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Speaker 1: As a guide an hunter, I've spent thousands of days

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Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard

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Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics they'll get you closer

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Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren.

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Speaker 1: This is cutting the Distance. Welcome to pack Week on

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Speaker 1: the podcast. Everyone. Really, one of the integral pieces of

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Speaker 1: gear to any Western or mountain hunt is a pack.

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Speaker 1: It's with you nearly every step of the way, whether

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Speaker 1: you're carrying gear in or packing out your meat. It's

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Speaker 1: the one kind of piece of gear that tries to

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Speaker 1: make something inherently uncomfortable just more comfortable. Throughout the year,

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Speaker 1: I probably have a pack on more days than not.

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Speaker 1: I actually just feel strange if I'm walking around in

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Speaker 1: the woods without a pack on, and having spent so

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Speaker 1: much time in various packs, I feel like there's a

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Speaker 1: lot to learn and know when it comes to not

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Speaker 1: only picking a pack, but utilizing a pack. This week,

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Speaker 1: I want to break down packs, the different types and

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Speaker 1: how to properly use them. I'll discuss everything from sizing

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Speaker 1: and features to the optimal ways to load whatever style

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Speaker 1: of pack you choose think of. This is a deep

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Speaker 1: dive on all things pack related, from the pack into

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Speaker 1: the pack out. But first I want to share a

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Speaker 1: story of an elk hunt and a pack out and

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Speaker 1: a case of FPS. This hunt takes place in western

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Speaker 1: Montana and it was actually one that was filmed for

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Speaker 1: the Meat Eater TV show quite a few years ago.

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Speaker 1: I think most of people to listen to the podcasts

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Speaker 1: is in the Meat Eater network. So maybe you've seen

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Speaker 1: the episode, maybe you haven't, You could always go watch it.

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Speaker 1: But I think the more fun story isn't necessarily the

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Speaker 1: part that people really don't get to see. On this

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Speaker 1: particular hunt, Steve and I both had elk tags. I've

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Speaker 1: been guiding the whole season, packed out many bowls, seen

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Speaker 1: many bowls get shot, and now is pretty much the

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Speaker 1: last week of the season. We had some I was

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Speaker 1: we're kind of actually hoping for It was one of

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Speaker 1: it was. It started to get bad but then kind

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Speaker 1: of cleared up, so we're kind of hoping for more migration.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to hunt some areas that I'd hunted in

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Speaker 1: the past where we got into some good bulls, and

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Speaker 1: so the first day was kind of leading into that

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Speaker 1: bad weather. But um, we ended up going into the

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Speaker 1: We get down in there. We're watching, you know, we

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Speaker 1: I've actually shot and I'll like in this dang near

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Speaker 1: these elk were. So it's like, all right, cool. I was.

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Speaker 1: I was looking for a particular bowl, but he wasn't

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Speaker 1: friend Mike likes to say, increase your success by lowering

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Speaker 1: your standards. As the season progresses. I start with really

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Speaker 1: wide expectations and as it gets down to that last day,

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Speaker 1: Um there's like two ridges in between, and they disappeared

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Speaker 1: Like fell I've never seen this happen, and broke one

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Speaker 1: Packed out plenty of elk. Actually, the year before from

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Speaker 1: What I did was front shoulders, all the loose meat

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Speaker 1: Everything's just like slopping around. I had a serious case

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Speaker 1: it is just I feel like I'm falling over what

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Speaker 1: I was falling over everything slopping around. But it's like

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Speaker 1: and day difference, Like I can't even describe that. I

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Speaker 1: I've walked out of here and I'm thinking, you know

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Speaker 1: I just haven't really. I've always had my packs like

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Speaker 1: the hill. But everything was still there, everything was in

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Speaker 1: the pack. It was just adjusted right and felt completely different.

