Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season three, twenty seven,
Speaker 1: Episode five of Dirt Daily production of My Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into america shared consciousness. And it is Friday, March first,
Speaker 1: What twenty twenty four? It is? It happened. It finally happened.
Speaker 2: I thought I thought February was just gonna keep going.
Speaker 2: I thought I was fine with February thirtieth. Wow March
Speaker 2: for Wow is a lot of okay. So let me
Speaker 2: just take a deep breath. Because it's National Sunkest Citrus Date,
Speaker 2: Self Injury Awareness Day, National Minnesota Day, National Dress and
Speaker 2: Blue Day, National Speech and Debate Education Day, National Dad Gum,
Speaker 2: That's good Day, National Employee Appreciation Day, Global Day of Unplugging,
Speaker 2: National Readacross America Day, National Horse Protection Day, National Fruit
Speaker 2: Compote Day Day. Wait, there's more, National Pig Day and
Speaker 2: National Peanut Butter Lover's Day. It is Wow March versus
Speaker 2: like they were holding their breath before.
Speaker 1: Little Congeste all out at once.
Speaker 2: Oh man, Oh, I wonder if that's why Schoolboy Q
Speaker 2: put out his album today because it's National Dress and
Speaker 2: Blue Day. That would make sense, Like maybe, yeah, I feel.
Speaker 1: Like school boy Q is not like checking for the
Speaker 1: national I mean, it's not like Secretary's Day. Fellas, I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: He's such a crypt that I feel like he was like, man,
Speaker 2: I'm pluting blue lips out on national dress and Blue Day.
Speaker 1: I don't know his national dress and Blue Day organized
Speaker 1: by the cryps.
Speaker 2: Though no I would know. Image looks like a bunch
Speaker 2: of people in a retirement community wearing different shades of blue.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Anyways, Oh, it's about it's about racing colon cancer awareness.
Speaker 1: Okay, this now very important.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and that is an epidemic that is striking
Speaker 2: the country as younger and younger people being diagnosed. Wow.
Speaker 2: I was like, is this a crypt thing?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: They are often at you know, working in parallel purposes though,
Speaker 1: the crips and the colon cancer where next community. Well,
Speaker 1: my name is Jack O'Brien aka baby Now we got measles.
Speaker 1: You know we used to not have none, so really,
Speaker 1: fuck Andrew wake feel because baby now we got me easels.
Speaker 1: That is courtesy a panoramic view on the disc oldest
Speaker 1: in reference past.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, reference to the fact that we have measos now. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: thank you anti vaxer community, and I'm thrilled to be
Speaker 3: joined as always by.
Speaker 1: My co host, mister Miles grad What day is it?
Speaker 4: Wait? Hold on but brother Jack in the back, Sweet
Speaker 4: Miles in the front, cruising through the week until we
Speaker 4: hit March one. Suddenly, red blue lights flash us from behind,
Speaker 4: loud voice booming, Please step out onto the line, Jack
Speaker 4: preached words of comfort. Miles just hides eyes. Policeman taps
Speaker 4: his shades. Did you forget the twenty ninth?
Speaker 2: How bizarre?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: Wow, wow, we're trying to cope with the leap year.
Speaker 2: We didn't know what day it was and shout out
Speaker 2: Zach Vanders. We can't wait four years to use this again,
Speaker 2: so you know what, I will shoehorned it on March
Speaker 2: first today to recognize the leap year.
Speaker 1: The leak Oh man, yeah, what a day. My kids
Speaker 1: were on my ass immediately when I woke up, just
Speaker 1: being like, it's leap day?
Speaker 2: What are we doing? Boy? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I don't know. You didn't tell me I needed some Anyways, Miles,
Speaker 1: We are thrilled to be joined in our third and
Speaker 1: fourth seats by the hosts of the Wonderful podcast on
Speaker 1: Theme where you can hear them discuss everything from the
Speaker 1: weaponization of rap lyrics by the legal system to fictional
Speaker 1: characters they want to reach through the screen and slat.
Speaker 1: He's Jeff cod and Katie Mitchell.
Speaker 2: Thanks for stopping by.
Speaker 1: Thanks for stopping by, Thanks for stopping that. How are
Speaker 1: you guys doing?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: How how how is it?
Speaker 2: How is it?
Speaker 1: How's it over there in Atlanta?
Speaker 5: In Atlanta, it's always something going on in Atlanta. Some
Speaker 5: scam here and there is.
Speaker 1: There going on.
Speaker 2: Other than cop City? What else is what other scams
Speaker 2: are they running over there?
Speaker 6: The parking here is a scam. Yeah, they sold it
Speaker 6: to a private company for one hundred years for hell
Speaker 6: low and they are taxing out here.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, we know about that in l A too.
Speaker 6: In the parking lots at the mall they have security.
Speaker 6: What yes, I learned that. What do you mean parking lot?
Speaker 6: The mall got security at Lintics. There's a parking lot
Speaker 6: Atlantics where you have to go through security. Just again
Speaker 6: the parking lot. Oh like to just stop stealing because because.
Speaker 5: Atlanta thinks everything's a club, that's another scam.
Speaker 6: Yeah, everything so exclusive. You gotta wait and line get
Speaker 6: into the parking lot. And to leave the parking lot
Speaker 6: like this is dangerous.
Speaker 2: I feel. Yeah, They're like they're checking you. They're like,
Speaker 2: hold on, the ratios, aren't good, man, I can't let
Speaker 2: you in.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: You need some more ladies with you. Yeah, otherwise you
Speaker 2: can't get your car. Wow. Okay, So everything is like
Speaker 2: or is it more militarized security. Not really, It's more
Speaker 2: like somebody there like yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 5: Somebody who isn't really qualified to be right right anything.
Speaker 2: Naturally naturally.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Parking lot gimmicks are yeah, we know them well in La,
Speaker 2: don't we check in our own studio parking lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Our studio had for a while somebody who was like,
Speaker 1: you know, he he had something going. We weren't quite sure,
Speaker 1: but he would always try and hit us five days
Speaker 1: early for payment and then like forget that we had
Speaker 1: paid him at various points and he just yeah, he
Speaker 1: had a lot of plates spinning.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was interesting, and he was he was mean people.
Speaker 3: Yeah you gotta be nice, Yeah, yeah, exactly mean bedside
Speaker 3: that side scammers, scammer.
Speaker 5: I just want to stay for the record though, that
Speaker 5: I do love Atlanta, and I'm actually not one of
Speaker 5: those folks who says, nobody come here, we're full. I
Speaker 5: actually think we're not full, right, right, more people can come,
Speaker 5: but I just want to correct.
Speaker 1: Director Private Equity Parking Company's hands with that one. All right, well,
Speaker 1: we're going to get to know you both a little
Speaker 1: bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things
Speaker 1: we're talking about. The Supreme Court will rule on Trump's immunity.
Speaker 1: They will just do it very very slowly, almost like
Speaker 1: they're running interference, so that this court, the Supreme Court,
Speaker 1: have to go to trial before he has a chance
Speaker 1: to be elected president. So we'll talk about that. We will,
Speaker 1: of course continue to check in with the developing situation,
Speaker 1: the Shitty Willy Wonka experience that was put on in Glasgow.
Speaker 2: How'd I do Glasgow?
Speaker 1: Glasgow?
Speaker 2: You gotta fight, though, you gotta fight? How you want
Speaker 2: to phonetically say it? When you see it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's just more details coming out. We have scripts.
Speaker 2: Wait I generated?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Are they generated? Are they generated
Speaker 1: by a genius? It's hard, it's hard to tell. There
Speaker 1: is a new villain that probably is going to get
Speaker 1: their own horror movie. Who is Lurking, a chocolateeer who
Speaker 1: lives in the walls.
Speaker 2: That so not great world building.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll talk about VR improving the lives of
Speaker 1: senior citizens virtual reality possibly, you know, if if private
Speaker 1: equity doesn't manage to fuck that up, you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's a way that technology could actually make people's lives
Speaker 1: a little bit better. All of that plenty more, But first, Katie,
Speaker 1: we do like to ask our guests what is something
Speaker 1: from your search history? Or we're also opening it up
Speaker 1: to what's the most recent thing that you've screencapped? Either
Speaker 1: either or.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's more revealing going those screenshots? What do we got?
Speaker 5: Let me let me keet looking at the screenshot because
Speaker 5: my search history has been whack.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, real whack.
Speaker 6: My screencaps are boring?
