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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Combine Conversation podcast here on Nicolets Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: I'm Matt Taylor, and this week it's the NFL Combine

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Speaker 1: in Town in Indianapolis, and we're giving you some of

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Speaker 1: the top conversations we've had with NFL insiders and draft

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Speaker 1: analysts that are in the Circle City getting ready for

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Speaker 1: the upcoming twenty twenty five NFL Draft. And we've talked

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Speaker 1: with the who's who of NFL guests this week on

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Speaker 1: Radio Row, and today we want to focus on the

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Speaker 1: AFC South. On this episode, you're gonna hear an insider

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Speaker 1: from every team inside the division, and we're gonna start

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Speaker 1: in descending order. The Texans won the division for the

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Speaker 1: second consecutive season, so we'll begin with a visit with

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Speaker 1: John Harris, the football analyst for the Texans and radio

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Speaker 1: sideline reporter there as well. He knows this Houston ball

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Speaker 1: club inside and out. He also has really good perspective

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Speaker 1: on the draft as well. He's the owner of footballtakeover

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Speaker 1: dot Com. The Jaguars finished third inside the AFC South,

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Speaker 1: behind the Colts, and we'll chat with the voice of

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars, Frank Frangie, regarding the new hirings in Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: new head coach Liam Cohen and new general manager James Gladstone,

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Speaker 1: who are both in their first seasons in those respective roles.

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Speaker 1: And then the Titans finished last in the division and

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Speaker 1: they hold the top pick in the upcoming draft. RTT Bryan,

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Speaker 1: the executive producer of the Titans radio network. He'll talk

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Speaker 1: about how the Titans are poised to use that pick,

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Speaker 1: how they're adjusting to new GM and the music city

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Speaker 1: there and Mike Borganzi and how the team is dealing

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Speaker 1: with the departure of longtime play by play radio broadcaster

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Speaker 1: Mike Keith and he's now the voice of the Tennessee Volunteers,

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Speaker 1: So they're going to have a new look and sound,

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Speaker 1: we're loaded with content around the division that impacts the Colts.

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Speaker 1: So we get it started with our chat with John

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Speaker 1: Harris as he talks all things Texans, the AFC South

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Speaker 1: raigning Champs. We lead off our tour around the AFC

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Speaker 1: South here at the NFL Combine twenty twenty five on

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Speaker 1: Radio Row with.

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Speaker 2: The defending champs.

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Speaker 1: The Houston Texans won the division again and twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: the two time champs, and to talk him up is

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Speaker 1: John Harris, the football analyst for the Houston Texans on Radio,

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Speaker 1: Texans TV and Radio, sideline reporter for Texans Radio as well,

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Speaker 1: and the owner Football takeover dot Com. This man knows

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Speaker 1: the draft inside and out as well, on top of

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Speaker 1: being all over the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 2: Johnny, what's happening, Oh.

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Speaker 3: Matt, It's good to see you man. It's it's always

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Speaker 3: a fun event. I said to Mark as we were

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Speaker 3: been Indianapolis?

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Speaker 4: Man? And he did the count and he's like, he's like.

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Speaker 2: Thirty four, thirty four to twenty four.

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Speaker 4: Mine's about twenty two.

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Speaker 3: That I was joking with him when we were flying

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Speaker 3: back after Week one this past year because we went

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Speaker 3: but that happened. And I told Mark, I said, you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm six and five in Indianapolis. Yeah, since twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 3: That was my first year. I said, I'm sick and five.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I pointed at him and Andre say,

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Speaker 4: Six and five. I feel pretty good.

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Speaker 3: So, uh, you know, it was a it was a

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Speaker 3: it was an interesting year, was a long year. We

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Speaker 3: Spent about nine days in Ohio after that, you know,

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Speaker 3: We got some time away. But you know, I think

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Speaker 3: you guys said the same thing. Did you guys have

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Speaker 3: thirteen games in a row before the bye week? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we had the latest buy Yeah, we had the same week.

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Speaker 4: That's a wrong run. I mean, if the.

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Speaker 4: Week fourteen, Man, it was it was long.

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Speaker 1: There's not much you can do with a mid December

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, a lot, you know a lot

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but weather he's not very good and right, so

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Speaker 4: I mean we were. We were just exhausted by that point.

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Speaker 4: But you know what was us. You know, it's the NFL.

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Speaker 3: You deal with it, but you know, that was that

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Speaker 4: We just got run out of the building.

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Speaker 3: But you know, we got our stuff together for the

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Speaker 3: But I think we improved this year. I think we've

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Speaker 1: So the set up here, The Texans finished ten and

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Speaker 3: go back to Okay, you got the right players, you

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Speaker 3: have the right coach. And I think eventually Demiko Ryans

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Speaker 3: You know, Chris Strausser ended up losing his job as well.

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Speaker 3: So he wanted to get that offense to kind of

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Speaker 3: One of the things that he really harped on was

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Speaker 3: and an't going to beat you in a third quarter.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you guys ran I think the same stunt

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Speaker 5: It's not enough.

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Speaker 4: So maybe that's an opportunity. We'll see. But but we

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Speaker 3: I mean, I look at I look at y'all's wide

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Speaker 3: of that mix, like that that isn't happening. Can I

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Speaker 3: dream about Nico and t Higgins together? Hell yeah, but

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Speaker 3: it's not happening. But I like this draft. I think

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Speaker 3: this draft is going to have a player too. So

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Speaker 3: I think we'll sign a younger guy that maybe hasn't

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Speaker 3: hit his ceiling yet or you know, there's been questions

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Speaker 3: about her, he just hasn't found the right fit. I

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Speaker 3: think there'll be one of those guys that gets added.

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Speaker 3: I think we'll draft one, and then I do think

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Speaker 3: that they'll look at, you know, potentially a tight end

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Speaker 3: to go with the mix, you know, getting breadt Jordan

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Speaker 3: Back's gonna be huge. We miss Bred this past year.

