: calling it. That NO more but i just made dream

1131
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 5: team like whatever number, it would be Like from when jordan.

1132
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 5: THEM did it i LOOKED at every usa teams like,

1133
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 5: the dream team like whether, it, was two three, four

1134
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 5: or five like owner and. On and on did you

1135
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 5: get that feeling Like dog like i'm in those?

1136
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 3: Footsteps? Right now absolutely and so? WHAT was INTERESTING? D

1137
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 3: and q and can you remember this university? The, university team,

1138
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 3: yeah In college so i'm played for the. College, university

1139
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 3: team YEAH the team i won, THAT go yeah i

1140
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 3: want that.

1141
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 4: GO exactly. RIGHT i was i was on the, gold as.

1142
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 4: Well exactly right and so it was.

1143
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 3: An incredible experience so we got almost like farm systems from,

1144
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 3: that point, On you know and so it was it was.

1145
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 3: A cool process but like to be, on that team

1146
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 3: the senior, team was unbelievable and the practices every day

1147
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 3: to be, with You know the kobe's and the D

1148
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 3: Ways And, Lebron's Jay, Kids Darren, WILLIAMS chris paul i

1149
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 3: mean to be, With Those Guys, tay Shawn Princes the

1150
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 3: White chris Bosh, On. On cars boozer it was an

1151
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 3: incredible team and it couldn't help but, get better practice choose.

1152
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 3: That every day so but, the thing was and you,

1153
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 3: guys notice remembers it was a. Three year process so, it,

1154
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 3: wasn't like.

1155
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1156
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 3: THAT'S exactly right i got married that, year In six

1157
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 3: so jerry gave me an excuse not to be able

1158
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 3: to be.

1159
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 4: On that team came back In seven, with kobe eight

1160
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 4: and then obviously.

1161
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 2: We made, history wait speaker, At the Time kobe and

1162
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 2: lebron is the two biggest. Things in basketball just speak

1163
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 2: on both of their presence. On that, team you know

1164
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 2: We watched the Netflix series Of, the redeem team, And

1165
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 2: you know lebron it seemed like he was more of

1166
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 2: the laughter, and you know, keeping People loose and kobe

1167
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,760
Speaker 2: was keeping people up on what's, now we finish still

1168
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 2: gotta be focused and We ain't playing and just how

1169
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: he approached everything and instead of him scoring how, he

1170
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: always scored he was looking. To play defense he was

1171
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 2: looking to, do other things but just speak on them

1172
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 2: too at the time being the, biggest in basketball and

1173
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 2: how they committed and took stuff away from their game

1174
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 2: just to be a part of that team and make.

1175
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: That team work.

1176
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 4: I'm really a documentary this summer.

1177
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 3: About my Experience another redeem team documented Came out on

1178
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 3: netflix a couple.

1179
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 4: Of Years ago but.

1180
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 3: I'm releasing my own perspective of Mine On the michael

1181
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 3: red app in.

1182
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,240
Speaker 4: The app store i'm going to. Be Launching.

1183
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 3: That.

1184
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 2: MICHAEL red damn. I, like that boy just do, that

1185
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,919
Speaker 2: out there came let.

1186
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 6: That slide out never, like we, like hold.

1187
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 5: On, get, that yeah man don't? Run, that, Up man,

1188
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 5: man god. Damn, WE subscribed no.

1189
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 4: I appreciate it. I.

1190
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 3: Appreciate it guys it's funny you mentioned THAT d n q,

1191
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 3: about The experience Because i'm a i'm gonna launch a

1192
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 3: documentary on that on my app and talk. More about

1193
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 3: That but like lebron was younger, at the, time twenty,

1194
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 3: three you know so he was just full of life

1195
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 3: like he. Still is today but, like, just Funny jovial

1196
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 3: and kobe was adapting to being with the team, at

1197
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 3: the time and it was so funny to watch both

1198
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 3: alphas obviously huge personalities and.

1199
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 4: Their own, right and uh it.

1200
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 3: Was moments where lebron was just Curious of like kobe,

1201
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 3: how he rolls and we would talk ABOUT it whatever

1202
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 3: I knew because I was older kobe, A year apart

1203
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 3: god rest his soul, and so like So me J

1204
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 3: kid and kobe like the elder states one, of the team,

1205
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 3: and so uh it was funny to watch the young

1206
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 3: Group With.

1207
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 4: Mellow chris paul lebron d way.

1208
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 3: They Were younger but kobe. Man was incredible kobe was

1209
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 3: funny and, it's Own right but lebron was obviously just

1210
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 3: the life. Of the team and they worked so well

1211
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 3: together when the media or people may have perceived that they,

1212
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 3: was not close but they worked so well together and.

1213
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 4: It, was dynamic man both of, those guys together.

1214
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 2: It was incredible and you see guys GO to the

1215
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 2: usa teams and you compete against each other for, so

1216
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 2: many years but then they PLAY on the usa team

1217
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 2: and they win their goal together and it seems like

1218
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 2: they got. A lifelong bond it's. Just something different they come.

1219
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: Back from that, it's still competitive, but something changed You know,

1220
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 2: What i'm saying like when they don't PLAY, in the

1221
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 2: usa and they just been competing every year and not

1222
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 2: being on. Each other team then they play together that

1223
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 2: one summer and then after, that they compete but it'd be.

1224
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: A little bitter i released a little bit of this,

1225
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: animosity towards, you because.

1226
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 3: Right, like with US right when, i see, y'all my hug, y'all's,

1227
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 3: neck off right we, Hug each other we. Love each

1228
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,439
Speaker 3: other it's a bond when you PLAY, in the nba it's, hard,

1229
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 3: to describe right same THING with the us team, to

1230
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 3: THIS day when, i see everybody it's just love and,

1231
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 3: hugs and whatever and we. Have a bond and, to

1232
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 3: your point we start calling each other and then like

1233
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 3: this whole, thought, of like man what if?

1234
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 4: We, played together man.

