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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season three, twenty seven,

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Speaker 1: Episode five of Dirt Daily production of My Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive

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Speaker 1: into america shared consciousness. And it is Friday, March first,

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Speaker 1: What twenty twenty four? It is? It happened. It finally happened.

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Speaker 2: I thought I thought February was just gonna keep going.

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Speaker 2: I thought I was fine with February thirtieth. Wow March

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Speaker 2: for Wow is a lot of okay. So let me

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Speaker 2: just take a deep breath. Because it's National Sunkest Citrus Date,

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Speaker 2: Self Injury Awareness Day, National Minnesota Day, National Dress and

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Speaker 2: Blue Day, National Speech and Debate Education Day, National Dad Gum,

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Speaker 2: That's good Day, National Employee Appreciation Day, Global Day of Unplugging,

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Speaker 2: National Readacross America Day, National Horse Protection Day, National Fruit

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Speaker 2: Compote Day Day. Wait, there's more, National Pig Day and

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Speaker 2: National Peanut Butter Lover's Day. It is Wow March versus

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Speaker 2: like they were holding their breath before.

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Speaker 1: Little Congeste all out at once.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, Oh, I wonder if that's why Schoolboy Q

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Speaker 2: put out his album today because it's National Dress and

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Speaker 2: Blue Day. That would make sense, Like maybe, yeah, I feel.

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Speaker 1: Like school boy Q is not like checking for the

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Speaker 1: national I mean, it's not like Secretary's Day. Fellas, I

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Speaker 1: don't know.

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Speaker 2: He's such a crypt that I feel like he was like, man,

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Speaker 2: I'm pluting blue lips out on national dress and Blue Day.

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Speaker 1: I don't know his national dress and Blue Day organized

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Speaker 1: by the cryps.

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Speaker 2: Though no I would know. Image looks like a bunch

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Speaker 2: of people in a retirement community wearing different shades of blue.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, Oh, it's about it's about racing colon cancer awareness.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this now very important.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and that is an epidemic that is striking

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Speaker 2: the country as younger and younger people being diagnosed. Wow.

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Speaker 2: I was like, is this a crypt thing?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: They are often at you know, working in parallel purposes though,

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Speaker 1: the crips and the colon cancer where next community. Well,

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Speaker 1: my name is Jack O'Brien aka baby Now we got measles.

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Speaker 1: You know we used to not have none, so really,

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Speaker 1: fuck Andrew wake feel because baby now we got me easels.

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Speaker 1: That is courtesy a panoramic view on the disc oldest

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Speaker 1: in reference past.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, reference to the fact that we have measos now. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: thank you anti vaxer community, and I'm thrilled to be

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Speaker 3: joined as always by.

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Speaker 1: My co host, mister Miles grad What day is it?

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Speaker 4: Wait? Hold on but brother Jack in the back, Sweet

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Speaker 4: Miles in the front, cruising through the week until we

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Speaker 4: hit March one. Suddenly, red blue lights flash us from behind,

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Speaker 4: loud voice booming, Please step out onto the line, Jack

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Speaker 4: preached words of comfort. Miles just hides eyes. Policeman taps

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Speaker 4: his shades. Did you forget the twenty ninth?

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Speaker 2: How bizarre?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 2: Wow, wow, we're trying to cope with the leap year.

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Speaker 2: We didn't know what day it was and shout out

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Speaker 2: Zach Vanders. We can't wait four years to use this again,

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Speaker 2: so you know what, I will shoehorned it on March

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Speaker 2: first today to recognize the leap year.

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Speaker 1: The leak Oh man, yeah, what a day. My kids

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Speaker 1: were on my ass immediately when I woke up, just

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Speaker 1: being like, it's leap day?

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Speaker 2: What are we doing? Boy? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. You didn't tell me I needed some Anyways, Miles,

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Speaker 1: We are thrilled to be joined in our third and

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Speaker 1: fourth seats by the hosts of the Wonderful podcast on

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Speaker 1: Theme where you can hear them discuss everything from the

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Speaker 1: weaponization of rap lyrics by the legal system to fictional

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Speaker 1: characters they want to reach through the screen and slat.

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Speaker 1: He's Jeff cod and Katie Mitchell.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for stopping by.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for stopping by, Thanks for stopping that. How are

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Speaker 1: you guys doing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: How how how is it?

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Speaker 2: How is it?

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Speaker 1: How's it over there in Atlanta?

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Speaker 5: In Atlanta, it's always something going on in Atlanta. Some

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Speaker 5: scam here and there is.

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Speaker 1: There going on.

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Speaker 2: Other than cop City? What else is what other scams

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Speaker 2: are they running over there?

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Speaker 6: The parking here is a scam. Yeah, they sold it

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Speaker 6: to a private company for one hundred years for hell

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Speaker 6: low and they are taxing out here.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, we know about that in l A too.

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Speaker 6: In the parking lots at the mall they have security.

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Speaker 6: What yes, I learned that. What do you mean parking lot?

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Speaker 6: The mall got security at Lintics. There's a parking lot

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Speaker 6: Atlantics where you have to go through security. Just again

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Speaker 6: the parking lot. Oh like to just stop stealing because because.

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Speaker 5: Atlanta thinks everything's a club, that's another scam.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, everything so exclusive. You gotta wait and line get

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Speaker 6: into the parking lot. And to leave the parking lot

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Speaker 6: like this is dangerous.

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Speaker 2: I feel. Yeah, They're like they're checking you. They're like,

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Speaker 2: hold on, the ratios, aren't good, man, I can't let

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Speaker 2: you in.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: You need some more ladies with you. Yeah, otherwise you

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Speaker 2: can't get your car. Wow. Okay, So everything is like

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Speaker 2: or is it more militarized security. Not really, It's more

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Speaker 2: like somebody there like yeah, yeah, yeah, right.

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Speaker 5: Somebody who isn't really qualified to be right right anything.

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Speaker 2: Naturally naturally.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Parking lot gimmicks are yeah, we know them well in La,

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Speaker 2: don't we check in our own studio parking lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Our studio had for a while somebody who was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, he he had something going. We weren't quite sure,

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Speaker 1: but he would always try and hit us five days

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Speaker 1: early for payment and then like forget that we had

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Speaker 1: paid him at various points and he just yeah, he

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Speaker 1: had a lot of plates spinning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It was interesting, and he was he was mean people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you gotta be nice, Yeah, yeah, exactly mean bedside

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Speaker 3: that side scammers, scammer.

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Speaker 5: I just want to stay for the record though, that

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Speaker 5: I do love Atlanta, and I'm actually not one of

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Speaker 5: those folks who says, nobody come here, we're full. I

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Speaker 5: actually think we're not full, right, right, more people can come,

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Speaker 5: but I just want to correct.

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Speaker 1: Director Private Equity Parking Company's hands with that one. All right, well,

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Speaker 1: we're going to get to know you both a little

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Speaker 1: bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things

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Speaker 1: we're talking about. The Supreme Court will rule on Trump's immunity.

