1 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: Welcome inside with the Insiders. This is part two of 2 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: the Monday YouTube and podcast edition. That's n Rapport. That 3 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: is Mike carrat Fullo. That is Judy Batista. I am 4 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: Tom Pellicero here in Green Bay, Wisconsin, where we've got 5 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: Packers Saints wrapping up Week sixteen and then in a 6 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: very twenty twenty four twist, a Week seventeen starts. Two 7 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: days after that, we got two NFL Christmas Day games 8 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: live on Netflix December twenty fifth, starting at one pm Eastern. 9 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 1: It's Chiefs and Steelers, followed by Ravens and Texans at 10 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: four thirty pm Eastern. So after the Stockings and Beyonce, 11 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: which Lamar said he's gonna want to watch at halftime 12 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: of the game. Not totally certain that's what occur. 13 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: Was it? 14 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: If you want to do it? 15 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 3: Was it Brandon McManus who watched the halftime show. 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: And Evan McPherson. Evan McPherson and the Bengals specialists came out. Now, 17 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: the specialists are always the first ones on the field, 18 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: so makes sense they'd be out there early. That was 19 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: the LA Super Bowl with with Snoop and fifty cent 20 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: and that's a good halftime show and kender Klamar, who 21 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: is now the right Kenner Lamar was part of that 22 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: believe so was he not? 23 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 24 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: I think he was. 25 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 4: Is this the LA super got the LA super Bowl. 26 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: Fifty fifty cent was? I'll google it later? Anyway? AFC 27 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: playoff picture, Judy? What more do we know that we 28 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: didn't know going into the Sunday Week sixteen. 29 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 4: Well, it looks like the Chiefs are going to be 30 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 4: the top seed. That's number one, which is big because 31 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 4: they will then have the week off and the Patrick 32 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 4: Mahomes ankle injury. Is it really even an injury the 33 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 4: way he was moving for part of that game, I 34 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 4: don't know, but it'll give him extra time to rest 35 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 4: and just in general get that team as healthy as 36 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 4: they can possibly be. 37 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: Part of it. Sorry, and a halftime show Eminem, Mary J. Blige, 38 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar featuring fifty cent and that Anderson dot Park 39 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 1: or whatever you pronounced that. I don't remember him to 40 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: be there anyway, Go on, jud. 41 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 4: That's a group anyway, Okay, I don't. 42 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 3: Know they did it. They did a tiny desk that 43 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: was good, right, that's the one. 44 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 4: I don't know uh so, okay, you know, we should 45 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 4: talk about Josh Allen's injured hands, both of them now. 46 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 4: I guess I don't know, although yesterday it sounded more 47 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 4: like the right hand situation that he kept shaking out 48 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 4: in the game, like he landed on his obow or 49 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 4: shoulder and that numb and that's okay, right, but he 50 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 4: kept going like this. Anyway, they barely beat it. I mean, 51 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 4: they didn't look particularly great. I feel like teams sometimes 52 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 4: have games like that where they just sort of ease 53 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 4: off the gas and maybe don't have their best performance 54 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 4: and then they wrap it up again. So I'm not 55 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 4: tremendously concerned about how they looked against the Patriots. Credit 56 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 4: to the Patriots for playing hard, I thought, in a 57 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 4: completely meaningless game. But certainly it looks it's shaping up 58 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 4: to be the Chiefs as the one seed and the 59 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 4: Bills as the two seed, and then to me, the 60 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 4: most interesting game is going to be the Broncos Bengals game, 61 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 4: which is a Saturday afternoon game, because the Broncos have 62 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 4: a chance to clinch their playoff spot, but the Bengals, 63 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 4: you know who. I think we all feel like it's 64 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 4: a shame if they miss the playoffs. The way that 65 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 4: Chase and Burrow have been playing, I mean, the Bengals 66 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 4: have a chance to really throw a wrench into things 67 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 4: here if they win that game. There are three teams 68 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 4: that are still chasing the Broncos for what would be 69 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 4: the final spot, Colts and Dolphins and the Bengals, all 70 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 4: of whom won. So if the Bengals can beat the Broncos, 71 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 4: that really ramps up the pressure on the Broncos going 72 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 4: into Week eight. 