1235
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 3: Be interesting if, you, played together right because back then,

1236
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 3: we all know like we wanted to be, with our

1237
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 3: team and we'll go down.

1238
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 4: With the team we'll sink.

1239
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: With, the team yeah TRADING jerseys and i want to.

1240
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 4: BEAT you now i want to.

1241
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 3: Beat you more to, compete with, you you know but,

1242
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 3: like that, team you know the young, guys, is like

1243
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 3: man we playing and, then you know we were thinking

1244
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 3: like that, a little bit like.

1245
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 4: WE played together i think that.

1246
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 3: Was a seed that we saw Grow into what lebron

1247
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,919
Speaker 3: made That move to miami to Play With D wade

1248
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 3: chris bosh and so we all had a lot of

1249
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 3: conversations about like teaming each other and how that would

1250
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 3: look because we enjoyed each other so much and it.

1251
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 4: Was like fun and so. It.

1252
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 3: WAS right man i remember just getting better and better working,

1253
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 3: with those guys and then all of a sudden during

1254
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 3: the season we would call each other and like check in,

1255
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 3: with each other and, TO, your point d we got to,

1256
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 3: beat each other but like we just had a love, for.

1257
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 3: Each other man and it was three years, of, being, together.

1258
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 3: Breakfasts practices lunches it was correct every summer. We're living

1259
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 3: together so that bomb was, there for. Sure no question.

1260
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 5: Tell me this go you fast forward, to oh wait

1261
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,439
Speaker 5: and this is when you had the knee injury TOWARD

1262
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 5: a c L and mc l and you got to

1263
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 5: sit out the remainder. Of the season, tell, me How

1264
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 5: like because I'VE listened to d talk about, this a

1265
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 5: lot And you know i'm saying obvious, see OTHER peers

1266
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 5: but d directly because he had knee. Injuries and stuff

1267
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 5: tell me how that. Impacted you mentally two thousand and.

1268
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 3: Eight we went to go met on five months six

1269
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 3: months later ten My a cl so you have the

1270
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 3: high and, the highs.

1271
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 4: Right and then two thousand and nine you have the loads.

1272
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 4: And loads right and my body.

1273
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 3: Was JUST tired and i, remember thinking, that you know,

1274
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 3: THAT whole season i Would, tell kach, kles, you know

1275
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 3: like my body.

1276
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 4: Is just tired that low manage was the thing at all.

1277
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 3: At that time at all you're gonna play thirty we want,

1278
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 3: to every night four games. And five, nights you know

1279
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 3: you getting paid handsome leader to perform and show.

1280
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 2: Up, every night well we really weren't getting paid handsomely

1281
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 2: compared to what's, going on now but we was getting.

1282
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 1: Paid all right.

1283
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 5: Time that hand We had old we had our whole

1284
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 5: old heads looking at us like what the same way

1285
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 5: we're looking at these boys getting we. Happ before him,

1286
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 5: we have, like trust me it. Was a lot it

1287
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 5: was a lot when our money went like that, looked like, well.

1288
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 2: Good, lord nine million like what like.

1289
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 3: Like YOU know and i remember a lot of old

1290
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 3: hands you played in the, eighties, and, nineties like boy you

1291
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 3: got a.

1292
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 4: Lot of money so it's, the same.

1293
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 3: Thing you know TO your point d and, so you

1294
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 3: know you go through that and you have the highs

1295
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 3: and highs and, loads and loans and so when it

1296
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 3: first happened the first, time and nine there. Was, Still

1297
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 3: optimism okay, i'll be, back. You know acls you come back,

1298
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 3: for short man being a. Man, of faith okay it's

1299
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 3: gonna work out, for the. Good you know And so

1300
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 3: like i'm in the locker room still, have, you, Know

1301
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 3: like okay i'll, be all right to set back. For

1302
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 3: a setup here, we go, again you know and then,

1303
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 3: you come. BACK you rehab i came. Back, TOO soon

1304
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 3: yeah i Had. SURGERY in march i was Playing again

1305
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 3: in september. At twenty nine so at twenty. Nine to

1306
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 3: thirty you can't come back so FAST. From an acl

1307
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 3: that'll be know that, now, Years later RIGHT and so

1308
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 3: i was playing on The Court.

1309
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 4: In september october went, through training camp still.

1310
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 3: Had little issues didn't know what, It, Was like man

1311
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 3: i'm still, not feeling right but back. Back playing. Again

1312
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 3: you know everything looked good the first half. Of the

1313
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 3: year We played the lakers and almost a year, TO

1314
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 3: the day, Q twenty ten I'm, POSTING up kobe i.

1315
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 3: MAKE a move i go up, negos OUT again and

1316
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 3: i look, at, my trainer like. ARE you serious i

1317
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 3: knew what IT was because i knew the feeling to

1318
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 3: have that back to back years like completely. Derailed my

1319
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 3: career and now when it happened THE second time i went, to,

1320
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 3: a depression man it was like really hard because you see,

1321
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 3: the whole, like, you, know, career yeah yeah, career just,

1322
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 3: Crumble you know AND so am i gonna?

1323
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 4: Come BACK again am i? Gonna be?

1324
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 3: Disabled you know i'm gonna be all these thoughts were going,

1325
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 3: through my. Brain you know and so my faith obviously,

1326
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 3: helped me tight but like it. Was still tough my,

1327
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 3: mom and, dad, my wife, kid you know, SO you know,

1328
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 3: i had support but it was. Still still TOUGH and

1329
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 3: so i set out that whole next year completely Came

1330
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 3: back in, march of eleven came back and played the

1331
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 3: last ten games in My, career IN milwaukee and i was.

1332
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 3: A free agent my time Was up, to milwaukee obviously

1333
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 3: but at THE time no q and, deal, was like

1334
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 3: man why does this? Happen to me LIKE All my

1335
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 3: us olympic teammates are, getting new, contracts they. Blessed they

1336
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 3: healthy the only one of that team like, going through.