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Speaker 3: We lost him in Week two the Bears. So I

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Speaker 3: like our tight ends. I think there's more to be

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Speaker 3: gained out of them. I think Kate Stover is going

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Speaker 3: to be a star. I really do.

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Speaker 5: I like Kate.

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Speaker 3: I think his I think he's going to continue to progress,

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Speaker 3: and he's the exact guy they want at tight end.

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Speaker 3: He's the type of guy mentally they're looking for because

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Speaker 3: he wants he got much better. I think he's gonna

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Speaker 3: be better as a receiver, so I think they're gonna

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Speaker 3: get more on him. But I think they're going to

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Speaker 3: add at least between wider sheet tight end.

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Speaker 4: I think the lad at least three different pass catchers.

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Speaker 1: John Harris football analysts for the Houston Texans and the

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Speaker 1: owner of Football takeover dot Com. Quickly, I want to

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Speaker 1: tap into your your draft knowledge here. Everybody talks about

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Speaker 1: this draft being it's a non flashy draft, it's a

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Speaker 1: trench draft, it's meat and potatoes type of year. What

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Speaker 1: makes this draft unique in the sense that we're not

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Speaker 1: seeing the high level quarterbacks and we're not seeing a

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Speaker 1: bevy of receivers like we've seen in recent past.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean you just have to fall in love

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Speaker 3: with some big sexies on the defensive side, because the

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Speaker 3: interior defensive line is as good as it gets. I

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Speaker 3: mean it was at the Senior Bowls, like, oh my god.

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Speaker 3: The one team was like an All SEC, you know, first, second,

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Speaker 3: third team. It was incredible. They were all I used

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Speaker 3: to see guys on one side of the defensive line.

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Speaker 3: But there's so many different interior defensive line in this draft.

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Speaker 3: I don't like the quarterbacks. Cam Ward, I'm okay with.

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Speaker 3: That's a West Columbia high school just outside of Houston,

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Speaker 3: guy that they used to be in our district many

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Speaker 3: many years ago. So I'm kind of partially to him.

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Speaker 3: Don't care for Shador at all. I hope he goes

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Speaker 3: to Tennessee for both of our sakes. But but I

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Speaker 3: I like the receiver group. The running back groups as

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Speaker 3: good as I've ever seen. This is a good running

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Speaker 3: back group as I've ever seen. Not everybody needs a

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Speaker 3: running back, and so what's gonna end up happening is

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Speaker 3: you're gonna have some of these guys that to me

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Speaker 3: could be late day to early day three. They're gonna

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Speaker 3: fall away out of the draft. They're gonna be undrafted

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Speaker 3: free agents. You're gonna get a really good undrafted free

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Speaker 3: agent on this group. But I mean it's incredible group

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Speaker 3: and it's and it's a little bit of everything. I mean,

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Speaker 3: gent d does everything. But Caleb Johnson from Iowa is

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Speaker 3: you know, six' one two twenty I mean, and runs

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Speaker 3: outside zone as well as anybody. So I think you

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Speaker 3: know you can get you get sexy with the running back.

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Speaker 3: You're just not gonna have that with the quarterbacks. And

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Speaker 3: I think what that does is, to me, there's always

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Speaker 3: less movement in a draft, trades and such when you

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Speaker 3: don't have the quarterbacks. To me, that's the way it

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Speaker 3: kind of that's the way I think about it. But

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Speaker 3: you won't have that, which I think makes a draft

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Speaker 3: a little bit sexy here. But I do think running

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Speaker 3: backs are tremendously tight ended class is really good. But

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Speaker 3: the interior defensive line class, I mean, Ballart's probably having

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Speaker 3: a party in his draft room looking at all those dudes

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Speaker 3: on the defensive line. He can add he'll probably draft

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Speaker 3: five of them and find a way to rotate them

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Speaker 3: because they're they're his kind of guy. But I think,

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Speaker 3: you know, that's one of the positions I think we

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Speaker 3: have to look at because we have a few older

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Speaker 3: guys up there. Played very well, but we have some

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Speaker 3: older guys. This is that draft. If you need an

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Speaker 3: interior defensive line, yeah, this is this is the one

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Speaker 3: I think you can absolutely you know, starting with Mason

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Speaker 3: Graham from Michigan and then go down the list. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's it's an incredible, incredible group on the interior defensive line.

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Speaker 3: So I think that's a whole other position we've got

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Speaker 3: to look at just from a debt perspective, but we

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Speaker 3: also need our guys played well inside, but we needed

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Speaker 3: we and our Buckner. We need our Brokram Stewart. You know,

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Speaker 3: that's the kind of guy I think we need on

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Speaker 3: the inside. I think this is one of the drafts

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Speaker 3: that you could find out.

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Speaker 1: Great stuff right there. Everything you need to know in

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Speaker 1: depth on the draft. And of course the Houston Texan

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Speaker 1: John Harris always happy to have you here for a

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Speaker 1: year for a visit, I should say in the twenties

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Speaker 1: back to Indianapolis. Enjoy the combine and you're the best.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for the time.

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Speaker 4: You guys are such good hosts.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you and appreciate you having me on Matt, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Our two around the AFC South continues here in the

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Speaker 1: off season. We're at the NFL Combine twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: by Matt Taylor here on Radio Row now joined by

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Speaker 1: the voice of the Jacksonville Jaguars, Frank Frangie Frank always

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Speaker 1: a pleasure. Welcome back to town. How you doing, Madam

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Speaker 1: doing Gray coming to your town. You're like the host,

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Speaker 1: this is like your event.

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Speaker 2: I'm not doing a very good job.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't cut out to be a host. And when

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Speaker 1: we plan things, I leave that up to my wife.

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Speaker 1: She takes care of it. That's why people think I'm.

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Speaker 5: A good host.

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Speaker 7: I get it. But it's great to be here. I

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Speaker 7: love the event. It's laid back, you know, it's fun, Matt.

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Speaker 7: It's a laid back it's serious, it's important, but everybody's

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Speaker 7: kind of laid back. No, I don't want to say

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Speaker 7: they don't take it seriously. They do take it seriously,

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Speaker 7: but it's a laid back time and I really I

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Speaker 7: really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no question about it.

