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Speaker 1: You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald Jr.

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Speaker 1: And Allen Tomanso on the Digital Soapbox Network material witness

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Speaker 1: on an aggregated battery, I was a hang gun and

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Speaker 1: um they believe this might be in retaliation to her testimony.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of The Gangster Chronicles. My name

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Speaker 1: is Alex Alonso. You meet may be aware of my platform,

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Speaker 1: street TV, previously known at street gangs dot com, where

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Speaker 1: I interview O g s, current former gang members, hip

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Speaker 1: hop artists, authors and other influencers. And I'm here with

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Speaker 1: my man, Reggie right Junior, James McDonald James McDonald and

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Speaker 1: this will be episode fourteen. And if you're new to

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Speaker 1: this podcast, please go back and start with episode one

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Speaker 1: because most of our episodes are interrelated and you won't

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Speaker 1: start hearing me till episode three. And if you're listening

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Speaker 1: you give us a review, you could also include questions

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Speaker 1: comments and we'll follow up on that on a future episode,

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Speaker 1: and make sure you go listen to last week's episode

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Speaker 1: because we actually had a guest. We rarely have guests,

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Speaker 1: but last week we had Chico Brown and I thought

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Speaker 1: it was an amazing, amazing show. What do you guys think? Oh, man, Man,

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Speaker 1: he did a great job. I was very impressed with

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Speaker 1: the things that he's doing. We have a lot of

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Speaker 1: guests on. I know it's something close to James heart

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Speaker 1: where he always said how he wanted to do stuff

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Speaker 1: with helping the young kids and get some training and

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Speaker 1: stuff like that. And even though James is on the

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Speaker 1: automobile side of things, it's good to see that brother

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Speaker 1: was on the you know, on the redevelopment of homes

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Speaker 1: and businesses and buildings. He's actually living my dream right now.

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Speaker 1: He's actually living my dream of the things that I

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Speaker 1: want to do because you have relationship, though, Man, with

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Speaker 1: that relationship on things you have to do with make

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Speaker 1: phone calls and I mean, you know, with with with

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Speaker 1: nigger like you to be involved, you know, he got

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Speaker 1: little homie from your neighborhood. A matter of fact, your

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Speaker 1: little younger brother that he's been trying to help do it.

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Speaker 1: But if somebody like you, he would love to have

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Speaker 1: you with that. And you know, those are those are

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Speaker 1: things that like I said, my whole concept is the

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Speaker 1: younger people fifty, come on, you old enough to help

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Speaker 1: yourself and know where you're going. You should have some

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Speaker 1: type of skill. But I'm saying, get with the youngsters.

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Speaker 1: Get the youngsters in these programs and and and put

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Speaker 1: put your money showing them how to do drywall and

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Speaker 1: roofing and plumbing and all of this. These little kids, man,

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Speaker 1: they guarantee you a lot of them would stop doing

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Speaker 1: what they're doing because you save one is worth it.

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Speaker 1: They because if you save one is worth it exactly.

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Speaker 1: But but you would say more, but the goal is one.

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Speaker 1: But what what what What a lot of people don't

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Speaker 1: understand is you've got a lot of youngctions out there

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Speaker 1: today because money and you can't get money like you

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Speaker 1: the citiest things to get money or trying to trying

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Speaker 1: get these kids out here and they can get a check.

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Speaker 1: Are getting making a hundred dollars a day? If you

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Speaker 1: for that program THEO and I wish it happened. Hey, um,

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Speaker 1: remind everybody to sign up for the Patreon that's attached

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Speaker 1: to the bottom of the link of the show, UM,

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Speaker 1: you know, to help because, like I said on out,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna start downloading stuff on the Patreon unfor unseen

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Speaker 1: footage mainly of James uh family and and and Bunchtery's

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Speaker 1: up for that Patriot. I don't know what the fee is.

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Speaker 1: unseen stuff. It's gonna be worth it, and it's going

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Speaker 1: So what's gonna happen is, um, I'm looking at hand dog.

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Speaker 1: I gotta callege sister and see if they're But but

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Speaker 1: what where I met with it is taking care of

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Speaker 1: me this. I think we should do it in segments,

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Speaker 1: but I mean when at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want people say, well,

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Speaker 1: then after that, uh, we just wanted to start putting

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Speaker 1: because I hear cheap feed people with every Saturday Saturday mornings. Okay,

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Speaker 1: a check to great idea, great idea and then also, uh,

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Speaker 1: this is something different. Um. James also that T shirts

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Speaker 1: we we hit him up on a messenger, hit us

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Speaker 1: All right. Now, I did say two weeks ago we

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Speaker 1: because of you. You you did the show a couple

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Speaker 1: We're not even calling him big cast no more. I'm

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Speaker 1: walking with you for about twenty years, but that is

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Speaker 1: of watchers and just make up stories. I'm not from

428
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: I wasn't from that, I wasn't raised that way. So

429
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 1: it's a little bit perplexing to me that a dude

430
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: will just get up there and really make up a story.