1337
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 3: This you KNOW and so i remember praying about this

1338
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 3: And we think god takes prozac and that he worries.

1339
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 4: About our. Questions he doesn't and, HE was.

1340
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 3: Like I remember hearing i was, in PRAYER man and, I,

1341
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 3: was like god why do this? Happened to me and,

1342
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 3: he was like why can't it? HAPPEN to you, i,

1343
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 3: was like oh like?

1344
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 4: Why not?

1345
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 3: You why not why can you be an example to

1346
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 3: others on how to deal with tragedy or deal with

1347
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 3: challenges or, deal with adversity you know. Type of things

1348
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 3: so that got ME through and i came back obviously

1349
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 3: played my Last, year of phoenix just to come back

1350
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 3: TO prove that i could again play at a high

1351
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 3: level for myself more than anything.

1352
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: Me having all.

1353
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 2: These, knee SURGERIES man when i be seeing these guys,

1354
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 2: have knee surgery it's like a trauma thing instantly bring

1355
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 2: me back to maybe, think, about LIKE man because i

1356
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 2: know what they, Finna go, through like oh you already

1357
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:47,479
Speaker 2: down that you can't.

1358
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: Play no more but, as you down you can't.

1359
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 2: Play no more you gotta get up and constantly go

1360
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 2: to the gym and fight to get back to where

1361
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 2: you're not gonna be, one hundred percent but just get

1362
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 2: close to, where you were just to play at, this high,

1363
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 2: level you know trying to, persevere THROUGH everything and i

1364
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 2: just know mentally. That's a strain and when, you have

1365
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 2: one but then, you have another then it becomes a.

1366
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 2: Full time job, They don't know like it's like having kids.

1367
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 2: On your legs you gotta take care of them. Twenty

1368
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 2: four hours like you got to make sure you icing at.

1369
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 2: The right time you got to make. Sure you resting

1370
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 2: you can't be on your. Legs all day you just

1371
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 2: can't be horsing around how you used to or any.

1372
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 2: Of that stuff you got to protect your body and we,

1373
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 2: Don't know that like you don't know that until. You

1374
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 2: get hurt like we feel like we're superheroes because we

1375
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: never got hurt or we can't get hurt until. We

1376
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 2: get hurt, and, it's like man. They don't know that's like,

1377
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 2: a full time twenty, Four hours job like you can't

1378
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 2: do certain things because it might.

1379
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 1: Affect your body.

1380
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 3: That's exactly Right like the maiden that Last, Year In,

1381
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 3: phoenix phoenix women they want to give me a. TO

1382
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 3: your contract, I was like, I do one. I do

1383
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 3: one see.

1384
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 4: That maintenance program of every day stretching and bending and.

1385
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: Icing just to play and.

1386
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 3: JUST to play, i was like this is, for the birds,

1387
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 3: like you know and the rehab, to, your point d

1388
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 3: the rehab. Was A monster so i rehabed so HARD

1389
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 3: to when i became forty, FOUR forty five i wouldn't.

1390
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 4: Have, the issues yeah and, So thank god i'm. Doing

1391
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 4: well now i'm still athletic and, still CAN move. BUT i,

1392
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 4: don't i DON'T but like.

1393
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 3: I still trained but, like you know it was it,

1394
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 3: was a challenge not only physically but mentally, to, your.

1395
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: Point yeah yeah it's definitely.

1396
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 5: Tell me this how was it for you to get

1397
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 5: brought back and be Part of the you know that

1398
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 5: you went to the Parade when, the, bucks won right well.

1399
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 5: You got that how was that to be back in

1400
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 5: the city and, be you know get to be a

1401
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 5: part of that and get to field the vibes even

1402
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 5: though you know you didn't you weren't. On the team

1403
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,479
Speaker 5: but like just for the organization to reach out and show,

1404
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 5: love like that how WAS that?

1405
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 4: FOR?

1406
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 6: I know BJ was that bj. HAD the time bj had. Himself,

1407
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 6: for time.

1408
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 4: Hey, he did. Himself damn baby pretty much pretty much and, that's,

1409
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 4: his personality right that's. THAT'S shut Out, i Love brandon.

1410
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 3: Love Brandon man uh so He obviously coined bucks and

1411
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 3: six you know things.

1412
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 6: They worked properly so it was the star.

1413
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 3: Man for me, it, was emotional man because all those

1414
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 3: shoot arounds and. ALL those years I was in milwaukee

1415
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 3: for eleven years at the longest Tenure of any buck

1416
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 3: in THE history Until i think nis now is going.

1417
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 4: To do it. Chris may too they.

1418
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 3: Go twelve years but, like you know all, the shoot arounds,

1419
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 3: all the practices all The years, of milwaukee, laboring you

1420
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 3: know to. WIN the championship I stayed in milwaukee compared

1421
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 3: To going to cleveland and going to different organizations to

1422
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 3: see that day. Come the past and Like me and

1423
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:55,439
Speaker 3: jannis talk and we talked about how he committed To,

1424
01:02:55,480 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 3: staying in milwaukee, which is important and. Uh he stayed they. Won,

1425
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 3: a championship man it, was an. Incredible incredible parade chris obviously.

1426
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 3: TOOK my number i remember his second year, in the

1427
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 3: league my Retirement.

1428
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 4: Ceremony in milwaukee.

1429
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 3: We had a retirement ceremony set, up for, me a dutiful,

1430
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 3: very Emotional night and chris was wearing my jersey and

1431
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 3: he was on. THE training, table i said you know whose, jersey?

1432
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 3: That is, right, he, said yes sir he.

1433
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:22,919
Speaker 4: Need to put that. Thing up there.

1434
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 3: IT'S a, Thought i mean chris obviously has done an

1435
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 3: incredible job and fulfilled it, and done, more, you know

1436
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 3: Championships and so i'm proud of him. In his career

1437
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 3: but seeing those Two stay in milwaukee and what they

1438
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 3: did qu, to your point, was an amazing amazing experience

1439
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 3: and to be a part of the fans appreciated my contribution.

