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Speaker 1: We're gonna introduce my man's last. But to my far

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Speaker 1: prayer least. How you went nasty, cool and national. Let's

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Speaker 1: get to a baby another one. Okay, say out of uniform,

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Speaker 1: but it's all good. It's all good. Hey Norse, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, You and me and West Kid.

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Speaker 1: But you have you ever seen them feats over there?

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Speaker 1: The black forces with the white license.

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Speaker 4: I've never seen those before.

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Speaker 1: I get you up here, bro, you were like that,

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Speaker 1: I guess now, so you can you see a nigga

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Speaker 1: his own license now too, though, so yeah up, yeah

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Speaker 1: shoe licens might mean my own licens, bro, So shout

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Speaker 5: That's where it started.

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Speaker 2: We try to spread the Black fortes across the world.

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Speaker 2: That's about right, my dog. You're not sure your tea?

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Speaker 4: How you wre man?

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Speaker 2: I'm chilling, bro, I'm cool.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad. We got my guy in the building. Still

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Speaker 1: fuck Cleveland State. But it's all love.

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Speaker 4: Listen, this wasn't even playing. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: You got the Columbia's on. My boy got the what's

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Speaker 2: having his own already be at the Gamazon. It's love, bro,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Black against white, it's all of.

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Speaker 4: Sixty.

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Speaker 2: That's perfect.

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Speaker 4: When we played them, remember us say the day that

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Speaker 4: the rank so we was both ranked and whoever win

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Speaker 4: that game was going to be number one, and obviously

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Speaker 4: they won. But like that was my first introduction to

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Speaker 4: on like film, but like he was like a mountain.

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Speaker 4: Now of course it was no layup ruling effect like

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Speaker 4: so it was like shoot three, shoot three. Then you know,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, was that your first time I'm seeing somebody like that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was my first time seeing Yeah. I mean

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Speaker 4: We played against scoring point guards and fast point guard.

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Speaker 4: But Mike had the ultimate balance. He was super quick,

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Speaker 1: Like Mike would He could not score the game and

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Speaker 5: He averaged eleven in high school.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was tough, but eleven assists two.

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Speaker 5: Though he was but I'm saying, though, niggas really like

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Speaker 4: Dunk right foot dunk let right two.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny hearing that both of y'all because of

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Speaker 4: But Mike was different.

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Speaker 4: Like you said, from the free throw line with two

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Speaker 5: He's like for what I heard? You play football too, though, Bro,

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Speaker 4: It was low level. For basketball, I never got only

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Speaker 4: For football, I would get like max schools Toledo. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: To ask how you got but you said that was

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Speaker 4: Then Cleveland State. You know, they came and watched me

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Speaker 1: That was all she wrote after that, that's a lot

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Speaker 1: of motivations for something. These guys who on got office

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Speaker 4: Don't have no go where they want you. I was

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Speaker 4: It was like having me pay half to get on

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna be the guy. So I'm like cool. And

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Speaker 4: then Cleveland State came. They came to my house, sat

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Speaker 2: That's what's up, man, Cleveland State.

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Speaker 6: To say that ship about twenty years we're here, now, let's.

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Speaker 2: Talk about it. Sixty nine, we had a lot of

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, first year at Cleveland State. Did you you didn't

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Speaker 4: Did you have to the keys?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 4: Listen, we gonna get to that average like five points

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Speaker 4: a game was on the line and I was back.

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Speaker 4: never did conditioning because that no brow. We were so talented,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, I'm not good enough right now. So

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Speaker 4: my freshman year was all about getting acclimated. I started

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Speaker 4: my skills. I never practiced dribbling, bro. That was the

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Speaker 4: And it was like I went from averaging five points

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's because y'all bet shit.

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Speaker 4: I remember that y'all played against Syracuse Florida State. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Now we watched y'all beat Syracuse because y'all, I think

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Speaker 4: He came from U St. John's somewhere. John.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I remember watching he caught a live or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go top ten.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go top ten and damn like after that,

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Speaker 1: So we we watched film on y'all, but not really

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Speaker 1: he's too small, and then I'll never forget Our coach

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Speaker 6: We went to the club the night before, we knew that,

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Speaker 6: We was living like we was rock star time baby.

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Speaker 6: So he ended up they ended up showing us him.

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Speaker 6: But they was like they point guard the Cedric kid.

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Speaker 6: He was like, bro, he can play.

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Speaker 1: We like, yeah, who's that nigga? He transferred? I know

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Speaker 1: he can't, you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, man,

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Speaker 1: I ain't worried about him. They was like, they got

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Speaker 4: He was our best he was our real best player.

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Speaker 4: Jonathan Bullock. Yeah, but he played football. Yeah, he got

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Speaker 4: a he after he finished he went to the Jets

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Speaker 4: and got on their practice squad right away and never

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, They was just like he a football player.

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Speaker 1: He ain't even a basketball I never forget that. And

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Speaker 1: I know the game start. He had a bank three

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Speaker 1: and our coach called the time out. He said, We're

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Speaker 1: we ain't about to lose to these sadass nigga. That

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Speaker 1: shiit just started getting spooky. I'm looking what the fuck?

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Speaker 4: He said, y'all want to go to South Beach. Bus

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Speaker 2: Ship nigga.

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Speaker 1: I was walking on the beach, went to a club.

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Speaker 1: that time, but we just vibing. We knew we was good,

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Speaker 1: so I said part nigga. We got that game, we

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Speaker 2: Just started arguing. Our whole team was then I just

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Speaker 1: They was trapping every time I came off bos screen.

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Speaker 1: Two people here. I'm like, y'all, niggas gotta make a shot.

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Speaker 1: Niggas was breaking them. Niggas was celebrating my bracket.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to the bragget.

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Speaker 4: But the thing is the way we play against y'all.

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Speaker 4: That's how we played against everybody. Like we trapped ball screens,

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Speaker 1: Now, y'all, defense was a one I wouldn't I was.

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Speaker 1: I had an attitude that game though, So I didn't

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Speaker 5: He's like, you played like a whole.

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Speaker 2: At eight point.

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Speaker 4: I don't even know what I had. I'm like eight

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Speaker 4: noine point. It was ironic. Pat Rdy was at that game.

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Speaker 5: Damn.

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Speaker 4: He ended up drafting me like he was at the game,

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Speaker 4: sitting a few rolls away from my parents, and my

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Speaker 4: I was like, nah, I didn't know that, but like, okay,

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Speaker 4: I got judged, like, man, I saw you play as

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Speaker 4: a sophomore. You ain't even know, like we was looking

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Speaker 1: It's crazy, look at it. You have to get drafted,

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Speaker 1: all work out, always gonna give him.

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Speaker 2: Mother fuck, it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: That's a hell of a story though. It's really crazy, though,

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Speaker 4: you know, So what's uh, James, So you know how

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Speaker 4: j Nathan was like, if these cats walked through our

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Speaker 4: I'm like, now looking back, I said, I'm glad.

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Speaker 2: Like I was like, because at the time, you know,

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Speaker 4: Big Dog don't get Big Dog like, can't nobody whip him.

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Speaker 4: So he's like, bro, they walked through the line one

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Speaker 4: more time, but I don't care which one of them is,

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Speaker 4: I'm about to get active and we're like whatever, and

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Speaker 4: then like now, I'm like, I'm so glad that.

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Speaker 2: In a bowling box one place after one puce after

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Speaker 2: live that.

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Speaker 4: I just got. You know, you're a homie now, so

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Speaker 4: he's so cool. He talked about that, and I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I never told him. Now, I was like, bro, when

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Speaker 4: to be something I'm like and it would have got

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Speaker 4: so ugly so fast, man, because he know he's the

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Speaker 4: truth with it though, you know, because you were.

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Speaker 5: But he don't.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: That was.

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Speaker 4: They shout out to jaj Bro.

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Speaker 2: I see him do out here.

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Speaker 4: Yep, he did come for the ain't gonna be no

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Speaker 4: more running into the locker room. They signed him right

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Speaker 4: after that.

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Speaker 5: That game.

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Speaker 6: Again, Go get that game, man, leave him alone, keep it.

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Speaker 5: What was your most memorable tournament game?

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Speaker 4: That one?

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Speaker 5: That one you got off the most on that one?

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Speaker 4: I mean I had seventeen against Arizonable, we lost. I

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, but what's fucked up is though about that

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Speaker 1: y'all beating us. I never forget so Rick Patino, I

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Speaker 1: had beef for him because he didn't recruit me, but

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Speaker 1: had beef for him. So I wanted to play Louisville

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Speaker 1: I got to watch that twelve five matchup Cleveland State

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Speaker 1: I was like, bitch, we're gonna beat you out. What

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Speaker 1: I was like, man, that's why I'd be so hyped

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Speaker 4: The Big East, though, he watched us play against South

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Speaker 4: Florida's in the Biggest when we be serious, was they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt the way though the.

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Speaker 4: Waters we used to coach workers. My coach can't Cleveland State.

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Speaker 4: He was a ruggers, so he came from the Big EI,

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Speaker 4: so he had that relationship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he said that ship and that ship happened.

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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna I wasn't mad because I know I

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Speaker 1: was about to go to the NBA, but I was

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Speaker 2: That's my biggest thing, I.

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Speaker 4: Know, because they smasters on it like they did them.