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Speaker 1: They will just do it very very slowly, almost like

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Speaker 1: they're running interference, so that this court, the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 1: have to go to trial before he has a chance

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Speaker 1: to be elected president. So we'll talk about that. We will,

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Speaker 1: of course continue to check in with the developing situation,

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Speaker 1: the Shitty Willy Wonka experience that was put on in Glasgow.

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Speaker 2: How'd I do Glasgow?

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Speaker 1: Glasgow?

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Speaker 2: You gotta fight, though, you gotta fight? How you want

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Speaker 2: to phonetically say it? When you see it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's just more details coming out. We have scripts.

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Speaker 2: Wait I generated?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Are they generated? Are they generated

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Speaker 1: by a genius? It's hard, it's hard to tell. There

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Speaker 1: is a new villain that probably is going to get

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Speaker 1: their own horror movie. Who is Lurking, a chocolateeer who

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Speaker 1: lives in the walls.

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Speaker 2: That so not great world building.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll talk about VR improving the lives of

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Speaker 1: senior citizens virtual reality possibly, you know, if if private

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Speaker 1: equity doesn't manage to fuck that up, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: it's a way that technology could actually make people's lives

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Speaker 1: a little bit better. All of that plenty more, But first, Katie,

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Speaker 1: we do like to ask our guests what is something

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Speaker 1: from your search history? Or we're also opening it up

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Speaker 1: to what's the most recent thing that you've screencapped? Either

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Speaker 1: either or.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's more revealing going those screenshots? What do we got?

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Speaker 5: Let me let me keet looking at the screenshot because

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Speaker 5: my search history has been whack.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, real whack.

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Speaker 6: My screencaps are boring?

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Speaker 5: Okay, did you have one forst search history? I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: look through my photos.

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Speaker 6: My I recently looked up if Mike Epps has been

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Speaker 6: to jail. I saw him on a commercial and I

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Speaker 6: was like, I wonder if you'd been in jail, because

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Speaker 6: he was talking about like, oh, when you in jail,

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Speaker 6: even ain't even really like that. But he has been

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Speaker 6: to jail several times. He that's a lot of illegal things. Really,

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Speaker 6: he has sold drugs at one point. He see, he

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Speaker 6: didn't even go to jail for this next one. He

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So props to him for telling the truth on

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Speaker 5: Okay, do they take people to jail for bringing guns?

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Speaker 5: Don't they just take them? Because like Atlanta's like the

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Speaker 1: They really frown on it. I remember there was a

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Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you just take it away right from them.

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Speaker 1: But I remember there was like a football coach in

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Speaker 1: forgetting not to bring a gun to the airport, which

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Speaker 1: is such a funny crime. But I'm pretty sure he

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Speaker 6: So well, I mean, if you keep doing it at

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Speaker 6: a certain point, start to look suspicious.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because that was that guy, Madison Cawthorne the former

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Speaker 2: congress member. I remember he brought a gun too, and

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Speaker 2: I think, well, maybe his complexion did some work for

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Speaker 2: I have to go to court for bringing a gun

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Speaker 2: in my carry on luggage. But the guy I was

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Speaker 2: talking about, Barry Switzer, Cowboys coach, arrested after pistol found

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Speaker 2: in bag at Dallas Fort Worth Airport. So I mean

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Speaker 2: the coach.

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Speaker 1: Of the Cowboys, like at the Dallas Fort Worth Airport

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Speaker 1: and they still arrested him. I mean, maybe they had

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Speaker 1: a bad season that year, and.

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Speaker 2: That's all right. Who could have more power in the states, right,

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Speaker 2: but that's.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's might as well be the governor.

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Speaker 2: Wait and Mike Epp special was he talking in a

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Speaker 6: So, I know, Mike Epps, he might have crossed over

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Speaker 6: why why are you in jail like that? Like I

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Speaker 6: don't I don't trust it because you've been famous to

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Speaker 6: me since the nineties, right, So I want to expect

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Speaker 6: you to just be like in the streets like where

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Speaker 6: you would be getting locked up like that, right, But

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Speaker 5: He ate that she ate that was her legacy.

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Speaker 2: Right, how would you? But what would you do for

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I like that. What would you make?

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Speaker 6: Something real, real, soulful. I gotta put some corn bread,

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Speaker 5: Look, if it was my family, they're gonna be mad

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Speaker 5: if the ain't no meat.

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Speaker 1: At the repat.

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Speaker 6: I know mine, so soig one with the pork and

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Speaker 1: What is What's something that you think is underrated?

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Speaker 6: I think being a hater is underrated. And we talked

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Speaker 2: Yeah, your outside opinion of me sort of spurred me

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Speaker 6: Yeah, if you were just being nice to me, I

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Speaker 1: I just like in my search history is somebody. So

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Speaker 1: Sony had this like outspoken critic who just hated all

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Speaker 5: WHOA, That's not how I thought that was gonna know,

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, truly you can find a well informed

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Speaker 2: Make them your boss.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I feel like the United States should do that for me,

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Speaker 5: Like president, Yeah, but you don't want to be president.

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Speaker 5: But I was thinking it could be. This could be

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Speaker 1: It's employment. Yeah, I'll here first.

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Speaker 2: We heard it here first.

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Speaker 1: Plus such a thin line, like whenever somebody gets caught

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Speaker 6: For sure, especially if like you see your fath getting

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the principal critique, and I will stand by

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Speaker 5: So I think rekindling old friendships is underrated and this

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Speaker 1: hear that, Thank you very much. What's something you think

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Speaker 5: always come off as mediocre.

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00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 2: Or right, or like someone who could do no wrong

445
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,399
Speaker 2: or something like that, like and he was actually the

446
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 2: hero of.

447
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 5: Everything, right, yeah, because they have no structure.

448
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 2: There's some complexities there with his life for sure. And

449
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,160
Speaker 2: also we were hating on the wig. First of all.

450
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 2: The first thing I said are.

451
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 8: Like, no, no, no, no.

452
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,880
Speaker 5: Nobody wigs, right, nobody does.

453
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 2: That's like you could have find it about Jamaican and

454
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,679
Speaker 2: a Jamaican actor who already had dreads or something like that.

455
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 2: You had to go find this is he from the

456
00:21:58,359 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 2: UK like that.

457
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

458
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 2: I just remember being like this is trash man, Like

459
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 2: I can't even I can't. I can't look at this

460
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 2: because the wigs were the wig was so bad.

461
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,479
Speaker 5: The wig was wiggy. Okay, it's always the scalp with locks.

462
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 5: It's the scalp. Yeah, they get wrong.

463
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 2: It's really hard to do and it's always like a

464
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 2: helmet with like it feels like a helmet was.

465
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 5: Yes, it was giving taller Perry wigs or from Walking Dead. Yeah, yeah,

466
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,199
Speaker 5: it's that's exactly what it was. And they tried to

467
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 5: like shout out to the wig makers. I know it's

468
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,679
Speaker 5: a hard job. I'm not saying that they are fully

469
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 5: talented and skilled and have been working on their crafts.

470
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,880
Speaker 5: They like tried to they lengthened the lig the wig

471
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 5: throughout the movie.

472
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 1: Yeah and all of.