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Speaker 5: There.

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Speaker 1: It's like at the beginning of a two month sprint

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Speaker 1: in terms of roster acquisition, overhaul and things like that.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of overhaul, we'll talk about the moves that Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: Jaguars have made.

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Speaker 2: But just sort of a set up here.

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Speaker 1: The Jags four and thirteen last year, third in the

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Speaker 1: AFC South. Dating back to the season before last twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three. Unfortunately, you know this, Frank, the Jags have

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Speaker 1: lost eighteen of their last twenty three games. Shot con

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Speaker 1: You know, at the beginning of last year, going into

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, he said, hey, guys, this is going

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Speaker 1: to be our best season ever. This is the best version,

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Speaker 1: best roster the Jacksonville Jaguars have ever had under his

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Speaker 1: watch during his time there. What were the biggest factors

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Speaker 1: that went into last season being a disappointment.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, First of all, it was the ultimate disappointment, Matt.

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Speaker 7: I think we all thought it was going to be.

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Speaker 7: You know, we've we've lost a lot of games since

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Speaker 7: in my eleven years calling Jags games, but most of

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Speaker 7: the years we struggled. I kind of anticipated it wasn't

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Speaker 7: gonna be a great year, maybe not as bad as

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Speaker 7: it was last year. I was surprised. I thought I

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Speaker 7: thought we had a pretty good team. Won the division

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Speaker 7: two years ago, three years ago, two years ago, one

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Speaker 7: play short of winning it again. I thought they had

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Speaker 7: two straight winning seasons nine and eight. But at our plays,

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Speaker 7: that's pretty good. And last year we thought it would

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Speaker 7: be a special year and it was a terrible year.

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Speaker 7: I hated it. Things went wrong, if you asked me.

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Speaker 7: The one thing on the field, they weren't very physical

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Speaker 7: on either line of scrimmage. And man, we just saw

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Speaker 7: a Super Bowl to see how you can win a

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Speaker 7: Super Bowl if you're physical. The most physical team in

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Speaker 7: the league with the Eagles, and they're they're holding the

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Speaker 7: trophy now on Matt So if they struggled defensively, they

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Speaker 7: brought in Ryan Nielson, the defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 5: I just didn't go very well.

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Speaker 7: They got caught in some I mean, I'll give you

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Speaker 7: a perfect example of what they were the first Colts game,

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Speaker 7: the game in Jacksonville. Okay, they're up two three touchdowns

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Speaker 7: in the fourth quarter, Alec Pierce gets behind them, touchdown,

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Speaker 7: They get the ball again, they score again or whatever,

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Speaker 7: put whatever, Alix Pierce gets behind him again, Boom, touchdown.

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Speaker 7: They almost lost that game, a game that they it

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Speaker 7: outplayed the Colts three and a half quarters. Yeah, but

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Speaker 7: those balls over the top were that really hurt them

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Speaker 7: throughout the season. The first game of the year against

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Speaker 7: the Dolphins, they had the game one and two big

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Speaker 7: balls over the top, So the safety's got beat. But

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Speaker 7: they weren't very physical, and I think you got to

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Speaker 7: build the line of scrimmage. And one thing I think

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Speaker 7: the new regime led by Tony Boselli, but also James Gladstone,

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Speaker 7: the new GM, and Liam Cohen the coach. One thing

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Speaker 7: they've talked about they've preached the little bit of time

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Speaker 7: they've been.

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Speaker 5: There, Yeah, is you got to get more physical. And

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Speaker 5: I think that's what they've got to do.

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Speaker 2: All right, So that's a natural segue. You brought it

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Speaker 2: up new GM.

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Speaker 1: James Gladstone was with the Rams the past nine years,

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Speaker 1: was the director of scouting strategy for the past three seasons.

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Speaker 2: Out in LA. What makes this a good hire?

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Speaker 1: What did you make of the timing in terms of

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Speaker 1: at the end of the season head coach gets let go,

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Speaker 1: I should say, then I think a week or two

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Speaker 1: after that, GM gets let go and adds up to

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Speaker 1: this the search and the conclusion.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, with glad Stoe.

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Speaker 7: It was an awkward end that one of the people

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Speaker 7: getting fired didn't get fired for a couple weeks that

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Speaker 7: was weird, and one day it was a strange end

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Speaker 7: of the season. I think Shod was trying to get

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Speaker 7: it right. I think part of it was Shod working

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Speaker 7: through it to figure out the best way to do this,

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Speaker 7: and I think he felt at the end of the

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Speaker 7: day cleaning house entirely was the way to do it.

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Speaker 7: As for the guys that are there now, I met

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Speaker 7: James Gladsden for the first time today.

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Speaker 5: He was hired.

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Speaker 7: He got the job on Friday. There was a press

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Speaker 7: conference yesterday. I was in the air applying to Indianapolis.

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Speaker 7: So I had never met him. So I can't I

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Speaker 7: can't give you an intelligent opinion on him. Boy, he

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Speaker 7: seems like a sharp guy. He's highly regarded. Is very

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Speaker 7: clear when you talk to him, how bright he is,

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Speaker 7: how articulate he is, how crisp his comments are. There's

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Speaker 7: no wavering, he has committed. He seems to know what

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Speaker 7: he's talking about. So and I really like Liam. I

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Speaker 7: think Liam's a regular guy. What I think you'll see

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Speaker 7: they're young. Now, it's a thirty nine year old coach,

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Speaker 7: a thirty four year old general manager, and a twenty

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Speaker 7: nine year old offensive coordinator. It's a young group, but

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Speaker 7: I do think the buzzwords matter collaboration and alignment, coaborational alignment.

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Speaker 5: We've seen so many times in the league.

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Speaker 7: I know you know this that when it starts going bad,

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Speaker 7: GM blames the coach, and coach blames the GM, and.

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Speaker 2: The messaging is different.

