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Speaker 1: I listen to The Black Guy Who Tips Podcast because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen. Hey, welcome to another episode of The

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Speaker 1: Black Guy Who Tolls Podcast. I'm your host, Rod joined

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Speaker 1: us always one of my co hosts Kiar and we're

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Speaker 1: live on a Monday evening, ready to give you some podcasting.

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Speaker 1: The official weapon of the show is it takes unofficial sports.

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Speaker 1: I'm out a bullet ball extreme and we are not alone.

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Speaker 1: We have a very special guest. She probably saw in

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Speaker 1: the show notes or somehow in the title or something.

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Speaker 1: We're doing this in the past, you guys don't. We

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Speaker 1: don't know what we did in the future. But we

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Speaker 1: have my homegirl writer for the President's show, Reil The

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Speaker 1: Good Place, a Black Lady Sketch Show Emmy nominated, a

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Speaker 1: Black Lady Skates Show actor, comedian, serial podcast hosts. I

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Speaker 1: followed this woman from three of Negroes A come on

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Speaker 1: so Massandrew was Marsha and ray yandicuetty fans.

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Speaker 2: We have been now this day one.

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Speaker 1: That one podcast. That woman she don't talk to no

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Speaker 1: more and Dizzy is being at the table. It's my girl,

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Speaker 1: ray Sonny, what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Hi?

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Speaker 4: Good to talk to you on that serial podcast.

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Speaker 1: Listen. I mean the thing is if at first you don't,

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Speaker 1: you know, like move on. I think it's a strength

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Speaker 1: because my thing is like listen if if it's not

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Speaker 1: working or just it comes to a time like that's

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Speaker 1: I'm big on that. Actually you wouldn't know it from

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Speaker 1: this podcast because you know it's attached to my marriage.

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Speaker 1: But but I'm like, it's been other stuff where I

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Speaker 1: talk to like somebody, I'm just like, yeah, we shouldn't

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Speaker 1: do this anymore. They're like why. I'm like, don't no,

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Speaker 1: it's just not like it was hitting. The time is

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Speaker 1: over and we're moving on. Yes, but all the podcasts

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Speaker 1: have been good, and that's really what the that's really

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Speaker 1: what the hard part is. It's not like they were bad.

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Speaker 1: It's like, oh, looks, yes, I'm.

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Speaker 5: Just sad today. No longer there. But it's one of

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Speaker 5: those things where it's like, oh, something new. It's like,

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Speaker 5: oh skin.

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Speaker 2: So every time I get re excited.

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Speaker 3: I will say I will say that the first couple

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Speaker 3: of podcasts broke up because the friendships broke up, right

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Speaker 3: or you know, but the last few is just that, oh,

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Speaker 3: our deal with whatever network ended, so this one I

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Speaker 4: It's my busiest at the table. It's a solo.

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Speaker 3: Podcast, so if it stops going, it's because I hate myself.

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Speaker 2: I broke up with me.

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Speaker 4: I broke up with me.

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Speaker 1: I was listening to the latest episode, and it sounds

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Speaker 1: like you've already passed one podcast milestone, which is losing

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Speaker 1: an episode you recorded, re record it.

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Speaker 4: Come on, my god, you have no idea.

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Speaker 3: So the thing is, I tried to what I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to do is edit right, because I'm cheap, I don't

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Speaker 4: The podcast or whatever.

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Speaker 3: So I had like broken the podcast in two so

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Speaker 3: that I could then combine it in Audacity, and then

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Speaker 3: upload the first track completely deleted it by accident, and

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Speaker 3: I literally had to like take a break for an hour,

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Speaker 3: gonna beat me up, you know what I'm saying, Like

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Speaker 3: I was gonna knock me in the head.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna do something. I was gonna like throw myself.

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Speaker 4: I was so angry. I was so angry.

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Speaker 3: But then it ended up being okay because then I

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Speaker 4: Take, and yes, audacity do be crashing. Somebody said it up.

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Speaker 1: We've of course lost podcasts before. We haven't lost on

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Speaker 1: a long time now because of all the backups we had.

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Speaker 2: I tell any about it back up with a backup

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Speaker 1: But before when we lost podcast, there is that moment

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Speaker 1: because it's really only you that can. It's either you

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Speaker 1: it's your equipment, it's literally because of some ship you did.

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Speaker 1: There was three episodes before this way blinked in and

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Speaker 4: But yeah, so you didn't you say you just.

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Speaker 3: Re recorded with all that anger, and your spirit didn't.

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Speaker 3: You didn't let it go nowhere.

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Speaker 1: So you're doing that so you know, my I don't

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Speaker 1: This was before we could record our own This is

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Speaker 1: so like we were just like, if you're live, we

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you about to get some remix on these jokes.

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Speaker 5: So we joked and if you went live, you just

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Some of the jokes were like were jokes off

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Speaker 1: of jokes that people heard before. But then the people

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Speaker 1: why did they think that joke was so funny? It's

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Speaker 1: like because we remixed it. It was the same joke

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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: That kind of sounds like if you're doing stand up right,

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Speaker 3: like you know, I need like a drink or two

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Speaker 3: feel like such a dork. You go to your next

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Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, we've done a few meta things like

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Speaker 4: Three though I didn't need it on the episode three.

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Speaker 4: I could have gone maybe like five more weeks, you

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Speaker 1: Get rid of it early, Yeah, get me better to

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Speaker 1: hit it early. Better early, especially if you learning how

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Speaker 1: to edit yourself. That's so that shit is so because.

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Speaker 2: Ain't nobody take that away from you.

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Speaker 5: So if you ever decide I want to start a network,

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Speaker 5: or if you ever decide I want to restart, you

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Speaker 2: To spend the money to get somebody to do that.

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Speaker 4: On your half.

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Speaker 1: Like we've had people reach out to us before and

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Speaker 7: It's like, so I record the show, I pay you, and.

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Speaker 1: Then I get and then.

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Speaker 7: I gotta wait for you to do the ship for me.

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Speaker 1: To get it back. How does that make sense?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Right, right, right right?

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Speaker 3: Did you know how to edit? Like did you you

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Speaker 3: you guys learned along the way.

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Speaker 1: I learned it all because I was rapping before this

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Speaker 2: Was a terrible wrap yes, sweet sweet Water Tavola.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I was a terrible It was sweet Water Tavola,

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Speaker 1: wasn't it was the right you. It went through several phases,

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Speaker 1: yes it is. There was the prodigal one that was hot,

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Speaker 1: and then there was sweet Water Tavola.

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Speaker 3: So you were prodigal, just prodigally, not nobody's prodigal son, the.

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Speaker 1: Prodigal, the prodigal one. I don't know why I thought

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Speaker 1: that was so hot clever, and it don't mean it

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Speaker 1: literally means nothing. Okay, so you're the problem. And then

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Speaker 1: you were sweet waterpla. Tavola is the street through Charlotte.

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Speaker 1: So I thought that was like always like I'm named

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Speaker 4: So wait, it's sweet water, like the name of the lake.

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Speaker 1: And yet I thought one, I thought it sounded cool,

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Speaker 1: and then two, like the first nigga to play in

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Speaker 1: This nigga name was sweet alright. So so you.

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Speaker 4: Put more effort than the rhymes.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean the rhymes were good, but it was

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Speaker 1: just I mean, I wasn't good enough, you know what

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Speaker 5: But he traveled. That's when he went to Detroit. Chavel

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we did a concert in a club in Detroit

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Speaker 1: with my friend pat Uh. It was pretty terrible, but.

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Speaker 2: People actually knew the music.

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Speaker 2: He found people that actually knew the music. According back to.

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Speaker 1: Him, it was, Yeah, we did a show in Charlotte

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Speaker 4: Hilarious.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, ship, you're doing your twinnies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, release it in like a I don't know, like

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Speaker 3: a you know, Patreon or something like behind the Bay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sniffings of your music if you got video footage of.

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Speaker 4: That con.

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Speaker 1: I mean, in all fairness, there's still the songs are

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Speaker 1: took them down. Uh search set Water top O. It's

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Speaker 1: on sound Click and it's terrible.

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Speaker 3: But I'm on Spotify. I get you a set or

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Speaker 3: something every time somebody streams.

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Speaker 1: But there's no way that's legal. We wasn't clearing samples.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna be like Peter Gunns with that Steely Dan

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Speaker 3: sample where that song was like a number one hit

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Speaker 3: and he didn't get a set.

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Speaker 4: Off of that ship.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that'll happen. But these joints were so oh,

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Speaker 1: these were so terrible.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the track listing now and uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it was fun. We didn't have a lot of

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Speaker 1: good times and all that stuff. But I mean, you

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Speaker 1: used to rap, you know, used to be butter I

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Speaker 3: Before that, I was Frenchy and listen, I'm not French.

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Speaker 4: I don't know where that came from. I just oh,

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Speaker 3: Somebody was trying to get famous and back and you know,

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Speaker 3: and you know about butter because I'm yellow and I'm smooth,

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's the name I got from Real Housewives of

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Speaker 4: But reality TV is almost forty years old now.

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Speaker 5: I tell you who keeps us abreast of all the

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Speaker 1: There, sir. Yeah, they're like stretching reality shows now, like

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Speaker 7: Yes, like yeah, they got people out there, they feel

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Speaker 1: That's a season three you know starting, So yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Reality TV is so weird for me, Like I think

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Speaker 7: Because it's never okay to judge in any other area.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's I always say that I love reality TV,

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Speaker 3: But it's like great because you get to gossip about

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Speaker 4: By like me watching reality TV. Like it's a quick test.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy. You know, the kind of people that like

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Speaker 3: Learn that you are, or the kind of people that

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Speaker 4: I like a bad bitch who's terrible to her friends.

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Speaker 3: I'm secretly a bad bitch who's terrible to my friends.

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Speaker 4: But it's just like I have a landline. Guys, you're

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Speaker 1: They're like, we've never heard Karen and Rod phone ring before,

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Speaker 4: All right, let me go handle it.

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Speaker 1: All right. She's getting a call right now from the

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Speaker 1: We need you to write the next season The Real

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Speaker 1: Just throw bottles of heads. Was you know, that's that's

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Speaker 7: I want to judge people who do things like that.

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Speaker 7: This doesn't seem inappropriate.

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Speaker 3: Yes, there have been people on Basketball Lives, definitely Basketball wives.

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Speaker 7: But hey, let's stop bullying people, all right, my brother died.

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Speaker 3: And then so she became an activist and it was

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Speaker 1: I'm scared of you. Good good, I mean she feels

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Speaker 4: Not for him.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's but I do think they like serve

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Speaker 3: Real Housewives of Potoac. It's the second black franchise of Potomac,

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Speaker 3: and me, I'm not bougie, but I agree with them,

444
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 3: are on the side of the woman who got assaulted,

445
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,640
Speaker 3: and everybody else is on the side of the woman

446
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 3: who was doing the assaulting. And a couple of weeks ago,

447
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 3: Jamel Hill was watching it and she basically tweeted stuff

448
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 3: in support of this fight, and it was very fascinating

449
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 3: to me to see somebody like Jamel Hill or Scott

450
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:05,719
Speaker 3: being even advocating for the violence of this woman and

451
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 3: but be starting, for example, jam l Hill a black

452
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,719
Speaker 3: network for Black women and to be like such a

453
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 3: pro black protect black woman advocate, and Scotty Bean, whose

454
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,120
Speaker 3: job on whatever the state of the culture that show

455
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 3: was was to protect black women against Joe Budden's misogynistic

456
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 3: ass and it's like really weird to like see them.

457
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Speaker 4: I didn't like it.

458
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Speaker 3: But it was very interesting to see how they would

459
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 3: try to reconcile their feelings of being.

460
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Speaker 4: People like yeah, get that bitch yet her.

461
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Speaker 3: And then you know, but like be on TV or

462
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 3: on the radio talk about protect black women.

463
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 4: There's protect black women.

464
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Speaker 1: That's that's that's that's how reality show allows people to be, Like,

465
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Speaker 1: you could be outside your politics and yourself for a

466
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Speaker 1: little bit. Like like you said earlier, you you like villains,

467
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 1: but I'm sure in real life you'd be like, no, don't. Yeah,

468
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 1: if you did me like this, I choke slammer. But

469
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 1: but it's like shit on that TV. Yeah, sure, talk

470
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 1: about you.

471
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Speaker 4: Friends exactly exactly.

472
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I probably would never be friends with the women

473
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 3: that I enjoy the most on these shows.

474
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 4: And I'm said, yeah, there's.

475
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 3: Like a as somebody in this chap just said, there's

476
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 3: like an.

477
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 4: Escapeist quality to it.

478
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 3: It's just like you and you almost get to wear

479
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 3: these women as avatars too. You kind of are looking

480
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 3: at them and you're like, I would never do that

481
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 3: in my real life. But the me who could be

482
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 3: the me I want to be get to do that

483
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 3: on this show. You know what I'm saying, Like, there's

484
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,479
Speaker 3: no possible way that I could be Kenya Moore in

485
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 3: real life and have friends still, but Kenya Moore gets

486
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 3: to be on TV and be a terrorist, and I'm like, yeah, can't.

487
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 1: They writing a paycheck for everybody to show back up

488
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 1: next week so you could just abuse these motherfuckers? Yes, exactly,

489
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: like cause it was like that's the thing about TV

490
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: where it's always like, fuck you bitch, your miscarriage was fake.

491
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Speaker 7: Oh well that's why your daughter is a whole.

492
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 1: Oh what the fuck? Anyway, see you at the Ponderosa

493
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:04,959
Speaker 1: next week.

494
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Speaker 4: But it's getting to a point though.

495
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 3: It's getting to a point where now because these women

496
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 3: are so foul to each other, when they get together

497
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 3: in the large group, the energy is so off because

498
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 3: it's like this person just told me that my miscarriage

499
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 3: was an abortion, and this person is like, how we

500
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Speaker 3: gonna laugh over this?

501
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Speaker 2: Right?

502
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Speaker 4: Right?

503
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: Because they always have that other person that's getting paid

504
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 1: to be like, do you think y'all can maybe just talk?

505
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Speaker 5: Yeah, the peacemaker because I think for a lot of people,

506
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 5: people love train wrecks, and that's what all car wreck

507
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 5: If you ever realize if you're going somewhere and the

508
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Speaker 5: car wreck happen. Now people can actually fly past the

509
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 5: car wreck, but all of.

510
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 2: A sudden, it just gets slow and shit, and you're like,

511
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 2: I wish y'all fuckers would go. That's because everybody want

512
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 2: to ride and turn and look.

513
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Speaker 5: And I think reality show, particularly online, that's how it is.

514
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 2: Is like people don't lie. It's slowing down and that

515
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 2: looking yeah at.

516
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 5: The train wreck, that's reality TV, and then turned around

517
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 5: and kind of putting how.

518
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 2: They feel about about the correct or the train wreck.

519
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: And I think they found a lane of a commentary

520
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: through social media now where they're integrating that into the show.

521
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: So you're getting people being like, let's talk about the

522
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: colorism on the show, and you're like, is it really?

523
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: Is it really color Is it purely colorism? Are you

524
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 1: also a horrible person but you're dark and horrible? Like

525
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 1: I didn't come here for this, Like let's talk about classism.

526
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Speaker 7: It's like, is it classism that threw the bottle with

527
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Speaker 7: my head?

528
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Speaker 3: Or is it that you just you shouldn't have did that.

529
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Speaker 4: That's the thing that's so interesting about it.

530
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Speaker 3: I think, you know, I'm glad that I'm talking about

531
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Speaker 3: reality TV on my podcast because I feel like there's

532
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 3: not a lot of black podcasters talking about not only

533
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 3: black reality shows, because there's a lot of black pop

534
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 3: casters talk about the black reality shows, but even the

535
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Speaker 3: white ones, so the ones with one black person on it.

536
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 3: There's like a lot of perspective that you know, black

537
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 3: people bring to these shows.

538
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 4: But in my discussion of the black.

539
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 3: Shows on the white networks, black people bring a baggage

540
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 3: to watching television that.

541
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Speaker 4: No other group grace. And obviously that's because.

542
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 3: Of the history of this country and how you know,

543
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 3: the representation of other people, even though we resist, it

544
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 3: reflects on the.

545
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 4: Rest of us, you know what I'm saying.

546
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 3: And so now people are watching you know, Real Housewives

547
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 3: of Potoma for example, where they's like there's this preold

548
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 3: woman and this woman who's so mixed that she looks

549
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 3: white sometimes, and now everything they do is colorists. It

550
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 3: can't be that somebody was deserving, it's because they're coloriss.

551
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 3: So like, you know, like even the assault her, you

552
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, beat up them lifecined bitches.

553
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 4: She's the brown girl who you know.

554
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 3: Comes from the hood and she married an NFL player.

555
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 3: She came up the way that is relatable to a

556
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 3: lot of black people. You know what I'm saying, oh,

557
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 3: she married a ball, like she a bad bitch as

558
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 3: opposed to like being born into wealth and being like

559
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 3: blugie or whatever. It's so fascinating or even you know

560
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 3: when like on Real Housewives of New York, Evanie K

561
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 3: Williams is a legit political commentator. She was on the

562
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 3: most ridiculous show on Bravo trying to get these women

563
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 3: to accept her blackness and like bringing wokeness to a

564
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 3: show that you used to be sixty year old women

565
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 3: getting drunk and fucking pirates on cameras, you know, and

566
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 3: it was just like it's crazy, it's mind blowing, like

567
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 3: what we bring in particular as black people, and like

568
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 3: how resistant even the white crowds are because like the

569
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 3: fact is that character on Real.

570
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 4: Housewives in New York, Ramona is racist, right, But Ebanie

571
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 4: was annoying to you don't want to.

572
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 3: Give ammo to the white audience members who just don't

573
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,479
Speaker 3: want to hear about race all together.

574
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 4: But also Ebony's annoying, you know what I mean.

575
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: It's like a reality shows are like the Facebook memes,

576
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, where like it's never completely

577
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: one way or the other, and that's why it gives

578
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: people so much fodder because what is actually doing is

579
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 1: allowing us to project, and then our projections become like

580
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: the thing we're really talking about. It's like how people

581
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: watch Insecure and then argue all week and you'd be like,

582
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: none of this shit happened on the show. I think

583
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: you're talking about Tom, you know, like your ex ex

584
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: boyfriend or some shit that did this and it reminded

585
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: you of that, but the show didn't do that. And

586
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: I think that's that's what happens with a lot of

587
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: reality shows. What shows do you talk about?

588
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 4: Mostly the Bravo shows. So I've been watching Real House.

589
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 3: I've refused to watch Real House Ees of Potomac because

590
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 3: after that fight and the like cultural war, oh man,

591
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 3: like intro racial cultural war that's happening there, I was like, okay,

592
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about this show no more.

593
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 4: There's always about somebody's husband is cheating.

594
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 3: And somebody got a hot box and we you know,

595
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 3: hot box hot box and your man said you the

596
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 3: same thing, like this is how to be fighting in

597
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 3: the gutter, and then people.

598
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 4: All might be like, that's why your man don't love you?

599
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 3: Rob your wake up, getting people's business, but not to

600
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 3: raise her key.

601
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna do that one. I'm not gonna do

602
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 4: that one.

603
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 3: So I've just been talking about Roal Housepives of Beverly Hills,

604
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 3: and it's actually been really really interesting in the season

605
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 3: because one of the characters, Oh my god. So if

606
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 3: you're on Bravo, the conceders that you're the richest of

607
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 3: reality TV show people, right, But it's turning out to

608
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 3: keep up with the Joneses, all these people is committing fraud.

609
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 3: So we have fraud in New Jersey, we have fraud

610
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 3: on Real Housewives in Salt Lake City.

611
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: In real life, they'd be like the loud go to jail.

612
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 4: Yes, this one is like a legendary lawyer. He's the

613
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 4: lawyer from Aaron Brockovich.

614
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 3: His the real life man was stealing money from his victims,

615
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 3: so from his clients, so his clients were getting lawsuit

616
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 3: settlements or payoffs and not receiving the money. And his wife,

617
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 3: his wife was on National TV wearing one hundred and

618
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:15,959
Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars Cardier rings while plane crash victims, the

619
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 3: orphans and widows of those plane crash victims didn't get

620
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 3: their money or a burn victims didn't get their money

621
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,479
Speaker 3: type shit. And this season it's all about you know,

622
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 3: Erica and like people trying to interrogate her but she's

623
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 3: stonewalling and being It's been so much fun. I love

624
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: talking about scammers, you know what I'm saying.

625
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was on my favorite.

626
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Speaker 5: Thing, hey, right, because like I said, I don't really

627
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 5: want to look the public, but I keep up with

628
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 5: like that part because that part kind of hits like

629
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 5: the social media area. I don't know who it is,

630
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Speaker 5: but didn one of them like actually she got a

631
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Speaker 5: phone call and she left because she didn't want to

632
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Speaker 5: get arrested, was recording.

633
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Speaker 4: No, no, no, it's jen Shaw.

634
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Speaker 3: You're right about the shop, but her last name was

635
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 3: shot jen Shaw was first of all, you could tell

636
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 3: that she was fronting in terms of money on the

637
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 3: first season of her show, The Show for Me at

638
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 3: Last yea, and you could tell like, oh, that money,

639
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 3: you know, And then it started to come out that

640
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 3: her house was rented.

641
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 4: Her husband's only a football coach, like a college football coach,

642
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 4: and he's not a head coach.

643
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 3: Like there's no way that they could afford the lifestyle

644
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 3: they had, and you know, when they asked her what

645
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 3: her job was.

646
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 4: She would just say, oh, you know, I do marketing.

647
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 4: I do business to business markets some vague shit. And

648
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 4: then it comes out that while.

649
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Speaker 3: They're filming the second season, the Feds have been watching

650
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 3: her for eight years and had and have been getting

651
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 3: all her underlings to flip. She was part of some

652
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 3: company that was tricking old people into sending money for

653
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 3: shits or whatever. I don't know the details or whatever,

654
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 3: but it's like she's actually gonna get in a lot

655
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 3: of trouble because the Feds, you know, the Feds, they

656
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 3: have like something like a.

657
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 4: Ninety three percent conviction rate or whatever.

658
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 3: They had been watching her for like eight years, and

659
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 3: they said she's the mastermind of the skid the other

660
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 3: people the husband made me sign papers, or the husband

661
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 3: stole the money and he just wandered it through my business.

662
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 4: This is jen Shaw is the person who created this

663
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 4: marketing scheme.

664
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 3: So they arrested her on camera, and she's she's a

665
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 3: she's a Polynesian woman. She's married to a black football coach,

666
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 3: and she has like a weirdo obsession with black women.

667
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 3: So they arrested Shorty while she's filming, and she had

668
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 3: box braids in her.

669
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 4: Heir okay, looking like like she a hood rap whatever.

670
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 4: She went to court the next day.

671
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 3: Guess whose braids wasn't in No more, she was like, Oh,

672
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 3: ain't gonna be black in front.

673
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 4: Of the judge.

674
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: No, Ma, I mean, I don't blame her, but even

675
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: even black people don't want to be black in front

676
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: of the judge. Every nigga got a suit on and.

677
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 5: Shit be like, I'm I'm not put a relax on anybody,

678
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 5: So i'body gonna press this ship.

679
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:03,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's funny because was my favorite person uh

680
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: with reality TV is actually Shannie O'Neill. She's so like

681
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: she it's just so manipulative, like the way that.

682
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 7: She's her show.

683
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: So she's like she really be on some like one

684
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: y'all can never talk too bad about me like all

685
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: of the all whenever they have when she has to

686
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: have a fight for the show, it's always easily resolved

687
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: and it's never too negative. It's just like I'm not

688
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: talking to her because she said that uh uh, she

689
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: that that I was being fake or something like that

690
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: where it's never specific. But then also the fact that

691
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: she runs runs everybody paycheck. She really knew me, like, okay,

692
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: it's time for y'all to make up. At the end

693
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: of the season, she did you see what, She.

694
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 3: Fired someone on camera for calling her a bitch, and

695
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 3: that one that woman had waited, I think, all season

696
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 3: to call Shani a bitch, right, Like she was so careful,

697
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: she was so careful.

698
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 4: She was like, Shanni, I feel like you being a bitch,

699
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 4: and the record stop. The record did stop.

700
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 3: Like even Tammy Roman and y'all know Tammy Roman. Tammy

701
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 3: Roman don't keep her mouth quieter about nothing. She was like, oh,

702
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 3: she calls a bitch, right, and so so then Shannie

703
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 3: just looks at her goes thank you, and.

704
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 4: The woman is like still trying to argue with her,

705
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 4: kind of confused, and she goes, thank you for your services.

706
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: M h m hm. Cause that's that's what I like

707
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: about her, is because she she is the pluther that

708
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: that's not fair.

709
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 4: That's not fairly, not fighting fair.

710
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: She's exactly I don't I don't like fighting fair, like

711
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: go ahead and run these that's her boss right there,

712
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: because it's all this illusionary ship that she's one of

713
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 1: the crews.

714
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 7: And I've been saying it for years, like we would

715
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 7: whenever I was watching me and.

716
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: Justin were talking about it, I'd be like, Nah, Shannie

717
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: runs that whole fucking thing. And it's pretty fucking obvious, uh,

718
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: because they always run right up to the line with

719
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: Shannie and then they back down. And so yeah, that

720
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: just confirms my theory. Rod was right that she was

721
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: definitely running ship and you can't talk to her the

722
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: way you talk to the other ones. That's crazy because

723
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: that's a nice that's the most polite bitch that's ever

724
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: been told.

725
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 4: Tell you could tell Shorty. She was like, she was

726
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 4: so slow with that bitch too. She was like, I

727
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 4: think you're being up bit.

728
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,959
Speaker 1: The bitch had a question mark on it, like, bitch,

729
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: I think you're being a bitch to us.

730
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 7: Okay, all right, get my papers?

731
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 1: All right, thank you?

732
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 2: Who's hr I'm looking at?

733
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 4: Hi?

734
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 2: Okay, I get it.

735
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

736
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 3: But it was like it was low key crazy because

737
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 3: it was like like Shannie earned that bitch so hard.

738
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 4: She earned it, I mean hard.

739
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: She's a horror of her if you just think but

740
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 1: if you just think about this show from the point

741
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 1: of she's running the show, she's a horror person because

742
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: all she does is put these women in positions.

743
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 7: To tear each other down, but you can't.

744
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: But she's in a bubble of like I run this ship,

745
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: I write the check, So y'all tear each other down.

746
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: Don't bring that shit to me.

747
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 3: Oh like even you know Evelyn Lozada, she's famous basically

748
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 3: for beating bitch's ass on the show, right, famous for it.

749
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 3: That's like how she got NFL players, That's how she

750
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 3: got her money.

751
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 4: Whatever. She was always on Shawnee's side.

752
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 3: So Evelyn's violence was never a problem, right, ever a problem?

753
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 4: And then the most recent season of the season, before

754
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 4: the most.

755
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 3: Recent season, because Basketball Wives is still going God forgive,

756
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 3: but like there's a dark skinned Nigerian girl who barely

757
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 3: threatened violence, and now they're like, we're scared of og

758
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 3: yeh scared of og And I'm just like, what my

759
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: friend got food flapping Jennifer Sason three.

760
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: It's also because they they made it now quote unquote,

761
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: so they as like, I got something now we used

762
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: to be violent type shit, and it's like, yeah, apparently

763
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: there's the thing. Y'all still talk sadeways of people and

764
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: everybody else hasn't taken a vow of giving up the violence.

765
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: So maybe watch your fucking mouth, you know what I mean. Yeah,

766
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: I love that. I used to love that show.

767
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 3: It's I mean, they trying to make basketball wives popping again.

768
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 3: They fought ever and quit quote unquote because she got

769
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 3: accused of being colorless Shawnee. I think it's taking a

770
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 3: step back because the audience finally completely.

771
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 4: Turned on Shawnee, like they don't care that she's the boss,

772
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 4: you know.

773
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 3: So like hopefully, I think that we're we're entering a

774
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 3: weird place for reality TV because social media has really

775
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 3: really you mentioned it earlier, but social social media has

776
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 3: like really really changed the show because everyone is very

777
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 3: cognizance of what people think of them now, and you

778
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 3: can see the people performing for Twitter or Instagram, like like, oh, okay,

779
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 3: she knows Twitter's gonna drag her if she hangs out

780
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: with this person, so she's.

781
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 4: Trying to be in the middle or whatever whatever.

782
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 3: I'm nervous for the genre because you can see people

783
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 3: losing their authentic self because they don't want to.

784
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 4: Lose endorsement deals on Instagram and things like that.

785
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: And we're talking about in many cases, people with raging

786
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: personality disorders and they're being introduced to all this powerful

787
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: language that's just free floating on the internet, and so

788
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: when they get a hold of it, it's like, I'm

789
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: gonna go upside this woman's head. And then when I'm

790
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 1: called out on it, I'm going to talk about class

791
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: and colorism and my personal mental health and therapy. And

792
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: it's like they beat you to the plunge, or it's like, well,

793
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: it does seem like you shouldn't have kicked that woman

794
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: in the vagina, but also your therapy, yes, like that.

795
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 4: Was part of the real houselights of Potomac.

796
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 3: Like this girl beat up her coworker for in my opinion,

797
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: no reason, and then spent the rest of the season

798
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 3: finding the reason that she beat upright. Oh, the way

799
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 3: she had her hands under my chin reminded me of

800
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 3: the way that my father used to talk down to me,

801
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 3: and I was triggered. Or that there was another argument

802
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 3: where a dark skinned woman started fight with.

803
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 4: A life skinned woman and they called her aggressive.

804
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 3: In my opinion, she was behaving aggressively, and that's the reunion.

805
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 3: You don't see how it's colorless use the word aggressive against.

806
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 7: She see what's going Oh, so how I am I

807
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 7: get out of.

808
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 4: This color exactly how you feel it.

809
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 3: It's really and you'll see like and I'll be in

810
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 3: Reddit or some ship, like I'll be being ready.

811
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 4: I love is my favorite you like you you go

812
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 4: read it and you'll see.

813
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 3: People diagnosed, some people on TV like it's crazy, but like,

814
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 3: it's very clear to me that Monique has bite or

815
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 3: borderline personality disorder and thus should be forgiven for her transgression. Right,

816
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 3: what are you?

817
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's gotta be tempting to I mean I

818
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: would if I was on those TV shows and I

819
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: saw these get out of jail free cards from my behavior.

820
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: I mean, the kind of person that throws a chair

821
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: or somebody is probably the kind of person that's going

822
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: to use the excuse for it. So like, of course

823
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: they're reading that, but my I don't. And it's not

824
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: that I'm too good for reality shows. I just want

825
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: to be clear because I think sometimes when I talk

826
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: like this and say I don't watch reality shows, it

827
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: comes across like because I'm too good for the shit. No,

828
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: it's the opposite. Actually, I craate the oldness. Okay, yeah,

829
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: my favorite show of all times is a Cheater. Oh

830
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: that's my jail I record I record the show reruns

831
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: from like ten twenty years ago. My DVR would have

832
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: like seventy eighty episodes of CHEATINGHS and I just sit

833
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: down and watch it because that was before any of

834
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: the social media, before anything was well, everybody was way

835
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: over the fucking line.