473
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 5: That, and I'm like, okay, okay.

474
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 2: Wow, you did the guess the church.

475
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right, well.

476
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, bless your heart. At least you tried. Because

477
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 2: is there is there a thing too like with because

478
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 2: we were talking about this, I think maybe off Mike Jack,

479
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 2: but like some people are just kind of so cool,

480
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 2: like don't even bother trying to get somebody else to

481
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 2: capture that cool on screen, Like there was like a

482
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 2: Miles Davis biopic. I'm like, you can't that this dude

483
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 2: is also all over the place. You can't just be like, yeah,

484
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 2: now you're Miles Day, You're Bob Marley or whatever.

485
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 1: They're so iconic that you either have to like cast

486
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 1: the person who looks the most like them, like they

487
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 1: did with that Tupac one, but then yeah, person he

488
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: could not be able to act, so yeah, then yeah,

489
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: it's you're it's a real like you are trying to

490
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 1: thread the thinnest needle. And also yeah, like maybe like

491
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: a Tupac biography in one hundred years, maybe you know,

492
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: Like but like when no one remembers who, yeah remembers

493
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 1: and they're just like they've seen the pictures. But like

494
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 1: right now Bob Marley Tupac like way, way too soon.

495
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 5: I feel like, yeah, it needs some distance, and it

496
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 5: didn't make it any better that at the end of

497
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 5: the Bob Marley film. I don't know if I'm going

498
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 5: too hard on this right now, go ahead hating that much.

499
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 5: But at the end of the Bob Marley film they

500
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 5: show like actual footage of Bob Marley and comparing his

501
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 5: energy on stage to the energy that the actor was

502
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 5: giving was just miles away. It was like it was

503
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 5: so spirited and you could really see that coming out

504
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 5: in the clips, and having just seen the actor do

505
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 5: it in the film, I was like something was missing

506
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 5: that that Genna Sai Quad wasn't there.

507
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, get a job Chatwick. If Chatwick was alive, I

508
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 6: feel like he could play anybody great actor.

509
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you need. Like sometimes it works because yeah,

510
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 1: just like all, I don't remember you played someone, you

511
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: better quit it in that.

512
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 5: In that, yeah, I think he did. He did pay

513
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 5: their good Marshall.

514
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 6: I believe that wasn't matter at it actually Yeah.

515
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, also with Kingsley Benadere that's the name of the

516
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 2: actor who played him. But yeah, like I'm sure when

517
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 2: you see that juxtaposition of actual Bob Marley footage, it

518
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 2: really feels like your parents being like, yeah, we got

519
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 2: Bob Marley at home, don't worry.

520
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, yeah, Katie, what's something that you think

521
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: is overrated?

522
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 6: I think chick fil A is overrated, And I think

523
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 6: once we all band together and stop eating chick fil A,

524
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 6: that's when the revolution will happen. Wow, because they don't

525
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 6: like the gays, right, they don't like the blacks for real,

526
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 6: because the blacks and the Latinos be in the back

527
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 6: and not in the front interacting with customers.

528
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 2: Wow.

529
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 6: The chicken. I haven't had chicken in maybe ten years.

530
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 6: It wasn't i ahold. But other people make good chickens.

531
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 6: They're not the only ones. And people be acting like

532
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 6: they're the only ones just because they say please and

533
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 6: thank you and my pleasure, right, how to have higher

534
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 6: standards for ourselves.

535
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 5: The hard thing about this is that they're expanding.

536
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,719
Speaker 6: They're expanding like crazy, especially in Georgia.

537
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 5: Oh really the country, across the country. Yeah, there's like

538
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 5: four of them on my exit. Yeah, they're franchise model,

539
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 5: and it's like super hard to get into that. Their franchise.

540
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 5: They have a specific way model and they're never gonna

541
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 5: they're never gonna go public.

542
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: Right, I don't know how.

543
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 5: But I believe. I believe it. If you believe it,

544
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 5: I believe it.

545
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 6: The revolution right when we give up.

546
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 2: When people can like, yeah, the first principled consumer decision

547
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: like the entire country can collectively make, they'd be like,

548
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: aside from the morality, the chicken also like Popeyes is

549
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: better man. When I was in the Atlanta studio that's

550
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 2: by Delilah's, I had a chicken sandwich from there that

551
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 2: blew my socks.

552
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: Right off my feet. Like I saw that.

553
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: I was like a Willy Wonka exhibit. But yeah, that

554
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: was definitely like, yeah, I think it's just one of

555
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 2: those things. And I said this before when I think

556
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 2: was it Dulce Sloan who maybe or somebody was talking

557
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 2: about it, or maybe it was doctor John. Anyway, somebody

558
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 2: was also saying was coming with that overrated and.

559
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: It's probably one of our most common overrateds. And yeah, yeah,

560
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 1: I think it's time. I think it's like one of

561
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: those things.

562
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 2: It's like one of those things too, because in the

563
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 2: West Coast we never had it, like so when it

564
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: came on the West Coast, it was like what in

565
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: and out is to other places, but here the thing

566
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 2: I heard about from our relatives that live in the

567
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: South or the East Coast or whatever. And yeah, and

568
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 2: I think once that subsides, maybe people can you know,

569
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 2: we can all band together, can break just.

570
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 6: The novelty used to wear off a little bit.

571
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I think if anybody Katie and

572
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 5: I are actually from the land of true At Kathy

573
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 5: spent a lot of time growing up there where he lived.

574
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,239
Speaker 5: And I think if anybody can do it, we can

575
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 5: do it, because we can really, Yeah, we have original

576
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 5: quaim to the Chick fil A And if we can

577
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 5: do it, anybody in this country can do it.

578
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 6: You know. I went on a field trip to Chick

579
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 6: fil A ranch in elementary school.

580
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: It's a ranch.

581
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 6: I don't know if it still exists. It was so

582
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 6: fun they had and I'm picking them up now.

583
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, like we actually you know, second thought, I love

584
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: that's true.

585
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 6: At Kathy it was so fun that it was like

586
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 6: they had I guess it was like a cow sanctuary

587
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 6: something because you know they oh right right yeah, and

588
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 6: they had like those like what do they call connas

589
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 6: Conna stego wagons the yeah, the people going west was

590
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 6: that were in uh so we slept in those. It

591
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 6: was an overnight trip, mind you.

592
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: Wow.

593
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 6: We did somemores, We like cooked on the fire. It

594
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 6: was real fun.

595
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 5: That does sound fun today?

596
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 2: We should look you Yeah, let me change my overrates.

597
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 6: Actually they're underrated.

598
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: Under it.

599
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah the restaurant.

600
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I've talked about this before, but I

601
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: got as an award in middle school. I got to

602
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: go on this field trip and it was just the

603
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: long John Silver's headquarters, like corporate headquarters. The worst version

604
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: of your field trip, right, not even like they didn't

605
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: have any fun themed thing. You just like sat and

606
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: watched the fucking them go through some spreadsheets and then

607
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: got to eat one.

608
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, they need to work on their propaganda game.

609
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, I think it would be pretty cool

610
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 5: if they would have showed you all the different kinds

611
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 5: of fish that go into.