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Speaker 7: That's correct, and I think there so they're striving. We'll

653
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Speaker 7: see if they pull it off, but they're striving for

654
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 7: alignment and collaboration and they seem to be off to

655
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 7: a good start. No listen, no one's playing any games yet. Yeah,

656
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 7: but that's what I've taken out of the grouping so far.

657
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: And you mentioned all the freshness there. James Gladstone thirty

658
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: nine or excuse me, thirty four. Liam Cohen's thirty nine,

659
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: and then Tony Boselli. He's not, you know, a young guy,

660
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: but he's the first time person in the position that

661
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: he that he's in, and that's vice president of football Operations,

662
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: and he knows football right. He was in the booth

663
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: with you and now he's in the front office. Does

664
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: this does it feel different? What about this energy is

665
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: different compared to when Doug came in or when urban

666
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: Meyer was hired.

667
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 7: I was real close to Doug Peterson. I think Doug's

668
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 7: a wonderful man and a wonderful coach, and I'm sorry

669
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 7: it didn't go well for him, and I think he's

670
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 7: going to get another chance to some point he's going

671
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 7: to be great. I'm a big Doug Peterson guy. I

672
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 7: didn't know Trent Balky as well as I did. I

673
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 7: didn't know Urban well. I knew Gus Bradley very well,

674
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 7: who you know also very well. So I've known some

675
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 7: of the coaches better than others. There's an energy now

676
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 7: unlike anything I've ever seen, because it's new guys who

677
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 7: are excited about their first crack at. Yeah, that's what

678
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 7: you have to prove. Yeah, there's an The energy is

679
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 7: off the chart. Now does that turn into wins? Does

680
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 7: that turn into a better suit?

681
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 5: Well, we'll see. Here's my guess, Matt.

682
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 7: My guess is the energy, the chip on your shoulder,

683
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 7: the desire to prove it is going to be really good.

684
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 7: I think I think the coaching and player of procurement

685
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 7: is going to be really good. The line was going

686
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 7: to be good. But if you've never done it, you're

687
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 7: going to make some mistakes and so I think the

688
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 7: big challenge is how did they get through the mistakes

689
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 7: when they whether it's an acquisition of personnel mistake or

690
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 7: a play calling mistake or whatever. How do they deal

691
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 7: with that together? That's when we with a bunch of

692
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 7: guys knew for the first time. How do they manage that?

693
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 7: I think that's the biggest part of it. But the

694
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 7: energy is palpable now. These guys can't wait to get going.

695
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: All right.

696
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: That's Frank Frazie, the voice of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Or

697
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: you mentioned Liam Cohen, young guy offensive coordinator with Tampa Bay,

698
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: spent four years. He's a Sean McVay guy out with

699
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: the Rams. How do you think he can best help

700
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence.

701
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's agreed. That's really the money question, isn't it.

702
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 7: I think a few things. Number One, Trevor needs to relax.

703
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 7: The weight of the world is not on his shoulders.

704
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 7: I think this is a guy, Matt he was the

705
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 7: first overall pick.

706
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: Is he pretty I mean personality wise he pretty wound up?

707
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 7: No, but he's a very laid back guy. But he's

708
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 7: a guy that's hard on himself. Yeah, I think that.

709
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 7: I think that he's not. He's a very laid back guy.

710
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 7: Trevor Lawrence. If you get to know him, he's the

711
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 7: ultimate pleaser. He wants a plea. He's a really good dude.

712
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 7: He's a laid back guy. He's not, Hey, look at me,

713
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 7: I'm football player guy.

714
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 6: Man.

715
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 5: He is a laid back, easy going guy.

716
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 7: But think about this for a second now. He was

717
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 7: the first overall pick in the draft, and you knew

718
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 7: he was going to be before a senior year in

719
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 7: college or final year in college. He was the top

720
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 7: recruit in America as a high school guy. People have

721
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,479
Speaker 7: been counting on him to be great since he was

722
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 7: in the seventh grade. So he wins state titles in

723
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 7: high school, he wins a national title at Clemson. He's

724
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 7: the first picker, so much is expected of him. I

725
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 7: think the most important thing Liam can do for him relax.

726
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 7: It's not all on you. Yeah, And I think Doug

727
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 7: tried to do that as well. It's not all on you,

728
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 7: So I think that's first and foremost.

729
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 4: Ye.

730
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 7: The thing is this most quarterbacks I've seen, and you'll

731
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 7: watch it as Anthony Richardson continues to develop. You and

732
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 7: I've been around this league a long time man quarterbacks

733
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 7: are at their best years five through ten or eleven,

734
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 7: their first three or four. I mean, I mean, look

735
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 7: a look at Baker Mayfield, look at Sam Darnold R

736
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 7: had a big year. Sometimes it takes the second or

737
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 7: third stop. Yeah, but it certainly takes the fifth or

738
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 7: sixth year. And Trevor's going into his fifth year now.

739
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 7: Now he's been with a lot of coordinators, a lot.

740
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: Of head coaches, He's had a lot of voices in

741
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 2: his ear.

742
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 7: He has, but he's older now, he's been through it

743
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 7: a little, but he knows what to think. So we're

744
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 7: hoping your five, six, and seven. I think he's the

745
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 7: right guy, and I hope Liam connects with him. I

746
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 7: get the since he will right now. They've got a

747
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 7: good connection out of the gate. So what Liam Cohen

748
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 7: unlocked some stuff in Baker Mayfield last year that had

749
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 7: not been unlocked.

750
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 5: Right, That's why I got the job. So let's see

751
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 5: if you can do the same thing with Trevor.

752
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: I'm more on Trevor Lawrence. I read this so from

753
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: the start of twenty twenty two, from the start of

754
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: that season, the week twelve of twenty twenty three, I'm

755
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: gonna get nerdy on you here, but this is this

756
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: is fascinating to me. In that stretch, Lawrence completed almost

757
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: seventy percent of his passes, thirty seven touchdowns, fifteen picks.

758
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 5: Right, pretty good, yep.

