WEBVTT - #626 Packers Unscripted: One that got away 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:10.560 Hi, everyone, Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:13.680 Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:16.120 by my trusted colleague Wes Hodkowitz. Were coming to you 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:19.439 here from our studios at lambeau Field and West. The 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:22.919 Packers seven game winning streak unfortunately came to an end 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:26.439 on Sunday in Kansas City, a very frustrating thirteen to 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:30.800 seven loss. As we watched Jordan's Love's first NFL start 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:35.320 at quarterback. And while it didn't go well and he 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:38.239 didn't really look and feel comfortable and get into any 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:41.120 kind of a rhythm until the fourth quarter, this game 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:44.479 was still there for the taking thanks to the Packers defense, 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:47.560 which had an outstanding performance against Patrick Mahomes. It's definitely 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:50.000 one of the top five defensive performances I've seen on 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:52.320 the beat. I mean, just what they were able to 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:55.360 do in terms of dictating the tempo. And it's actually 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:57.760 really interesting, Mike, if you take away that opening series, 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:00.120 the fifteen play sixty four yard driver, they act we 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:02.320 scored the touchdown with the past to Kelsey in the 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:05.639 end zone. Really Kansas City did nothing. I mean, they 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:07.440 were able to get the two field goals, but even 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:09.920 that it was kind of off of turnovers and weird 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:12.040 the one the one was a turnover, the other one 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:14.679 was was one down the field play to Kelsey that 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:17.000 set up a long field goal of fifty five yard 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:20.399 or that was all they got offensively after the opening 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:23.000 touchdown drive. And remarkably, I mean, they finished this game 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:26.240 with like eighteen and a half defensive players available, even 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:28.040 though you know, Dean Lowry was still there, they had 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:30.959 him on a rep count. It was remarkable what they 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:34.480 did defensively. Unfortunately for Green Bay offensively, they were kind 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:37.360 of having their own issues like Kansas City was working 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:41.440 through and and you could just tell despite not having 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:44.160 Aaron Rodgers, you know, having these multitude of players that 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:46.800 were unavailable, not getting David box tri back for this 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:49.920 game quite yet, you still felt like Matt Lafleur and 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:52.360 his postgame press conference, in the twenty three minute news 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.880 conference he did on Monday, you could sense in his 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:58.000 voice he he definitely felt like they let this was 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:01.040 one that was winnable that kind of got away from Yeah. Now, 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:04.160 at the same time, the message I keep saying over 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:07.280 and over again was they did have a lot against them. 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:10.320 They did have a seven game winning streak. The NFC 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:13.120 North is what the NFC North is right now. The 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.600 Packers really you don't hear a lot of dejection in 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:17.840 their voices because I think they look at this is 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:21.639 basically the worst case scenario where you lost Rogers. If 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:23.400 they can get him back this upcoming week, There's a 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:24.960 lot of things that have to get figured out between 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:28.040 now and Saturday. But defensively, the type of showing that 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:29.560 they had in Kansas City, I think that shows that 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:32.240 this greenmate Packers team can play with anybody. Yeah. Absolutely, 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:34.640 the Packers feel really good about where their defense is 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.359 right now. And of course everyone is wondering, Okay, if 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:39.799 you do get Ji r Alexander back at some point, 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:42.040 if you do get Zadarius Smith back at some point, 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:45.600 then just how strong will this defense be for the 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:47.600 stretch run? And and we'll talk about this a little 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:49.160 more later in the show, but the Packers are in 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:51.960 great position in the NFC North, obviously a three and 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:55.120 a half game lead over the Vikings. This was a 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:57.680 frustrating one to let get away, though, And I know 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:01.360 Matt Lafleur i I wrote about it as well. He 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:03.760 he really felt he let his quarterback down in terms 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:06.320 of all the heat he was taking on third down 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:08.560 with the blitz is and everything from the Kansas City 