1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague Wes Hodkowitz. Were coming to you 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: here from our studios at lambeau Field and West. The 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: Packers seven game winning streak unfortunately came to an end 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: on Sunday in Kansas City, a very frustrating thirteen to 7 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: seven loss. As we watched Jordan's Love's first NFL start 8 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: at quarterback. And while it didn't go well and he 9 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: didn't really look and feel comfortable and get into any 10 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: kind of a rhythm until the fourth quarter, this game 11 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: was still there for the taking thanks to the Packers defense, 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: which had an outstanding performance against Patrick Mahomes. It's definitely 13 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: one of the top five defensive performances I've seen on 14 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: the beat. I mean, just what they were able to 15 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: do in terms of dictating the tempo. And it's actually 16 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: really interesting, Mike, if you take away that opening series, 17 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: the fifteen play sixty four yard driver, they act we 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: scored the touchdown with the past to Kelsey in the 19 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,639 Speaker 1: end zone. Really Kansas City did nothing. I mean, they 20 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: were able to get the two field goals, but even 21 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: that it was kind of off of turnovers and weird 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: the one the one was a turnover, the other one 23 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: was was one down the field play to Kelsey that 24 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: set up a long field goal of fifty five yard 25 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: or that was all they got offensively after the opening 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: touchdown drive. And remarkably, I mean, they finished this game 27 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: with like eighteen and a half defensive players available, even 28 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: though you know, Dean Lowry was still there, they had 29 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: him on a rep count. It was remarkable what they 30 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: did defensively. Unfortunately for Green Bay offensively, they were kind 31 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: of having their own issues like Kansas City was working 32 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: through and and you could just tell despite not having 33 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, you know, having these multitude of players that 34 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: were unavailable, not getting David box tri back for this 35 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: game quite yet, you still felt like Matt Lafleur and 36 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: his postgame press conference, in the twenty three minute news 37 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: conference he did on Monday, you could sense in his 38 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: voice he he definitely felt like they let this was 39 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: one that was winnable that kind of got away from Yeah. Now, 40 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: at the same time, the message I keep saying over 41 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: and over again was they did have a lot against them. 42 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: They did have a seven game winning streak. The NFC 43 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: North is what the NFC North is right now. The 44 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: Packers really you don't hear a lot of dejection in 45 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: their voices because I think they look at this is 46 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: basically the worst case scenario where you lost Rogers. If 47 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: they can get him back this upcoming week, There's a 48 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: lot of things that have to get figured out between 49 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: now and Saturday. But defensively, the type of showing that 50 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: they had in Kansas City, I think that shows that 51 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: this greenmate Packers team can play with anybody. Yeah. Absolutely, 52 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: the Packers feel really good about where their defense is 53 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: right now. And of course everyone is wondering, Okay, if 54 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: you do get Ji r Alexander back at some point, 55 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: if you do get Zadarius Smith back at some point, 56 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: then just how strong will this defense be for the 57 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: stretch run? And and we'll talk about this a little 58 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: more later in the show, but the Packers are in 59 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: great position in the NFC North, obviously a three and 60 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: a half game lead over the Vikings. This was a 61 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: frustrating one to let get away, though, And I know 62 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur i I wrote about it as well. He 63 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: he really felt he let his quarterback down in terms 64 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: of all the heat he was taking on third down 65 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: with the blitz is and everything from the Kansas City 66 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: Chiefs and whether it was the play calls, the protection calls, everything, 67 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: Mattlthleor just felt he didn't have the answers for Jordan's 68 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: Love to be able to respond and to succeed in 69 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: those situations. But I'll throw this in as well, because 70 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: you know, everybody knows the special teams played a big 71 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: factor in this game on the negative side of things 72 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: for Green Bay. And you know, you have the one 73 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: missed field goal, you have a blocked field goal, you 74 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: have a muff punt that leads to three points for 75 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: the other team. So that's nine points in a game 76 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: that you lose by six. That you know that, Uh, 77 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: that's obviously a huge factor here. And what I'll what 78 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: I'll wonder about, and this is all the the if 79 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: sands and butts of of this game when we look 80 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: back at it, right, is if the Packers get that 81 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: first field goal or the second one, and they have 82 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: three points or six points on the board, how much 83 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: better does Jordan's Love feel about things as he moves forward? 