759
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: Since then, those numbers are dropped down to around sixty

760
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: one percent, twenty touchdowns, fourteen interceptions. So where do things

761
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: kind of slip off for Trevor Lawrence.

762
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 7: Well, a few things happened. Number one, I think Christian Kirk,

763
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 7: who's his go to? Who's his best friend? And his

764
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 7: go to? Has been heard a bunch since then. There's

765
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 7: been a lot of injury. I think that's part of it.

766
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 7: The line has not been nearly as good. Trevor didn't

767
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 7: forget how to play. He didn't change, he didn't all

768
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 7: of a sudden start doing X when he had been

769
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 7: doing Why nobody does that. So there's exchange, and I

770
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 7: think he pressed a little bit. I think a few

771
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 7: things went bad. I think he started to press. I

772
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 7: think he started trying to force things that weren't there.

773
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 7: And I think all that started with the fact that

774
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 7: they lost some key guys. Cam Robinson at their left

775
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 7: tackle is a pretty good player. He's hurt, Christian Kirk, he's hurt.

776
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 7: Then Trevor started getting banged up. You've never had four

777
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 7: injuries two years ago, and then the bad injury last

778
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 7: year that cost him the rest of the season.

779
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 5: So I think a re So not to duck your question.

780
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 5: I think a lot of stuff.

781
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 7: Around him changed, and I think that made him start pressing,

782
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 7: and I think that's where it started to go bad.

783
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 7: As for the rebirth, everybody starts anew, and I think

784
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 7: that's kind of where they hope he is.

785
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: You know, we always saw the Jaguars in Week eighteen,

786
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,239
Speaker 1: and I remember talking to you before the game. All

787
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: of the one score losses or the one score games, right,

788
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: thirteen one score games, ten one score losses, the most

789
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: in NFL history for a team in a single season.

790
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,479
Speaker 2: So it's not like they're getting ill. I mean, it's

791
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: kind of like the Colts.

792
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: The Colts are always in every game, they just aren't

793
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: finishing games. But what else needs to change for the

794
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: Jaguars to finish some of those games, flip the record

795
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: and be more in contention?

796
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 5: They need some success early. You a golfer, you play golf?

797
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: Uh no, okay, but but I can speak golf.

798
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 5: Okay, I play a lot of golf.

799
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: I know you did.

800
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 7: Okay, I'm a big golf and I can tell you

801
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 7: that the guy that misses two or three four foot

802
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 7: puts is going to spend the rest of the day mass.

803
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: Thinking about it.

804
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 7: Three or four foot putts. Yeah, I think the Jags

805
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 7: had a little close. One get away, then another close.

806
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 7: When you know what happens after that, you start pressing, Oh,

807
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 7: here we go again. It's the fourth quarter and we're

808
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 7: up for or we're down for, and there's three forty

809
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 7: eight to play and you're tight. The teams that win

810
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 7: those games are loose.

811
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 5: Some of that was on Trevor.

812
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 7: I mean, they're playing the Eagles late in the year,

813
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 7: clearly the best it turned out, the best team in

814
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 7: the league. Matt I thought that in Philadelphia. I thought,

815
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 7: I'll play them now. Hurts made a big play to

816
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 7: give the Eagles their four point lead. We had more

817
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 7: four point deficits and anybody in history of the sport. I

818
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 7: think again, a four point lead, did Jags come right

819
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 7: down the field? Did Jags have a first down at

820
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 7: the twelve? Maybe to play down four and Trevor throws

821
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 7: a first down the interception and game over.

822
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think, and that's.

823
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 7: Not believe it's not all on Trevor, but on that

824
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 7: one game, it's probably a play they ran a wheel

825
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 7: route on first down, a first down interception, and Trevor's

826
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 7: got to know and he would tell you this. Then

827
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 7: on a wheel route, if it's covered, throw it in

828
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 7: the third row.

829
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 5: And it's second down. And I think little things like that.

830
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 7: Other time Travis Etn fumbles inside the five yard line.

831
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 7: So I think it's the more mistakes you make like that,

832
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 7: the more they start to mount. And then I think

833
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 7: that maybe that alignment between coach and GM starts to

834
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 7: fray a little bit because everybody's now fighting for their jobs.

835
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 5: And I think all of us would have.

836
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 2: No doubt about that.

837
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 1: It's Frank Frangie, Voice of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Final couple

838
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: of things, Frank draft needs for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

839
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: Where you're looking at So you got.

840
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 7: To get better to line scrimmage, Matt. They got to

841
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 7: get this guy Mason Graham from Michigan. I hope he's

842
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 7: there at five. I hope he's there. I mean, that's

843
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 7: the name everyone's talking about. You got to get better

844
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 7: at the liners. Look, when you're four and thirteen, there's

845
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 7: a lot of needs. It's not all bad coaching. It

846
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 7: means there's some personelity, no doubt. They need a receiver

847
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 7: to play opposite Brian Thomas Jr. They need a cornerback

848
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 7: to playoffs opposite Tyson Campbell. They probably need a safety.

849
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 7: But more than at least in my mind, man, you

850
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 7: got to get better at the line of scrimmage. You

851
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 7: couldn't run the ball at all, Trevor said Trevor and

852
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 7: Trevor's post postseason after Doug was gone and we asked Trevor.

853
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 7: The media asked Trevor what went wrong? We w'ent wrong

854
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 7: with the offense, and the first thing he said is

855
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 7: we tried so hard, but we could never run it.

856
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 7: And when you can't run it, you become predictable. In

857
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 7: this league, if you're predictable, you have no chance. So

858
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 7: the lines, that's what Seaan said at the end of

859
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 7: the season. Offensively, we are so predicted, right, and that

860
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 7: was because you couldn't run it. And if you can't

861
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 7: run it, there's not a whole lot else you can do.

862
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 7: And so the lines of scrimmage Matt They've got to

863
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 7: get better at the line of scrimmage.

864
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 2: Built for through free agency, that for sure, all right.

865
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: The renovation of the stadium EverBank Field getting a facelift

866
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: starting with this season.