1440
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 3: To that, too you know all the long years, of

1441
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 3: you know holding, down for us.

1442
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 5: Tell me this you said YOU had an ai. STORY

1443
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 5: for US i wanted i need. To hear, that you

1444
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 5: know that's, that's our goat that's one of our, goats

1445
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 5: coming up You know.

1446
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 3: What i'm saying so a lot of people DON'T notice

1447
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 3: the ai spent a lot of time together before games

1448
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 3: and just talking me to our locker rooms.

1449
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 4: All THE time AND.

1450
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 3: I love ai he's one OF the guys i WANT

1451
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 3: to see i HAVEN'T seen, since i played since we.

1452
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 4: Played and so uh So we played.

1453
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 3: Philly one year we. Played four, games you know we

1454
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 3: used to do back, in the day four. Games A

1455
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 3: year so, Moi Was, like mike man we split. Two and, two,

1456
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 3: he said man you Played Well. Against philly man you

1457
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 3: have thirty six points a. Game four, games i'm, like

1458
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 3: he said The problem is ai, was forty eight so he.

1459
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 4: Was Minus twelve so mo has. Set me up he.

1460
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 4: SET me up i mean IT was.

1461
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 3: When i think about THE hardest guys i, had to, Guard,

1462
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 3: and Obviously cue obviously i'm gonna put you in, that

1463
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 3: ring too because you, were so physical like you used

1464
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 3: to try to post me up all the time and.

1465
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 3: So uh so so for me the, TOP three guys

1466
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 3: i started, WITH number three i. GOT it Four I

1467
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 3: say alan. HOUSTON number four I would say. Lebron number

1468
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 3: three now Most. People say, lebron, i'm like yeah because He.

1469
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 3: Was young lebron now he obviously he's more cerebral now

1470
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 3: than he was when. He was younger he was just,

1471
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:07,959
Speaker 3: an athletic bull as you guys.

1472
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 4: Know he was.

1473
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 3: He was Younger, number two kobe but he's one ONE

1474
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 3: B one a kobe.

1475
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 4: Speaks. For herself kobe, he was incredible as. We all

1476
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 4: know and Then.

1477
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 3: NUMBER one ai i would have to guard him a,

1478
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 3: lot of TIMES and like i had, to stay off

1479
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 3: stay off of him because he. Was so fast people

1480
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 3: don't realize how fast he was when you had to

1481
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 3: guard him.

1482
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 6: And we had no people.

1483
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 5: Was guarding him me you two guards They played ex

1484
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 5: noor the one in him in the two and we

1485
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 5: had no. Business guarding him and he used to he

1486
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 5: used to jump. Over, the trap bro remember the bunny hop.

1487
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 4: Over the trap and he.

1488
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 6: Used, to do yes they took it out of the

1489
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,479
Speaker 6: game because. HE was, cheating i mean.

1490
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 3: The dude, was fifty four, fifty forty eight like, just

1491
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 3: you know Shout Out.

1492
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 4: TO ai Man i love ai in his game and

1493
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 4: you know he was.

1494
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 3: Just special man so those are the top four guys

1495
01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 3: that just. Gave me work but you have so many

1496
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 3: great guards. At, the time again it's hard to pick out.

1497
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 5: A top ten hey tell, Me this though like, in

1498
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 5: the league, right like you you as an elite offensive, Shooter,

1499
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 5: and score like who was somebody that gave? You hell defensively,

1500
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 5: like like you they guard you when you. Got the

1501
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 5: ball who was some of Your.

1502
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 1: Fucking eric snow snow was just a dog got?

1503
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 4: That for real put.

1504
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 3: Them on me every single Time, We played cleveland lebron

1505
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 3: win while the NO of them wu guard me And

1506
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 3: Would put eric snow On. Me or, Philly YOU know

1507
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 3: raja i was always in, the Toughest Assignments So rajah

1508
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 3: bruce bowen.

1509
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 4: WAS just Annoying i love bruce. To This Day. Uh

1510
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 4: derrek fisher like small guards that can.

1511
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 3: Get underneath you those are the guards that that that

1512
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 3: really challenged me a lot. And stopped me but like

1513
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 3: they they. Could frustrate me, GUARDS my, HEIGHT i. COULD

1514
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 3: i could i could sometimes put length on me and that.

1515
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 3: Didn't work either really like, the smaller guards you like them.

1516
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 1: Loan jumpy motherfuckers You know. What i'm, saying, get right.

1517
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 4: Y'all don't.

1518
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 3: PLAY against me i wasn't, the MOST athletic so I

1519
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 3: had to i had to be crafty, with my, game

1520
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 3: man right and so.

1521
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 4: Y'all natural athletes but.

1522
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: You get that, up so.

1523
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 2: Fast man gone i'll tell you get that.

1524
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 6: That it's gone you're.

1525
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 4: Looking LIKE damn when.

1526
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 3: I worked OUT did what. I worked out i've worked

1527
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 3: out purposely to. Get off fast you're not gonna. Get

1528
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 3: get off so by the time, the game came it was.

1529
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 2: It was easy if you all the teammates you would

1530
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 2: have had did you don't play with in THE. N

1531
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 2: b a if you had to pick four to make,

1532
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 2: your ultimate team who?

1533
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 1: Would be them For counting?

1534
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 4: The olympic, TEAM.

1535
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah i guess?

1536
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 5: Did we know did we let People count? The olympic

1537
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 5: team we know people Didn't count. The, olympic, team okay, okay.

1538
01:07:56,200 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 4: All right shout out to all my teammates walking over.

1539
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 4: THE years too i. Love them All man.

1540
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 3: Oh Ray Obviously uh D mace d mas is like

1541
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 3: my Bodyguard man, the mason take he was.

1542
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 4: Like. My enforcer man.

1543
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: Remember you get you only get for to Make, It fare,

1544
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 1: okay so.

1545
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 4: Yeah wow you?

1546
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 6: At, The two yeah i'm.