84 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: How how aggressive are the Kansas City Chiefs on all 85 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: those third downs. If the score is seven to six 86 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: or ten to six instead of tend to nothing in 87 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: thirteen to nothing, you know, the chief state in a 88 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: position where they could they could really throw caution to 89 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: the wind in a lot of respects. And you just 90 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: wonder sometimes, if the game had been a little bit closer, 91 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: would Steve Spagnola, who's as aggressive as there is as 92 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator, would there just have been a couple 93 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: of moments or two where maybe he doesn't take quite 94 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: so many chances. I just wonder. I'm not saying that 95 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: that's what he would have done, but I wonder hypothetically. 96 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: I think you're probably on point, though, right. I mean, 97 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: it did not to compare this so high school football game, 98 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: but I saw this a lot when I was covering 99 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: preps a long time ago. I never covered college football, 100 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: so I can't use that as an analogy. But you know, 101 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: if you find this situation where a quarterback has to throw, 102 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: and he's a young guy, and not that he's necessarily rattled, 103 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: but you understand the quicker you're able to get to him, 104 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: that the chance of big player going to be neutralized. 105 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: That's kind of the way this felt, the way that 106 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: Spagnola called that second half, and being able to really 107 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: apply pressure in Green Bay, just not being able to 108 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: get out of those third down situations. You can look 109 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: at the fact that they were what was it end 110 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: up being two of twelve on third downs, oh, for 111 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: the first nine before finally getting a conversion in the 112 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: fourth course. It's also the fact they fell into those 113 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: third down situations. And in my biggest thing when I 114 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: look back at this game, twenty carries for Aaron Jones 115 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: a J. Dillon, you just want to potentially see that 116 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: number be larger, especially with the way that A J. 117 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: Dillon is running the ball now. Matt Lafleur discussed that 118 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: the ratio between the run and the past not exactly 119 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: what he was looking for. You do give him the 120 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt that they were playing against some 121 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,119 Speaker 1: loaded boxes. They did have some runs that were called 122 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: that ended up getting canned because of those loaded boxes, 123 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: but they still were able to have success against it. 124 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: That's the difference here. Wasn't like against seven and eight 125 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: man boxes that Aaron Jones and a J. Dillon weren't 126 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: able to move the ball. They actually did it pretty well, 127 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: and I think that's probably the thing that ends up 128 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: being what will stick in the crawl a little bit, 129 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: as there were opportunities there and ultimately getting back to 130 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: the special teams. The Packers have to sort this out 131 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: because you know they've made adjustments. You give them credit. 132 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: You know they felt like they could do better at 133 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: long snapper. They make the decision. Countra Bradley has had 134 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: three and a half seasons. We're gonna give stephen Wardle 135 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: an opportunity. Wardle has been here for two months. They've 136 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: seen him in practice. We haven't. They have. They felt 137 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: like this was the right time. But you have to 138 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: get these field goal protection issues figured out. You have 139 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: to be able to get those snaps down. You have 140 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: to give Mason Crosby an opportunity to be Mason Crosby. 141 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: They didn't do that, and credit to Marie Straiton, Matt Lafleur. 142 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: They stuck with Amari Rodgers. I think you have to 143 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: see the big picture there with Rogers. You have to 144 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: understand that we are in week nine now week ten. 145 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: They want this young man to be a part of 146 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: this organization, a part of this team, a big, big, 147 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: big time playmaker on both offense and special teams for 148 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: years to come. You want to stick with him and 149 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: ride this thing out. You still have Randall Cobb in 150 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: the background if you want them. But you know it's 151 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: ultimately going to come down to making improvements because the 152 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: thing is Mike. With special teams, there's going to be changed. 153 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: There's going to be guys that go in and out 154 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: of the lineup. You have to be able to maintain 155 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: that core and you have to stay disciplined. Yeah, and 156 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: we'll hear from coach Drayton later in the week in 157 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: terms of in terms of exactly what he felt and 158 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: in his discussions with with Crosby, with the snapper, the holder, 159 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: and and what went wrong. Obviously the protection is an issue, 160 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: is an issue anytime that a kick gets blocked. So 161 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: what exactly went wrong? Um, hopefully we'll find out some more, 162 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: some more information, some more thoughts there later in the week. 163 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: But just obviously very frustrating when when one of your 164 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: three phases plays probably it's best game of the season 165 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: in terms in terms of a start to finish four 166 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: quarter performance, and uh, and the special teams doesn't help you, 167 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: and the offense just doesn't doesn't really ever get going 168 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: until the fourth quarter. Unfortunately, now in that fourth quarter, 169 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: Jordan's Love put together a couple of really nice drives. 