836
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 7: This shit would not be It wasn't fake. It was

837
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 7: real people getting caught cheating.

838
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: And you could tell because not even cent the time,

839
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: they wouldn't let him use their name in likeness, like

840
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: it's like I have nothing to do with this, and

841
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: it was and it was completely irresponsible. I saw one

842
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: the other day where a dude stole on a woman

843
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 1: and knocked her out, and I was like, oh right,

844
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: you can out. So the cheater, the guy.

845
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 7: The woman was like, she busted him. She was talking

846
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 7: to like, you know, her man, her man.

847
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 4: She caught her man, and the man hit his shorty

848
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 4: for catching him, cheated, knocked.

849
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 1: Her cold out, and it was so fresh and real.

850
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,479
Speaker 1: At that point, you could tell everyone on the set

851
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: had not crossed their minds.

852
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 7: That could happen.

853
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 4: Shot.

854
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: That was the first, like even the host was like,

855
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: oh no, you can't do that. What it's like, this

856
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: is these are real people.

857
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 4: Also she already got knocked out, right, it was.

858
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 7: Way too late.

859
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was way too that.

860
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 4: Yeah.

861
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

862
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 5: We watched one where uh I think the man cheated

863
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 5: on a woman and they showed up and a woman

864
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 5: jumped in one of their vehicles and hit him.

865
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 2: Ran them over ran him.

866
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: Another time, a.

867
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 7: Dude came out of the house with a gun and

868
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 7: just shot the fucking gun.

869
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: I was like, get off my property. There is a

870
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: private property. Y'all don't have a right to be here,

871
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: which they didn't, and they was running. There was another

872
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: time a dude got stabbed on a boat. He got

873
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: dabbed on the boat, and then they had to producer

874
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: host for a while and he was terrible, horrible. You

875
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: did not have the same terrible.

876
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, yes, yes they.

877
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 6: The one.

878
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: There was one where a dude was getting cheated on

879
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: and he was he was so funny by the way,

880
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: Like he wasn't a comedian, but he just you know,

881
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: some niggas is just funny.

882
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 7: And he was like, yeah, I know she's cheating on me, man,

883
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 7: because like she shaved her pubic hair.

884
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: Man, And you know, I like it, nephew, you know

885
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I like it a certain way Joey,

886
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: and so the dude was, I mean, Joey just be

887
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: like I mean, Joey is like Skip Bayless. When like

888
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: the black dude on the show is talking about race,

889
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: he's just like there for you, but he's not gonna

890
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: ever say anything to contribute to the conversation, so he's

891
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: you know. And then of course they always do that

892
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: reveal of like, well, we have some some news here

893
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: for you if you're ready to see this, then to

894
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: show you like this is her going to the movies.

895
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: She's holding hands with this gentleman. We don't know who

896
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: it is. And then the other dude always knowss like

897
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 1: just my cousin or whatever the fuck. But in this case,

898
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: they get in the car because he's like you ready

899
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: to because like this dude was like distract, like he's

900
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: like you ready to go confront her, and he's just like, yeah, man,

901
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: let's just let's just get this. Let's just do this, man,

902
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: let's get it over with.

903
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: So they get in the car.

904
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: He runs up on he's like talking ship but not

905
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: nothing violent, Like he seemed like a dude that has

906
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: on the left for he was just like that. Well,

907
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: the the other dude was just like unrepentant, like he's like, yeah,

908
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm fucking your girl. No, I don't give a fuck,

909
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: that's your business. They never do. They always expect some

910
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: contrition at least from the person getting that's cheating, and

911
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: then normally the other person will say something like they

912
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: didn't know, and then they feel bad and sometimes they

913
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 1: link up.

914
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 2: Right like if they did know.

915
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: It's like a little bit of like, hey man, look

916
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: I didn't she told me black or whatever.

917
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 7: But this mofucker was like basically like man, fuck y'all.

918
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: Dude was like acting like he really wanted to fight him,

919
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: and he's just like whatever, I'm getting in my car,

920
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: and uh, you you come in Like it wasn't even.

921
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 7: Like a respectful like we're together now. It's just like, hey, bitch,

922
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 7: you get in the car.

923
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 4: Not She's like all right, I gotta go. She like

924
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 4: the got in the car.

925
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 7: Yes, she got in the car, and then bitch you

926
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 7: got so once again, this is cheaters in the wild,

927
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 7: no rules, no no rules of engaging.

928
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 4: That was from what year do you think?

929
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: That was probably two thousand and somewhere between two thousand

930
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: and five twenty and twelve. I don't know. It was

931
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: like a food Yeah, definitely before Twitter. It was like

932
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: it might even been two thousand and one or so.

933
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: It was like a food dude had like a foobuo jersey.

934
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 5: Yes, And when we go back in, Yes, I love

935
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 5: the old school clothing because you can tell by the

936
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 5: clothing and the fingerwass you'd be like, okay, you can

937
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 5: kind of tell what.

938
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 2: Year it is.

939
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, man, And so they they so cheaters. The

940
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: guy rolls off normally, that's the end of the confrontation,

941
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: right the couple drives off, fuck y'all, we out these motherfuckers,

942
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: and Cheetahs is like, uh, we're gonna follow him down

943
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: the street. So everyone they load up in the bank.

944
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: They followed the dude.

945
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 2: Don't makes no sense.

946
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 7: And because and they had already kind of been scrapping

947
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 7: a little bit.

948
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 4: You know.

949
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: So the dude is like, let's go, man, let's get them.

950
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 4: Let's go.

951
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 7: They're trying to get down there, and so dude pulled.

952
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: The dude that's the cheat. Uh, I don't even know

953
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: what you call the guy that he's not a cheater,

954
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 1: but he's the underpinst side dude. The side dude pulls

955
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: into the parking lot with him and the girl house

956
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: out of the car, pulls out a gun and starts

957
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: pointing at everybody. Everyone scrambles. They get back in the car,

958
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: and my favorite part of the whole fucking show is

959
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: the dude that got cheated on was in the car

960
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: and he just was like, Yo, that motherfucker. He was crazy, Joey,

961
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: it's not worth all that, you know, because I got

962
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: a son, I got laughter, list like, it's not worth

963
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: all this.

964
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 2: This ship is over.

965
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 1: I was like, that's that's the most real reality TV

966
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: can get, because that motherfucker had like he had a

967
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: near death experience and was like, what the fuck mat Okay?

968
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 4: So she che y, Yes, it's your right. He went

969
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 4: through every.

970
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: Stage of grief in about thirty seconds. He was just like,

971
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna beat this dude's ass. Actually, you know what

972
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying that she left me.

973
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 7: You know that I think about it. I'm accepting that, right, Yeah,

974
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 7: I accept it all Yeah.

975
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 5: I think I think one of my favorite ones. And

976
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 5: like I said, if I like right, I said, we

977
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 5: are not above it.

978
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 4: We just like it.

979
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 2: Kind of pre no whole bars.

980
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 5: It was this one episode where they busted in on

981
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 5: this this couple of cheating and they had rummen, noodles

982
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 5: in the tub.

983
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 2: Yes, no you li I am lying, I am not lying,

984
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 2: and all the MSG. Yes.

985
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 7: First of all, this was like a lacina end.

986
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 4: This was not you're gonna You're gonna get a used

987
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 4: to faction. She got noodles in your box.

988
00:47:58,840 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 6: Like what are we doing?

989
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that ship was. It was like, yes, it

990
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: was like a la kina use we'll leave the like

991
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: it was. It was the joint where like the doors

992
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: to the outside. The dude that the dude that was

993
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: hosting at the time was Clark Gregg, who was actually

994
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: like the grand child of the Clark uh something like

995
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: Clark something. I forget the old let me.

996
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 7: Clark Gable.

997
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: Yes, he was like the grandson of that dude. He

998
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: actually died from like a drug use or something.

999
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 4: So he made the host.

1000
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 7: You had a whole the temporary host at that time.

1001
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 3: Isn't he like I think he used to do, you

1002
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 3: know how like on Investigation Discovery, Like if you watch

1003
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 3: the crime shows, they'll do re enactments or whatever.

1004
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 4: I think he used to do re enactments for one

1005
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 4: of them shows too. Wow, he's dead.

1006
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 7: Clark Clark, James Gable.

1007
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: Man, it's pretty handsome. Dude had a he had a

1008
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: good He wasn't good as Joey nobody ever is, but

1009
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: he had a good mean like. He was tall. There

1010
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: was a couple of times like a dude tried to

1011
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: fight him one time and he was just straight up

1012
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: on something like you sure you want to do this?

1013
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 5: Like this, this is this, this is really what you're

1014
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 5: trying to He's like a six foot tall dude, and dude,

1015
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 5: dude came at me and you handled his ass real easy,

1016
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 5: Like all right, now you done got your ass whooped

1017
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 5: and you are Cheatah, so let's get back to the question.

1018
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: So we're not above nobody.

1019
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: So so my point being though, this episode was so insane.

1020
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: Oh oh my god, this is the Roma episode. The

1021
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: way he got in I believe he got into the

1022
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: hotel room by saying.

1023
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 2: Housekeeping right, because you didn't have to go through the hotel.

1024
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 1: This is not the greatest audio. I think I have

1025
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: turned the volume up, but I think I may even have.

1026
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 4: He's a pretty big guy. He looks stocky.

1027
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 6: He is.

1028
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 4: An Italian dude who goes to the gym.

1029
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: Oh ship, Oh god, hold on. That's my mistake, y'all.

1030
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: Hold did you guys disappear?

1031
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 4: Just looking for another one?

1032
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: Give me one second?

1033
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 4: Can you hear me? Did we break up?

1034
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm so sorry.

1035
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, cool, Hi, audience chat.

1036
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I hit the back button on the

1037
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: wrong part of the browser. Me trying to uh get

1038
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: this right. But yeah, they have like the Teeters Robin

1039
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: Noodle episode is what it's called. But it was just, uh,

1040
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 1: well he caught what he got. I'm trying to every

1041
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: nigga has recorded this off that TV.

1042
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 5: About say, don't have an official website DVR around that show?

1043
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 5: They have. I bet you they have their own YouTube channel.

1044
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 5: I don't know if I can find it because I

1045
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 5: don't know.

1046
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, but the whole point was like the

1047
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: I'll just play the bad audio for now. But it

1048
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: was just so ridiculous, the cheating, the way he got

1049
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: in there with the housekeeping, it was so smooth.

1050
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 4: Wait, so he put on a fake Filipino access.

1051
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, and.

1052
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes around the house I will do this like like

1053
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: or like anytime, like me and Karen are watching something

1054
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: that like the police swat team is about there breaking

1055
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: the doors on some TV show, be like how skipping?

1056
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, let's see if we can get und a

1057
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 1: better links. This is even worse than the first audio.

1058
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 5: I'm looking baby, because you played on one time and

1059
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 5: it had excellent quality.

1060
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I had the actual episode, right, that's

1061
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: what I'm link. I hate I hate that. Uh this

1062
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: is Cheetah's top.

1063
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 6: Baby.

1064
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to hear.

1065
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,280
Speaker 1: This dude got the this dude got the commentary, Harry,

1066
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 1: he was he was li it. Oh if Karen finds

1067
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: the lingual play. But anyway, he's buzzed in there and

1068
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: they're in the tub with ramen and it's a hot

1069
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: tub but it's a hot tub in like in the end,

1070
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:14,959
Speaker 1: So it's not nice.

1071
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 4: That is disgusting, absolutely disgusting.

1072
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 3: It's actually dirtier than if you were eating it in

1073
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 3: a pot like the bathtob of the dirtiest.

1074
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 4: W tell you.

1075
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like so so disgusting, not not not cooler,

1076
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 1: all dirty as fuck. The dude that is getting cheated on,

1077
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: how do.

1078
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 4: You find out that eating ramen off your shorty is

1079
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 4: your kink? Like?

1080
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 5: What?

1081
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 6: Like?

1082
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 3: How what is the how do you arrive there? I've

1083
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,439
Speaker 3: never seen noodles, like, how do you get there? Buddy said,

1084
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 3: that's what you're into.

1085
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: Buddy even said like I'm he said something like that's

1086
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: what she into us, Like he was so so okay.

1087
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 1: So I found like a little bit of a clip

1088
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: from Twitter and that's much better. Audio takes it out

1089
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: every time, every time Clark said it, Clark said it

1090
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: like he was like I said, he was almost as

1091
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: good as Joey. They are one of the dudes, what

1092
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: of the dude that is the side dude is but

1093
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: ass naked and he's fighting the guy who's got cheat

1094
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: who's got cheated on. One of the things that's interested

1095
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: in this is that they are best friends. No, yes,

1096
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: so his best is homeboy is fucking his girlfriend and

1097
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: his ass has.

1098
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 3: He's gonna jump out the chip naked, smelling like soup,

1099
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 3: and you're gonna beat.

1100
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 4: Him your home.

1101
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: He beating your ass like chicken flavor you but naked,

1102
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: and he's likely still marinading and screaming, unrepented.

1103
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 6: What's going on here while y'all soup everywhere? The Sheila

1104
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 6: Sheila Brandon, What's what's going on here? You guys? You

1105
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 6: guys got to raman everywhere? Hit him up, hold him up,

1106
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 6: be careful.

1107
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 7: He's throwing. I won't play the whole thing, but just

1108
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 7: oh my god, it was like, this is what I'm into.

1109
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: This is why I can't judge.

1110
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 7: Like Justin showed me the fight from the Real Housewives that.

1111
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: Started everything, and I was like, I have nothing for this,

1112
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: and he's just like, but she did this and she

1113
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,479
Speaker 1: threw some I was like, Justin, I watch people damn

1114
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: there get killed every day. Yeah, I think I think

1115
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 1: I found something clear, Like I'm watching murders over here.

1116
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 4: No, but no, but for real, like in real life,

1117
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 4: this happened.

1118
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 3: A man walked in with a camera crew and caught

1119
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 3: his girl being the chicken in the chicken of the

1120
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 3: suit with his best friend, and then the friend jumps

1121
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 3: out of the tub as yep, beating his friend up.

1122
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 4: They tussling on the floor. Security pulls them apart, and

1123
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 4: the cucko picks up noodles.

1124
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: And that's just the beginning. It's really like I have

1125
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: it's really like about six to eight minutes long, caring

1126
00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: that's a clip I was playing already. No, I don't

1127
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: worry about but it goes. It goes on to where

1128
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: like the dude that's the best friend is unrepentant. He

1129
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: talked like he like when he's being interviewed. H. Clark

1130
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: is like, really you you uh cheated? This is your

1131
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: best friend's girlfriend. He's like, man, I don't give a fuck. Man,

1132
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 1: I fuck any bitch. She was giving me the pussy

1133
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: and he's like what He's like, I fuck. He was like,

1134
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: I fucking one of my daddy's bitches. I don't give

1135
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: a fuck shit, Like like no one was prepared for

1136
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: the audacity. Dude had nobody And then the girl just

1137
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: went and like put her clothes on. It was just

1138
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,439
Speaker 1: quiet most of the time, but then.

1139
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 4: Like, I mean, what can you do? You you out

1140
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,919
Speaker 4: here smelling like gramming? What can you say?

1141
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 6: Once?

1142
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: And they always try to be like, well, can that

1143
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 1: person at least talk to you so they can get closure,

1144
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 1: And when she was giving him closer, it was very

1145
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: just like listen, I told you I was in the

1146
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 1: freaking ship. I don't want to be with you, and

1147
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: like that's it, Like it's no, I don't have anything

1148
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: extra for you. I just don't want to be with

1149
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 1: you no more. And I was just like and the

1150
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: dude was like, wait, how are you, how do you?

1151
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 4: How are you dumping me with you? The one who

1152
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 4: was just cooking in the bathtub.

1153
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: It did not go how he had it planned.

1154
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 3: It did not go like listen, I might have to

1155
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 3: murder suicide in that you not of chicken and this

1156
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 3: ship about to be on TV and dump me.

1157
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 4: You don't get to dump me.

1158
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 7: And if you notice, have to let.

1159
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 4: Me dump you. Have to let me dump you.

1160
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 7: And if you notice in that clip, in that clip,

1161
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 7: the dude that's the.

1162
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: Side, dude that his face is a blurred out because

1163
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: he didn't give a fuck he signed that rights and license.

1164
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: Like I'm in these streets. Everybody know, I'm fucking y'all

1165
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: know what it is. I'll let your boy such a

1166
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: great show.

1167
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 3: My god, she must have the craziest yeast infections from that,

1168
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 3: Like she must have had an itchy.

1169
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 4: Box for for months.

1170
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 7: It's a beef flavor.

1171
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 4: Just washing that.

1172
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 2: It's like fucking sand in your koochie.

1173
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 7: Just you know what, I just realized.

1174
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: I don't even know if they've changed. They must have

1175
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: changed it by now. But do y'all remember when romen

1176
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: noodles back in the day, and noodles one of the

1177
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: flavors was literally oriental, Yes, is it still that? It

1178
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: might be that has changed.

1179
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 2: They may have. Yeah, there used to be an oriental flavor.

1180
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that can't be.

1181
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 4: That can't still be right, But like what is oriental?

1182
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 8: Like?

1183
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 4: That could be anything? Right?

1184
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: Like it right?

1185
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they still sell it. I thought they did. Yeah,

1186
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 2: they still sell it. No way.

1187
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 7: I think they're saying, yeah, it was a thing I've

1188
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 7: seen some recently.

1189
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: Oh god, what recently.

1190
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 4: I woulda go. I woulda go I loved pictures of racism.

1191
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 4: Let's do it.

1192
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: No way, Wow, those things can't be made in America anyway.

1193
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,919
Speaker 1: But oh my god, that's there's no way they're still

1194
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: selling that.

1195
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 3: If it's still if you, holy shit, it's oriental, you

1196
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 3: probably it's probably a ten year old pack.

1197
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 4: You know, nobody bought it that stoh.

1198
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 7: Is on It's on Instacart right now.

1199
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: I could get it the Lever at nine to twenty

1200
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: pm tonight from food Line if I won't, Oh my god,

1201
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: or apparently Ramen Noodles, the last motherfucker's on the planet

1202
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: that can't be canceled.

1203
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 4: They're like, wait, wait, we gotta figure this out.

1204
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 3: It depends, like, is it a situation where the people

1205
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 3: who make ramen are Asian, so they could.

1206
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 4: Say it like if I hadn't if I.

1207
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 3: Had a chicken shop and I called it nigga, it's

1208
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 3: not as bad. You know what I'm saying, because I

1209
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 3: own it, You.

1210
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 4: Know what I mean?

1211
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 2: Right?

1212
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1213
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 4: I don't know?

1214
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like where is their shop made?

1215
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:47,959
Speaker 7: I feel like that shop?

1216
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: I feel like this feels like a very much like

1217
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: how Nissan had a shop that was in South Carolina

1218
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: vibe like I bet these I bet this is just

1219
00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: like some white people own manture and and don't give

1220
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: a fuck.

1221
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 2: Y'all want me to tell you why the the wolks

1222
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 2: are too bougie to do the ramen.

1223
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 5: They when they do the rymen, they do the like

1224
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,919
Speaker 5: the five dollars bad instant robber rhymen, like they ain't

1225
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 5: trying to do no low levels robbin.

1226
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 4: They go to a Robin restaurant in Korea Town or whatever,

1227
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 4: and then you know.

1228
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 3: Get the real the real robins, so they don't. They

1229
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 3: too classy to be worried about your poor people.

1230
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 2: Come up and that's why they hadn't been canceled.

1231
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: It's a Japanese American brand.

1232
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 2: Okay, not Japanese slash American.

1233
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: How American?

1234
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 6: Uh?

1235
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: It says that Toyo Susan Kaisha Limited of Tokyo, Japan,

1236
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: founded or March twenty eight, nineteen fifty three.

1237
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 7: Is a consumer packaged food company in Japan.

1238
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: They wanted to make an international food company, so they

1239
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: went to the US in nineteen seventy two.

1240
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 4: So they American.

1241
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 3: So the American part of Japanese American named the Oriental.

1242
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm like guarantee when they just naming like

1243
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: original Flavor or some shit like, that's us that made

1244
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 1: it be like it's gotta be exotic, call it oriental

1245
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: and we just never updated it.

1246
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,959
Speaker 7: And that was this is have to stop aging hate.

1247
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: They made it through stop agent hate, not to stop

1248
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: aging how how dog like Aunt Jamma didn't make it

1249
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: through fucking George Floyd. These nigga, Wow, they call what

1250
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: do you?

1251
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 6: What do you?

1252
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 4: What are they call Jemima? It's like something Miller company.

1253
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: Or yeah, some Pearl milleriy or something some bullshit not

1254
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: good as not as good a name.

1255
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 2: And you know your mama and the mad when they're

1256
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 2: going there, what do they call Uncle Bey?

1257
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 4: Now do they call it cat daddy Rice.

1258
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: It's called Bluetooth Rice Coeople phone clip that phone clip. Yes,

1259
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: it's good coming to Crown. Yes, the Crown Royal bag.

1260
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 7: Don't even have don't even have alcohol. And this got

1261
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 7: a deck of cars.

1262
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 2: I got some dice.

1263
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: Oh man, how's how's New York? I know you moved

1264
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: from LA back home? Are you enjoying it?

1265
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 4: Yeah? You heard, you heard my parents landline. I'm not.

1266
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 4: You know, LA didn't age me that much, so you know,

1267
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 4: I'm just hanging out with my parents right now. I'm good.

1268
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 4: I love, I'm so happy. I'm so happy.

1269
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 3: I mean, the thing that's crazy is that, uh, you know,

1270
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 3: depression is in your brain, so it goes with you.

1271
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 3: So it turns out that LA wasn't the only thing

1272
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 3: making me depressed. It was my chemicals. But being here

1273
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 3: has like made my life significantly better. So New York

1274
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 3: did a really good job of trying to tamp down COVID.

1275
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 3: So now most of us have vaccinated. A good portion

1276
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 3: of New York is vaccinator. So you know, we're all

1277
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 3: going out and doing stuff, and like that makes me

1278
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 3: really happy because I've been doing stand up like crazy, and.

1279
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 4: You know, in La, there aren't the same opportunities to

1280
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 4: do stand up. People go to LA to get on TV,

1281
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 4: so it's not.

1282
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 3: The same culture around stand up comedy, you know what

1283
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Like here, I could do four or five

1284
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 3: shows a night if I wanted to, you know what

1285
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 3: I mean. But in LA, I was doing shows maybe

1286
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 3: like once every week, once every other week.

1287
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 4: And I was doing it like and it was actually

1288
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 4: costing me money to do shows because I don't know

1289
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 4: how to drive native New Yorker.

1290
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 3: So I'm paying twenty dollars in Uber to go do

1291
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 3: your show that you're only gonna pay.

1292
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 4: Me twenty dollars or ten dollars to do.

1293
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 3: So then it's like, okay, well if I round trip it.

1294
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 3: Here's me spending forty bucks to do your show. And

1295
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 3: I've been doing stand up at what twelve years at

1296
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 3: this point, so I shouldn't be paying you for stage time.

1297
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 3: So I'm really glad to be back out here. Like actually,

1298
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 3: now you mention it. You said Miss Andry with Marcia

1299
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 3: and Ray Early as one of the podcasts that I

1300
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 3: used to do.

1301
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 4: I'm still friends with Marcia. That friendship didn't break up.

1302
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 4: The podcast is.

1303
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 3: It's just because I moved to La and didn't really

1304
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 3: have time. But we are reuniting on stage together at

1305
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 3: September twenty ninth at the Ballhouse in Brooklyn, and the

1306
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 3: lineup is like so disgusting.

1307
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 4: I'm like so hype about it.

1308
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 3: So we have the Lucas Brothers, who you know, is

1309
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 3: the guys who wrote the story behind j Justus in

1310
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 3: a Black Sonaiah. They've been in twenty two Jump Street.

1311
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 3: You know those twins. They're really really great guys and.

1312
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 4: I love them, so I'm like really excited to see them.

1313
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 3: And then we got Dan Soder, who you might know

1314
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 3: is Matthew from Billions.

1315
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 4: He's gonna be on the show. And we got Shilava

1316
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 4: Shipuh is a fan favorite of y'all, Yes we love her.

1317
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 4: And we have Sydney Washington and.

1318
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 7: Who you might know, she's yeah, you just haven't had

1319
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 7: her on the show, but I love.

1320
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 4: Amazing. It's so disrespectful how beautiful she is.

1321
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 3: She's beautiful and smart, and it's just like, okay, God,

1322
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:15,919
Speaker 3: I'm looking for her flaw because you shouldn't have given

1323
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 3: her all those things and given me all of this nothing.

1324
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 4: You know.

1325
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 3: And then and then Joe Firestone, who like if you're

1326
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 3: into like alternative white hypster comedy. You might know her

1327
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 3: from like Fallon and she's done some stuff on Adult

1328
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 3: Swim and whatever. So I'm like really really thrilled, like

1329
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 3: I'm hoping we can sell it out, Like I'm so

1330
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 3: glad I'm gonna take my set, like I'm really ready

1331
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 3: to be like fully full throttled back in and.

1332
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 4: Uh so, like it's like I'm so excited like i've been.

1333
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 3: You know, it's crazy because like when I got back

1334
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 3: to New York, like I had booked all these shows.

1335
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 4: For June and I was just so depressed, like so

1336
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 4: depressed I cancel like twenty two out of like twenty

1337
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 4: five shows that month. You know, it was just like

1338
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 4: leaving La and then needing to decompress and like the world,

1339
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 4: feeling kind.

1340
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 3: Of crazy and you know, not even knowing how to

1341
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 3: do stand up no more because I hadn't done it

1342
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 3: for like a year and a half.

1343
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 4: I felt like crazy, I felt lost. But this is

1344
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 4: so embarrassing, but it's true. It's actually what I did.

1345
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 4: I was like, fuck, I don't know how to write

1346
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 4: a joke anymore.

1347
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 9: And I went on Google and I googled how to

1348
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 9: write a joke like I like saw I saw like

1349
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 9: a jud.

1350
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 3: Appetite masterclass, but I wasn't gonna pay. So then I

1351
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 3: read the article underneath it, and then it was like

1352
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 3: it was like, Oh, think about what's funny about these scenarios?

1353
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 4: And then I sat there and I just was like,

1354
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 4: what's funny about riding a plane?

1355
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 8: Now?

1356
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 4: And like suddenly I got all these.

1357
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 3: Like amazing bits because I literally had to like go

1358
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 3: back to the fundamentals, like how do you write a joke?

1359
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 4: What is funny about life? What is funny? And you know,

1360
01:06:59,440 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 4: I wasn't.

1361
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 3: I didn't have anything to talk about. All I had

1362
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 3: was reality TV for a year, you know what I'm saying.

1363
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 3: So it was like I was like I don't even

1364
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 3: know if I'm people anymore, Like how do people do people?

1365
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 3: And you know what I'm like, Like I was just

1366
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 3: this like this like reality TV, watching eating and shooting machine,

1367
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And it was like, I

1368
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 3: mean I was also high for most of twenty twenty,

1369
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 3: Like I literally wasn't experiencing.

1370
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,479
Speaker 4: Anything because I was just on weed and watching reality TV.

1371
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 3: So it's nice to like be alive and like getting

1372
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 3: to see other shows because you know, now in New

1373
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 3: York gotta be vaxed to go into venues at the time,

1374
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 3: all you have to do was like showing vaccine, but

1375
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 3: it was up to the discretion of the venue. But

1376
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 3: like it was so nice to like feel people and

1377
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 3: hear people without any sort of buffer of like electronics,

1378
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 3: you know, like zoom or whatever. It was like, oh,

1379
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 3: I hear real laughter again, Like I'm smelling people.

1380
01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 4: Again that may or may not be a good thing,

1381
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 4: but I'm you know what I'm saying, And it was

1382
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 4: just like it was it was like.

1383
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 3: I I've always loved stand up, Like It's the only

1384
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 3: thing in my entire life that I've ever committed to.

1385
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 4: Like I'm on year.

1386
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 3: Twelve of it, Like I'm I'm in love, but like

1387
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 3: I fell in love again. It's almost like renewing your vows,

1388
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Like it was just like damn,

1389
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 3: like there was magic here. That's why I did this,

1390
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Or you know I have

1391
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 3: something to say, Like I remember that I had opinions

1392
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 3: about things other than reality TV that I wanted to convey,

1393
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 3: Like you've given me ideas. The way you laughed at

1394
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 3: this part of the joke that I didn't even know

1395
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 3: what was funny made me think more about.

1396
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 4: That, you know what I'm saying. It was like, man,

1397
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:46,839
Speaker 4: I haven't even really.

1398
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 3: Explored New York in a real real way because I

1399
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 3: you know, I still need to regain my fitting, my yeah,

1400
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 3: my feeding footing, I know, English footing, and like, you know,

1401
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 3: I'm still like rekin laying friendships that I left behind

1402
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 3: or like you know, trying to smash.

1403
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 4: Niggas that I used to smash four years ago, you

1404
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 4: know what I mean.

1405
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 3: Like, but like, so I haven't like lived yet in

1406
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 3: the way that people live when I place it their home,

1407
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 3: Like I'm still you know, decompressing in that way.

1408
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 4: But the grounding thing has been my parents and and

1409
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 4: and and stand up, and I'm like so grateful for that.

1410
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 3: You never know how much you're gonna learn about yourself

1411
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 3: doing your art, but you really.

1412
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 4: Do, you know what I'm saying.

1413
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,799
Speaker 1: It's also wild because like it's so rude how niggas

1414
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 1: just like move on after you smashed from four years ago,

1415
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 1: Like what the fuck, nigga, I'm back, like Paul, you

1416
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 1: know what I'm.

1417
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 4: Saying, But well, you have to try to get them

1418
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 4: to ugg. Oh, nigga, you.

1419
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:49,759
Speaker 1: Married, you have a kid? Wow, we go with the bullshit.

1420
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 3: No, But fortunately for me, I'm dealing with men who

1421
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 3: are just as perman adolescent.

1422
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 4: As I am. So they didn't get married, they.

1423
01:09:57,960 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 2: Didn't move on, they were trying none of that.

1424
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 4: They out here and everything too.

1425
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 7: I was gonna, I was gonna let you say it.

1426
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:06,640
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be like they fuck for you

1427
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I need the fun to be there.

1428
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 2: But oh, they ain't never gonna die.

1429
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, like, uh, returning to New York working with

1430
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 1: Marsha again, who's also one of my favorite people. She's

1431
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 1: so funny. I love her Instagram. Her social media is

1432
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 1: so good. She's so good at social media and stuff.

1433
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 4: And that tampon song yeah whatever, I love her.