1547
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 4: AT the two I Would Say Sam.

1548
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,480
Speaker 6: Sam sam mason.

1549
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 3: AND then uh i need A Big.

1550
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 4: Probably andrew, bogan oh Yeah Young.

1551
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 3: Both andrew young cerebral you know obviously won A Championship

1552
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 3: with gold state and had.

1553
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 4: A Great, CAREER but cerebral i play with things.

1554
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,680
Speaker 3: By One Year so Steve Nash and great hill they,

1555
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 3: were there too so, we Missed, Them, mister mari.

1556
01:08:55,280 --> 01:09:00,799
Speaker 2: Okay so this this Is A Start Bench trade Shooters

1557
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 2: Edition Story Bench. TRADE shooters edition I Already Know, REGGIE

1558
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 2: reggie miller i, Know That, Too Clay. Thompson ray allen you,

1559
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:16,719
Speaker 2: got a story one, got, a bench.

1560
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 1: One you got a Trade One Ah. MAN shooters edition.

1561
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 4: I probably should.

1562
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:29,640
Speaker 3: Say race starting i'm gonna say race starting because of

1563
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 3: the relationship That we Have. CLAY and reggie I. Played

1564
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:36,600
Speaker 3: against reggie.

1565
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 4: Reggie was. Screens trust me. OH my. Goodness i did

1566
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 4: Got to tell reggie and true. AND real person i.

1567
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 4: Used to hate clay.

1568
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 3: Broke, my, Record yeah man clay broke my record most. Threason,

1569
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 3: a quarter.

1570
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 6: Yeah you got four of them things too.

1571
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 4: OUT of respect i probably to cut Play. And bench.

1572
01:09:58,040 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 4: Reggie that's hard.

1573
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 5: That that's card hey, tell, me this man It's a

1574
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 5: question i'd. Like to know like we was all young at,

1575
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 5: A certain time like you signed for ninety one million

1576
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 5: dollars at.

1577
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 6: A certain time.

1578
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 5: What did red? High RIPPLESS do like i don't't hear

1579
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 5: about taking care of? Pops and mom like what did real?

1580
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 5: High ripplests do is? It a whip was it a

1581
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 5: what did you do to go treat use so that

1582
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 5: you look back on like that probably wasn't wasn't the

1583
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 5: SMARTEST thing, that i did, but my money but like

1584
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 5: it felt damn good.

1585
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 4: At THAT moment so i got to, start WITH mom

1586
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 4: and i Gotta Start.

1587
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 3: With MoMA dad so THE first thing i, DID was

1588
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 3: like i donated a lot of money to, my dad's

1589
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 3: church got him, a church man helped me.

1590
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,639
Speaker 4: Get, him, in church okay which was. Important to me so.

1591
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 3: He's helping people so THEN the second i went to

1592
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 3: the carl out and Took care of. Mom and dad

1593
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 3: my sister got a, brand new cars which is. Which

1594
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 3: is AMAZING and then i got so designating all they

1595
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 3: jokes on me ON the. Cars i, had you know

1596
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 3: we all had a lot of. CARS back then i

1597
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 3: GOT a Dently I read DENTLEY gt and i got,

1598
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 3: two of Them and range rovers and just All kind

1599
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 3: Of ferraris and lamborghinis and.

1600
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:03,680
Speaker 4: ALL that.

1601
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 6: Stuff a lot, this a lot but like this is

1602
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 6: the thing.

1603
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:08,759
Speaker 5: For me though this is a part of THE story

1604
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 5: that I like because i'm very good at.

1605
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,560
Speaker 6: THE comprehension skills i use. My context clues you use a.

1606
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 6: Lot of essens it wasn't like a Lot of rain ferrari's,

1607
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 6: LIKE you like i like the way this is.

1608
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 5: GOING go ahead i told The point that i'm paying

1609
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 5: attention to.

1610
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 6: My context clues you.

1611
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:34,759
Speaker 4: Gotta treat yourself.

1612
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 3: Not cheat yourself now again it's a moderation because you

1613
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 3: got that money gotta last.

1614
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 4: You for the rest, of, your life right.

1615
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 3: And so you're thinking along those lines a little bit at.

1616
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 3: THE time too i had a good. TEAM behind me

1617
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 3: i had sound people around me to help me with.

1618
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 3: Finances And whatnot and i'm gonna, study myself too like

1619
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 3: this is gonna last me.

1620
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 4: A little long but you got to.

1621
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 3: Treat yourself though and for me not having, much growing,

1622
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 3: up you know the first, inclination was like. It's SOMETHING

1623
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 3: fun and i, did do, that you know took care

1624
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 3: of my, wife and whatnot and like so, we did.

1625
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 3: Slurs you know and so we splurs and had enough

1626
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 3: to recover. From the slurs, that makes sense, so you know,

1627
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,719
Speaker 3: so you Know and again I'm an answau walker's story

1628
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 3: and different stories like that was like bleaming. In my

1629
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 3: head like we had other stories of guys working at

1630
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 3: car washings that played the. EIGHTIES and nineties, i, Was

1631
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 3: like yeah i'm, gonna Have fun but i'm gonna fall

1632
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 3: back just to hair and not, go too crazy YOU know.

1633
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 3: What i mean so built the crib and all that

1634
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:32,679
Speaker 3: and did that and got that out. Of my system

1635
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 3: but like watching the other examples of guys what they

1636
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 3: went through kind of had, me you, know oh yeah,

1637
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 3: all for sure, travel the world.

1638
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 4: Did all, that you know.

1639
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 5: We had fun ain't nothing wrong with tell, me this

1640
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 5: man you one of THE different guys, i feel like because,

1641
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 5: like you know everybody's On social media twitter or now, x, and,

1642
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 5: ig snapchat TikTok all. These different things you Get, down,

1643
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 5: On LinkedIn bro Like, WHAT'S that like i don't know? What,

1644
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:04,640
Speaker 5: that IS like, like i know it's like more, like

1645
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 5: you know like business and, stuff like that but like

1646
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 5: that shows social media platform when you, live.