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Speaker 5: He would have tried to get fifth.

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Speaker 2: I would have tried to.

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Speaker 1: We hired out our beef iver, but I was gonna

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Speaker 1: get fifty on them.

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Speaker 2: That's what I did.

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Speaker 1: I would have went to Louisville. I wish I could

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Speaker 1: hell and I wouldn't know. I wasn't about to be

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Speaker 1: pressing like that. I'm glad I went where I went

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Speaker 1: because the defense was not a priority. So I gotta

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Speaker 1: ask you this first, the who the ones you gotta

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Speaker 1: play first? Edgar or the Sean Jackson? The Sean Jackson.

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Speaker 1: That's joke jokes.

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Speaker 5: That's for the internet, jokes, bro.

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Speaker 2: What he says for content that jokes. Worry about jokes.

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Speaker 4: Guard play was tough back then. Least you had to

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Speaker 4: really strap.

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Speaker 2: Up, Like who was Arizona guard?

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Speaker 4: They had Nick Wise get busy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, his number circle too. I should have circled just ship.

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Speaker 4: That was.

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Speaker 5: Can't be in front of They be shelling them too.

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Speaker 5: They be shelling them to Wash.

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Speaker 2: I was they had a good team that the Horizon

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Speaker 2: League so killed at that time. Obvious.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, you hold it down. He

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Speaker 5: Did you play against Justine Sir? Show you didn't? Okay,

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Speaker 5: he was too young. I thought you played for uh,

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Speaker 5: damn some school in Chicago or the lawyer Loyola. He

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Speaker 5: played for Loyal I know.

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Speaker 4: I'm being honest. I didn't know. None of the player's

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Speaker 4: name is in our conference. So we played them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, we can move on. But he was one

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Speaker 5: of just Sir was one of them.

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Speaker 4: I remember his same year.

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Speaker 1: I remember because they beat us, so obviously I just

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Speaker 1: senior year. Nigga, he was getting forty and Ship. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: then got a box. Oh this nigga that turned out that's.

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Speaker 4: Forty. I'm like, yeah, he's wow.

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Speaker 5: Did you average one twenty two or some shit like that?

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Speaker 2: How was that six and six?

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Speaker 5: Bro?

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Speaker 4: My senior year like magic, I'm gonna be honest, because

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Speaker 4: I was having an out of body experience, like I

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Speaker 4: couldn't even explain what was going Damn. You know how

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Speaker 4: coaches say work hard, work hard, and eventually to payoff.

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Speaker 4: Casts be like when it is gonna pay off, Like

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Speaker 4: my senior year was just my three years before that

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Speaker 4: paying off. Damn all the working out three times a day.

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Speaker 4: You know. I used to kill myself in the workout.

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Speaker 4: But my teammates thought I was like weird, like right way,

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Speaker 4: come back midnight. Like I don't even know how I

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Speaker 4: did homework to stay eligible, bro, because I was working

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Speaker 4: at all day long. Because I went to the Darren

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Speaker 4: So I said, oh, I got it. They think I'm

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Speaker 4: oh that's her, that's fine. That's what my senior year was.

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Speaker 5: Just like he was going crazy, bro.

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Speaker 4: And I saw blood like I saw he was going crazy.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy. That's crazy that Nigga put on that year.

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Speaker 1: I was watching because we thought about in Atlanta, they

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Speaker 1: trying to replace me, I really yours.

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Speaker 4: I worked out in Atlanta though, like for the draft,

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Speaker 4: that's where I was like my boot camp bat down there.

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Speaker 4: I was down here. I was working out with Tony

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Speaker 4: and I heard of it. It was in. It was

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Speaker 4: in like a little if I do it right here.

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Speaker 4: He had a house that's where I worked out at. Okay,

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Speaker 4: every day, twice a day. I was in there and

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Speaker 4: it was like hot in there too. Bro.

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Speaker 2: They signed Brian Bro.

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Speaker 5: The signed they How was your drying process, though, Bro? Like,

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Speaker 5: how many teams did you work out for?

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Speaker 4: I did eleven workouts, so I knew my range was

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Speaker 4: like after lottery like fourteen to like early second round.

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Speaker 4: I knew like I was gonna go like I knew

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Speaker 4: I wasn't gonna go below Miami. Okay, So I worked

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Speaker 4: out for eleven teams. My agent wanted me to do

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Speaker 4: like two more, and I was like, nah, I'm not

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Speaker 4: they don't think I'm good enough by now, I'm just

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Speaker 4: because I was exhausted because my senior year, I was

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Speaker 4: exhausted because coach wore me. I played every minute of

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Speaker 4: Like after the season was over. I went to school

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Speaker 4: for like maybe one more month, and I left school early,

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Speaker 4: like I talked to the professors. I was able to

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Speaker 5: Damn.

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Speaker 4: So I did eleven workouts and I was done.

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Speaker 5: Any of them. Teams ever be like we're taking you noors.

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Speaker 4: No, because I know what. I wasn't hands on like

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Speaker 4: that because I ain't care. I'm coming from Cleveland State,

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Speaker 4: so I ain't had no ego. I was just like this,

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Speaker 4: I'm dog walking on. That was wod you killed?

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Speaker 4: Who you killed? I asked some who I have just.

440
00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,040
Speaker 5: Talking about your competitive workout?

441
00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,760
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know everybody's name because I'm at

442
00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,480
Speaker 4: Cleveland State. I an't play, so I ain't really know.

443
00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:32,240
Speaker 2: You know, now you know, Remember it was a basic.

444
00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:36,600
Speaker 4: I worked out against the guard from u C.

445
00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:36,840
Speaker 5: L A.

446
00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,800
Speaker 4: I think his name Malcolm Lee or something cool in

447
00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,920
Speaker 4: the league. For I know, I worked out what's the

448
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,240
Speaker 4: guy from Kansas shell Uh, Josh Shelby.

449
00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:46,800
Speaker 5: I worked.

450
00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,440
Speaker 4: There mcamee from that was my guy What's the Good

451
00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:54,160
Speaker 4: from Michigan State?

452
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,880
Speaker 2: That was all American Michigan State Lucasas. Yeah, you cook them.

453
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:00,840
Speaker 5: You have some as workouts.

454
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,040
Speaker 4: I worked out with a lot of people, Yeah, some hoopers.

455
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,159
Speaker 4: A couple of my workouts I was with guys that

456
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 4: was like that. Like I worked out with what's uh

457
00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:10,520
Speaker 4: Changler Parsons.

458
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,640
Speaker 7: I worked out at Miami with him.

459
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 4: We was on the same team. And be honest, we

460
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:17,600
Speaker 4: played that day. We didn't do one on ones. We

461
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 4: did like three on threes and four and four.

462
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:20,399
Speaker 1: Uh.

463
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,880
Speaker 4: Who was I think the Klay Thompson workout Charlotte.

464
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I ain't gonna say you cooked him. I'm just

465
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 2: gonna keep it.

466
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:34,160
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say like that. It was one other cat.

467
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,359
Speaker 4: I can't remember. Uh it was in Okay. See, I

468
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 4: can't remember who it was. But I cooked that whole workout.

469
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 4: Uh he went to Villanova. What's the dude him?

470
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:44,120
Speaker 5: Yeah?

471
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:45,439
Speaker 4: Ye he cooked ye.

472
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:51,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm gonna be honest though, all my.

473
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,879
Speaker 4: Workouts I cooked. Just about I killed my workouts. I

474
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 4: believe it because I didn't. I didn't play like in

475
00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 4: the A C.

476
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 2: C term the Big East turn a surprise.

477
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 1: That's how I know you cooked because it get picked

478
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,160
Speaker 1: first round, Like, yeah, you gotta go on the workout

479
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 1: and improved someone like thin.

480
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 5: It went crazy, especially from Cleveland State for.

481
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 1: Sure, and obviously know where you go end up in Miami.

482
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 1: You know he's gonna be apart. You know what I'm sing,

483
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:16,880
Speaker 1: It's crazy. You know what I'm saying. You talk about

484
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,200
Speaker 1: every point of your life. Senior year to get to college.

485
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. D one, you went crazy,

486
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 1: win the chip, then you went courage and the tournament

487
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 1: went crazy last year. Now you get your league and

488
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 1: then you walk into one of the craziest situations in basketball.

489
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 4: That was I ain't gonna lie. I was excited because

490
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 4: I always won, Like my high school we won, we

491
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 4: won in college in the Horizon League. So I wanted

492
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 4: to go somewhere where we can win. But I also

493
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 4: wanted to be a part of the winning. So when

494
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,439
Speaker 4: I got drafted there, I'm like, I was happy, And

495
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 4: then like after the first day, I was like, all right,

496
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,199
Speaker 4: I gotta get ready because they don't necessarily need me.

497
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 4: They went to the finals last year. Whatever me Like,

498
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,120
Speaker 4: I gotta make my imprints so I can get on

499
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 4: the court. That's the first thing I started thinking about, Like, Okay,

500
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 4: I gotta get ready because if I don't do right,

501
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 4: I sent the bench the whole year. I didn't want

502
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 4: to go to the G League. You know, I want

503
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 4: to do what's called the the d lea. Back then,

504
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 4: I was like, I ain't never want to get regulated,

505
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 4: no offense to catch the dude. But like, I ain't

506
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 4: want to do that. Already did my four years of school.