73 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 5: Team So if the Broncos and Blake you can correct me, 74 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 5: So if the Broncos lose, let's so, let's say the 75 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 5: Bengals beat the Broncos on Saturday, then they have to win. 76 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 5: The Broncos have to lose again for them to get in. 77 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 3: Is that right? 78 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 4: And others would happen to they need yeah, and something 79 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 4: else has to else. 80 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: The Colts have to lose. 81 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 4: I think the Colts have to lose for the Bengals 82 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 4: to be the team. 83 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 5: This is so interesting that everyone says the same thing. 84 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 5: It's like, oh, all right, okay, so Broncos just need 85 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 5: to win one of their final two games. 86 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 4: But they played the Chiefs in the final game. 87 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: Who charges in the Broncos are both nine and six. 88 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: The other three teams Indy Miamians is now you're seven 89 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: and eight, so it's literally you have to it's got 90 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: to be a lose to win two situation for any 91 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: of those teams to get up, and then you're into 92 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: the Matrix Tiger. 93 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 5: So if the Chiefs lose Wednesday, then they probably play 94 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 5: everyone in Week eighteen. 95 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 3: If they win, they probably rest. 96 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 2: Potentially, yes, if in India gets in ahead of Cincinnat. 97 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: If Indian Cincinnati went out and the Broncos lose out, 98 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: India gets in. So the Bengals still need the cold 99 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: to lose another game. The Colts have the Jaguars the 100 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 2: last week of the season, and they have the Giants 101 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: in Week seventeen. Yikes, Oh, Dolphins have to lose too. 102 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: Wow. 103 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 5: And and of course everyone's like, don't let the Bengals 104 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 5: get in because if they do, then then it's really 105 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 5: going to be trouble, which I can't even laugh at 106 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 5: because like Joe Burrow has been like silly. So I 107 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 5: also would not want to face the Bengals if I 108 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 5: was the team. But if I was a team myself. 109 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 2: Though, and if they don't make it because of one game, 110 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: like think of how many games along the way. They're 111 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: just gonna look at it and just go it was 112 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: all there for Week one? 113 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, what Dowboys game was as ridiculous 114 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 5: as any of them and they ended up winning that one. 115 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 2: As well, you're gonna sit I mean they had so 116 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 2: many get The Ravens game at home was was a 117 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: tantalizing loss Week one against the Patriots, one of those 118 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: like how did that even happen? Type of games, kind 119 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: of like when Jacksonville won one game the entire season 120 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, and it was Week one 121 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: against the Colts. So it's it's it's going to be 122 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: incredibly frustrating if the Bengals wind up missing it by 123 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: one game and the Weas. 124 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 4: And Steelers are sorry and the Ravens and Steelers are 125 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 4: still battling it out for the North. 126 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: Yes, a lot. There is a lot on the line 127 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: for the Steelers in that game on Christmas Day as well. 128 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: So a couple of good ones live on Netflix one 129 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: dm eastern time, that's what it all kicks, followed by 130 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: another game at four thirty eastern will all be on Netflix. 131 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: The Texans have already clinched the division. They're back in 132 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Also had a significant loss yesterday. Take Dell, who, 133 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: let's remind ourselves, caught the ball while dislocating his knee, 134 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: tearing his acl suffering just a really ugly injury that 135 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: left CJ. Stroud and other teammates and tears caught the 136 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: ball obviously run for the season though now he and 137 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: the Texans it's not a you know, quite apples apples comparison, 138 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: but they lost a great deal of speed. They did 139 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: add some speed today as well. 140 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 5: All right, so the tank Tel injury first, that is terrible. 