1647
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 6: ON there huh i do.

1648
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:16,600
Speaker 3: A Lot of mentoring queuan business, with young entrepreneurs just

1649
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 3: talent across the country, and young leaders and so that's

1650
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 3: Been the platform i've kind.

1651
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 4: Of gravitated to the more and.

1652
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 3: Just the messaging there's a lot of overlap between what

1653
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 3: we did in, sports and business and that relates and

1654
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 3: correlates to a lot of the people who Follow. Me

1655
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:34,480
Speaker 3: on LinkedIn so it's been a tremendous platform and network

1656
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 3: with the, other business leaders buying, talent, for businesses opportunities

1657
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 3: and so it's been a great platform to kind of

1658
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 3: share Not only what i've been able to do, on

1659
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 3: the court but also the overlap in.

1660
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 4: Business as well you very big on.

1661
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 2: Investing in entrepreneurship, what made, you you know.

1662
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 1: Focused on that it's funny.

1663
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 4: D to you it's.

1664
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 3: A great question i go back to. What we played so,

1665
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 3: in labor disputes the narrative is always how much.

1666
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 4: The.

1667
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 3: Players make y'all remember all. The labor disputes players make.

1668
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 3: Too much money they make. Too much money right, in

1669
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 3: my mind halfway, THROUGH my career, i was like?

1670
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:14,679
Speaker 4: Who's paying us, oh private, Equity oh venture.

1671
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 3: Oh tech guys and so that began to like, shift

1672
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 3: my paradigmas like life AFTER basketball what i. Wanted to

1673
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 3: do and so there was a there was an organic

1674
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:26,839
Speaker 3: magnetism towards entrepreneurs because entrepreneurs you got, to better yourself

1675
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 3: YOU know what i mean, To be ENTREPRENEUR and so

1676
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 3: i just gravitated, to. That world man, and you know

1677
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 3: from that point on, start you know investing in startups

1678
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 3: and being an angel, investor in companies and then became

1679
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 3: a part of a fund.

1680
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 4: Ten years Ago Me and josh childrens are A part

1681
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 4: of josh.

1682
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 3: CHILDREN my Brother i loved josh doing this conference, later

1683
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 3: this month which is. Gonna be awesome and so one thing,

1684
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,600
Speaker 3: led to ANOTHER and then i Spoke At The New

1685
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 3: york sock exchange and uh about being from a PRO,

1686
01:14:59,040 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 3: to a ceo which is.

1687
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:00,839
Speaker 4: A credible Experience.

1688
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 3: Spoke at GOOGLE the former Ceo Of The New york

1689
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 3: stock exchange became my. Mentor and business and then one

1690
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 3: thing led to another and was on the Board of

1691
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 3: red box for a number of years before, we went

1692
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 3: public and just had all kinds of Experiences work with

1693
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:19,600
Speaker 3: snap in their incubator program with, startups and businesses, and you,

1694
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 3: know for me it was important not to be the

1695
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 3: face of something without knowing, how it works the intercals

1696
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 3: of how to, run a business to, start a business what,

1697
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 3: to look, for you know as far as, founders and

1698
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 3: operators and so going through that.

1699
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 4: Whole process was just. An incredible experience i've. STILL learned

1700
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 4: today i, don't KNOW everything and i have great mentors in.

1701
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 3: My life NOW but, like i think the one thing

1702
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 3: that was good for me d was like finding mentors

1703
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 3: whatever space you want, to get into next five people

1704
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 3: who've done it at a high level and begin to

1705
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 3: learn from them what they did right and what.

1706
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 4: They did wrong so that can help.

1707
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,719
Speaker 3: Accelerate Your career so i'm very young in, my investment,

1708
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 3: career business career ten, plus Years now but i've learned,

1709
01:15:57,640 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 3: so much man and it's been.

1710
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 4: An incredible journy.

1711
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 5: This IS something that i think being. D interested in

1712
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 5: we we all. Same dragt class we're all. Old and

1713
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 5: ship You know. WHAT i'm saying, I won't know i. Won't,

1714
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 5: believe it. No we're, old you, know remember waves remember

1715
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 5: that you want?

1716
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 4: To be bad.

1717
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:18,600
Speaker 6: Way about this you had To do rag me.

1718
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 5: And my boy You had to me and my boy

1719
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 5: used to be, competing that, time checking. Him he checking men,

1720
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 5: laugh at this, So.

1721
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 4: You Me, joe john lay We played the.

1722
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 3: Hawks one night, before the, game you know captains come

1723
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 3: at half court shake hands AND the, Woman, i said

1724
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 3: joe you.

1725
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 4: Know you cheating you put the s curl. On your hand.

1726
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 1: Joe used to be Waving.

1727
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 2: Man.

1728
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 4: Cheating joe joe joe got a.

1729
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 1: Big ass head it's just.

1730
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,719
Speaker 6: Round his head so this. Ship just, swirl.

1731
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 1: I'd like damn joe's.

1732
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Speaker 4: Definitely.

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Speaker 6: A true story we see EACH other and i see You,

1734
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Speaker 6: like you, okay.

1735
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 4: But, listen YOU know, like i.

1736
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 5: Said we old we want you got to deal With

1737
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 5: A company kingdom man with the nutritions in the in.

1738
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 6: The protein shakes?

1739
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 5: WHAT'S that about i to seeing you know my address is,

1740
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Speaker 5: on the Way so get i'm gonna.

1741
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Speaker 4: Call you offline you and the Offline on things.

1742
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:26,679
Speaker 3: I'm working on but like this Is It's powerful, Kingdom Kingdom,

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01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 3: candy kingdom. Shakes protein shakes it's all about wellness and

1744
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 3: taking care of your body as.

1745
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 4: We get older we.

1746
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 3: Got to take you got to be, worried about man

1747
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 3: you got you gotta be aware, of your intake taking care,

1748
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 3: of your body eating. The, right nutritions obviously this is

1749
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 3: A company that i am back because of of not

1750
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:51,600
Speaker 3: only because of what it provided, a nutrition standpoint but the. Affordability.