Speaker 5: Okay, did you have one forst search history? I'm gonna
Speaker 5: look through my photos.
Speaker 6: My I recently looked up if Mike Epps has been
Speaker 6: to jail. I saw him on a commercial and I
Speaker 6: was like, I wonder if you'd been in jail, because
Speaker 6: he was talking about like, oh, when you in jail,
Speaker 6: you do this. I was like, I bet he ain't
Speaker 6: even ain't even really like that. But he has been
Speaker 6: to jail several times. He that's a lot of illegal things. Really,
Speaker 6: he has sold drugs at one point. He see, he
Speaker 6: didn't even go to jail for this next one. He
Speaker 6: brought a loaded gun to airport in Indianapolis, but he
Speaker 6: didn't go to jail.
Speaker 2: Was he famous at the time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was famous. It was just a couple of
Speaker 6: years ago, so I think he got some leniency for that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So props to him for telling the truth on
Speaker 6: his upcoming special.
Speaker 5: Okay, do they take people to jail for bringing guns?
Speaker 5: Don't they just take them? Because like Atlanta's like the
Speaker 5: biggest airport. Because we bought the guys got her to jail,
Speaker 5: they did.
Speaker 1: They really frown on it. I remember there was a
Speaker 1: boy they really like, that's one I had that Sam thought.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you just take it away right from them.
Speaker 1: But I remember there was like a football coach in
Speaker 1: the nineties who kept, like multiple times just like kept
Speaker 1: forgetting not to bring a gun to the airport, which
Speaker 1: is such a funny crime. But I'm pretty sure he
Speaker 1: got arrested.
Speaker 6: So well, I mean, if you keep doing it at
Speaker 6: a certain point, start to look suspicious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that was that guy, Madison Cawthorne the former
Speaker 2: congress member. I remember he brought a gun too, and
Speaker 2: I think, well, maybe his complexion did some work for
Speaker 2: him there, but he just had to be like, now
Speaker 2: I have to go to court for bringing a gun
Speaker 2: in my carry on luggage. But the guy I was
Speaker 2: talking about, Barry Switzer, Cowboys coach, arrested after pistol found
Speaker 2: in bag at Dallas Fort Worth Airport. So I mean
Speaker 2: the coach.
Speaker 1: Of the Cowboys, like at the Dallas Fort Worth Airport
Speaker 1: and they still arrested him. I mean, maybe they had
Speaker 1: a bad season that year, and.
Speaker 2: That's all right. Who could have more power in the states, right,
Speaker 2: but that's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's might as well be the governor.
Speaker 2: Wait and Mike Epp special was he talking in a
Speaker 2: way that had you sort of rubbing your chin like
Speaker 2: let me well to me?
Speaker 6: So, I know, Mike Epps, he might have crossed over
Speaker 6: to being beyond black famous at this point. But I
Speaker 6: was like, you've been famous for a long time, Like,
Speaker 6: why why are you in jail like that? Like I
Speaker 6: don't I don't trust it because you've been famous to
Speaker 6: me since the nineties, right, So I want to expect
Speaker 6: you to just be like in the streets like where
Speaker 6: you would be getting locked up like that, right, But
Speaker 6: I was wrong. You proved me wrong, So shout out
Speaker 6: to him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, congratulations, sir Yeves. What is something from your search
Speaker 1: history or from your screen caps?
Speaker 5: So my screencaps are also boring, but I'll just say
Speaker 5: something for my search history. It's been a lot of
Speaker 5: historical figures and things about history lately, but we do
Speaker 5: have an episode today. I was going back and looking
Speaker 5: at some of the articles we did that were related
Speaker 5: to the episode we had come out today, which is
Speaker 5: about funerary portraiture. And one of those articles was about
Speaker 5: extreme embalming, which is a thing that was like it
Speaker 5: blew up for just like a really hot second. This
Speaker 5: was several years ago, where people would pose people's bodies
Speaker 5: in elaborate fashions with like these serious set designs for
Speaker 5: them to be like put up for their memorial service.
Speaker 5: And so that's one thing that was for my search
Speaker 5: history that I was like going back into because of
Speaker 5: the episode we have coming out today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like posed upright right, like some of them,
Speaker 2: you know, some of them, not like the lady with
Speaker 2: the wineglass and the alcohol.
Speaker 1: That's the one.
Speaker 5: He ate that she ate that was her legacy.
Speaker 6: That happened really, cause these is telling me about it.
Speaker 6: She's like, have you heard? I was like, I've never
Speaker 6: heard about that in my life. But then she wasted
Speaker 6: that lady with the white guys.
Speaker 1: I was like, yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 5: But my favorite, my favorite was the guy that came
Speaker 5: up who he was posed playing video games like on
Speaker 5: an Xbox. He had had an Xbox controller in her
Speaker 5: hand his hand, and he had like a sprite and
Speaker 5: Spichos or something like that. Because they were like, this
Speaker 5: is this man's legacy, right right, this is what people
Speaker 5: need to know about him.
Speaker 2: I remember, Yeah, I was actually listening to that episode
Speaker 2: and it was really dope because I knew initially like
Speaker 2: James Vandersey like from like the Harlem Renaissance photography that
Speaker 2: he did, but I didn't really know about all of
Speaker 2: the sort of like funeral images that he took too.
Speaker 2: So I was googling that's in my search history because
Speaker 2: I was like, I need to see these pictures that
Speaker 2: you know we're talking about in this episode. But yeah,
Speaker 2: that kind of like sort of end of like funeral
Speaker 2: set up, it's isn't And culturally how different countries do
Speaker 2: things like that because I also see like in South
Speaker 2: America too, they also do a lot of celebratory things.
Speaker 2: Like I saw a thing where a younger guy had
Speaker 2: passed away from like an illness and he was like
Speaker 2: really into soccer. So his friends like had him score
Speaker 2: one last goal and it was kind of wild because
Speaker 2: it like kind of kicked a ball off of him.
Speaker 7: And yeah, yeah, like how soon after I mean, you know, however, however, time,
Speaker 7: however much time passed, but he was such an avid
Speaker 7: soccer players, like team like got all together for like
Speaker 7: this sort of you know, symbolic final goal he could score,
Speaker 7: and that was.
Speaker 2: A little that was a little more animated than I
Speaker 2: was expected. Again, it's all about you know, like let's
Speaker 2: remember them how they lived.
Speaker 6: He was loved by his team members because I don't
Speaker 6: think I would be doing that, but that's a testament
Speaker 6: to how he lived.
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, I think a lot of people will find
Speaker 5: that pretty irreverent.
Speaker 2: Right, how would you? But what would you do for
Speaker 2: your extreme embalming? How would you want to be remembered?
Speaker 2: What are you doing my.
Speaker 6: Extreme and bombing?
Speaker 5: Hum, that's a good question, Yeah, like what do I
Speaker 5: what do I probably in a yoga post because I
Speaker 5: practice and I teach yoga.
Speaker 2: Okay, but which even more important?
Speaker 6: So the box corp obviously yeah?
Speaker 5: Or like yeah, or like a hand a scorpion handstand
Speaker 5: something like that, which I can't even do in real life.
Speaker 5: So is something I can't do in real life?
Speaker 2: Why not in that position?
Speaker 5: It would be the hardest thing. But honestly, if you
Speaker 5: love me, come on, yeah, I should write that in
Speaker 5: my will now, if you love.
Speaker 1: You love me in scorpion post? What is h what's something?
Speaker 2: Miles?
Speaker 1: By the way, it sounds like you have an answer
Speaker 1: to that. What are you posing as?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe DJing? I like playing an instrument? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: because I think like that that's like the one thing
Speaker 2: that makes me feel like in the infinite, you know,
Speaker 2: listening to music, playing music. So I feel like that
Speaker 2: that would be a fitting fitting physical pose and for
Speaker 2: me is to be jamming or something like that.
Speaker 1: That makes sense. I'd be dunking, I would have you'd
Speaker 1: be dunking. I'd have my hands connected to the rim
Speaker 1: with wire. There would be some added like kind of
Speaker 1: tension because you don't know if like my arms might
Speaker 1: rip off or not, you know, and right right again,
Speaker 1: I'm stealing from Eaves's idea that like we're you're doing
Speaker 1: something you couldn't actually do in life, but you're kind
Speaker 1: of being immortalized that way.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you probably have to have that that posing stick
Speaker 5: that they put on statues and museums. When the statue
Speaker 5: is like free standing and it can't hold itself, they
Speaker 5: have the stick they put up the backside of the statue. Yeah,
Speaker 5: probably they have to, right.