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:12.000 Chiefs and whether it was the play calls, the protection calls, everything, 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:15.200 Mattlthleor just felt he didn't have the answers for Jordan's 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:18.640 Love to be able to respond and to succeed in 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:21.800 those situations. But I'll throw this in as well, because 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:25.120 you know, everybody knows the special teams played a big 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:28.200 factor in this game on the negative side of things 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:30.440 for Green Bay. And you know, you have the one 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:32.400 missed field goal, you have a blocked field goal, you 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:35.240 have a muff punt that leads to three points for 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:37.800 the other team. So that's nine points in a game 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:40.080 that you lose by six. That you know that, Uh, 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:43.720 that's obviously a huge factor here. And what I'll what 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:45.920 I'll wonder about, and this is all the the if 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:48.160 sands and butts of of this game when we look 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:51.120 back at it, right, is if the Packers get that 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:53.240 first field goal or the second one, and they have 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:56.040 three points or six points on the board, how much 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:59.040 better does Jordan's Love feel about things as he moves forward? 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:02.240 How how aggressive are the Kansas City Chiefs on all 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:05.920 those third downs. If the score is seven to six 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:08.000 or ten to six instead of tend to nothing in 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:10.680 thirteen to nothing, you know, the chief state in a 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:14.520 position where they could they could really throw caution to 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:16.440 the wind in a lot of respects. And you just 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:20.159 wonder sometimes, if the game had been a little bit closer, 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.680 would Steve Spagnola, who's as aggressive as there is as 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:26.480 a defensive coordinator, would there just have been a couple 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:28.840 of moments or two where maybe he doesn't take quite 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:31.120 so many chances. I just wonder. I'm not saying that 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:33.400 that's what he would have done, but I wonder hypothetically. 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:35.360 I think you're probably on point, though, right. I mean, 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:38.120 it did not to compare this so high school football game, 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:39.640 but I saw this a lot when I was covering 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.520 preps a long time ago. I never covered college football, 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:44.800 so I can't use that as an analogy. But you know, 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.440 if you find this situation where a quarterback has to throw, 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.000 and he's a young guy, and not that he's necessarily rattled, 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.200 but you understand the quicker you're able to get to him, 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:55.000 that the chance of big player going to be neutralized. 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:57.640 That's kind of the way this felt, the way that 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:00.240 Spagnola called that second half, and being able to really 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:02.560 apply pressure in Green Bay, just not being able to 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:04.560 get out of those third down situations. You can look 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:06.039 at the fact that they were what was it end 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.560 up being two of twelve on third downs, oh, for 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:11.479 the first nine before finally getting a conversion in the 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:13.520 fourth course. It's also the fact they fell into those 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:16.080 third down situations. And in my biggest thing when I 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:19.400 look back at this game, twenty carries for Aaron Jones 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:21.719 a J. Dillon, you just want to potentially see that 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:24.160 number be larger, especially with the way that A J. 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:26.600 Dillon is running the ball now. Matt Lafleur discussed that 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:29.680 the ratio between the run and the past not exactly 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:32.080 what he was looking for. You do give him the 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:34.080 benefit of the doubt that they were playing against some 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:37.119 loaded boxes. They did have some runs that were called 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:39.640 that ended up getting canned because of those loaded boxes, 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:43.880 but they still were able to have success against it. 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:47.440 That's the difference here. Wasn't like against seven and eight 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:50.080 man boxes that Aaron Jones and a J. Dillon weren't 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:52.279 able to move the ball. They actually did it pretty well, 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:55.240 and I think that's probably the thing that ends up 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:56.720 being what will stick in the crawl a little bit, 0:05:56.720 --> 0:06:00.599 as there were opportunities there and ultimately getting back to 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:03.200 the special teams. The Packers have to sort this out 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.400 because you know they've made adjustments. You give them credit. 