141 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 5: I mean, and Tank Tell seems like a great guy. 142 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 5: You could tell, I mean him and c just strouded boys. 143 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 5: You could tell from Stroud's reaction like this is really bad. 144 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 5: And you could watch on the field as the receiver 145 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 5: whose name escapes me right now tells him don't move 146 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 5: because he can tell that the knee is in the 147 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 5: wrong place, Like that is gotta be one of the 148 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 5: scariest things of like just stay there because something bad 149 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 5: will happen if you move. It is a dislocated knee, which, 150 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 5: as we've learned over the course of the last couple days, 151 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 5: is far worse than a dissocated kneecap. Disocated kneecap as 152 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 5: what Patrick Mahomes did on National TV a couple of 153 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 5: years ago that was kind of bad. Dissocated knee as 154 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 5: far worse, multi ligament ACL torn. You know, it's December, 155 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 5: it's late December. We don't even know if he's gonna 156 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 5: be able to play next year, just given the timeline 157 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 5: it is, you know, nine months at the very least 158 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 5: for an ACL plus all the additional damage like this 159 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 5: is this is like honestly pretty heartbreaking for Tank Dell. 160 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: And and that is part of it. 161 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 5: And he's gonna have surgery and hopefully come back good 162 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 5: as new, but it is going to take a while. 163 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 5: And then the Texans just claimed Deontay Johnson, the former 164 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 5: Ravens receiver who is also very talented, who somehow, in 165 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 5: one of the most ridiculous seasons of all time, could 166 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 5: end up as a very key player on one of 167 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 5: the better teams in the AFC. He is going to 168 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 5: fly to Texas to Houston tonight. There is legitimately a 169 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 5: possibility that he plays on Wednesday. He's gonna do something 170 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 5: in a big game where we all are gonna end 171 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 5: up talking about him. Never mind that he was traded 172 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 5: from one of the NFL's worst teams, the Panthers. He 173 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 5: was traded to the Ravens. Who is gonna play Wednesday? 174 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 5: Refused to go in the game, and then was cut 175 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 5: and now lands on a playoff team with chance to 176 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 5: make some really big plays. I don't know that there's 177 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 5: a lot of precedent for this, but it's all gonna 178 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 5: play out, and it's. 179 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 3: Going to be very strange when it does. 180 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: Mike, I think the uh. 181 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: I think that the Deontay Johnson Baltimore relationship got off 182 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 2: to a terrible start and just never was on the 183 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: right path. They traded for him, they didn't give up 184 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: much for him. It was basically a pick swap where 185 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 2: they just moved. If he counted compics, I think it 186 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: was like twenty picks that they moved. And they had 187 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: known the history of him, having seen him in the division, 188 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: and there was always a little bit of extra curricular 189 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: with him with with with the Steelers. But things were 190 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 2: going well when he was getting fed the football, when 191 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: Ben Roethlisberger was throwing him, was throwing the ball sixty 192 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: times a game. Everybody's gonna get the ball a bunch. 193 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 2: So I think that that worked out well. The Ravens 194 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 2: kind of brought him in and realized and tried to 195 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 2: get him to realize, Hey, you're a part of something 196 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: here where the ball's got to go to a lot 197 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: of different places. And you know, basically, I don't I 198 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 2: don't want to necessarily try to paraphrase the conversation, but 199 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: it was like, Hey, here's what we're expecting here, and 200 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: I don't think it really started well for Deontay Johnson. 201 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 2: And from what I gather, after every game Lamar Jackson 202 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 2: would be talking to him by his locker, even games 203 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: that they won, when he didn't necessarily see the football. 204 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: So in this situation with the Texans down several wide 205 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 2: receivers here if you count Stefan Diggs as well and 206 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: and Tank Dell, he may see the football bunch and now, 207 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 2: having seen it none in Baltimore, seeing it just a 208 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 2: little bit in Houston may get his spirits back up. 209 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 2: I think he understands that he screwed up Carolina, that 210 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 2: that was the best chance for him on a team 211 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 2: that needed thing pieces for the future, that if he 212 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: had performed well, I don't know, but I think you 213 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: realized that that was his best chance, that was his 214 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: best chance to cash in. And now it's almost like, 215 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 2: if you're gonna set yourself up for a free agency 216 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 2: free agent payday, it's not gonna be what it was, 217 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: but at least maybe now if you perform with the Texans, 218 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: like okay, you're re establishing value here. So there is 219 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: motivation for Deontay Johnson here to perform. 