507
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 4: I didn't want to do no more developing. I wanted

508
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 4: to develop on the big team. So first day I

509
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 4: was excited. Next day I was like, all right, it's

510
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 4: time to get to work so I can earn their respect.

511
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 5: How was that first practice?

512
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 4: You know, we had to lockout, oh ship, right, bro.

513
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 4: I worked out with Brin a couple of times because

514
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 4: he's from Ohio crib And it's funny. I worked out

515
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 4: in some Adidas. Bro. I walked in that man's house

516
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 4: in some some d Ros Adidas, and hey looked at

517
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 4: me crazy. That's how I got my Nike deal.

518
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 5: Okay, that's all.

519
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 4: It was like one of his home. It was like,

520
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 4: why you wearing Adidas? I said, because they gonna pay me.

521
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 4: They giving me the contract. He said, Bro, what they

522
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 4: paying you? And I looked at him. He said, no, seriously,

523
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 4: what they paying you? Whatever? They paying you, the guy's

524
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 4: gonna call you tomorrow, and I'm like whatever. We finished

525
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 4: the workout and a guy from Nike called me the

526
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 4: next day and said, he, uh, what do you want

527
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 4: for us to switch you over to? And I told

528
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 4: him I should have uped it up. So I just

529
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,919
Speaker 4: sent them the straight contract that gave me and I

530
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 4: switched to Nike that the next day.

531
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 5: So I said.

532
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 1: That story, that's a fire story.

533
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 4: That's that's when I realized casts got real influence out here.

534
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 4: Like the next day, Cat from Nike said, hey, Norris, Yeah,

535
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,959
Speaker 4: so what's your He didn't even say how you doing nothing?

536
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

537
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 4: Nor yeah, So what's the what's your contract with the

538
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 4: What do we need to do to sign you over?

539
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 4: Like send us your numbers so we can get that

540
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 4: team care of. I was like, cool, check your phone,

541
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna text you my contract. Just just give me this,

542
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 4: and that's what they did. But we ain't have practice

543
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 4: until December because our first game was Christmas. So we

544
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 4: had training camp two weeks in December and then we like,

545
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 4: so I didn't get to play summer League. I didn't

546
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 4: get to like have those pre workouts before, you know,

547
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 4: how you work out, come in before practice the young

548
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 4: dudes do before the first I didn't get to do

549
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 4: none of that. So it's like my first day of

550
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 4: practice was my first day of practice.

551
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 1: Okay, when you cracked the like lineup, like you get

552
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 1: a chance to get in the games.

553
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 4: I knew I was gonna get in, like I knew

554
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 4: I was gonna get in, just because how I was

555
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 4: doing in practice in preseason. And they don't lie to

556
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 4: you in Miami like they they don't. They don't like

557
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 4: feed you like fools, go you know how something, Oh,

558
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 4: good job, fel you're gonna do that, and then you'd

559
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 4: be like, dang, I ain't play a minute. I knew

560
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 4: I was like preseason games, I was like playing and

561
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 4: coaching let me make some mistakes. And then in practice

562
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 4: I was holding my own in practice, so I was like, Okay,

563
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 4: he gonna play me. And then he told me, like,

564
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 4: you know, be ready, So that's all I need to hear.

565
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 4: He don't gotta tell me you're gonna play this mean

566
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 4: minutes because they say, I'm just happy to be there.

567
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 4: He just like, stay ready on a fella. And as

568
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 4: soon it was time that first substitution, I'm like, oh,

569
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 4: he's serious. Code going against Dallas on TNT because they

570
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 4: want a championship. They beat us and get me a game.

571
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 4: I was like, all right, let's do it.

572
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 2: That Who is that matchup? When you first got in.

573
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 4: That's why they drafted me though the small garden, So

574
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 4: it was JJ Breal Jet had went to the Celtics,

575
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 4: real Jet.

576
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: I'm the real Jet Jason, since we're talking about the

577
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 1: real jat he we ain't talking about either, no kidding.

578
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 1: Terry were setting up that lobe the craziest Lebron.

579
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 4: We didn't think it was going to be that crazy

580
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 4: like because we had many like libs. But somehow it's

581
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 4: like that lived forever.

582
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 2: What bro that play is crazy part of history.

583
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 4: But at the time it happened, we didn't think that.

584
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 2: That nigga got killed a lot because of you.

585
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 5: You didn't see who, you didn't see Jet.

586
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 4: It didn't matter. I knew who was trailing. I was like,

587
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 4: can I can take the lay up or I can automatic?

588
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: That's why you was perfect from Miami because I would

589
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: have shot the lay up, they would have been hit.

590
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 5: Was the ultimate teammate facts.

591
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 4: I can't say bro I didn't fight the system at

592
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 4: all at first. When I first got there, I was

593
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 4: shooting a lot. I was playing like hot Tod that

594
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 4: Cleveland State, and they didn't. They didn't reel me in

595
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 4: real quick. They let me do it. Cause my first

596
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,479
Speaker 4: home game I had like twenty fourteen or fourth, I'm

597
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 4: realing it. So they waited till I had an off game.

598
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 4: As soon as I had an off game, they rilled

599
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 4: it in real quickpo was like, hey man, that wonder

600
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 4: will pull up with thirteen on the clock, fourteen on

601
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 4: the shot clock. That ain't what we want. That's Chris

602
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 4: Boss sitting that screen picking up Poppet. That's Ray Allen

603
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 4: standing over there. You know who Reyaliten is. I'm like, yeah,

604
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 4: that's the all time three point yeah. And that's that's

605
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,719
Speaker 4: the way or the way Lebron one one was in.

606
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 4: It's like that's a that's Dwayne Wade, that's the franchise

607
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 4: leader in points over there. You came off and shut

608
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 4: to pull up three while they're watching you play that.

609
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 4: That ain't how we want to play, and I was

610
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 4: just like, but Coach, I can make it. He was like,

611
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 4: and he looked at me, and I said, never mind.

612
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,239
Speaker 4: I said you right, So I said you're right. So

613
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 4: early in the o'clock, I'm coming off. Run into the

614
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 4: throw it, run into the corner because I want to play,

615
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 4: because they'll put you on that bench and bear you,

616
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 4: because it ain't nothing for them to be like, all right,

617
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 4: we're going with the big line up. Bron at the one,

618
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 4: d at the three, shame Ba at the four, Chris.

619
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 4: So if I didn't do right, that's what would have happened.

620
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 4: I didn't want that to happen. So I'm like, you

621
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 4: know what, cool, You ain't gonta say nothing else. I'm

622
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 4: gonna come off. That's why y'all used to know that.

623
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 4: Guards used to know.

624
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 2: I couldn't go back at him.

625
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 1: That's why I wanted Remember when I said that about Mario,

626
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: it wasn't no disrespect.

627
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: It wasn't we're gonna get to that too.

628
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 4: But I was a little different than him though, because

629
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 4: I was more aggressive than him, Like I was feistier

630
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 4: he was. Yeah, I used to really like this. I

631
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 4: wouldn't guarden.

632
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 2: That was gonna guard him because I mean he could shoot.

633
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 4: I know Mario.

634
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: I know because before like Bron got there, nigga, Mario

635
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: used to get to it. Yeah you know, but when

636
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: Bron got there, it was like different, and this is.

637
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 4: How you have to run to the corner. Bro. It

638
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 4: ain't no I'm gonna try my getting Bro. He would

639
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 4: make he started doing stuff like this by the nails.

640
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 4: Next thing, you know, go sit down, sit down.

641
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: I knew that.

642
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 5: See this is why I'll be saying like, I feel

643
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 5: like y'all just catch and I don't know if you

644
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 5: watch short, I feel like y'all just catch clips because Bro,

645
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 5: don't meet no malice behind the ship. It's just how

646
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 5: it should be clipped up. Because he was just saying,

647
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 5: ship if we in mother fucking Miami, I'm straight I

648
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 5: can go out because I know what Mario Finn do

649
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 5: the whole game, So I can go out to.

650
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: The by the set of screen or he going to

651
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: the court. Yeah, it wasn't never like it was sad.

652
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: He never said anything like I know, y'all not sad.

653
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: I know because I know when people sit out, when

654
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: Brian d wait it out, they go for thirty for.

655
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 4: Sure, second that was different than our starter unit. So

656
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 4: that start unit, like you said, it was real, like, yeah,

657
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 4: let Brian and d Wade do a lot of that.

658
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 4: In the second unit. I can handle the ball sometimes

659
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 4: at least to initiate it. Eventually, I was gonna have

660
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 4: to get off of at least I can initiate and

661
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 4: we play a little faster.

662
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: And y'all, y'all, y'all move it, especially when you had

663
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: d Wade. Y'all really moved it. Brian bron moved it,

664
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: but he did more like yeah, come here, Yeah, the

665
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: little guy comes up the screen, get the switch or whatever.

666
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 4: But I used to feel bad though sometimes for me,

667
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 4: because I knew he could, you know, he could score

668
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 4: a little bit. But like like you said, like you're

669
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 4: talking about two of the best perimeter players and the

670
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 4: n CB was one of the top scores. You gotta

671
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 4: get on the rock.

672
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:19,479
Speaker 2: It was just a man out.

673
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 5: I just pecking order, bro, and it's legit.

674
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, none of the.

675
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: Bigg It was all three first about.

676
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, off the best because.