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:07.880 You know they felt like they could do better at 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:10.880 long snapper. They make the decision. Countra Bradley has had 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:12.719 three and a half seasons. We're gonna give stephen Wardle 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:16.040 an opportunity. Wardle has been here for two months. They've 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:19.279 seen him in practice. We haven't. They have. They felt 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:21.159 like this was the right time. But you have to 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:23.520 get these field goal protection issues figured out. You have 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:25.320 to be able to get those snaps down. You have 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:28.159 to give Mason Crosby an opportunity to be Mason Crosby. 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:32.360 They didn't do that, and credit to Marie Straiton, Matt Lafleur. 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:35.400 They stuck with Amari Rodgers. I think you have to 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:37.359 see the big picture there with Rogers. You have to 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:39.719 understand that we are in week nine now week ten. 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.039 They want this young man to be a part of 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:44.400 this organization, a part of this team, a big, big, 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:47.159 big time playmaker on both offense and special teams for 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:49.520 years to come. You want to stick with him and 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.520 ride this thing out. You still have Randall Cobb in 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:55.080 the background if you want them. But you know it's 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:57.520 ultimately going to come down to making improvements because the 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.000 thing is Mike. With special teams, there's going to be changed. 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:01.760 There's going to be guys that go in and out 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:03.760 of the lineup. You have to be able to maintain 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:05.960 that core and you have to stay disciplined. Yeah, and 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.720 we'll hear from coach Drayton later in the week in 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:12.000 terms of in terms of exactly what he felt and 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:15.920 in his discussions with with Crosby, with the snapper, the holder, 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.920 and and what went wrong. Obviously the protection is an issue, 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:22.000 is an issue anytime that a kick gets blocked. So 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:26.320 what exactly went wrong? Um, hopefully we'll find out some more, 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:29.520 some more information, some more thoughts there later in the week. 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:34.160 But just obviously very frustrating when when one of your 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:38.440 three phases plays probably it's best game of the season 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:40.880 in terms in terms of a start to finish four 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:45.920 quarter performance, and uh, and the special teams doesn't help you, 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:49.560 and the offense just doesn't doesn't really ever get going 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:54.120 until the fourth quarter. Unfortunately, now in that fourth quarter, 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:57.080 Jordan's Love put together a couple of really nice drives. 0:07:57.120 --> 0:08:00.200 The one ends with an interception on on third down. 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:03.120 Actually that was one of the rare third downs when 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:06.000 the Chiefs didn't blitz, they actually dropped and played coverage. 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:08.200 He still tried to go with the one on one 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:11.600 opportunity over the top to Davantae Adams down the sideline 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:15.600 and that gets that gets intercepted. Um. Then the next drive, 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.840 the Packers are able to get a touchdown on the 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:22.640 fourth down pass to Alan Lazart, a blitzpeeder there the 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:25.160 balls out of Love's hand quickly, Lizard makes a man 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.320 miss and gets into the end zone. You just you 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:31.080 just wish, and you can't put any blame on the 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:35.000 defense here, obviously, But if you could have stopped that 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.120 third and ten right at the end, you know, right 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:40.199 after the two minute warning, now the Chiefs would have 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:43.000 punted the Packers back to the ten yard line, Jordan's 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:45.000 Love would have had no time mounts less than two 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:47.640 minutes and ninety yards to go for a touchdown. I mean, 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:49.560 that would have been a that would have been a 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:53.080 monumental task. But with the rhythm that he was starting 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:55.120 to find in the fourth quarter. You just you just 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.960 would have liked to have seen him get that opportunity 0:08:57.960 --> 0:08:59.680 to see if maybe he could have pulled it off. 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:03.240 But really, the one time all day that Patrick Mahomes 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:06.560 looked like Patrick Mahomes was on that third and ten 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:08.920 where he scrambles away from the pressure on the blitz. 