1 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: This the one Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. 2 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 2: It's the day you've been waiting for for over four months. 3 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 1: Look at it. 4 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: Kansas City Union Station. The countdown is on and their 5 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 2: clock is wrong. 6 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: Well, I think this was taped earlier. 7 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: Let's go. We're ready. Uh what are we? Seven hours away? 8 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 3: Had a buddy call me today. He said, you know, 9 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 3: it's like Christmas Eve of the NFL season. 10 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: It is it? 11 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: Really is it? 12 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: This is the official mark of the new league year. 13 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: A lot of people, you know, technically it's the start 14 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: of free agency. That's when the new league year begins. 15 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: As far as having your books done and getting your 16 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: under the salary cap and all. 17 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: Of that, it's bookkeepings. 18 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: But this is this is about where the rosters begin a. 19 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: New This is the football end of it. This is fun. 20 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: A free agency is fun and. 21 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: A little bit of a peak into the future of 22 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: your team. 23 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 3: But here's the thing. You this is obviously very different 24 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 3: from free agency because you're definitely gonna get somebody, right, 25 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 3: I mean, you're you're gonna get somebody this draft and 26 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 3: you got six picks and it could turn into seven 27 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 3: or whatever, depending on how it moves up. 28 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: Last year. 29 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 3: Don't forget, folks. Last year nine trades were made in 30 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: the in the first round. Nine that is awesome. 31 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and. 32 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: Last year and the first one that happens. The mock 33 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: drafts all go out the window anyway. 34 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: Last year, most of those nine trades happen later in 35 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,919 Speaker 2: the round, after pick twenty, with the quarterbacks in play here, 36 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: I think the general consensus is more of the jockeying 37 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: for position will take place in the top half of 38 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: the round, although the last six or seven picks could 39 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 2: get very interesting depending on what's on the board when 40 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: we get down there later tonight. And no doubt the 41 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 2: Bills are part of that mix. And as Brandon being 42 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: told us last week or week and a half ago, 43 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: right around pick twenty is when they'll begin to have 44 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: an idea as to whether or not they're going to 45 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: have somebody there when they pick, whether they got to 46 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: get up because the number of first round grades are 47 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: dwindling fast, or if they have to get out of 48 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: that round completely and hope they can find a trade partner. 49 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: So that's the problem. 50 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 3: I think a lot of Bills fans have said it 51 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 3: over the conversations we've had Bills fans be perfectly happy 52 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 3: if they get an extra pick and move out and 53 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: go to like thirty four, thirty seven, forty, whatever. 54 00:02:58,520 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: The pick might be. 55 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 3: If you track trade out of the first round, the 56 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 3: problem isn't the Bill's willingness to do it. It's somebody 57 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 3: else's willingness to go into the first round. Right If 58 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 3: there's nobody there that the Bills like at that pick, 59 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: what makes you think there's gonna be something there that 60 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 3: a ton of teams think is worth that pick. 61 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 2: Because of the widest variance of opinion that we have 62 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: seen in a long time. 63 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,399 Speaker 1: The deeper you get into the draft, the wider the variants. 64 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: Well, and not only that, I just think the class 65 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: as a whole, Steve NFL Networks ian Rapaport tweeted the following, 66 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 2: In the words of one GM, it's the most unpredictable 67 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: draft in forever, and it's because there are maybe the 68 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: fewest number of sure fire, elite, plan't miss guys than 69 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: we've seen in several years, and that leads to a 70 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: wider range of opinions. There's gonna be teams that are 71 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: absolutely in love with somebody that another team wouldn't take 72 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: until after pick fifty, right. 