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Speaker 1: And later on that Stone Glacier pack became one of

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Speaker 1: I really think the moral to the pack story is

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Speaker 1: even the best packs used wrong feel wrong. Like packs

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Speaker 1: can be uncomfortable and make it feel like there's so

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Speaker 1: matter of how you use the pack, use it correctly,

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Speaker 1: That floppy pack syndromes real and I see it happen

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Speaker 1: so many times, like especially as a guide or even

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Speaker 1: just like hiking around, running into hunters in the field

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Speaker 1: a struggle for this guy. Like I ran into a

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Speaker 1: guy on a trail once probably had a quarter in

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Speaker 1: his pack. You know what, I wouldn't consider a lot

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Speaker 1: it's like his pack is not adjusted for him. His

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Speaker 1: working against this waste belt that's pressing against his legs,

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Speaker 1: like almost holding his legs together. It was like, hey,

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Speaker 1: let me help you out. Let me just adjust some

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Speaker 1: things here at justice pack. He puts it on, like

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Speaker 1: light bulb clicked on. Oh my gosh, this is so easy.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of pack problems, a lot of the strain,

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Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff that just sucks about packs

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Speaker 1: um is user error and can be easily fixed. But

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Speaker 1: before we go into some of that, let's start real

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Speaker 1: wide and let's just talk about packs in general and

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Speaker 1: the three major types of packs. So, the first type

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Speaker 1: It's like if you're if I was to build another garage,

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Speaker 1: times where you're carrying pounds you're like, God, this is

428
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,399
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty pounds, and then you put on

429
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,719
Speaker 1: a scale you're like that, Nope, not but I'll have

430
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 1: to I've got a picture of just like the last

431
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,919
Speaker 1: super heavy pack. It's like sometimes you'll just overload it

432
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 1: and then be hand carrying stuff and stuff strapped all over. Um.

433
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,159
Speaker 1: But if you're realistic about the amount of weight that

434
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,679
Speaker 1: you want to carry, I would say, like, if you

435
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 1: don't do this all the time, you don't have dead

436
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 1: brain cells. You don't need to kill yourself off doing it.

437
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 1: Pounds is pretty like standard, fairly easy, getting get out,

438
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 1: move quick, not really hurt and destroy your body. So

439
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 1: just something to think about. But the type of weights

440
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,199
Speaker 1: that you might be carrying or the type of packs.

441
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 1: You know, you want something that's super durable that can

442
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 1: hold that kind of weight for a prolonged period of time.

443
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 1: So so I think another thing to think about. It's

444
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 1: just like pack features. I really you gotta know what

445
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 1: kind of person you are. There's a lot of personal preference.

446
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 1: Are you a pocket person or are you just kind

447
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: of like you'd rather have it light and not necessarily

448
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: so much going on. I personally like fewer pockets. I

449
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 1: like to organize my pack internally, so I do use

450
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 1: like little I guess it's like parachute material bags, and

451
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 1: I just separate things that way. So I've got one

452
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 1: that's all processing stuff. It's got game bags, knife, knife, sharpener,

453
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: and then maybe a multi tool in my pocket of

454
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 1: my pants. Also, I like to pockets, so I like

455
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: a lid or something where I can put things that

456
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: I need to get too quick. Then I like the

457
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: main bag where I could put meat, all my gear, whatever, jacket,

458
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: extra things. And then the only other pockets I would

459
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: maybe like would be like something to hold a spotting

460
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 1: scope and somewhere to strap a tripod and a water

461
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: bottle to the outside, like ease of use, but not

462
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: necessarily like a bunch of pockets inside. Now there's other

463
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: Like my dad loves pockets. He loves to like open

464
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,199
Speaker 1: his pack and see seven hundred pockets in there, and

465
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 1: every pocket adds weight. But that's just like what he likes.

466
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm kind of trying to transition him into be a

467
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 1: less pocket guy, but I don't even He just likes

468
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: to lose stuff in his pack. But that's the kind

469
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: of guy he is. Now I'm not I'm not trying

470
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 1: to knock anybody that likes pockets, because hey, you know,

471
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 1: it's like the straight verse angled spotting scope type thing.