677
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 2: Right off the minch and actually he was nice, bro.

678
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: It was just like, I know, you can't shoot that shot,

679
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: like you about to go off this picking roll. I'm

680
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: going under because you wont to shoot it, but I

681
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: know you can't.

682
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know you can make it, but you

683
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: can't shoot.

684
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: It because if you make her miss hitting, you canna

685
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: come out. You have you better make it. You make

686
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: it even if you make you somebody come out.

687
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 4: No past with fifteen on the shot clock, pick and

688
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 4: roll three, you shoul don't make it.

689
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: Spoke and I spoke.

690
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 4: Starting line up is bron and D and c By

691
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 4: think they have to run back on.

692
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,479
Speaker 1: I knew that because I used to do that with

693
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, Marvin Jamal. If I shoot the

694
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: ball and I don't make it, you're coming out.

695
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 5: That's why I we wanting him to speak more because

696
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 5: niggas don't even understand the life. He really had to

697
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 5: leave out before. Chalmers like had to live that life already.

698
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 5: He walked into the league in that I been watching.

699
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: Tough but that's when I started playing. But before I

700
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,479
Speaker 1: got there, we had Woodson. It was Io so like

701
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,479
Speaker 1: I so old Joe. We had Jamal, who that's.

702
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 5: God, Josh need that motherfucker.

703
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 2: Josh needed, Horford wanted, Marvin wanted.

704
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: Then we had other veterans I was just man, I

705
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: was just happy, Well we're going out tonight, And what's

706
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: so crazy both of your background because they were yeah

707
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 1: near my respect.

708
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 4: Though, like can open runs and in the summertime like

709
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 4: like in the pro whims and stuff. So like when

710
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 4: people come to Miami. That's how like everybody knew, like, nah,

711
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 4: he can hoop. He just playing his role. I never

712
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 4: wanted to be known as like, ain't nobody in the

713
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,239
Speaker 4: league watched, But you don't never want to be known

714
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 4: as one of them dudes. It's like self check, ain't

715
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 4: no self check. I'm playing my role.

716
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 5: But that's and see this goes to my but he

717
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 5: used to kill though, but norriskho That's why I think people,

718
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 5: like I said, when people watch our ship, they think

719
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 5: we di and know we understand it because this is

720
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 5: my nigga. I know where he had in. We used

721
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 5: to be mad at him for not going to get

722
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 5: thirty as your man's probably said, don't kill for sure,

723
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, because we're not realizing the game.

724
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 5: But that's why I was like, ship, maybe a nigga

725
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 5: probably would take a hundred million over.

726
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 4: Over the rings.

727
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: Easy for me.

728
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 4: Hundred elms.

729
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 5: Niggas mad because it wasn't no slight to norse that' said.

730
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 5: But niggas don't talk about enough.

731
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 4: That extreme is extreme. But I take, like, you know,

732
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 4: forty or fifty with my rings and not one hundred

733
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 4: with the rings. Didn't take a hundred with no rings though,

734
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 4: that's a tough extreme, though, one hundred or no, because

735
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:08,719
Speaker 4: a hundred is crazy, you know what I mean?

736
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 2: It is unred is different.

737
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 4: But I take the middle of the pack with the rings.

738
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel that. I mean, you can still have

739
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 2: the same life.

740
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 4: It's a lot like well we in the Midwest. That's

741
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 4: why we back here in the middleway, our bucks stretch

742
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 4: farther up.

743
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got the same life.

744
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 4: But to be known as a champion, bro, it's like

745
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 4: even if you win the best player, Like I was

746
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 4: a role player, but I played though, so anywhere that

747
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 4: time I go somewhere, it's like I get in rooms

748
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 4: that normally I wouldn't like other NBA players wouldn't be

749
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 4: able to get into just off a GP, like no,

750
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 4: that's cold. He played for the championship team that he

751
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 4: he good in here like yes, and I've seen that

752
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 4: happen in real life. I was going to a real

753
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 4: like VIP spot where it was like only fifty people

754
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 4: in there and I ain't had no invite. I just

755
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 4: happened to know it be dripping seeing it and I

756
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 4: was like, oh let me. It was like, oh, co

757
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 4: come on. And then the boss men, I was like,

758
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 4: oh yeah, no, Champion, he good and I'm like, Dan,

759
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 4: that's what it is. That's all it was.

760
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 5: And we always talking about relationships being worth more than money,

761
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 5: so we funk with that for sure. We was just

762
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,719
Speaker 5: that was the nature of the topic. My nigga one

763
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 5: hundred ms yeah, or do you want this more fucking ring?

764
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,239
Speaker 5: And we found out that niggas was selling them more

765
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 5: fucking rings. The chick on tim streets selling that mother

766
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 5: fucking thing.

767
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 4: You heard me something not because we ultimately played to

768
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 4: take care of your family, yes.

769
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 5: Bro, and that's all we say. It wasn't no hate,

770
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 5: you know what I mean?

771
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: Because I said Mario give up his ring for a

772
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: hunter Man for a Max deal. That's what I said.

773
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 4: I said, you give I was back then, it was

774
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,239
Speaker 4: not like the are now.

775
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 5: Even back then talking about right now with the players

776
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 5: was getting We never niggas saying.

777
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 6: I got this nigga up in this chair. Nigga, that's

778
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 6: all I even I get my ring up for a million?

779
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 6: Yeah right now, because you still know as a champion.

780
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 6: That's all I would say exactly, like I don't need

781
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 6: the actual ring. But if they said you can't.

782
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 4: Win around, are you talking about the actual ring ring?

783
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: Not that?

784
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying the champion I want.

785
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 4: It's not being a champion, like would you be a

786
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 4: champion for less money or would you like not want

787
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 4: to be a champion.

788
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: I don't want you.

789
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 8: I don't want to give a champion a champion. I

790
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 8: don't give you want to respect because you're still getting

791
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 8: to it. Yeah, I'm still respect, bro, and you a killer,

792
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 8: but I'm saying you knocked it down fifty percent. Niggas

793
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 8: talk about the Hunter. What you're doing for that Hunter?

794
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 2: As I said, yeah we did.

795
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 7: That was so appropriate that say, would you take fifty

796
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 7: million your rings or James Harden, I'm taking fifty in

797
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 7: my rings ship James two rings and fifty what James

798
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 7: hard touch power hundred?

799
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: Yeah I got you.

800
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 4: I remember though, for me and my what I value, Yeah,

801
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 4: fifty minute, I can get anything I want. I mean,

802
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 4: how many mentions can you get.

803
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 5: And you come from humble beginners like us, and.

804
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 4: You know, a million West. You know in the mid West,

805
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 4: a million dollar crib up here, in a million dollar

806
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 4: crib in Miami or l A is two different lifestyles.

807
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: No, for sure, I'm saying your life is gonna be normal.

808
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: But for me, three hundred million, what you want to do?

809
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 4: Like you can't spend it all?

810
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: Ship You're just saying my kids, kids, my mama, other kids.

811
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 2: You get that you want Nigga was careful.

812
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 4: It's not that, but careful Now that's I mean, I

813
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 4: am shout out to that. But I'm taking the fifty.

814
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 4: I know what fifty can do because I'm still gonna

815
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 4: live where we outlive at. You're gonna be You're gonna

816
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 4: live good.

817
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 2: But four hundred dogs you can figure something different. One hundred.

818
00:35:55,080 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: Live where I live somewhere worst Still, that's crazy. Like

819
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: you your first year in the league, got a ring?

820
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: How was that feeling? Rookie ye out the NBA lockout year?

821
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: Crazy shit?

822
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 2: And you get a championship.

823
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 4: It's gonna sound bad, I mean as humbly as possible,

824
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 4: but I thought that's how it's supposed to be. That's

825
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 4: what I thought how it was supposed to be. In

826
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 4: high school, That's how it was. We won the state

827
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 4: I went to Cleveland State. We won two conference championships.

828
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 4: So I'm like, this is what you're supposed to do,

829
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 4: you win chips. I ain't realize until the first year

830
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 4: we didn't win it. I was like, oh. And then

831
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 4: the next year when I got traded, like my fourth

832
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 4: year whatever, I got traded and played in New Orleans.

833
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 4: We lost the first round. I was like, oh, this

834
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 4: NBA life is different. Then when I didn't make the playoffs,

835
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 4: suicide watch like, like, what is going on?

836
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 6: Like?

837
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 4: So I thought it was normal, honestly, bro, I was like,

838
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 4: this is what it's supposed to be.

839
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: What was it like when you finally like when you

840
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: got traded.

841
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 4: Was a little I didn't know how to feel. I

842
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 4: was like a fish out of water because the team

843
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 4: didn't call me and tell me. I found out on

844
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 4: the ticker. D then found out on the ticker, and

845
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 4: then my agent. My agent didn't call intil it was official,

846
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 4: because when on the ticker, it don't be official. It

847
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 4: just be the paperwork winning, but you know behind the scenes.

848
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 4: So but once it became final. My agent called me

849
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 4: and I was like, I'm going to New Orleans. I'm like,

850
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 4: I'm going to Miami. To New Orleans, that's a whole different.

851
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 4: Like yeah, and guess who. The first game was against Miami.

852
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 4: I didn't even move out of my apartment. I stayed

853
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 4: in my apartment. New Orleans flew in, I met the

854
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 4: team at the hotel, went back to my apartment, and

855
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 4: didn't played Miami the next day, damn. And we won too.