612
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: The what actually, yeah, right, we usually stand up at

613
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: a pet store to get this stuff put together.

614
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 5: That would be wild if they have been.

615
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: Goldfish mash is what you're actually getting? Oh man, All right,

616
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: well that's disgusting. Sorry to leave it on that note,

617
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: but we are going to take a quick break and

618
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna come back and we're gonna talk some news.

619
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: We'll be right back.

620
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: And we're back.

621
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: Sorry for the for the long delay. The crows are back,

622
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: but thanks everybody for the for the advice on basically

623
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: bribing them with nuts. I've put a bawl of almonds

624
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: in my backyard. So far it seems to be kind

625
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: of working.

626
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 2: But they are gathering.

627
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: They are gathered, and I think they're yeah, well, more

628
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: updates in the future.

629
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: An evolving story.

630
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: Like I said, we're going to get to some important news.

631
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: And that was it. My crows are back in the backyard. No,

632
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court has announced they're going to rule on

633
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: Trump's immunity. They're going to do it very very slowly.

634
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: This is essentially the like playing along with his plan

635
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,719
Speaker 1: for you know, to delay everything until he's president and

636
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: then yeah, he can start punishing his enemies and throwing

637
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: all this shit out of out of court essentially.

638
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I mean, I think the whole time we're wondering,

639
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: we're like, well, every other lower court was out of

640
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: hand rejecting the argument that there was such thing as

641
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: god mode when you're president, and they're like, yeah, yeah,

642
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: you can actually be convicted of a crime. What are

643
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 2: you talking about here? But yeah, as it stands, the

644
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: Supreme Court is basically saying they will hear I think

645
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: April twenty second is when they will begin the proceedings

646
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: to hear the fucking case, when I think any normal

647
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: court would have just affirmed the lower court's decision be

648
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: like yeah what they say, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Why

649
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: why do I need? Why am I wasting my time?

650
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, we were always wondering, how will the Supreme

651
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: Court show itself to be completely biased and illegitimate and

652
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: the laughing stock? And yeah, we're starting to see it

653
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: by like slow rolling this thing because this will just

654
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: this will drag everything on to the point that the

655
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: Jack Smith trial probably wouldn't happen in time at all,

656
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: or at all.

657
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he had already asked the Supreme Court to

658
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: weigh in on this issue back in December, because he

659
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: knew that this was a possibility, and trump st layers objected,

660
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: It's I don't know, I'm no legal expert. This all

661
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: just seems very fucking dumb. It's very dark. That's my

662
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: legal read on the situation.

663
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thanks for that. Yeah, all very fucking VFD.

664
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: We already know that's my that's the conclusion we've come to.

665
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, like this is the thing also

666
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: because even if they do, you know, come to a

667
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: decision and they say, you know what, actually, no, you

668
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: do not have immunity. We all know about how the

669
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: DJ if remember in twenty sixteen, they'll be like, we

670
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: don't like to do anything that could be seen as

671
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: political sixty days out from election, right, but Hillary Clinton,

672
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 2: we can make a special case for, like they did

673
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 2: with that FBI thing that happened within sixty days of

674
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: the election. So it's really yeah, I guess the only

675
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: terrible silver lining here is that if the Supreme Court

676
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 2: were to affirm, like what Trump's argument is that there

677
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 2: is such thing as the star from Super Mario Brothers

678
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: that makes you immune from criminal prosecution, then I guess

679
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: Joe Biden is free to do literally whatever the fuck

680
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 2: he wants to also hold on to power. But this

681
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: is just like the most grim timeline either way you

682
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 2: look at it.

683
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, hold on to power for two more months of

684
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 6: his life?

685
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah right, however long however, Yeah, hold on to it, hold.

686
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: On to it. Maybe it's like an immortality thing. Maybe

687
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: it's like a one up thing in addition to the

688
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: in addition to the stuff.

689
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, the mushroom makes him younger.

690
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't feel like this is going to that

691
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: they're going to rule for Trump on this, right, Like

692
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: all of the lower courts that have looked at this

693
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: have said that, no, this is like open and shut.

694
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: Why are we even looking at this? Of course, president

695
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you can do whatever you want. But I

696
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: think it from the way the Supreme Court seems to

697
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: like to do things where they're like, ah, we do

698
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: a horrifying thing and then but hey, we're still over here,

699
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: feels like this will give them a chance to at

700
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: least have the appearance that they're ruling against Trump. On

701
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: something while also essentially running interference for him to let

702
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: him by time until he has a chance to be

703
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: a president.

704
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 2: Right, in which case, yeah, he'll just tell the DJ

705
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 2: to drop all the charges. Yeah, and so it has

706
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: everybody loses, I guess.

707
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: In this instance, right, Yeah, it feels like that.

708
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 2: Like I said, November, take your time, take your time,

709
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 2: take your time, please take all Right.

710
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: Did you guys catch the Willy Wonka experience in Glasgow?

711
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: You see it, Katie?

712
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so.

713
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 1: You're terminally unhealthily online? Yeah?

714
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 5: Right, I only saw a smidge not too much.

715
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but but you're familiar with the terrible bait and

716
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 2: switch that they pulled on.

717
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 6: People, being like I would have gotten tricked too.

718
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 2: Really off from the AI pictures you think.

719
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would think like, oh, you cannot lie this much.

720
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 6: I can see you could lie a little bit, you

721
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 6: put a little extra on it, but you can't lie

722
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 6: this right right, right.

723
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: Right right right. The way they did to that, it

724
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: was a ninety second total time or not time limit,

725
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: but that's how long it took for people to get through.

726
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 2: The whole thing was about ninety seconds. And then they

727
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: were handing out one jelly bean per kid because they

728
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: ran out. Yeah it got.

729
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: Grim but yeah, magical jelly beans rights.

730
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah because I called them that,

731
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: that's they're magical. Then just trust me on this. Now

732
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 2: give me my forty five dollars. But yeah. The one

733
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: thing that's clear after like looking at the whole Willy

734
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: Wonka thing here is like the AI. This AI like

735
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 2: that based on the images and everything, it's enabling the

736
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 2: worst thoughts of morally unscrupulous people. Like the use of

737
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 2: AI to make marketing materials was clearly like a huge

738
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 2: help in getting people into the door. But now we're

739
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: hearing that the actors that were hired to be part

740
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 2: of this quote unquote experience were also given scripts that

741
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 2: were also AI generated nonsense. Allegedly, no one has come

742
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: no one has confirmed or denied that AI was used

743
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 2: chat gpt I Apparently they said they took it like

744
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 2: it's hard for us to know because it's so poorly written.

745
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: That yeah, it could be aim or it could just

746
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,479
Speaker 2: be so poorly written. There was like there's some there's

747
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 2: just a lot of new things we're learning about. There

748
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: was some villain character that made kids cry during this

749
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: thing called the Unknown, and it was just a person

750
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: in like a silver spray painted mask.

751
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: I mean it is, Yeah, it is terrifying. It's grim,

752
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 1: like soul chilling.