73 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 3: I was talking to guys up upstairs a little bit 74 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 3: and they said, yeah, the easiest thing is that you 75 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: get in the second half of they're outside the top 76 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: ten or in the bottom third of the first round, 77 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: and you'll have somebody picking a guy, And certainly in 78 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 3: the second round. It happens, you'll have somebody picking somebody 79 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 3: in the second round that you had on your free 80 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: agent list, like it was a rookie free a you're 81 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 3: gonna sign them. 82 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: I really don't get drafted. 83 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 3: That kind of stuff happens, and plus he goes, he goes, 84 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 3: we can't even you know, you'll have debates in your 85 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 3: own war room over what's the difference between a fifth 86 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: round pick and a seventh round pick? Or if you 87 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 3: go closer to the top of the draft, it becomes wow, 88 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: yeah you can't do. 89 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: But in the bottom of the it's like, what's the difference? 90 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 3: Right, So you start getting deeper into the draft, and 91 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 3: it's a roulette wheel. Bro a roulette wheel, it is, 92 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 3: and you have no choice but to put all your 93 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 3: chips on one number. So it's the way it works. 94 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 2: So as we get set for a round one tonight, 95 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: the latest goings on regarding the picks and who could 96 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: be going where. It still seems that all of the 97 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 2: Bryce Young talk is in fact gonna hold true tonight 98 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,119 Speaker 2: and he will be the first pick off the board 99 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: to Carolina. After that, it gets pretty interesting. There are 100 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: some people who maintain that the Texans are not in 101 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: love with the other quarterbacks in the class and may 102 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 2: pass at pick two. I think it's cuckoo for Cocoa 103 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: puff Steve. I mean, you need a quarterback you're drafting second, 104 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 2: Take the guy, like take your I mean you have 105 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: three that you know people wouldn't look at your cross 106 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 2: eyed if you took any one of those three, and 107 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: to take a defensive player, especially when you have the 108 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: twelfth pick in a class that's deep at edge rusher also, like. 109 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, you take the quarterback at two, 110 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: you ain't getting them at twelve. 111 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: You might not get any of them at twelve, right, 112 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: So to me, the quarterback, yes, ede rusher is a 113 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: premium position also, but you know how fast the quarterbacks go. 114 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: Their value gets inflated every year because people are so 115 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: desperate to land one. I think if you pass on 116 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 2: quarterback at two, you're not getting one of the next 117 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 2: two guys that you wanted at twelve. I just it's 118 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: flat out not happening. I'd be very surprised. 119 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: You got to look. 120 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: You just go down and you look at the order 121 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 3: that the drafts in Houston, Carolina, Houston, Indianapolis all need 122 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 3: a quarterback, and they're three of the first four picks. 123 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 3: Arizona is open for business to trade, so you could see, 124 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 3: even we've seen it, Indianapolis will flip flop with Arizona 125 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 3: or somebody, or to keep somebody from leap frogging them. 126 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 3: So to keep the Detroit Lions or the Raiders or 127 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 3: the falcon whoever you take your pick from leapfrogging them 128 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 3: back up into the first round, up in the top 129 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 3: three to get the guy they want, particularly if Carolina 130 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 3: and Houston pick, or like if Anthony Richardson's on the board, 131 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 3: somebody may say Richardson's the guy. He's gonna be good. 132 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: You know, the Josh Allen syndrome. This guy is not 133 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 3: good and he had thirteen starts in college. There's a 134 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 3: ton of stuff they don't know about him, but man, 135 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: oh man, they know the guy is a is a 136 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 3: real athlete with a big arm and a great and 137 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: a great work ethic. They've already seen evidence that he's 138 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 3: gotten better and better and better and better, like they 139 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 3: could jot us right, So there's a guy that's gonna 140 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 3: get better. 141 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: Let's get him now. 142 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: Of course, the thirteen starts may concern some people because 143 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 2: you know who else had only thirteen starts in his 144 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: college career? Who? Mitchell Trubisky? 145 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: I get that. 146 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a roll of the die, It's no question 147 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 3: it is. But you got to know, you know, I mean, 148 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 3: you get your due diligence. They're all different. I've said 149 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 3: it before. They may play the same position, but all 150 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: four of these guys are five guys that we're talking about. 