170 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: The one ends with an interception on on third down. 171 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: Actually that was one of the rare third downs when 172 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: the Chiefs didn't blitz, they actually dropped and played coverage. 173 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: He still tried to go with the one on one 174 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: opportunity over the top to Davantae Adams down the sideline 175 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: and that gets that gets intercepted. Um. Then the next drive, 176 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: the Packers are able to get a touchdown on the 177 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: fourth down pass to Alan Lazart, a blitzpeeder there the 178 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: balls out of Love's hand quickly, Lizard makes a man 179 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: miss and gets into the end zone. You just you 180 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: just wish, and you can't put any blame on the 181 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: defense here, obviously, But if you could have stopped that 182 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: third and ten right at the end, you know, right 183 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: after the two minute warning, now the Chiefs would have 184 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: punted the Packers back to the ten yard line, Jordan's 185 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: Love would have had no time mounts less than two 186 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: minutes and ninety yards to go for a touchdown. I mean, 187 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: that would have been a that would have been a 188 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: monumental task. But with the rhythm that he was starting 189 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: to find in the fourth quarter. You just you just 190 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: would have liked to have seen him get that opportunity 191 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: to see if maybe he could have pulled it off. 192 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: But really, the one time all day that Patrick Mahomes 193 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: looked like Patrick Mahomes was on that third and ten 194 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: where he scrambles away from the pressure on the blitz. 195 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: The Packers are covering like mad in the back end 196 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: because that play lasted seven, eight, nine seconds whatever it was, 197 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: and Tyreek Hill is able to just get enough clearance 198 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: from Channon Sullivan um and then Adrian NamUs with the 199 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: hit and you know, Hill secures that ball well enough 200 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: so that the ball doesn't come out on the hit, 201 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: and then the Chiefs are able to run out the clock. 202 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: I like the way the Packers lost that game, though, 203 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: Does that if that makes any sense to you, because 204 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: it reminded me a lot of how they finished the 205 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: Arizona game. You don't want to leave any anything left 206 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: in the chamber. They went with the blitz. Credit to them, 207 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: they were able to pick up the blitz and ultimately 208 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, a former m v P quarterback, made a 209 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: play and you can maybe make a case of one 210 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: of the few plays that was made during that game 211 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: being able to find his main target. It is what 212 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: it is. I like the way that Green Bay, though, 213 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: has maintained an aggressive approach. I think that's been a 214 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: change you've seen over the last five six games, and 215 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: the way that guys execute in those moments. And the 216 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: fact is they lost Kenny Clark in the third quarter 217 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: to the back injury. It sounds like, hopefully that won't 218 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: be a long term issue. You lose Eric Stokes during 219 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: pregame warmups to knee injury, so suddenly it doesn't become 220 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: a question of well, do you keep Resseul Douglass out 221 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: there or do you go with the returning Kevin King. 222 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: They needed both of them on the field. They still 223 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: needed Henry Black as the dime linebacker. You know, Chris 224 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,359 Speaker 1: Barnes has arguably the best game of his career, alongside 225 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: DeAndre Campbell, who had another eight plus tackle performance. These 226 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: guys not to say they ran out of gas, because 227 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: that's not the point I'm trying to illustrate, but they 228 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: had to rely on so many guys. Look at the 229 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: defensive line at the end of the game, all that 230 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 1: was left was rookie t J. Slayton, Tyler Lancaster I 231 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: thought played a whale of a ball game who was 232 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: in and out with an injury himself himself and Jack 233 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: Heflin's playing his first NFL game, the undrafted free agent 234 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: out of Iowa. So the Green Bay they fought too 235 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: and nail right to the very end. It didn't work 236 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: out for them, But as Kevin King said after the game, 237 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: they're going to be scary, man. If they can get JR. 238 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: Alexander back here soon, if they can get Zadarius Smith 239 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: back by the end of the season. This defense, with 240 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: the way they're playing, if they can add in their 241 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: best players, now they got something cooking. Yeah. They this 242 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: this defense we've been talking about it. You you wonder 243 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: with the progress the unit has made all the way 244 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: along since a very rough Week one, which is which 245 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: was a rough Week one for the entire team, but 246 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: it certainly was rough for the defense. The progress that's 247 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: been made, it feels like the progress hasn't plateau, not 248 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 1: like the arrow is still pointing up with these guys, 249 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: and when you know that they're not at full strength, 250 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 1: as you mentioned the defensive line, you know, Clark ended 251 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: up leaving the game. King's Ley Kiki was was out 252 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: this game, having gotten a concussion the previous week. Um, 253 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: there's there's still there's still more rising to do the 254 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: way it looks right now, And I made a mistake 255 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, Mike, I want to clear 256 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 1: up now because I said, you know, Devandre Campbell, I 257 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: haven't seen an inside linebacker playing the way he's playing 258 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: right now. No, I did. It was Clay Matthews. It 259 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: was Clay Matthews in the second half of that fourteen season. 