1434
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, so talented. Like so that was so like, it's

1435
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 7: cool to see y'all like kicking it again.

1436
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 1: I know y'all gonna do big things.

1437
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 7: How was writing like for a show?

1438
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 1: Because I want to say, when you were the last

1439
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 1: time we talked to you, you were writing for for

1440
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 1: a Black Lady Sketch show. But then y'all had season two,

1441
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 1: which is during the pandemic, Like was like, how different

1442
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 1: was that experience compared to like the first year.

1443
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:03,759
Speaker 4: So the pandemic happened right after we finished season.

1444
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 6: Two, so.

1445
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:10,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was crazy and like, uh so, yeah, the

1446
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 3: last day of the writer's room for season two was

1447
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 3: Valentine's Day twenty twenty, and I was planning to just

1448
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 3: come back to New York March. I had a play

1449
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 3: ticket and everything, and then boom, pandemic shut everything down. Wow,

1450
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 3: So like we didn't even like so you might remember

1451
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 3: like season one, I was in a couple of the

1452
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 3: sketches or whatevertys got yeah, right, so.

1453
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 4: Like they they yeah, it's like everything shut down.

1454
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 3: So we didn't even get invited to be on set

1455
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 3: anything like that because there's.

1456
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 4: All this like code. I didn't even know they would shooting.

1457
01:11:58,120 --> 01:11:59,680
Speaker 3: I didn't even know they started shooting, you know what

1458
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:02,799
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And so then and then I was like, Okay,

1459
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 3: what's going on. You know, it wasn't until like one

1460
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 3: like Quinta hit me up and you know, told me

1461
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 3: she wasn't gonna be on the second season. I was like, oh,

1462
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 3: nigas this movie.

1463
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 4: I don't even know, you know. I was like I

1464
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 4: was in a studio apartment, sit and still watch the TV.

1465
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 1: Like I didn't know what was happening.

1466
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 3: So it was like so it was it was actually

1467
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 3: really exciting when season two aired, because you know, there's

1468
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 3: a lot of stuff that you right, and even if

1469
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 3: you've written it and you submitted the final version of

1470
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 3: the script, by the time something makes it to air,

1471
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 3: they would have changed it for whatever reason.

1472
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 4: They might hire outside talent to punch up.

1473
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 3: Jokes a little bit, or maybe because of some news

1474
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 3: story that happened that would make this joke insensitive, they'll

1475
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 3: change the joke or maybe twist the end of a

1476
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 3: sketch for like budget reasons.

1477
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:59,839
Speaker 4: That happens in not just black lace schedules and everything.

1478
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 3: So like because I wasn't able to be on set

1479
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 3: to see what things happened, I was watching the show

1480
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 3: and looking for shit, like ne shit, just.

1481
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 4: Like everybody else.

1482
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 3: It was like almost crazy, you know what I mean,

1483
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 3: Like I didn't know Lacey. What's the person who they

1484
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 3: brought on. You know, I knew about Spy because when

1485
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 3: we were writing, you know, like we met her. But

1486
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 3: like it was, it was like so thrilling to see

1487
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 3: what happened, and it was actually low key inspiring because

1488
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 3: you know, Robin Bete is like one of these people

1489
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 3: who's just like.

1490
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 4: Always thinking, always created, always created, and.

1491
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 3: So it was like it was actually inspiring to see

1492
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 3: that her imagination was still going when everybody else's imagination,

1493
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 3: at least.

1494
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 4: Mine, had slowed down, you know what I mean.

1495
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 3: And like, I found that the performances of season one

1496
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 3: were incredible, but there was just some it was like

1497
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 3: a different energy buzzing around season two, I think, and

1498
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 3: I think it was just because those women were like

1499
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 3: excited to play again.

1500
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also renewal energy, which a lot of black

1501
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:02,640
Speaker 1: shows don't get. So it's like, oh shit, we got

1502
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 1: another season, like this, let's go. And then also, like

1503
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 1: Robin THEDI like her ability to just like dial into

1504
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 1: the to the to the funny, like especially like the

1505
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: slapstick type humor. We're just like taking it to the

1506
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 1: extra level, like no, I'm jumping in the car head first,

1507
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 1: and like like that kind of ship. I think just

1508
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 1: was like really a lot of the whole seasons like that.

1509
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 1: But also like I like watching and guessing which jokes

1510
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:38,679
Speaker 1: like you contributed to a road I think my favorite

1511
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:42,480
Speaker 1: schedulem last season was the one about black women representation

1512
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 1: and the focus.

1513
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, it had you all over it.

1514
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 1: I was just like, this ship is so good. I

1515
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 1: feel like I'm texting Ray right now talking about these niggas.

1516
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 1: Was so perfo and I had a ball.

1517
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 5: It was like the first season was funny, but like

1518
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 5: the second season took it up a notch. I don't

1519
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 5: know if that makes sense. It was like, oh, y'all,

1520
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 5: lint down, motherfucking bag. It was like they they just

1521
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 5: took off just running and so absolutely that I think

1522
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 5: one of my favorite ones, and the reason why is

1523
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:15,600
Speaker 5: because it reminds me of myself. The one when she

1524
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 5: walked around she told everybody, yeas girl, even though the

1525
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 5: building was running down.

1526
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 2: I was like, that's me. I was like that, that's me,

1527
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 2: that's me because I'd been like, yes, girl, I know this.

1528
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 6: Yes.

1529
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 2: I was like just me, yeah, and I started doing laughing.

1530
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 3: It was it was it was crazy that it was

1531
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:39,600
Speaker 3: crazy because you know, like I was, I was like,

1532
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 3: I guess I was, you know you, I have a

1533
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 3: fear of success. I guess it's like a thing that

1534
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 3: I have to work through, you know, low self esteem.

1535
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 4: Girl.

1536
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 1: Shit, you know what I'm saying, which is which is

1537
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 1: interesting too because you also have you put so much

1538
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 1: pressure on yourself to me, to me, so like yeah,

1539
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 1: like that's the that's a that's a hell of a

1540
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 1: cash twenty two. You got to be like right here

1541
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 1: to be happy because.

1542
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 4: It's crazy.

1543
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 3: But like so you know, there were we were like

1544
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 3: Robin and the head writer Lauren, they had like challenged

1545
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 3: us in like very specific ways for the second season,

1546
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:25,639
Speaker 3: and I was like, I kept writing sketches, I kept

1547
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,719
Speaker 3: pitching sketches that just wasn't working, you know what I'm saying,

1548
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 3: Like it just I couldn't get them to be like

1549
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 3: because you know, they would like we would pitch in

1550
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 3: the morning and if we found a sketch that was

1551
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 3: good or a good idea, and and you like they

1552
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:43,639
Speaker 3: you know, come up with the appropriate twist.

1553
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 4: You know, we're known for our twists.

1554
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,560
Speaker 3: And stuff, then Robin would send you off to go

1555
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 3: write the sketch and it would be like three days,

1556
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 3: four days in a row where I'm just sitting there

1557
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 3: like they had I'd be the only one left me

1558
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 3: and one other person would be the only one left

1559
01:16:56,240 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 3: not getting not getting any like sketches through and so

1560
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:02,720
Speaker 3: then the come on Somebody one.

1561
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 4: I'm so glad you liked that. Let me be happy

1562
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 4: because I was just sitting there.

1563
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 1: Like I think it's like at one point someone broke

1564
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 1: that leg and she's like, oh snap or something like that's.

1565
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 4: A different one. That's a different one. That's a different one,

1566
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 4: but it's the same same character.

1567
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what's like that Like that that was me

1568
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 1: like that so much they brought it into another episode.

1569
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:25,639
Speaker 3: Yes, you know, it was like I like I quit

1570
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 3: after the second season because I was going home to

1571
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 3: New York or so I thought on the the pandemic

1572
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 3: hay there for like a whole of the year.

1573
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:38,640
Speaker 1: God damn, is there like pressure now? Like because I

1574
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: don't understand the writing world, Like how does because there's

1575
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 1: no hr there's no fucking like there's no like pipeline

1576
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 1: or career path, like how do you go from a

1577
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 1: project to a project? Or like is it constantly applying

1578
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:58,719
Speaker 1: constantly uh looking you know word word on the street,

1579
01:17:58,920 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 1: Like what is that?

1580
01:17:59,840 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 6: Like?

1581
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 3: So basically what happens is it's a combination of nepotism

1582
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 3: or networking and you know, having samples. So for me,

1583
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 3: like my first writing job came because my manager works

1584
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 3: for Like, my management company is also a production company.

1585
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:22,600
Speaker 3: It's three Yards, right, and so the President's Show was

1586
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 3: being produced by three Yards. And the star of the

1587
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 3: President's Show, Anthony Tamanik, he and I share a manager. Okay,

1588
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 3: here's an easy slot for RA five. With The Good Place,

1589
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 3: my management company produced The Good Place. I also had

1590
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 3: Uta as Mike Sure, the creator of The Good Place. Oh,

1591
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 3: you need a black girl on that cat on that

1592
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:44,639
Speaker 3: writing staff. Here you go, here's one.

1593
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 4: And so it's stuff like that, like even you know,

1594
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 4: with rel my friend Kevin who passed. I loved him

1595
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 4: so much. He and I have the same agent. Okay,

1596
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 4: here's the here's you know, I knew him from stand

1597
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 4: up in New York for like ten years or whatever.

1598
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 4: Here's that, you know.

1599
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 3: And then with Black Lady Sketch Show, same ter Ray's

1600
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:07,560
Speaker 3: management company is my management company, three rs. Needed a

1601
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 3: black girl for the Black Lady writing show Black Lady

1602
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 3: sket Show for the writing staff. Okay, who are some

1603
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 3: people that are within our network, and then we can

1604
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 3: expand beyond our network. But you obviously have to have

1605
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 3: writing samples and they have to be good at the

1606
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:23,480
Speaker 3: time you know, I never intended to be an episodic

1607
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 3: TV writer or a narrative is what they call it,

1608
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 3: I guess. So it's usually enough for a stand up

1609
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 3: comic to just be really good at stand up. So

1610
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,759
Speaker 3: for the first couple of gigs I got, it was like, Okay,

1611
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:38,680
Speaker 3: she's a stand up comic. We like her stand up.

1612
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 3: She could write really good punchlines. They always want a

1613
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 3: stand up comic in a writer's room, regardless of what

1614
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 3: the show is. If it's a comedy at all, you

1615
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 3: have a leg up being a stand up comedy. I mean,

1616
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:51,719
Speaker 3: obviously you need to know how to write and structure whatever.

1617
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 3: I'm sure having attended Princeton and stuff made me.

1618
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:56,600
Speaker 4: More attracted to them because they'd be like, oh, she

1619
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 4: could figure out how to write because she's been.

1620
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 3: In these spaces. But if you can write and punch

1621
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 3: up jokes, they love you because you can. It's like

1622
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 3: television writing is fascinating because you have to bring a

1623
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:11,720
Speaker 3: certain understanding of story and you have to bring like

1624
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 3: a certain understanding of how to put things together. But

1625
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 3: you can also learn on the job, and so I've

1626
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 3: learned a lot on the job, like the way even

1627
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:25,599
Speaker 3: with Black Ladies Sketch show, like Robin made us write

1628
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 3: our sketches. Narratively, there's an ABC, there's like you can

1629
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 3: see there's a storyline and sketches, and that's not usually

1630
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 3: the case.

1631
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:36,640
Speaker 4: No shade like SNL, but SML is not going to

1632
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 4: have like an ABC. It's usually like an.

1633
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 3: Escalation of the same joke as opposed to changing the

1634
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 3: jokes or telling a story.

1635
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 4: And then having a twist ending like we do so.

1636
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 3: So yeah, So like basically how I got in is

1637
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,680
Speaker 3: being good at stand up and then having friends and

1638
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 3: homemianes and then you know, SAMP and having.

1639
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 4: Writing sample already. Like right now I'm.

1640
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:05,560
Speaker 3: Working on an audio podcast with Nia Vardalos and like

1641
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 3: so that's like what I'm doing now, and that is

1642
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 3: because I had a writing sample after my experiences and

1643
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 3: she likes me, and then we worked on the outline together,

1644
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:20,599
Speaker 3: got greenlit great.

1645
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 4: Now we're working on the audio stuff, you know, and

1646
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 4: it's like it's or the scripts.

1647
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:30,600
Speaker 3: Excuse me, it's like weird though, because television actually like

1648
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:34,720
Speaker 3: threw a monkey wrench in my like career goals or

1649
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 3: trajectory because I never started stand up.

1650
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 4: So I could be a comedy writer. Like I started

1651
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 4: staying up because I want to be a legend. I'm

1652
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:45,719
Speaker 4: a narcissist, you guys. A plan was to be Dave

1653
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 4: Chappelle mixed with Wanda Sykes. That was the plan.

1654
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:51,560
Speaker 3: And you know, I like quit after the end of

1655
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 3: Black Ay Schedule season two because I really did want

1656
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 3: to come back home and like be the legend I'm

1657
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 3: supposed to be, you know what I'm saying, Like supposed

1658
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 3: to be in the Kennedy Center and me writing for

1659
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 3: your TV show.

1660
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 4: As much as I love it, that experience wasn't riching.

1661
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 4: It's not gonna get me there, you know what I'm saying.

1662
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 7: So were were you ever tempted though by the comfort

1663
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 7: of like.

1664
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:20,720
Speaker 3: Because I know, oh my god, I've never made more

1665
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 3: money in my life, you know what I'm saying. But

1666
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 3: the thing is, you know what happens where you pour

1667
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 3: and then you get a lot of money and then

1668
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:29,640
Speaker 3: you spend it all. So I spent it all, you

1669
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, right, And maybe you know, maybe

1670
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 3: it's a self sabotage thing, but I only feel comfortable

1671
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 3: when I'm struggling. So it's just like I don't know,

1672
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 3: but like, so I'm good leaving the money because now

1673
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 3: I can chase something. I'm saying that because I have

1674
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 3: job prospects on the line, Like really, I'm just saying

1675
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 3: that right.

1676
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 4: Now because there are stuff coming. But like I'm not

1677
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 4: gonna front.

1678
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 3: There's been times where I'm like, damn, I wish I

1679
01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 3: could buy this dag shit.

1680
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 4: Maybe I should call up and be like, I'm kidding, Yeah,

1681
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 4: I'm back.

1682
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 7: Just show up at the writer's room all up in

1683
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 7: the zoo.

1684
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:10,560
Speaker 1: It's still the same act, Like it's the act, like

1685
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 1: it's the Black Lady's Courtroom sketchy exactly right.

1686
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 6: You know.

1687
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 1: The thing about as a Black Lady Sketch Show that

1688
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 1: I thought it went over a lot of people's heads

1689
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 1: was that I think a lot of people's comparison was

1690
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 1: like we see black people living color uh mad TV uh,

1691
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 1: you know, like comic views or whatever. And I'm like,

1692
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:38,640
Speaker 1: for as a sketch comedy fan, it reminded me so

1693
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 1: much of Kids in the Hall, Yes, and mister show,

1694
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 1: Like it reminded me of that type of sketch.

1695
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 7: Like you said, there was narrative of like let's let's

1696
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 7: let's like hooking with this thing.

1697
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 1: They think it's going one way, and we flip it

1698
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 1: in the in the third part of the sketch and

1699
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, ship, there's another level. And then we

1700
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 1: flip it again and there's like there's another fucking metal level.

1701
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 1: And so for me, I was really into that shit.

1702
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of people just thought Chapelle

1703
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 1: Show or some shit with black women is.

1704
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 2: Just like, that's not the same. And also I think,

1705
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, go ahead, go ahead, please.

1706
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 5: And also I think for me because and it's funny though,

1707
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 5: because everybody says that blackness is not a monolift, and

1708
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 5: everybody says that we should have all this freedom and

1709
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 5: blackness this is what I truly believe that.

1710
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 2: Like I believe that.

1711
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 5: So I'm like, whatever you present, I'm going to consume

1712
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 5: whatever you present, and didn make my judgments from there.

1713
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 5: But like Roger said, a lot of times, when it

1714
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 5: becomes black because of society and you know, because of whiteness,

1715
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 5: everybody looks at it and just assumes that it has

1716
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 5: to be presented in a certain way, and then when

1717
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 5: it's not, it's automatically rejected, versus just accepting that this

1718
01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:57,760
Speaker 5: might not be.

1719
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 2: Presented the way I think it should. Be, but it

1720
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 2: does not mean it's not good.

1721
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 5: And I think that that kind of upsets me a

1722
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 5: lot of times, particularly online, because the way they talk.

1723
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 2: They are pro black, pro black, pro black.

1724
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 5: But one of the things that really kind of upset me,

1725
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 5: particular about the first season, it was pro black, pro brack,

1726
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 5: and then when this came out all of a sudden,

1727
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,719
Speaker 5: it was judging everything around is blackness. It was judging

1728
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 5: the writers, it was judging the producers, it was judging

1729
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 5: everybody down tea.

1730
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 2: But I was like, but y'all told me online.

1731
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 4: I didn't say this.

1732
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 5: Y'all said that y'all was everybody black woman, black women,

1733
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 5: r RA rob. But yet, when you get presented something

1734
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 5: that you don't like, or you get presented something that

1735
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:44,720
Speaker 5: doesn't hit your sense of humor of pokes at black women,

1736
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:47,600
Speaker 5: because the thing about black women, we are very complex

1737
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 5: and complicated creatures and their shit is just funny to us.

1738
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 5: And I think sometimes when things are just funny to

1739
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 5: us and it's presented a lot of times people feel like,

1740
01:25:58,160 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, you're leting white people know who gus

1741
01:25:59,560 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 5: the fuk about.

1742
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 2: Because one thing about this, y'all actually had the show

1743
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 2: and there was no white people. Don't they didn't talk

1744
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:05,600
Speaker 2: about that.

1745
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:06,640
Speaker 1: I did.

1746
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 2: That put me out, like like the ship, did y'all

1747
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:11,759
Speaker 2: claim you won't you get it? And did you complain

1748
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 2: about it? And that's the thing that makes me mad.

1749
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 3: I often wonder if people have even noticed that there

1750
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 3: are no black people or no white people on the show,

1751
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 3: Like there's literally nobody but black people. And even you know,

1752
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 3: there was more men the second season, because the first season,

1753
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:28,720
Speaker 3: we wasn't even thinking about them.

1754
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:32,759
Speaker 4: Really, you know what I'm saying. You know, I've worked

1755
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 4: through that a lot.

1756
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 3: I gotta admit, Like the first season, I was arguing

1757
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 3: online all the time, Like I would see people say

1758
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 3: wild shit about the show, and I would go and

1759
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 3: be like, that's not true.

1760
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 4: You made that up. Or I would explain things, you

1761
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, and then you know.

1762
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:54,679
Speaker 3: What, So Comedy Central dropped a clip of my stand

1763
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 3: up that I had that I had done, and so

1764
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 3: I was googled or twitter searching my name to see

1765
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 3: the response to the stand up because I hated it,

1766
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 3: but my manager told me she loved it, and I

1767
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:09,719
Speaker 3: was trying to, you know, see what the people thought,

1768
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:16,719
Speaker 3: and in that I saw somebody had screenshot me arguing

1769
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 3: with them about Black Lady Sketch Show, and it was

1770
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 3: like not the day of clip dropping, just like my

1771
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 3: name was in you.

1772
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 4: Know, in the top search.

1773
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 3: At the top of my search, I saw remember when

1774
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 3: writer on a Black Lady Sketch Show raised Sonnie was

1775
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 3: arguing me about the show lolol.

1776
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 4: It was like a person keep hearing about the fact

1777
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 4: that they had made.

1778
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 3: Me jump out of my character like that, right, And

1779
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, and Shorty has these screenshots forever and

1780
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 3: I can't tell her to take it down.

1781
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 4: Because I'm doing the same thing all over again.

1782
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 3: So then I realized that I was that me fighting

1783
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 3: to prove that we black enough, that we loved black

1784
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 3: people enough to make the show whatever, which just me

1785
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 3: embarrassing myself. And I remember even Robin Thedi at one

1786
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 3: point was like, Rothfie, you got to calm down, you

1787
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:10,559
Speaker 3: know kind of thing, because I realized in retrospect, people

1788
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 3: are gonna do whatever with art that you make, whatever

1789
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 3: they want to do with it.

1790
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:16,599
Speaker 4: They're going to talk.

1791
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 3: About it how they want to talk about it. They're

1792
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 3: going to experience it how they experience, regardless of what

1793
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 3: you intended.

1794
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 4: So you got to make your art.

1795
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 3: Let people have their opinions about your art and hope

1796
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 3: that they come to the right conclusions about you. But

1797
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:32,720
Speaker 3: if you have made the art with the intention that

1798
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 3: you have and with the concern and care for the

1799
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 3: people that you love, in this case, black people, black women,

1800
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 3: the people who receive that message with people that matter.

1801
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, there's no way that

1802
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 3: I can get on Twitter and argue that I'm black

1803
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 3: and that I love black people. All I can do

1804
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 3: is present the evidence and hope that you receive it properly.

1805
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 3: And it sort of goes back to the baggage we

1806
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:59,599
Speaker 3: were talking about with reality TV. Black people watch TV.

1807
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 3: It's a different eye than everybody else. And I don't

1808
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 3: mean that in a way you know that negative or something.

1809
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 3: They just have a lot more to worry about because unfortunately,

1810
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:15,640
Speaker 3: we live in a place in time where representation of

1811
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 3: us is a reflection of us unfortunately, and so they

1812
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:24,599
Speaker 3: have something to protect, there's something that they are worried about.

1813
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:27,560
Speaker 4: I'll let them have their concern. I'll let them have

1814
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 4: their worry.

1815
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 3: I just know that it's my job to take into

1816
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:35,719
Speaker 3: consideration that worry to the point where it doesn't stifle

1817
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:37,680
Speaker 3: my art, because when it does stifle my art, I

1818
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:41,480
Speaker 3: want But it's like, Okay, as long as I'm responsible

1819
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:44,599
Speaker 3: and still honest to myself and honest about the people

1820
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 3: I love and the people I'm talking about, then you

1821
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 3: can say whatever you want about the show.

1822
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. You can have it. You

1823
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 4: can have it because the people I give a fuck

1824
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:55,839
Speaker 4: about know what I'm doing.

1825
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:58,440
Speaker 1: And it's subjective and people are projecting.

1826
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 4: So like a lot of times definitely projecting.

1827
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 1: Definitely, and a lot of times with art. That's what

1828
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:07,720
Speaker 1: I've noticed, Like, you know, I'll listen to podcasts that'll

1829
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:10,879
Speaker 1: talk about a show or something, and it was interesting

1830
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 1: knowing you and watching conversations around the show because it's like, wait,

1831
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:19,720
Speaker 1: what It's like, these are black women that only date

1832
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:24,560
Speaker 1: white men that hate You're just like, okay, so we

1833
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 1: just made up.

1834
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:28,000
Speaker 7: They went to white school where they didn't know no

1835
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 7: black people.

1836
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 10: They lived in Ohio and shit, and it's like, okay,

1837
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 10: I remember, like specifically, I remember, like I wrote a

1838
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:42,599
Speaker 10: sketch called bad Bitch Support Group, and I remember, like truly,

1839
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:45,600
Speaker 10: this is what happened with Babbage support group, Like I

1840
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 10: came in and I pitched it because I had just

1841
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 10: moved to Los Angeles.

1842
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 3: I think I had been in Los Angeles by that

1843
01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 3: point about eight my months, new ten months. And one

1844
01:30:56,439 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 3: of the things that was very hard for me is

1845
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 3: that I'm generally pretty tom boyish and and like LA

1846
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:07,679
Speaker 3: has no place for that already. You have a hard

1847
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 3: time being a black woman who's got four black grandparents,

1848
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:13,479
Speaker 3: you got four sea hair, you know what I'm saying,

1849
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:18,360
Speaker 3: Like it's hard being black in Los Angeles if you

1850
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 3: are trying to achieve success in mainstream spaces. And I

1851
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 3: had written on a white show and a black show there,

1852
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, And then you know, couldn't

1853
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 3: find black people in my daily life. But if I

1854
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 3: wanted to be around certain kinds of black people, I

1855
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 3: had to present a certain.

1856
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:35,639
Speaker 4: Way, and it was like difficult because I had nothing

1857
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 4: to do with who I am, you know, and so

1858
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:41,160
Speaker 4: I just like I didn't want to have to be

1859
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 4: a bad bitch.

1860
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 3: I just wanted to be an okay bitch sometimes, and

1861
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:50,599
Speaker 3: so like I wrote that, and then like even even

1862
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:54,560
Speaker 3: the Angela bassa character I modeled after my sister, So

1863
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:57,679
Speaker 3: I have a younger sister who is a bad ditch.

1864
01:31:57,800 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 4: Like, my sister is so fine and.

1865
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 3: She's so confident, and you know, she just looks good.

1866
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:07,120
Speaker 3: She puts herself well together. She's always she was always

1867
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 3: trying to get me to feel like a bad bitch,

1868
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So like, even the character

1869
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 3: is called Mo because my sister is most of that

1870
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:17,680
Speaker 3: and we call her MO. So like this was like

1871
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:22,240
Speaker 3: a real thing, like real life, like trying to feel

1872
01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 3: like a bad bitch and knowing bad bitches. And then

1873
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:29,000
Speaker 3: you know, even like I modeled one character after Drea

1874
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 3: from Basketball Wives and this and this and this. So

1875
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 3: then you see the first episode and you see online

1876
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 3: the response to it, and it's like, uh, Black Ladies'

1877
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:43,559
Speaker 3: schedule is so classic. You see the way that they

1878
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:45,760
Speaker 3: do it access and they trying to make fun of

1879
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:46,639
Speaker 3: ghetto girls.

1880
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 4: And I'm like, no, this is me.

1881
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:54,880
Speaker 3: This is me writing that I can't be as dope

1882
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:56,559
Speaker 3: as y'all. Can I get a break?

1883
01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:57,719
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1884
01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:03,760
Speaker 3: It's not me being like shitting on anybody. And then

1885
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:06,080
Speaker 3: you know, then they started talking about the accents that

1886
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:08,639
Speaker 3: people were putting on. It's like it's a sketch comedy show.

1887
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 3: Did you forget it's not a documentary. Sometimes we're gonna use.

1888
01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 4: A different voice than we talk with, like are you okay?

1889
01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 4: And then you know, like.

1890
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:23,240
Speaker 3: Somebody wrote a thread saying we're all like suburban women

1891
01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 3: who don't and I'm like, I grew.

1892
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:29,200
Speaker 4: Up in East New York fucking Brooklyn. What you mean suburbs?

1893
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:33,160
Speaker 3: I'm saying, it was just like it was just it

1894
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 3: was just such a bizarre thing. And then again, like

1895
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:38,720
Speaker 3: I told you before, I'm realizing that I'm arguing and

1896
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:42,400
Speaker 3: embarrassing myself. If you saw a bad bagche support group

1897
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 3: and you saw a woman who hated blackness as the

1898
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 3: impetus behind the sketch, there's nothing I could say to you.

1899
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:50,519
Speaker 4: There's nothing I can say to you.

1900
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:53,400
Speaker 3: You bringing baggage that I didn't account for, and I

1901
01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:54,880
Speaker 3: shouldn't have to, you know what I'm saying.

1902
01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:59,839
Speaker 4: And you know, like there's there's also like an element

1903
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 4: of these people.

1904
01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:08,320
Speaker 3: Were talking about a show that they had imagined in

1905
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:11,280
Speaker 3: their head. They wasn't talking about the.

1906
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:12,240
Speaker 4: Show we made.

1907
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 3: And then I realized that I hate to reduce things

1908
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,320
Speaker 3: to jealousy, but like sometimes.

1909
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:26,080
Speaker 4: Like sometimes it was people. It was sometimes people who.

1910
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:29,680
Speaker 3: Were media or like aspiring writers and shit like that,

1911
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:33,559
Speaker 3: imagining the version of the show they think they could

1912
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:36,720
Speaker 3: write that would be better, And I'm like, well, I

1913
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 3: can't fight your dreams, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1914
01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:42,639
Speaker 3: I can't argue with your imagination. I can only argue

1915
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 3: it what's there.

1916
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 7: So I mean, like, if there's a lane for that ship,

1917
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 7: go write that ship.

1918
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:54,559
Speaker 1: Because a lot of a lot of what A Black

1919
01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 1: Lady Sched show was is exactly what motherfuckers had said

1920
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:02,680
Speaker 1: was missing. So they got it and it was like, Nah,

1921
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 1: this ain't it. And it's like, okay, well then what's

1922
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:08,000
Speaker 1: wrong with it? Go write that thing that's missing and

1923
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:09,040
Speaker 1: see what you can do with it.

1924
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:11,600
Speaker 7: Because I really do think that's the truth. If it

1925
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 7: really is a blind spot in the world, feel it

1926
01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 7: feel that void because a lot of it is jealousy, and.

1927
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:21,320
Speaker 1: I think it's more, you know, I like to get

1928
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:23,800
Speaker 1: a little philosophical. I think it's a little it's more

1929
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 1: than just like jealousy, like industry wise, or I was

1930
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:29,400
Speaker 1: going to be a writer. I think now that we

1931
01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 1: have social media, everyone wants a monopoly on the narrative.

1932
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:37,639
Speaker 1: Like everyone constantly is like, I'm the protagonist of life.

1933
01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:43,280
Speaker 1: This is my platform, and I've decided that everything is

1934
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:46,560
Speaker 1: this way, Like there's no two ways about things, and

1935
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:49,840
Speaker 1: a lot of times that requires that you need antagonist.

1936
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:54,799
Speaker 1: And so when you engage with media and you've decided

1937
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 1: you're the protagonist, guess what the people who make the

1938
01:35:57,280 --> 01:36:01,560
Speaker 1: media that are antagonists. So this is you know, I

1939
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 1: still remember this person made a thread once about and

1940
01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean it does no jerks out there, but

1941
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:10,719
Speaker 1: this person made a thread about in Secure has said

1942
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:15,439
Speaker 1: the show should be about Kelly and the show should

1943
01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 1: be her going to work and then raising plants and

1944
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:23,960
Speaker 1: something something like gardening or something like that.

1945
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:28,360
Speaker 4: To make Insecure a different shows, right, but.

1946
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 1: Also horribly boring. That is horribly boring, like like like

1947
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:36,639
Speaker 1: there's a reason certain things are on TV because they work,

1948
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm mean. Right, It's like when it's like, well,

1949
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 1: a lot of Twitter people they want even in their

1950
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 1: lives and the way they write about you know, they

1951
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:49,840
Speaker 1: fictionalize their lives. They're a clean protagonist, it's all. I

1952
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:53,000
Speaker 1: have no flaws that I you know, any flaw that

1953
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 1: I have is actually like a really dope thing. Like

1954
01:36:55,479 --> 01:36:58,600
Speaker 1: I work too hard or something, but so like they'll.