Speaker 2: That would be advisable.
Speaker 1: But I want there to be the tension that there
Speaker 1: might be a coffin flop style mishap where my body
Speaker 1: just like falls and it's dramatic and everybody.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I would go with like more on
Speaker 6: miles in side doing something that you actually do. I
Speaker 6: think I would like to cooking at my own.
Speaker 1: Oh you know, I.
Speaker 6: Used to not like those because I was like, why
Speaker 6: is everybody so happy right now? But if I'm like,
Speaker 6: you know, serving a little call of green situation and
Speaker 6: everybody I want to be there, I would enjoy it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like that. What would you make?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 5: What food?
Speaker 6: Something real, real, soulful. I gotta put some corn bread,
Speaker 6: some cold greens. You know, I don't eat meat, but
Speaker 6: I'm gonna let y'all eat it, so some turkey plays
Speaker 6: or something.
Speaker 5: Look, if it was my family, they're gonna be mad
Speaker 5: if the ain't no meat.
Speaker 1: At the repat.
Speaker 6: I know mine, so soig one with the pork and
Speaker 6: all of that.
Speaker 1: What is What's something that you think is underrated?
Speaker 6: I think being a hater is underrated. And we talked
Speaker 6: about this in one of our episodes. Haters really are
Speaker 6: the impetus to so much like if you had somebody
Speaker 6: hating on you, you just feel like you have to
Speaker 6: prove them wrong. You have to go so hard, and
Speaker 6: a lot of things that we have in society you
Speaker 6: wouldn't be there without haters. But they get a really
Speaker 6: bad rap. And I was like, y'all need to like
Speaker 6: genuinely thank your haters, and not like I like to
Speaker 6: thank my haters, but like for real, right you yeah
Speaker 6: gave them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, your outside opinion of me sort of spurred me
Speaker 2: on to do something different, something great for sure.
Speaker 6: Yeah, if you were just being nice to me, I
Speaker 6: would have just been sitting around doing nothing.
Speaker 1: I just like in my search history is somebody. So
Speaker 1: Sony had this like outspoken critic who just hated all
Speaker 1: things Sony and like criticized everything they did and his
Speaker 1: he made so many good points when he was criticizing
Speaker 1: them that they hired him and he became the president
Speaker 1: of Sony eventually.
Speaker 5: WHOA, That's not how I thought that was gonna know,
Speaker 5: was like.
Speaker 1: So, I mean, truly you can find a well informed
Speaker 1: hater like where all their criticism is like actually, like
Speaker 1: the reason I'm so mad is because they make some
Speaker 1: really good points. Then maybe listen to them, maybe keep
Speaker 1: them close for reasons other than you know that you're
Speaker 1: just watching them.
Speaker 2: Make them your boss.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I feel like the United States should do that for me,
Speaker 6: for I'm the biggest hater of the United States.
Speaker 5: Like president, Yeah, but you don't want to be president.
Speaker 6: I would do some stuff that we would not come
Speaker 6: back from.
Speaker 5: But I was thinking it could be. This could be
Speaker 5: everybody could just be a hater, like in the aftermath
Speaker 5: of the quote unquote great resignation, like everybody could just
Speaker 5: focus on hating and that that'll be our pathway.
Speaker 1: It's employment. Yeah, I'll here first.
Speaker 2: We heard it here first.
Speaker 1: Plus such a thin line, like whenever somebody gets caught
Speaker 1: doing something really bad, their first response is always like
Speaker 1: I'm not listening to the haters on this. So it's
Speaker 1: a real thin line between hater and like person who
Speaker 1: is just calling out you know, horrible behavior.
Speaker 6: For sure, especially if like you see your fath getting
Speaker 6: hated on. Sometimes you're like, yeah, they're just hating, but
Speaker 6: it's someone you don't like. There's like, it's a very
Speaker 6: principal critique that person.
Speaker 5: Start coming out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the principal critique, and I will stand by
Speaker 1: as it's made. Eves, what how about you? What's something
Speaker 1: you think is underrated?
Speaker 5: So I think rekindling old friendships is underrated and this
Speaker 5: isnt underrated. Yes, she's thinking coming for you because that
Speaker 5: would have been how I kind of felt in the past.
Speaker 5: I was like, you know, it's a new day, it's
Speaker 5: a new dawn, and I don't need to go back
Speaker 5: to these old friendships. But you know, I'm rethinking it
Speaker 5: now after having communications with you know, somebody who I
Speaker 5: used to know is mother today and she was like, oh,
Speaker 5: you y'all should talk, and I'm like, I'll think about it,
Speaker 5: you know, I'll consider it because before I'm like, you know,
Speaker 5: if they're not in my life anymore, then it's for
Speaker 5: a reason. You know how all the kids say they're
Speaker 5: in your life for a reason or a season or
Speaker 5: something like that. Yeah, right, so I don't know if
Speaker 5: I subscribe to that anymore. So that's that's what my underrated.
Speaker 1: Is going to be, okay, all right? And I actually
Speaker 1: needed to hear that. There there's somebody that I've just
Speaker 1: been like toying with the idea of, like, man, I
Speaker 1: should really get back in touch with them. I haven't
Speaker 1: talked to them in years. And yeah, that needed to
Speaker 1: hear that, Thank you very much. What's something you think
Speaker 1: is overrated?
Speaker 5: I think biopics are overrated And this is coming from
Speaker 5: someone who is I love biography and written form. I
Speaker 5: love it in podcast form. I love it in those forms.
Speaker 5: But for some reason, I have something against biopics. Like
Speaker 5: my husband coerced me to go to the Bob Parley
Speaker 5: Bob Marley biopics the other day, and I'm just for
Speaker 5: some reason, it's just something about seeing somebody who looks
Speaker 5: nothing like the person and sounds nothing like the person,
Speaker 5: and it's really hard to get somebody's accent down, Like
Speaker 5: that's not an easy thing to do. For the best
Speaker 5: about there's something that misses the translation. And I think
Speaker 5: also it's like very hard to cover a person's story
Speaker 5: in an hour and forty five minutes in a way
Speaker 5: that feels really meaningful. Not that I think it can't
Speaker 5: be done in that, like it's just to me, they
Speaker 5: always come off as mediocre.
Speaker 2: Or right, or like someone who could do no wrong
Speaker 2: or something like that, like and he was actually the
Speaker 2: hero of.
Speaker 5: Everything, right, yeah, because they have no structure.
Speaker 2: There's some complexities there with his life for sure. And
Speaker 2: also we were hating on the wig. First of all.
Speaker 2: The first thing I said are.
Speaker 8: Like, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 5: Nobody wigs, right, nobody does.
Speaker 2: That's like you could have find it about Jamaican and
Speaker 2: a Jamaican actor who already had dreads or something like that.
Speaker 2: You had to go find this is he from the
Speaker 2: UK like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just remember being like this is trash man, Like
Speaker 2: I can't even I can't. I can't look at this
Speaker 2: because the wigs were the wig was so bad.
Speaker 5: The wig was wiggy. Okay, it's always the scalp with locks.
Speaker 5: It's the scalp. Yeah, they get wrong.
Speaker 2: It's really hard to do and it's always like a
Speaker 2: helmet with like it feels like a helmet was.
Speaker 5: Yes, it was giving taller Perry wigs or from Walking Dead. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: it's that's exactly what it was. And they tried to
Speaker 5: like shout out to the wig makers. I know it's
Speaker 5: a hard job. I'm not saying that they are fully
Speaker 5: talented and skilled and have been working on their crafts.
Speaker 5: They like tried to they lengthened the lig the wig
Speaker 5: throughout the movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah and all of.
Speaker 5: That, and I'm like, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: Wow, you did the guess the church.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right, well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, bless your heart. At least you tried. Because
Speaker 2: is there is there a thing too like with because
Speaker 2: we were talking about this, I think maybe off Mike Jack,
Speaker 2: but like some people are just kind of so cool,
Speaker 2: like don't even bother trying to get somebody else to
Speaker 2: capture that cool on screen, Like there was like a
Speaker 2: Miles Davis biopic. I'm like, you can't that this dude
Speaker 2: is also all over the place. You can't just be like, yeah,
Speaker 2: now you're Miles Day, You're Bob Marley or whatever.