151 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: They're all different guys. 152 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: So the teams with the AMMO to be movers and 153 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: shakers tonight, Houston with this second and the twelfth pick, 154 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: Philadelphia at ten and thirty, Seattle at five and twenty. 155 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: And I want to say, there's one other team with 156 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: two picks in the round. Let me look at my 157 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: sheet here really quick so I can double check on that. 158 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: It's Philly, it's Seattle, it's Houston. Somebody else have two 159 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 2: picks in the round. Uh, maybe not maybe that's it. 160 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's it. Chargers were not there, you know, 161 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: that's it. 162 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: We're good. Those three teams have two picks. Those teams 163 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 2: could be movers and shakers just with the draft capital 164 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: they have at their disposal. The other thing to note, 165 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: ESPN's Diana Rossini with this, and it comes as no surprise, 166 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: she's reporting that I'm told the Arizona Cardinals are currently 167 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 2: mulling trade offers from multiple teams interested in moving to 168 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: number three. Overall, I think we all felt and I 169 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 2: wrote this on Buffalo bills dot com top five things 170 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 2: to watch for in the draft. Pick number three. Three 171 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: is really the first pivot point of the draft because 172 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 2: even if Houston takes a quarterback too, that could prompt 173 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 2: people to get up to three that need one because 174 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: they're like, oh boy, two are already off the board. 175 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: If I'm going to get one, I gotta get up 176 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 2: to three now yea or yeah. Or if Houston takes 177 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 2: a defensive player, now there's more quarterback talent to be had. 178 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 2: We didn't think that guy would be there. Let's go 179 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: get him now and trade up to three. So Arizona 180 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: is really in the catbird seat here and as we 181 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: talk to some of the people you know that know 182 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: the draft and roster building, They've all agreed with us. 183 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: One player at pick three is not going to change 184 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: the fortunes of the Arizona Cardinals. It would behoove them 185 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: to trade out, get as many picks as possible and 186 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 2: hope that six players that they draft can make a 187 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 2: difference for their team this coming year. 188 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 3: Right, you could get conceivably three to four picks for 189 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 3: that number three pick from the right team. 190 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: Know where they're gonna be. 191 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: They well, if somebody's coming from way down the board. Yeah, Like, 192 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 2: if you've got a ball, you got a Baltimore team 193 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 2: that wants to come up from twenty two and take 194 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: Anthony richards Anthony Richardson and say, well, this is Lamar's 195 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 2: last year and in Raven's uniform, he's gone after this year, 196 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: and then we'll roll with him. You know. Then yeah, 197 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 2: you could you could have a king's ransom for that. 198 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: So yeah, I really think Baltimore and Minnesota are kind 199 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: of lying in the weeds here as quarterback teams. They 200 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 2: don't need a quarterback this year, per se, But in 201 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, I would say the Vikings almost definitely Doe. 202 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: They're done with cousins. Come on, the guy's been productive, 203 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: but he hasn't won a darn thing in his entire career. 204 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: Yeah he's not. 205 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he didn't even win the Minneapolis Miracle game. 206 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 3: That was case case Keenum did that one. Yeah, I 207 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 3: get it. I don't think the Raiders are satisfied. Are 208 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 3: gonna be satisfied. 209 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: I mean, they got Garoppolo, but he's essentially on a 210 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: one year deal. I mean it was a three year contract. 211 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 3: But they're sitting in seven. So the Raiders, so what 212 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 3: are they hoping somebody drops? 213 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 4: Like? 214 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 3: I mean, Hendon Hooker will be there at seven. He's 215 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: a twenty five year old guy. It's going to be 216 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 3: a rookie. But he had an ACL tear. But he 217 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 3: showed some real to me, showed some real promise before 218 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 3: he got injured. There are some people who questioned the 219 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 3: offense that they were running at Tennessee that Hendon Hooker 220 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 3: was a part of, but he was very productive in it. 221 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: And I know this. 222 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 3: The head coach of the Raiders thinks he can make 223 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 3: just about anybody a really good quarterback, even though he's 224 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 3: been proving wrong time and time again. So he's got 225 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 