856
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 4: But I was salty a little bit though, because I

857
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 4: thought I was gonna play my whole career. That's when

858
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 4: I learned the business of the NBA, because I thought

859
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 4: I was gonna play my whole career in Miami.

860
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 5: You got busy though.

861
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: Let me.

862
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 4: I like going there because I was able to show

863
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 4: what I could do.

864
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, they let you rock.

865
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

866
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 2: It was a cool city though.

867
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 4: I like coming from Miami, though, I mean, nothing cool

868
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 4: come from you go to Miami. You had a decent team, though.

869
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying it was nicey Miami. You gotta damn there,

870
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 1: go to New York to even like experience.

871
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 4: Like, I mean, you can go to like Houston or Atlanta.

872
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: Houston, Atlanta, but like Miami is just like when you

873
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: touch down, I ain't gonna lie every time we touch

874
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: down Miami, like.

875
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 2: I got happy ship, Like I'm about to go Prome

876
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: on twelve.

877
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: We about to play the heat Tom all the gym

878
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: gonna be hot, like it ain't gonna be You know,

879
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: you no offense to Philly fans, but when you go

880
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: to Philly in it during the season, it'd be freezing

881
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,479
Speaker 1: when you go to shoot around. You got the world

882
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 1: hoodies and all this ship. I used to hate playing

883
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: there New York. You go, if y'all go practice at

884
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 1: the garden, it's gonna be freezing.

885
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 4: W just be wow, be honest. You know how people

886
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 4: be excited about to play in the garden.

887
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 2: I ain't get that adreoling So I don't think you.

888
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: Was it remodeled when you first got in the league.

889
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:56,959
Speaker 4: I can't.

890
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 5: I don't know.

891
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: When I first got it wouldn't remin bottle yet. So

892
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: we had the old dressing rooms.

893
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 5: Bro.

894
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: Then you have to put all your clothes up because

895
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: they like the roaches and rats getting your ship.

896
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 2: You gotta keep them up high. I was like, yeah, lying.

897
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 4: Seen the rats though underneath when we walked to them.

898
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: They like, bro, keep your clothes up there. You can't

899
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 1: even like lamb. I'm like, damn, we went.

900
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 5: To a this is crazy and don't put no smoot

901
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 5: on my name, but went to the Bad Boys Reunion tour.

902
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 4: The Guard.

903
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 5: You tell me that weekend it's Philip Collins fault because

904
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 5: with for his birthday and he loved He not like that.

905
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 5: But I did wait for my niggid birthday party the time.

906
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 5: That's my best friend, and I ain't because I knew

907
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 5: so them rats in that guarden is it's real, bro, I.

908
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 4: Felt you know how people feel about the Guards. I

909
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 4: felt like playing like that in Chicago play there. Anytime

910
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 4: I played Chicago ball like that was like my are

911
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 4: playing there looking up there seeing two three. They had

912
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 4: to hollow the light. How the light used to hit it.

913
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 4: I used to be like the goat up there, like

914
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 4: let's get to it. That's how I felt every time

915
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 4: that studio goat.

916
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: Damn, I ain't like playing in Chicago. What's your favorite

917
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: place by Utah?

918
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 4: Really?

919
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 5: Yeah?

920
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not even being funny. I had I

921
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: had great. I've never not played good in Utah. The court,

922
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: you know how the backdrop is so close. The fans

923
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: is right there. It's like shooting in the high school

924
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: gym here, Indiana. Like when you shoot Indiana, know that

925
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: the fans right behind the go.

926
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 4: I used to like here because like I knew the

927
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,959
Speaker 4: whole I used to be deep. Yea, I need fifty

928
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 4: tickets this game because Dayton is like ninety minutes away.

929
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just talking about the backdrop. I know

930
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 1: I was gonna have good games, like Philly. Hated playing Philly.

931
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: The backdrop was so crazy. I'm like, I hate playing here.

932
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: Damn Boston. I had some good games and ball. I

933
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: like the crowd was great in Boston, So I like

934
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: playing in Boston.

935
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 5: You remember your best moment in the NBA from straight

936
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 5: from a hooping's perspective, selfish, like where he was getting

937
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 5: tour in Cleveland.

938
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 4: Uh, the weekend I got my my jersey retired at

939
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 4: Cleveland State. We played. I was in New Orleans. We

940
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 4: played at Cleveland. Okay, and like my parents and stuff,

941
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 4: Cleveland State, the whole school came to my game afternoon.

942
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 4: They had raised my jersey and the raptors I had

943
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 4: like twenty six and eight on them.

944
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: Okay, that's hard, bro, that's the hell of a moment, right,

945
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: that's far that was.

946
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 4: That was my favorite. That was probably like my favorite moment.

947
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: Okay, getting your jersey retired in school, that's hard, like

948
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: that was.

949
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 4: That was the best. The only thing that was better

950
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 4: was going into a hall of fame at the school. Damn,

951
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 4: because I didn't realize that's different. Hall of fame is

952
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 4: like different than like just getting your jersey retire.

953
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't know. Don't with me.

954
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 4: I think, wait for you gotta have degree. Yeah, I

955
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 4: think every school is like that. So I think Steph,

956
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 4: they haven't retired put him in the Hall of Fame

957
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 4: at Davidson yet, and that's crazy to me.

958
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, there should be exception ship should

959
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 2: be that should be excepted.

960
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: Come on, bro, game, I've seen people rocking zero way

961
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: for it so bad I just stopped looking. I'll never

962
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: forget they slewnging that jersey. I'll never forget the first

963
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 1: I made. I was All American by sophomore year, so

964
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: they like, you all American? How you do is graduate,

965
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: We're gonna retire your jersey. He's like, we don't have

966
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: many all Americans.

967
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 4: I'm like, damn for real.

968
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 1: The next year that maybe two years dude named Cody

969
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: McIntyre rocking that mother Cody Visious was not hooping it

970
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 1: that bitch. I'm like real zero, at least get some buckets.

971
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: He actually a good player now though I'll see I'm

972
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: watching games overseas. He actually be to see mac man.

973
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 4: He could have went online had somebody. Don't you have

974
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 4: somebody you know I'm in a transfer port.

975
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: I'm in a transporport right now. I'm trying.

976
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: I'm trying to somebody. You got money, I try to

977
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: go to University of Phoenix. I'm going to transfer everything.

978
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 4: I ain't going to I c d C.

979
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 2: You with the I c d C.

980
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 4: Give me my honorary to get to agreed quick.

981
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: Man, I'm for the I P I what do yourself?

982
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 5: I wanted to ask you though, hold on before we

983
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 5: keep going though, when you want to come on, that's

984
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 5: your get back respect when in that first because he

985
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 5: had like we got a power with this nigga. He

986
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 5: has the worst championship experience ever. Okay, can you just

987
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 5: speak for what you can't speak on?

988
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: Like?

989
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 5: How was that? Like that?

990
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 4: Like I heard so that's old? Ours was live. First

991
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 4: of all, we won on the first one on Sunday,

992
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 4: we all know on Suturday, and then the next one

993
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 4: we went on a Thursday, which is story Thursdays. So

994
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 4: it was it was like didn't sleep until the sun

995
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 4: was coming up. I didn't get back home to like

996
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 4: seven am, like it was his experience. And we parted

997
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 4: for like after a week, you don't want to party

998
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 4: no more. We parted for like a week, and then

999
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 4: we had the parade, and then after that, nobody want

1000
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 4: to party. We want to go on vacation.

1001
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 5: Wait a minute, you had a parade a week after

1002
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 5: between the parade was the next day, wasn't.

1003
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 2: No, it was like three days.

1004
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, no offense. You know, Milwaukee is

1005
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 4: different than Miami. Rally do things top not and you

1006
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 4: know they call it heat Nation, which people don't know.

1007
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 4: Heat Nation is built up of like little communities like

1008
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 4: Little Haiti, Little Havana, Miami Gardens, Liberty City. So we

1009
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 4: drove around the whole wasty like, we went around the

1010
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 4: whole grounds. So like we started at one place, we

1011
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 4: went through every little high leada, we went through every

1012
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 4: little hood and then it circled all the way back

1013
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 4: to the steps.

1014
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: You know.

1015
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was tough. That was tough.

1016
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: I asked you this question. Obviously he was around you

1017
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: saying everything for it. How was that feeling when you've

1018
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: seen ray Allen? You know what I'm saying, step back

1019
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: and knocked that bitch down.

1020
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: You see how that nigga was about.

1021
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 5: Play?

1022
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: That was.

1023
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 2: If you ain't supporting me, like how I was more

1024
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: than came. Oh god, bro, I said that nigga is

1025
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: heard right, Ladies ain't supporting.

1026
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 4: Listen, if y'all teammates, If y'all ain't supporting y'all teammates,

1027
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 4: and y'all people like that, they're not real. I was

1028
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 4: genuinely happy, like yo, because we know it looked like

1029
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 4: we was gonna lose. We never said that. We never

1030
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 4: said dangs.

1031
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: Oh.