Speaker 1: They're so iconic that you either have to like cast
Speaker 1: the person who looks the most like them, like they
Speaker 1: did with that Tupac one, but then yeah, person he
Speaker 1: could not be able to act, so yeah, then yeah,
Speaker 1: it's you're it's a real like you are trying to
Speaker 1: thread the thinnest needle. And also yeah, like maybe like
Speaker 1: a Tupac biography in one hundred years, maybe you know,
Speaker 1: Like but like when no one remembers who, yeah remembers
Speaker 1: and they're just like they've seen the pictures. But like
Speaker 1: right now Bob Marley Tupac like way, way too soon.
Speaker 5: I feel like, yeah, it needs some distance, and it
Speaker 5: didn't make it any better that at the end of
Speaker 5: the Bob Marley film. I don't know if I'm going
Speaker 5: too hard on this right now, go ahead hating that much.
Speaker 5: But at the end of the Bob Marley film they
Speaker 5: show like actual footage of Bob Marley and comparing his
Speaker 5: energy on stage to the energy that the actor was
Speaker 5: giving was just miles away. It was like it was
Speaker 5: so spirited and you could really see that coming out
Speaker 5: in the clips, and having just seen the actor do
Speaker 5: it in the film, I was like something was missing
Speaker 5: that that Genna Sai Quad wasn't there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, get a job Chatwick. If Chatwick was alive, I
Speaker 6: feel like he could play anybody great actor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you need. Like sometimes it works because yeah,
Speaker 1: just like all, I don't remember you played someone, you
Speaker 1: better quit it in that.
Speaker 5: In that, yeah, I think he did. He did pay
Speaker 5: their good Marshall.
Speaker 6: I believe that wasn't matter at it actually Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, also with Kingsley Benadere that's the name of the
Speaker 2: actor who played him. But yeah, like I'm sure when
Speaker 2: you see that juxtaposition of actual Bob Marley footage, it
Speaker 2: really feels like your parents being like, yeah, we got
Speaker 2: Bob Marley at home, don't worry.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, yeah, Katie, what's something that you think
Speaker 1: is overrated?
Speaker 6: I think chick fil A is overrated, And I think
Speaker 6: once we all band together and stop eating chick fil A,
Speaker 6: that's when the revolution will happen. Wow, because they don't
Speaker 6: like the gays, right, they don't like the blacks for real,
Speaker 6: because the blacks and the Latinos be in the back
Speaker 6: and not in the front interacting with customers.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 6: The chicken. I haven't had chicken in maybe ten years.
Speaker 6: It wasn't i ahold. But other people make good chickens.
Speaker 6: They're not the only ones. And people be acting like
Speaker 6: they're the only ones just because they say please and
Speaker 6: thank you and my pleasure, right, how to have higher
Speaker 6: standards for ourselves.
Speaker 5: The hard thing about this is that they're expanding.
Speaker 6: They're expanding like crazy, especially in Georgia.
Speaker 5: Oh really the country, across the country. Yeah, there's like
Speaker 5: four of them on my exit. Yeah, they're franchise model,
Speaker 5: and it's like super hard to get into that. Their franchise.
Speaker 5: They have a specific way model and they're never gonna
Speaker 5: they're never gonna go public.
Speaker 1: Right, I don't know how.
Speaker 5: But I believe. I believe it. If you believe it,
Speaker 5: I believe it.
Speaker 6: The revolution right when we give up.
Speaker 2: When people can like, yeah, the first principled consumer decision
Speaker 2: like the entire country can collectively make, they'd be like,
Speaker 2: aside from the morality, the chicken also like Popeyes is
Speaker 2: better man. When I was in the Atlanta studio that's
Speaker 2: by Delilah's, I had a chicken sandwich from there that
Speaker 2: blew my socks.
Speaker 1: Right off my feet. Like I saw that.
Speaker 2: I was like a Willy Wonka exhibit. But yeah, that
Speaker 2: was definitely like, yeah, I think it's just one of
Speaker 2: those things. And I said this before when I think
Speaker 2: was it Dulce Sloan who maybe or somebody was talking
Speaker 2: about it, or maybe it was doctor John. Anyway, somebody
Speaker 2: was also saying was coming with that overrated and.
Speaker 1: It's probably one of our most common overrateds. And yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's time. I think it's like one of
Speaker 1: those things.
Speaker 2: It's like one of those things too, because in the
Speaker 2: West Coast we never had it, like so when it
Speaker 2: came on the West Coast, it was like what in
Speaker 2: and out is to other places, but here the thing
Speaker 2: I heard about from our relatives that live in the
Speaker 2: South or the East Coast or whatever. And yeah, and
Speaker 2: I think once that subsides, maybe people can you know,
Speaker 2: we can all band together, can break just.
Speaker 6: The novelty used to wear off a little bit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I think if anybody Katie and
Speaker 5: I are actually from the land of true At Kathy
Speaker 5: spent a lot of time growing up there where he lived.
Speaker 5: And I think if anybody can do it, we can
Speaker 5: do it, because we can really, Yeah, we have original
Speaker 5: quaim to the Chick fil A And if we can
Speaker 5: do it, anybody in this country can do it.
Speaker 6: You know. I went on a field trip to Chick
Speaker 6: fil A ranch in elementary school.
Speaker 1: It's a ranch.
Speaker 6: I don't know if it still exists. It was so
Speaker 6: fun they had and I'm picking them up now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like we actually you know, second thought, I love
Speaker 2: that's true.
Speaker 6: At Kathy it was so fun that it was like
Speaker 6: they had I guess it was like a cow sanctuary
Speaker 6: something because you know they oh right right yeah, and
Speaker 6: they had like those like what do they call connas
Speaker 6: Conna stego wagons the yeah, the people going west was
Speaker 6: that were in uh so we slept in those. It
Speaker 6: was an overnight trip, mind you.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 6: We did somemores, We like cooked on the fire. It
Speaker 6: was real fun.
Speaker 5: That does sound fun today?
Speaker 2: We should look you Yeah, let me change my overrates.
Speaker 6: Actually they're underrated.
Speaker 1: Under it.
Speaker 2: Yeah the restaurant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I've talked about this before, but I
Speaker 1: got as an award in middle school. I got to
Speaker 1: go on this field trip and it was just the
Speaker 1: long John Silver's headquarters, like corporate headquarters. The worst version
Speaker 1: of your field trip, right, not even like they didn't
Speaker 1: have any fun themed thing. You just like sat and
Speaker 1: watched the fucking them go through some spreadsheets and then
Speaker 1: got to eat one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they need to work on their propaganda game.
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, I think it would be pretty cool
Speaker 5: if they would have showed you all the different kinds
Speaker 5: of fish that go into.
Speaker 2: The what actually, yeah, right, we usually stand up at
Speaker 2: a pet store to get this stuff put together.
Speaker 5: That would be wild if they have been.
Speaker 1: Goldfish mash is what you're actually getting? Oh man, All right,
Speaker 1: well that's disgusting. Sorry to leave it on that note,
Speaker 1: but we are going to take a quick break and
Speaker 1: we're gonna come back and we're gonna talk some news.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back.
Speaker 2: And we're back.
Speaker 1: Sorry for the for the long delay. The crows are back,
Speaker 1: but thanks everybody for the for the advice on basically
Speaker 1: bribing them with nuts. I've put a bawl of almonds
Speaker 1: in my backyard. So far it seems to be kind
Speaker 1: of working.
Speaker 2: But they are gathering.
Speaker 1: They are gathered, and I think they're yeah, well, more
Speaker 1: updates in the future.
Speaker 2: An evolving story.
Speaker 1: Like I said, we're going to get to some important news.
Speaker 1: And that was it. My crows are back in the backyard. No,
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court has announced they're going to rule on
Speaker 1: Trump's immunity. They're going to do it very very slowly.
Speaker 1: This is essentially the like playing along with his plan
Speaker 1: for you know, to delay everything until he's president and
Speaker 1: then yeah, he can start punishing his enemies and throwing
Speaker 1: all this shit out of out of court essentially.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I mean, I think the whole time we're wondering,
Speaker 2: we're like, well, every other lower court was out of
Speaker 2: hand rejecting the argument that there was such thing as
Speaker 2: god mode when you're president, and they're like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you can actually be convicted of a crime. What are
Speaker 2: you talking about here? But yeah, as it stands, the
Speaker 2: Supreme Court is basically saying they will hear I think
Speaker 2: April twenty second is when they will begin the proceedings
Speaker 2: to hear the fucking case, when I think any normal
Speaker 2: court would have just affirmed the lower court's decision be
Speaker 2: like yeah what they say, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Why
Speaker 2: why do I need? Why am I wasting my time?