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.800 The Packers are covering like mad in the back end 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:15.600 because that play lasted seven, eight, nine seconds whatever it was, 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:19.480 and Tyreek Hill is able to just get enough clearance 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:23.000 from Channon Sullivan um and then Adrian NamUs with the 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:26.160 hit and you know, Hill secures that ball well enough 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:28.439 so that the ball doesn't come out on the hit, 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:30.520 and then the Chiefs are able to run out the clock. 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.040 I like the way the Packers lost that game, though, 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.240 Does that if that makes any sense to you, because 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:37.439 it reminded me a lot of how they finished the 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:40.320 Arizona game. You don't want to leave any anything left 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:44.800 in the chamber. They went with the blitz. Credit to them, 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:48.160 they were able to pick up the blitz and ultimately 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.920 Patrick Mahomes, a former m v P quarterback, made a 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:53.040 play and you can maybe make a case of one 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:55.520 of the few plays that was made during that game 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.480 being able to find his main target. It is what 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:01.640 it is. I like the way that Green Bay, though, 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:05.160 has maintained an aggressive approach. I think that's been a 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:07.280 change you've seen over the last five six games, and 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:09.840 the way that guys execute in those moments. And the 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:12.680 fact is they lost Kenny Clark in the third quarter 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:14.800 to the back injury. It sounds like, hopefully that won't 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.400 be a long term issue. You lose Eric Stokes during 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:20.400 pregame warmups to knee injury, so suddenly it doesn't become 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:22.920 a question of well, do you keep Resseul Douglass out 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:24.760 there or do you go with the returning Kevin King. 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:27.280 They needed both of them on the field. They still 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:31.160 needed Henry Black as the dime linebacker. You know, Chris 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:34.359 Barnes has arguably the best game of his career, alongside 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:38.120 DeAndre Campbell, who had another eight plus tackle performance. These 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:39.960 guys not to say they ran out of gas, because 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:42.040 that's not the point I'm trying to illustrate, but they 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:44.000 had to rely on so many guys. Look at the 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.400 defensive line at the end of the game, all that 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:50.199 was left was rookie t J. Slayton, Tyler Lancaster I 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:51.800 thought played a whale of a ball game who was 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:54.440 in and out with an injury himself himself and Jack 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:57.320 Heflin's playing his first NFL game, the undrafted free agent 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:59.920 out of Iowa. So the Green Bay they fought too 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:01.760 and nail right to the very end. It didn't work 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:04.040 out for them, But as Kevin King said after the game, 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:07.080 they're going to be scary, man. If they can get JR. 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:10.240 Alexander back here soon, if they can get Zadarius Smith 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:12.720 back by the end of the season. This defense, with 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:14.280 the way they're playing, if they can add in their 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:17.640 best players, now they got something cooking. Yeah. They this 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:20.760 this defense we've been talking about it. You you wonder 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:24.079 with the progress the unit has made all the way 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:26.920 along since a very rough Week one, which is which 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:29.400 was a rough Week one for the entire team, but 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:32.240 it certainly was rough for the defense. The progress that's 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:36.000 been made, it feels like the progress hasn't plateau, not 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:38.439 like the arrow is still pointing up with these guys, 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:40.240 and when you know that they're not at full strength, 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:43.199 as you mentioned the defensive line, you know, Clark ended 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:45.680 up leaving the game. King's Ley Kiki was was out 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:49.040 this game, having gotten a concussion the previous week. Um, 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:53.960 there's there's still there's still more rising to do the 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:55.720 way it looks right now, And I made a mistake 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:57.240 a couple of days ago, Mike, I want to clear 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.439 up now because I said, you know, Devandre Campbell, I 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:02.480 haven't seen an inside linebacker playing the way he's playing 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:04.840 right now. No, I did. It was Clay Matthews. It 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.440 was Clay Matthews in the second half of that fourteen season. 