3: a lot of confidence in his coaching ability. So he 226 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 3: could know having Garoppolo there for a year with Hendon 227 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 3: Hooker on ice for that first year sets him up 228 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 3: for the future and really gives him some job security 229 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 3: that he may not deserve after what happened last year. 230 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: M you know, they get it. 231 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 3: They'll give him another year because oh he's got this guy, 232 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 3: the plans coming together. It's what he we thought it was. 233 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 3: We knew we got Garoppolo is just gonna be an 234 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 3: okay guy, and that's what he was. So here we 235 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 3: go that you know what I mean that that kind 236 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 3: of long term thinking could get Josh McDaniels to his 237 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 3: third year. 238 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: Well, also, let's not forget that the Raiders are not 239 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: exactly flush with liquidity. They're still paying John Gruden ten 240 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: million a year to not coach for them. It was 241 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 2: a ten year, one hundred million dollar contract. There's about 242 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: four or five years left on that thing. 243 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: I remember, So well, yeah, they yeah. 244 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: They fired him. He didn't resign. He's no dummy. He's 245 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: not going to resign in four to fifth sixty million dollars. 246 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 2: So they're paying that guy ten million year do you 247 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 2: think they want to fire Josh McDaniels pay another coach 248 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 2: to not coach for them. I can't see it. I 249 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 2: think he's going to get all the rope that he wants. 250 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: We have to look at some other things regarding the 251 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 2: draft and what could impact some team's choices. Jaguars starting 252 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 2: left tackle Cam Robinson is going to be suspended for 253 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: violations of the league's substance abuse policy. The number of 254 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: games that he will miss was not disclosed. The Jags 255 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: already lost starting right tackle Juwan Taylor in free agency 256 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: this spring. Now they do have twenty twenty one second 257 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: round pick Walker Little, who was penciled in to be 258 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: the starting right tackle for this upcoming season, but now 259 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 2: he'll presumably have to start on the right side in 260 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: the absence of Robinson, at least to start the year. 261 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 2: Do you think this prompts the Jags to lean a 262 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 2: little bit more toward offensive tackle if the value is 263 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: right at pick twenty four, Oh yeah, right. 264 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: They gotta do something. The draft makes a lot of sense. 265 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: I mean, they can still go out on the free 266 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 3: agent market, but if there was a really good free 267 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 3: agent left tackle out there, he's he wouldn't be there. Yeah, 268 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 3: if he was that good, Yeah, they've got to I 269 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 3: mean that. So if you're the Bills sitting there, that's 270 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 3: another to me, that's another uncertainty that's made more certain 271 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 3: by the team's just ahead of you. 272 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: And I don't I don't pretend to know how many 273 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: game Sames Cam Robinson is gonna miss. But let's not 274 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: forget last year at this time, DeAndre Hopkins was suspended 275 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 2: for six Saints the first six games of the season. 276 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: So it's a chunk. 277 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a thirty year season. I mean that's a 278 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 2: big chunk. 279 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: Yes, it's a big chunk. 280 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: So especially for a Jacksonville team that's trying to take 281 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: the next step after making the playoffs last year, the 282 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: winning a playoff game. 283 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 3: They won a playoff game last year, so they're they're 284 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 3: feeling pretty good. 285 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: And that's an important position. 286 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's it's a crusher for them to get 287 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: hit like that. But like I said, for the rest 288 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 3: of the league and how it affects them, despite what 289 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 3: happens on the field with who is who is or 290 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 3: who is not playing left tackle for him, it's a 291 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 3: certainty that they've got to fix it. Before the season starts. 