753
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

754
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: Do you have the clip in here where like somebody's

755
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: like what is this now? And then this fucker comes

756
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: out from behind a mirror and yeah, and you hear

757
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: the kids immediately.

758
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 2: Go no, no, no. It's the sound of like, yeah,

759
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: the sound of upset kids. That definitely makes it a

760
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: little bit hard to like be like oh no, and

761
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 2: like the parents. It's also in those videos you see

762
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: the parents trying to be like this is okay. Yeah,

763
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: on the inside they're like, I'm gonna fuck somebody up

764
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 2: for charging me this amount of money.

765
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 6: The police they did, what is the police fustae do

766
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 6: some of the Yeah, I don't know what were they

767
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 6: going to do.

768
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: I mean I think just be like, yeah, I don't

769
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: know you want us to do like that. It's a scam.

770
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess we could tell you that. But

771
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 2: as it stands, the company that put it on says

772
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: they are giving people refunds. We still don't know the

773
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 2: state of that. We do know that the actors have

774
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 2: not been paid. Yeah, so that may be a bit

775
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: of foreshadowing the actor. The quote from the actor on

776
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,479
Speaker 2: the Unknown is the bit that got me. Was where

777
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: I had to say, there is a man. We don't

778
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: know his name, we know him as the Unknown. This

779
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 2: Unknown is an evil chocolate maker who lives in the walls.

780
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, who lives in the walls is like so specific

781
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: and creepy and a thing that like your child imagination

782
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: like makes up already and so you know, like, yeah,

783
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 1: there's somebody who lives in your walls.

784
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: Oh here, here, here your house.

785
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 1: Settle a little bit or something you're like, oh no.

786
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 2: This is the clip of the just poor guy pretending

787
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 2: to be I think Willie McNichol or something. Obviously for

788
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 2: Christ for trademark, wea reasons they could not say wrong.

789
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 2: And he is out here telling this is the part

790
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 2: where he tells kids about the Unknown. Look at this.

791
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 8: Also, was that like a Diana rosswig give me rais yeah,

792
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 8: or maybe.

793
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 5: The same thing, like yeah, I mean that's where my

794
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 5: mind goes all the time. I assume that racist underpinnings

795
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 5: to things that people under the stairs too, you know,

796
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 5: like in the walls.

797
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, just coming coming out from a target mirror like a.

798
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 6: You know this might be someone who is actually against

799
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 6: a trying to tell anybody to.

800
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a little bit right.

801
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: I'm sure she saw the picture of the woman playing

802
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 2: the umpa lumpa, because I think that sort of kind

803
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 2: of encapsulated the entire experience this poor lady. She said,

804
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: when she got there, nothing resembled a legitimate production of

805
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: any kind. The costumes she thinks were used. Other people

806
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 2: were like they were like cheap, sexy oopa luompa costumes,

807
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 2: and they were like, I'm glad I brought tights and

808
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 2: a T shirt. Otherwise, like my business would have been

809
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 2: hanging all the way out while I'm trying to do

810
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 2: like a children's performance. And again when she got the

811
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: script too, she's like, some of this stuff doesn't make sense.

812
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: The organizer said, I just just improvise, Just improvise. And

813
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 2: that's the part that makes me feel partially that this

814
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: was definitely AI generated, Like otherwise, wouldn't you want the

815
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 2: actors you were, I guess allegedly going to pay to

816
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: sort of like execute your creative vision, you know what

817
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 2: I mean, rather than just be like fuck you just

818
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 2: say whatever fuck you want.

819
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 6: I don't know they had a captive audience.

820
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, so here's the thing. We do have a little

821
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: a few excerpts from the actually downloaded the whole script.

822
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 2: Someone uploaded it to the internet that all the actors got,

823
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 2: and I'm also like, so I'm looking at this. There's

824
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 2: a lot of interesting stuff. So there's one one thing

825
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: is clear when you look at it. For me, it

826
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 2: feels very computer generated and those details will be kind

827
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: of self apparent when we read it. But also, this

828
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: production would have won a fucking Tony Award for how

829
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: out like, how out there. Some of these special effects

830
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: were supposed to be as sort of described in the script.

831
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: This is from a part It says, this is from

832
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 2: a scene where they go into this enchanted force. It says, parenthetical, Jack,

833
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: do you want to read wonky Doodle? And I'll be

834
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 2: Willie McDuff aha. So this is a parenthetical. Audience members

835
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: engaged with the interactive flowers, offering compliments to which the

836
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 2: flowers respond with pre recorded whimsical fank youse.

837
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: Oh, there are flowers that speak in this production. Like,

838
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: just keeping in mind that when you got there, it

839
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: looked like just the grimmest room where like multiple crimes

840
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: have taken place like in this person's vision, it is

841
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: a place where there are flowers that are kind of

842
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: challenging the technology, like the bounds of technology. And then

843
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: we cut to me Wonky Doodle one saying to a guest, oh,

844
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: and if you see a butterfly, whisper your sweetest dream

845
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: to it. There are official secret keepers and dream carriers

846
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: of the garden. And then Williamcy says in parenthetical gathering

847
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: everyone's attention. Now I must ask, has anyone seen the

848
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: elusive bubble bloom. It's a rare flower that blooms just

849
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 1: once every blue moon and fills the air with shimmering bubbles.

850
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 1: The stage crew discreetly activates bubble machines, filling the area

851
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: with bubbles, causing excitement and wonder among the audience.

852
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 2: That's why I think it's ai. When you start saying

853
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 2: how people are going to react to it, that is

854
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: not That's not I think this is.

855
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: I think this is just somebody who is yeah and

856
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: has you know, they're just they they expect this to

857
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: go exactly how they have it in their little that

858
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: they are overdosed on whimsy and just believe that they

859
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: can create magic just by hoping that it happens. Sorry,

860
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 1: wanky doodle too, not to be confused with my previous

861
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 1: character or or pretending to catch bubbles quick eat bubble

862
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: holds a whisper of enchantment. Catch one and make a wish.

863
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 2: Willie McDuff, as the bubble catching frenzy continues, Remember in

864
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: the Garden of Enchantment, every moment is a chance of magic.

865
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 2: Every corner hides a story, and every bubble catches a

866
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: bubble holds a dream parenthetical. He opens his hand and

867
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: the bubble gently pops, releasing a small twinkling light that

868
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,720
Speaker 2: ascends into the rafters, leaving the audience in awe. There's

869
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: no way you could do this shit at all. Do

870
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: that on Pandora at Disney.

871
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: World, Like, that's how the fuck did you think that

872
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 1: was going to happen? Yeah?

873
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 6: YEAHS has never oversold their ability.

874
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: I know, that's fag you make it. This feels like

875
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: pretty identifiable, but like the wishful thinking in the script

876
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: is just really like it just gives you a head

877
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 1: Like the difference between what they had in mind and

878
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: the grim vibe of the actual room like gives me

879
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: a head rush. It's like so just unbelievably different.