220 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: Well, Judy. 221 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 4: I just want to see if the Texans can collect themselves, 222 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 4: because they were, you know, they looked they obviously looked 223 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 4: rattled after the Tank Dell injury, and then it looked 224 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 4: like they were struggling to sort of you know, get 225 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 4: back and focus on the game at hand, and so 226 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 4: I guess I need to see them. I hate to 227 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 4: say it this way, but like they I need to 228 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 4: see them put the blinders on and like they're in 229 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 4: the playoffs, like they're a playoff team. They they haven't played, 230 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 4: certainly they haven't played this year the on offense, at 231 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 4: least the way we expected them to coming off of 232 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 4: the way they played last season, and so you sort 233 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 4: of need to I want to see them like get 234 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 4: into gear here as they get into the postseason, otherwise 235 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 4: it's going to be a really short trip. 236 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: So the matchups. Again, we did this in part one 237 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: of the podcasts, which you can find. Doesn't matter what 238 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 1: lady you listen to it finish this one. Get back 239 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: to part one. We did the NFC matchups right now 240 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: with two weeks to go. These would be the wild 241 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: card playoff matchups. Obviously, the Chiefs would be the one seed, 242 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: and barring consecutive losses here, they're going to end up 243 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: being the number one seed. The Broncos would go to Buffalo, 244 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: which is that's a handful for Denver going on the 245 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: road in that one. The Chargers would go to Pittsburgh, 246 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: which is a rematch of an early season game right 247 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: after Justin Herbert injured his ankle and it seemed like 248 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: there's no way this guy's going to play, and then 249 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,599 Speaker 1: he did, and he was really immobile and in a 250 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: lot of pain. It got better, but you'd see them 251 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: close to full strength, and then you would have the 252 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: Deontay Johnson revenge game. I guess we'll call it a 253 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: revenge game. Ravens Texans that would be the other one, 254 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: and that'd be a Ravens team that you would have 255 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: to think going into that would be favored on the 256 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: road to beat the Houston Texans. Of the other three teams. 257 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: We talked so much about the Bengals, you know, do 258 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: you fear Miami. They'd probably have to go to a 259 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: cold weather, outdoor type of a game. Lets its Houston, 260 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: but they're not gonna end up at the five seed. 261 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: If they got in to be the seven, they probably 262 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: have to go to Buffalo, where historically that's not a 263 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: place that they played particularly well. You got the Colt 264 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: who there's something there with the Colts, like Anthony Richardson. 265 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: It's just kind of weeked week play to play, you 266 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: don't quite know, but he played pretty well, it seemed 267 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: like in that game. And Jonathan Taylor seeing bound in determined, I. 268 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 5: Was everything every yard that game was on the ground 269 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 5: on the first except for. 270 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: The first touchdown that Jonathan Taylor scored, and you see 271 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: him for a second right at the goal line start 272 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: to put his arm to the side and then like 273 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: immediately gathered in with both arms like I have to 274 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: imagine that's gonna be. That's gonna be teaching tape around 275 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: the league moving forward here in terms of the you know, 276 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: what are you doing type of a thing here, But 277 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: you've got, you know, Judy, one of the running themes 278 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: here is you got a lot of young quarterbacks who 279 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: are in the mix either to get into the playoffs 280 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: in the AFC or they're already have clinched spots. Here 281 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: remains who's the biggest threat right now to the Chiefs? 282 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: As simple as it's the Bills based on they've played recently. 283 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: Because that was a bumpy effort by the Bills yesterday 284 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: against the not good Patriots team, I feel. 285 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 4: Like the answer has changed a few times during the season. 