260 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: They're different players. I'm not saying Campbell's Matthews. But what 261 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying, though, is that they have a guy who 262 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: can play sideline to sideline. They can keep two linebackers 263 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: on the field, and I think that's really made a 264 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: huge difference with this defense. You don't see Adrian Amos 265 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: having to play as much up at the line of scrimmage. 266 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: Joe Barry really doesn't even play that much dime defense 267 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: to begin with. He's comfortable leaving it with the five 268 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: defensive backs and the two linebackers and a lot of 269 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: passing situations. That ability to be that flexible in the 270 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: middle of the field. I think that's made a huge 271 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: difference with this defense. In addition to the defensive line 272 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: being able to pick up some of the pressure concepts 273 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: without having Zadarius Smith that area, I think is really 274 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: interesting to watch. If they can continue that he that 275 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: incline over the second half of the season, because Mike, 276 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: they finished fourteen really strong after a poor start. If 277 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: you can continue and build onto this in the second 278 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: half the season, the Green Bay Packers are going to 279 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: get the defense they've been looking for for the ten years. Yeah, 280 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: I agree with you. 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Russell Wilson 290 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: is back from his finger surgery. He has missed is 291 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: at three games he missed. The video suggests the that's 292 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: a discussion for but Russell Wilson is back the Sea. 293 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: Seattle will come into Lamb will Field at three and five, 294 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 1: quite frankly fighting for their season. We're now getting their 295 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: quarterback back, and the Packers will kind of be wondering 296 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: all week what exactly is going to happen at quarterback 297 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: because Aaron Rodgers is he will be first eligible to 298 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: come off of the reserve COVID nineteen list on Saturday, 299 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: which would be a ten day absence from when um 300 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: he had his positive test and um if he is 301 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: medically cleared. Matt Lafleur has said that Aaron Rodgers will 302 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: start on Sunday despite not practicing at all last week 303 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: or this week. UM, that he will start if he 304 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: is medically cleared. But Jordan's Love will be taking all 305 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: of the practice reps. It's really a matter of getting 306 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: two quarterbacks prepared for this game. One of them is 307 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: only going to be able to prepare mentally, uh, you know, 308 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: in essence, but the Packers are going to prepare both 309 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and then as you said at the beginning of 310 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: the show, see where the Chips Fall on Saturday with 311 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, as Matt Lafleur said, he's never 312 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: really dealt with anything like this before. I has, right, 313 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: I mean, and being able to have one quarterback in 314 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: the building and one quarterback not and really, as he said, though, 315 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: it is just about preparing both of those guys for 316 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: the same opponent in what the Packers have to do 317 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: offensively to attack that opponent. It's great that you know that, 318 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: you know Jordan's love is going to be in a 319 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: position to contribute, to be able to to have that 320 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: experience last week if called upon in a game that 321 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: I think now the Packers really do need to win, 322 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: not that they didn't have to win on Sunday, but 323 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: this is a team they should beat regardless I think 324 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: of the quarterback just based on how things have gone 325 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: for Seattle this year, and absolutely and when you're coming 326 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: back home, coming back home, coming back home, after being 327 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: on the road four the last five games, you want 328 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: to set the tone again at home because because the 329 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: back half of the schedule now five of the packers 330 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: last eight games are at lambeau Field. This is where 331 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: you want to start. You want to start building and 332 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: making that late season charge without questions, So it'll be 333 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: really just the bigger thing of Okay, where is Aaron Rodgers? 334 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: At what point can he you know, potentially test negative 335 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: this week? Can you get the negative tests apart the 336 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: way you need to for him to be back in 337 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: the building, and if he's is and if he's able 338 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: to be on there on Saturday. As Matt Foor said, 339 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: he's not concerned at all about his ability to step 340 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: in and play. And honestly, Mike, we've seen that with 341 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: some of the injury is in the past, pay through. 