880
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but I think the other thing, it's like

881
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 2: it this to your point, Katie, I think in a

882
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 2: way it really makes clear what like how people are

883
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 2: going to use AI, like, especially for people in decision

884
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 2: making positions, because I feel like they were probably people

885
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 2: who put this on probably so wowed and razzled, like yo,

886
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: I just said this thing, and it.

887
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 9: Came up with all these wild ideas like a light,

888
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 9: a light will go to the rafters, out the bubble,

889
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 9: like we don't need people no more like and I

890
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 9: can see how someone in the C suite who who

891
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 9: has no experience writing or doing anything creative would see.

892
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 2: That and be like, yo, this is it. This is it?

893
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 2: Like you know, it's a rap. I'm paying people to

894
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 2: have actual ideas. So again, like our guests on Tuesday's

895
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: episode said, resist the urge to be impressed by AI folks, right,

896
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, to your point, Jack Or I think I

897
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: think kab were also is saying like, you know, we

898
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 2: we we will oversell ourselves. You know, we'll fake it

899
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 2: till we make it. But it also feels like that

900
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 2: is kind of like the refrain that you hear from

901
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 2: scammers when they get caught, they'll do some version of

902
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 2: like it's just so, I'm just so disappointed and what

903
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: came out. You know, I really wanted it to be

904
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: something special for the kids, and instead they got a

905
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: big old con job. And I feel bad about that

906
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 2: because this guy who put it on he also apparently

907
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: got in trouble in twenty twenty one for having a

908
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 2: Santa's Grotto event. I don't know why Santa needs a.

909
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 5: Grotto, like ceial scammering, right, yeah, grotto. Isn't that more

910
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 5: associated with like a crumpet or something like that.

911
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like a cave enclosure type thing. I just

912
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 2: think of like the Sordid Grotto from the Playboy Mansion,

913
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 2: which is like a hidden pool. But like, apparently he

914
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: canceled this event once people donated gifts and stuff and money,

915
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: like just canceled it. The Santa Wan Oh yeah, the

916
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 2: Santa guy from a House of Illuminati Productions. Oh is

917
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 2: the name of his company.

918
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: There was no way to tell that this was in

919
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: any way off is house spelled h A U S No.

920
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: No house not going full of scammer with that one.

921
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 6: No, But with scamming, you have to have a code

922
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 6: of ethics, Like, you can't be out here scamming little

923
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 6: kids like this. If you're gonna scam, you need to

924
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 6: scan the United States government scam, Walmart scam, multinational corporations.

925
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 6: Why are you scamming families that use their heart earned

926
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 6: money to give their kids a little experience.

927
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 5: Because money is money. These people are not thinking with logic.

928
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, that's why they'll always get caught up. Yeah,

929
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 6: you get a PPP loan. I know this was in

930
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 6: the United States, but exactly, scam a PPP loan.

931
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 5: You know what this sounds like to me? Right, I mean,

932
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 5: courses are really hot right now. You can sell an

933
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 5: online course about scamming me.

934
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're right, thank you.

935
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 2: H You're like, here's set up. You're going to set

936
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 2: up a defense contractor company to work with the Pentagon,

937
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,240
Speaker 2: and trust me, they will just turn the money hose

938
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 2: on for anybody.

939
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 6: Exactly.

940
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: I mean this sort of like Firefest esque pop culture

941
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 1: fandom based scam definitely pre dates AI. I'm not sure

942
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: that the like the definitely the artwork that they sent

943
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: out had something to do with AI.

944
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying more people are going to try it

945
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 2: because definitely, Yeah, it's easier for.

946
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: Them to like just just shoot copy out. But like

947
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: back in twenty nineteen, people paid fifty dollars for a

948
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: Harry Potter themed event and the wind making station was

949
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: at table with scattered chopsticks and glitter, and the magical

950
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: cocktail was gin and tonics and rum and cokes. This

951
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: the wind making station has a sign that is just

952
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: a whiteboard with wand Making Station written on like a

953
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: sharp edition of the stars.

954
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, they put some razzle dazzle on you.

955
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 2: You know how quickly those stars were drawn. You can

956
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 2: you can tell by the shape of the stars. Someone

957
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 2: just went fuck it. Let me just shush this up.

958
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: And they really have like Chinese restaurant like to go

959
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: chopsticks like still in the wrapper saying wand Making station.

960
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: This one with photus candles, like the little tiny candles.

961
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 5: To be fair true to material though it is wood.

962
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 6: So it's your mom is doing it for your friends,

963
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 6: you know, like we're gonna have a little Harry Potter

964
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 6: moment and your mom does that, It's like, okay, your mom,

965
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 6: she really cared about y'all.

966
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 2: But pay them for that fifty bucks, no, no, no.

967
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: But the same deal as this one that one just

968
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: came back to one person who claimed I'm not a scammer.

969
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: I just didn't nail all details, which implies like I

970
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: knowed some of the details, but give me some. Give

971
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: me here. Did you see the stars on the White Boy?

972
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: Can we go?

973
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 2: Did you not hear my lawyer? Did you not hear

974
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:17,720
Speaker 2: my lawyer? The chopsticks are made of wood? Harry Potter?

975
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 2: So the rest of my case.

976
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: No further questions for the questions. All right, let's take

977
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: a quick break and we'll come back and talk about

978
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: some good a good side of technology. We'll be right back,

979
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: and we're back. We are back, and we are, of

980
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: course inundated with stories about people wearing vision pro while

981
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 1: driving a car or operating a forklift loaded with nitroglycerin.

982
00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: But it's worth noting that virtual reality can be a

983
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: less stupid thing, because there's a recent Stanford study that

984
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: showed the VR had a big impact in nursing homes,

985
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: where singers chose from virtual experiences ranging from riding in

986
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: a tank to which you know, my five year old

987
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 1: would absolutely true. What does that mean, like recapture glory

988
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: days from like the war? Yeah, riding in a tank

989
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: and then doing what Yeah, but yeah, just writing I

990
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 1: don't want to know. Yeah, playing with puppies and kittens,

991
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: to visiting countries like Paris or Egypt countries, countries like Paris.

992
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: That might be our bad, that might be a mistaken

993
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: a copy.

994
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah.

995
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 1: But the study found that sixty percent of the singers

996
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: felt less isolated socially thanks to VR. Seventy five percent

997
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: of caregivers said residents moods improved after using the VR.

998
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: And see that. Yeah, I mean, like, in talking about

999
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: AI and a lot of the technology that it's emerging

1000
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: right now, we've kind of hit on this general theme

1001
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: that when it's something that you're playing with, it can

1002
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: be fun and like if that's all you're looking for,

1003
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: is like a fun thing to play with, And like

1004
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 1: that seems to be where the technology has promised. When

1005
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: it's being used to like systemically like take people's jobs

1006
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: or like replace human beings, it doesn't work very well

1007
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: or make medical decisions, make medical decisions.