286 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 4: I think early in the season, everybody it was the Ravens, right, 287 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 4: it looked like the Ravens were the team that could 288 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 4: take down the Chiefs, most likely to take down the Chiefs. 289 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 4: Then for a long stretch it was the Bills. When 290 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 4: the Bills were playing very very well. Certainly when the 291 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 4: Bills knocked off the Lions, Okay, they're the pre eminent threat. 292 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 4: I mean yesterday was the bumpy is nice? I mean 293 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 4: like for a while there I thought like, are they 294 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 4: going to lose this game? Like what is going on here? Again? 295 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 4: I Mean I sort of feel like, is it just 296 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 4: sort of that kind of mental lap that happens when 297 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 4: a superior team is playing, you know, is playing a 298 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 4: team that's down a level and you sort of play 299 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 4: down to the level. Is that what happened to them? 300 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 4: And everything is going to be fine, But certainly you think, 301 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 4: like I thought the Ravens, the way the Ravens handled 302 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 4: the Steelers, you know, moves the Ravens up there again 303 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 4: that I think that they have the potential to go 304 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 4: toe to toe with the Chiefs and knock them off. 305 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 4: I know the Chiefs have lived on the edge all 306 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 4: season long. I know every game we say like, oh, 307 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 4: they can't keep playing like this, they can't keep except 308 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 4: they do and they're still winning. And now we're getting 309 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 4: into the part of the year where they you know, 310 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 4: they do this every I mean we've seen this done 311 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 4: now every year with them, where like they gather themselves 312 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 4: and they get better as they get to January. You know, 313 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 4: I don't I'm not sure anybody is going to knock 314 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 4: them off, Let's put it that way. As bad as 315 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 4: they look sometimes, I'm still not sure they're ever going 316 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 4: to lose. 317 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 2: I was on Good Morning Football in early November and 318 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 2: we had the same question it was the biggest threat 319 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 2: to the Chiefs. And at the time, I answered the 320 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 2: Steelers And at the time, I believed that what's going on, 321 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: they're going to their backsliding and I didn't expect that. 322 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: I expected him to get better as the season went on. 323 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 2: I think Russell Wilson, you know, he had a he 324 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: had a bad moment the other day on that pick six. 325 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 2: Our buddy Marlin Humphrey, who every time we see him, Uh, 326 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 2: he loves the network. He loves us again, he loves 327 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 2: his bigs. 328 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 3: That was his first pick six in his whole career. 329 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: That's crazy, crazy him. Yeah. Uh. And and listen to 330 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 2: a couple of plays by some of his target tight ends. Uh, 331 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: cordial partis have made to play the Micole McCole pruitt 332 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: made a play like they're bailing him out too. He's 333 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 2: just he's he's backsliding. I don't know if if all 334 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 2: of a sudden, some defenses are throwing him some things 335 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 2: that uh that maybe he hasn't seen, or or or 336 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 2: figuring out ways to make him less effective. Now. George 337 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 2: Pickens not being involved obviously on on the field is 338 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: a huge part of it. 339 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: Uh. 340 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 2: Sounds like there's optimism that he's working his way back here. 341 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: That's a I mean, his his value that the team 342 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 2: has been magnified the last couple of weeks. So I 343 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 2: just I'm I hope that within the next two weeks 344 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 2: I'll say, all right, I still believe it. The Steelers 345 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: can still be that threat to the Chiefs. We shall see. 346 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 2: They've they've got to come back here. 347 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: On the other side of things, the not a threat 348 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: to do anything in the postseason. The Giants, by virtue 349 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: of the Raiders winning a game yesterday, now control their 350 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: path to the number one pick. Just lose two more 351 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: games and they can go out and get the guy 352 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: that I know every Giants fan has been waiting for 353 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: since about a year after Daniel Joneses drafted, which is, 354 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 1: when are you going to go and get the next 355 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. It was interesting, Judy watching some of the 356 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: reporting out of the Raiders locker room that after a 357 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: win that what possibly cost them the chance to pick 358 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: whatever quarterback they want. Mark Davis is in there, high 359 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: five and players and saying, way to fight. How do 360 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: the Giants feel right now? There's there's airplanes flying over 361 00:17:56,280 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: with fire. Everybody signs they're non competitive, and a lot 362 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: of these games they're also playing with a different backup 363 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: quarterback every week. How do they feel in that building? 