431
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 1: I really believe that we've got some psychological issues, and

432
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 1: I really believe he did a video about a week

433
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: or two ago where he was pretty much taunting or

434
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: are telling his listeners. Are his viewers stop sending me

435
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: stuff about this? Uh? If you posted to me, my friend,

436
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: I don't need to hear about it. Stop sending me this.

437
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: Any negative comments that comes on my my comments section,

438
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: I'm going to delete when a person is that, for

439
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: lack of a better word, vain or are insecure, Um,

440
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: there's something going on. I kind of took that as

441
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: you know, he's saying, I ain't worried about nothing. I

442
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: ain't stretching, I ain't tripping. I'm gonna go to sleep

443
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: from a wake up. You can put anything, Yeah, you

444
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: can put anything in the comment section. Invest the case

445
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 1: when I got a problem with something, when I don't

446
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: like negativity or or or bad things saying I'm deleting it.

447
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you don't do this, and I'm gonna

448
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 1: tell you I'm delete who the least comments comments I

449
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: know on my platform. There's no way I can do

450
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: it because the comments come in and something ye're coming

451
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: in masses. I mean he's reading every comments, which I

452
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: won't be honest, I said and read a lot of

453
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 1: comments and respond because I try to do it to

454
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: respond to people that try to have open relationship, to

455
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: try to show I'm just as just as accessible as

456
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: you are if you're taking enough time to ask me

457
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: a decent question. I want to try to take a

458
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: time to respond to you. That's just the type of

459
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: person I'll try to be. I'm glad that situation over.

460
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 1: Who uh, and I hope it don't call junior problems

461
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: with your your your your club you man. Let me

462
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 1: tell you something. Man, that's what I hate that, not

463
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: them type of comments. I ain't worried about the chosen feeling,

464
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,719
Speaker 1: nothing else. And and chosen you know me and then

465
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: everybody in Las Vegas. So if a mothercker want to

466
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: credit check that, actually, who was who in Las Vegas?

467
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: I was the president of Chosen Few for six years

468
00:26:55,119 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 1: and and Vegas was was was was good? Go to

469
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: Vegas now And on the bike said the next them,

470
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: what is the bike? Said like now the post when

471
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: Big J was there. And they'll tell you, oh, it's

472
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: totally different. It's totally different. I'm wrong, structure. You know

473
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know, we had guys that that

474
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: was on the bike said talking about man off to

475
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: go get the guns and we finished shooting. I don't know,

476
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: you're not you're gonna come in my clubhouse. You're gonna

477
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: put your gun in your in your pocket, give it

478
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: to him and you're gonna come in there, which one

479
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: of these dues you want to fight? Who you going

480
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: my club? And then they had to fight. And when

481
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: coming on my block with no offistles shooting it up,

482
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: we weren't doing that, you know. It was that. I

483
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: remember my father as a law enforcement officer. It was

484
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: something he This was like sometime in the eighties he

485
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: got in the biggest trouble because he was a gang

486
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 1: offer and then with somebody from elm Lane and the

487
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: Marvel loothers that had had a problem with each other,

488
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,719
Speaker 1: and he took had everybody in around the thing and

489
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: he had let him have a fight to fight it out.

490
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,239
Speaker 1: And when the supervisors came and was like, how can

491
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: you do this? Why you did this? He said, because

492
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: if I didn't need niggles to be shooting at each

493
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: other each other, like killing each other. He said, Now

494
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: they're back cool, they're back friends, and and they worked

495
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: it out like man, well I'm officially done on this topic.

496
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys have done it. I

497
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 1: call it like he's right now. I'm looking at him

498
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 1: like a gopher. Gopher stay under underground. They standing down.

499
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: Sometimes they pop their head up, so if he pop

500
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: his head up, I'm gonna chop it off. You know.

501
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: I was actually surprised that the brothers said he contacted

502
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: Big Hurt to say, hey, you need to check this

503
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: dude out, and Big Hurt actually said, get yeah, Reggie

504
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: is a cricket cop. Anyways, I trust I'm paraphrasing, I

505
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: trust the big cast. I don't trust he didn't need

506
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: to work crooked, but he he said that. You know,

507
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: I don't trust the police, his law enforcement at law enforcement.

508
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: I don't trust the police. And I actually know I

509
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: know Big Hurt. I actually interviewed him on Street TV.

510
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: Um he seemed like a good brother. He's got a

511
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: very said that a lot of people. And that's when

512
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: the brother was like, hey, bro, you you put in

513
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: the comment section. You've been telling people that he seems

514
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: like a cool dude. And now he was like, hey,

515
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: he's not, because I've been trying to tell him about this,

516
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: and he was just pretty much like, well, he's only

517
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: judging him based on he wouldn't listen to him about

518
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: big Cats. Other than that, you know, I don't think

519
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: there's nothing negative you could say about Big Hurt other

520
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: than he robbed the bank. Several years ago and he

521
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: paid his debt for that. And that's what this channel

522
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: is all about. Life after the Penitentiary. And UM go

523
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: check out Street TV if you want to hear an

524
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: incredible story about a guy that robbed the bank. He

525
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: actually robbed the bank. His co defendant was the homeless

526
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: guy named Africa that got killed by the l A. P.