1008
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it does remind me of like I remember

1009
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 2: there are always these videos that would go viral like

1010
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 2: ten years ago, of like a person in like a

1011
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 2: nursing home, and like they would hear the music from

1012
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 2: their childhood and like you would just see their eyes

1013
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 2: light up and stuff, and like they were talking and

1014
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 2: like they had a lot to do. And it's called

1015
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 2: reminiscence therapy. Yeah, so it's interesting to see something like

1016
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 2: that got kind of taken to the next level where

1017
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: it's like, no, put these put these go out goggles on,

1018
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 2: and like, guess where we are. We're back in that tank, baby,

1019
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 2: back in that tank where you get first sell in love,

1020
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 2: right right right? But yeah, I mean I think it

1021
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 2: is one of those things where it's like a bit

1022
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 2: of a you know, it's like when you start talking

1023
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 2: about nursing homes, like you also there's also like huge

1024
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 2: issues with nursing homes, even as we've talked about on

1025
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: this show, like with private equity coming in and completely

1026
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 2: like diluting the care that is available to people and

1027
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 2: how it's like subpar and like leaves people in terrible situations. Yeah,

1028
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 2: so it's like, can we get the people paid more

1029
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 2: to like because I feel like the lazy thing, like, man,

1030
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 2: you know, how we're going to get things better? Just

1031
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: give these people VR goggles.

1032
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: They don't need real.

1033
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 6: Life feel giving.

1034
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 5: It feels like an easier way to neglect. It's like

1035
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 5: a direct path to more neglect. I feel like could interaction.

1036
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 6: Yeah. I also saw one lady saying like she wanted

1037
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 6: to go back to the nineteen sixties. I was like, why,

1038
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 6: white lady, why do you want to go back to

1039
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 6: the nineteen.

1040
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, but about that that does happen with

1041
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 5: but when they get older, like and we want to go.

1042
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 6: Back to them segregate lunch counter. No, I'm not allowing it.

1043
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 5: I believe that.

1044
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: I believe.

1045
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 5: I believe that, But too, I do think it could

1046
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 5: be helpful, like because a lot of the times they

1047
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 5: do go back, like at the end of their lives,

1048
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 5: back to situations and it's kind of hard to deal

1049
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 5: with as a person who's a caretaker or like who's

1050
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 5: coming to visit people and they're having those those visions. Basicly, basically,

1051
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 5: it's like what do I say, I'm not there with them.

1052
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,919
Speaker 5: So I think like having that as a supplemental aid

1053
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 5: when you are actually spending time with them, having those experiences.

1054
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: Could be pretty supplemental is the key word, as opposed

1055
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: to replacing way whole plan.

1056
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, care I think.

1057
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 1: Like we we did an interview with somebody who's an

1058
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: expert on like all the ways that private equity has

1059
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 1: just like come through and destroyed a number of different

1060
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: American industries and companies. And this was I think like

1061
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: the main or like one of the three industries that

1062
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: the book like really focused on. It was just like

1063
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: that they came through. They took over a bunch of

1064
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: these companies that ran nursing homes and slashed budgets to

1065
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: inoperable levels. And then you know, when those nursing homes

1066
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: go out of business, the private equity companies have already

1067
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: extracted fees and end up doing okay because you know,

1068
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:31,240
Speaker 1: they have these massive contracts and these like byzantine arrangements

1069
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: where they like secretly own the company without like outwardly,

1070
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 1: without anybody like really even knowing their name. And so yeah,

1071
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: I like, on the one hand, nursing, the you know,

1072
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: elderly care industry has a really bad name, but I

1073
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: think it's because we've just come through this period.

1074
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 2: Where private equity ravaged it.

1075
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I'm hoping that there is a possible

1076
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 1: future where you know, that gets corrected and these are supplemental,

1077
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: like you said, Eves, instead of just a thing that

1078
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: they're like, all right, we can fire five nurses and

1079
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 1: just because we because we bought a VR headset.

1080
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like Katie's idea, though, maybe if that person's like,

1081
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 2: I want to go back to reconstruction America. Oh yeah,

1082
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 2: let me load up a memory for you real quick.

1083
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 2: And I was just completely fuck with them. It's like

1084
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 2: black people are running everything, and.

1085
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: The image of the unknown the lives.

1086
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 5: Now for sure.

1087
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 6: I think with all this technology is it's like, no

1088
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 6: one really needs this, but we do need like universal

1089
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 6: health care, right, But I.

1090
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 5: Think we're in that We're in that place with a

1091
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 5: lot of technology today. It's like we're moving beyond the

1092
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 5: point of necessity and then to the point of just

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00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 5: we're just figuring out what to do with But we

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Speaker 5: don't have.

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Speaker 6: The necessities at all.

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Speaker 5: No, we don't have their las.

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Speaker 2: Yeah move, but they have you feeling like what you

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Speaker 2: need is an Apple Vision process.

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Speaker 1: To get out.

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Speaker 2: What I need is my insurance company to cover my meds.

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Speaker 5: Is affordable housing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, while we wait on those, wouldn't it be

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Speaker 1: nice to take a vacation to the country of Paris,

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Speaker 1: the Great nation of Hobby? All right, Well, Katie Eve's

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Speaker 1: truly such a pleasure having you both on the daily.

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Speaker 1: He's like, guys, where can people find you? Follow you

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Speaker 1: all that good stuff?

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Speaker 5: You can follow us on Instagram at on Theme Show.

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Speaker 5: You can also hit us up via email at hello

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Speaker 5: at on Theme dot Show. You can also find all

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Speaker 5: the show notes at on Theme dot Show and go

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Speaker 5: listen to the podcast on Things about Black Storytelling. It's

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00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 5: really awesome. You'll probably find stuff if you're interested in blackness,

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00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 5: if you're interested in storytelling and just storytelling in general,

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Speaker 5: you'll probably find something you love there. Personally, I'm on

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Speaker 5: Instagram at not apologizing and did I get it all?

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Speaker 1: Kiddie? Got it? Can you anywhere on social media?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: Personally all right?

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Speaker 2: Ghost all right, there you go. That's why you're so happy.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, and is there a work of media

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Speaker 1: that you guys have been enjoying.

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Speaker 5: I have been going back and watching the old UFCS lately,

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Speaker 5: like the first first seven or something like that, like

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Speaker 5: starting from the beginning. This was the I'm not really

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Speaker 5: a sports watcher at all. Is something that my husband

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Speaker 5: got me into over the years, but like it's been

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Speaker 5: very entertaining because it's just like it's that one it

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Speaker 5: just feels very primitive all of the old like seeing

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Speaker 5: that that segment of time and period in media when

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00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 5: things were so irreverent didn't make any sense. A lot

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Speaker 5: of things were stupid, honestly, a lot of the things

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Speaker 5: that people said had made no sense. And also like

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Speaker 5: going and looking into some of the people's history who

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Speaker 5: fought for the UFC, and it's very problematic in those

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Speaker 5: early years, and the commentators got I mean, yeah, it's

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Speaker 5: it's been like an escapism mode for me and something

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Speaker 5: that's like very far away from all of the other

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Speaker 5: serious historical philosophical things that I'm focused.