1032
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 4: We was just like just taking one play at the time,

1033
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 4: that's all we said. So when he hit that shot,

1034
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, we're about to win. That's the

1035
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 4: biggest shot in NBA history up until that point. I

1036
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, and is he practiced that though? He

1037
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 4: practiced backpell and shooting, and we used to be like, right,

1038
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 4: like he's just just for balance, that's all he would say, just,

1039
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 4: you know, just just for balance. And he didn't take

1040
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 4: a look if you watched the film, he didn't take

1041
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 4: one look down at the ground. He back pedaled and

1042
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 4: caught that mother feet down.

1043
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: And damn yo, that Lebron legacy would be damn different.

1044
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: It'd be different, different conversations. Hell, yes, Lebron's legacy. I mean,

1045
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: not how great he is, but into how people comparing him.

1046
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 4: It wouldn't even be none.

1047
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: Like because if he lost to the Spurs, it would

1048
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: have been been three times in a row. Would have

1049
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: been crazy because that would have been the second time

1050
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: he would have lost, because Rember lost.

1051
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 2: He lost in Cleveland. So if he would have got that, yeah,

1052
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: and that Wasallas.

1053
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 4: The Big three Dallas, then we won. Then would have

1054
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 4: lost him ugly.

1055
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 2: It would have been like that.

1056
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 4: But people be saying that, but like, we would have

1057
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 4: never even been in that point in the game if

1058
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 4: it won for Bron, we was down and then he

1059
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 4: took over like.

1060
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 5: That, and then we.

1061
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: Know how.

1062
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 2: Ruined a lot of my playoff experiences. But Bron is

1063
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: he is. Really don't get no better than Bron. But

1064
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, you know what I was saying. You

1065
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: know how people look at it like Mike got six, Kobe.

1066
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: Got fim able to start doing the reports like, oh

1067
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: he lost when he had Dwyane Wade and Chris but

1068
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: he lost twice, that.

1069
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 4: Would have been a big hit. I don't. I don't

1070
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 4: say Jordan's though, just because of it, just because of

1071
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 4: the rings. It ain't just because of that. But you're thinking,

1072
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 4: I mean all I mean, just when I watch basketball,

1073
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 4: I never seen nobody better than Michael Jordan's from an

1074
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 4: impact perspective, from a fundamental like Jordan was the most

1075
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 4: fundamentally sound player and the most athletic, Like bron do

1076
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 4: stuff that can't nobody practice. You can practice all day,

1077
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 4: you can never do what you do just because of

1078
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 4: like his one leg shots and stuff like that. You

1079
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 4: can't practice shooting like that. He's that's like the gift

1080
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 4: that he got. Like so he he has stuff that

1081
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 4: you can't even practice doing.

1082
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 2: That's why I think he's the greatest.

1083
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 5: But I mean, what's the craziest shit you ever You've

1084
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 5: seen Brown do?

1085
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 4: Practice? Bro stuff, He's doing practices, stuff that never made

1086
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 4: it to the court was open, like it was one

1087
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 4: practice him in. D Wade got to going at it

1088
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 4: and it was like we was like, oh, goodness. Here

1089
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 4: there you go. It was just basically two basically like

1090
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 4: playing one on one in practice, but it was just

1091
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 4: four other cats out there. Yeah, but it was him

1092
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 4: like proving a point that he was different, because d

1093
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 4: Wade is different too, like for y'all don't know he is,

1094
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 4: he's an alien too. But like Wade was like, you know,

1095
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 4: hit a couple and it was started to be like, oh,

1096
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 4: it's about to be one of them practices, so everybody

1097
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 4: playing super hard. And then he started making shots that

1098
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 4: nobody can make like he started Greg Olden was in

1099
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 4: our practice, tell me no practice. He started like going

1100
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 4: shooting shots like wrong wrong leg, left hand, hooked layups.

1101
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 4: He started like doing like almost like Michael Jordan Leb's

1102
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 4: not looking and then he ad run down and look

1103
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 4: at pat right like I know, I know it's different.

1104
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 4: I know d Waye, y'all boy, but I know different.

1105
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 4: He would be doing stuff like that, and I'm like.

1106
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 6: I.

1107
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 2: Like not because that would have said some ship like that.

1108
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 4: I was in there like he ran he was. He

1109
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 4: was like, I know, he's like, I know, it's crazy.

1110
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 4: It's different. He come down shoot you know from wherever stuff.

1111
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 4: When he come down do stuff like that, and you

1112
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 4: just be like, all right, bro, let's let's move on

1113
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 4: to the practice the same the same proof, and now

1114
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 4: we get it, like.

1115
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: He's got to You got to experience the pocket telling

1116
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 1: that Nigga matching point for point.

1117
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 4: You way, people don't understand that he can really he's

1118
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 4: really a score. He let the media take that past first. There.

1119
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 5: He lets you all run with.

1120
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 4: It, and he ran with it.

1121
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 2: But he's led to every.

1122
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 4: Team he's ever played on inside attemps except one year,

1123
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 4: and he's led the league in like top five. I

1124
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 4: have been shot attempts every year of his career, like

1125
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 4: he'd be tricking y'all thinking, but that's his name.

1126
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 5: That's how he played the game. Though, just because I

1127
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 5: think because he's so versatile and how great of a

1128
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 5: pastor he really is, it kind of overshadows like.

1129
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 2: He's an all time leading scorer.

1130
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 4: Let me tell you how crazy it is. You know,

1131
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 4: it's like he's the all time leading scorer, but he's

1132
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 4: never led the league in assists, but people say he's

1133
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 4: the best pastor in the game.

1134
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 5: You know how crazy that is because it's his vision,

1135
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 5: I believe, though.

1136
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 4: Not for sure, but saying it's dudes that actually average

1137
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 4: tennis system, you know what I mean. Like, but Magic

1138
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 4: Johnson's Isaiah Thomas. Like when seasons where they average like

1139
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 4: twelve assistance, they still and Ron and they still say

1140
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 4: like he's the best passor they've ever seen. So I'm like, bro, he.

1141
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 5: Because his eyes, Bro, I think.

1142
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 4: So he's not fooling people because let me tell you,

1143
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,720
Speaker 4: niggas bucket, he cares about scoring.

1144
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 5: Bro, No, I believe it.

1145
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 4: He can score you saying you can outscore him. Bugget

1146
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 4: for buckets, Sean Jackson with that, bro, it ain't too many.

1147
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: But they went Dela Dover and I was like, I

1148
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 1: was killing and he was like you better keep that

1149
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,959
Speaker 1: ship going then and I was like, nigga ain't gonna stop.

1150
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 2: And he was like, well see if you go out

1151
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 2: score me. I was like, yeah, I had nineteen, what

1152
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 2: you end up with thirty eight.

1153
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 4: I've only seen him get outdoored one time. I was living.

1154
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 4: Only seen Bron get outdoored or like they was going

1155
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 4: at it and somebody outdoing him. I only seen it

1156
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 4: happen when I was there one time, and that was

1157
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 4: when uh and he got his get back, so it

1158
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 4: didn't matter but like that was when when Kate when

1159
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 4: we played OKAYC on Christmas and he went for like

1160
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 4: thirty something and KD went for thirty something. K might

1161
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 4: have had one or two points more, but like they

1162
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 4: was out there dueling to the point where it was like, okay,

1163
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 4: whichever one of them is the league scorer, that's what

1164
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 4: whose team was going in? And I seen many duels

1165
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 4: like that because when d Rose we played them, Yes, sir,

1166
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 4: the only reason we beat Chicago is because the Rose

1167
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 4: had I think, like thirty four and Brian had like

1168
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 4: thirty five. And when we would go out and play Mellow.

1169
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 5: Like it was like whoever about to say mellow? The

1170
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 5: matchups was crazy, but.

1171
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 4: It would be not so much Bron because Bron was

1172
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 4: what he would do, but whoever played better between Paul

1173
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 4: George and Daddy Granger and d Wade was gonna be

1174
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 4: who won. And d Wade used to get active against them.

1175
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 4: He used to especially the playoff time like like no,

1176
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 4: like no threes. He was like thirteen for twenty twenty

1177
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 4: five all field goals.

1178
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: Like yes, I was like, and what's crazy? Even though people,

1179
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: I mean, we lost them, but it was battles.

1180
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 4: Though it was battles, not Indiana used to make us

1181
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 4: go through it. It was that was what It changed.

1182
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 4: That verticality rule though here with the max.

1183
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 5: Player now right here, but changed the game.

1184
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 2: I'm still we had a young PG too. We still

1185
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 2: slip her.

1186
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 5: Career Brian Brian dominant, yeah, y'all and.

1187
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,479
Speaker 4: In there too we came off the miss Our best

1188
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 4: game was like, what's the different because starters if you

1189
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 4: look at the starters, like the score, it was about even.

1190
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 2: Talking about the Norse.

1191
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: It's crazy that y'all bench was the bench I had though,

1192
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: like having Shane, Baddy and Ray Allen come out of

1193
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 1: the bench Mike Millers, like the dudes is nice, Like

1194
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe you had some of them on the minimum,

1195
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,439
Speaker 1: like as a playing for the Hawks, Like we would

1196
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: have loved to have Ray Hellen for that, Like you

1197
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like how y'all you know I remember.

1198
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 4: All of them was like a hundred million dollar dudes.

1199
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 4: Though Mike Miller made crazy Bread crazy with a max.