1955
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:00,439
Speaker 7: Be like they'll be like, you know, it's that.

1956
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:03,880
Speaker 1: It's that at Thanksgiving clapback type thing where like my

1957
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:06,960
Speaker 1: aunt said, you know, how come we ain't had no

1958
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:07,680
Speaker 1: children yet?

1959
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:09,479
Speaker 7: And I said, how come your son in jail?

1960
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 1: And it's like and then nothing happened because the studio

1961
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 1: audience laughed and we moved on. And I think they

1962
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:22,599
Speaker 1: want that monopoly on things and and honestly, someone else

1963
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:26,439
Speaker 1: having a platform completely is a slap in the face

1964
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:27,200
Speaker 1: to their.

1965
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:30,400
Speaker 2: This is the only way to do it, and it is,

1966
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 2: and it is I think for me.

1967
01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:36,760
Speaker 5: Me and Roger watched a TV show called Batwoman. We

1968
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:40,560
Speaker 5: watch it on c W and the second season the

1969
01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:43,840
Speaker 5: Batwoman was every fucking thing that they wanted. Like when

1970
01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:45,840
Speaker 5: I tell you everything, it was every fucking thing.

1971
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 4: And tell when a show does that, by the way,

1972
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:51,960
Speaker 4: you can tell when a show goes okay, the.

1973
01:37:52,040 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 3: Online audience says, what that this is what they want

1974
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:58,519
Speaker 3: and you can always count on that show to be

1975
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 3: a less good quality when they have catered to their fans.

1976
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:09,160
Speaker 3: Where it happens in reality TV, it happens on everything Ray.

1977
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:12,760
Speaker 5: It is terrible because it was every five message and

1978
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:14,479
Speaker 5: me and Roger made a fucking running joke.

1979
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:16,720
Speaker 2: We would say message. We would literally look at each

1980
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 2: other and yell at the word message.

1981
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:21,240
Speaker 1: They tuned into like an after school session.

1982
01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:23,120
Speaker 2: Yes, it was not good.

1983
01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:25,240
Speaker 5: And the thing is, you don't watch the ship that

1984
01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:27,800
Speaker 5: you say you want, so so I had to check out.

1985
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 5: I'd be like, y'all don't know what the fuck you want.

1986
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:31,640
Speaker 2: That's that's the conclusion that I've come up things you

1987
01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:32,400
Speaker 2: don't know what you want.

1988
01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:34,960
Speaker 1: Like I said, there's certain things that exist in narratives

1989
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:37,080
Speaker 1: because they work. And one of those things is like

1990
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:40,160
Speaker 1: you need protagonists that are flawed, You need to give

1991
01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:41,080
Speaker 1: them someplace to go.

1992
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:41,880
Speaker 5: You know.

1993
01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:46,560
Speaker 1: It's it's like how these motherfuckers think they hated Insecure,

1994
01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:48,960
Speaker 1: but they actually love it just they can't wait for

1995
01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 1: the next season, but they But part of it was

1996
01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:54,600
Speaker 1: because needed to give the character of Isa somewhere to

1997
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 1: fucking go.

1998
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:57,880
Speaker 7: Like you can't start with I'm a bad bitch, I

1999
01:38:58,040 --> 01:38:58,960
Speaker 7: know everything I have.

2000
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:02,759
Speaker 4: All the fucking are so literally called insecure.

2001
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 1: It's called insecure.

2002
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:10,000
Speaker 3: And then you know, like I'm thinking of because I

2003
01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:13,120
Speaker 3: don't really watch much scripted show because it causes me

2004
01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 3: anxiety now because like now.

2005
01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:17,720
Speaker 4: Oh, I'll never write a script that good or I

2006
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:19,519
Speaker 4: can see what they're doing. Why did you do that?

2007
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:22,559
Speaker 3: You can't watch You can't watch something for pleasure once

2008
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:23,680
Speaker 3: you've been in the.

2009
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 4: Place that make it's hard now.

2010
01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:30,360
Speaker 3: But so because when I'm watching reality TV, like you know,

2011
01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:34,559
Speaker 3: like there's a similar narrative where you have a protagonist of.

2012
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:36,880
Speaker 4: The season that's usually the person in the center.

2013
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:38,639
Speaker 3: And the opening credits, like you'll have all the women

2014
01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 3: lined up and like, for example, example like for Real

2015
01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:43,960
Speaker 3: Housewives of Atlanta, they have they hold Peaches and then

2016
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:45,880
Speaker 3: it's like a lot of the women and the woman

2017
01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:50,439
Speaker 3: who is center Peach is ostensibly the protagonist of the show, right,

2018
01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:53,280
Speaker 3: and then you know you might have the number one

2019
01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 3: villain next to her or whatever. So you'll watch a

2020
01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:59,599
Speaker 3: season of a show and you'll see center Peach get

2021
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:00,439
Speaker 3: center Peach.

2022
01:40:00,439 --> 01:40:03,120
Speaker 4: Edit right, And so you read online they're like, oh

2023
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:03,879
Speaker 4: my god.

2024
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:06,120
Speaker 3: We love Porsche ken you have such a hater. Fuck

2025
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 3: can you fire Kenya blue blah blah. So you'll have

2026
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:16,360
Speaker 3: a season where production fires the villain and then you'll

2027
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 3: have online the next season it is so boring, Oh

2028
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:23,640
Speaker 3: my god, bring back or whatever, Like right now, I'm

2029
01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:26,840
Speaker 3: thinking about Real House Eves of Orange County, Tamra, Tamra

2030
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:28,040
Speaker 3: barn Or Tamar Judge.

2031
01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:30,240
Speaker 4: Now, but Tamor Judge was a terrorist.

2032
01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:34,200
Speaker 3: When I tell you, she bullied everybody, she started every fight, whatever,

2033
01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:37,479
Speaker 3: and everybody's like, fire Tamra, fire Tamra.

2034
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:39,960
Speaker 4: Well we just had a season without Tamra. Please bring

2035
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:41,719
Speaker 4: back Tambora. We miss camera.

2036
01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:46,719
Speaker 3: And you start to realize you're like, Okay, the audience

2037
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:50,320
Speaker 3: has the exact feelings they're supposed to have. They but

2038
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:54,080
Speaker 3: because they don't know how to make TV or don't

2039
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 3: have to storytell in our real life storytale, they they

2040
01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:02,720
Speaker 3: don't know that you're supposed to feel the way you

2041
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 3: feel about the protagonist, and you're supposed to feel about

2042
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:07,719
Speaker 3: the villain the way you feel about the villain.

2043
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:11,200
Speaker 4: You're supposed to hate the villain, but you need her there.

2044
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:15,120
Speaker 3: And they're sitting here thinking that, oh, they should get

2045
01:41:15,320 --> 01:41:18,400
Speaker 3: an hour of television without feeling bad.

2046
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:20,479
Speaker 4: That's not how storytelling is.

2047
01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:24,760
Speaker 1: When people say stuff like this show triggered me, and

2048
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:26,879
Speaker 1: do you talk to them about it, and you realize

2049
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:29,559
Speaker 1: it didn't trigger them. They felt an emotion that they

2050
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:33,160
Speaker 1: were supposed to deal and they thought they were supposed

2051
01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:35,799
Speaker 1: to watch an our TV and feel nothing or only.

2052
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:39,040
Speaker 4: Or only joy.

2053
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:43,080
Speaker 3: Not how storytelling works at all in an arena. That's

2054
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:45,360
Speaker 3: not how the Bible works, that's not how the Koran worst.

2055
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:52,120
Speaker 4: That's not how no story works without you feeling.

2056
01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:55,800
Speaker 3: Bad about something, whether it be something that the protagonists

2057
01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:59,280
Speaker 3: experience to their detriment that hurts you, or even feeling

2058
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:01,680
Speaker 3: bad about feeling good that the villain succeeded.

2059
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:04,000
Speaker 4: You are supposed to feel these things.

2060
01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:07,320
Speaker 3: But for some reason, I think we've gotten to a

2061
01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:12,439
Speaker 3: place where we've over sanitized or overcorrected in an attempt

2062
01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:17,559
Speaker 3: to be woke or progressive, and so now are our

2063
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:21,520
Speaker 3: vocabulary and our art and everything has to be sanitized.

2064
01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:23,280
Speaker 4: Like remember when there was like a.

2065
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:27,920
Speaker 3: Like hullaballoo online where they said, like the way the

2066
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:31,280
Speaker 3: kid acted in Moana was bad, and so we need

2067
01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:35,000
Speaker 3: to why didn'ey Disney make the girl act out this way?

2068
01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:35,600
Speaker 4: And I'm like.

2069
01:42:37,479 --> 01:42:42,840
Speaker 1: What, like, like why wouldn't they Everybody wants they love conflict,

2070
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:45,800
Speaker 1: but they want to win them all, you know what

2071
01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:48,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And they want to be It's like it's

2072
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:51,400
Speaker 1: like if you like sports, and you think to yourself, oh,

2073
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:53,880
Speaker 1: I really like the Lakers. I want the Lakers to

2074
01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:58,240
Speaker 1: win every game. Never try to is so boring, exactly,

2075
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:01,720
Speaker 1: And and so that would make it less fun in

2076
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:04,200
Speaker 1: the games that attract you when you go, I think

2077
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch basketball all the games where you're like,

2078
01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:09,639
Speaker 1: maybe they'll lose. And that's kind of what narrative fiction

2079
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:12,960
Speaker 1: is trying to give people with that feeling. But then

2080
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:17,400
Speaker 1: online is you know, people just are so out of

2081
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:19,479
Speaker 1: they don't care how the sausage is made. So they're

2082
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:22,479
Speaker 1: just so like, uh, why can't they just be winning

2083
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:24,800
Speaker 1: up all the time. It's like cause you wouldn't watch

2084
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 1: that want to watch?

2085
01:43:26,160 --> 01:43:29,880
Speaker 4: Yes, No, I truly like what series was it was

2086
01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:33,559
Speaker 4: it the Suns versus this past season. I was like, oh, man,

2087
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:35,280
Speaker 4: I didn't come here for blowout.

2088
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:39,479
Speaker 3: Games, right exactly, Sorage, you know, and like and and

2089
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:42,479
Speaker 3: so that's something I've had to learn too. Like there's

2090
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:45,439
Speaker 3: it's really crazy and it's low key wowd that my

2091
01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:47,160
Speaker 3: Twitter is still up because I've been on Twitter for

2092
01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:49,080
Speaker 3: like ten years, and I'm sure that if I went

2093
01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:52,080
Speaker 3: back to like twenty eleven, I said some stupid shit

2094
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:53,200
Speaker 3: about even.

2095
01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:55,639
Speaker 4: Things like TV and art that I would take back

2096
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:58,679
Speaker 4: now because like, you don't know till you know, it's

2097
01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:02,200
Speaker 4: you know. And I think that's also.

2098
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:05,639
Speaker 3: Another reason why I'm trying to let people have their

2099
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:10,679
Speaker 3: conversations about television and stuff uninterrupted, because I know better

2100
01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:12,920
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, and I can't be frustrated

2101
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:15,600
Speaker 3: at people for not having TV writing jobs so they

2102
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:16,120
Speaker 3: don't get it.

2103
01:44:16,280 --> 01:44:18,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about it before a long time ago,

2104
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:21,960
Speaker 1: and I was just like, these niggas not worth arguing with.

2105
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:26,360
Speaker 1: They just like they like, they'll always be somebody willing

2106
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:30,560
Speaker 1: to say something fucked up to you, especially with the

2107
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:33,320
Speaker 1: advent of the bots, because now they just automate the

2108
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:37,000
Speaker 1: shit and you'll see people arguing with Jane five seven

2109
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:40,640
Speaker 1: two nine five eight, and you're just like, you know,

2110
01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:43,320
Speaker 1: when me and BOSSI talk about I'm like, oh, you

2111
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:47,280
Speaker 1: know what that is? That person said the original thing

2112
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 1: they wanted to say, and they were seeking conflict, so

2113
01:44:51,439 --> 01:44:55,200
Speaker 1: then it didn't matter that the person who disagreed responded

2114
01:44:55,560 --> 01:44:58,000
Speaker 1: was a bot with twenty six followers, because they want

2115
01:44:58,280 --> 01:45:01,160
Speaker 1: they're still signifying to other peop people like and look

2116
01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:04,000
Speaker 1: at me, dunk on this bot because I am super right,

2117
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:06,840
Speaker 1: and I want everyone to recognize I'm right, and and

2118
01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:09,400
Speaker 1: it's what it is is deep inside they just they

2119
01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:13,000
Speaker 1: need conflict and that way, and social media was able

2120
01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:13,920
Speaker 1: to be an outlet that day.

2121
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:14,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2122
01:45:14,200 --> 01:45:18,000
Speaker 5: And also I think for me, I gotta said when

2123
01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:21,639
Speaker 5: it comes to particularly with the Black Lady Sketch Show

2124
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 5: and some other things, I look at things where for

2125
01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 5: me it's important to be seen. And when I look

2126
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:30,599
Speaker 5: at the Black Lady Sketch Show, I feel like I'm

2127
01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:31,759
Speaker 5: being seen in comedy.

2128
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:33,880
Speaker 2: And the reason why I said that is because it's

2129
01:45:33,960 --> 01:45:35,280
Speaker 2: one of the few shows out there.

2130
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:38,880
Speaker 5: Like I said, I recognize people arguing on the internet

2131
01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:39,920
Speaker 5: don't pick this up.

2132
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:41,640
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, ain't no white people on this?

2133
01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:44,800
Speaker 5: Oh, and just baillying the black men on this like

2134
01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:46,760
Speaker 5: that shit that I pick up because I go, oh,

2135
01:45:47,320 --> 01:45:49,599
Speaker 5: these are people that actually said, we're gonna look at

2136
01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:52,400
Speaker 5: it from a black woman perspective. You made jokes about hair,

2137
01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:55,760
Speaker 5: you made jokes about makeup, you make jokes about shit

2138
01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:58,479
Speaker 5: that as a black woman, I go, oh, this is

2139
01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:01,840
Speaker 5: shit that me and my mama them joke about that. Actually,

2140
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:04,840
Speaker 5: society as a whole does not give a fuck about

2141
01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:08,560
Speaker 5: Most people don't give a fuck about the black woman's friendships,

2142
01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:12,479
Speaker 5: their relationships, their bonds that they have with their fellow sisters,

2143
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:15,960
Speaker 5: because it's a very special relationship, regardless that if they're

2144
01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:19,439
Speaker 5: related to you or not. It's like a real thing

2145
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:22,040
Speaker 5: to me. And so to me, I think that's why

2146
01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:25,160
Speaker 5: I was so anger when people, particularly like I said

2147
01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:26,720
Speaker 5: like right, since we know you, I was like, oh,

2148
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:31,639
Speaker 5: y'all just making shit up because you don't know, and you're.

2149
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:33,719
Speaker 2: Purposefully going and attacking shit.

2150
01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:37,040
Speaker 5: And so for me, I felt seen, like I felt seen,

2151
01:46:37,120 --> 01:46:40,920
Speaker 5: and also and also something else for me, I realized that,

2152
01:46:42,080 --> 01:46:44,479
Speaker 5: let's say, particularly with the Black Ladies Sketchule and particularly

2153
01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:48,880
Speaker 5: how people treat online, if you actually see the humanity

2154
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:51,960
Speaker 5: of the villain, what are you mad about?

2155
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 6: Then?

2156
01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:55,000
Speaker 5: And I think people don't understand that you have people

2157
01:46:55,040 --> 01:46:57,719
Speaker 5: to go online, everybody since everybody got to be a villain.

2158
01:46:58,080 --> 01:47:01,320
Speaker 5: The villains can't have humanity the villain. The villain can't

2159
01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:05,040
Speaker 5: have an arc, the villain can't have a backstory the villain.

2160
01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 5: You can't have compassion for the villain, you know. So

2161
01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:11,840
Speaker 5: that's why all the anger is just there and it's

2162
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:14,439
Speaker 5: just lashing out because if all of a sudden you

2163
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:17,559
Speaker 5: begin to think about and care and have all these

2164
01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:20,240
Speaker 5: emotions which the Internet actually rejects emotions.

2165
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:24,600
Speaker 2: The Internet like I felt, oh shit, I felt, and instead.

2166
01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:28,760
Speaker 5: Of embracing these feelings and going through these emotions, is

2167
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:30,200
Speaker 5: reject reject rejecting.

2168
01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:31,559
Speaker 2: I'm triggered. I'm I'm trigger.

2169
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:33,880
Speaker 5: And there is such thing as truly being triggered and

2170
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 5: things that actually affect people. Yes, but a lot of

2171
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Speaker 5: times I realize online these people are not triggered. They

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01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:41,160
Speaker 5: felt something and they got upset and they did not

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01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:43,000
Speaker 5: know how to handle their emotions.

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Speaker 3: It's a controlling thing, right, there's control from And I

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01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:53,240
Speaker 3: realized that too because uh, like lately or whatever.

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01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:58,679
Speaker 4: So I'm I'm verified, Roger verified, and so like, I'm

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01:47:58,760 --> 01:47:59,840
Speaker 4: sure you get this.

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01:48:00,280 --> 01:48:01,680
Speaker 3: I think you have more followers than I do, so

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01:48:01,720 --> 01:48:03,439
Speaker 3: you probably get it more than I do, or actually not,

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01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:06,240
Speaker 3: I think about it. But there's like there's this thing

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01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:14,240
Speaker 3: where because you're verified, people feel an aggressive need to

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01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:18,720
Speaker 3: make you do with your platform what they wish they

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01:48:18,840 --> 01:48:21,080
Speaker 3: could do with theirs, right, and.

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01:48:22,600 --> 01:48:24,080
Speaker 4: So they try to control.

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Speaker 3: Like I remember I said something like Ludacris is an

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01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:35,800
Speaker 3: underrated legend that's a perfectly a perfectly innocuous thing. Ludacris

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01:48:35,960 --> 01:48:37,439
Speaker 3: is an underrated legend.

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01:48:38,200 --> 01:48:41,280
Speaker 4: Somebody says to me, underrated by who?

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01:48:42,240 --> 01:48:48,040
Speaker 3: I think what you meant to say was Ludacris. You

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01:48:48,120 --> 01:48:50,519
Speaker 3: should have worded it this way. And so I was like,

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01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:53,400
Speaker 3: I don't have to word it shit, you know what

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01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:56,280
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I said exactly what I meant to say.

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01:48:56,920 --> 01:49:00,479
Speaker 3: And this person and I shared the idea that Ludacris

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01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:01,599
Speaker 3: is a great artist.

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01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:04,800
Speaker 4: Right, it was a man lookita, So.

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01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:09,800
Speaker 3: This person and I both agree that Ludacris isn't an

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01:49:09,880 --> 01:49:13,720
Speaker 3: incredible artist and should be appreciated. Come on, but this,

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01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:17,360
Speaker 3: but this person wanted me to say that thing, this

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01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:20,240
Speaker 3: common idea that we shared, and exactly the way.

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01:49:20,280 --> 01:49:22,280
Speaker 4: They wanted to articulate it.

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Speaker 3: So why couldn't Why couldn't you just tweet on your

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01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:31,080
Speaker 3: own Twitter that Ludacris is a perfectly rated there's an.

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01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:34,559
Speaker 1: Owner, there's an ownership and an entitlement to people.

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01:49:36,439 --> 01:49:41,280
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, you, as a public figure, have to

2205
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:44,040
Speaker 4: reflect for me to the people.

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01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:46,839
Speaker 3: I can't reach the thing I want you to believe.

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01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:49,960
Speaker 3: But it's like, sir, I'm still a person, and not

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01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:51,800
Speaker 3: that I think I'm some big public figure. But I

2209
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:54,120
Speaker 3: just think that something about them seeing a blue check

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01:49:54,360 --> 01:49:56,160
Speaker 3: makes them lose their fucking mind.

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01:49:59,320 --> 01:50:02,880
Speaker 1: Is an entire of I followed you or I read

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01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:05,640
Speaker 1: whatever you roll, and now you owe it to me.

2213
01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:08,599
Speaker 1: I did you the favor and so now you owe

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01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:11,160
Speaker 1: it to me to go do my bidding, and I

2215
01:50:11,560 --> 01:50:15,519
Speaker 1: like partially feel like I own you, and I like,

2216
01:50:15,680 --> 01:50:19,200
Speaker 1: now my new high is when I see celebrities they

2217
01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:22,800
Speaker 1: feel that way about act outside of that what they

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01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:25,719
Speaker 1: want because I'm just like, it's not that I'm rooting

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01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:28,280
Speaker 1: for it, but it's just like you're not real and

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01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:31,040
Speaker 1: you have no power. This is all this is like

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01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 1: when you say I'm holding Nicki Minaja accountable, You're not

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01:50:35,160 --> 01:50:37,439
Speaker 1: holding Nicki Minaja accounab because nim Minaja know who the

2223
01:50:37,479 --> 01:50:39,880
Speaker 1: fuck you are. You're just another person on Twitter. And

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01:50:40,040 --> 01:50:44,120
Speaker 1: she's mad at her so rich, right yeah, Like she's

2225
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:46,960
Speaker 1: like what's funny is that she's as petty as as

2226
01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 1: black Twitter, but she ain't up but she ain't on

2227
01:50:50,439 --> 01:50:52,679
Speaker 1: it like she like she's just like that in real

2228
01:50:52,760 --> 01:50:56,920
Speaker 1: fucking life, like like like the the the hyper fantasy

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01:50:57,000 --> 01:50:59,320
Speaker 1: that they have of themselves as like if a motherfucker

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01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:01,840
Speaker 1: bring butter for my biscuits and it ain't right. I'm

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01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:05,000
Speaker 1: a customer out. She really has that energy. So so

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01:51:05,160 --> 01:51:08,000
Speaker 1: like whenever they en she's rich and pretty enough, yeah,

2233
01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:11,120
Speaker 1: whenever they challenge her, she just like goes the funk

2234
01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:14,720
Speaker 1: off and keeps winning, like continues to horrid things and

2235
01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:21,479
Speaker 1: win things and whatever, all of them. And when you

2236
01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:24,920
Speaker 1: see because like the baby's not an intersectional feminist, but

2237
01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:28,400
Speaker 1: somehow motherfuckers was like, I'm an intersectional feminist and I

2238
01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:28,960
Speaker 1: like him.

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01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:31,640
Speaker 7: Why isn't he espousing these beliefs? And it's just like

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Speaker 7: that's not how it ever, fucking.

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01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 1: Words, even if it did work that way, I guarant

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01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:39,560
Speaker 1: fucking tee you that it would just be pandering like

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01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:43,200
Speaker 1: that dude right there don't read Belle Hooks and he

2244
01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:43,920
Speaker 1: never will.

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01:51:45,320 --> 01:51:47,040
Speaker 3: Like you know, what's been tripping me out? You know,

2246
01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:50,120
Speaker 3: it's been tripping me out. So I was like off Twitter,

2247
01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:51,080
Speaker 3: I think most of.

2248
01:51:51,160 --> 01:51:54,120
Speaker 4: Yesterday, and I go back on maybe like at night

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01:51:54,320 --> 01:51:54,960
Speaker 4: or whatever.

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Speaker 3: And somebody so I'm like, I see John Mulaney trend, Oh,

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01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:05,080
Speaker 3: like oh what is he doing today? And it's like

2252
01:52:05,360 --> 01:52:08,880
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's like sixteen year olds melting out

2253
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:11,000
Speaker 3: that he got his girlfriend pregnant.

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01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:12,479
Speaker 4: Like did you see this?

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Speaker 3: Oh my, John mulaney apparently divorced his wife and left

2256
01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:22,600
Speaker 3: her to be with Olivia, who is not popular in

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01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:26,040
Speaker 3: the same online circles that John Mulaney is popular, ink,

2258
01:52:26,960 --> 01:52:31,120
Speaker 3: And so Olivia mund is sort of like your standard

2259
01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:33,680
Speaker 3: basic bitch, I guess, like for me anyway, she's just

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01:52:33,800 --> 01:52:36,559
Speaker 3: like pretty and they put her in stuff she's pretty,

2261
01:52:36,640 --> 01:52:40,040
Speaker 3: not because she's particularly talented or whatever. And John mullaney

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01:52:40,240 --> 01:52:45,160
Speaker 3: is like the symbol of unproblematic white man in comedy.

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01:52:45,240 --> 01:52:47,200
Speaker 4: He's the only one left, you know what I mean.

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01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:51,480
Speaker 3: And so people so like, people created this like attachment

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01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:54,120
Speaker 3: to him, that his mat because he would talk about

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01:52:54,160 --> 01:52:56,680
Speaker 3: his wife a lot on stage. So like people got

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01:52:56,800 --> 01:53:00,320
Speaker 3: overly invested in that marriage. And then you know, nobody

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01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:02,920
Speaker 3: knew that he was struggling with addiction as bad as he.

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01:53:03,200 --> 01:53:06,320
Speaker 4: Was behind the scenes or whatever, and so like he.

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01:53:06,400 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 3: Went to rehab and then he left rehab and then

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01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:12,720
Speaker 3: left his shorty quickly thereafter, and so people are like,

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01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:14,439
Speaker 3: she stayed with you.

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01:53:14,479 --> 01:53:19,240
Speaker 4: After your addiction and your laughter and you're dating and leave.

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01:53:19,120 --> 01:53:22,120
Speaker 8: You a month and I was looking pregnant.

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01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:29,519
Speaker 7: An objection keep in mind, objectively not knowing these people.

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01:53:29,800 --> 01:53:33,960
Speaker 1: Just if you replace, yeah, replace everybody's name with someone else,

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01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:36,200
Speaker 1: replaced every person with someone else. If you if I

2278
01:53:36,320 --> 01:53:40,280
Speaker 1: just told you this story, a person went to rehab,

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01:53:40,479 --> 01:53:44,040
Speaker 1: got out, got divorced, and started dating someone else, most

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01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:47,439
Speaker 1: people are gonna come to the conclusion, well, something about

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01:53:47,479 --> 01:53:53,439
Speaker 1: that relationship was probably messed, causing the addiction or feeding

2282
01:53:53,479 --> 01:53:57,160
Speaker 1: the addition. Right, and they meet and they needed to

2283
01:53:57,200 --> 01:54:00,639
Speaker 1: make some drastic changes coming out of rehab. Normal, that's

2284
01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:03,640
Speaker 1: a normal. But when you went title to a motherfucker,

2285
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:07,240
Speaker 1: You're like, you owe me this relationship, You owe us,

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01:54:07,360 --> 01:54:10,640
Speaker 1: that you owe us, your your words, you owe and

2287
01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:13,720
Speaker 1: much of this is projection. I'm just feeling in the

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01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:17,080
Speaker 1: blanks for you. You haven't actually done or said any

2289
01:54:17,120 --> 01:54:20,640
Speaker 1: of this ship, but I feel old. And now I

2290
01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:24,479
Speaker 1: saw Rihanna hung out with Nicki Minaj and her husband,

2291
01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:27,080
Speaker 1: and I've already seen the backlash online.

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01:54:27,320 --> 01:54:27,519
Speaker 6: One.

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01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:31,840
Speaker 3: I'm so disappointed in you, right you, Yeah, like Rihanna

2294
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:33,880
Speaker 3: don't know you so already mad.

2295
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:35,880
Speaker 4: That she's with Asaf Rocky, who.

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01:54:35,840 --> 01:54:36,680
Speaker 6: Is right.

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01:54:38,960 --> 01:54:39,720
Speaker 1: Right exactly?

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01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:42,200
Speaker 7: I thought, I mean that that's a beautiful couple, like

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01:54:42,360 --> 01:54:44,040
Speaker 7: that's but it's like you look at.

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01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:45,800
Speaker 1: That couple, and you're just like, that could be the

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01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:50,560
Speaker 1: cover of like some uh, that could be the still

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01:54:50,760 --> 01:54:53,760
Speaker 1: for like some exotic porn that everyone paid a lot

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01:54:53,800 --> 01:54:54,200
Speaker 1: of money for.

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01:54:54,480 --> 01:54:57,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, some like sex books.

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01:54:57,440 --> 01:54:58,240
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly.

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01:54:58,640 --> 01:55:01,000
Speaker 7: And and I don't mean like the sketchy porn, I

2307
01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:02,040
Speaker 7: mean like sex.

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01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:02,720
Speaker 1: Art or whatever.

2309
01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:09,360
Speaker 2: Like the ship, they put real production behind.

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01:55:09,080 --> 01:55:13,560
Speaker 1: It, Blessed's House. This is a porn for women, y'all?

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01:55:13,640 --> 01:55:17,120
Speaker 1: Do some like like they're that pretty? Like the porn

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01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:19,480
Speaker 1: did the make up for the man too? Like that pretty?

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01:55:20,120 --> 01:55:22,640
Speaker 1: And then and then but people are like, but we

2314
01:55:22,800 --> 01:55:25,640
Speaker 1: don't like him or you know the one I saw

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01:55:25,680 --> 01:55:27,280
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. It made me laugh so

2316
01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:30,040
Speaker 1: hard because I thought, this is the most delusional thing

2317
01:55:30,120 --> 01:55:32,960
Speaker 1: I read the day. But it was people posting about

2318
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:34,920
Speaker 1: how Beyonce should leave jay Z.

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01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:38,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I'm like, they're fucking like four kids deep

2320
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:39,200
Speaker 7: or some shit.

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01:55:39,120 --> 01:55:43,320
Speaker 4: Like do you understand since two thousand and one or

2322
01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:43,880
Speaker 4: something like.

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01:55:43,880 --> 01:55:46,280
Speaker 1: That, do you understand how insane that would be for

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01:55:46,360 --> 01:55:49,320
Speaker 1: her to throw her marriage away for Twitter like not,

2325
01:55:49,480 --> 01:55:52,120
Speaker 1: because like they made it through everything else.

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01:55:52,520 --> 01:55:54,560
Speaker 7: But then one day Twitter woke up and was like

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01:55:54,720 --> 01:55:56,280
Speaker 7: I don't like what he had to say.

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01:55:56,360 --> 01:55:56,840
Speaker 1: About but.

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01:55:58,440 --> 01:55:59,320
Speaker 2: I don't want to file.

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01:55:59,440 --> 01:56:01,720
Speaker 1: I won't five hundred thousand dollars not a lunch with him.

2331
01:56:02,120 --> 01:56:04,040
Speaker 1: You should break up with you, You should break up

2332
01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:06,360
Speaker 1: your marriage. And I was like the fact that y'all

2333
01:56:06,360 --> 01:56:09,440
Speaker 1: are talking about these people like they're a stock or like, yeah,

2334
01:56:09,480 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 1: you can, like like you can change their mind by

2335
01:56:12,920 --> 01:56:14,960
Speaker 1: day they want to return on the investment. Yeah, you

2336
01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:17,360
Speaker 1: can write a medium piece that Beyonce will read and

2337
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:18,280
Speaker 1: change our whole life.