527
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: D On skid Row a couple of years ago. He

528
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: was in his tan and the cops surrounded a tenant

529
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: told to get out, and he started swinging at the

530
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: cops and they tried to swarm and one cop pulled

531
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: the gun out and killed him. But like twelve thirteen

532
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: years before, that homeless dude that they called Africa was

533
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: Big Herk's co defendant in that bank robbery case that

534
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: landed him about ten years in the federal penitentiary. All right,

535
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: so the Gangster Chronicles is officially done on that topic, hopefully.

536
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: UM I don't think anything. Yeah, we're done with that. Uh,

537
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: we'll leave that to Reggie to talk about that on

538
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: Bomb first. If anything else new the only one to

539
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: keep bringing it up. I had to. I had to

540
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: bring it up because that was an interesting interview you

541
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: did with the brother. Uh all right, so we got

542
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,239
Speaker 1: a question here for you, James. It says, did you

543
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: actually say Sugar was knocked out by a member of

544
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: Second to None? I said that, but people missed understood.

545
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: Remember from Second to Up motorcycle club, not the rep group,

546
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: but from the motorcycle club, and um, it ain't really

547
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: much shame. Well, everybody know about that, and let's let's

548
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: clear that up because people start thinking he's talking about

549
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: the guy that sucker punched him from the behind, Greg

550
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: the barber, and so we're talking about y'all. So y'all

551
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: know about it, and y'all don't saw it. That's the

552
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: one that happened in Hollywood. Correct, Okay, So Greg the

553
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: Barber was Greg the barber was part of a Second

554
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: to None motorcycles And I didn't think that was the

555
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: sucker punch from behind? Was it? Yeah? From behind? From behind?

556
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: We don't have. All we have is photos of Sugar

557
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: laid out. All you have a big old knot bag

558
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: is here from behind. I thought he was bleeding from

559
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: the front. I saw. I was amazed by ship because

560
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: this nigga was still walking around acting tough a day

561
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: or two later. If if I had a big old

562
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: knot stitches in my head. I would have been laid

563
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: up at home high and didn't tell that ship. But

564
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: that was out walking around the next day like that.

565
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with battle scars. You get him every day

566
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: now when you're the big, bad bad because getting I

567
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: was amazing, Like I said, I was amazed. Now was

568
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: there any pushback from the rap group? Second to none?

569
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: Did you hear the story because everybody pretty much knew

570
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: who it was, you know they the rap group was.

571
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: I don't even think in the picture. I only think

572
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: KK and the I'm still rapping and then plus KKA

573
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: probably about a hundred and sixty pounds. And what was

574
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: the whole issue between the barber and Sugar that night?

575
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: If you know Red, I don't, Okay, I don't, because

576
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: I remember the barber giving an interview. The barber was

577
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: out there, he was loving it. He get well with

578
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: the argument. They argued, should changes back with whatever? I mean?

579
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: You got hit on the back now now the way

580
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: I hear it, and I know because I was hanging

581
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: with Check a little bit during that time. She was Norton.

582
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,239
Speaker 1: N't mean to say that, but anyway, okay, but he

583
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: was and he was drinking because he had just went

584
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: through a uh uh, the bankruptcy, and so he was

585
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: out there and he was this Olave character. He was

586
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: Ola Shill character. And and he was high and you

587
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: know what, and and and and people might say like,

588
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: damn James said that, but I'm gonna say that you

589
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: don't want to listen. Should turned into something else because

590
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: of everybody else, and and and and and that was

591
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: just Demise fitting in and doing all this different ship

592
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: that took you out. You You was never in the drugs.

593
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: You was never drinking. I mean I can sit here

594
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: and beyond myself, I can feel and and and he'd

595
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: be walking around here. So was all out of those

596
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: in the right state of mind at all times. He've

597
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: always stayed that way. But when you get around the

598
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 1: shorting crowd and everybody just lost his company. Man, he

599
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: was dealing with fighting that bankruptcy. No, but that came

600
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: slowly but surely. The drugs and alcohol didn't just happen

601
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: one day. It started coming and he started doing it

602
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: slowly but shorter. And then I always blamed it on

603
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: that because I guess that's how I wanted to justify

604
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: that lose your company. Go kill somebody and say that.