867
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, it starts.

868
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 7: Uh.

869
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 5: They're building some of the surrounding areas this year. Next year,

870
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 5: they're gonna it really begins.

871
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 7: So in the twenty six seeds the limited capacity correct

872
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 7: twenty six season is limited capacity twenty seven season. They're

873
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 7: not gonna play there, audios. They're either going to play

874
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 7: in Orlando or Gainesville. What would you prefer? I would

875
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 7: prefer Gainesville. It's closer. I'm all about closer. But I

876
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 7: think they're got My guess is they're gonna land in

877
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 7: Orlando Orlando right now. Gainesville's got some non NFL stuff.

878
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 7: You can't run the TV trucks behind the behind the benches.

879
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 7: They'd have to really redo the visitor locker room visiting

880
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 7: locker room where Orlando's already got that stuff ready because

881
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 7: they have the Pro Bowl hole there and so so.

882
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 7: So my hope would be I've told this story so

883
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 7: many times when we were doing our we were doing

884
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 7: our you me, Mike and Mark. We're doing our our

885
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 7: four play guys Brown table. We were talking about the

886
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 7: stadiums and I'll never forget the story you told how

887
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 7: you got drenched in our stadium.

888
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and twenty nineteen and with the water, yeah, I said.

889
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 7: I said, And I've told this since you told me

890
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 7: that great story. I've repeated this story probably twenty times. Really,

891
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 7: you know how Iowa, Oh you know in Iowa you

892
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 7: play Iowa game, they paint the visiting lockwaum pink.

893
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, to intimidate. We drenched the appropriate play guy. Everyone's

894
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 5: got their own thing, make miserable. I've told that story.

895
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 2: I mean I literally I called the game.

896
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: It was it was pouring rain and I don't know

897
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: vent and water was coming rain, water was coming through that.

898
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: It was getting on all the equipment, all the tech

899
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: stuff and all the game materials. So I had to

900
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: call the game from up above, like where the engineers sit,

901
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 1: just to stay away from the water and the precipitation,

902
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: and called it right next to a bucket that was

903
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: collecting water from the vent that was from up above.

904
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 7: Well, we've got we had the state of the art stadium.

905
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 7: It's gonna look a little bit like so far, there's

906
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 7: going to be a roof, but no side. It's gonna

907
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 7: be a canopy. Yeah, it's good.

908
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 5: More of almost like so far yeah almost like sort of.

909
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 7: It's gonna be gorgeous. The renderings are spectac it really is, Matt.

910
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 7: It's gonna be one of the most beautiful stadiums, something

911
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 7: different than anybody else's see because it's gonna be smaller.

912
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 5: Obviously it's so far, But I.

913
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 7: Have put in a request allow us to continue to

914
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 7: drench the opposing playbof play guy.

915
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, even though just me, just me's mad when the

916
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: Colts coming, I'm good at that.

917
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 2: Turn on the sprinkler unit.

918
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 5: It's awesome.

919
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: Frank, you're the best. Always appreciate your time. Thanks for

920
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: the glimpse in here to the Jacksonville Jaguars, and enjoy

921
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: the rest of your stay here in Indy.

922
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 5: Matt, you're a great friend. Like catching up with you. Thanks, buddy, all.

923
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: Right, our last trip you're on our too. Round the

924
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: AFC South takesas to Nashville. Time now to talk about

925
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: the Titans as we visit with rhtt Bryan, the executive

926
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 1: producer and game day host on the Titans Radio network.

927
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: Last season, the Titans were four and thirteen. They finished

928
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: last in the division. Now they have the top pick

929
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: in the draft for the first time and the Titans

930
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: era dating back to nineteen ninety nine. They've got a

931
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: new GM in town, Mike Borganzi. He has sixteen years

932
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: of experience with the Kansas City Chiefs and for the

933
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 1: last four seasons he served as case He's assistant general manager.

934
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: The Titans were swept by the Colts last season in

935
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: two games. Will Levice is still a quarterback. But what

936
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: do they do with the quarterbacks in the draft and

937
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 1: how do they assess the rest of the prospect landscape.

938
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: That's going to be a very fascinating coming up. But Rhett,

939
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: right now, it's a pretty interesting time to be a

940
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: Titans fan.

941
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 6: Without a doubt, Matt. And you know, here's the thing.

942
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 6: You earned that first overall pick. I mean three and fourteen,

943
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 6: I'll get you there, and it did. I guess. The

944
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 6: good thing is that you've got a couple of quarterbacks

945
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 6: to choose from at the top if you decide to

946
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:40,479
Speaker 6: go that direction. But you also have some real blue

947
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 6: chip prospects in that area if you decide to stick

948
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 6: and pick. If you don't go quarterback. Then you've got

949
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 6: Abdul Carter, they edged Bash Rusher from Penn State, and

950
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 6: then you could have Travis Hunter, the quarterback slash wide

951
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 6: receiver from Colorado. I think those two probably can't miss

952
00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 6: prospects in this. So you also begin those conversations here

953
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 6: at the Indianapolis Convention Center about well, if I offered

954
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 6: you this, what would you take? So you know, we

955
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 6: all know that's where those conversations begin at this event.

956
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 6: I think they probably start churning a little bit during

957
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 6: Senior Bowl week, but this is where it really happens. So,

958
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 6: I mean, they've got options, it's just not the twenty

959
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 6: twenty four draft options where you've got three, you know,

960
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 6: lock solid prospect quarterbacks at the top, all the offensive

961
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 6: tackle offerings. It's more of a workman's you know, meat

962
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 6: and potatoes draft is whatever he's been saying all week.

963
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 5: Right.

964
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: So with the Titans this year, one of the big

965
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: storylines new general manager Mike Borganzhi. What's your feel for

966
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: him and how do you think he's going to attack

967
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: this roster with his fingerprints all over it?