2338
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:21,400
Speaker 7: The fact that you think that something's actually wrong.

2339
01:56:21,240 --> 01:56:23,120
Speaker 4: With you, it's an insanity.

2340
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:26,000
Speaker 3: It's an insanity, like and I excuse me, I need

2341
01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:28,560
Speaker 3: that in the least problematic sense of the word. I

2342
01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:31,480
Speaker 3: don't like diagnose society. You know, I don't know what

2343
01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:35,080
Speaker 3: words are, okay, because I call someone crazy and Twitter

2344
01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:36,560
Speaker 3: try to give me about of here, they try to

2345
01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:39,000
Speaker 3: cancel me. They call me ablest because I said crazy.

2346
01:56:39,080 --> 01:56:41,560
Speaker 4: So I don't know, but they.

2347
01:56:41,520 --> 01:56:42,320
Speaker 1: Got to it first.

2348
01:56:42,600 --> 01:56:43,000
Speaker 7: They got it.

2349
01:56:43,160 --> 01:56:45,280
Speaker 1: It's about it's about getting to the panic button first.

2350
01:56:45,320 --> 01:56:47,080
Speaker 1: That's what happened exactly.

2351
01:56:47,160 --> 01:56:49,000
Speaker 7: Like they could call you anything they wanted.

2352
01:56:48,840 --> 01:56:51,200
Speaker 1: Like this rich and title white supremacist, and you're like,

2353
01:56:51,640 --> 01:56:53,480
Speaker 1: that's crazy to call me that, And they're.

2354
01:56:53,320 --> 01:56:56,800
Speaker 7: Like oh, I would know.

2355
01:56:57,760 --> 01:57:02,480
Speaker 3: It's crazy, Like I mean, even there was one I joked,

2356
01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:05,280
Speaker 3: Oh my god, this is the most controlling shit I've

2357
01:57:05,320 --> 01:57:05,760
Speaker 3: ever seen.

2358
01:57:06,360 --> 01:57:08,000
Speaker 4: There was I joked.

2359
01:57:08,040 --> 01:57:11,160
Speaker 3: I was like, being depressed in New York is way

2360
01:57:11,240 --> 01:57:13,120
Speaker 3: more fun than being depressed in l A.

2361
01:57:13,880 --> 01:57:18,280
Speaker 4: I tweeted that because it's true for me. I It's

2362
01:57:18,560 --> 01:57:19,920
Speaker 4: just true, but not for me.

2363
01:57:20,200 --> 01:57:24,560
Speaker 1: Ray, I'm reading your tweet and for everybody, and I

2364
01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:27,200
Speaker 1: actually am jumping off a bridge as you write this,

2365
01:57:27,560 --> 01:57:29,280
Speaker 1: and it's your fault.

2366
01:57:29,600 --> 01:57:29,760
Speaker 4: Sin.

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01:57:30,160 --> 01:57:31,640
Speaker 1: I wasn't going to jump off the bridge, but I

2368
01:57:31,680 --> 01:57:32,240
Speaker 1: read your tweet.

2369
01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:35,080
Speaker 3: But then there was a person who spent so I

2370
01:57:35,160 --> 01:57:38,160
Speaker 3: tweeted that after a show I had done on a Thursday,

2371
01:57:38,280 --> 01:57:40,040
Speaker 3: right like I had done this show, I had a

2372
01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:43,040
Speaker 3: fucking blast doing the show, and I was drunk and

2373
01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:47,720
Speaker 3: like I had done like a ten block walk just

2374
01:57:47,800 --> 01:57:50,040
Speaker 3: to get a bacon, egg and cheese at like midnight,

2375
01:57:50,120 --> 01:57:53,920
Speaker 3: which was so fun to do, Like yeah, blast, And

2376
01:57:54,040 --> 01:57:54,360
Speaker 3: then like.

2377
01:57:55,440 --> 01:57:57,760
Speaker 4: You know, then the next day, like someone spent the

2378
01:57:57,880 --> 01:58:00,720
Speaker 4: whole day, whole day.

2379
01:58:01,200 --> 01:58:05,040
Speaker 3: Tweeting at me, like, well, if if your depression can

2380
01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:08,400
Speaker 3: change according to your location, then it's not depression.

2381
01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:16,000
Speaker 1: Wall Comedian looking at your bio comedian writer that fashioned

2382
01:58:16,240 --> 01:58:19,880
Speaker 1: her pain into a joke. Excuse me, but I'm gonna

2383
01:58:19,880 --> 01:58:20,640
Speaker 1: take it serious.

2384
01:58:21,560 --> 01:58:24,160
Speaker 4: I was like, I was like, first of all, that's

2385
01:58:24,240 --> 01:58:25,040
Speaker 4: like not true.

2386
01:58:26,760 --> 01:58:30,760
Speaker 3: Depression is a chemical balance for sure, but talk therapy

2387
01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:34,480
Speaker 3: exists because there are things other than change your brain

2388
01:58:34,680 --> 01:58:36,280
Speaker 3: can be that you can do.

2389
01:58:38,120 --> 01:58:39,760
Speaker 4: But like, yeah, changing your.

2390
01:58:39,680 --> 01:58:42,280
Speaker 3: Surroundings and doing things that make you happy will affect

2391
01:58:42,400 --> 01:58:44,760
Speaker 3: your depression, Like what are you talking about?

2392
01:58:44,920 --> 01:58:46,920
Speaker 4: So it was just factually inaccurate.

2393
01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:50,240
Speaker 3: But also because I don't experience depression the way you

2394
01:58:50,440 --> 01:58:53,240
Speaker 3: experience it, or I don't talk about it the way

2395
01:58:53,280 --> 01:58:56,040
Speaker 3: that you would want me to talk about it, it's invalid.

2396
01:58:56,240 --> 01:58:59,640
Speaker 3: Like that was the most controlling thing I had ever seen,

2397
01:58:59,840 --> 01:59:03,680
Speaker 3: Like I'm not allowed to talk about my own ailment

2398
01:59:04,640 --> 01:59:07,360
Speaker 3: people that it is inappropriate.

2399
01:59:06,840 --> 01:59:10,040
Speaker 7: For people talk about parasocial relationships.

2400
01:59:10,120 --> 01:59:13,480
Speaker 1: But what Twitter and social media has provided us is

2401
01:59:13,520 --> 01:59:19,840
Speaker 1: the ability to have abusive parasocial relationships. So parasocial is

2402
01:59:19,960 --> 01:59:23,320
Speaker 1: like when you decide like I like Lady Ga Ga

2403
01:59:24,160 --> 01:59:27,880
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna act like we're friends. Oh you see

2404
01:59:27,880 --> 01:59:29,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like because I'm a fan of her music.

2405
01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:33,040
Speaker 1: Now it's like, oh my god, did you say, lady gang,

2406
01:59:33,120 --> 01:59:35,840
Speaker 1: I got married and it's very and it's very common now,

2407
01:59:36,040 --> 01:59:39,360
Speaker 1: Like you know, Cardon Cardi B has a baby.

2408
01:59:39,440 --> 01:59:41,280
Speaker 7: Niggas act like they had the baby with them.

2409
01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:44,760
Speaker 3: Oh yes, you know what was tripping me out everybody

2410
01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:46,440
Speaker 3: wishing beyonce birthday.

2411
01:59:46,520 --> 01:59:51,120
Speaker 4: Like I saw pictures of people like this woman posted

2412
01:59:51,200 --> 01:59:53,760
Speaker 4: a video. This is actually really funny.

2413
01:59:53,920 --> 01:59:58,920
Speaker 3: Like somebody posted a video of a woman giving a

2414
01:59:59,040 --> 02:00:02,760
Speaker 3: birthday cake to her daughters for Beyonce's birthday.

2415
02:00:02,840 --> 02:00:05,360
Speaker 4: And I was about to comment that, oh, this is

2416
02:00:05,480 --> 02:00:07,720
Speaker 4: really weird, but I had seen that. My friend already

2417
02:00:07,800 --> 02:00:10,800
Speaker 4: commented underneath and was like, I love this. Wish I

2418
02:00:10,920 --> 02:00:11,240
Speaker 4: could have.

2419
02:00:13,080 --> 02:00:15,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, I saw somebody. People were asking stuff like.

2420
02:00:17,360 --> 02:00:19,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, people were saying like what are we wearing for

2421
02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:22,920
Speaker 1: her birthday? How are you gonna celebrate her birthday? And

2422
02:00:23,280 --> 02:00:26,920
Speaker 1: like what, I openly admit and I talk about it

2423
02:00:26,920 --> 02:00:30,000
Speaker 1: a lot. I'm just not one of those celebrity people.

2424
02:00:30,120 --> 02:00:33,760
Speaker 1: I just I'm not saying it's bad or wrong, it's

2425
02:00:33,840 --> 02:00:36,200
Speaker 1: just I don't I've never been like that. When I

2426
02:00:36,320 --> 02:00:39,320
Speaker 1: was a kid and I liked basketball, Charles Barker was

2427
02:00:39,400 --> 02:00:42,120
Speaker 1: my favorite player. If that motherfucker said something whack, I'm

2428
02:00:42,120 --> 02:00:44,360
Speaker 1: like he says, I whack shit. I don't know moving on,

2429
02:00:44,760 --> 02:00:48,800
Speaker 1: still a good basketball player, but I think the parasocial

2430
02:00:49,000 --> 02:00:51,800
Speaker 1: element of it has gotten so out of control that

2431
02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:56,640
Speaker 1: people now have it's an abusive relationship, like and it's

2432
02:00:56,800 --> 02:01:00,240
Speaker 1: all imaginary, right, These people don't know you exist. It's

2433
02:01:00,280 --> 02:01:03,280
Speaker 1: like this abusive thing of like I'm gonna attack you,

2434
02:01:03,440 --> 02:01:06,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say negative things about you. How fucking dare you?

2435
02:01:06,840 --> 02:01:09,680
Speaker 1: I liked your album and then you did the wrong

2436
02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:12,520
Speaker 1: thing or you said the wrong thing, and and and

2437
02:01:12,800 --> 02:01:16,320
Speaker 1: the reason I say abusive is because it's gotten so controlling.

2438
02:01:16,880 --> 02:01:19,760
Speaker 1: We're not even talking about growth violations anymore. And we're

2439
02:01:19,800 --> 02:01:22,080
Speaker 1: not even talking about things that aren't understandable.

2440
02:01:22,240 --> 02:01:24,720
Speaker 4: Like it's like it can be all gonna take my

2441
02:01:24,840 --> 02:01:27,320
Speaker 4: cheating husband back if I leave? Offset who am an

2442
02:01:27,400 --> 02:01:29,400
Speaker 4: go to? Right, that's all set.

2443
02:01:29,480 --> 02:01:33,720
Speaker 3: You're gonna provide me another man that matches me. We're compatible, Like,

2444
02:01:34,000 --> 02:01:35,440
Speaker 3: are you gonna present me with this?

2445
02:01:35,560 --> 02:01:37,800
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? Stop saying I shouldn't have

2446
02:01:37,880 --> 02:01:39,040
Speaker 4: a baby with my husband.

2447
02:01:39,080 --> 02:01:41,440
Speaker 1: She might love that nigga. She might love that nigga.

2448
02:01:41,480 --> 02:01:44,920
Speaker 3: Some people got you know, and we all know women

2449
02:01:45,240 --> 02:01:50,040
Speaker 3: who go back to Asia nigga because we like Hillary

2450
02:01:50,240 --> 02:01:50,800
Speaker 3: liked that nigga.

2451
02:01:51,080 --> 02:01:52,560
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like.

2452
02:01:54,240 --> 02:01:58,480
Speaker 1: Right, like they they fucked up within a acceptable range

2453
02:01:58,640 --> 02:02:01,840
Speaker 1: of fuck ups in that person, since not for us,

2454
02:02:02,040 --> 02:02:05,080
Speaker 1: it's not for me to determine, like that's unacceptable, it's

2455
02:02:05,200 --> 02:02:08,680
Speaker 1: unacceptable for me and my relationship. But I'm not dating offset.

2456
02:02:09,080 --> 02:02:11,880
Speaker 1: So I think that's I think that's a big part

2457
02:02:11,960 --> 02:02:15,840
Speaker 1: of it. And it's become so like it's become so

2458
02:02:16,120 --> 02:02:18,560
Speaker 1: normalized that it's actually out of control.

2459
02:02:18,760 --> 02:02:21,960
Speaker 7: And so the weirdose are the people like us.

2460
02:02:21,920 --> 02:02:26,920
Speaker 1: That are saying, yeah, I don't actually know Beyonce, so uh,

2461
02:02:28,600 --> 02:02:31,320
Speaker 1: I'll be wearing the same shirt I always wear or whatever,

2462
02:02:31,360 --> 02:02:33,240
Speaker 1: you know, Like yeah, exactly.

2463
02:02:33,360 --> 02:02:36,560
Speaker 5: And I think for me, a lot of people fit

2464
02:02:36,600 --> 02:02:39,240
Speaker 5: to realize, like I love Beyonce and it's been time.

2465
02:02:39,280 --> 02:02:42,360
Speaker 5: When her birthday comes up, I will actually say, here's

2466
02:02:42,440 --> 02:02:44,640
Speaker 5: a bunch of sexy pictures of Beyonce because I just

2467
02:02:44,760 --> 02:02:47,280
Speaker 5: like looking at Beyonce and I go have birthday Beyonce, and.

2468
02:02:47,360 --> 02:02:50,000
Speaker 2: That is literally the end of it for me, you know.

2469
02:02:50,480 --> 02:02:52,200
Speaker 5: And so but I think for some people, like right

2470
02:02:52,280 --> 02:02:54,040
Speaker 5: just say they almost like they take it to the

2471
02:02:54,280 --> 02:02:56,960
Speaker 5: next what the like I said.

2472
02:02:56,840 --> 02:03:00,280
Speaker 1: The abusive part of the parasocial relationship is, like I said,

2473
02:03:00,280 --> 02:03:03,080
Speaker 1: it's very controlling. It's like when you talk to somebody

2474
02:03:03,120 --> 02:03:05,680
Speaker 1: who's in a who's an abuser in a relationship, and

2475
02:03:05,680 --> 02:03:09,720
Speaker 1: they're like, where you going? What was your phone? And

2476
02:03:09,800 --> 02:03:12,080
Speaker 1: I think that's how people are treating the celebrities like

2477
02:03:12,840 --> 02:03:16,960
Speaker 1: Rihanna hung out with Nicki Minaj. These motherfuckers are living

2478
02:03:17,160 --> 02:03:18,960
Speaker 1: and it's just like, I don't know what to tell y'all.

2479
02:03:19,000 --> 02:03:21,280
Speaker 1: Y'all never knew them, y'all.

2480
02:03:21,160 --> 02:03:23,320
Speaker 7: Never knew anyone involved in this situation.

2481
02:03:25,320 --> 02:03:28,080
Speaker 1: You exist, y'all, like her clothes, y'all, like you know,

2482
02:03:28,200 --> 02:03:32,560
Speaker 1: like America, none of this was ever real. So for like,

2483
02:03:32,720 --> 02:03:37,960
Speaker 1: for you to be disappointed, it implies an attachment, like

2484
02:03:38,600 --> 02:03:40,880
Speaker 1: I could be disappointed in like my friend.

2485
02:03:41,480 --> 02:03:44,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, I could be disappointed in myself. I could be disappointed.

2486
02:03:44,800 --> 02:03:47,600
Speaker 7: But the other part of it that I think is psychotic.

2487
02:03:48,520 --> 02:03:51,760
Speaker 3: I think you can be disappointed, right because you can

2488
02:03:51,840 --> 02:03:56,040
Speaker 3: be maybe disappointed is a word that implies too much intimacy,

2489
02:03:56,120 --> 02:03:58,120
Speaker 3: but you can be let down right, Like if you're

2490
02:03:58,160 --> 02:04:00,600
Speaker 3: invested in a brand, I could see how if somebody

2491
02:04:00,720 --> 02:04:03,880
Speaker 3: goes against the thing they've sold you why you wouldn't

2492
02:04:03,920 --> 02:04:05,080
Speaker 3: want to purchase anymore?

2493
02:04:05,160 --> 02:04:07,520
Speaker 4: Right, But that has nothing to do with their personal life.

2494
02:04:07,600 --> 02:04:10,800
Speaker 3: It's like the brand, right, Like, so it's like I, like,

2495
02:04:11,040 --> 02:04:14,200
Speaker 3: I know that Nicki Minaj has been accused of terrible

2496
02:04:14,320 --> 02:04:17,920
Speaker 3: things with her and her husband. So it's like, I

2497
02:04:18,640 --> 02:04:22,640
Speaker 3: it's a bummer that Rihanna don't care. But like I,

2498
02:04:23,440 --> 02:04:26,320
Speaker 3: Rihanna sold me makeup in a couple of songs. She

2499
02:04:26,400 --> 02:04:30,400
Speaker 3: didn't sell me the same morality that I have, you

2500
02:04:30,480 --> 02:04:30,920
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

2501
02:04:31,520 --> 02:04:33,600
Speaker 4: So, like I could see why somebody would be like,

2502
02:04:33,680 --> 02:04:35,600
Speaker 4: I don't want to fuck with that no more. But

2503
02:04:35,720 --> 02:04:38,640
Speaker 4: I don't see how yelling at her she shouldn't be

2504
02:04:38,720 --> 02:04:41,360
Speaker 4: friend with her friends with her friends is gonna do anything.

2505
02:04:41,520 --> 02:04:43,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's what I'm saying. Is like when

2506
02:04:43,480 --> 02:04:47,160
Speaker 1: I say disappointment is the it's the it's the the

2507
02:04:47,280 --> 02:04:50,400
Speaker 1: emphasis they had that it has. Yeah yeah, yeah, you

2508
02:04:51,000 --> 02:04:54,040
Speaker 1: put too much in this cup if you're disappointed, like

2509
02:04:55,640 --> 02:04:56,760
Speaker 1: especially in something like that.

2510
02:04:57,080 --> 02:05:00,880
Speaker 7: Like, I think what happens is that people are actually angry,

2511
02:05:01,680 --> 02:05:02,480
Speaker 7: and yeah.

2512
02:05:02,400 --> 02:05:03,080
Speaker 4: That's weird.

2513
02:05:03,320 --> 02:05:05,960
Speaker 1: They need they need a they need a thing to

2514
02:05:06,040 --> 02:05:08,240
Speaker 1: be angry at every day because they're angry at just

2515
02:05:08,400 --> 02:05:12,800
Speaker 1: life and one of the things I was thinking about

2516
02:05:13,520 --> 02:05:17,600
Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks with Shikari Richardson and

2517
02:05:18,200 --> 02:05:21,920
Speaker 1: uh Naomi Osaka. I think a lot of people are

2518
02:05:22,000 --> 02:05:25,840
Speaker 1: actually disappointed in them, but it's going through all these

2519
02:05:25,920 --> 02:05:29,200
Speaker 1: filters in their brain that's coming out and going fuck.

2520
02:05:29,280 --> 02:05:31,360
Speaker 1: The rest of the world is no, they can do

2521
02:05:31,520 --> 02:05:35,880
Speaker 1: no wrong, nothing, It's everyone else's fault. But because on

2522
02:05:35,960 --> 02:05:38,360
Speaker 1: a on a deep level, a lot of them like

2523
02:05:38,480 --> 02:05:43,320
Speaker 1: that representational politics of look at this black woman being excellent.

2524
02:05:43,560 --> 02:05:47,320
Speaker 3: They never that's so weird because it was like I

2525
02:05:47,400 --> 02:05:51,160
Speaker 3: think I was like, damn, when Simone pulled out of

2526
02:05:51,280 --> 02:05:55,440
Speaker 3: the all around, I'm so nervous for her because I

2527
02:05:55,560 --> 02:05:58,880
Speaker 3: remember being like, please don't do Simone. How y'all did

2528
02:05:59,040 --> 02:06:04,520
Speaker 3: Naomi like, because I remember seeing and then you talked

2529
02:06:04,560 --> 02:06:06,120
Speaker 3: about it on the podcast and I was like, Okay,

2530
02:06:06,280 --> 02:06:08,560
Speaker 3: here's somebody who's articulating.

2531
02:06:07,960 --> 02:06:08,840
Speaker 4: What was in my brain.

2532
02:06:09,040 --> 02:06:16,160
Speaker 3: Well, because I remember being like, she didn't say any

2533
02:06:16,240 --> 02:06:18,640
Speaker 3: of the things y'all are saying about her, right, she

2534
02:06:18,680 --> 02:06:20,280
Speaker 3: didn't say a single.

2535
02:06:19,960 --> 02:06:23,200
Speaker 4: One of those things. I remember even you know, even

2536
02:06:23,280 --> 02:06:26,600
Speaker 4: with Simone Biles, they were like, you keep saying that

2537
02:06:26,760 --> 02:06:30,280
Speaker 4: black women don't get to feel bull buhah bh. It's

2538
02:06:30,400 --> 02:06:34,240
Speaker 4: so hard being a black woman having to represent this

2539
02:06:34,560 --> 02:06:36,640
Speaker 4: country in the Olympics.

2540
02:06:36,280 --> 02:06:38,520
Speaker 1: When it tries to kill you every day.

2541
02:06:38,680 --> 02:06:41,440
Speaker 3: And I was, like, I said, Simone said she can't flip,

2542
02:06:41,800 --> 02:06:43,320
Speaker 3: but she didn't say nothing about all that.

2543
02:06:43,560 --> 02:06:46,040
Speaker 1: She literally said, I'm scared. I'm gonna break my fucking

2544
02:06:46,120 --> 02:06:49,400
Speaker 1: neck because I'm having some actual like I'm having some issues.

2545
02:06:49,480 --> 02:06:52,000
Speaker 1: This is not about me, but that's so, this is

2546
02:06:52,040 --> 02:06:55,000
Speaker 1: what I was saying. So I think we get it's

2547
02:06:55,000 --> 02:06:58,560
Speaker 1: all coming back together, right, It's we're all the protagonists,

2548
02:06:58,680 --> 02:07:02,440
Speaker 1: so then we need antagonists, right every situation. We're trying

2549
02:07:02,480 --> 02:07:06,320
Speaker 1: to get this representational shit off. So it was this

2550
02:07:06,480 --> 02:07:09,080
Speaker 1: black woman is representing all black women, even though we

2551
02:07:09,160 --> 02:07:12,240
Speaker 1: say that's not real, right, we say that's not everyone's

2552
02:07:12,240 --> 02:07:15,040
Speaker 1: an individual and we shouldn't have but it was this

2553
02:07:15,200 --> 02:07:15,720
Speaker 1: black woman.

2554
02:07:15,880 --> 02:07:17,320
Speaker 7: All three of these black women are excellent.

2555
02:07:17,360 --> 02:07:19,720
Speaker 1: They're about to kick everybody's ass, and then these athletics

2556
02:07:20,400 --> 02:07:24,520
Speaker 1: and then something went wrong, right, whether internally whatever, The

2557
02:07:24,640 --> 02:07:28,280
Speaker 1: optics were not going to be the smooth kick everybody's

2558
02:07:28,320 --> 02:07:32,560
Speaker 1: as right, so now it was done right. And so

2559
02:07:32,800 --> 02:07:37,360
Speaker 1: then I think what happened internally was they experienced disappointment,

2560
02:07:38,120 --> 02:07:40,040
Speaker 1: which like, and I'm not saying.

2561
02:07:40,000 --> 02:07:42,680
Speaker 4: In an angry attached disapointment.

2562
02:07:42,760 --> 02:07:45,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was this, Oh my god, they're not the

2563
02:07:45,480 --> 02:07:47,640
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to happen. Isn't going the way I

2564
02:07:47,760 --> 02:07:50,600
Speaker 1: want so, which is fine.

2565
02:07:51,800 --> 02:07:53,000
Speaker 7: Now you're but then the.

2566
02:07:54,360 --> 02:07:56,480
Speaker 3: Way you expect them, But you can't be you have

2567
02:07:56,600 --> 02:07:59,600
Speaker 3: a healthy relationship with that. We need to be like, Okay,

2568
02:08:00,520 --> 02:08:04,280
Speaker 3: sometimes you gotta take an l like we and so you.

2569
02:08:04,400 --> 02:08:09,440
Speaker 1: Can't be angry. You can't be angry at them obviously

2570
02:08:09,920 --> 02:08:12,640
Speaker 1: because you've done so. Now you have to be angry

2571
02:08:12,680 --> 02:08:15,480
Speaker 1: at everyone else, and then you have to turn it

2572
02:08:15,560 --> 02:08:17,440
Speaker 1: into win loss and win losses.

2573
02:08:18,320 --> 02:08:22,080
Speaker 7: It's the media's fault. Press conferences are all bullshit.

2574
02:08:22,360 --> 02:08:23,320
Speaker 1: No one wants to see it.

2575
02:08:23,640 --> 02:08:25,600
Speaker 4: That means you then get to yell at me for

2576
02:08:25,720 --> 02:08:27,440
Speaker 4: not seeing it the way you see it exactly.

2577
02:08:27,640 --> 02:08:30,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, well you're you're an antagonist.

2578
02:08:30,360 --> 02:08:35,680
Speaker 1: Now everybody's an antagonist if they're not on message the messages.

2579
02:08:36,240 --> 02:08:39,680
Speaker 7: The protagonist was sabotaged you, it's not.

2580
02:08:39,960 --> 02:08:45,040
Speaker 1: Naomi has seems to have anxiety and crippling depression that

2581
02:08:45,280 --> 02:08:48,760
Speaker 1: is flaring up at the exact like very inopportunity.

2582
02:08:48,760 --> 02:08:48,920
Speaker 5: Tom.

2583
02:08:49,040 --> 02:08:51,520
Speaker 4: It can't be that no, we just have to eliminate

2584
02:08:51,600 --> 02:08:52,440
Speaker 4: press conferences.

2585
02:08:52,520 --> 02:08:54,000
Speaker 7: Now, no press conferences.

2586
02:08:54,440 --> 02:08:59,200
Speaker 3: They make her uncomfortable for a specific reason. We all

2587
02:08:59,280 --> 02:09:01,360
Speaker 3: must lose them because she reflects all of us.

2588
02:09:04,200 --> 02:09:05,560
Speaker 1: In sports, you can.

2589
02:09:07,320 --> 02:09:10,240
Speaker 3: So that's also a crazy thing, Like I mean, I

2590
02:09:10,400 --> 02:09:12,400
Speaker 3: know that that's something that you two talk about a

2591
02:09:12,480 --> 02:09:14,600
Speaker 3: lot on the podcast where it's just like the lack

2592
02:09:14,640 --> 02:09:16,760
Speaker 3: of nuance, you know what I'm saying, And so like,

2593
02:09:17,360 --> 02:09:20,560
Speaker 3: you know, I find myself taking a middle position all

2594
02:09:20,640 --> 02:09:22,960
Speaker 3: the time and looking around and be like, so, y'all ain't.

2595
02:09:22,800 --> 02:09:25,320
Speaker 8: Never heard of the middle. Y'all ain't never heard of in.

2596
02:09:26,640 --> 02:09:29,600
Speaker 4: An okay feeling, you never heard of her? Because like

2597
02:09:29,960 --> 02:09:32,240
Speaker 4: even with the Cha Carr thing, like I remember, like

2598
02:09:33,040 --> 02:09:35,680
Speaker 4: when she lost she came a knife to the Jamaicans

2599
02:09:35,760 --> 02:09:38,440
Speaker 4: or whatever, and I was.

2600
02:09:38,560 --> 02:09:43,040
Speaker 3: Tweeting, I literally had h carry the word muted on

2601
02:09:43,200 --> 02:09:46,320
Speaker 3: Twitter because I was tired of all the takes. But

2602
02:09:46,440 --> 02:09:48,680
Speaker 3: when I saw her loose that race, swear to God,

2603
02:09:48,760 --> 02:09:50,880
Speaker 3: I unmuted the word because I wanted.

2604
02:09:50,640 --> 02:09:54,680
Speaker 4: To see the junks, the jokes, And I literally.

2605
02:09:54,400 --> 02:09:57,920
Speaker 3: Tweeted, I'm like, look, I had ch Carri muted because

2606
02:09:57,960 --> 02:10:01,560
Speaker 3: I hated all the discord discourse around her.

2607
02:10:01,640 --> 02:10:04,880
Speaker 8: But I am a comedian, so I'm unmuted just.

2608
02:10:04,840 --> 02:10:07,960
Speaker 3: Because I like jokes, and there were some good jokes.

2609
02:10:08,000 --> 02:10:11,080
Speaker 3: I mean, Jamaican Twitter was dancing is great.

2610
02:10:11,400 --> 02:10:11,800
Speaker 4: It was like.

2611
02:10:13,360 --> 02:10:17,720
Speaker 3: And then and then then, but then my timeline, the

2612
02:10:17,840 --> 02:10:20,720
Speaker 3: woe people I follow got a hold of the story.

2613
02:10:20,840 --> 02:10:23,160
Speaker 4: The people who probably didn't even watch the.

2614
02:10:23,280 --> 02:10:26,560
Speaker 3: Race, right they were you know what I mean, Like

2615
02:10:26,680 --> 02:10:32,440
Speaker 3: I literally watched the race and then unmuted it when

2616
02:10:32,480 --> 02:10:35,240
Speaker 3: she lost, so like it took a couple of.

2617
02:10:35,320 --> 02:10:38,560
Speaker 4: Hours before the people who are only interested.

2618
02:10:38,200 --> 02:10:42,200
Speaker 3: In sports for the like cultural or anthropological elements of it,

2619
02:10:42,280 --> 02:10:45,160
Speaker 3: which is far you know with certain with certain sports

2620
02:10:45,200 --> 02:10:47,560
Speaker 3: something like that, we're like tennis, I'm not watching regularly,

2621
02:10:47,680 --> 02:10:48,320
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

2622
02:10:48,320 --> 02:10:51,320
Speaker 4: I don't watch baseball regularly, but with basketball I do

2623
02:10:51,520 --> 02:10:55,320
Speaker 4: watch relatively often. I used to watch football, but not anymore.

2624
02:10:55,360 --> 02:10:56,240
Speaker 4: So it's like, Okay, I.

2625
02:10:56,400 --> 02:10:59,400
Speaker 3: Understand that having that you know, relationship, that culture or

2626
02:10:59,440 --> 02:11:02,920
Speaker 3: relationship to the sport, but then you're not part of

2627
02:11:03,320 --> 02:11:06,520
Speaker 3: the culture of the actual watchers, which is if you

2628
02:11:06,640 --> 02:11:09,680
Speaker 3: talk shit, you get roasted. So I kept like, so

2629
02:11:09,760 --> 02:11:11,960
Speaker 3: I kept seeing people being like, why do you want

2630
02:11:12,000 --> 02:11:13,000
Speaker 3: to humble black women?

2631
02:11:13,120 --> 02:11:13,440
Speaker 4: So bad?