605
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I like that, but shoot yourself in the

606
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 1: head and be done with it. But I'm telling you everything,

607
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: And do I say that's I blamed the industry, I

608
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 1: blamed the rappers, I blamed the homies. I blamed somebody,

609
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: I mean everybody because of himself. He didn't show his

610
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: ass up the court and deal with it. He pissed

611
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: that white man off. And that's what you can't do,

612
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: is piss off a federal judge. It hurted me when

613
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 1: I saw that fucking uh uh who the judgment. No,

614
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: not the show they had slash interview that that's six

615
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: years later, okay, but it hurted me to see him

616
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: unable to be archickular it like he is. It hurted

617
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: me to see Shoe just looking like drive a boxer

618
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: lost the fight. This is totally out of character for

619
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: this dude. Man. I damnly cried watching Sugar when they

620
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: turned his motherfuck off and he opened the door up.

621
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: And I want to think it was because he was

622
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: so emotional because he just drove down the street and

623
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: what a tupac got killed. Nigga was under the influence,

624
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm that's what I'm saying. You know,

625
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: most people don't go no what they want to say, Oh,

626
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. He was little, he's so it was

627
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: so sad that he uh drive down the street and

628
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: they're talking about this and he they brought up this emotion.

629
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: He threw up nigga was if anybody watched it, and

630
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: anybody just they didn't, They didn't James and just just

631
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: just see shoot killing himself. I know him, but I

632
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't hanging around him like we was first. If I

633
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: show that, man, it would have been only cracking. This

634
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: guy Rick who's like he's handling his his girlfriend toys,

635
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: brother in law. I say, man, y'all need y'all ass

636
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: kick for allowing that to be put in that show.

637
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: I said, I know how the white folks sold it

638
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: to you. He's like, he's so emotional and he and

639
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 1: he did this an twine food Qua sold it to

640
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: him like it's gonna be great. This is show that

641
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: he cared about pocket Stell. He shouldn't have been having

642
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: drinks talking and and that should have never that should

643
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: have never came out, should have never came out. It

644
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: was sad. It was sad. And I'm I'm just saying

645
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: you first did it yourself. We saw it. No, he

646
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: did it to himself, but he had help. And I

647
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: think just like with Tupac, I mean that could that

648
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: situation could have been stopped. To me, this is my

649
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: personal opinion, motherfucking you the artists, set your ass down,

650
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: all you my motherfucker's and get them foods and it

651
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: and it would have went down that way if he

652
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: would have took off like a like a bullet out

653
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: of a gun. But that's what I'm saying. You have

654
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: to have control on on your artists. You gotta have

655
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: a tight leash on your artists. You gotta let them

656
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 1: understand that you're not You're not to hear the gang bang.

657
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: You're here to make money. And that's the us thing,

658
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: not not for me, but for us. So so they

659
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 1: had to know the right and ronging in there, and

660
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: and there's a kid he should have bought. They pissed

661
00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: up and and and then what they had to do.

662
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: That's why you use the mob. That's what the reason,

663
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: that's why the mob was there, Why they're getting the

664
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: paycheck to protect, to protect, you know what I'm saying

665
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: to them from himself. Yeah, to protect the artists, protect

666
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: them from himself. Different. Yea. It's a difference between a

667
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 1: standoff and in your series and not saying get back,

668
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: stand back versus somebody just see something. I don't believe

669
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: that ch because look through the whole damn if you

670
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 1: watch the video, not even watching the video, you got

671
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 1: only catching here sheep. One guy they see a Lando

672
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: at Landa wasn't smart enough to do like everybody else

673
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: just is here. It looked like he was standing there

674
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: deliberately waiting. He was sitting there talking to he was

675
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: he was standing there. Everybody was just standing there. It

676
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: was a watch thing. That's what you did at the

677
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: MGM fight though night at the police around him, and

678
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: I don't care if you go back. It was just

679
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: the security, please, y'all just don't know all this conspiracy

680
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: out here, y'all talking police and standing there and all

681
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: of that. This is what the white old white man

682
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: want to push out. That's happening that y'all up here

683
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: pretty much saying I'm security. Okay, let's say just go back.

684
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: The security at the MGM standing around this guy. This

685
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: guy is telling them something going on. Something be happening here.

686
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 1: You see that, Yeah, you can see that all that

687
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: get the video that looking at this what I thought,

688
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: He's just standing there against the wall and the security

689
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: and the security is around him. Come on, put your

690
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: mind in it. Okay, but if not, But anyway, Tupac

691
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: should have been out of there already. We're going to

692
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: six six too. But we ain't gonna rekindle. No, no

693
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: which color. But I mean, man, they don't take a

694
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: rocket shire and you understand that. What are you saying?

695
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: My point where a shut up? That Orlando was placed there?

696
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: Why would I know? I'm not saying it's a set up.

697
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is Atlando seeing the homies Atlando say well,

698
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: now where my niggas go. That's why that's the way

699
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 1: I saw. So you say, oh, this ain't gonna happened

700
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: like that. He man, these guys walking around here, man,

701
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: and I know what they wanted. What else? Lando ran

702
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: to the security. No, I'm saying he walked right into him. Rant.