1751
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 3: Aspect too uh there's a lot of people who want

1752
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 3: to eat healthy who can't, afford, Eat healthy right and

1753
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 3: we have a lot of food deserts, around the country

1754
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 3: and so in, our, own neighborhoods right we can't.

1755
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 4: Afford whole foods if.

1756
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 3: It's so expensive so being able to buy nutrition for

1757
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,560
Speaker 3: people who cannot afford necessarily the whole Foods Or the

1758
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 3: trader jones or.

1759
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 4: What have you SO that's why i support The.

1760
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 2: Mission of kingdom what made you decide that you want

1761
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,640
Speaker 2: to do? Your own podcast create? Your, own podcast.

1762
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 3: YEAH it's interesting, i, LOVE stories man i love stories

1763
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 3: of people. HOW they overcame i think a lot of

1764
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 3: times we esteem people not, knowing their background and once we,

1765
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 3: hear their, background, it's like boy they were. Just like

1766
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 3: me and so the podcast is really a, labor of

1767
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 3: love like what you guys have done and built to

1768
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 3: share stories, to inspire people to encourage people. To better

1769
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 3: themselves and we did three. Seasons of those i'm going

1770
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 3: to revitalize that next year because we've been working on

1771
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 3: the Documentary of. The olympic experience but definitely we've had

1772
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 3: so many different guests, on the pod but it's been

1773
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 3: really a labor of love to inspire people around the

1774
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 3: world about taking, bets in themselves, believing in. Themselves self

1775
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 3: discovery we, have business leaders, we have athletes, we have

1776
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 3: entrepreneurs we have all kinds of different people.

1777
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 4: On the podcast that really really inspired a. Lot, of people,

1778
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 4: well you.

1779
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:12,480
Speaker 6: Know you, need us anytime you know knad.

1780
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 5: On the, way you know we bet on our love

1781
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 5: and we overcame a hell of a lot. We still

1782
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 5: overcome you're still. Betting, ON ourselves yeah i ain't got rid,

1783
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 5: of you yet But you know, i'm. Getting, THERE y'all, boy,

1784
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 5: i can't MAN that's what i got.

1785
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 3: IM gonna lie i used to watch y'all shoes shoe, game,

1786
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 3: every game right, just like okay they were to, night

1787
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 3: you know like besides the talent to have, the guards

1788
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 3: y'all which. Was a nightmare love playing against compete both

1789
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 3: of y'all. All, THE time man i.

1790
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 4: Got one more.

1791
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 2: QUESTION for you i know your dad is a big

1792
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:52,640
Speaker 2: part of your life when you was getting all these accomplishments,

1793
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 2: and you know all star, and gold medal and just

1794
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 2: remember over the years to see his face of being how,

1795
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 2: proud of you how proud was it to fulfill his

1796
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 2: dream of. You BECOMING something because i tell my kids,

1797
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 2: ALL the, TIME i said i feel like no man

1798
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:13,639
Speaker 2: in the world wants you to be a better, man

1799
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 2: than them. Than, your daddy like, not your uncle, not

1800
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 2: your friends like You know. What i'm saying only man

1801
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 2: in the world that wants you to be a better,

1802
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,680
Speaker 2: man than them. It's your daddy and when you have

1803
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:26,759
Speaker 2: a father and a lot of us don't have fathers.

1804
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 2: In our lives when you have a father that get

1805
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 2: a chance to see his son fulfill, all them dreams

1806
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 2: how was? That for you just try to fulfill them

1807
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 2: dreams for him and him to be.

1808
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 3: PROUD of you i was with yesterday, two days ago

1809
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 3: just hanging. Out with him we still reflect, the, most

1810
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 3: times man and.

1811
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 4: He's. So Proud yeah and i'll never be the man.

1812
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 3: That he is but like, he's, MORE successful man i

1813
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 3: know in life, and you know committed to my mom

1814
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 3: passes a small ministry that you know for this powerful

1815
01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 3: like all the things. That he's done so he said

1816
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 3: the Blueprint and then i'm staying on his shoulders and

1817
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 3: then my son was standing. On my shoulders and so

1818
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 3: my dad, is. My hero man and he's so proud in.

1819
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 3: A healthy, way you know some dads, are.

1820
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 7: Like, man you know yeah for real he's yeah you know, About, my,

1821
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 7: son dadah.

1822
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 4: Yeah in, a, healthy way. Man he is he is

1823
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 4: proud to. This day man and he called me. His

1824
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 4: baby boy i'll, be forty five call me.

1825
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 3: His, baby boy, so you know to be able to

1826
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 3: fulfill some of the things, To, your point dee what he,

1827
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 3: wanted to accomplish my dad was A high schooled american,

1828
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,559
Speaker 3: score YOU know so i took. On his trades i'm

1829
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 3: just having to grow, and you know so. He's proud

1830
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 3: man so my son. Loves his grandfather man like my

1831
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 3: son retired from. Basketball last year he's six y, five.

1832
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 3: WING guard talented i never. REALLY loved basketball i had

1833
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:55,600
Speaker 3: a gym. At my house he never went. To the

1834
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:57,719
Speaker 3: GYM now all i needed was a co hangar.

1835
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 4: In a, SOCK you know i. Was a kid was

1836
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:04,600
Speaker 4: it give? Me a, trash come on come on in.

1837
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 1: A wooden board?

1838
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:10,719
Speaker 2: Were getting, it i'm, good co hangar, stretched that corner,

1839
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:11,600
Speaker 2: get a.

1840
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 4: Signing you know, and my, son you know not.

1841
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 3: TO his fault i had a jump built in THE

1842
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 3: house because i wanted to work out in the house

1843
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 3: and went down.

1844
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 4: And stay home he never bounced the ball. In. The

1845
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 4: gym hardy now when he got, on the court.