472
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: Everybody's got their own personal preference and different strokes for

473
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: different blokes, So whatever you like. But I like to

474
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: kind of keep the pack a little bit lighter, fewer pockets,

475
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: just enough, like where there's organization and I can get

476
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: too certain things quick, but not so many that it

477
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: gets distracting and I can't find things. Now, if we're

478
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,479
Speaker 1: talking about features of pack, this would be the only

479
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: must have feature that I think, like, if your pack

480
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: doesn't have this, it should. This is probably the most important.

481
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: And I've owned packs that don't have this feature and

482
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 1: immediately got rid of them once I realized they didn't fit.

483
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: The probably key feature is a torso adjustment. The key

484
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 1: to a comfortable pack, the key to carrying a lot

485
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: of weight, the key to day and day out it

486
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 1: working for you is the freaking thing ask that fits you.

487
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: It's like, imagine going on a hunt and you're a

488
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: size small even though most people are not, but and

489
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna wear a triple XL size pants and jacket.

490
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: It's gonna be very, very uncomfortable. But people get packed

491
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 1: and they just think like one size fits all, and

492
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: it's probably the thing that needs to be most custom

493
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: You'd be better off being a size small wearing triple

494
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 1: X pants and having a pack that fits then the

495
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: other way around. Um So, what I mean by a

496
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: torso adjustment, that's not actually the waist belt. We're just

497
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: talking about being able to move the distance from where

498
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 1: your waist belt is to where your shoulder straps are,

499
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: so it's on the back like on the body of

500
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: the pack itself, and those two things should be able

501
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 1: to move together or move away and be set in

502
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: a certain place. So we're talking about your torso height,

503
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: like from your the top of your hips, your tailbone

504
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: up to your shoulders. Everybody's torso's a little bit different,

505
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: and some people like me, I've got really really long

506
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: legs and a fairly short torso for my like compared

507
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: to everything else. I've got friends that are normal leg height,

508
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 1: long torso or everything's the same, very standard normal leg length,

509
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: normal torso length. But that pack needs to fit that

510
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 1: torso because the integrity of a pack, the reason that

511
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: a framed pack works is what it's doing is it's

512
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: actually putting that weight not on your shoulders but into

513
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: your hips, so your legs carry the weight. I mean,

514
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: your legs are designing to carry a lot more weight

515
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 1: an you think. I mean, think about power lifters in

516
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: a gym. You can only curl so much, you can

517
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: only pull down so much with your arms, but I

518
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: mean you can lift multiple times your body weight with

519
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: your legs. Is because they're just so strong. They're designed

520
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: for that. They're moving all the time. It's a it's

521
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 1: a muscle that even if you're fairly sedentary, as long

522
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: as you walk around, you're using it, you're flexing it,

523
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 1: you're getting it stronger um and on a hunt, you're

524
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: especially It's it's your mode of transportation. So you want

525
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: that weight to be in your legs. You want to

526
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: carry it with your legs. And that's the key to

527
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: getting your pack set up is being able to distribute

528
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 1: that weight. You want of that pack weight in your legs,

529
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 1: strongest part of your body. So we're gonna talk about

530
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: now how to fit the pack to you. And every

531
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: time you put a pack on, new pack whatever, you're

532
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: gonna first make those torso adjustments. So the top of

533
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: the shoulder strap and where that um waiste belt. That

534
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: waite belt should run through the center of your hip bones.

535
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: So if you kind of go from your belly buttons

536
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: straight out to your that's your hip bone. You feel

537
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: it like in there, you go, Okay, the pack should

538
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: be the center of that band should be on the

539
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: center of that hip bone. Um. And then I like that,

540
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: you know, the waist belt clip to be kind of

541
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: just below my belly button, but I want that weight

542
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 1: to be kind of centered over my hips. So when

543
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,479
Speaker 1: you kind of fit a pack, when you put it on,

544
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna work from the bottom up, so the waist

545
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: belt up. So the first thing you're gonna do is

546
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna get that waist the torso right that once

547
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: you set, that should be good forever, you know, unless

548
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, it just doesn't really change that much.

549
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: So you know, you'll put your waist belt on, you'll

550
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: sench that waist belt down, and that you want that

551
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: fairly tight because that's where all the weight it's gonna be.