703
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: I don't say he ran, but he's saying, man, there's

704
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: something about to happen. Why I always wondered why was

705
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: Orlando standing alone? Let me finish, standing alone? Where is

706
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: the homies that where was Kiefee? Where was all these

707
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 1: other people? Something? And he's just there by himself, standing

708
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: there in the bobby looking looking a little stressed. You know,

709
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: he ain't smiling, there's nothing happy going on. It's like

710
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: he's got something on his mind. Let me ask you

711
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: this question. So you believe he was placed there. I

712
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: don't believe it was, but I believe that he knew

713
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: something was about to go down. As James Man, if

714
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: you walk in any and I want you to just

715
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 1: to be on a comment, y'all want to ask the question.

716
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: If I'm wrong, y'all tell me I'm wrong. Anybody that's

717
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: that's in they surroundings and pay attention to their surroundings.

718
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: I just seen these cats. I just had a big win.

719
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: I shot that cat brother. I know these foods gonna

720
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: get at me. They see me, and it's nine of them.

721
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: So I know, in Sam, Bam, I can't go nowhere

722
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: because they did. Now I don't know if they're coming

723
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: from right or left, so to do. He's standing there

724
00:41:54,600 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: look at Orlando face like like he like and like bam.

725
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: He didn't know which way it was going to come.

726
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: And then Tupac chakeof on, yeah, and then everybody else chakeofoning.

727
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: How can that be that that that's no way, that's

728
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: not a strip that should happen. Alright, Well, let's wrap

729
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: up this Greg the Barber incident. I can't believe that

730
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: happened in two thousand and eight. That was eleven years ago.

731
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: And did anything ever happen to him after that? I

732
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: thought he had got choked out a couple of years

733
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: later in another club, Greg the Barber, That's what I'm saying,

734
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: that anything to the barber? Yeah, And then there was

735
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: a couple of wasn't there indent when he was in

736
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: a motorcycle Yeah, he was at a motorcycle event and

737
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: they got into a shooting with somebody some that died. Yeah,

738
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: I think it was his friend. His friend died Checking

739
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,479
Speaker 1: the Nut. That's the club he was riding, was Checking

740
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: the Nut. There was an incident where someone got shot

741
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: and killed his boy, and he was supposed to have

742
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 1: ran and got the gun. Ye. Something. I vaguely remember

743
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: the story, and I always wondered if they had to

744
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:16,479
Speaker 1: do with sugar internal one of those picnics or something

745
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: like that. All right, so let's go to another question here. Uh.

746
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: I don't know why people keep asking this, but is

747
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: it true that hend Dog designed the death Row logo?

748
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: Hand Dog designed the logo? Yes, he did. That was

749
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: one of the reasons for Sugar putting him on Death Row.

750
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: It's because he was challenging like that, and he did

751
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,479
Speaker 1: it so fast. It was like damn, and SI said,

752
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna roll with that. Sugar and him had their

753
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: own understanding. Hand Dog was was, man, I'm talking about drawing.

754
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: I'm had to let you see some of the stuff

755
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: he drew. Um, he drew a picture of my niece

756
00:43:55,200 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 1: and her brother and his dead on dead on. Yeah,

757
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: he was very challenged. He also did uh. Later in life,

758
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: before you know, before you die, he was doing tattoos. Yeah,

759
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: also tattoo artists. A lot of people don't know. And

760
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 1: what year was the logo creator? Like at the very

761
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: beginning the death logos, that's the first logo and kept

762
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: him to it actually had but it was like booty, Yeah,

763
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: it didn't even they came up with I don't know

764
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: if you'll noticed, like an inmmate it got the biscuit song. Yeah,

765
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: the custom. It was totally like, no, that ain't gonna

766
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: work and then sugar is death Row. So hand do

767
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: came with I think four or five different things, and

768
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: Juel trying to take the credit for the make coming

769
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: up with the name death Ro. Why did she do that?

770
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. She said she the one came up

771
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: with her name. Um but um as you say, they

772
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: used to be called a future Shot or you say

773
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: for Hill Record, but they was from front Hill Records.

774
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: I think future shop. Future Shop was was what he

775
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: was trying to do. That's what he was going to

776
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: call it. But Tom Klein was he was the money

777
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: man at the time, Tom Thomas Klein, and he named

778
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: it fern Hill Records. And I mean they didn't have

779
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: too many Hartists or whatever. They had people coming from Texas.

780
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: They had people coming from all over and then they

781
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: had chocolate was there but it really didn't. Then he

782
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: had Anxotic Cars and he had the insurance company. They was.

783
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: They was into multiple things then. So fern Hill Record

784
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: was sure, baby. You know, he was trying to get

785
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: off the ground. And then he got the DLC and

786
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: from DLC the talking and all of this, and everybody

787
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: was supposed to pitch in this and that to help

788
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: sugar launch debt bro. That's that's how they start. Most

789
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: people don't know it was. It was really four partners

790
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: in death row Sure and DRE end up pushing them out,

791
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: But it was really supposed to be DLC, Dick, Griffy

792
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: should Dre. Uh. They end up getting a lawsuit, you know,

793
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: they end up pushing did Griffy and DLC out. They

794
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: sued him and I end up paying them off. Uh.