292 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 3: And here we are at the draft. So you know 293 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 3: this pick now is a twenty four to twenty third 294 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 3: twenty fourth, three spots ahead of the Bills. There is 295 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 3: a certainty that one of those offensive tackles is going 296 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 3: to be gone. So if the Bills are down there 297 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 3: to where they've got like two tackles left, are they 298 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 3: gonna let the Jaguars pick one and then hope that 299 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 3: the Giants and the Cowboys don't. 300 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe if. 301 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: They they'll sit there. If they have five prospects that 302 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 2: they like, right, and if they happen to get a tackle, well, great, 303 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 2: If there's. 304 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: Five, that's great. If there's two, it's not. 305 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: Even five tackles. I'm just saying five prospects that they like, 306 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: tackle defense, whatever. If they have five guys they like 307 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: with grades in that neighborhood, and you know the Jags 308 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 2: are doing whatever they're doing at twenty four and you're 309 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: only three picks away, you're just gonna stay where you 310 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 2: are because you know you're gonna get at least one 311 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: guy that fits your value, no matter what position. 312 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 3: I think I think more likely though, they're gonna they're 313 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 3: gonna look at that and they say, okay, noose, those 314 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 3: guys are gonna take an offensive lineman. We've got three 315 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 3: prospects left. One of them is an offensive lineman, one 316 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 3: of them is what a line wide receiver, and the 317 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 3: other one is whatever. So that's where they and then 318 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 3: they got to look at the Giants and the Cowboys. 319 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 3: Is what those guys are gonna take. So if they 320 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 3: got three picks left, and there's three picks ahead of them, 321 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 3: and you know one of them is gonna be that 322 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 3: offensive lineman, or maybe he's not. Because if the you know, 323 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 3: that's that's where you gotta go. You gotta take a 324 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 3: deep breath and say, just gotta wait. 325 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: You can't know what you don't know. You can surmise 326 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 2: what you think, you know. 327 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 3: You can make some You've got to think right now 328 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: as we're talking, because this is why this conversation is 329 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 3: going on. Jacksonville is picking an offensive lineman that's a 330 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 3: tackle specific right. That is where we're at right now. 331 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 3: So that is a little less uncertainty. I think, Okay, 332 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 3: the problem is you don't know if they're liking and 333 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 3: I'll say it again, you don't know if there guy's 334 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 3: gonna be cold, strange or Jackie Slater. Right, you don't 335 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 3: know if he's gonna be a guy that you really love, 336 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 3: a guy who's a Hall of Fame kind of guy, 337 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 3: or a guy that everybody's like laughing at you. 338 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 2: Range has been our veritable whipping boy for the better 339 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: part of the last three months. He's the poster child 340 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 2: for it's been criticizing the Patriots. Bryce Young Steve has 341 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 2: signed with the Jordan Brand ahead of the NFL Draft, 342 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: so he's not even the first pick yet, and Young 343 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 2: has signed with them. According to reports, he has a 344 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 2: shot to become the face of the Jordan Brand's football 345 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 2: division moving forward, provided he lives up to the hype. 346 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 2: I wonder what the outs in that contract are for 347 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: the Jordan Brand, Like, yeah, we'll still send your shirts 348 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 2: and shoes, but you won't be doing any commercials if 349 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 2: you flop, you know what I mean? How does that 350 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 2: language read in the contract? They'd be very curious to 351 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: see that. Hey, if you're great, we're with. 352 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 3: You, but if you stink, we'll pay you this much 353 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 3: for commercials, this much for your name and likeness, and 354 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 3: we'll give you and what it used to be for 355 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 3: the contracts when I was playing for the shoe contracts. 356 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 3: They go here, and we'll give you umpteen amounts of 357 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 3: money towards gear. It's free, it's free. 358 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 2: Credit. 359 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you get, you get he'll probably you. 360 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: Know, he'll a line of credit for gear. 361 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, here's your here's the catalog. Pick what you want. 362 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 3: It's on us kind of thing. And you know, you 363 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 3: do it for your friends and your family and all that, 364 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 3: and everybody's all fat and happy thinking they're It's true, man, 365 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 3: it's the best thing for the family where you send 366 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 3: them the catalog and get whatever you want. 367 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: They absolutely it's you know, Christmas in July. 368 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 2: So read an interesting note on Yahoo Sports this morning, 369 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 2: and it's about the number two overall pick since nineteen 370 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 2: ninety seven, not counting last year's draft, so that's about 371 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 2: twenty five years, fifty six percent of the number two 372 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 2: overall picks have been busts. If you're their criteria was, 373 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: if you're the number two overall pick, you've got to 374 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 2: have put up at least one all pro season or 375 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: win two Super Bowls, one or the other. That's the 376 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: criteria that they went with. Fifty six percent bust rate. 377 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 2: Are you ready, Steve to run down memory? Lane of 378 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 2: the number two picks in the last ten years. 