1200
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: But like listen, we would have gave y'all probably five

1201
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: six minutes just to come to the super like you

1202
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have been a role player. You would have

1203
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: been our guy. I always want to ask media, I

1204
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: wonder how like that beef between him and Boston played

1205
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: O friend to go to Miami were because I feel

1206
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 1: like any any continuent would want to out at the

1207
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 1: time period.

1208
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 4: But Ray was trying to win and we had a

1209
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 4: need for him.

1210
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 2: That's the fact we had.

1211
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 4: He He could have went anywhere fit, but we had

1212
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 4: an actual need because Mike Miller I got back injury,

1213
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 4: and you know, we had James Jones. But James Jones

1214
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 4: was like a specialist shooter, you know, shout out the champ.

1215
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 4: He was a specialst shooter. But we needed him in

1216
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 4: that second unit and we put the way we play

1217
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 4: like played start unit, so we would like get up

1218
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 4: and down, and so we had a direct need and

1219
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,919
Speaker 4: so he was like, I come come there. The beef

1220
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 4: with Boston was just like salt on the wound. That

1221
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 4: was just like because he would have came anyway, like

1222
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 4: if he was coming from like Milwaukee or somewhere, he

1223
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 4: came to Miami. But that beef he had with them,

1224
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 4: that was just like I felt him though, because it's

1225
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 4: like they appreciated him the way they I can't say that, bro,

1226
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1227
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 5: Used to play with him. I'm speaking from a fan

1228
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 5: that's you know you fuck are right? I do too,

1229
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 5: but I'm saying you was in the gym, but I

1230
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,280
Speaker 5: feel like him leaving them to go to mic pulling

1231
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 5: up on y'all. From the outside, it looked crazy how

1232
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 5: my nigga don't.

1233
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: Feel the rivalry is like it was want to be

1234
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 1: one so bad bro real, because I just always felt

1235
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: like they ain't give a funk about Miami, like everybody

1236
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 1: else in the league was kind of like besides like okay,

1237
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: see in the Spurs in Dallas, Chicago too, Yeah, but

1238
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: everybody else kind of like, all right, we ain't gonna

1239
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 1: beat them, Like in Atlanta. We wanted to play them,

1240
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: but we I thought we could have beat y'all when

1241
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: we had Joe that team when I wasn't like my

1242
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 1: second year, I'm like star game.

1243
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 2: Nah, we col beat them that year. Hell no.

1244
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: But when I had when it was Joe, Jamal, Josh

1245
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: Marvin and I was coming off the bench, then they

1246
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 1: still had bit. I'm like, we can compete with them.

1247
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: Now we got we match up. We can switch one

1248
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: through five and you coming off the bench, yeah fast

1249
00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: for yeah, yeah, but I'm like, we match up with

1250
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: Bron and now Kurt Hiary came. They traded Bid we

1251
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: got That's when Bid went there, we got kur Haml.

1252
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: We can match up with him. We can play them

1253
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: now we probably wasn't a beat up, but we could

1254
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: match up.

1255
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 4: I ain't realize till after I left. We can match

1256
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 4: up with any team. It's just a matter of we

1257
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 4: would just play different. Like whatever team was gonna do something,

1258
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 4: we would just adjust our personnel. So like when we

1259
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 4: realized Chris Bosh, because Chris had been working on that

1260
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 4: three ball for a while, he just never incorporated and

1261
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 4: we remember he heard itself and came back from injury.

1262
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 4: That's when we started playing small ball with him at

1263
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 4: the five. Once we realized we could play like that,

1264
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 4: we was like, however, teams want to play. If the

1265
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 4: team want to go big, we would just c B

1266
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 4: at the four, Birdman or u d or Joel Anthony

1267
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 4: play just make it ugly. Teams want to play pretty

1268
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 4: and go small ball. Ce B go to the five,

1269
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,399
Speaker 4: Bron to the four, Shane Battie and Guarth the four,

1270
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 4: d Way Ray me or Rio and then we had

1271
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 4: just playing like that, so we could play any style.

1272
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 4: And if you wanted to play iol ball, which nobody

1273
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 4: really wanted to play because d Wade was a real

1274
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 4: iceold player. Nobody wanted to play possession ball with us

1275
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 4: except San Antonio. There was the ultimate possessed team. With

1276
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,439
Speaker 4: everybody else, they knew they had to play a little

1277
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 4: fast because all we had to do was throw the

1278
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 4: ball to d Way on the wing, throw the ball

1279
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 4: to CV at the you know, run that horns.

1280
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 2: Actually that was a nightmare and a half o man.

1281
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 4: And then you you're gonna help off somebody and Shane

1282
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,919
Speaker 4: Batty is gonna knock it down, but or Mike Miller,

1283
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 4: they're gonna knock it down. So like I realized when

1284
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 4: I left, I was like, man, we could have played

1285
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 4: any style. Like people say, how would y'all compete against

1286
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 4: other championship teams? I'm honestly we could compete against any

1287
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 4: team because we could play any style. Its just a

1288
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 4: matter of us changing our personnel around.

1289
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: I like playing against you because you'll used to hedge

1290
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,959
Speaker 1: like college, I used to split them fucking ball screen.

1291
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: So I can't wait to play. I know we might

1292
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: not win. Well, I'm gonna have a good ass game.

1293
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get summed out the crowd.

1294
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 4: Stop doing that. It took us a long time to

1295
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 4: get out of doing that.

1296
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna get smmed out of the crowd. Damnigga

1297
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: out there, kilt.

1298
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 4: Let me get hurt, because boy, you used to have

1299
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 4: some good games. Yeah yeah, because the ball I'm like

1300
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 4: the only stayed splitting the boss college.

1301
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: But then I hated people who sat back because you

1302
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: had to play in the MIDI little pocket. You couldn't

1303
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: shoot threes because they a fight over, so you had

1304
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: to play in the midi by shot floaters.

1305
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 2: But they head something like let me get down here.

1306
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 4: I was opposite. I didn't like when teams were his

1307
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 4: because it was hard to make the pass out of

1308
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 4: the head didn't come off of the score anyway, so

1309
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 4: they would be like in the drop or like a

1310
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,439
Speaker 4: semi drop. T B was the best in the pocket past. Yeah,

1311
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 4: so I used to practice it, learn how to skip

1312
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 4: it like so it bounced right to a shooting pocket.

1313
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 4: And then with Shane Battier, he gonna pop offway to

1314
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 4: the three. So like you the got guard, you will

1315
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 4: stay on your hip.

1316
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: You just stretched, stretched, stretch and then pass wide open?

1317
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: Do that with Al Horford? Yep, Yeah, I gotta ask man.

1318
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: We see Pat bav doing it now. You know what

1319
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You had your time in NBA. You know

1320
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. How was that transition going to playing

1321
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: overseas because a lot of people get a misconception like

1322
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: there's a lot of great hoopers everywhere in the world,

1323
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: but it's a totally different game, especially a lot of

1324
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: people seeing with the feeverball. How was that to go

1325
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: back to Justin's Like you said, you in the league,

1326
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,479
Speaker 1: you learn your role till you get your own company.

1327
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: Now you're back to playing basketball a little bit the

1328
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: way you wante to. How was that to go back?

1329
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: It's a little bit more refreshing that way.

1330
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 4: Nah, for real. Like people were saying stuff about Pat Bev,

1331
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 4: they don't understand he's trying to like in his career

1332
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 4: playing ball the way he grew up playing ball. He

1333
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 4: wanted to love it and like be himself. And when

1334
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 4: you go overseas, that's what you expect they expect you to.

1335
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 4: If you're from America, you American guard, and you go overseas,

1336
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 4: they expect you to kill.

1337
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: Listen, when I say he was on the same with

1338
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,919
Speaker 1: Indian Legendshaon Thoms. I said, oh yeah, it's all about

1339
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: putting buckets up out there, and I know what he all.

1340
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 4: That's that's all it was about, Bro. And it's like

1341
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 4: the game is different. So people be saying like it's

1342
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 4: harder to play fever. To me, it's not. It's just

1343
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 4: a matter of what your skill set is, like if

1344
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 4: you can play, if you got ones, good ones, and

1345
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 4: like you can shoot a little bit, you can play

1346
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 4: overseas because you're too fast for some of their guards

1347
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 4: to play one on one. Like, nobody one on one

1348
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 4: is gonna stand in front of me in Europe. It's

1349
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 4: it's slow like getting there. Difference is when you get

1350
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 4: to the realm, it ain't Dwight Howard back there blocking it.

1351
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 4: So you got a chance to actually do layups. You know,

1352
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 4: the play guards are block your shot, let alone the centers.

1353
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 4: So overseas, that's why they don't have no three seconds.

1354
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 4: They can just camp in the lane. There's some giants

1355
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 4: out there, Bro, like seven three casts, seven four cats

1356
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 4: out there. And you learn also how to like pass

1357
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,439
Speaker 4: on time on target, because if you don't pass on time,

1358
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 4: the whole rhythm of the offense that you're running out

1359
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 4: there will be bad because they not one on one player,

1360
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 4: so they depend on you passing to them on time.

1361
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 4: So I became like real precise. But I was used

1362
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 4: to it from playing Miami. So they was like, hey,

1363
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 4: you know what, you can score, but you can pass

1364
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 4: better than what I'm like, I just spent seven years

1365
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 4: passing to like the best players in the world, and

1366
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 4: if I threw a bad pass, it was like come

1367
01:00:58,280 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 4: out there.