795
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: In like ninety seven they got a judgment in was much.

796
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: DNC got like a hundred fifty two hundred and somethingousand,

797
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: two millions. Wow, Yeah he got cheated. Yeah, why the

798
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 1: electric chair for the logo win? Well, that's how you die. Definitely.

799
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: But in California, don't you think then back then the

800
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: gas chamber and I don't think did they used to

801
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 1: use the electrey in California. Yeah. Let me had Gurney

802
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: And when hand Dog came up with that, he was

803
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: thinking straight penitentry and that's what his mindset was. You

804
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: look at the clothing. Hand Dog had pictures of dragons,

805
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: heads coming out of the dragons. Hand Dog was like

806
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: just like really talented dog and and he would draw anything.

807
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: And some of the cats in the penitentry was man

808
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 1: hand dog drawing the homie, this dude chasing this dude

809
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: with a knife. And I mean he did a lot

810
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: of He did ship in the county jail, drew some ship.

811
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, he was he was real good hand. Dog

812
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: used to tell me, he's the first person that told

813
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 1: me I don't heard about a sense. It always amazed

814
00:47:55,280 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: me when niggas had knights that keeps keaston. Never knew that.

815
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 1: I never knew that. And he said, Rich, I used

816
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: to be on the yard with the ninth is long

817
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: up my ass. Now did you change the logo when

818
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: you change the name to the row. Yeah, we try

819
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: to do it on the new way the gurney, but

820
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 1: the dude lay it out. He used seeing that chain

821
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: when we are in that chain. No, that didn't last

822
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: long at all. But we had people on the gurney.

823
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: We're trying to well, that's actually a dental chair. They

824
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: used a dental chair for to do the lethal injection

825
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: on that chair. But I'll talk about when we changed

826
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: it to the gurney for the lethal lethal injection. It

827
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 1: was like a board or something. It's like a board.

828
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be similar to the chair you sit

829
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 1: in when you go to the dentist, but they strap

830
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: you in it. Yeah and late but it was laid down. Yeah,

831
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: it lays flat. I ain't never laid down at the

832
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: dentist now I've been. You gotta be upside down sometimes

833
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 1: and chick. Yeah, and I want I want to shay

834
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: after the holidays and all of this other ship and

835
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: things go by. I want to try to get JP

836
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: up here. I think JP can explain have Ron better

837
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: than anybody. And we definitely want to get because we

838
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: want to do something when you win the patriar about

839
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 1: that as well. Yeah, show and and you're talking about

840
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: a third cadem that went from from doing god know

841
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 1: what everything have Rod been to? I mean JP been

842
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: to the penitentiary so many times, and it took little Chris,

843
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: Haron's son to keep JP out of jail. He started

844
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: taking care of little Chris on a daily. I mean

845
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: little Chris is where you see JP. You see Chris

846
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 1: Chris would have been would have been I think twenty now,

847
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: but uh he got shot and uh broke JP up.

848
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: I want him. I think it'd be better for him

849
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: to come up. A picture online of one of heron daughters. Yeah,

850
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: I just looked it up. The electric chair was never

851
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: used in California. They had four methods of execution. The

852
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: first one was firing squad, then they used hanging, and

853
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: then they went to the gas chamber, and now it's

854
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: lethal injection. Florida actually still uses electric chair. I think

855
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: there's only like maybe two states, two or three states

856
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: that actually use the electric chair. You guys used to

857
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: get a lot of flak. First person ever said something

858
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: about that. I'm the first person about the electored chair

859
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: not being legal in California, the first time I've ever

860
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: heard that. I'll definitely double check that, but I'm not

861
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: saying you you're inaccurate. That's the first time anybody ever

862
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: questioned firing squad is actually used. Gonna watch Green Green,

863
00:50:53,960 --> 00:51:00,919
Speaker 1: what the well? What state they cal I'm just saying,

864
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: this is what we think of electric to you talk

865
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 1: about the defenalty, Well, the we do about the gas chamber,

866
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: but the grass cham didn't last that long. But they

867
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: still have the chamber, but they do. They put you

868
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: in there on the dental chair in the chamber. All right, Um,

869
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: last thing here, we kind of talked about Mexican black

870
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: relations before but a guy named Topot I wanted to

871
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: know more about the Black Mexican relations growing up in Compton.

872
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: We all had love for each other as kids, but

873
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: once getting older, hatred and disgust came in. And that's

874
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: pretty much a lot of communities throughout countries. Drug games

875
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: and the penitentiaries politics, and that's where it came from.

876
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: You know, when the eighties yit everybody attitude change. You know,

877
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 1: everybody was more into making their money and doing anything

878
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: and and kicking it with their old homies and whatever. Um.