Speaker 2: But yeah, we were always wondering, how will the Supreme
Speaker 2: Court show itself to be completely biased and illegitimate and
Speaker 2: the laughing stock? And yeah, we're starting to see it
Speaker 2: by like slow rolling this thing because this will just
Speaker 2: this will drag everything on to the point that the
Speaker 2: Jack Smith trial probably wouldn't happen in time at all,
Speaker 2: or at all.
Speaker 1: I mean, he had already asked the Supreme Court to
Speaker 1: weigh in on this issue back in December, because he
Speaker 1: knew that this was a possibility, and trump st layers objected,
Speaker 1: It's I don't know, I'm no legal expert. This all
Speaker 1: just seems very fucking dumb. It's very dark. That's my
Speaker 1: legal read on the situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thanks for that. Yeah, all very fucking VFD.
Speaker 2: We already know that's my that's the conclusion we've come to.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, like this is the thing also
Speaker 2: because even if they do, you know, come to a
Speaker 2: decision and they say, you know what, actually, no, you
Speaker 2: do not have immunity. We all know about how the
Speaker 2: DJ if remember in twenty sixteen, they'll be like, we
Speaker 2: don't like to do anything that could be seen as
Speaker 2: political sixty days out from election, right, but Hillary Clinton,
Speaker 2: we can make a special case for, like they did
Speaker 2: with that FBI thing that happened within sixty days of
Speaker 2: the election. So it's really yeah, I guess the only
Speaker 2: terrible silver lining here is that if the Supreme Court
Speaker 2: were to affirm, like what Trump's argument is that there
Speaker 2: is such thing as the star from Super Mario Brothers
Speaker 2: that makes you immune from criminal prosecution, then I guess
Speaker 2: Joe Biden is free to do literally whatever the fuck
Speaker 2: he wants to also hold on to power. But this
Speaker 2: is just like the most grim timeline either way you
Speaker 2: look at it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, hold on to power for two more months of
Speaker 6: his life?
Speaker 2: Yeah right, however long however, Yeah, hold on to it, hold.
Speaker 1: On to it. Maybe it's like an immortality thing. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's like a one up thing in addition to the
Speaker 1: in addition to the stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, the mushroom makes him younger.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't feel like this is going to that
Speaker 1: they're going to rule for Trump on this, right, Like
Speaker 1: all of the lower courts that have looked at this
Speaker 1: have said that, no, this is like open and shut.
Speaker 1: Why are we even looking at this? Of course, president
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you can do whatever you want. But I
Speaker 1: think it from the way the Supreme Court seems to
Speaker 1: like to do things where they're like, ah, we do
Speaker 1: a horrifying thing and then but hey, we're still over here,
Speaker 1: feels like this will give them a chance to at
Speaker 1: least have the appearance that they're ruling against Trump. On
Speaker 1: something while also essentially running interference for him to let
Speaker 1: him by time until he has a chance to be
Speaker 1: a president.
Speaker 2: Right, in which case, yeah, he'll just tell the DJ
Speaker 2: to drop all the charges. Yeah, and so it has
Speaker 2: everybody loses, I guess.
Speaker 1: In this instance, right, Yeah, it feels like that.
Speaker 2: Like I said, November, take your time, take your time,
Speaker 2: take your time, please take all Right.
Speaker 1: Did you guys catch the Willy Wonka experience in Glasgow?
Speaker 1: You see it, Katie?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so.
Speaker 1: You're terminally unhealthily online? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Right, I only saw a smidge not too much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but but you're familiar with the terrible bait and
Speaker 2: switch that they pulled on.
Speaker 6: People, being like I would have gotten tricked too.
Speaker 2: Really off from the AI pictures you think.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would think like, oh, you cannot lie this much.
Speaker 6: I can see you could lie a little bit, you
Speaker 6: put a little extra on it, but you can't lie
Speaker 6: this right right, right.
Speaker 2: Right right right. The way they did to that, it
Speaker 2: was a ninety second total time or not time limit,
Speaker 2: but that's how long it took for people to get through.
Speaker 2: The whole thing was about ninety seconds. And then they
Speaker 2: were handing out one jelly bean per kid because they
Speaker 2: ran out. Yeah it got.
Speaker 1: Grim but yeah, magical jelly beans rights.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah because I called them that,
Speaker 2: that's they're magical. Then just trust me on this. Now
Speaker 2: give me my forty five dollars. But yeah. The one
Speaker 2: thing that's clear after like looking at the whole Willy
Speaker 2: Wonka thing here is like the AI. This AI like
Speaker 2: that based on the images and everything, it's enabling the
Speaker 2: worst thoughts of morally unscrupulous people. Like the use of
Speaker 2: AI to make marketing materials was clearly like a huge
Speaker 2: help in getting people into the door. But now we're
Speaker 2: hearing that the actors that were hired to be part
Speaker 2: of this quote unquote experience were also given scripts that
Speaker 2: were also AI generated nonsense. Allegedly, no one has come
Speaker 2: no one has confirmed or denied that AI was used
Speaker 2: chat gpt I Apparently they said they took it like
Speaker 2: it's hard for us to know because it's so poorly written.
Speaker 2: That yeah, it could be aim or it could just
Speaker 2: be so poorly written. There was like there's some there's
Speaker 2: just a lot of new things we're learning about. There
Speaker 2: was some villain character that made kids cry during this
Speaker 2: thing called the Unknown, and it was just a person
Speaker 2: in like a silver spray painted mask.
Speaker 1: I mean it is, Yeah, it is terrifying. It's grim,
Speaker 1: like soul chilling.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you have the clip in here where like somebody's
Speaker 1: like what is this now? And then this fucker comes
Speaker 1: out from behind a mirror and yeah, and you hear
Speaker 1: the kids immediately.
Speaker 2: Go no, no, no. It's the sound of like, yeah,
Speaker 2: the sound of upset kids. That definitely makes it a
Speaker 2: little bit hard to like be like oh no, and
Speaker 2: like the parents. It's also in those videos you see
Speaker 2: the parents trying to be like this is okay. Yeah,
Speaker 2: on the inside they're like, I'm gonna fuck somebody up
Speaker 2: for charging me this amount of money.
Speaker 6: The police they did, what is the police fustae do
Speaker 6: some of the Yeah, I don't know what were they
Speaker 6: going to do.
Speaker 2: I mean I think just be like, yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: know you want us to do like that. It's a scam.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess we could tell you that. But
Speaker 2: as it stands, the company that put it on says
Speaker 2: they are giving people refunds. We still don't know the
Speaker 2: state of that. We do know that the actors have
Speaker 2: not been paid. Yeah, so that may be a bit
Speaker 2: of foreshadowing the actor. The quote from the actor on
Speaker 2: the Unknown is the bit that got me. Was where
Speaker 2: I had to say, there is a man. We don't
Speaker 2: know his name, we know him as the Unknown. This
Speaker 2: Unknown is an evil chocolate maker who lives in the walls.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who lives in the walls is like so specific
Speaker 1: and creepy and a thing that like your child imagination
Speaker 1: like makes up already and so you know, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's somebody who lives in your walls.
Speaker 2: Oh here, here, here your house.
Speaker 1: Settle a little bit or something you're like, oh no.
Speaker 2: This is the clip of the just poor guy pretending
Speaker 2: to be I think Willie McNichol or something. Obviously for
Speaker 2: Christ for trademark, wea reasons they could not say wrong.
Speaker 2: And he is out here telling this is the part
Speaker 2: where he tells kids about the Unknown. Look at this.
Speaker 8: Also, was that like a Diana rosswig give me rais yeah,
Speaker 8: or maybe.
Speaker 5: The same thing, like yeah, I mean that's where my
Speaker 5: mind goes all the time. I assume that racist underpinnings
Speaker 5: to things that people under the stairs too, you know,
Speaker 5: like in the walls.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just coming coming out from a target mirror like a.
Speaker 6: You know this might be someone who is actually against
Speaker 6: a trying to tell anybody to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a little bit right.