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:10.800 They're different players. I'm not saying Campbell's Matthews. But what 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:12.880 I'm saying, though, is that they have a guy who 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:15.680 can play sideline to sideline. They can keep two linebackers 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:17.480 on the field, and I think that's really made a 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:20.280 huge difference with this defense. You don't see Adrian Amos 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:23.160 having to play as much up at the line of scrimmage. 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:25.960 Joe Barry really doesn't even play that much dime defense 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.120 to begin with. He's comfortable leaving it with the five 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.120 defensive backs and the two linebackers and a lot of 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:34.800 passing situations. That ability to be that flexible in the 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:36.520 middle of the field. I think that's made a huge 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:38.640 difference with this defense. In addition to the defensive line 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:40.520 being able to pick up some of the pressure concepts 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:44.640 without having Zadarius Smith that area, I think is really 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:47.320 interesting to watch. If they can continue that he that 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:49.440 incline over the second half of the season, because Mike, 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:53.480 they finished fourteen really strong after a poor start. If 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:56.840 you can continue and build onto this in the second 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:58.400 half the season, the Green Bay Packers are going to 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:00.880 get the defense they've been looking for for the ten years. Yeah, 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:02.880 I agree with you. I agree with you a wholeheartedly. 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:05.560 A shout out to our sponsors. Here West Serious x 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:09.000 M NFL Radio delivers hard hitting that hard hitting analysis 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:11.840 and up to the minute NFL news that true football 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:16.120 fanatics need seven three six And at Cousin Subs, we 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:19.079 have something for everyone. 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We're now getting their 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:58.679 quarterback back, and the Packers will kind of be wondering 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:01.439 all week what exactly is going to happen at quarterback 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:05.360 because Aaron Rodgers is he will be first eligible to 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:08.960 come off of the reserve COVID nineteen list on Saturday, 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:12.000 which would be a ten day absence from when um 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:15.920 he had his positive test and um if he is 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:19.160 medically cleared. Matt Lafleur has said that Aaron Rodgers will 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:22.880 start on Sunday despite not practicing at all last week 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:26.040 or this week. UM, that he will start if he 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:28.720 is medically cleared. But Jordan's Love will be taking all 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:32.640 of the practice reps. It's really a matter of getting 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.760 two quarterbacks prepared for this game. One of them is 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.480 only going to be able to prepare mentally, uh, you know, 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:41.440 in essence, but the Packers are going to prepare both 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:43.880 quarterbacks and then as you said at the beginning of 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:46.800 the show, see where the Chips Fall on Saturday with 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.640 with Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, as Matt Lafleur said, he's never 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:52.760 really dealt with anything like this before. I has, right, 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:55.000 I mean, and being able to have one quarterback in 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:57.760 the building and one quarterback not and really, as he said, though, 0:14:57.800 --> 0:14:59.880 it is just about preparing both of those guys for 0:14:59.920 --> 0:15:02.160 the same opponent in what the Packers have to do 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:06.640 offensively to attack that opponent. It's great that you know that, 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:08.080 you know Jordan's love is going to be in a 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:10.840 position to contribute, to be able to to have that 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:13.040 experience last week if called upon in a game that 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:14.800 I think now the Packers really do need to win, 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:17.080 not that they didn't have to win on Sunday, but 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:19.840 this is a team they should beat regardless I think 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:21.800 of the quarterback just based on how things have gone 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.200 for Seattle this year, and absolutely and when you're coming 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.560 back home, coming back home, coming back home, after being 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:29.120 on the road four the last five games, you want 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:31.320 to set the tone again at home because because the 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:33.520 back half of the schedule now five of the packers 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:36.080 last eight games are at lambeau Field. This is where 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:38.040 you want to start. You want to start building and 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:41.160 making that late season charge without questions, So it'll be 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:44.080 really just the bigger thing of Okay, where is Aaron Rodgers? 