2632
02:11:13,440 --> 02:11:16,400
Speaker 3: And it's like, yeah, there are some weirdo misogyn noires

2633
02:11:16,600 --> 02:11:19,280
Speaker 3: who do want to humble her, but also when you

2634
02:11:19,360 --> 02:11:21,120
Speaker 3: talk shit, you get roasted. And I kept being like,

2635
02:11:21,280 --> 02:11:25,480
Speaker 3: this is like when James Harden got beat by Milwaukee.

2636
02:11:25,760 --> 02:11:28,040
Speaker 4: Like we was all doing this. I was like, oh,

2637
02:11:28,120 --> 02:11:30,320
Speaker 4: I want to go back to NBA playoff.

2638
02:11:29,920 --> 02:11:33,920
Speaker 1: Twitter and keep in mind, keep in mind she was

2639
02:11:33,960 --> 02:11:38,120
Speaker 1: talking shit, right, and when she was she was talking shit,

2640
02:11:38,320 --> 02:11:41,760
Speaker 1: everybody was defending it in these like this is actually

2641
02:11:41,920 --> 02:11:45,120
Speaker 1: grief or this is her processor. She is better than

2642
02:11:45,160 --> 02:11:47,560
Speaker 1: these bitches, and they do need the black women need

2643
02:11:47,600 --> 02:11:50,080
Speaker 1: the boycott the Olympics if she's not allowed to smoke

2644
02:11:50,120 --> 02:11:53,120
Speaker 1: weed and play like so like it was like we'd

2645
02:11:53,480 --> 02:11:58,240
Speaker 1: because once again they have a protagonist. Everything's the antagonists

2646
02:11:58,320 --> 02:12:00,680
Speaker 1: and if you're not ground with that, you're in the way.

2647
02:12:00,800 --> 02:12:02,360
Speaker 7: Karen, you've been wanting to say something for a while.

2648
02:12:02,360 --> 02:12:03,440
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Oh, no, no problem.

2649
02:12:03,480 --> 02:12:08,440
Speaker 5: I was going to say, kind of go back when

2650
02:12:08,520 --> 02:12:11,720
Speaker 5: y'all talk about the celebrities and how people do a

2651
02:12:11,760 --> 02:12:14,000
Speaker 5: lot of projecting at the celebrities and go at the

2652
02:12:14,160 --> 02:12:16,400
Speaker 5: celebrities when a lot of times they're products and they're

2653
02:12:16,480 --> 02:12:19,080
Speaker 5: actually selling you products. How you were talking about like Rihanna,

2654
02:12:19,120 --> 02:12:21,240
Speaker 5: how she's selling you these things and made me think

2655
02:12:21,240 --> 02:12:23,000
Speaker 5: about this because we.

2656
02:12:23,120 --> 02:12:25,920
Speaker 2: Don't know these rich people. A lot of them are friends.

2657
02:12:26,000 --> 02:12:27,920
Speaker 5: A lot of these motherfuckers are friends that we don't

2658
02:12:28,000 --> 02:12:30,400
Speaker 5: know our friends, and so we don't know the interworkings

2659
02:12:30,480 --> 02:12:32,520
Speaker 5: of their friendship. And I was like, Okay, people are

2660
02:12:32,600 --> 02:12:37,040
Speaker 5: going hard at Rihanna for being seen with Nikki and

2661
02:12:37,240 --> 02:12:37,880
Speaker 5: her husband.

2662
02:12:37,960 --> 02:12:39,560
Speaker 2: Do you know how many people in their regular.

2663
02:12:39,320 --> 02:12:42,400
Speaker 5: Black ass lives got uncles and cousins and shit to

2664
02:12:42,400 --> 02:12:44,160
Speaker 5: show up at family functions and all that shit? And

2665
02:12:44,200 --> 02:12:46,240
Speaker 5: I don't see y'all motherfuckers going in and potting that

2666
02:12:46,360 --> 02:12:48,160
Speaker 5: them and calling them out and demanded.

2667
02:12:47,880 --> 02:12:48,720
Speaker 4: That they not be there.

2668
02:12:48,920 --> 02:12:49,360
Speaker 1: They can't.

2669
02:12:49,520 --> 02:12:52,720
Speaker 3: They can't control their family, so they're gonna control somebody

2670
02:12:53,040 --> 02:12:57,000
Speaker 3: who they have a transactional relationship with, right, and attempt

2671
02:12:57,080 --> 02:12:58,040
Speaker 3: to control right.

2672
02:12:58,160 --> 02:13:00,320
Speaker 5: And so this boy's back down to the thing that

2673
02:13:00,480 --> 02:13:03,080
Speaker 5: Rogerck was saying about that intimacy. And this is why

2674
02:13:03,400 --> 02:13:07,080
Speaker 5: for me, I'm like, y'all are actually holding them to

2675
02:13:07,200 --> 02:13:09,600
Speaker 5: a standard. Did y'all don't hold people to in real life?

2676
02:13:09,640 --> 02:13:11,680
Speaker 5: Because it makes you feel good to do that and

2677
02:13:11,840 --> 02:13:13,280
Speaker 5: be so powerful.

2678
02:13:13,040 --> 02:13:18,360
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, there's a remove it's like, Okay, it's like

2679
02:13:18,520 --> 02:13:20,720
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna talk in the front. Like there's shit

2680
02:13:20,800 --> 02:13:22,640
Speaker 3: I talk online, but I'm sure I would never say

2681
02:13:22,680 --> 02:13:25,080
Speaker 3: in real life, you know what I'm saying. Like I've

2682
02:13:25,160 --> 02:13:27,520
Speaker 3: criticized all kinds of things, you know what I mean,

2683
02:13:27,760 --> 02:13:30,480
Speaker 3: Like even Nicki Minaj, I think she's whacked for being

2684
02:13:30,560 --> 02:13:33,080
Speaker 3: with her husband. I think she's whack for people. I

2685
02:13:33,120 --> 02:13:35,560
Speaker 3: wouldn't be like, ditch divorce him, but I think he's

2686
02:13:35,640 --> 02:13:37,040
Speaker 3: a bad choice in a man.

2687
02:13:37,200 --> 02:13:39,120
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. If Nicki and.

2688
02:13:39,240 --> 02:13:41,400
Speaker 3: Kenneth walked in front of me, I'm not gonna run

2689
02:13:41,480 --> 02:13:43,240
Speaker 3: up to them and be like nigga and you need

2690
02:13:43,320 --> 02:13:45,680
Speaker 3: to go back to jail, and I'm not gonna do it.

2691
02:13:46,200 --> 02:13:49,480
Speaker 3: But I have articulated online because there's a remove, and

2692
02:13:49,560 --> 02:13:51,920
Speaker 3: there's a power in the remove, and then there's a

2693
02:13:52,040 --> 02:13:56,320
Speaker 3: power in speaking from this removed place and this kind

2694
02:13:56,360 --> 02:13:58,840
Speaker 3: of stance that you could take that's like above the

2695
02:13:58,960 --> 02:14:01,400
Speaker 3: other people, you know what I mean. But Yeah, in

2696
02:14:01,520 --> 02:14:03,720
Speaker 3: the same way that I wouldn't say to my like

2697
02:14:03,880 --> 02:14:06,920
Speaker 3: to someone some celebrities face something, there's lots of stuff

2698
02:14:07,280 --> 02:14:09,280
Speaker 3: that I wouldn't say to people's face, even if I

2699
02:14:09,320 --> 02:14:12,120
Speaker 3: don't approve of their lifestyles in real life in part

2700
02:14:12,200 --> 02:14:14,560
Speaker 3: because in part because it's not my place, but also

2701
02:14:14,640 --> 02:14:16,160
Speaker 3: I can't fight. I don't want to get my ass

2702
02:14:16,240 --> 02:14:19,000
Speaker 3: kick you. So it's like, all right, I'm not gonna

2703
02:14:19,080 --> 02:14:22,320
Speaker 3: do that. And there's an element of not being scared

2704
02:14:22,360 --> 02:14:25,080
Speaker 3: to get your ass beat. The US say shit online

2705
02:14:25,120 --> 02:14:28,040
Speaker 3: that you're not always feel like you can.

2706
02:14:28,000 --> 02:14:30,360
Speaker 1: Tell there's two types of people you can tell. There's

2707
02:14:30,400 --> 02:14:33,640
Speaker 1: people that never lost the fight, and there's people that's

2708
02:14:33,720 --> 02:14:36,520
Speaker 1: never been in a fight. And now motherfuckers be talking

2709
02:14:36,600 --> 02:14:40,000
Speaker 1: wold like like that's like, that's one of the things

2710
02:14:40,040 --> 02:14:42,800
Speaker 1: that stopped me from talking reckless was just the fact

2711
02:14:42,840 --> 02:14:45,120
Speaker 1: that I've been in fights. It's just like, yeah, it's

2712
02:14:45,160 --> 02:14:48,360
Speaker 1: a certain level of shit I'll put up with until

2713
02:14:48,400 --> 02:14:49,440
Speaker 1: we get the fight level.

2714
02:14:49,560 --> 02:14:51,280
Speaker 7: And it's just like because because.

2715
02:14:51,080 --> 02:14:53,040
Speaker 1: You know the cost of it, right right, And the

2716
02:14:53,120 --> 02:14:56,280
Speaker 1: same thing when with social media, like people have to

2717
02:14:56,360 --> 02:14:58,320
Speaker 1: learn the cost of it. And normally it's when you're

2718
02:14:58,400 --> 02:15:01,520
Speaker 1: getting roasted or act or harassed or whatever that people

2719
02:15:01,520 --> 02:15:03,880
Speaker 1: start learning the cost of like, oh this shit, you

2720
02:15:03,960 --> 02:15:07,480
Speaker 1: can't just say anything and deal with it. But also

2721
02:15:07,640 --> 02:15:10,839
Speaker 1: the thing is it's not just that they feel powerful

2722
02:15:10,920 --> 02:15:12,960
Speaker 1: and they want to control. I don't even think it's that.

2723
02:15:13,240 --> 02:15:16,960
Speaker 1: I think what it is is connection. They're seeking connection

2724
02:15:17,080 --> 02:15:21,320
Speaker 1: as people. So what happens when I say Nicki Minaj

2725
02:15:21,320 --> 02:15:23,600
Speaker 1: need to break up with a rapist husband, is that

2726
02:15:23,840 --> 02:15:26,640
Speaker 1: there's other people reading my shit. She'll never read it,

2727
02:15:26,880 --> 02:15:27,600
Speaker 1: but there's other.

2728
02:15:27,480 --> 02:15:29,520
Speaker 7: People that go, I feel the same way.

2729
02:15:30,080 --> 02:15:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah girl, high five, Yeah dog, you know he did

2730
02:15:33,160 --> 02:15:35,880
Speaker 1: need to break up. And it's the same it's the

2731
02:15:36,040 --> 02:15:39,920
Speaker 1: same energy, it's the same shit. And that's what we're

2732
02:15:40,040 --> 02:15:42,880
Speaker 1: connecting on because we don't actually have any access to

2733
02:15:42,960 --> 02:15:46,360
Speaker 1: these people. We just think we do. But the part

2734
02:15:46,440 --> 02:15:49,880
Speaker 1: that bothers me isn't even that. I think the hypocrisy

2735
02:15:49,960 --> 02:15:54,640
Speaker 1: bothers me so much because it's like how everyone had

2736
02:15:54,640 --> 02:15:57,200
Speaker 1: an opinion about Lizo wearing a throng to the Lakers game,

2737
02:15:57,240 --> 02:15:59,720
Speaker 1: but then and jokes and all this shit. But then

2738
02:15:59,760 --> 02:16:03,360
Speaker 1: when like Lizzo's talking about being depressed because people talking

2739
02:16:03,360 --> 02:16:05,760
Speaker 1: about her body, then it's like we must protect her

2740
02:16:06,240 --> 02:16:09,640
Speaker 1: or whatever. But then like Chloe Bailey does the odd

2741
02:16:09,760 --> 02:16:12,960
Speaker 1: twerk during singing a song and it's like this bit

2742
02:16:13,160 --> 02:16:16,200
Speaker 1: is crazy, she gotta go, and then and then she crossed.

2743
02:16:16,200 --> 02:16:17,920
Speaker 7: These people are looking at her butt and it's just

2744
02:16:18,080 --> 02:16:19,160
Speaker 7: so fucking up.

2745
02:16:19,120 --> 02:16:21,760
Speaker 4: And down and it is pretty.

2746
02:16:22,160 --> 02:16:25,360
Speaker 3: It's really crazy and interesting that you bring up both

2747
02:16:25,440 --> 02:16:30,800
Speaker 3: Lizzo and Chloe because I think I often I din't

2748
02:16:30,840 --> 02:16:33,920
Speaker 3: think when I see I feel about them the way

2749
02:16:33,920 --> 02:16:36,360
Speaker 3: I feel about myself sometimes, which is just like you.

2750
02:16:36,520 --> 02:16:40,400
Speaker 4: Gotta remember who you are to people, because like.

2751
02:16:42,440 --> 02:16:45,920
Speaker 3: I think, the thing with and and it also sort

2752
02:16:45,959 --> 02:16:49,840
Speaker 3: of feeds this parasocial relationship that you're talking about. It's

2753
02:16:50,120 --> 02:16:54,000
Speaker 3: the problem is and it's not a problem because it

2754
02:16:54,080 --> 02:16:56,480
Speaker 3: use your fans. The problem is that these people let

2755
02:16:56,560 --> 02:16:59,080
Speaker 3: the people know that they got to them, that they

2756
02:16:59,240 --> 02:17:01,520
Speaker 3: heard them, that they saw it, you know what I'm saying.

2757
02:17:01,920 --> 02:17:03,960
Speaker 3: And so like not that I think I'm as famous

2758
02:17:04,040 --> 02:17:07,520
Speaker 3: or anything as Chloe Liza, I just be like I

2759
02:17:07,680 --> 02:17:10,600
Speaker 3: still be using Twitter like I'm not verified.

2760
02:17:10,640 --> 02:17:12,320
Speaker 4: I still be using Twitter like I don't have a

2761
02:17:12,520 --> 02:17:13,879
Speaker 4: job to lose or whatever.

2762
02:17:14,400 --> 02:17:18,880
Speaker 3: And Lizo and Chloe both use Instagram and TikTok like

2763
02:17:19,040 --> 02:17:22,879
Speaker 3: they're normal people, and the problem is they not normal,

2764
02:17:22,959 --> 02:17:23,720
Speaker 3: so people are not going.

2765
02:17:23,640 --> 02:17:25,600
Speaker 4: To react to them normally, you know what I'm saying.

2766
02:17:25,920 --> 02:17:28,600
Speaker 3: And then when they have normal responses to things that

2767
02:17:28,760 --> 02:17:32,360
Speaker 3: hurt their feelings like crying, right, and they put that online.

2768
02:17:32,720 --> 02:17:36,160
Speaker 3: People are gonna have a not normal reaction to this.

2769
02:17:36,320 --> 02:17:39,320
Speaker 3: Not there's no normal thing like crying.

2770
02:17:39,160 --> 02:17:43,320
Speaker 1: Because there's no demarcation for when you cross over from hey,

2771
02:17:43,720 --> 02:17:46,440
Speaker 1: you're just hanging out with your fans and you're and

2772
02:17:46,879 --> 02:17:48,960
Speaker 1: this is what's making you famous is the fact that

2773
02:17:49,120 --> 02:17:52,199
Speaker 1: you'll you know, Cardi b got famous because of Instagram,

2774
02:17:53,040 --> 02:17:57,240
Speaker 1: right right, And so there's no magical moment where it's

2775
02:17:57,320 --> 02:18:00,320
Speaker 1: like and now you need to get the fuck off here.

2776
02:18:00,840 --> 02:18:02,840
Speaker 7: Yes, And so they keep thinking.

2777
02:18:03,440 --> 02:18:06,720
Speaker 4: That searches her name. She still searches her name, yumby,

2778
02:18:07,040 --> 02:18:09,360
Speaker 4: and I love Cardi be down. She's one of my.

2779
02:18:09,440 --> 02:18:12,720
Speaker 3: Favorite celebrities right now, right, but I be following Carti.

2780
02:18:12,800 --> 02:18:14,600
Speaker 4: And sometimes I just want to tweet at.

2781
02:18:14,520 --> 02:18:16,920
Speaker 8: Her like, hey, you ain't got to search your name

2782
02:18:17,040 --> 02:18:17,640
Speaker 8: no more.

2783
02:18:17,840 --> 02:18:19,560
Speaker 4: Because you're so famous.

2784
02:18:19,640 --> 02:18:22,440
Speaker 3: But then she's probably feeling, well, if I stop searching

2785
02:18:22,480 --> 02:18:25,800
Speaker 3: my name, then everything that got me here is gonna disappear,

2786
02:18:26,240 --> 02:18:26,720
Speaker 3: and it's.

2787
02:18:26,680 --> 02:18:29,520
Speaker 4: Just like, yeah, you're right, Like, who knows when it clicks.

2788
02:18:29,640 --> 02:18:31,440
Speaker 3: I would think that it would click once I made

2789
02:18:31,480 --> 02:18:34,320
Speaker 3: ten million dollars, but hey, it's not for me to say.

2790
02:18:35,040 --> 02:18:38,160
Speaker 1: Like that's how you got that tam l Yes, So

2791
02:18:38,280 --> 02:18:42,600
Speaker 1: it's like hard, you know what I'm saying, like being like, hey, Lebron,

2792
02:18:42,760 --> 02:18:45,760
Speaker 1: you're actually getting too big working out at the gym.

2793
02:18:45,920 --> 02:18:48,960
Speaker 1: Maybe that backs like, Nigga, I'm Lebron because I be

2794
02:18:49,120 --> 02:18:53,480
Speaker 1: in the gym exactly like these niggas love me because

2795
02:18:53,480 --> 02:18:56,359
Speaker 1: I'm on ig Live telling them what I had for lunch.

2796
02:18:56,840 --> 02:18:59,800
Speaker 4: And pretending that I know the lyrics to rap songs like.

2797
02:19:00,320 --> 02:19:04,080
Speaker 1: Yes, listen, if these niggas don't see me reading the

2798
02:19:04,240 --> 02:19:10,280
Speaker 1: first page of this coach book, if they don't see

2799
02:19:10,360 --> 02:19:13,560
Speaker 1: me still on the first chapter of James Baldwin, what

2800
02:19:13,720 --> 02:19:14,360
Speaker 1: am I gonna do?

2801
02:19:15,840 --> 02:19:15,960
Speaker 4: Yo?

2802
02:19:16,280 --> 02:19:20,000
Speaker 3: Honestly, it is so easy to be a woke celebrity.

2803
02:19:20,080 --> 02:19:22,920
Speaker 3: You just gotta be photographed the right book, in the

2804
02:19:23,080 --> 02:19:24,640
Speaker 3: right corner, and it's so.

2805
02:19:26,760 --> 02:19:32,240
Speaker 1: Honestly, dude, I feel like the activist, like celebrity activists people.

2806
02:19:33,160 --> 02:19:35,840
Speaker 1: That's the easiest grift, yo.

2807
02:19:36,120 --> 02:19:38,080
Speaker 4: It is you don't necessarily have to be.

2808
02:19:38,160 --> 02:19:40,920
Speaker 1: Talented ded you don't really have to be on point

2809
02:19:40,959 --> 02:19:44,040
Speaker 1: because like, once you're all point, people basically do the

2810
02:19:44,240 --> 02:19:47,960
Speaker 1: arguing for you when you're wrong, Like you, like I

2811
02:19:48,040 --> 02:19:49,480
Speaker 1: saw a nigga as tweet.

2812
02:19:49,760 --> 02:19:53,120
Speaker 3: Under the tweets they but clearly she believes and both

2813
02:19:53,200 --> 02:19:54,480
Speaker 3: and I'd be like, oh, okay.

2814
02:19:54,760 --> 02:19:59,160
Speaker 1: I saw a nigga, a white dude that had uh met,

2815
02:19:59,280 --> 02:20:01,520
Speaker 1: he bought a three million dollar house, but he is

2816
02:20:03,120 --> 02:20:05,400
Speaker 1: And people was really doing the most to try to

2817
02:20:05,560 --> 02:20:08,760
Speaker 1: argue like that shit wasn't weird, like like also like people, well,

2818
02:20:08,800 --> 02:20:12,160
Speaker 1: first of all, houses in California, I'm like, nigga's.

2819
02:20:11,720 --> 02:20:13,160
Speaker 4: For a three million dollar house.

2820
02:20:13,280 --> 02:20:16,959
Speaker 3: Though there's there's no I didn't live in a three

2821
02:20:17,000 --> 02:20:18,359
Speaker 3: million dollar house in California.

2822
02:20:18,360 --> 02:20:21,600
Speaker 4: You could live in California without a three million It's

2823
02:20:21,640 --> 02:20:22,360
Speaker 4: the only life.

2824
02:20:23,560 --> 02:20:26,040
Speaker 3: That's actually really funny that you mentioned that because me

2825
02:20:26,080 --> 02:20:28,039
Speaker 3: and Marshall one day we was on the phone for like.

2826
02:20:28,160 --> 02:20:30,680
Speaker 4: Five hours, like we were just you know, doing like

2827
02:20:30,800 --> 02:20:31,760
Speaker 4: how I am right now with.

2828
02:20:31,800 --> 02:20:32,920
Speaker 1: You on the phone from.

2829
02:20:35,320 --> 02:20:38,080
Speaker 3: I'd be talking like I usually like my thing is

2830
02:20:38,120 --> 02:20:40,200
Speaker 3: like I don't communicate a lot. I'm not a very

2831
02:20:40,280 --> 02:20:42,000
Speaker 3: good text and so it's like when I finally get

2832
02:20:42,040 --> 02:20:44,720
Speaker 3: with people, it turns into like days long conversation. So

2833
02:20:44,760 --> 02:20:49,880
Speaker 3: I apologize to your audience for being never But like

2834
02:20:50,000 --> 02:20:52,440
Speaker 3: when me and Marsha was talking like I was basically

2835
02:20:52,760 --> 02:20:55,960
Speaker 3: just throwing up everything about California.

2836
02:20:55,360 --> 02:20:57,160
Speaker 4: And twenty twenty that was pissing me off.

2837
02:20:57,280 --> 02:21:02,920
Speaker 3: And I specifically remember, I specifically remember saying that when

2838
02:21:03,000 --> 02:21:08,240
Speaker 3: everybody was like, don't pay rent whatever, I said something

2839
02:21:08,320 --> 02:21:13,640
Speaker 3: that I thought was reasonable, which was that my parents

2840
02:21:13,720 --> 02:21:17,560
Speaker 3: they own a three family house in Brooklyn. So like,

2841
02:21:18,520 --> 02:21:23,920
Speaker 3: not every landlord is this like slum lord or even

2842
02:21:24,600 --> 02:21:28,240
Speaker 3: somebody rich who owns multiple buildings, Like, if you can

2843
02:21:28,360 --> 02:21:30,480
Speaker 3: afford to pay your rent, pay your rent, because people

2844
02:21:30,520 --> 02:21:32,600
Speaker 3: weren't saying pay your don't pay your rent if you

2845
02:21:32,680 --> 02:21:38,920
Speaker 3: can't afford it, people fuck fuck everybody, don't pay your rent.

2846
02:21:38,920 --> 02:21:41,800
Speaker 3: And so then I mean, there were people googling the

2847
02:21:41,920 --> 02:21:44,240
Speaker 3: price of a house in Brooklyn in two thousand and

2848
02:21:44,320 --> 02:21:47,080
Speaker 3: five because I said, oh, you know, they bought a

2849
02:21:47,160 --> 02:21:50,400
Speaker 3: house in Brooklyn in the early two thousands, Like they're not,

2850
02:21:50,600 --> 02:21:53,200
Speaker 3: you know, So people were googling the price of a

2851
02:21:53,360 --> 02:21:55,520
Speaker 3: house in two thousand and five in Brooklyn.

2852
02:21:55,680 --> 02:21:57,439
Speaker 4: I found the most expensive neighborhood.

2853
02:21:57,480 --> 02:22:00,480
Speaker 3: So they pretended that my parents bought a million dollar house,

2854
02:22:00,680 --> 02:22:03,040
Speaker 3: right to prove that I was too rich and out

2855
02:22:03,040 --> 02:22:07,280
Speaker 3: of touch. Correct, I'm a rich, elite TV writer. I'm

2856
02:22:07,360 --> 02:22:09,880
Speaker 3: out of touch, for fucker, fuck her to the point

2857
02:22:09,920 --> 02:22:14,520
Speaker 3: where even a producer on Arrested Development, not just the

2858
02:22:14,600 --> 02:22:16,359
Speaker 3: reboot that was on Netflix.

2859
02:22:16,200 --> 02:22:17,880
Speaker 1: The Richins development.

2860
02:22:18,200 --> 02:22:20,800
Speaker 4: God knows how much money he's made.

2861
02:22:20,640 --> 02:22:24,800
Speaker 3: Because that was even before we renegotiated the writer's Guild contract.

2862
02:22:24,920 --> 02:22:27,600
Speaker 3: So who knows how much money he made writing on

2863
02:22:27,720 --> 02:22:30,600
Speaker 3: network television in the early two thousands and all the

2864
02:22:30,680 --> 02:22:32,600
Speaker 3: residuals he's collected over the years.

2865
02:22:33,000 --> 02:22:34,200
Speaker 4: He was making fun of me.

2866
02:22:34,320 --> 02:22:37,360
Speaker 3: Acting like I was an elitist and I'm a rich

2867
02:22:37,480 --> 02:22:42,560
Speaker 3: TV writer. Man, here comes August twenty twenty one. That

2868
02:22:43,000 --> 02:22:46,040
Speaker 3: same group of people are trying to tell me that

2869
02:22:46,160 --> 02:22:49,040
Speaker 3: it's okay for a socialist to buy a three million

2870
02:22:49,120 --> 02:22:49,680
Speaker 3: dollar house.

2871
02:22:49,920 --> 02:22:53,240
Speaker 4: And I'm trying to understand. They were sitting there being like, well,

2872
02:22:53,520 --> 02:22:57,680
Speaker 4: you know, his money came from twitch streaming.

2873
02:22:58,200 --> 02:23:01,520
Speaker 3: My money came from studios, right, So I didn't make

2874
02:23:01,640 --> 02:23:04,000
Speaker 3: money off of the back of somebody in a factory.

2875
02:23:04,080 --> 02:23:06,640
Speaker 4: How come his money is cleaning My money's not, right?

2876
02:23:06,879 --> 02:23:09,279
Speaker 3: And the money and the money that the people donated

2877
02:23:09,360 --> 02:23:12,320
Speaker 3: to him in the twitch streams, you know, like the

2878
02:23:12,440 --> 02:23:15,160
Speaker 3: super chap money or whatever they do for live stream

2879
02:23:15,200 --> 02:23:17,360
Speaker 3: and how you how come that money didn't How do

2880
02:23:17,400 --> 02:23:20,240
Speaker 3: you know that money didn't come from on a capital.

2881
02:23:20,440 --> 02:23:23,439
Speaker 1: Well you're we'll see, you're a capitalist and he's a socialist,

2882
02:23:24,000 --> 02:23:27,199
Speaker 1: so different. So he has three million social.

2883
02:23:27,000 --> 02:23:30,760
Speaker 4: Dollars, but you have and I had my couple of hundreds.

2884
02:23:30,920 --> 02:23:33,080
Speaker 7: You had a couple hundred thousand capitalist dollars.

2885
02:23:33,240 --> 02:23:36,520
Speaker 1: So that boy, you was you bad? He's good. I'll

2886
02:23:36,560 --> 02:23:39,720
Speaker 1: tell you that that was the easiest grip. I sometimes

2887
02:23:39,800 --> 02:23:43,320
Speaker 1: I think about it like the same way I think

2888
02:23:43,360 --> 02:23:47,320
Speaker 1: about uh being, the same way that I'm like, man,

2889
02:23:47,440 --> 02:23:51,760
Speaker 1: I could have been a great I could have I

2890
02:23:51,800 --> 02:23:56,040
Speaker 1: could have been really good as a like pastor. Yeah, okay,

2891
02:23:56,200 --> 02:23:57,960
Speaker 1: because I'm just like you know what I mean, Like

2892
02:23:58,200 --> 02:24:01,320
Speaker 1: you don't have to believe it, just go up there

2893
02:24:01,360 --> 02:24:04,080
Speaker 1: and get the money. But then my morals wouldn't let

2894
02:24:04,120 --> 02:24:06,360
Speaker 1: me do it because I'm just like, you know what

2895
02:24:06,400 --> 02:24:08,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's too evil to me. It's just like

2896
02:24:09,080 --> 02:24:11,280
Speaker 1: Joe Ostein clearly doesn't believe in God.

2897
02:24:12,080 --> 02:24:15,680
Speaker 4: No, or he believes that.

2898
02:24:15,879 --> 02:24:19,800
Speaker 3: God is as shitty as he is. Right with it,

2899
02:24:20,000 --> 02:24:22,160
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Because God's gonna be.

2900
02:24:22,240 --> 02:24:24,760
Speaker 4: Like closed the door on my church. I have have

2901
02:24:24,879 --> 02:24:27,440
Speaker 4: you seen did you see the aerial view of Joe

2902
02:24:27,520 --> 02:24:30,680
Speaker 4: O'stein's home. Have you seen the like ski view of

2903
02:24:30,800 --> 02:24:33,520
Speaker 4: his mansion? This shit is like, I mean, if.

2904
02:24:33,440 --> 02:24:36,880
Speaker 3: He doesn't have a mile of lands all around, I

2905
02:24:36,920 --> 02:24:37,879
Speaker 3: would be astonished.

2906
02:24:38,240 --> 02:24:42,920
Speaker 11: Like Edie Eddie Long doesn't believe in God, right, yeah,

2907
02:24:42,959 --> 02:24:46,440
Speaker 11: he didn't believe in God. So but the money, so

2908
02:24:46,840 --> 02:24:50,240
Speaker 11: much money, and then and then the people do so

2909
02:24:50,440 --> 02:24:54,520
Speaker 11: much work for you, Like this dude was sexually assaulting

2910
02:24:54,720 --> 02:24:58,160
Speaker 11: boys and and people were still showing up this church

2911
02:24:58,400 --> 02:25:00,520
Speaker 11: giving him more money and doing.

2912
02:25:00,879 --> 02:25:03,800
Speaker 3: Telling him and telling those boys that they was lying

2913
02:25:03,879 --> 02:25:05,880
Speaker 3: and trying to take a good black man down.

2914
02:25:06,080 --> 02:25:08,760
Speaker 1: And they did all the defending of him online and

2915
02:25:08,920 --> 02:25:11,120
Speaker 1: all the ship and there's a love you.

2916
02:25:11,120 --> 02:25:13,320
Speaker 4: Couldn't you couldn't look and picture him and thank you

2917
02:25:13,480 --> 02:25:14,360
Speaker 4: that Nigga's touching him.