552
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: I mean, you can almost when you put your pack on,

553
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: those straps like you get in there, you sench that

554
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: waist belt. You want to wear those pack, Like the

555
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: shoulder straps aren't necessarily even really on your shoulders at

556
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 1: this point, Like, yeah, okay, there's all the weight my

557
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: um hips. Now I'm gonna just kind of distribute it

558
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: take into my shoulders. So now we're going to move up,

559
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: so your your shoulder straps should be kind of fairly loose,

560
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: and put the shoulder straps on and now cinch those down.

561
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: You want them snug where it's like taking a little

562
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: bit of the weight, but also you're still feeling that

563
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: weight into the waist belt into your hips. And then

564
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: the next adjustment is going to be the load lifter,

565
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: So that's above the shoulder shraps. It's kind of like

566
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: that top one above the shoulder strap that goes to

567
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: the pack. And what that does is that pulls the

568
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 1: pack forward, so it's pulling it snugging it closer to

569
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: your body. Depending on the type of pack you have,

570
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: and we'll get a little more in depth here in

571
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: a second, but external frame pack you can actually leave

572
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: the load lifters a little further back on the internal

573
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: I like to kind of bring those load lifters a

574
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: little bit tighter. What I found is like once that

575
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: tops towards you. On an internal frame pack, it kind

576
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: of sucks the pack towards your body, which is the

577
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: best weight distribution for an internal frame, whereas on an

578
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: external frame, it kind of if that weight falls back slightly,

579
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: it actually pushes more weight into the hips and uh

580
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: kind of tends to be a little less floppy, a

581
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: little bit more weight distribution. But what you're doing with

582
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: that load lift is just kind of killing that flop.

583
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: You don't want things moving around. If your pack sliding around,

584
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: it's just working way too many muscles, wigh too fast

585
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: and actually going to burn you out a lot quicker.

586
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: So now let's get into loading your pack. So an

587
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: external frame is really good for just like if you

588
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: just want to haul a lot of weight. Um, it's

589
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: really good because what it does is it takes that

590
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: frame and it actually just drives that weight from that

591
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: pack right into your hips. But to work properly, an

592
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: external frame is better loaded slightly top heavy, so not

593
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: all the way up high where it's all the weights

594
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: above your head. But it tends to um work better

595
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: when there's like weight higher in the pack. So what

596
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: I see a lot of guys do is they got

597
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: an external frame, they throw all the quarters like meat

598
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,239
Speaker 1: side down on the bottom, and that's great, But what

599
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: it's doing is it's actually not pulling the pack slightly

600
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: away from your body and pushing it into your hips.

601
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: Is kind of actually just putting all the weight straight down,

602
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: so it's it's like all in your hips, but not

603
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: balanced correctly. Uh, what I do when I've got an

604
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: external frame and I'm carrying quite a bit of stuff,

605
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: I would put maybe some more light gear on the

606
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: bottom and then maybe one quarter down on that so

607
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: it's slightly above the bottom, not not crazy. And then

608
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: sometimes if I'm doing like two quarters let's say, dear

609
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: or whatever, I'll flip like the front quarters up or

610
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: one hind quarter up, like where it's the the bottom

611
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: part of the leg like the less meat side. It's

612
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: like the ham is high like alter natum, so one's down,

613
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: one's up. That kind of puts more weight up higher.

614
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's the opposite with an internal frame,

615
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: but with an internal frame, you gotta think that frames

616
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: in the back of the pack bag and then going

617
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: straight down to the pack belt. So the best way

618
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,479
Speaker 1: to distribute weight in internal frame is actually keeping it

619
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: like closer to your body. So I think of packing

620
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: an internal frame pack like if you were to lay

621
00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: the part that goes against your body on the ground,

622
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: packing it from the ground up. So you don't want

623
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: weight out on the internal frame. You want weight closer

624
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: to your body. So that's why pulling those um load

625
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: lifters like a little bit tighter on that will kind

626
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: of help center that weight close to your body before

627
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: you're packing out any meat or anything. When I pack everything,

628
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: I try to put the light stuff on the outside

629
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: of the pack and then the heavier stuff closer to

630
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: my body. So I kind of like lay it down

631
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: pack the stuff in. I don't necessarily think of it

632
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: packing like heavy stuff at the bottom, heavy stuff at

633
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: the top. I think of packing heavy stuff closest to

634
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: my body and then the lighter stuff further out. Um

635
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: A lot of internal frame packs actually have a zip

636
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: where you can kind of unzip and then pack it.