364 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: For as long as you've covered Judy, the Giants organization, 365 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: from John Marris, Steve people for the decision makers, how 366 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: do they feel right now? 367 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 4: Well? I think just frustrated by the futility. The fact 368 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 4: that they're non competitive in some of these games is 369 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 4: just embarrassing to them and just maddening. You know, we've 370 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 4: talked about this, but when John Marra said I don't 371 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 4: anticipate making changes in mid October, they haven't won a 372 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 4: game since then, Like, there's no way they thought that 373 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 4: this season was going to go down like this. I 374 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 4: don't know if they thought they were going to the 375 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 4: playoffs this year. I remember John marriseying to me before 376 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 4: the season, we got to win some games, like, there's 377 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 4: no chance that he thought this was a two win 378 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 4: team at that point. He probably didn't. I don't know 379 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 4: if he thought it was a twelve win team, but 380 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 4: he certainly didn't think it was a two win team. 381 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 4: And not only are they a two win team, but 382 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 4: as you pointed out, like some of the games are 383 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 4: just there. They are completely outclassed, and they are they 384 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 4: are non competitive. It's embarrassing to them. You know, this 385 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 4: is their hundredth year, right, the hundredth anniversary. All of 386 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 4: these special things were done to celebrate that, and then 387 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 4: to have just like such a clunker and all those 388 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 4: empty seats like very bad. And he, Mike can tell 389 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 4: you like John Marra feels all of this very personally, 390 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 4: Like he remembers when planes circled over the old stadium 391 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 4: when his dad was alive, So all of that kind 392 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 4: of stuff affects him. 393 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the right message if you want to get 394 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: through that. I mean, I'm right, I'm not condoning it, 395 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 2: but that's the way to get through is pull on nostalgia. 396 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 2: And he remember the era of Wellington, don't. I'm gonna 397 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 2: talk giants, so keep that up. Don't don't have to 398 00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: change it. But I want to go back to the 399 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 2: Raiders thing real quick, just because I thought about the 400 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: difference between the scene the Cardinals in two eighteen. I 401 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,239 Speaker 2: want to say Steve Wilks is the coach. They're two 402 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 2: and nine, they go into Lambeau, they upset the Packers. 403 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 2: The coaching staff play everybody's fired up. Steve Kaime, the 404 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 2: general manager at the time, Michael Bidwell, the owner, were 405 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 2: miserable in the elevator, I was told, and in the 406 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 2: postgame locker room because they wanted the number one overall pick. 407 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 2: They wanted Kyler Murray and it's like they just screwed 408 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: it up. So they have Mark Davis the opposite reaction 409 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: of that, because I remember the Cardinals coach coaching staff 410 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 2: at the time saying, well, we're done. We know that, 411 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 2: like we know we're out of here. They're upset at 412 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 2: us for winning the game. Mark Davis doing the opposite 413 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 2: makes it interesting to me. As for the Giants, it's 414 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 2: Ian and I. We talked about this, the whole idea 415 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 2: of Joe Shane and Brian Dable not being a package deal, 416 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 2: which we talked about and then was reported or written 417 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 2: by Paul Schwartz in the New York Post, which is 418 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: kind of along the lines and guilty, like coming into 419 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 2: the season, Joe Shane comes from buff brings Brian Dable 420 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 2: with him, cool package deal, like that's the way, and 421 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 2: then it was all of a sudden, the conversation started 422 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 2: to change, and know, these guys are going to be 423 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: evaluated independently, so Brian Dabole now needs to be able 424 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 2: to show that he's still got the chops that won 425 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: him the Coach of the Year a couple of years ago. 426 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 2: Joe Shane and his personnel staff have been all over 427 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 2: the place scouting left and right. They were at Colorado 428 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 2: when they were practicing to go see Sha Door Sanders. 