2918
02:25:14,400 --> 02:25:15,000
Speaker 6: Boys, was.

2919
02:25:16,520 --> 02:25:20,080
Speaker 1: Nigga Nigga? When the under armed when the when the

2920
02:25:20,160 --> 02:25:23,360
Speaker 1: underarmored shirt pick came out, Yeah, it was like under down.

2921
02:25:24,800 --> 02:25:25,240
Speaker 5: Was an.

2922
02:25:27,280 --> 02:25:27,560
Speaker 6: I was.

2923
02:25:27,760 --> 02:25:30,600
Speaker 4: I was a man who was trying to impress little kids.

2924
02:25:30,800 --> 02:25:33,040
Speaker 1: I was immediately like, what are we even talking about?

2925
02:25:33,160 --> 02:25:33,360
Speaker 4: You know?

2926
02:25:33,640 --> 02:25:35,920
Speaker 1: Now, I will I will admit I do air on

2927
02:25:36,000 --> 02:25:37,880
Speaker 1: the side of like this. Nigga probably did it a

2928
02:25:37,920 --> 02:25:41,160
Speaker 1: little too much. Which is why I stopped commenting on everything.

2929
02:25:41,200 --> 02:25:43,080
Speaker 7: And sometimes I'll be like, ye.

2930
02:25:44,640 --> 02:25:44,840
Speaker 6: Didn't.

2931
02:25:44,879 --> 02:25:47,240
Speaker 1: Later it be like it was a sophisticated frame of him,

2932
02:25:47,280 --> 02:25:48,960
Speaker 1: like all right, well shit, he didn't do it, my bad.

2933
02:25:49,680 --> 02:25:52,080
Speaker 4: So the problem is, but you gotta be like that

2934
02:25:52,200 --> 02:25:52,680
Speaker 4: it's anything.

2935
02:25:52,720 --> 02:25:55,680
Speaker 3: I'm more inclined to believe something too, because there's too

2936
02:25:55,760 --> 02:25:57,520
Speaker 3: many times that someone did do it and they get

2937
02:25:57,560 --> 02:25:59,279
Speaker 3: away with this, so let me correct.

2938
02:25:59,360 --> 02:26:02,160
Speaker 1: I don't mind. I think I think the thing for

2939
02:26:02,280 --> 02:26:06,280
Speaker 1: me was just to stop telling everybody that because it's

2940
02:26:06,320 --> 02:26:08,440
Speaker 1: okay for me to be like privately like, yeah, that

2941
02:26:08,520 --> 02:26:09,039
Speaker 1: nigga probably.

2942
02:26:09,879 --> 02:26:12,120
Speaker 7: But then but then, like I'm on the podcast, like.

2943
02:26:12,320 --> 02:26:14,080
Speaker 1: Let me tell you how this nigga did.

2944
02:26:14,160 --> 02:26:15,480
Speaker 7: He's a piece of ship.

2945
02:26:17,000 --> 02:26:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, And when the motherfuckers exonerated, you'd be like when

2946
02:26:20,959 --> 02:26:23,840
Speaker 1: they're like, actually, we found the text from Ezekiel Elliott's

2947
02:26:23,840 --> 02:26:26,080
Speaker 1: girlfriend and she's already and I'm like.

2948
02:26:26,280 --> 02:26:28,160
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, so he didn't do that one.

2949
02:26:28,360 --> 02:26:30,120
Speaker 1: He didn't do damn that. I'm not saying he's a

2950
02:26:30,160 --> 02:26:31,039
Speaker 1: good person.

2951
02:26:30,800 --> 02:26:35,200
Speaker 4: But but there's one Ezekiel Elliott to like every I

2952
02:26:35,240 --> 02:26:35,560
Speaker 4: don't know.

2953
02:26:36,920 --> 02:26:40,039
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. I just didn't want to be the nigga that.

2954
02:26:41,280 --> 02:26:43,760
Speaker 7: It just felt stupid to be the I could wait,

2955
02:26:44,400 --> 02:26:45,400
Speaker 7: like I couldn't.

2956
02:26:48,240 --> 02:26:52,520
Speaker 1: Wait, Like listen, I'm over here looking at Deshn Watson

2957
02:26:52,600 --> 02:26:53,600
Speaker 1: like a motherfucker pork.

2958
02:26:53,520 --> 02:26:56,640
Speaker 3: Chop, like I'm sitting here too, because I'm sitting him

2959
02:26:56,640 --> 02:27:00,520
Speaker 3: being like, Okay, all right, let's say one of those

2960
02:27:00,600 --> 02:27:06,440
Speaker 3: massusters was lying, right, I mean that's that I'm looking.

2961
02:27:06,240 --> 02:27:10,200
Speaker 7: At this nigga court date like let's let's go, let's go.

2962
02:27:10,400 --> 02:27:11,400
Speaker 4: You know, you know what I do?

2963
02:27:11,680 --> 02:27:13,760
Speaker 3: I be going so I follow a couple of bad

2964
02:27:13,800 --> 02:27:15,680
Speaker 3: bitch blogs because I love bad bitches.

2965
02:27:15,840 --> 02:27:18,680
Speaker 4: Even those black children didn't think a black lady schedule did.

2966
02:27:19,160 --> 02:27:22,440
Speaker 3: But like I've you watched, I'd be following the wives

2967
02:27:22,480 --> 02:27:25,360
Speaker 3: and girlfriends blogs and stuff, and I'm sitting there and waiting,

2968
02:27:25,680 --> 02:27:28,080
Speaker 3: and there's like there was like a countdown on lipstick out,

2969
02:27:28,320 --> 02:27:31,000
Speaker 3: like when is DeShawn Watson's girl gonna leave them?

2970
02:27:33,320 --> 02:27:34,439
Speaker 2: That's hilarious.

2971
02:27:35,400 --> 02:27:39,400
Speaker 3: Every time a new a new accusation came out, they'd

2972
02:27:39,400 --> 02:27:41,640
Speaker 3: be like if I think her name is east something

2973
02:27:41,680 --> 02:27:44,320
Speaker 3: with it hey, and they're like, and I he's gonna leave.

2974
02:27:44,280 --> 02:27:47,240
Speaker 1: Now She's like, listen, I don't make it. I don't

2975
02:27:47,280 --> 02:27:50,480
Speaker 1: make I'm twenty two girls in Okay. Yeah, I'm feeling

2976
02:27:50,879 --> 02:27:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm riding this thing out to the motherfucking wedding bells

2977
02:27:53,920 --> 02:27:55,640
Speaker 1: because this is just it.

2978
02:27:55,840 --> 02:27:58,360
Speaker 7: It is what it is at this point. But the

2979
02:27:58,480 --> 02:28:02,720
Speaker 7: thing I was gonna say is the Preacher griff socialist grift.

2980
02:28:03,280 --> 02:28:06,920
Speaker 7: I feel the same way, like they get to be wrong.

2981
02:28:06,760 --> 02:28:10,960
Speaker 1: As fuck right, Like, uh that Brianna Rejoy. She ain't

2982
02:28:11,200 --> 02:28:13,600
Speaker 1: been right about not one thing in like five years.

2983
02:28:14,720 --> 02:28:18,440
Speaker 3: I thought what the Supreme Court did with Texas and

2984
02:28:18,560 --> 02:28:22,480
Speaker 3: they let the list, I was like, oh.

2985
02:28:22,760 --> 02:28:24,680
Speaker 4: And then when people started pointing out that she was

2986
02:28:24,760 --> 02:28:26,960
Speaker 4: deleting tweets, I was like, Oh, this will be it.

2987
02:28:27,120 --> 02:28:30,520
Speaker 1: This will be finally admit, like what, She'll either have

2988
02:28:30,640 --> 02:28:33,400
Speaker 1: to admit you know what, y'all I did fuck up,

2989
02:28:33,840 --> 02:28:36,680
Speaker 1: or people will just go look at how she fucking

2990
02:28:36,920 --> 02:28:39,400
Speaker 1: is acting right now, clearly she's a bad person. Nope.

2991
02:28:39,720 --> 02:28:39,879
Speaker 4: Right.

2992
02:28:40,320 --> 02:28:43,880
Speaker 3: I went to her thing and it said three hundred

2993
02:28:43,879 --> 02:28:45,360
Speaker 3: and one thousand followers.

2994
02:28:45,440 --> 02:28:47,200
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, we ain't got no shot we

2995
02:28:47,320 --> 02:28:52,440
Speaker 4: got that should have been the worst day for her,

2996
02:28:52,920 --> 02:28:54,600
Speaker 4: and she still had three hundred.

2997
02:28:55,120 --> 02:28:57,440
Speaker 7: But that's that's why I say, it's just like the

2998
02:28:57,520 --> 02:28:58,080
Speaker 7: preacher thing.

2999
02:28:58,240 --> 02:28:59,800
Speaker 1: It's Eddie Long gets.

3000
02:28:59,680 --> 02:29:05,840
Speaker 7: Caught fucking underage children children, male children.

3001
02:29:05,879 --> 02:29:08,000
Speaker 1: And the reason I bring this up is because Church's

3002
02:29:08,080 --> 02:29:11,320
Speaker 1: homophobic and ship So that's you know, when R Kelly,

3003
02:29:11,640 --> 02:29:15,199
Speaker 1: a lot of people didn't turn until last month got.

3004
02:29:15,120 --> 02:29:16,240
Speaker 4: Caught up with boy.

3005
02:29:17,320 --> 02:29:20,080
Speaker 1: So like I was like, oh, this so then it's

3006
02:29:20,120 --> 02:29:23,360
Speaker 1: over and then they're like, no, it's not. I'm gonna

3007
02:29:23,360 --> 02:29:25,840
Speaker 1: come up with a way that this is okay. And

3008
02:29:26,080 --> 02:29:31,119
Speaker 1: that's what the socialist people they won they got over there. Yeah,

3009
02:29:31,240 --> 02:29:35,960
Speaker 1: fucking shit on democrats every day and democrats alone, and

3010
02:29:36,120 --> 02:29:38,680
Speaker 1: they fucking go give me the money.

3011
02:29:38,720 --> 02:29:40,840
Speaker 7: And it's gonna help socialism.

3012
02:29:40,920 --> 02:29:43,280
Speaker 1: I give it, making me rich. They getting the three

3013
02:29:43,320 --> 02:29:46,680
Speaker 1: million dollar houses they got the Like I fucked up

3014
02:29:46,879 --> 02:29:47,400
Speaker 1: so bad.

3015
02:29:48,320 --> 02:29:51,280
Speaker 4: You know what I what I think I've realized too

3016
02:29:51,480 --> 02:29:55,640
Speaker 4: is like not to toot my own horn or whatever

3017
02:29:56,280 --> 02:29:56,600
Speaker 4: you do.

3018
02:29:59,280 --> 02:30:03,320
Speaker 3: I'm brilliant, but yeah, like I'm smart, and I think,

3019
02:30:03,879 --> 02:30:06,600
Speaker 3: you know, an element of being raised in a city

3020
02:30:06,760 --> 02:30:08,800
Speaker 3: like New York and Brooklyn or whatever where you grow

3021
02:30:08,879 --> 02:30:10,800
Speaker 3: up a little faster, you have to be savvier.

3022
02:30:11,000 --> 02:30:12,560
Speaker 4: My parents are smart people, and.

3023
02:30:12,680 --> 02:30:16,200
Speaker 3: All that I've been got, I got got a couple

3024
02:30:16,280 --> 02:30:18,560
Speaker 3: of times in my past everybody's got got at some point,

3025
02:30:19,040 --> 02:30:21,680
Speaker 3: but you start, I.

3026
02:30:21,800 --> 02:30:25,880
Speaker 4: Guess I just have like a cynical kind of nature

3027
02:30:26,120 --> 02:30:26,520
Speaker 4: or whatever.

3028
02:30:27,200 --> 02:30:31,520
Speaker 3: And I think, you know, social media has shown me

3029
02:30:32,320 --> 02:30:35,440
Speaker 3: that not only are people not cynical, but.

3030
02:30:35,680 --> 02:30:40,760
Speaker 4: They want to get God, Like they want to believe

3031
02:30:40,800 --> 02:30:43,000
Speaker 4: the shit that you sell in It's so crazy.

3032
02:30:42,760 --> 02:30:45,760
Speaker 3: Because like I remember, you know, as a child, like

3033
02:30:46,120 --> 02:30:49,360
Speaker 3: before Alia died, maybe like right before Alia died, like

3034
02:30:49,560 --> 02:30:54,039
Speaker 3: my friend was obsessed with Aliah, like there was nothing Aliyah.

3035
02:30:53,680 --> 02:30:57,040
Speaker 4: Could do and Alia didn't do wrong, but like she

3036
02:30:57,240 --> 02:31:00,240
Speaker 4: just was always obsessed with Aliyah. And like for me,

3037
02:31:00,800 --> 02:31:03,640
Speaker 4: I was like, wow, she's not the strongest.

3038
02:31:03,160 --> 02:31:07,240
Speaker 3: Actors, she's not the strongest singer. Like fandom in general,

3039
02:31:07,400 --> 02:31:10,160
Speaker 3: just fandom is a weird thing. Like I think it's

3040
02:31:10,280 --> 02:31:13,000
Speaker 3: weird to be like a fan. Like even when I

3041
02:31:13,040 --> 02:31:16,000
Speaker 3: say I'm a Kenya more Stan or whatever, I'm being ironic.

3042
02:31:16,160 --> 02:31:18,160
Speaker 4: I just appreciate what they bring to my TV.

3043
02:31:18,640 --> 02:31:23,160
Speaker 3: You won't catch me defending somebody when they're wrong, you

3044
02:31:23,240 --> 02:31:27,360
Speaker 3: know what I mean. I just can't imagine that. Yeah,

3045
02:31:27,400 --> 02:31:29,360
Speaker 3: Like I just can't imagine being so loyal to.

3046
02:31:29,440 --> 02:31:30,960
Speaker 8: A brand, you know what I'm saying.

3047
02:31:31,320 --> 02:31:36,400
Speaker 4: Like even when Yeezies come came out and who else?

3048
02:31:36,520 --> 02:31:39,360
Speaker 3: And when Cardi got her sneaker deal with Rebuk, my

3049
02:31:39,560 --> 02:31:43,280
Speaker 3: brain goes, nobody's gonna buy sneakers just because they like

3050
02:31:43,400 --> 02:31:44,240
Speaker 3: the music, Like.

3051
02:31:44,520 --> 02:31:48,440
Speaker 4: My brain will do that. But people buy sneakers because

3052
02:31:48,480 --> 02:31:49,680
Speaker 4: they like the music.

3053
02:31:50,160 --> 02:31:53,320
Speaker 3: N't the quality of the clothing is not good, like

3054
02:31:53,440 --> 02:31:56,320
Speaker 3: my friends will be like Ivy Park is not good clothes,

3055
02:31:56,760 --> 02:31:57,120
Speaker 3: but like.

3056
02:31:57,920 --> 02:32:00,879
Speaker 4: They like the Beyonce brand, so they buy the clothes

3057
02:32:01,280 --> 02:32:01,560
Speaker 4: and so.

3058
02:32:02,040 --> 02:32:05,760
Speaker 3: Like it's crazy to me how much more that's been

3059
02:32:05,879 --> 02:32:08,879
Speaker 3: highlighted by social media, where it's like, well, we bought into.

3060
02:32:08,760 --> 02:32:11,240
Speaker 4: The brand, so we will literally buy all the merch

3061
02:32:11,360 --> 02:32:13,800
Speaker 4: and the merch is, oh, you can have.

3062
02:32:13,920 --> 02:32:16,240
Speaker 3: A three million dollar house as a socialist, And the

3063
02:32:16,360 --> 02:32:18,440
Speaker 3: merch is like all these other things.

3064
02:32:18,520 --> 02:32:20,800
Speaker 4: Because they've already bought the music, they're buying the rest

3065
02:32:20,840 --> 02:32:23,160
Speaker 4: of the brand. And it's so mind blowing to me.

3066
02:32:23,280 --> 02:32:25,440
Speaker 1: You would think that it would You would think it

3067
02:32:25,440 --> 02:32:28,080
Speaker 1: would be the opposite, right, which is not that we're

3068
02:32:28,120 --> 02:32:31,080
Speaker 1: on social media, we're getting to see that these people

3069
02:32:31,120 --> 02:32:35,800
Speaker 1: are flowing yet and instead it's it's done like you said,

3070
02:32:35,800 --> 02:32:37,840
Speaker 1: it's done the opposite way, which and I think it's

3071
02:32:37,879 --> 02:32:41,000
Speaker 1: really funny because there's definitely anger, envy, and jealousy that

3072
02:32:41,080 --> 02:32:43,440
Speaker 1: they aren't these people yes, which is what they tried

3073
02:32:43,480 --> 02:32:45,560
Speaker 1: to turn the blue check thing into, which is I

3074
02:32:45,720 --> 02:32:47,560
Speaker 1: really just want to be you, and that's and that's

3075
02:32:47,560 --> 02:32:50,200
Speaker 1: why I'm actually quote unquote disappointed in you, is that

3076
02:32:51,200 --> 02:32:53,000
Speaker 1: I want to be you and make you. I would

3077
02:32:53,040 --> 02:32:54,880
Speaker 1: do this this way and that and you didn't do

3078
02:32:54,920 --> 02:32:57,040
Speaker 1: it that way. But one of the things that's funny

3079
02:32:57,040 --> 02:33:02,560
Speaker 1: about that is it shows how powerless people are when

3080
02:33:02,600 --> 02:33:06,279
Speaker 1: it comes to that shit, because like, the two biggest

3081
02:33:06,360 --> 02:33:09,640
Speaker 1: lasts I had last week had to be the Kanye

3082
02:33:09,760 --> 02:33:12,520
Speaker 1: West numbers and the Drake numbers. It was just like,

3083
02:33:13,320 --> 02:33:17,480
Speaker 1: y'all niggas talked about them twenty four for twenty four

3084
02:33:17,560 --> 02:33:20,960
Speaker 1: hours straight, if not more, and then the number, but

3085
02:33:21,120 --> 02:33:26,920
Speaker 1: the numbers say, motherfuckers didn't care. Like if I could

3086
02:33:26,920 --> 02:33:30,240
Speaker 1: have taken a snapshot of Twitter and said, hey, what

3087
02:33:30,360 --> 02:33:32,600
Speaker 1: do you think this album did the day had dropped,

3088
02:33:32,600 --> 02:33:34,880
Speaker 1: everybody would be like, no one listened to it, maybe

3089
02:33:34,920 --> 02:33:37,440
Speaker 1: one hundred plays, and you're like, yeah, it's the most

3090
02:33:37,440 --> 02:33:39,680
Speaker 1: streamed album of history in Spotify.

3091
02:33:39,800 --> 02:33:42,480
Speaker 3: Do you think do you think people do you think

3092
02:33:42,520 --> 02:33:44,760
Speaker 3: people on Twitter are lying or do you think people

3093
02:33:44,800 --> 02:33:46,280
Speaker 3: on Twitter are out of touch?

3094
02:33:47,360 --> 02:33:51,200
Speaker 1: Both both like baby lying saying they not so. The

3095
02:33:51,320 --> 02:33:53,400
Speaker 1: liear is I'm not gonna listen to this. I'm done

3096
02:33:53,440 --> 02:33:55,920
Speaker 1: with this person. I cancel them my ball. That's the lie,

3097
02:33:56,080 --> 02:33:58,320
Speaker 1: like I don't listen to Kanye he's a coon in

3098
02:33:58,400 --> 02:34:01,920
Speaker 1: this and then it's like anyway, Track seventeen of that

3099
02:34:02,000 --> 02:34:03,560
Speaker 1: album is rigulous.

3100
02:34:04,600 --> 02:34:06,200
Speaker 3: I just want to go on the record that I

3101
02:34:06,320 --> 02:34:09,600
Speaker 3: haven't listened to either album, but I have to listen

3102
02:34:09,680 --> 02:34:11,800
Speaker 3: to Drake for a podcast tomorrow, so I'm gonna do

3103
02:34:11,879 --> 02:34:14,480
Speaker 3: it if I'm gonna do it begrudgingly, even though I

3104
02:34:14,720 --> 02:34:16,640
Speaker 3: like Drake when he steals other cultures.

3105
02:34:16,680 --> 02:34:19,840
Speaker 1: I had Drake, I had to listen to both albums

3106
02:34:19,920 --> 02:34:22,800
Speaker 1: for a podcast I'm doing I think Tuesday or Wednesday.

3107
02:34:24,240 --> 02:34:26,560
Speaker 1: But but for the record, I'm not boycotting neither one

3108
02:34:26,640 --> 02:34:28,280
Speaker 1: or those. I would have listened to it either way.

3109
02:34:28,400 --> 02:34:30,920
Speaker 1: It just I would have waited till Nigga stopped arguing

3110
02:34:30,920 --> 02:34:32,680
Speaker 1: about it to listen to it, which is my favorite.

3111
02:34:33,480 --> 02:34:35,920
Speaker 4: I think I'm I think I am boycotting Kanye.

3112
02:34:36,200 --> 02:34:39,720
Speaker 3: I think like Kanye has gotten so off putting to

3113
02:34:39,840 --> 02:34:42,920
Speaker 3: me that I it's not an active boycott, right, Like.

3114
02:34:42,959 --> 02:34:45,080
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be like Kanye West. But it's like

3115
02:34:45,200 --> 02:34:48,440
Speaker 4: for me, it's just like the Trump era.

3116
02:34:48,600 --> 02:34:53,240
Speaker 3: I keep like the Trump era has been so transformative

3117
02:34:53,320 --> 02:34:55,840
Speaker 3: for me, Like it has really shaped my brain.

3118
02:34:55,959 --> 02:34:58,480
Speaker 4: Like I'm anxious in a way that I've never been before.

3119
02:34:59,000 --> 02:35:04,880
Speaker 3: And so when I see people creating a cult in

3120
02:35:05,000 --> 02:35:07,640
Speaker 3: any way, I get so uncomfortable. I'm trying to resist,

3121
02:35:07,840 --> 02:35:11,959
Speaker 3: and there's a cult around Conye in the same way

3122
02:35:12,040 --> 02:35:14,360
Speaker 3: there's a cult around Trump, and it makes me so

3123
02:35:14,600 --> 02:35:17,520
Speaker 3: unsettled that I like want no parts of it.

3124
02:35:17,640 --> 02:35:19,560
Speaker 7: I think it may come in.

3125
02:35:19,560 --> 02:35:23,560
Speaker 1: The fact that I don't interact with anybody in that camp.

3126
02:35:23,680 --> 02:35:26,040
Speaker 1: And I don't and I and I and just in

3127
02:35:26,400 --> 02:35:29,240
Speaker 1: in life, I've curated, like I don't talk to people

3128
02:35:29,240 --> 02:35:31,680
Speaker 1: about music and shit, Like if you look at my

3129
02:35:31,920 --> 02:35:34,480
Speaker 1: my social media, like if I maybe i'll quote a

3130
02:35:34,560 --> 02:35:36,560
Speaker 1: line from something, I don't go back and forth, like,

3131
02:35:37,360 --> 02:35:40,320
Speaker 1: hey man, so this is what I think about this album.

3132
02:35:40,400 --> 02:35:42,560
Speaker 1: What y'all think. I don't give a fuck what you think.

3133
02:35:42,680 --> 02:35:44,600
Speaker 1: I don't It has nothing to do with me. I

3134
02:35:44,680 --> 02:35:46,600
Speaker 1: actually don't give a fuck with the artist things. It

3135
02:35:46,680 --> 02:35:49,959
Speaker 1: has nothing that you put out a product let's hear

3136
02:35:50,040 --> 02:35:52,880
Speaker 1: the product. There's there's been terrible people who put out

3137
02:35:52,920 --> 02:36:00,560
Speaker 1: great music my whole life, right Brown, Come on, abusers,

3138
02:36:00,720 --> 02:36:03,520
Speaker 1: There's also been great people who put out terrible music.

3139
02:36:04,280 --> 02:36:06,200
Speaker 1: People I agree with, like wholeheartedly.

3140
02:36:06,280 --> 02:36:07,080
Speaker 7: I'm like that person.

3141
02:36:08,040 --> 02:36:12,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I'm like, I like, uh, commons politics seem

3142
02:36:13,000 --> 02:36:16,560
Speaker 1: pretty fucking dope. But it's been several albums where I'm like,

3143
02:36:16,760 --> 02:36:17,480
Speaker 1: no thanks.

3144
02:36:17,320 --> 02:36:20,640
Speaker 4: Common, Yeah, and com comment is a hotel.

3145
02:36:21,400 --> 02:36:25,080
Speaker 1: Oh oh Common? Yeah, good album?

3146
02:36:25,560 --> 02:36:28,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a terrible hotel.

3147
02:36:27,840 --> 02:36:31,200
Speaker 7: Old no no good good good album.

3148
02:36:31,280 --> 02:36:37,280
Speaker 1: Common is a terrible person, Like he's homophobic, misogynistic.

3149
02:36:37,879 --> 02:36:41,080
Speaker 5: To the lyrics, right if you like to the lyrics

3150
02:36:41,120 --> 02:36:43,560
Speaker 5: and ship because But I think for me, when it

3151
02:36:43,720 --> 02:36:46,039
Speaker 5: comes to a lot of the music, I'm very simple,

3152
02:36:46,200 --> 02:36:49,040
Speaker 5: and I think that the way I view it, I'm like,

3153
02:36:49,480 --> 02:36:51,560
Speaker 5: particularly when it comes to Kanye, is it hot?

3154
02:36:52,240 --> 02:36:54,400
Speaker 2: And for me, it's that cut and dry for me,

3155
02:36:54,640 --> 02:36:56,680
Speaker 2: regardless of what care you.

3156
02:36:57,160 --> 02:36:58,920
Speaker 1: But and you do this with a lot of stuff.

3157
02:36:59,000 --> 02:37:01,960
Speaker 1: You just don't listen and this stuff agreed this so

3158
02:37:02,440 --> 02:37:03,920
Speaker 1: you don't know if it's good or bad. You just

3159
02:37:04,000 --> 02:37:04,480
Speaker 1: don't care.

3160
02:37:04,840 --> 02:37:05,480
Speaker 2: No, I don't know.

3161
02:37:05,640 --> 02:37:08,480
Speaker 3: I don't even think I'm not a super music person. Yeah,

3162
02:37:08,840 --> 02:37:11,280
Speaker 3: like I would rather listen to a podcast than maybe

3163
02:37:11,360 --> 02:37:12,119
Speaker 3: an album, are.

3164
02:37:12,040 --> 02:37:17,400
Speaker 7: You like fat Well? Karen's also like that with music, TV, movie,

3165
02:37:17,560 --> 02:37:18,600
Speaker 7: like everything, like.

3166
02:37:20,400 --> 02:37:23,040
Speaker 3: Like the way that you're not like thrilled about it,

3167
02:37:23,120 --> 02:37:24,840
Speaker 3: You're not gonna engage necessarily.

3168
02:37:25,560 --> 02:37:27,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can just take a ship and leave. She'll

3169
02:37:27,920 --> 02:37:30,440
Speaker 1: just be like I, you know, I don't listen to this.

3170
02:37:30,640 --> 02:37:32,720
Speaker 1: And that's and not out of a boycott or anything.

3171
02:37:32,760 --> 02:37:35,280
Speaker 1: She's just like I'm like, oh, I do want to

3172
02:37:35,520 --> 02:37:37,440
Speaker 1: see what this is, Like I have an opinion on it.

3173
02:37:38,000 --> 02:37:40,640
Speaker 1: So if so, that's why I'm gonna check this thing out.

3174
02:37:40,760 --> 02:37:42,360
Speaker 1: And She's just not that way at all.

3175
02:37:42,560 --> 02:37:43,879
Speaker 2: And I'm very different now.

3176
02:37:43,959 --> 02:37:45,879
Speaker 5: I will tell you there are some artists that I'm

3177
02:37:45,920 --> 02:37:49,360
Speaker 5: really excited about, Like I know that when I have

3178
02:37:49,480 --> 02:37:52,480
Speaker 5: about two or three artists and it's normally Beyonce and

3179
02:37:52,680 --> 02:37:55,600
Speaker 5: Kendrick Lamar. When they should come out, it is day

3180
02:37:55,680 --> 02:38:01,679
Speaker 5: one when it drops, like I'm going to act like listening.

3181
02:38:01,440 --> 02:38:03,720
Speaker 2: To it, I'm gonna sit my ass down. I'm gonna

3182
02:38:03,760 --> 02:38:04,000
Speaker 2: play it.

3183
02:38:04,520 --> 02:38:06,800
Speaker 5: And and for me, I like to really digest music,

3184
02:38:06,920 --> 02:38:09,199
Speaker 5: so I like to I listen to it for a month,

3185
02:38:09,360 --> 02:38:11,280
Speaker 5: month and a half just just rocking it over and

3186
02:38:11,360 --> 02:38:13,760
Speaker 5: over and over again. But like right to say, I

3187
02:38:13,760 --> 02:38:15,800
Speaker 5: don't know, this is about my personality. So sometimes when

3188
02:38:15,840 --> 02:38:19,640
Speaker 5: people get into this this That's why.

3189
02:38:19,600 --> 02:38:23,400
Speaker 1: When you said if it's hot, I'm like, that don't matter, right.

3190
02:38:23,360 --> 02:38:27,600
Speaker 5: Because yeah, the banging and Roger Roger grew played, I'll.

3191
02:38:27,440 --> 02:38:29,440
Speaker 2: Be like, who what is that Roger? But like I

3192
02:38:29,560 --> 02:38:31,200
Speaker 2: played it on the thing, I was like you did.

3193
02:38:31,280 --> 02:38:32,800
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, I don't know nobody.

3194
02:38:33,040 --> 02:38:36,640
Speaker 7: I'm old, so it could be super popular.

3195
02:38:36,680 --> 02:38:39,160
Speaker 1: She don't give a fuck. But but but you know,

3196
02:38:39,440 --> 02:38:42,200
Speaker 1: that's just the way she listens. But my anyway, my

3197
02:38:42,240 --> 02:38:43,800
Speaker 1: whole point was just that I think a lot of

3198
02:38:43,840 --> 02:38:49,200
Speaker 1: this stuff is we're consuming it and then we're now

3199
02:38:49,240 --> 02:38:51,640
Speaker 1: we're extrapolating a bunch of other ship onto it. And

3200
02:38:51,760 --> 02:38:56,440
Speaker 1: I just the way I came up. I think maybe

3201
02:38:56,440 --> 02:38:58,960
Speaker 1: because my parents felt more like role models to me

3202
02:38:59,120 --> 02:39:03,040
Speaker 1: than celebrity these I just never gave a fuck about

3203
02:39:03,120 --> 02:39:05,480
Speaker 1: these people that made the albums in that type of way,

3204
02:39:05,600 --> 02:39:08,160
Speaker 1: like they so much of the music I grew up

3205
02:39:08,200 --> 02:39:12,560
Speaker 1: with is advocating horrible ship horrible.