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:47.040 At what point can he you know, potentially test negative 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:49.320 this week? Can you get the negative tests apart the 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:50.680 way you need to for him to be back in 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.160 the building, and if he's is and if he's able 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:55.080 to be on there on Saturday. As Matt Foor said, 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:57.280 he's not concerned at all about his ability to step 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:59.360 in and play. And honestly, Mike, we've seen that with 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:01.520 some of the injury is in the past, pay through. 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:04.040 I don't think that's gonna be the biggest issue. The 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.840 question is really just going to be the uncertainty that 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.920 is revolving around this virus, around how you are about 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:13.640 to prepare a football team. I think from a preparation standpoint, though, 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:15.880 if he is cleared, if he's back out thing the 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:17.840 field and Sunday, I expect the same here and Rodgers 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:20.600 as always. Yeah, I think I think that's what everybody 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:25.200 certainly will expect, and Matt Lafleur expects that, Otherwise he 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:28.360 wouldn't have already declared what he's declared in terms of 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:32.560 in terms of that starting quarterback situation for Sunday. Big 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.120 picture here west. As I noted earlier, the Packers have 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.440 a three and a half game lead in the NFC 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:40.600 North over the Vikings a four game lead over the Bears, 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:44.800 because both of those division rivals lost on late field goals, 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:48.680 the Vikings in overtime, the Bears on Monday night, um 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:52.640 a last minute field goal by the Pittsburgh Steelers, and 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:56.840 some other things quite frankly, went pretty well for Green Bay, 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:59.600 you know, in terms of on a week that you lose. 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.840 The Dallas Cowboys, the Los Angeles Rams also took their 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:06.720 second losses, and we had seen the previous week before 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:09.439 the Buccaneers went on their bye week, the Buccaneers had 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:13.520 taken their second loss. So there's only a single solitary 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:16.119 one lost team left, not only in the NFC but 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:19.120 in the entire NFL, and that's the Arizona Cardinals. Tip 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:21.119 your hat to them. They had lost their quarterback, their 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:23.360 number one receiver. They lost their number one running back 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:25.840 very early in the game against San Francisco, but had 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:29.320 no trouble with the forty Niners. So the Cardinals are 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:31.000 eight and one. That's the team that's sitting in the 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:35.199 catbird seat right now as we get into the second 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:39.480 half stretch of the season. But it's still all right 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:41.480 out in front of the Green Bay Packers at seven 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:43.560 and two and only one game off of the pace 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.640 behind a team that you did beat head to head. Yeah, 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:48.800 and NFC, I mean one and seven against the a 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:51.080 f C this weekend, including that game against you know, 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:54.280 with Chicago and Pittsburgh. Isn't that something I'm sorry to 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.200 interrupt you, but when we're talking a couple of weeks 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.320 that were talking about all these one lost teams in 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:02.679 the NFC, right and the a f C has everybody 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.560 with two or three or more losses, and then you 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:08.719 have a week like this where suddenly everybody in the 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:10.960 a f C is beating everybody in the NFC. It's 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:12.960 just the way this league goes. The only thing that 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:15.560 didn't go in Green Bay's direction was San Francisco falling 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:17.680 against Arizona. And to be honest with you, we've talked 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:21.440 about Matt the Flora divert deservingly so, Mike McCarthy, Sean Payton, 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:23.280 the job he's done in New Orleans. We probably do 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:25.760 need to start giving some respect to Cliff Kingsbury because 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:28.199 to run the ball thirty nine times, everybody says they 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:31.760 don't run the football. Colt McCoy, I really thought that 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:33.760 was what the table setter was for him having the 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.159 game that he did. And they lost Chase Edmonds. I 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:38.000 believe it was in the first quarter in that game, 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:40.040 was it not? I mean so yeah, so, I mean 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:42.480 they had to make some some heavy adjustments and prevailed. 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:44.160 I think that's the sign of a winning football team, 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:46.360 a team that is not going away down the stretch here. 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:49.840 But Green Bay, man that you look at the division 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:52.199