1846
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 3: He was talented played and so some cope coaches, last

1847
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 3: year like when can we start?

1848
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 4: RECRUITING his, son.

1849
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 3: I said don't he said. What you, mean i'm like

1850
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 3: don't you don't? Love the game don't, have a, PASSION

1851
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,560
Speaker 3: my SON i g i think a year, AGO or so, I,

1852
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 3: was like dad thank, YOU for playing i don't have

1853
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:41,600
Speaker 3: TO play and, i was, like you, KNOW of.

1854
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 4: Course.

1855
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 3: I cried man so he's never had to feel the

1856
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,640
Speaker 3: pressure to have to do what. His dad did he

1857
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 3: wants to be, a pilot. Man an entrepreneur so very proud. Of,

1858
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 3: my daughter man.

1859
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 1: Sight up, straight up.

1860
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 3: Now d your question for you with with The Young Boys,

1861
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 3: tatum bradley bill was you like, involved in there, like

1862
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 3: seeing them watch them?

1863
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 4: Grow?

1864
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 2: UP too yeah, I, WATCHED him yeah i watched. HIM

1865
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 2: grow up i came up, under His pops. Under tatum,

1866
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:10,639
Speaker 2: pops So yeah after i'm Just seeing young i've Been

1867
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 2: seeing young jason since He Was like deuce.

1868
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 4: Yah.

1869
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 2: Young, At hell man i'm proud of both. Of, Them

1870
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 2: boys man both of them boys are, doing. Amazing things

1871
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 2: man and just to Get to see tatum do, it

1872
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 2: this year. IT'S just amazing i just can't wait till

1873
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 2: the city really like seeing him come back, with that trophy,

1874
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 2: because you know the area.

1875
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 1: Really needs that they really need to.

1876
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:40,719
Speaker 2: Go Motivate, like Larry Hughes, The Anthony, bonds larry hughes.

1877
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 2: They motivated me then it went down to Me To

1878
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 2: the david leeds. And on down Now you got bradley

1879
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 2: And you got. Jason in, there so Man that's definitely.

1880
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 5: And you said he bringing back the trophy to, motivate, the,

1881
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:58,639
Speaker 5: community right bro he come back WITH the biggest nba

1882
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 5: contract in the HISTORY.

1883
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 6: Of the nba.

1884
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 5: That's MOTIVATIONAL purposes only i had to, tell you, know

1885
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 5: you know we got, The same agent, mike Read, Me,

1886
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 5: d miles jason and We All are Jeff Weson and

1887
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 5: jeff wess. Was OUR agent so i had, to tell

1888
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 5: him like yesterday THEY got announce, I had, To, i

1889
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:19,600
Speaker 5: say jeff a, lot of agents rap a lot of

1890
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 5: first round picks and a lot.

1891
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:24,440
Speaker 6: OF special, people i say it ain't, gonna.

1892
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 5: Be like, yeah after this somebody else Will come and

1893
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 5: luca or sjaill go bigger than. The, biggest console like,

1894
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 5: but it's like it's not a lot of agents to

1895
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 5: get to.

1896
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 4: Say the thing You know.

1897
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 5: What i'm saying they just got damn negotiated the biggest

1898
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 5: goddamn deal in the history of the league at a

1899
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 5: point in the history. Of The, league like jason, you The,

1900
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 5: dude Young, jay baby jay you. JUST got, there, i

1901
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 5: talked Say damn. A brinks truck they had to give

1902
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 5: him a. Little, mini bank baby they had to give

1903
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 5: him a. Little small bank, you Hear, me red hot

1904
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 5: we used to be Talking about. The breens, trucker oh,

1905
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 5: yeah nah bit they gotta give him a little You

1906
01:24:57,760 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 5: know what.

1907
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the real definitely got his own area.

1908
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 4: In that mother only twenty, six years old he's gonna

1909
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 4: be gonna get.

1910
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 5: ABOUT four five i want, to tell you Walking Out Of,

1911
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 5: billy billy billy that's. What that's like you're in, him

1912
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 5: a champ but like You know, what i'm saying like

1913
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 5: you inspiring something, Totally, different, now like.

1914
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:21,800
Speaker 3: Boy think about themas what.

1915
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 4: He gonna get it's gonna be the.

1916
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 6: First one to make. Eighty a year you're gonna be

1917
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 6: the first one to make.

1918
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 4: Eighty a.

1919
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 6: Year that's crazy shout out, to, these youths man, these.

1920
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 5: Numbers Baggling bro but i'm so happy they gonna be around.

1921
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 5: To get him i'm trying to get my sons and

1922
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:38,719
Speaker 5: get so they could be ready and line.

1923
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 6: And, have me yes, you, know so man listens.

1924
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 3: The THING d N q that i'll let you guys

1925
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 3: go like they getting in college NOW WITH n i

1926
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:49,719
Speaker 3: m these cats walking walking away in, high school too.

1927
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 1: They're starting to.

1928
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 4: Get that bag it's a.

1929
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 6: Different.

1930
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 5: Ball game, boy we WISH we.

1931
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 4: Wish i was in. THE shine too i. Was the

1932
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 4: crib so.

1933
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 5: You already no, what, hey man hey but this has,

1934
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 5: Been Dope Man. Red hot man. We Appreciate, Y'all bro man,

1935
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:11,639
Speaker 5: like we said whenever you need us, to pull up.

1936
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 4: Let.

1937
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 5: Us know man but they look we. Live on location

1938
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:18,679
Speaker 5: it's a real real. One, Right Here Man, Red Hot,

1939
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 5: Riplets ALL Star All, Nba Gold, medalis redeemed team And

1940
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 5: Now here entropo negro all. Over the place You know, what,

1941
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 5: i'm saying, y'all high letters You know, What, i'm saying.

1942
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 4: KNUCKLEHEADS we out.

1943
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 6: I want to thank y'all for you'll continued Support of.

1944
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:41,799
Speaker 5: The knuckleheads podcast be sure to give us two taps

1945
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:44,280
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