3206
02:39:12,520 --> 02:39:13,080
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

3207
02:39:13,280 --> 02:39:15,440
Speaker 1: And so it's and I and I think because I

3208
02:39:15,560 --> 02:39:19,160
Speaker 1: love music so much, I never gave up, like because

3209
02:39:19,160 --> 02:39:21,400
Speaker 1: what happens is what people what I've noticed is people

3210
02:39:22,000 --> 02:39:23,640
Speaker 1: there's a certain area of their life where they just

3211
02:39:23,760 --> 02:39:26,840
Speaker 1: kind of let everything slide. So like so like they'll

3212
02:39:26,879 --> 02:39:30,480
Speaker 1: be like, Drake is misogynistic, and I'm like, is it

3213
02:39:30,600 --> 02:39:32,280
Speaker 1: Drake is misogynistic or you old?

3214
02:39:32,680 --> 02:39:36,119
Speaker 7: And because because like you know who else is misogynistic?

3215
02:39:36,360 --> 02:39:40,200
Speaker 1: Every nigga before Drake, Drake just has a different type

3216
02:39:40,200 --> 02:39:43,160
Speaker 1: of misogyny than these niggas. His misogyny is like I

3217
02:39:43,240 --> 02:39:43,800
Speaker 1: can't believe you.

3218
02:39:44,400 --> 02:39:50,760
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, but that's the problem with Drake's besides me, right,

3219
02:39:50,879 --> 02:39:53,240
Speaker 3: it's like the problem with Drake's society though.

3220
02:39:53,280 --> 02:39:55,760
Speaker 4: It's like it might get you, that's what makes this change.

3221
02:39:56,800 --> 02:39:58,520
Speaker 2: But you know what, you're singing the hook?

3222
02:39:59,360 --> 02:40:00,400
Speaker 4: What the that's the thing?

3223
02:40:00,480 --> 02:40:00,600
Speaker 6: Right?

3224
02:40:00,760 --> 02:40:03,920
Speaker 1: So so that's the thing though, right my whole life,

3225
02:40:04,400 --> 02:40:07,120
Speaker 1: that's also been a thing. Like Drake, shit isn't new.

3226
02:40:07,440 --> 02:40:10,040
Speaker 1: Try call quest lady, put a form on your sexual

3227
02:40:10,160 --> 02:40:13,480
Speaker 1: drive devoted to your lover and make it thrive. Brown

3228
02:40:13,520 --> 02:40:18,560
Speaker 1: Skinned lady by Black Black Star mind sex by Dad President.

3229
02:40:18,760 --> 02:40:22,920
Speaker 1: Like every every every version of hip hop has had

3230
02:40:23,480 --> 02:40:27,480
Speaker 1: has had the nice, the nice, like no I'm doing

3231
02:40:27,560 --> 02:40:29,800
Speaker 1: this to help you out. So I just don't think

3232
02:40:29,879 --> 02:40:31,520
Speaker 1: you should go to the club because you know that

3233
02:40:31,680 --> 02:40:34,520
Speaker 1: kind of lifestyle is bad for you. And now the

3234
02:40:34,680 --> 02:40:36,440
Speaker 1: next song is about how I'll be at the strip

3235
02:40:36,520 --> 02:40:38,240
Speaker 1: club all the time, and that's where I met you.

3236
02:40:39,640 --> 02:40:41,000
Speaker 7: But we're not gonna talk about it.

3237
02:40:41,120 --> 02:40:43,320
Speaker 5: I talk about that, and see I like to smack

3238
02:40:43,360 --> 02:40:46,000
Speaker 5: him in your face, massaging it. I like, bitches ain't

3239
02:40:46,040 --> 02:40:48,960
Speaker 5: ship but holes and tricks like that's me. So if

3240
02:40:49,040 --> 02:40:51,400
Speaker 5: I'm liking that, I'm not gonna talk bad about Drake.

3241
02:40:51,560 --> 02:40:54,600
Speaker 4: So that's why I say Drake gets to me. It's

3242
02:40:54,640 --> 02:40:58,000
Speaker 4: because I'm nervous that if I met Drake at a party.

3243
02:40:58,080 --> 02:41:03,280
Speaker 3: I'm so scared that Drake would spit what he's fitting

3244
02:41:03,480 --> 02:41:04,200
Speaker 3: and it would work.

3245
02:41:04,320 --> 02:41:08,000
Speaker 4: And then here I am pregnant and he's like, you.

3246
02:41:08,080 --> 02:41:09,920
Speaker 7: Want to come, you want to come? You want to cover?

3247
02:41:11,240 --> 02:41:14,800
Speaker 1: Your emoji's going to cover.

3248
02:41:14,760 --> 02:41:18,200
Speaker 4: His album I'm the light skinning emoji with Sandy Brown.

3249
02:41:21,160 --> 02:41:24,440
Speaker 1: He's like, what I What all I'm saying is I

3250
02:41:24,520 --> 02:41:26,400
Speaker 1: want you to care so much about yourself? Did you

3251
02:41:26,440 --> 02:41:28,039
Speaker 1: stop stripping? That's all I'm saying.

3252
02:41:28,800 --> 02:41:31,160
Speaker 4: And now I ain't got no money and you're giving.

3253
02:41:31,000 --> 02:41:33,200
Speaker 7: My money in the club exactly.

3254
02:41:34,480 --> 02:41:37,200
Speaker 4: That's that's my anxiety about Drake. Drake got me, that's

3255
02:41:37,240 --> 02:41:37,720
Speaker 4: the issue.

3256
02:41:37,840 --> 02:41:38,400
Speaker 6: That's the issue.

3257
02:41:38,720 --> 02:41:40,560
Speaker 4: If you have an ice Cube.

3258
02:41:40,280 --> 02:41:44,120
Speaker 3: Song, I'd be like, oh, standing away from Agalut in

3259
02:41:44,240 --> 02:41:45,960
Speaker 3: the club and that hurt my feelings.

3260
02:41:46,600 --> 02:41:49,440
Speaker 2: Like I said, that's always and then the next time

3261
02:41:49,520 --> 02:41:53,000
Speaker 2: gonna be about you. Ever since y'all left that city.

3262
02:41:52,879 --> 02:41:58,080
Speaker 1: You think, I think we all just got we're getting old,

3263
02:41:58,959 --> 02:42:01,400
Speaker 1: and we're just like, well, no, this type of nigga

3264
02:42:01,400 --> 02:42:03,440
Speaker 1: didn't exist, And I'm just like, all these niggas have

3265
02:42:03,600 --> 02:42:07,960
Speaker 1: always None of these niggas I knew one of them,

3266
02:42:08,800 --> 02:42:09,400
Speaker 1: and no, do you.

3267
02:42:09,440 --> 02:42:10,720
Speaker 4: Know what I was doing?

3268
02:42:10,959 --> 02:42:14,160
Speaker 3: So obviously I grew up in gangster rap era, although

3269
02:42:14,480 --> 02:42:16,360
Speaker 3: I grew up on the East Coast, so we were

3270
02:42:16,440 --> 02:42:18,760
Speaker 3: doing a lot of listening to bad Boy and jay

3271
02:42:18,879 --> 02:42:21,760
Speaker 3: Z and it's not it's still gangster rap to some degree.

3272
02:42:21,800 --> 02:42:24,600
Speaker 3: It's still street rap, right, but it wasn't as like overt.

3273
02:42:24,840 --> 02:42:27,480
Speaker 3: It wasn't the same, you know, because both Diddy and

3274
02:42:27,920 --> 02:42:32,720
Speaker 3: after after the fourth album, yeah, after Volume four, jay

3275
02:42:32,800 --> 02:42:35,160
Speaker 3: Z started trying to be the you know, shiny not

3276
02:42:35,240 --> 02:42:37,840
Speaker 3: shiny suit man, but a suitman change clothes you know,

3277
02:42:38,760 --> 02:42:41,120
Speaker 3: they both tried to clean up and do white people shit,

3278
02:42:41,200 --> 02:42:42,960
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So it's not the same

3279
02:42:43,080 --> 02:42:45,760
Speaker 3: kind of gritty hip hop that maybe in other areas

3280
02:42:45,800 --> 02:42:48,480
Speaker 3: of the country y'all was getting. You know, like I

3281
02:42:49,800 --> 02:42:52,680
Speaker 3: never heard of UGK before big Temping, you know what

3282
02:42:52,720 --> 02:42:56,840
Speaker 3: I mean, shit like that. So like, so, so I

3283
02:42:57,280 --> 02:43:00,640
Speaker 3: during the pandemic, I started getting really into YouTube.

3284
02:43:00,720 --> 02:43:01,120
Speaker 4: I don't know.

3285
02:43:03,000 --> 02:43:09,080
Speaker 3: Why, look von and and I started watching all these

3286
02:43:09,320 --> 02:43:11,480
Speaker 3: you know, like true crime. I started watching all this

3287
02:43:11,520 --> 02:43:13,920
Speaker 3: stuff about gigster rapper, you know, who got.

3288
02:43:13,800 --> 02:43:16,320
Speaker 8: How many bodies and what gang from this city?

3289
02:43:16,400 --> 02:43:19,959
Speaker 4: And little Dirk has put a hit on ten thousand

3290
02:43:20,000 --> 02:43:23,440
Speaker 4: niggas apparently, And so like I got super into this.

3291
02:43:23,640 --> 02:43:25,800
Speaker 4: I even it was like, oh, started.

3292
02:43:25,480 --> 02:43:27,760
Speaker 3: With Chicago Drill, then Brooklyn drilled that. You know, they

3293
02:43:27,800 --> 02:43:29,120
Speaker 3: got drill in Jackson, Florida.

3294
02:43:29,360 --> 02:43:31,080
Speaker 4: That's a bill. I'm up in there too, And I'm

3295
02:43:31,080 --> 02:43:35,160
Speaker 4: sitting here watching everything. And then after you consume enough

3296
02:43:35,240 --> 02:43:38,200
Speaker 4: of that, you remember that you're thirty three years old

3297
02:43:38,400 --> 02:43:40,959
Speaker 4: and that all these boys killing each other for sport

3298
02:43:41,160 --> 02:43:41,320
Speaker 4: is a.

3299
02:43:41,480 --> 02:43:42,520
Speaker 1: Terrible, terrible thing.

3300
02:43:42,760 --> 02:43:46,640
Speaker 3: And so now I'm kind of in a does little

3301
02:43:46,720 --> 02:43:50,680
Speaker 3: Dirk have to wrap about murder yea his brother.

3302
02:43:50,640 --> 02:43:53,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, beg you had compression, but he said twenty one,

3303
02:43:53,640 --> 02:43:54,440
Speaker 2: he's a baby.

3304
02:43:54,720 --> 02:43:57,000
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you stop being like that.

3305
02:43:57,720 --> 02:44:01,200
Speaker 4: No true story. Like I saw some rapper get killed.

3306
02:44:01,240 --> 02:44:03,640
Speaker 4: He was like nineteen. He got killed like a month ago,

3307
02:44:03,680 --> 02:44:06,120
Speaker 4: and I was like, these boys don't even make it

3308
02:44:06,200 --> 02:44:07,080
Speaker 4: to twenty.

3309
02:44:07,160 --> 02:44:09,160
Speaker 2: Years they started.

3310
02:44:10,040 --> 02:44:12,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then like I even was in the group

3311
02:44:12,120 --> 02:44:14,880
Speaker 3: chat being like, guys, don't you think the way rap

3312
02:44:15,040 --> 02:44:16,440
Speaker 3: is going is dangerous?

3313
02:44:17,959 --> 02:44:20,440
Speaker 7: Listen, we all we all got old enough.

3314
02:44:20,560 --> 02:44:23,120
Speaker 1: Think about it this way. We all got old enough

3315
02:44:23,400 --> 02:44:25,480
Speaker 1: that Snoop Dogg is ceeda Laura's Tucker.

3316
02:44:26,000 --> 02:44:29,040
Speaker 7: Like, that's how old we are, not Snoop Dogg.

3317
02:44:29,200 --> 02:44:31,360
Speaker 1: Things. Women need to put on clothes and the music

3318
02:44:31,480 --> 02:44:34,480
Speaker 1: needs to the music needs to be a little less raunchy.

3319
02:44:35,000 --> 02:44:36,160
Speaker 7: That's how old we are.

3320
02:44:36,879 --> 02:44:39,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how old we are. Like even in the chat,

3321
02:44:39,120 --> 02:44:41,359
Speaker 4: trace window said fulio versus young Ace.

3322
02:44:41,560 --> 02:44:45,040
Speaker 3: Yes, so like the so do you remember were you

3323
02:44:45,160 --> 02:44:47,680
Speaker 3: aware of that hit? You know, the Vanessa Carlton song

3324
02:44:48,160 --> 02:44:51,359
Speaker 3: one thousand Miles? And then did you see the Florida

3325
02:44:51,480 --> 02:44:52,040
Speaker 3: Joe rapper?

3326
02:44:52,160 --> 02:44:52,280
Speaker 6: Ya?

3327
02:44:52,360 --> 02:44:55,120
Speaker 4: Your nace did? Who? Why? I smoke on top of it?

3328
02:44:55,280 --> 02:44:56,439
Speaker 4: And he's listing.

3329
02:44:56,200 --> 02:44:59,240
Speaker 8: Literally people his gang have killed, right.

3330
02:44:59,760 --> 02:45:02,240
Speaker 4: And like I'm in my early thirties, so I was like.

3331
02:45:03,879 --> 02:45:07,040
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, She's like this is a bomp, like the

3332
02:45:07,200 --> 02:45:11,080
Speaker 3: thirty three parts, like they killed they killed this guy

3333
02:45:11,160 --> 02:45:12,720
Speaker 3: and we're saying his name on the track. And I

3334
02:45:12,760 --> 02:45:15,640
Speaker 3: remember Vanessa Carlson came out because like the internet was

3335
02:45:15,720 --> 02:45:17,560
Speaker 3: like how dare you clear that sample?

3336
02:45:17,800 --> 02:45:18,920
Speaker 4: Like how dare you do that?

3337
02:45:19,120 --> 02:45:22,400
Speaker 3: And she she she was talking to white people essentially,

3338
02:45:22,480 --> 02:45:24,880
Speaker 3: and was like, this is young black expression.

3339
02:45:24,920 --> 02:45:26,879
Speaker 4: Who am I to say no to it? And it's

3340
02:45:26,959 --> 02:45:29,560
Speaker 4: like I can take that argument, but like they're killing

3341
02:45:29,640 --> 02:45:30,920
Speaker 4: each other and thinking.

3342
02:45:30,760 --> 02:45:32,760
Speaker 1: About it on your song, and it's like and also

3343
02:45:32,959 --> 02:45:37,200
Speaker 1: there's no way she knew no. Yeah, they did the

3344
02:45:37,240 --> 02:45:39,880
Speaker 1: same thing, by the way, with Drake's sample, where r

3345
02:45:40,000 --> 02:45:44,160
Speaker 1: Kelly's credited in a sample, but Drake didn't make that beat,

3346
02:45:44,360 --> 02:45:46,600
Speaker 1: like forty the dude that made the beat had to

3347
02:45:46,640 --> 02:45:48,760
Speaker 1: clear the sample and then it's some type of technical

3348
02:45:48,800 --> 02:45:49,840
Speaker 1: shit where like but.

3349
02:45:49,920 --> 02:45:52,000
Speaker 4: It's also like he didn't even sample r Kelly.

3350
02:45:52,080 --> 02:45:53,760
Speaker 1: It was just like a thunderstorm.

3351
02:45:54,360 --> 02:45:54,560
Speaker 6: Yeah.

3352
02:45:54,600 --> 02:45:57,320
Speaker 1: It was like it's like it's the kind of thing

3353
02:45:57,400 --> 02:45:59,640
Speaker 1: that in twenty twenty one, with everything being digital, they

3354
02:45:59,640 --> 02:46:03,760
Speaker 1: could take off the album. Yeah, I would just take

3355
02:46:03,800 --> 02:46:05,720
Speaker 1: it off. But but at the same time, it's still

3356
02:46:05,760 --> 02:46:08,880
Speaker 1: funny because it was like, look at this motherfucker, he

3357
02:46:09,080 --> 02:46:12,320
Speaker 1: fucking with R Kelly and the like, well, that's probably

3358
02:46:12,560 --> 02:46:15,440
Speaker 1: not that simple. Like as soon as I read that

3359
02:46:15,520 --> 02:46:18,640
Speaker 1: TWEETOS like, it's probably more complicated than he wanted to

3360
02:46:18,680 --> 02:46:21,440
Speaker 1: give Kelly some money, and they were like, and then

3361
02:46:21,480 --> 02:46:24,240
Speaker 1: I saw people as they were learning, go, it doesn't

3362
02:46:24,280 --> 02:46:26,520
Speaker 1: matter that R. Kelly didn't get any money from this sample.

3363
02:46:26,560 --> 02:46:28,320
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I don't even know what.

3364
02:46:28,760 --> 02:46:30,280
Speaker 4: What are we mad about now?

3365
02:46:30,560 --> 02:46:33,840
Speaker 1: Like the nigga didn't get the money anyway. But yeah,

3366
02:46:33,879 --> 02:46:36,879
Speaker 1: it's just been it's it's always a fun conversation talking

3367
02:46:36,879 --> 02:46:38,520
Speaker 1: to you, right, Yes, we've been talking.

3368
02:46:40,320 --> 02:46:42,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're to doreend and I a gonna do it.

3369
02:46:42,640 --> 02:46:45,720
Speaker 1: We're hopping off. We're hopping off. Now. Tell everybody about

3370
02:46:45,760 --> 02:46:48,080
Speaker 1: the show and where you and Marsha.

3371
02:46:49,160 --> 02:46:53,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, so holler at Marcia and I. This show is

3372
02:46:53,240 --> 02:46:56,320
Speaker 3: called Jokes and Things with Ray Sonny and Marsha Bowski.

3373
02:46:56,800 --> 02:46:59,920
Speaker 3: And like I mentioned before, we're gonna have the Lucas brothers,

3374
02:47:00,080 --> 02:47:03,759
Speaker 3: Dan Slow to Sharp, Joe Firestone, and Sydney, Washington.

3375
02:47:04,320 --> 02:47:06,160
Speaker 4: Doing stand up. I'm doing stand up, March is doing

3376
02:47:06,200 --> 02:47:08,320
Speaker 4: stand up. I'm so excited, like we're so ready.

3377
02:47:08,440 --> 02:47:10,920
Speaker 3: September twenty ninth, that's a Wednesday in Brooklyn at the

3378
02:47:10,959 --> 02:47:14,720
Speaker 3: Bell House. You can find tickets on event Bright and

3379
02:47:15,160 --> 02:47:17,400
Speaker 3: Marsha and I were shooting a post and everything tomorrow,

3380
02:47:17,440 --> 02:47:19,760
Speaker 3: so we're gonna have something to post that you got.

3381
02:47:19,800 --> 02:47:21,080
Speaker 4: To click on there.

3382
02:47:21,200 --> 02:47:24,480
Speaker 3: But if you're excited after hearing me today and you

3383
02:47:24,560 --> 02:47:27,120
Speaker 3: want to jump the gun, just just search us on

3384
02:47:27,200 --> 02:47:30,680
Speaker 3: event Bright Jokes and things with ray SONI and Marchabelski,

3385
02:47:31,360 --> 02:47:34,880
Speaker 3: and then you can find my podcast, Dizziest Bitch at

3386
02:47:34,920 --> 02:47:38,640
Speaker 3: the Table on all your favorite podcast apps.

3387
02:47:40,200 --> 02:47:40,720
Speaker 4: And I have a.

3388
02:47:40,760 --> 02:47:43,480
Speaker 3: Patreon there too, so the main show I discuss like

3389
02:47:43,600 --> 02:47:48,120
Speaker 3: current reality TV, and on the Patreon, I'm doing rewatches

3390
02:47:48,160 --> 02:47:50,320
Speaker 3: of classic episodes of reality TV.

3391
02:47:50,440 --> 02:47:52,279
Speaker 4: I'm actually the work I'm supposed.

3392
02:47:51,959 --> 02:47:54,920
Speaker 3: To do is I'm gonna go recap the Dinner Party

3393
02:47:54,959 --> 02:47:57,200
Speaker 3: from Hell from season one of Real Housewives in Beverly Hills,

3394
02:47:57,200 --> 02:48:00,160
Speaker 3: which is and insane episode of television. Is tickets be

3395
02:48:00,200 --> 02:48:02,160
Speaker 3: so long to do because I keep watching and finding

3396
02:48:02,240 --> 02:48:04,800
Speaker 3: new things, and then I'm doing a full rewatch of

3397
02:48:04,879 --> 02:48:08,840
Speaker 3: shots of sunset. So it's gonna be a lot of fun.

3398
02:48:09,040 --> 02:48:13,160
Speaker 3: And I'm surprised how well people are responding to it already.

3399
02:48:13,320 --> 02:48:19,240
Speaker 3: Like I'm so fucking thrilled everyone nice read I read.

3400
02:48:19,080 --> 02:48:21,920
Speaker 4: The reviews and they were nice. And I've been feeling

3401
02:48:22,000 --> 02:48:24,400
Speaker 4: so insecure about the New York sounds. You guys just

3402
02:48:24,480 --> 02:48:28,440
Speaker 4: heard a landline for which I sincerely apologize. So that's

3403
02:48:28,520 --> 02:48:29,880
Speaker 4: what my life.

3404
02:48:30,520 --> 02:48:33,400
Speaker 3: My life is all on camera and stuff. And then

3405
02:48:33,440 --> 02:48:35,600
Speaker 3: you know, there's just I'll just be doing stand up

3406
02:48:35,640 --> 02:48:37,600
Speaker 3: around New York. Like I'm trying to see if it's

3407
02:48:37,640 --> 02:48:39,240
Speaker 3: safe to go on tour and stuff.

3408
02:48:39,320 --> 02:48:40,960
Speaker 4: My management and I are working on that.

3409
02:48:41,160 --> 02:48:43,840
Speaker 3: But like, if you're in the New York area, come

3410
02:48:43,959 --> 02:48:46,000
Speaker 3: check me out when I'm doing stand up. I'm good

3411
02:48:46,040 --> 02:48:49,600
Speaker 3: at it, I swear to God, and I'm having a blast,

3412
02:48:49,840 --> 02:48:52,880
Speaker 3: so you know. And then I like, I have some

3413
02:48:53,040 --> 02:48:55,120
Speaker 3: like projects in the work that will be coming out,

3414
02:48:55,200 --> 02:48:57,040
Speaker 3: so just be on the lookout for that stuff too.

3415
02:48:57,560 --> 02:48:59,960
Speaker 7: Wow, it's always a pleasure to catch up with you.

3416
02:49:00,120 --> 02:49:02,000
Speaker 7: You know, you straighten up rooting for you.

3417
02:49:03,120 --> 02:49:05,240
Speaker 1: I say you shouldn't do I say you shouldn't do

3418
02:49:05,280 --> 02:49:08,439
Speaker 1: parasocial relationships, but I feel like this is a social relationship.

3419
02:49:08,920 --> 02:49:11,560
Speaker 1: So y'all, if y'all see me defending right when she's wrong,

3420
02:49:11,760 --> 02:49:14,400
Speaker 1: just know that that's because that's my friend, right, And

3421
02:49:15,200 --> 02:49:17,360
Speaker 1: that's different than standing somebody.

3422
02:49:18,200 --> 02:49:20,280
Speaker 2: I actually know her. So I tell you that kiss

3423
02:49:20,320 --> 02:49:23,520
Speaker 2: my ass the pitbull sound.

3424
02:49:24,440 --> 02:49:28,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, we root for you and keep them and

3425
02:49:28,320 --> 02:49:31,000
Speaker 1: you can. The show is always available for you anytime

3426
02:49:31,040 --> 02:49:33,800
Speaker 1: you want to hop on. You're always walking off. Really,

3427
02:49:34,760 --> 02:49:36,240
Speaker 1: it's always fun to catch up with you.

3428
02:49:37,160 --> 02:49:39,440
Speaker 4: Yes, I feel like we never do new stories when

3429
02:49:39,440 --> 02:49:40,080
Speaker 4: I'm on your show.

3430
02:49:40,120 --> 02:49:42,760
Speaker 1: I had a bunch of them. I had a bunch

3431
02:49:42,840 --> 02:49:44,680
Speaker 1: of them save but we just got to talking and

3432
02:49:44,800 --> 02:49:46,640
Speaker 1: I didn't want to, Like, I love talking with you,

3433
02:49:46,760 --> 02:49:48,640
Speaker 1: of course, you know what I mean. So what I

3434
02:49:48,720 --> 02:49:50,920
Speaker 1: did was I snuck them into the show. Like I

3435
02:49:51,080 --> 02:49:58,160
Speaker 1: mentioned Cardig and Offset I mentioned Yeah, so I just

3436
02:49:58,280 --> 02:50:00,160
Speaker 1: what I did was I just mentioned the one that

3437
02:50:00,320 --> 02:50:03,080
Speaker 1: I thought were important though, But yeah, I mean, we

3438
02:50:03,160 --> 02:50:05,480
Speaker 1: could have also talked about John Hamm and his tiny

3439
02:50:05,560 --> 02:50:08,240
Speaker 1: shorts or oh I hear.

3440
02:50:08,520 --> 02:50:10,280
Speaker 4: He's got a big dick, right, maybe I'll go look

3441
02:50:10,320 --> 02:50:10,520
Speaker 4: for that.

3442
02:50:11,600 --> 02:50:15,560
Speaker 1: Short and Lebron James apparently leaves little to the imagination

3443
02:50:15,680 --> 02:50:21,960
Speaker 1: wearing some compression pants and David David Beckham's butt was

3444
02:50:22,040 --> 02:50:26,360
Speaker 1: hanging out and his wife. Yeah, so I had I

3445
02:50:26,480 --> 02:50:28,960
Speaker 1: did have things say, but I felt like our conversation.

3446
02:50:29,160 --> 02:50:31,240
Speaker 2: Oh so there's other things that compress her, but the

3447
02:50:31,400 --> 02:50:32,199
Speaker 2: socks apparently.

3448
02:50:32,640 --> 02:50:35,040
Speaker 4: No. I actually really need to go see the Lebron

3449
02:50:35,080 --> 02:50:37,400
Speaker 4: one because I've been wondering about that for years.

3450
02:50:38,840 --> 02:50:40,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like a lot of people have. I

3451
02:50:40,600 --> 02:50:42,560
Speaker 1: feel like it's let me see if I can share

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02:50:42,600 --> 02:50:45,879
Speaker 1: the screen real quick before we get off, and hopefully

3453
02:50:45,920 --> 02:50:50,520
Speaker 1: it doesn't hopefully it doesn't disappoint. But how do I

3454
02:50:50,600 --> 02:50:51,240
Speaker 1: make it bigger?

3455
02:50:51,560 --> 02:50:51,880
Speaker 4: Click on?

3456
02:50:51,959 --> 02:50:55,600
Speaker 1: This doesn't make it bigger? So I don't feel like

3457
02:50:55,640 --> 02:50:56,520
Speaker 1: you can see the print.

3458
02:50:56,600 --> 02:51:00,920
Speaker 4: Really, you can't really see Lebron got me again?

3459
02:51:01,320 --> 02:51:03,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, but what do they This is

3460
02:51:04,040 --> 02:51:09,720
Speaker 1: like how Instagram says somebody's topless. Oh yeah, topless.

3461
02:51:10,080 --> 02:51:13,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like he's wearing boxers. I mean boxers

3462
02:51:13,120 --> 02:51:14,720
Speaker 3: are briefs.

3463
02:51:14,720 --> 02:51:20,800
Speaker 1: Overrated, all right, Michael Jordan would have wore tidy whities

3464
02:51:20,920 --> 02:51:21,200
Speaker 1: all right?

3465
02:51:21,320 --> 02:51:25,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, the thing is we dirty too. I don't know why.

3466
02:51:25,640 --> 02:51:28,640
Speaker 2: People like like it's just the men's people like a

3467
02:51:28,720 --> 02:51:30,199
Speaker 2: good women like a good dick pic.

3468
02:51:30,840 --> 02:51:34,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I'm just here to serve the people, all right,

3469
02:51:35,760 --> 02:51:39,520
Speaker 1: like people always do that ride. You don't know what

3470
02:51:39,600 --> 02:51:42,040
Speaker 1: about hearing you think Serena Williams are tracking them, like,

3471
02:51:42,080 --> 02:51:44,640
Speaker 1: first of all, everybody should, but okay, second of all,

3472
02:51:44,760 --> 02:51:48,680
Speaker 1: no one's stopping Karen from lusty after the rock. It's fine. Yes, anyway,

3473
02:51:48,720 --> 02:51:51,480
Speaker 1: we'll be back tomorrow and we'll probably will cover a

3474
02:51:51,520 --> 02:51:54,080
Speaker 1: lot of news stories and talk about coronavirus and all that.

3475
02:51:54,200 --> 02:51:54,440
Speaker 6: Ship.

3476
02:51:55,240 --> 02:51:59,200
Speaker 1: Ray, We're always rooting for you, We love you, were you.

3477
02:52:00,280 --> 02:52:01,760
Speaker 7: You want to be on, let us know.

3478
02:52:02,160 --> 02:52:03,760
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to if you want to come talk

3479
02:52:03,760 --> 02:52:06,000
Speaker 1: about news stuff, it doesn't have to be an event, Like,

3480
02:52:06,080 --> 02:52:08,760
Speaker 1: don't wait two years between shows and then we can

3481
02:52:08,879 --> 02:52:13,119
Speaker 1: just talk bullshit. So come back, all right, y'all. We'll

3482
02:52:13,160 --> 02:52:13,920
Speaker 1: be back tomorrow.

3483
02:52:14,440 --> 02:52:16,039
Speaker 7: Live show link in the chat.

3484
02:52:16,840 --> 02:52:21,880
Speaker 1: Link to Race show is linked to Ray and Marsha's

3485
02:52:21,879 --> 02:52:24,240
Speaker 1: show will also be in the chat. So I mean

3486
02:52:24,320 --> 02:52:26,080
Speaker 1: in the show notes, That's what I meant in the

3487
02:52:26,120 --> 02:52:27,920
Speaker 1: show notes. So make sure y'll click on those things.

3488
02:52:28,160 --> 02:52:30,840
Speaker 1: Support the people you love and go join her Patreon,

3489
02:52:30,959 --> 02:52:33,240
Speaker 1: go listen to her podcast. It's very funny. I don't

3490
02:52:33,240 --> 02:52:35,640
Speaker 1: even watch reality shows and I listened to the show

3491
02:52:35,720 --> 02:52:38,000
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is very good. So all right,

3492
02:52:38,000 --> 02:52:40,480
Speaker 1: we'll talk to y'all soon. Until next time, I love

3493
02:52:40,520 --> 02:52:41,440
Speaker 1: you you wh