429 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: The Giants are sending them on these trips. I mean, 430 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 2: it's not to say they couldn't all at the end 431 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 2: of the season, say you know, but certainly letting them 432 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 2: put the legwork already into who is going to be 433 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 2: the choice at number one or whatever it winds up being. 434 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 2: I have to take this call. Somebody else talked, I'll talk. 435 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 3: Because I have two thoughts. 436 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 5: One, the Raiders thing with Mark Davis being so excited 437 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 5: about a win that really hurt their chances to gain 438 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 5: the number one overall pick is really a prevalent thing 439 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 5: in the NFL, and I know it drives fans crazy 440 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 5: or they just don't believe it, but guys want to win, 441 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 5: like they just want to win, and there really is 442 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 5: the thought of like I'll figure out the quarterback after 443 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 5: the year. I just want the feeling of winning games 444 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 5: because it's so hard to go through the season and 445 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 5: it's so taxing, you just want to freaking win one game. 446 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 3: And if the. 447 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 5: Raiders definitely hurt themselves by winning, except you could also 448 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 5: argue that you have to learn to win, you have 449 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 5: to build that culture. 450 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 3: So will they get a lower ranked quarterback? Probably now? Probably, 451 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 3: But did the guys in the locker room, the other 452 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 3: fifty two guys learn about how to win or did 453 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 3: they see the rewards of their work? Or how many 454 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 3: rookies and they're playing a million of them, how many 455 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 3: rookies got the benefit of just winning? And then like historically, 456 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 3: is there that maative difference between like the number one 457 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 3: quarterback and the number like three? 458 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: It's about though, it's about maybe not well, I mean, 459 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: over the last two drafts, you would say that early 460 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: returns are that c. J. Stroud has worked out better 461 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: than Bryce Young to this point and Jane Danez where. 462 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 3: Everyone thought the Texans screwed themselves same thing. 463 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: Well, I mean they were loving got fired I think 464 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: about ten seconds after the plane landed. But yes, I 465 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: mean there's a history of this. It's you also have 466 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: to think about, all right, Yeah, everybody wants to win. 467 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: This is why you could. You can tank a season, 468 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: you cannot tank a game. You could put together a 469 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: roster that is bad enough and devoid at certain positions 470 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: and trade people away and play young guys. You should 471 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: take the season. But every player and coach involved is 472 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: going to be trying to win those games. They don't 473 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: tank the actual games themselves. And so it's about the 474 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: cachet of drafting number one. It's about having the optionality 475 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: of being at number one and being able to make 476 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: the decision when you when you're drafting number two, all 477 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you take it out of your hands, 478 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, do things go different with the 479 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: Jets if they don't win a meaningless late season game 480 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: and the Jaguars take Trevor Lawrence and they end up 481 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: with Zach Wilson, Maybe, you know. But I mean, the 482 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: Jaguars are the three win team right now too, and 483 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: they've got Trevor Lawrence. There's there's a lot that goes 484 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: into it here, but there's still different ways that this 485 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: can go down the stretch. The Giants do look like 486 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: a bad enough team that they're bad enough to lose 487 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: two more games, here down the stretch. 488 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 4: The way they looked yesterday, it's hard to imagine them 489 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 4: winning a game, right, especially against teams that have something 490 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 4: on the line when they play them. 491 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: On the other hand, you've got teams like the one 492 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: I'm going to see here shortly over at lambeau Field is. 493 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've known since getting darker in 494 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: the room. The sun has now gone down. It's probably 495 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: dropped to twenty degrees outside my window since we started this. 496 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: I've got I got the long underwear in the park 497 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: and everything. Or watch the Saints. The Saints are still 498 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: played hard. They're really going after it for Darren Razzy. 