968
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 6: Well, you have to go back and look at his

969
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 6: tenure early on with the Kansas City Chiefs. He spent

970
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 6: sixteen seasons there, and in Scott Poli's last year, they

971
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 6: had a terrible season. They had the number one overall pick,

972
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 6: they decided not to go quarterback. They went Eric Fisher tackle,

973
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 6: and he was a part of that group that did

974
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 6: that hired him.

975
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:10,959
Speaker 5: Yeah.

976
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, so he's kind of seen this unfold before. I'm

977
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 6: sure he took away some lessons from that. Plus he

978
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 6: was a part of the group that ended up trading

979
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 6: up and getting Patrick Mahomes at eleven just a few

980
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 6: years back. That's worked out all right, But I think

981
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 6: it's interesting to see his process with Like he told

982
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 6: us this week that if free agency is you know,

983
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 6: obviously it's a big part of that, the whole process

984
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 6: as that's a couple of weeks away. But he's not

985
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 6: going to you know, he's got a price set for

986
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 6: ex Target Y, target Z, target and if it goes

987
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 6: over that, he's not going to give that same kind

988
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 6: of money to the next guy inline or pursue so much. So,

989
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 6: I mean, he clear has philosophies and thoughts in this.

990
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 6: I mean, we're just learning about this because obviously he

991
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 6: hadn't been boots on the ground very long, but I

992
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 6: certainly think he's got a plan. They've just spent the

993
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 6: last three and a half weeks in the dungeon looking

994
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 6: at tape, both for the prospects here at the Combine

995
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 6: and also the potential free agents. They have a bunch

996
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 6: of their own after re sign.

997
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: Today, no doubt about that.

998
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: How do you think he feels or has he said

999
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 1: anything publicly about his sentiments towards Will Levis and what

1000
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: he's seen the first two years there.

1001
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 6: Well, I think the more telling thing is is the

1002
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 6: sentiment from the head coach towards Will Levis, Because you know,

1003
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 6: Brian Callahan has been around and worked around a lot

1004
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 6: of good quarterbacks. You know, Dave was around Derek Carr

1005
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 6: with the Raiders and obviously his time with Joe Burrow

1006
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 6: more recently with the Cincinnati Bengals, and so he values

1007
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 6: that and I think they still see value in Will.

1008
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 6: I guess it remains to be seen where we are

1009
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 6: right now at the end of February going into March,

1010
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 6: as to what happens whether they take a bridge quarterback

1011
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 6: in free agency and they drive after another. I don't

1012
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 6: know what that does for him. He's still under contract.

1013
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 6: For two more years.

1014
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 1: So film at eleven on that one, right, no question

1015
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: about it. Do you think Will has more in the tank?

1016
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: I mean, potential wise, he's had We talked about this

1017
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: earlier in the week. He's had a lot of people

1018
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: chirping at him in his head. He's had a lot

1019
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: of head coaches and maybe offensive coordinators dating back to

1020
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: college at Kentucky and Penn State, and then a lot

1021
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 1: of turnover unfortunately in his recenter in his early stages

1022
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: of his NFL co.

1023
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 6: Listen to the acumen is there, The arm talent is

1024
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 6: definitely there. I think the thing he's got to do

1025
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 6: is get out of his own headspace. And I think

1026
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 6: that's what was part of the problem when the season

1027
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 6: started with there's some mistakes he was making and knowing

1028
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 6: when the journey's over, try not to extend every play

1029
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 6: with your body and try to make something happen. Because

1030
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 6: at the points in time, and I'll take go back

1031
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 6: to Week one in Chicago last year, that was early

1032
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 6: on in the ball game. It wasn't like it was

1033
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 6: two minutes morning, fourth quarter type of situation, and in fact,

1034
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 6: you're up seventeen nothing at halftime and you end up losing,

1035
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 6: and it wasn't all Caleb Williams that you know, led

1036
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 6: the charge because he's just learning himself. Sure, So I

1037
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 6: think if you can get him through the process of

1038
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 6: eliminating some of those mistakes, because listen, quarterback's going to

1039
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 6: throw a pick, he's.

1040
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:25,959
Speaker 4: Going to fumble the ball.

1041
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's what you know, nobody's talking about.

1042
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 6: Cam Ward had forty six fumbles in his college career. Well,

1043
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 6: I mean will Levis didn't have like twenty five between

1044
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 6: both places. So I think that's the thing that he

1045
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 6: has to look at the most, is how to correct

1046
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 6: some of those mistakes and know when the journey's over

1047
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 6: all right.

1048
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: Then on the defensive side of the ball, defensive end

1049
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: Harold Landry, who's always played really well against the Colts

1050
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 1: ask for a trade. Is that symbolic that the defensive

1051
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: side of the ball is going to get revamped as well?

1052
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 6: Well, I mean they have so many needs, Matt, there's

1053
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 6: already needs on that side of the ball to begin with.

1054
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 6: I think that just kind of Upsteanti in this. You know,

1055
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 6: Harold has been a certainly more than productive player, as

1056
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 6: you know. I mean, he's got seventeen and a half

1057
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 6: million bucks coming to him this year as it stands,

1058
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 6: because he earned that thirty one and a half quarterbacks

1059
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 6: acts over the last three years. And it's no secret

1060
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 6: the Titans have had some bad teams the last couple

1061
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 6: of years. I think it's partially, you know, the idea

1062
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 6: that okay, I'm not getting any younger, I still have

1063
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 6: production value. I want a chance to go maybe compete

1064
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 6: somewhere if I can. We'll see whether they grant him

1065
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 6: his wishes or not. I don't know how that works out,

1066
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 6: but that also, you know, changes the thought of, Okay,

1067
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 6: if we've got this, do we you know, think about

1068
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 6: sticking and picking Abduall Carter because you need something there.

1069
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 6: And if we're being honest, Abdul Carter is an upgrade

1070
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 6: over Harold Landry, not just because of production in college

1071
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,720
Speaker 6: and those things, but I mean, Haroldandry was never rated

1072
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 6: that high coming out of school. And plus this guy's young, right,

1073
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 6: you know, Harold's got some snaps and some tread on

1074
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,479
Speaker 6: the tires that's been taken off over the years. But yeah,

1075
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 6: I mean, look, it's never a dull moment, and Titans

1076
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 6: offseasons has certainly seen that with a change. You mentioned

1077
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 6: the change in the GM the first overall pick, so it's.