342 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna be the biggest issue. The 343 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: question is really just going to be the uncertainty that 344 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: is revolving around this virus, around how you are about 345 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: to prepare a football team. I think from a preparation standpoint, though, 346 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: if he is cleared, if he's back out thing the 347 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: field and Sunday, I expect the same here and Rodgers 348 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: as always. Yeah, I think I think that's what everybody 349 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: certainly will expect, and Matt Lafleur expects that, Otherwise he 350 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't have already declared what he's declared in terms of 351 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: in terms of that starting quarterback situation for Sunday. Big 352 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: picture here west. As I noted earlier, the Packers have 353 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: a three and a half game lead in the NFC 354 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: North over the Vikings a four game lead over the Bears, 355 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: because both of those division rivals lost on late field goals, 356 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: the Vikings in overtime, the Bears on Monday night, um 357 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: a last minute field goal by the Pittsburgh Steelers, and 358 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: some other things quite frankly, went pretty well for Green Bay, 359 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: you know, in terms of on a week that you lose. 360 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys, the Los Angeles Rams also took their 361 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: second losses, and we had seen the previous week before 362 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers went on their bye week, the Buccaneers had 363 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: taken their second loss. So there's only a single solitary 364 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: one lost team left, not only in the NFC but 365 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: in the entire NFL, and that's the Arizona Cardinals. Tip 366 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: your hat to them. They had lost their quarterback, their 367 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 1: number one receiver. They lost their number one running back 368 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: very early in the game against San Francisco, but had 369 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: no trouble with the forty Niners. So the Cardinals are 370 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: eight and one. That's the team that's sitting in the 371 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: catbird seat right now as we get into the second 372 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: half stretch of the season. But it's still all right 373 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: out in front of the Green Bay Packers at seven 374 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: and two and only one game off of the pace 375 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: behind a team that you did beat head to head. Yeah, 376 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: and NFC, I mean one and seven against the a 377 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: f C this weekend, including that game against you know, 378 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: with Chicago and Pittsburgh. Isn't that something I'm sorry to 379 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: interrupt you, but when we're talking a couple of weeks 380 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: that were talking about all these one lost teams in 381 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: the NFC, right and the a f C has everybody 382 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: with two or three or more losses, and then you 383 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,719 Speaker 1: have a week like this where suddenly everybody in the 384 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: a f C is beating everybody in the NFC. It's 385 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: just the way this league goes. The only thing that 386 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: didn't go in Green Bay's direction was San Francisco falling 387 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: against Arizona. And to be honest with you, we've talked 388 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: about Matt the Flora divert deservingly so, Mike McCarthy, Sean Payton, 389 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: the job he's done in New Orleans. We probably do 390 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: need to start giving some respect to Cliff Kingsbury because 391 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 1: to run the ball thirty nine times, everybody says they 392 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: don't run the football. Colt McCoy, I really thought that 393 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: was what the table setter was for him having the 394 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: game that he did. And they lost Chase Edmonds. I 395 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: believe it was in the first quarter in that game, 396 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: was it not? I mean so yeah, so, I mean 397 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: they had to make some some heavy adjustments and prevailed. 398 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: I think that's the sign of a winning football team, 399 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 1: a team that is not going away down the stretch here. 400 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: But Green Bay, man that you look at the division 401 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: right now, regardless, and you and I could sit here 402 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: for another ten minutes. Unfortunately, have to go get my glasses, 403 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 1: but my new glasses. I gotta go pick him up. 404 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: I gotta let West go here. But you know, first 405 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: Chicago lost. I mean, it's a terrible situation and how 406 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: they lost that game, but they lost. It's the facts, 407 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: and they needed twenty one points in the fourth quarter 408 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,719 Speaker 1: to get back in it. But the Green Bay Packers 409 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: are seven and two. The rest of the division combined 410 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: has six wins. Six wins right now, Yeah, I mean, 411 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: I think that's right. That's what matters. The Packers need 412 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: to keep picking up w's nine wins might win the division, 413 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: and if they're able to do that, then you start 414 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: talking about postseason. It was a tough weekend. It was 415 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 1: a weekend of adversity. It was one of the longest 416 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: weeks you and I have had covering the football team. 417 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: But you can't let that linger into week ten, Mike, 418 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: because realistically it didn't hurt the Packers that much. No, 419 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: it really didn't. It really didn't. And we will move 420 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: forward into week ten. Talk more about the Seattle Seahawks 421 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: on our next show, and you'll have your new glass 422 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: for our next show. So with that, we're calling it 423 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure 424 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: to follow all of our coverage of the team. Will 425 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: have everything for you all week long on Packers dot 426 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 1: Com for West. I'm Mike. Thanks tuning in everybody. We'll 427 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: see you next time. M HM.