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Speaker 1: On a lot of the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those those early like fights are so wild to

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Speaker 2: watch because you're like, I think a truck driver is

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00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 2: fighting a karate man.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Literally, their theme they used to have things back

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Speaker 5: in the day, And one of the themes I just

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Speaker 5: watched was David versus Goliath, where they purposely put people

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Speaker 5: together who were in absolutely different It would be like

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Speaker 5: a six hundred pound person and a two hundred and

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Speaker 5: fifty pound person, and it was just it was there

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Speaker 5: are some I can't go on forever about this because

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00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 5: there are so many things about the marketing and the

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00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 5: ways that they set up the shows that you could

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00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 5: really tell they were trying to find their footing and

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Speaker 5: they had no fucking clue. And one thing I will

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Speaker 5: say that it teaches me is that like if if

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Speaker 5: those people, if those white men could like be like

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Speaker 5: I think I want to do this thing. We're different disciplines,

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00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 5: fight each other and I don't know what I'm doing,

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Speaker 5: but we're gonna put it on television and it really

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Speaker 5: makes no sense and I feel like I can do

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Speaker 5: anything like it's It's been very motivational for me.

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Speaker 1: I used to rent those at Blockbuster, like that was

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Speaker 1: those early UFC specials were like a real rent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because that I remember that was the only

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Speaker 2: way to watch them. Really yeah. I saw a bootleg

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Speaker 2: one and I was like, what the fuck guy, how come?

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Speaker 5: I'm like, how come the other.

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Speaker 2: Guys weren't like a gey like a uniform, And I'm like,

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Speaker 2: and this guy his name is Tank Abbott.

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Speaker 1: This is all very Yeah, it's hilarious.

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Speaker 5: Highly recommend.

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Speaker 2: Honestly I was not expecting that, and recommend watch the early.

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Speaker 5: You know, get you get the discipline and you get

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Speaker 5: the like people who actually know how to fight in

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Speaker 5: may these days when you watch it, and also you

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Speaker 5: get way more diversity, like watching women, watching people who

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Speaker 5: like watching black people. You know, there are a lot

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Speaker 5: of things that have changed over time, like and me

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Speaker 5: having started watching it later and going back and seeing

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Speaker 5: how they did it before. It's been it's been enviightening

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Speaker 5: to say, yeah, what about you, Katie.

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Speaker 6: I've been reading this collection of short stories called Neighbors

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Speaker 6: and Other Stories by Diane Oliver, and it was published

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Speaker 6: recently and posthumously. She died in nineteen sixty six at

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Speaker 6: the age of twenty two while she was on a motorcycle,

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Speaker 6: and a lot of her work had been pretty much

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Speaker 6: forgotten until like twenty twenty one, I believe when someone

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Speaker 6: just found her one of her short stories in an

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Speaker 6: anthology and wrote about her, and that led to her

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Speaker 6: being republished. So I always find it like super interesting

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Speaker 6: one writers are published postub like would they have liked

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Speaker 6: these stories together? How do they feel about it? She

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Speaker 6: was twenty two, so she didn't have any kids or anything.

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Speaker 6: So it's her sister and nieces who she never met

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Speaker 6: doing her estate stuff. But it's about it's a collection

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Speaker 6: of stories about Jim Crow era people who are integrating

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Speaker 6: certain situations, whether at school or lunch counters. But it's

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Speaker 6: kind of showing the side of it's not always a

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Speaker 6: positive thing to be a part of history. Like if

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Speaker 6: you were Ruby Bridges, what is that actual told on

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Speaker 6: you as a little kid?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 6: And not just like oh I'm a part of history,

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Speaker 6: I'm changing things for the better, but like as a person,

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Speaker 6: how does it feel to be in such these like

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Speaker 6: tumultuous times. So it's a really interesting thing. And like

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Speaker 6: I said, she died in nineteen sixty six, so she

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Speaker 6: was writing it as contemporary stories and not like historical fiction,

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Speaker 6: right right, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's an amazing recommendation. Which which UFC is

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Speaker 1: your favorite thing?

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Speaker 6: Thing?

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Speaker 1: Did any of the Davids win, by the way, I'm

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Speaker 1: always curious about.

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Speaker 5: Honestly, that's a good question. I feel like the Goliaths

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Speaker 5: went most of the time.

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Speaker 1: That Goliaths the whole time.

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Speaker 5: I gotta go, look, I'm not mad at the second watch.

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Speaker 5: I'll go back and watch that.

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Speaker 2: Get stats down.

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Speaker 5: Also, the stats that they used to just they made

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Speaker 5: no sense. One was like thinker. I was like, what

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Speaker 5: does that have to do with what is him being

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Speaker 5: a thinker? Have to do with anything but this one

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Speaker 5: we have versus a child.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, shack one damn.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, the weight didn't work for them all the time.

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Speaker 1: Right, Miles, where can people find you? Is their working

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Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, find me at Miles of Gray on all the

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Speaker 2: social platforms. You can find us Miles and Jack on

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Speaker 2: our basketball podcast Miles and Jack cot math Lucy's uh.

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Speaker 2: You can also find me on my ninety dance podcast

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Speaker 2: for twenty Day Fiance and Let's see tweet I like

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Speaker 2: it's from Ellie Cremandal at Ellie Creamandal tweeted so weird

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Speaker 2: when you meet a girl with the same name as

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Speaker 2: your sister because they're like, Hi, I'm Jenna and you're like, no.

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Speaker 1: You are not.

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Speaker 2: I am sorry, but you are not. Yeah, that's happen

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Speaker 2: with people say they.

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Speaker 1: Have my mom's name. I'm like, you're not. Don't come

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Speaker 1: to meet with this. That's not you. That's my mom's name. Incorrect.

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Speaker 1: I've been enjoying the clip of Richard Lewis when he

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Speaker 1: was sixteen on a candid camera. Just a a lot

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Speaker 1: of good Richard Lewis clips a right p to him.

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Speaker 1: If you can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're

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Speaker 1: at v Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook

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01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: fanpage on a website, Daily zeikeist dot com where we

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Speaker 1: post our episodes and our foot notes where we link

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Speaker 1: off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. Well,

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Speaker 1: it is a song that we think you might enjoy, Miles,

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Speaker 1: is there a song that you think people might enjoy?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kate Bollinger is the vocalist from Virginia and like,

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Speaker 2: just again these artists who kind of go with that

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01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 2: throwback style when like you listen to your like, was

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Speaker 2: this recording in the seventies or is this now one

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01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 2: of those kind of contemporary retro artists. This track is

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Speaker 2: called untitled, and yeah, like it's just a just a

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Speaker 2: really nice you know, take this track into your weekend relax,

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Speaker 2: just you know, just melt away into a world of

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Speaker 2: pure imagination. As they say at.

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Speaker 1: Willie McNichols chocolate wankery or whatever, it's cocolate fingery, all right.

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Speaker 1: We will link off to that in the footnotes the

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Speaker 1: Daily These guys the production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts

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Speaker 1: from my heart Radio, visits the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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Speaker 1: or wherever fine podcasts are given away for free.

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Speaker 2: That is going to do it for us this week.

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Speaker 1: We're back over the weekend with a digest of from

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Speaker 1: the best moments from this week, and then back on

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Speaker 1: Monday morning to tell you what trended over the weekend

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Speaker 1: and we will talk to y'all. Then buy five