1078
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: Certainly a lot to talk about and off the field

1079
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: as well. And yeah, you and I talked about this

1080
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Speaker 1: what had happened. I remember sending you a text because

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Speaker 1: I know you're really close with this man. Mike Keith

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00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: a longtime voice of the Tennessee Titans. He had been

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00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: the voice of the team since nineteen ninety nine, dating

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00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: back to the infancy of the Titans era. He leaves

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Speaker 1: the team and takes a job. He's now the voice

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Speaker 1: of the Tennessee Volunteers. I know you guys were really

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Speaker 1: really close. How shocking was that news? And how are

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00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: you still processing? There's guys in Indianapolis that have done

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00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: this a long time that are just synonymous with those products,

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Speaker 1: and I know Mike is the same way.

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Speaker 6: There's twenty five plus seasons sure of Titan's history in

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00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 6: that book alone, and they've all been told by Mike Keith.

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Speaker 6: Five hundred and thirty two games worth. Wow, I mean

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00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 6: all the highs, all the low's, three AFC Championship game appearances,

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Speaker 6: one Super Bowl appearance, playoff in and win and in scenarios,

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Speaker 6: all the you know, all those Dereck Henry runs all

1097
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 6: of this stuff, Eddie, George, Steve McNair. I mean, he's

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00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 6: told it all.

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Speaker 5: So it's huge.

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Speaker 2: It's a big moments against the Colts.

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Speaker 6: Oh gosh, right, absolutely, absolutely, and personally I'm still dealing

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Speaker 6: with it and it will be for a while. Like

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00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 6: this week has been a reminder. Okay, Mike's not here.

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Speaker 6: Where's Mike. Oh, Mike's and Knoxville should be here. He

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00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 6: should be here, And look.

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Speaker 4: We're super happy for him.

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Speaker 6: I mean it's very rarely do you have someone who

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00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 6: gets a dream scenario job opportunity twice in a career,

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Speaker 6: and Mike earned that. And I know he'll be great

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Speaker 6: calling University of Tennessee basketball and football games because we

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00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 6: know how much he prepares and how talented he is.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, the original voice of the Titans will be

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00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 6: sorely missed.

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Speaker 5: It is bittersweet.

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's talk about some positivity. The stadium across

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Speaker 1: the street, the new Nissan Stadium. It's going to be

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Speaker 1: state of the art, it's going to be big for

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00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: the city of Nashville. It's going to lead some really

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Speaker 1: outstanding things coming to town.

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Speaker 6: So it's right at the anniversary date of when they

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00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 6: broke round and unseasonably dry summer and fall, and with

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00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 6: that they're about four months ahead of schedule. So I

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Speaker 6: mean the bones of the thing. It's clearly. You can

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Speaker 6: see it when you go down the Interstate there in

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Speaker 6: downtown Nashville. It sits right next door to the current

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00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 6: Nissan Stadium. It just faces a different direction. Current Nissan

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00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 6: Stadium faces north to the south. This one faces west

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Speaker 6: to east. But it will be enclosed, translucent roof like

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Speaker 6: so far where the chargers and rams play, so natural

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Speaker 6: light comes in a little less seating than what we've

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Speaker 6: had about sixty nine thousand changes what Nissan is new

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Speaker 6: Nissan will be closer to sixty two I think, but

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Speaker 6: all the amenities, all the latest, greatest things you can

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Speaker 6: think of. There's a performance stage because it is in

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Speaker 6: Music City, and they will have concerts, not during but

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Speaker 6: just even during games. It will be so there's a

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Speaker 6: performance stage in the lower bowl that is supposed to

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Speaker 6: be equivalent to the square footage of the Grand O

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Speaker 6: Loppery stage. And then what I'm told seventy thousand square

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00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 6: feet of LED. There's this ring in there they call

1141
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 6: the Ring of Fire on Johnny Cash and that kind

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Speaker 6: of immerses everyone in the experience into it, just kind

1143
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 6: of immerses them into not only the ball games, but

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Speaker 6: I mean, you name it. Because of its enclosure and

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00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 6: latest technologies, anything and everything's going to be there. I

1146
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 6: think the Combined, if it ever moves, I hope it

1147
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 6: doesn't stay in Indy, but I think that's a chance.

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00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 6: I think the Draft comes back to Nashville. You're certainly

1149
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 6: going to get a chance at the super Bowl because

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00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 6: of the roof and so there's no inclement things weatherwise

1151
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 6: to deal with. But it is going to be a

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00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 6: super building.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: My man, you got a lot on your plate and

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you more. You know, Ret Brian a longtime

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Speaker 1: producer executive producer of the Titan Radio network and he's

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Speaker 1: an even better guy. Thanks so much for the time.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate your insights on the Titans and all the best.

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Speaker 6: Matt, appreciate you and best of luck to you guys

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Speaker 6: this offseason.

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Speaker 1: That's Rhet Brian on the Tennessee Titans, and we thank

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Speaker 1: him very much for his time at the Combine, along

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Speaker 1: with John Harris and Frank Frangie as well. And that's

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Speaker 1: the AFC South Round Table edition of Combine Conversations here

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Speaker 1: at the twenty twenty five NFL Combine. Hope you enjoyed

1166
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Speaker 1: that and learn a little bit about what the cults

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Speaker 1: are up against around.

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Speaker 2: The division here in the off season.

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Speaker 1: Reminder, now, we've got conversations with more great guests here

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Speaker 1: at the Combine, and we'll be giving those on future podcasts.

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Speaker 1: The last Word and more Combine Conversation podcasts as well.

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Speaker 1: But that's it for this installment of Combined Conversations. I'm

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Speaker 1: Matt Taylor, and we'll talk to you next time here

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Speaker 1: the Colts Audio Network