1368
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 5: That helped.

1369
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 4: That makes you basketball again though, because like you love basketball,

1370
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 4: playing your role, but like sometimes you just want to

1371
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 4: be yourself. And when I my five years I played

1372
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 4: in Europe, I was able to go back to Cleveland

1373
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 4: state style, like coast to coast, no dribble, come down,

1374
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 4: no pass, puller good and get next. Yeah, for sure, for.

1375
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: Sure that's fire. Like you said, like the business of basketball,

1376
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: a lot of time gets in a way. We talk

1377
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: about so many people we know, like we talk about

1378
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: the Mike Bees Joe crowd. We know could score the

1379
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: best of them. But the business and basketball can kind

1380
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: of make you, you know what I'm saying, put yourself

1381
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: in the shell.

1382
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 2: But then a lot of people don't come out of that.

1383
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 4: So kudos.

1384
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that you're get your opportunity

1385
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: back to do what you do best and still want

1386
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: to hold because a lot of people shit you nine eight, nine,

1387
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: ten years of doing the same thing.

1388
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 2: You was like, I ain't even trying to go back

1389
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:48,479
Speaker 2: to that type shit.

1390
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 4: Nah, for sure. That's why a lot of the guards

1391
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 4: overseas that are really good, they don't come back to

1392
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 4: the league because they're like, Bro, I can't go back

1393
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 4: to city on the bench, Bro, no matter how much,

1394
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 4: even if I'm getting vat minimal like guys like Mike.

1395
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 2: James, Shane most buckets ever over there, you.

1396
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 4: Know, saying them to Shane Lark and Mike James out

1397
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 4: there getting busy out there. None Kendrick Nunney out there.

1398
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 4: He just want to win the championship. It was m

1399
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 4: VP like, it's a bunch of guys Ronde, Hollis, Jefferson.

1400
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 4: He oversees one of the coldest international players in the world.

1401
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 4: Bro can no like see Ron Day, but to come

1402
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 4: back to the NBA and then be relegated. Some dudes

1403
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 4: ain't with me to do that, and they paying you

1404
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 4: like they're paying you nice. Once you prove, once you

1405
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 4: go out there and your proven year man, they can

1406
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 4: pay you a livable ways where you like eating good

1407
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 4: and always say it's spend the same no matter where

1408
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 4: you get it from ehere, b And you get to

1409
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 4: live in places where people pay the vacation like the

1410
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 4: MafA Coast. I played in the Mafia Coast out the Italy.

1411
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 4: I played in Tel Aviv, I played in Malaga, south

1412
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 4: of Spain. I played in like the capitol of Montenegro,

1413
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 4: so like fake real vacation spots, like just like Puerto Rico.

1414
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 4: Like so it's like, you know, people be paying big

1415
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 4: money to go. I'm living out there for them.

1416
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 5: That's what I'm just about to ask you, the lifestyle adjustment.

1417
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 4: The food is so good out there, that's the best

1418
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 4: part about it. Damn because novatives time.

1419
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 5: I heard it.

1420
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 4: But the fruit be like real fruit. It ain't all

1421
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 4: that fake sugar and stuff. And the food out there

1422
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 4: is fresh, there's no the foods. And then then the

1423
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 4: views out there, nice views.

1424
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,919
Speaker 2: I heard that about that. The foods good.

1425
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie.

1426
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 5: I got.

1427
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 4: I had a real Italian pasta bro spaghetti from Italy,

1428
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 4: like an Italian man made it bro like the chef.

1429
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 4: I was like, and then a real pizza, not that

1430
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 4: greasy stuff that we'd be having, real Italian pizza. I

1431
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 4: was like, I see why guys don't want to come back.

1432
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 4: I see why guys getting married out there and stay out.

1433
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 2: There crazy being positive, my boy, Yeah, I'm here to

1434
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 2: kill you here.

1435
01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 5: You ain't no, yeah, ain't no, ain't no Italian last year.

1436
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 2: Perfection, Tony's gonna be in that.

1437
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 5: You could have loved it.

1438
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 4: You would have liked it, though, at least for one year.

1439
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 4: In one of two years, the only you would to like,

1440
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 4: it's a long season.

1441
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 1: I had a chance to go to Barcelona, but I

1442
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: just then for rom When I first retired, they wanted

1443
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: me to come out there.

1444
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 4: I just they always try to pluck the freshly retired.

1445
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 4: They always tried to I was.

1446
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 2: Like, Jacob pull was out there for Barcelona. Yeah, I

1447
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 2: don't know who's out there. I was like, man, hell now.

1448
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 4: Now you made you get enough damage to where you

1449
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 4: ain't I.

1450
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: Should have went through. It's been a cool experience, but

1451
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 1: I'm so like homebody. That's why I live in Indianapolis.

1452
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 4: Tell me that's why I live in. That's why I

1453
01:04:59,000 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 4: live in Dating.

1454
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm home.

1455
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 4: I quit going back out there.

1456
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 5: Bro.

1457
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 4: It would take a lot for me to go back

1458
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,479
Speaker 4: out there. Yeah, I find the leads to play because

1459
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 4: ten months is like that's damn, but they'd be out

1460
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 4: some cast be out there. Training can't start in August, Bro,

1461
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 4: they want.

1462
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 1: You way August through May. Like, how would I be

1463
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: able to podcast?

1464
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 4: Your team is good? June when I played for Tel Aviv,

1465
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 4: we won the Israeli Championship. I left at the end

1466
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 4: of August. I didn't get home till June twenty something, Bro,

1467
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 4: or June, like the last week of June. I was like,

1468
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 4: this is crazy. Happy you win the championship. This is crazy.

1469
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard. Tel Aviv nice though, the.

1470
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 4: Nicest place in the world. To be honest with you,

1471
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 4: it's like Miami, New York, and San Francisco all in one.

1472
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 5: Damn.

1473
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 2: I ain't mad to be out there for.

1474
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 4: They got the beach. They got the beach, they got

1475
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 4: the skyline like New York, and they got all the

1476
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 4: tech like house you know, San Francisco.

1477
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 5: Short vibes. Yeah, that's for a good time.

1478
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 2: The baby.

1479
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 5: You gotta give me some real chickens out there. If

1480
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 5: I'm in the NBA, though, yeah, you go to another

1481
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 5: you're gonna get some millionaire a year you don't get.

1482
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 1: No.

1483
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, like, Brad, you're really a homebody like that,

1484
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 5: Like I'm a home by the money into it though.

1485
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 4: The money was cool, but my mind wasn't there. Would

1486
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 4: about the money if your mind ain't in it, if

1487
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 4: you can't do the grind, right, that's what. That's why

1488
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 4: I stopped going out there as much, because it's like

1489
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 4: basketball is basketball. But I'm like, man, ten months is

1490
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 4: too long for one too, Like I want to be

1491
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 4: at home now, like I pay my dues. I'm a

1492
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 4: veteran now, like I should be to fly home and

1493
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 4: sleep in my bed sometimes.

1494
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,439
Speaker 2: So it's like now, my mind wasn't ready for nothing

1495
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 2: like that, bro, And.

1496
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 4: They talk crazy to you sometimes I would matter who

1497
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 4: no matter who you are, they yes, bro, every now

1498
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 4: and then like you're a foreigner, Bro, that's exactly right

1499
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 4: there at home. I would have left, would have been

1500
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 4: like crazy ally to take you the cavary two days

1501
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 4: to get out there. Yeah, they can't come cavalry pulling up.

1502
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 5: My niggas got passed Port, She laughed. She talking about

1503
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 5: I'd have been a count of thrashop you talking.

1504
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 2: About came.

1505
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 4: Mister Greeley.

1506
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 2: Really, that's what miss Well they got damn jumped off

1507
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 2: the ropes together.

1508
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 1: That's miss Greeley. Put the name put it back in

1509
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 1: his intros. Back man, you, Jeff Harty, Robert Cavary.

1510
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 5: Hey, Im fun.

1511
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 6: Surreal Cavry, the Top turn Man, Great Jelly Boys, and

1512
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 6: the fact.

1513
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 4: It's like that out there though.

1514
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 5: I mean respect hey man.

1515
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 2: Shout out to everybody overseas getting to it.

1516
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 1: Man, we appreciate it before we get up out of

1517
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 1: here at Norris, Man, we appreciate you sliding on us, man,

1518
01:07:58,640 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: telling people that can find you.

1519
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 4: At Big Up. You can find me on Instagram Norse

1520
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 4: Cold with the blue check mark, okay PG thirty on

1521
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 4: the score Cold on the Twitter TikTok Norse Cold thirty.

1522
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 1: My boy be out here catching my gills, ringing to

1523
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 1: get into it. Man, for sure, we appreciate you sliding.

1524
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 5: On us man.

1525
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, West, I've been trying to get over here. Now.

1526
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. We allowed to make it happen.

1527
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie. I'm still shitty but.

1528
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 1: Let that go.

1529
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 5: Before we got to here be tell the people that

1530
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 5: can't grasp some our chat hold on, Norris, What was

1531
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 5: that score again?

1532
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 4: Eighty three sixty nine State wait for us, Damn.

1533
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 5: Shop Club twenty dot com.

1534
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 2: Hey my co fucking me, shout that ship up. Up

1535
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:50,839
Speaker 2: the volume,