637
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: That way, you're going to get a lot better balance.

638
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: Now it comes to packing out meat or whatever, you

639
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: just want to you know, tight and close to your body.

640
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: I tend to find that, you know, you could go

641
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: a little bit lower with the like heavier weight when

642
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: it comes to the pack up. I mean sometimes there's

643
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: only one way it fits in. It's like, okay, all

644
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: the weights down lower, but the internal frame tends to

645
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: distribute lower weight better than an external frame. So that's

646
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: the two different ways that you would pack that external frame.

647
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: You kind of pack from the bottom up where you

648
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: want most of the weight slightly high of center, and

649
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: like if it was vertical sitting on you, from light

650
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: at the bottom, more weight in the center, and then

651
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: a little bit of weight at the top. And then

652
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: the opposite internal frame you want to pack horizontally with

653
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: the weight close to the body and then go out

654
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: with the lighter weight. The last thing with a pack

655
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: is when you're packing out meat. You know, there's a

656
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: couple options you've got, like frame packouts or just putting

657
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: it in the bag. I like to put all the

658
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: meat in the bag. There's a lot of guys that

659
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: like to just pack with the frame. You'r you save

660
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: a lot of weight that way, But for me, I

661
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: just like being everything really tight and secure. I just

662
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: kind of actually used my bag like the bag of

663
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: the pack to pack everything out in and then I

664
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: just find ways in places the stuff all the extra gear. Um,

665
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: I've actually got where you can kind of pull away.

666
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: You've got a load shell in there, I'll put like,

667
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: that's great for a quarter and you don't have to

668
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: take your um other gear out. So it just depends

669
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: like what I'm packing and how I use it. That's

670
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: a more simple way. If I'm just going in for

671
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: a pack out some days and I know, hey, I've

672
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: just got one quarter or two quarters or whatever. Sometimes

673
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: I'll just go in with just my frame itself. It's

674
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: a really nice way to kind of go in lightweight,

675
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: just bring what you need and not necessarily have to

676
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: carry the extra weight of the pack bag itself. Um.

677
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,719
Speaker 1: That's just something to think about. And there's a lot

678
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: of guys too that maybe hunt with a lighter daypack

679
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: and then they've got more stout pack at the truck

680
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: that they get. I personally like to be able to

681
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: just take a good load in, Like when I'm hunting,

682
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: I shoot something, I'm definitely packing out right then and there.

683
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: I like to minimize my trips, so I like to

684
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: have kind of whatever I'm planning on packing out in

685
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: is what I'm hunting in of the time. Now, the

686
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: last thing we'll talk about would be accessories for a pack.

687
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: I think these are just kind of up to each person.

688
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: But there's a few things, a few items to go

689
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: with my pack that I kind of always have. One

690
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: would be extra cordage or like webbing, anything to secure

691
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: that load, because, like I said, the worst thing with

692
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: the pack is just that floppy pack syndrome that where

693
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: that pack is just wiggling around, burning out your muscles

694
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: in a short amount of time. So I've got like

695
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: kind of like what you'd see, you know, a little

696
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 1: buckle on it. Um, I get him a like climbing stores.

697
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, there's you can pretty much Amazon wherever.

698
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: UM just like extra straps that look almost like pack

699
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: buckle straps where you could wrap it around the pack,

700
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,959
Speaker 1: helps sinch the antlers down, anything like Paara cord or whatever.