879
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: It didn't take much to spark a situation because you

880
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: had Blacks Mexicans and everybody using the drug and and

881
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: didn't come and pay me, so I gotta go over

882
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: there and this and that. So it calls it calls

883
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: a lot of uh bs when it came to in

884
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: the neighborhood, and it hadn't been the same sense and

885
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: and and the main reason is because after the people

886
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: like Chico and Freeway Rick and Toronald Reagan, Regina U

887
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: left the cities, who did you have to go through

888
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: now the people that was walking to ship across the border. Yeah,

889
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: because the drugs aren't being flown in anymore. And they're

890
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: not being produced over here. They have been to produced

891
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: over you know, well coming through Mexico and they were

892
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: walking it over and they were to connects. But even

893
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: the South American cocaine, it's easier to bring it through Mexico.

894
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: That's that's why I changed it too. It was been

895
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: shipped and so that took all the brothers out of

896
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: aout and maybe you had to deal with them, and

897
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 1: now they got the juice. It's crazy, you know. And

898
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: because of our neighbors to the south, they have and

899
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: so um, yeah, hey y'all make sure you uh and

900
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to end it end it or anything

901
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: like that, but glad that we'll be on next week. Uh.

902
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: He definitely is confirmed. So if y'all got any good

903
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: questions about lad and what he's going on, any questions

904
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: about what he did and what he uh you know,

905
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: what's going on on this platform, Um, make sure y'all

906
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: send the uh the questions over to uh to the

907
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: Gates the Chronicle Instagram because Alex he he would definitely

908
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: be on it. Well, I don't know if I want

909
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: to be. I mean, I got no problem with the dude.

910
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 1: A lot of people kind of hate on Flat. You know,

911
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: I've seen it's an interesting interview about a couple of

912
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,959
Speaker 1: days ago. I mean a couple of about a week ago,

913
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: where a guy is starting to question him about while

914
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: he'd be setting people up and all of that. So

915
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: I think that would be a good time. I think

916
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: he's a little aggressive and some of the questions that

917
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,919
Speaker 1: he asks, Uh, there's a lot of things I would

918
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 1: personally edit out of an interview that he keeps in there.

919
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: But you're dealing with a different type of people, don't. Well, no,

920
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: he's dealing with some of this. There's some of the

921
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: same people that that have been on my platform that

922
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: are on his platform. We got a lot of similar

923
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: interview guests, but he's more a more street hardcore cut

924
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: from a different He's got a lot of those guys.

925
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: He had very few. He's interviewed Big You, He's been

926
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 1: on my channel. He's interviewed the Cambodian rapper from Long Beach,

927
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: Stupid Young, He's been on my channel. He's interviewed Freeway,

928
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: Ricky Ross, He's been on my channel. There was a

929
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 1: different you know, totally when when you're totally different from him,

930
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: I agree, really totally different from him when I did

931
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: it by interview with black and and he was real

932
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: cool with me. We didn't have a come on, don't

933
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: ask me that type of ship. Now. I said, everybody

934
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: got a freedom of speech. You got the right to

935
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: say what you are not gonna say. If if you

936
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 1: don't have enough mother sense to see that you have

937
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: been leading. He's leading you into saying or answering the

938
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: question that he about to address pop up on you,

939
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 1: then you don't need to be doing it. You don't

940
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: need to be doing it. But then, I truly believe

941
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: everybody got a right to their own opinion. But I mean,

942
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: he doing a job just like we're doing and everybody

943
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: ain't gonna agree with we're doing them this ship. We say,

944
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So that's why we we

945
00:55:56,280 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: want you to come in and say your comments and

946
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,959
Speaker 1: put it out there how you should. But I think,

947
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: I think dude is a lot of people was not

948
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: giving him a fair one. He only do what he

949
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: do because people allow him to do it. I'm surprised

950
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: how many people embrace him because he's always getting all

951
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: this hate comments as being a culture voter. You know

952
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,439
Speaker 1: he's not. He's not black, he's not of color. But

953
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: he's got a huge platform and people love going on

954
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: his channel, you know. And I think it's mostly for

955
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 1: the exposure, yeah, the viewership. And plus, he won't interview

956
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: you unless he knows for a fact that you're gonna

957
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: bring in numbers, meaning lots of views. Like for example,

958
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: I interviewed the Cambodian rapper from Long Beach, stupid young,

959
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: before anyone knew who he was, back in two thousand thirteen.

960
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: Last year he started making a name for himself, he

961
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: started buzzing, and now Vlad wants to interview the dude. Now,

962
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: Lad would never interview a guy who's up and coming.

963
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: You gotta be doing number in order to get on

964
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 1: his platform out there like that. I wouldn't doing videos

965
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: and all of this other ship and people listening to me.