Speaker 2: I'm sure she saw the picture of the woman playing
Speaker 2: the umpa lumpa, because I think that sort of kind
Speaker 2: of encapsulated the entire experience this poor lady. She said,
Speaker 2: when she got there, nothing resembled a legitimate production of
Speaker 2: any kind. The costumes she thinks were used. Other people
Speaker 2: were like they were like cheap, sexy oopa luompa costumes,
Speaker 2: and they were like, I'm glad I brought tights and
Speaker 2: a T shirt. Otherwise, like my business would have been
Speaker 2: hanging all the way out while I'm trying to do
Speaker 2: like a children's performance. And again when she got the
Speaker 2: script too, she's like, some of this stuff doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: The organizer said, I just just improvise, Just improvise. And
Speaker 2: that's the part that makes me feel partially that this
Speaker 2: was definitely AI generated, Like otherwise, wouldn't you want the
Speaker 2: actors you were, I guess allegedly going to pay to
Speaker 2: sort of like execute your creative vision, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, rather than just be like fuck you just
Speaker 2: say whatever fuck you want.
Speaker 6: I don't know they had a captive audience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so here's the thing. We do have a little
Speaker 2: a few excerpts from the actually downloaded the whole script.
Speaker 2: Someone uploaded it to the internet that all the actors got,
Speaker 2: and I'm also like, so I'm looking at this. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of interesting stuff. So there's one one thing
Speaker 2: is clear when you look at it. For me, it
Speaker 2: feels very computer generated and those details will be kind
Speaker 2: of self apparent when we read it. But also, this
Speaker 2: production would have won a fucking Tony Award for how
Speaker 2: out like, how out there. Some of these special effects
Speaker 2: were supposed to be as sort of described in the script.
Speaker 2: This is from a part It says, this is from
Speaker 2: a scene where they go into this enchanted force. It says, parenthetical, Jack,
Speaker 2: do you want to read wonky Doodle? And I'll be
Speaker 2: Willie McDuff aha. So this is a parenthetical. Audience members
Speaker 2: engaged with the interactive flowers, offering compliments to which the
Speaker 2: flowers respond with pre recorded whimsical fank youse.
Speaker 1: Oh, there are flowers that speak in this production. Like,
Speaker 1: just keeping in mind that when you got there, it
Speaker 1: looked like just the grimmest room where like multiple crimes
Speaker 1: have taken place like in this person's vision, it is
Speaker 1: a place where there are flowers that are kind of
Speaker 1: challenging the technology, like the bounds of technology. And then
Speaker 1: we cut to me Wonky Doodle one saying to a guest, oh,
Speaker 1: and if you see a butterfly, whisper your sweetest dream
Speaker 1: to it. There are official secret keepers and dream carriers
Speaker 1: of the garden. And then Williamcy says in parenthetical gathering
Speaker 1: everyone's attention. Now I must ask, has anyone seen the
Speaker 1: elusive bubble bloom. It's a rare flower that blooms just
Speaker 1: once every blue moon and fills the air with shimmering bubbles.
Speaker 1: The stage crew discreetly activates bubble machines, filling the area
Speaker 1: with bubbles, causing excitement and wonder among the audience.
Speaker 2: That's why I think it's ai. When you start saying
Speaker 2: how people are going to react to it, that is
Speaker 2: not That's not I think this is.
Speaker 1: I think this is just somebody who is yeah and
Speaker 1: has you know, they're just they they expect this to
Speaker 1: go exactly how they have it in their little that
Speaker 1: they are overdosed on whimsy and just believe that they
Speaker 1: can create magic just by hoping that it happens. Sorry,
Speaker 1: wanky doodle too, not to be confused with my previous
Speaker 1: character or or pretending to catch bubbles quick eat bubble
Speaker 1: holds a whisper of enchantment. Catch one and make a wish.
Speaker 2: Willie McDuff, as the bubble catching frenzy continues, Remember in
Speaker 2: the Garden of Enchantment, every moment is a chance of magic.
Speaker 2: Every corner hides a story, and every bubble catches a
Speaker 2: bubble holds a dream parenthetical. He opens his hand and
Speaker 2: the bubble gently pops, releasing a small twinkling light that
Speaker 2: ascends into the rafters, leaving the audience in awe. There's
Speaker 2: no way you could do this shit at all. Do
Speaker 2: that on Pandora at Disney.
Speaker 1: World, Like, that's how the fuck did you think that
Speaker 1: was going to happen? Yeah?
Speaker 6: YEAHS has never oversold their ability.
Speaker 1: I know, that's fag you make it. This feels like
Speaker 1: pretty identifiable, but like the wishful thinking in the script
Speaker 1: is just really like it just gives you a head
Speaker 1: Like the difference between what they had in mind and
Speaker 1: the grim vibe of the actual room like gives me
Speaker 1: a head rush. It's like so just unbelievably different.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but I think the other thing, it's like
Speaker 2: it this to your point, Katie, I think in a
Speaker 2: way it really makes clear what like how people are
Speaker 2: going to use AI, like, especially for people in decision
Speaker 2: making positions, because I feel like they were probably people
Speaker 2: who put this on probably so wowed and razzled, like yo,
Speaker 2: I just said this thing, and it.
Speaker 9: Came up with all these wild ideas like a light,
Speaker 9: a light will go to the rafters, out the bubble,
Speaker 9: like we don't need people no more like and I
Speaker 9: can see how someone in the C suite who who
Speaker 9: has no experience writing or doing anything creative would see.
Speaker 2: That and be like, yo, this is it. This is it?
Speaker 2: Like you know, it's a rap. I'm paying people to
Speaker 2: have actual ideas. So again, like our guests on Tuesday's
Speaker 2: episode said, resist the urge to be impressed by AI folks, right,
Speaker 2: But yeah, to your point, Jack Or I think I
Speaker 2: think kab were also is saying like, you know, we
Speaker 2: we we will oversell ourselves. You know, we'll fake it
Speaker 2: till we make it. But it also feels like that
Speaker 2: is kind of like the refrain that you hear from
Speaker 2: scammers when they get caught, they'll do some version of
Speaker 2: like it's just so, I'm just so disappointed and what
Speaker 2: came out. You know, I really wanted it to be
Speaker 2: something special for the kids, and instead they got a
Speaker 2: big old con job. And I feel bad about that
Speaker 2: because this guy who put it on he also apparently
Speaker 2: got in trouble in twenty twenty one for having a
Speaker 2: Santa's Grotto event. I don't know why Santa needs a.
Speaker 5: Grotto, like ceial scammering, right, yeah, grotto. Isn't that more
Speaker 5: associated with like a crumpet or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like a cave enclosure type thing. I just
Speaker 2: think of like the Sordid Grotto from the Playboy Mansion,
Speaker 2: which is like a hidden pool. But like, apparently he
Speaker 2: canceled this event once people donated gifts and stuff and money,
Speaker 2: like just canceled it. The Santa Wan Oh yeah, the
Speaker 2: Santa guy from a House of Illuminati Productions. Oh is
Speaker 2: the name of his company.
Speaker 1: There was no way to tell that this was in
Speaker 1: any way off is house spelled h A U S No.
Speaker 1: No house not going full of scammer with that one.
Speaker 6: No, But with scamming, you have to have a code
Speaker 6: of ethics, Like, you can't be out here scamming little
Speaker 6: kids like this. If you're gonna scam, you need to
Speaker 6: scan the United States government scam, Walmart scam, multinational corporations.
Speaker 6: Why are you scamming families that use their heart earned
Speaker 6: money to give their kids a little experience.
Speaker 5: Because money is money. These people are not thinking with logic.
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, that's why they'll always get caught up. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you get a PPP loan. I know this was in
Speaker 6: the United States, but exactly, scam a PPP loan.
Speaker 5: You know what this sounds like to me? Right, I mean,
Speaker 5: courses are really hot right now. You can sell an
Speaker 5: online course about scamming me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're right, thank you.
Speaker 2: H You're like, here's set up. You're going to set
Speaker 2: up a defense contractor company to work with the Pentagon,
Speaker 2: and trust me, they will just turn the money hose
Speaker 2: on for anybody.
Speaker 6: Exactly.
Speaker 1: I mean this sort of like Firefest esque pop culture
Speaker 1: fandom based scam definitely pre dates AI. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: that the like the definitely the artwork that they sent
Speaker 1: out had something to do with AI.
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying more people are going to try it
Speaker 2: because definitely, Yeah, it's easier for.
Speaker 1: Them to like just just shoot copy out. But like
Speaker 1: back in twenty nineteen, people paid fifty dollars for a
Speaker 1: Harry Potter themed event and the wind making station was
Speaker 1: at table with scattered chopsticks and glitter, and the magical
Speaker 1: cocktail was gin and tonics and rum and cokes. This
Speaker 1: the wind making station has a sign that is just
Speaker 1: a whiteboard with wand Making Station written on like a
Speaker 1: sharp edition of the stars.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they put some razzle dazzle on you.