499 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: They don't have I mean, their whole offensive line got 500 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: hurt early in the season. No a Lave, no Raschid 501 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: s Now, no Alphad Kamara. They're starting, you know, they 502 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: started three different quarterbacks. Everything okay with there, Judy, Everything's fine. 503 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: Do you hear the Yeah, there's nobody. 504 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 4: In the city. There's literally nobody in the city this week, right, 505 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 4: like empty, except. 506 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 3: Apparently there's getting arrested there. 507 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, or there's some people taking advantage 508 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: of if there's nobody around. But the Saints are are 509 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: going hard. This is a you know, the quote unquote 510 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: classic trap game situation for the Packers who listen to 511 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: Green Bay. They still need to win. They're winning in 512 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: to get in the playoffs. They still need to win 513 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: one of these last three games. This would be a 514 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: good one to take care of business. But you also 515 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: can understand it's like, all right, you know you might 516 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: you might take a team like this lately. So I 517 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: know a big part of Matt Lafleuor's message through the 518 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: course this week was foot on the gas, like, you know, 519 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: the goal is not just getting the playoffs, goal is 520 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: to go and win a championship. You do that by 521 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,239 Speaker 1: taking care of, uh, these lesser opponents. A couple of 522 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: injury updates for that game. Luke Musgrave, their tight end, 523 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: is was activated earlier today off of injured reserve, So 524 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: he's gonna play. It's gonna be pretty limited, maybe like 525 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: fifteen snaps for him. He had a crazy injury. I mean, 526 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 1: like it was a bad ankle injury that he had 527 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: surgery on back in October. And that follows last season 528 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: when he had an internal injury. So he's had a 529 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: battle back from a lot of stuff. But with Tucker 530 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: Craft's emergence and now you can roll out another dude 531 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: who's even bigger on the offense. It just gives that 532 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: many more options to them. A surprise for tonight cornerback 533 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: Jy R. Alexander, who's played I think ten snaps since 534 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: October because of what the team's been calling a knee 535 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: injury full participant every day this week, I am told 536 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: he is out. He is not going to play tonight 537 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: despite taking the normal practice reps. You just meat that, yeah, 538 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: I will. I wanted to say it here first. He 539 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: just doesn't look like himself and so they're going to 540 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: reevaluate it next week. You talk about one of the 541 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: highest paid cornerbacks in the NFL full participant practice and 542 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: is essentially a healthy scratch. So that is gonna be 543 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: one to keep an eye on. Obviously, again, the Saints 544 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: are down to the Saints are way down the list 545 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: in terms of who they're throwing the football to. But 546 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: next week you've got the Vikings. Next week you've got 547 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson, who you remember earlier in the season, Jerry 548 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: Alexander had a lot of things to say about Justin 549 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: Jefferson and then didn't play in the game. That's a 550 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: game where you're gonna need all your horses and we'll 551 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: see whether or not he potentially can get out there. 552 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: So Landbouwfield, that's where I will be. The Insiders is 553 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: back starting Christmas Eve. That's tomorrow. Sorry, I'm all I'm 554 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,719 Speaker 1: trying to figure out, like what day I'm flying. I'm 555 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: flying home tomorrow morning. I'll be hosting The Insiders with 556 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: you guys, Christmas Eve edition. So everybody wear your funnest 557 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 1: sweater or sport coat or whatever you got. Let's get 558 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: in the holiday spirited there and then you check out 559 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: the podcast of this five days a week. So thank 560 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: you very much to everybody. If this is the last 561 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: time that we see you prior to the holiday, because 562 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: you're traveling, you got other obligations. Who want to talk 563 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: to your family members. Thank you for being here. Thank 564 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: you for being on this journey with us the entire season. 565 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: So for Judy Batissa, Mike Garafalo, Ian Rappaport, I am 566 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: Tom Telbasio. We will see you