966
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: When I talked Joint, he asked me, would I be

967
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 1: ready to talk Joint? I said, yeah, man, ready, say

968
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: you cool? I'm cool. And And but he knew you

969
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: were gonna bring numbers because of the topic and the

970
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: subject matter and who you are. And you didn't have

971
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: that big interview with Yeah, and that interview right there,

972
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: and that's another thing. He does he looks at your

973
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 1: interviews to see how successfully were. In fact, I just

974
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: heard him say he watched them Michael Franziz interview that

975
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: some other person had done on their platform, and he

976
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: was like, Wow, that guy got a lot of numbers.

977
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: I want him on my show, and he got Michael Frandzi.

978
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: They're telling you, but isn't isn't that smart though? That

979
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: that just means he's solely looking at this as a

980
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: business and he doesn't have passion for the art of it.

981
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: Like when I interview people from the neighborhoods, I'm not

982
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: looking at he's gonna bring me a hundred thousand views.

983
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, this guy got a story to tell, I'm

984
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: gonna tell it. And half the time it's only gonna

985
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: get ten, fifteen, maybe twenty thousand views, which is not

986
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: what Vlad would do. You know he wants a hundred

987
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: thousand or more because I left. When you interview that

988
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: do from Fruittown, they're talking about he died and came

989
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 1: back like what they see. I did not know what

990
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: to expect from that interview, what you're talking about Stoner

991
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: from Fruittown party. But did it turn out wasn't a dream.

992
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: I think what happens when you're in a near death situation,

993
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: you get a dopamine rush to your brain and it

994
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: makes you go through all these hallucinations. And I think

995
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,959
Speaker 1: it's also a way to cope with death when death

996
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: is about to happen, so you don't go through a

997
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: lot of physical pain. But some guys end up surviving,

998
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: and they got these incredible after death stories to tell

999
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: you get this this just this this thing. You Yeah,

1000
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 1: but when you hear when you shot, it's like everything

1001
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: just go bam and like it just flipped over and

1002
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: then you come back, you see. I mean they can

1003
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: explain it a different way. Be plause, he went into

1004
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: a coma, but that's where you shot that. He got

1005
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: shot in the neck, alright, so when he but when

1006
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: you're going to coma, you don't remember, you just out,

1007
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: you out. He really believes he woke up. He woke

1008
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: up a couple of weeks later in the hospital. Well,

1009
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: I mean even in the coma, they said they hear

1010
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: the people talking to you here and which come. I mean,

1011
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: getting shot is a the homies taking into us, and

1012
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: a chestis in what you're gonna do you're gonna go

1013
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: back and get this thing said that, that interview actually

1014
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: came out pretty good. And you see, I didn't know

1015
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: what to expect when I interviewed Stoner from Fruittown, Paru.

1016
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: And that's the thing that on my channel that I like,

1017
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: It's that I'm not looking for the celebrity or the

1018
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna bring in a hundred thousands because you

1019
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: think you think duck duck Dave. Yeah, I mean, I

1020
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: would love you a couple of emojis. But you know

1021
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: that's that's the difference between me and a lot of

1022
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: other platforms that I'm not doing it for views, because

1023
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: I'm doing it because I'm passionate about this topic. And

1024
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. If you look a lot of

1025
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: my videos, some of them only get you know, maybe

1026
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: ten thousand views, and I already know going in you

1027
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: know this, this video is not gonna be super popular.

1028
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: Once again, that separates you from those that are greedy.

1029
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: That separate you from those that don't hold passion in

1030
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: their hearts for their craft. Yeah, you're different. You're different,

1031
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: but by being different than me, and you're not the

1032
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: one that is truly different. And and that that has

1033
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: greed in his heart, and I don't see these nothing.

1034
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: If black said, I wouldn't give a fire interview every

1035
01:00:55,800 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: black mother I can. If I can get viewed, everybody's

1036
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 1: gonna still go join. Come on, it's just the way.

1037
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: And I guarantee you he's gonna ask you to come

1038
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: back on the show because most of your videos, if

1039
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: not all of them, did very well. I haven't told

1040
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: you James film last week what they might be airing

1041
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: real soon. So you did too flad interviews, Oh my good. Yeah, alright,

1042
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: I'm upset, but we're gonna wrap that. We're gonna wrap

1043
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: this butt to know what hell Gangster Chronicles and help

1044
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: your thing when I'm just kidding, just kidding, because I've

1045
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: been won to interview James have different audience. Well, I'm

1046
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: gonna put it out of here because they you know

1047
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: over there, who's that. Don't even say it. Don't even

1048
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: say it. Don't even say it, because we're not trying

1049
01:01:56,120 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: to promote any other platforms except Gangster Chronicles, First Street,

1050
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,439
Speaker 1: gang Street TV and whatever and James shirts and whatever

1051
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: James got going on. But all right, we're gonna wrap

1052
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: it up right here. Thanks for listening. To another episode

1053
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: out there today. Make sure you rate and review. If

1054
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: you're listening on iTunes and I'm out, I'm out. This

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Speaker 1: has been a digital Sobuch Network production.