701
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes the buckles work really good because you don't have

702
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 1: to worry about having somewhere to tie it to. UM,

703
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: it's just nice too, like you could wrap it around

704
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 1: the pack or add it to a buckle or something

705
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: like that. Uh. Sometimes I'll buy extra buckles for my

706
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: pack and then get extra links of cord or like

707
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: webbing that fit those buckles so I could just readjust

708
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: the way that the packs even designed just based on

709
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: what I'm putting on it. Sometimes you gotta strap stuff

710
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: to the outside. Sometimes the antlers are awkward, so that

711
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: always helps. Another thing that I always have, I just

712
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 1: a garbage bag in my like a contractor style bag,

713
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: because I like to keep my pack bag clean. I've

714
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: talked about it, but if you're cooling your meat down,

715
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: when you stop and you hang it and everything's right,

716
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: it's fine to put in plastic. Your bag is not

717
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: going to breathe any better. For the most part. You're

718
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: just gonna get soaked in blood. All your gear is

719
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: gonna get bloody, messy, smell bad, especially if it starts

720
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: to rain and other things, and it's just gonna attract

721
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: the bears and stuff like that. So I just like

722
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: to keep my pack clean, so I always have a

723
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: little garbage bag in there. And then something to think

724
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: about too. When you're one of the hard parts like

725
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: killing that flop, getting everything that weight tight and centered.

726
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 1: One thing that's hard is packing out antlers. The handlers

727
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 1: are awkward. So there's a couple of ways, a couple

728
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 1: of strategies that I do. I'll carry maybe an extra

729
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: bag the first technique, um is good, but it can

730
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: be dangerous and kind of catch on things. Also, like

731
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: other hunters, you know, some times you'll see like antlers

732
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: up on smaller meals or whatever. If I'm in a

733
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: place where it's like, hey, it's an archery season in

734
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 1: the backcountry, heck yeah, I just put the antler's face

735
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 1: up at the top of my pack and then strap

736
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: my hood over the top of it. Keeps it nice

737
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: and centered, doesn't bounce around, especially if they're like velvet

738
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: or something like that. You don't early season archery meal here.

739
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: You don't want him rubbing on anything. So that's that's

740
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: a good technique, um, but that doesn't work for everything.

741
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: You know, maybe there's times where you're like, dude, this

742
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 1: is the pumpkin patch out here. If I've got antlers

743
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: above my head in a brown pack, I'm definitely getting shot.

744
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: So those situations go antlers down. You just want to

745
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: make sure that and however you're carrying them, the antlers

746
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: if you fall or whatever, aren't gonna poke you in

747
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: any way. Another way that I'll do is I'll put

748
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: like a garbage sack over the skull if I if

749
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to do a euro take the whole skull out.

750
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: Otherwise I bring a saw in skull cap it. But

751
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 1: I'll just put it kind of like over my shoulders forward,

752
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: Especially with elk, where I'm like holding the antlers down

753
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 1: in front of me. It puts a lot of extra

754
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: weight on the shoulders. But it can be an okay

755
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 1: way where you can take on and off. But I'd

756
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: say the best way is like if you can slash

757
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: into your pack, but not having way too far back.

758
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: A good way to deal with antlers is the same

759
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: way that I would do if I'm packing horses. So

760
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: think about like if you've got an elk rack on

761
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: a horse, what you don't want is you need to

762
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: keep it up so it doesn't slide down so it

763
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: doesn't hit the horse on the side. So what I'll

764
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: do is I'll pack it on the top and then

765
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 1: I'll run a stick between the antlers that lays across

766
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: the saddle bags or something like that so it keeps

767
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: the antlers up. I do the same thing on my pack.

768
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: I'll either use my trekking pull or whatever. Use some cordage.

769
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 1: So you gotta think you're running a bar a stick,

770
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: maybe cut a stick. I mean, I cut a stick

771
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: a lot and you run it between the antlers and

772
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: you put that on the outside the pack so the

773
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: antlers can be faced down the skull part or whatever

774
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: would be up. Strap that on and then it doesn't

775
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: swing forward, but you've got it kind of like where

776
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: it keeps those antlers from poking forward too much. It's

777
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 1: a really good way to kind of keep it centered. Um.

778
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: And then you can kind of still sit down like

779
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: that too, if you find the right sticker rock when

780
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: you need to take a break, um, And it also

781
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: kind of holds the pack up. One last thing I

782
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: will say when it comes to getting up with a

783
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: heavy pack on, here's here's the my patented philosophy. You

784
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 1: put the pack on, you sit yourself, and I see

785
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: like people trying to help other people up or whatever

786
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: I mean, or like hold the pack, hold a heavy pack.