Speaker 2: You know how quickly those stars were drawn. You can
Speaker 2: you can tell by the shape of the stars. Someone
Speaker 2: just went fuck it. Let me just shush this up.
Speaker 2: And they really have like Chinese restaurant like to go
Speaker 2: chopsticks like still in the wrapper saying wand Making station.
Speaker 1: This one with photus candles, like the little tiny candles.
Speaker 5: To be fair true to material though it is wood.
Speaker 6: So it's your mom is doing it for your friends,
Speaker 6: you know, like we're gonna have a little Harry Potter
Speaker 6: moment and your mom does that, It's like, okay, your mom,
Speaker 6: she really cared about y'all.
Speaker 2: But pay them for that fifty bucks, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: But the same deal as this one that one just
Speaker 1: came back to one person who claimed I'm not a scammer.
Speaker 1: I just didn't nail all details, which implies like I
Speaker 1: knowed some of the details, but give me some. Give
Speaker 1: me here. Did you see the stars on the White Boy?
Speaker 1: Can we go?
Speaker 2: Did you not hear my lawyer? Did you not hear
Speaker 2: my lawyer? The chopsticks are made of wood? Harry Potter?
Speaker 2: So the rest of my case.
Speaker 1: No further questions for the questions. All right, let's take
Speaker 1: a quick break and we'll come back and talk about
Speaker 1: some good a good side of technology. We'll be right back,
Speaker 1: and we're back. We are back, and we are, of
Speaker 1: course inundated with stories about people wearing vision pro while
Speaker 1: driving a car or operating a forklift loaded with nitroglycerin.
Speaker 1: But it's worth noting that virtual reality can be a
Speaker 1: less stupid thing, because there's a recent Stanford study that
Speaker 1: showed the VR had a big impact in nursing homes,
Speaker 1: where singers chose from virtual experiences ranging from riding in
Speaker 1: a tank to which you know, my five year old
Speaker 1: would absolutely true. What does that mean, like recapture glory
Speaker 1: days from like the war? Yeah, riding in a tank
Speaker 1: and then doing what Yeah, but yeah, just writing I
Speaker 1: don't want to know. Yeah, playing with puppies and kittens,
Speaker 1: to visiting countries like Paris or Egypt countries, countries like Paris.
Speaker 1: That might be our bad, that might be a mistaken
Speaker 1: a copy.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: But the study found that sixty percent of the singers
Speaker 1: felt less isolated socially thanks to VR. Seventy five percent
Speaker 1: of caregivers said residents moods improved after using the VR.
Speaker 1: And see that. Yeah, I mean, like, in talking about
Speaker 1: AI and a lot of the technology that it's emerging
Speaker 1: right now, we've kind of hit on this general theme
Speaker 1: that when it's something that you're playing with, it can
Speaker 1: be fun and like if that's all you're looking for,
Speaker 1: is like a fun thing to play with, And like
Speaker 1: that seems to be where the technology has promised. When
Speaker 1: it's being used to like systemically like take people's jobs
Speaker 1: or like replace human beings, it doesn't work very well
Speaker 1: or make medical decisions, make medical decisions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it does remind me of like I remember
Speaker 2: there are always these videos that would go viral like
Speaker 2: ten years ago, of like a person in like a
Speaker 2: nursing home, and like they would hear the music from
Speaker 2: their childhood and like you would just see their eyes
Speaker 2: light up and stuff, and like they were talking and
Speaker 2: like they had a lot to do. And it's called
Speaker 2: reminiscence therapy. Yeah, so it's interesting to see something like
Speaker 2: that got kind of taken to the next level where
Speaker 2: it's like, no, put these put these go out goggles on,
Speaker 2: and like, guess where we are. We're back in that tank, baby,
Speaker 2: back in that tank where you get first sell in love,
Speaker 2: right right right? But yeah, I mean I think it
Speaker 2: is one of those things where it's like a bit
Speaker 2: of a you know, it's like when you start talking
Speaker 2: about nursing homes, like you also there's also like huge
Speaker 2: issues with nursing homes, even as we've talked about on
Speaker 2: this show, like with private equity coming in and completely
Speaker 2: like diluting the care that is available to people and
Speaker 2: how it's like subpar and like leaves people in terrible situations. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so it's like, can we get the people paid more
Speaker 2: to like because I feel like the lazy thing, like, man,
Speaker 2: you know, how we're going to get things better? Just
Speaker 2: give these people VR goggles.
Speaker 1: They don't need real.
Speaker 6: Life feel giving.
Speaker 5: It feels like an easier way to neglect. It's like
Speaker 5: a direct path to more neglect. I feel like could interaction.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I also saw one lady saying like she wanted
Speaker 6: to go back to the nineteen sixties. I was like, why,
Speaker 6: white lady, why do you want to go back to
Speaker 6: the nineteen.
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, but about that that does happen with
Speaker 5: but when they get older, like and we want to go.
Speaker 6: Back to them segregate lunch counter. No, I'm not allowing it.
Speaker 5: I believe that.
Speaker 1: I believe.
Speaker 5: I believe that, But too, I do think it could
Speaker 5: be helpful, like because a lot of the times they
Speaker 5: do go back, like at the end of their lives,
Speaker 5: back to situations and it's kind of hard to deal
Speaker 5: with as a person who's a caretaker or like who's
Speaker 5: coming to visit people and they're having those those visions. Basicly, basically,
Speaker 5: it's like what do I say, I'm not there with them.
Speaker 5: So I think like having that as a supplemental aid
Speaker 5: when you are actually spending time with them, having those experiences.
Speaker 1: Could be pretty supplemental is the key word, as opposed
Speaker 1: to replacing way whole plan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, care I think.
Speaker 1: Like we we did an interview with somebody who's an
Speaker 1: expert on like all the ways that private equity has
Speaker 1: just like come through and destroyed a number of different
Speaker 1: American industries and companies. And this was I think like
Speaker 1: the main or like one of the three industries that
Speaker 1: the book like really focused on. It was just like
Speaker 1: that they came through. They took over a bunch of
Speaker 1: these companies that ran nursing homes and slashed budgets to
Speaker 1: inoperable levels. And then you know, when those nursing homes
Speaker 1: go out of business, the private equity companies have already
Speaker 1: extracted fees and end up doing okay because you know,
Speaker 1: they have these massive contracts and these like byzantine arrangements
Speaker 1: where they like secretly own the company without like outwardly,
Speaker 1: without anybody like really even knowing their name. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: I like, on the one hand, nursing, the you know,
Speaker 1: elderly care industry has a really bad name, but I
Speaker 1: think it's because we've just come through this period.
Speaker 2: Where private equity ravaged it.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I'm hoping that there is a possible
Speaker 1: future where you know, that gets corrected and these are supplemental,
Speaker 1: like you said, Eves, instead of just a thing that
Speaker 1: they're like, all right, we can fire five nurses and
Speaker 1: just because we because we bought a VR headset.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like Katie's idea, though, maybe if that person's like,
Speaker 2: I want to go back to reconstruction America. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: let me load up a memory for you real quick.
Speaker 2: And I was just completely fuck with them. It's like
Speaker 2: black people are running everything, and.
Speaker 1: The image of the unknown the lives.
Speaker 5: Now for sure.
Speaker 6: I think with all this technology is it's like, no
Speaker 6: one really needs this, but we do need like universal
Speaker 6: health care, right, But I.
Speaker 5: Think we're in that We're in that place with a
Speaker 5: lot of technology today. It's like we're moving beyond the
Speaker 5: point of necessity and then to the point of just
Speaker 5: we're just figuring out what to do with But we
Speaker 5: don't have.
Speaker 6: The necessities at all.
Speaker 5: No, we don't have their las.
Speaker 2: Yeah move, but they have you feeling like what you
Speaker 2: need is an Apple Vision process.
Speaker 1: To get out.
Speaker 2: What I need is my insurance company to cover my meds.
Speaker 5: Is affordable housing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, while we wait on those, wouldn't it be
Speaker 1: nice to take a vacation to the country of Paris,
Speaker 1: the Great nation of Hobby? All right, Well, Katie Eve's
Speaker 1: truly such a pleasure having you both on the daily.
Speaker 1: He's like, guys, where can people find you? Follow you
Speaker 1: all that good stuff?
Speaker 5: You can follow us on Instagram at on Theme Show.
Speaker 5: You can also hit us up via email at hello
Speaker 5: at on Theme dot Show. You can also find all
Speaker 5: the show notes at on Theme dot Show and go
Speaker 5: listen to the podcast on Things about Black Storytelling. It's
Speaker 5: really awesome. You'll probably find stuff if you're interested in blackness,
Speaker 5: if you're interested in storytelling and just storytelling in general,
Speaker 5: you'll probably find something you love there. Personally, I'm on
Speaker 5: Instagram at not apologizing and did I get it all?
Speaker 1: Kiddie? Got it? Can you anywhere on social media?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: Personally all right?
Speaker 2: Ghost all right, there you go. That's why you're so happy.
Speaker 1: I feel like, and is there a work of media
Speaker 1: that you guys have been enjoying.
Speaker 5: I have been going back and watching the old UFCS lately,
Speaker 5: like the first first seven or something like that, like
Speaker 5: starting from the beginning. This was the I'm not really
Speaker 5: a sports watcher at all. Is something that my husband
Speaker 5: got me into over the years, but like it's been
Speaker 5: very entertaining because it's just like it's that one it
Speaker 5: just feels very primitive all of the old like seeing
Speaker 5: that that segment of time and period in media when
Speaker 5: things were so irreverent didn't make any sense. A lot
Speaker 5: of things were stupid, honestly, a lot of the things
Speaker 5: that people said had made no sense. And also like
Speaker 5: going and looking into some of the people's history who
Speaker 5: fought for the UFC, and it's very problematic in those
Speaker 5: early years, and the commentators got I mean, yeah, it's
Speaker 5: it's been like an escapism mode for me and something
Speaker 5: that's like very far away from all of the other
Speaker 5: serious historical philosophical things that I'm focused.
Speaker 1: On a lot of the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those those early like fights are so wild to
Speaker 2: watch because you're like, I think a truck driver is
Speaker 2: fighting a karate man.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Literally, their theme they used to have things back
Speaker 5: in the day, And one of the themes I just
Speaker 5: watched was David versus Goliath, where they purposely put people
Speaker 5: together who were in absolutely different It would be like
Speaker 5: a six hundred pound person and a two hundred and
Speaker 5: fifty pound person, and it was just it was there
Speaker 5: are some I can't go on forever about this because
Speaker 5: there are so many things about the marketing and the
Speaker 5: ways that they set up the shows that you could
Speaker 5: really tell they were trying to find their footing and
Speaker 5: they had no fucking clue. And one thing I will
Speaker 5: say that it teaches me is that like if if
Speaker 5: those people, if those white men could like be like
Speaker 5: I think I want to do this thing. We're different disciplines,
Speaker 5: fight each other and I don't know what I'm doing,
Speaker 5: but we're gonna put it on television and it really
Speaker 5: makes no sense and I feel like I can do
Speaker 5: anything like it's It's been very motivational for me.
Speaker 1: I used to rent those at Blockbuster, like that was
Speaker 1: those early UFC specials were like a real rent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because that I remember that was the only
Speaker 2: way to watch them. Really yeah. I saw a bootleg
Speaker 2: one and I was like, what the fuck guy, how come?
Speaker 5: I'm like, how come the other.
Speaker 2: Guys weren't like a gey like a uniform, And I'm like,
Speaker 2: and this guy his name is Tank Abbott.
Speaker 1: This is all very Yeah, it's hilarious.
Speaker 5: Highly recommend.
Speaker 2: Honestly I was not expecting that, and recommend watch the early.
Speaker 5: You know, get you get the discipline and you get
Speaker 5: the like people who actually know how to fight in
Speaker 5: may these days when you watch it, and also you
Speaker 5: get way more diversity, like watching women, watching people who
Speaker 5: like watching black people. You know, there are a lot
Speaker 5: of things that have changed over time, like and me
Speaker 5: having started watching it later and going back and seeing
Speaker 5: how they did it before. It's been it's been enviightening
Speaker 5: to say, yeah, what about you, Katie.
Speaker 6: I've been reading this collection of short stories called Neighbors
Speaker 6: and Other Stories by Diane Oliver, and it was published
Speaker 6: recently and posthumously. She died in nineteen sixty six at
Speaker 6: the age of twenty two while she was on a motorcycle,
Speaker 6: and a lot of her work had been pretty much
Speaker 6: forgotten until like twenty twenty one, I believe when someone
Speaker 6: just found her one of her short stories in an
Speaker 6: anthology and wrote about her, and that led to her
Speaker 6: being republished. So I always find it like super interesting
Speaker 6: one writers are published postub like would they have liked
Speaker 6: these stories together? How do they feel about it? She
Speaker 6: was twenty two, so she didn't have any kids or anything.
Speaker 6: So it's her sister and nieces who she never met
Speaker 6: doing her estate stuff. But it's about it's a collection
Speaker 6: of stories about Jim Crow era people who are integrating
Speaker 6: certain situations, whether at school or lunch counters. But it's
Speaker 6: kind of showing the side of it's not always a
Speaker 6: positive thing to be a part of history. Like if
Speaker 6: you were Ruby Bridges, what is that actual told on
Speaker 6: you as a little kid?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 6: And not just like oh I'm a part of history,
Speaker 6: I'm changing things for the better, but like as a person,
Speaker 6: how does it feel to be in such these like
Speaker 6: tumultuous times. So it's a really interesting thing. And like
Speaker 6: I said, she died in nineteen sixty six, so she
Speaker 6: was writing it as contemporary stories and not like historical fiction,
Speaker 6: right right, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's an amazing recommendation. Which which UFC is
Speaker 1: your favorite thing?
Speaker 6: Thing?
Speaker 1: Did any of the Davids win, by the way, I'm
Speaker 1: always curious about.
Speaker 5: Honestly, that's a good question. I feel like the Goliaths
Speaker 5: went most of the time.
Speaker 1: That Goliaths the whole time.
Speaker 5: I gotta go, look, I'm not mad at the second watch.
Speaker 5: I'll go back and watch that.
Speaker 2: Get stats down.
Speaker 5: Also, the stats that they used to just they made
Speaker 5: no sense. One was like thinker. I was like, what
Speaker 5: does that have to do with what is him being
Speaker 5: a thinker? Have to do with anything but this one
Speaker 5: we have versus a child.
Speaker 1: Yeah, shack one damn.
Speaker 5: But yeah, the weight didn't work for them all the time.
Speaker 1: Right, Miles, where can people find you? Is their working
Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying?
Speaker 2: Yeah, find me at Miles of Gray on all the
Speaker 2: social platforms. You can find us Miles and Jack on
Speaker 2: our basketball podcast Miles and Jack cot math Lucy's uh.
Speaker 2: You can also find me on my ninety dance podcast
Speaker 2: for twenty Day Fiance and Let's see tweet I like
Speaker 2: it's from Ellie Cremandal at Ellie Creamandal tweeted so weird
Speaker 2: when you meet a girl with the same name as
Speaker 2: your sister because they're like, Hi, I'm Jenna and you're like, no.
Speaker 1: You are not.
Speaker 2: I am sorry, but you are not. Yeah, that's happen
Speaker 2: with people say they.
Speaker 1: Have my mom's name. I'm like, you're not. Don't come
Speaker 1: to meet with this. That's not you. That's my mom's name. Incorrect.
Speaker 1: I've been enjoying the clip of Richard Lewis when he
Speaker 1: was sixteen on a candid camera. Just a a lot
Speaker 1: of good Richard Lewis clips a right p to him.
Speaker 1: If you can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.
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Speaker 1: off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. Well,
Speaker 1: it is a song that we think you might enjoy, Miles,
Speaker 1: is there a song that you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kate Bollinger is the vocalist from Virginia and like,
Speaker 2: just again these artists who kind of go with that
Speaker 2: throwback style when like you listen to your like, was
Speaker 2: this recording in the seventies or is this now one
Speaker 2: of those kind of contemporary retro artists. This track is
Speaker 2: called untitled, and yeah, like it's just a just a
Speaker 2: really nice you know, take this track into your weekend relax,
Speaker 2: just you know, just melt away into a world of
Speaker 2: pure imagination. As they say at.
Speaker 1: Willie McNichols chocolate wankery or whatever, it's cocolate fingery, all right.
Speaker 1: We will link off to that in the footnotes the
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Speaker 2: That is going to do it for us this week.
Speaker 1: We're back over the weekend with a digest of from
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