787
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: If you've got a real heavy pack on, don't be

788
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: holding the pack for your buddy to get into. Just

789
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: everybody do themselves. You've gotta be able to get up

790
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: on your own or like in this way. And I

791
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: found that this is the best way to get up

792
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: with a heavy pack. You could be assisted or whatever.

793
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: Have the pack on the ground. You get into the pack.

794
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: You first, you know, you tighten your waist belt. You

795
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: kind of do everything. You go through the motions of

796
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: putting the pack on, so waist belt first while on

797
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: the ground, Uh, then pack straps, tighten your shoulder straps.

798
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: And then what I like to do is if you

799
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: need help, if you can help each other out, cool,

800
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: But I think the best way is to roll over

801
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: so you're like on all four's face in the ground,

802
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: and then stand up from there, use your legs to

803
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: stand up. I mean, I've seen people get injured just

804
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: like trying to pull each other up, trying to whatever it.

805
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: Just help them get over into that position on your

806
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: knees or whatever, and then power up and stand up

807
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: from there one leg at a time. I mean, I

808
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: can easily get my body weight or more off the

809
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: ground by myself. With that way, you're using the correct muscles,

810
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: you aren't straining, aren't hurting anybody else. I mean, most

811
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: packout injuries are probably somebody helping someone else get up

812
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,479
Speaker 1: or getting into the pack of funny way, or trying

813
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: to get up strange. So that's the best way to

814
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: do it. That's the best way that I've found another

815
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 1: good option too, if you've got a heavy pack using

816
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 1: hiking trekking poles, cutting a stick something. What that does

817
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: is it just helps with your balance, It stops your like,

818
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 1: helps your core out, it helps your footing, it helps

819
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 1: everything and takes a lot of that felt weight off.

820
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen studies as much as of the

821
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: felt weight can be distributed by kind of going what

822
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: I would say, four wheel drive, having to dicks to

823
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: help you, especially with a large pack and steep train.

824
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: So just something to think about. I hope that that

825
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: kind of covered all a lot of the basics of packs,

826
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: pack types, and packouts, how to load a pack, and um,

827
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: there's just there's so many little things that a lot

828
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: of people, especially those that aren't used to it, don't

829
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: really think about, and then they get out there and

830
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: then you're the guy on the trail that's got a

831
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: heavy weight on and your pack belts holding your hip

832
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: flix ers down and the pack is not fit and

833
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: you're just like floppy pack syndrome and you're just burning out.

834
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: When something that is designed to make that task a

835
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 1: heck of a lot easier, if used right, will make

836
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: that task a heck of a lot easier. I hope

837
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: you enjoyed that podcast. If you did, you know, feel

838
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 1: free to share it with your friends, leave a comment

839
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: or rating. Actually, last night was going through some of

840
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: the comments and stuff, and I just thank you guys

841
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: so much. Some of those comments, I mean, I do

842
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: read them. They mean a lot to me. It's just

843
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: like kind of the fuel for me when I's got

844
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: up this morning'm like, yes, I'm excited to record another

845
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: podcast because people are enjoying them. So I really thank

846
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: you guys so much for for that, for those comments,

847
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: for those ratings, for sharing the podcast with your friends

848
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: and hunting buddies and whatever. So thank you guys so

849
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: much that it really does mean a lot to me.

850
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 1: And next week is going to be all about listeners.

851
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: It's gonna be our Q and A. So make sure

852
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: to shoot over those questions. I've been getting a lot.

853
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: I've got a good list going already. Um some stuff

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Speaker 1: cool stuff. So thank you guys for shooting those over.

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Speaker 1: As always, feel free to reach out via social media

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Speaker 1: at Remy Warren on Instagram, primarily way that I try

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Speaker 1: media things, YouTube, whatever, um. But those are the best

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Speaker 1: So I just I keep note to those things. I've

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Speaker 1: And that just comes from the questions that you guys

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