379 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 3: That's that's a pretty high bar. You got to be 380 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 3: an All Pro or win two Super Bowl. 381 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 2: One All Pro naming. You're the second pick in the. 382 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 3: Draft, guy, Yeah, but you're playing for the Cleveland Browns. 383 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 3: All right, Well you're playing you're playing for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Well, 384 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 3: you're playing for the Arizona Cardinals. All of these teams 385 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 3: that suck. You got to be an All Pro for 386 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 3: those guys. 387 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: Thanks a lot. 388 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let's go down memory lane here of the 389 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 2: number two overall picks for the last ten years or so. 390 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 2: Are you ready? 391 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: Go ahead? 392 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 2: So last year was Aiden Hutchinson. He's not part of 393 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: this pool, but looks like he's gonna be a pretty 394 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 2: good player. 395 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 3: Yeah good, it's not good enough, bro, he's a bust, 396 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 3: but right now he's a bust. 397 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: Well, okay, you by the standard. 398 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty one, right, number two overall pick, Zach Wilson. 399 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: All right, that's a bit alright, I'll give you. 400 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 2: That's twenty twenty number two overall pick. Chase Young missed 401 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 2: all of last year. 402 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 3: He had an injury, so you kind of get a 403 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 3: pass and they did not pack, they did not pick 404 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 3: up his and now he's supposed to win two super 405 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 3: Bowls with that franchise or go. 406 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: To the once. Think about that. 407 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: He should be able to be an All pro once. 408 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 2: I would think, provided he gets through a season healthy. 409 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: Twenty nineteen, Nick Bosa to San Francisco? 410 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: Is he now? Is he a bust? Nobody's thinking he's 411 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: a bust. 412 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: Number two pick? In twenty eighteen Saquon Barkley, Okay. 413 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: Injured, but yes, he's a He's a dynamite player. 414 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: Number two pick? 415 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: Was he a bust? 416 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 2: Twenty seventeen? I think he was an All Pro that 417 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 2: one year he had that he was healthy. Number two 418 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: overall pick twenty seventeen Mitchell Trubisky, all right. Twenty sixteen 419 00:20:54,720 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 2: draft number two overall pick Carson Wentz twenty. 420 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: That number two over won one Super Bowl? 421 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 2: Well did he really win? 422 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: He was a hot MVP level through eleven games of 423 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: that season before he got hurt. 424 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 2: Twenty fifteen draft number two overall pick Marcus Mariota. 425 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: All right, that's a bust. 426 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 3: Twenty all three of the bus, the absolute surefire Bus, 427 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 3: have all been quarterbacks so far. 428 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 2: Twenty fourteen NFL draft number two overall pick Greg Robinson 429 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 2: tackle the Saint Louis twenty thirteen. 430 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 3: Draft, No idea about great, but he did win If 431 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 3: he's with Saint Louis, he did he win a championship? 432 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 2: Well, if he was there long enough? Okay, twenty what 433 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: are we up to? Twenty thirteen draft second pick Luke 434 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 2: Jokal to Jacksonville offensive tackle, second pick. Twenty twelve draft 435 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 2: Robert Griffin the. 436 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: Third See another quarterback that busts? 437 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 2: Twenty eleven Von Miller, How about that? 438 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 3: That guy's no bus no two championships and a bunch 439 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 3: of All pros. He's a Hall of Famer. 440 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 2: Twenty ten and Domakan Sue who won a Super Bowl 441 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 2: with Tampa and the RAM And he's been all pro. 442 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: He was with Rams, wasn't he No, wait, he's been 443 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: all pro, so he's yes, he's very good. 444 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 2: Twenty ten offensive tackle Jason Smith to Saint Louis. I 445 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 2: had no idea that, or sorry, there was two thousand 446 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 2: and nine, two thousand and eight, Chris Long, he's won 447 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: two Super bowl he's a good player. Yeah, he's won 448 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 2: two super Bowls, so he fits the bill. So you 449 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 2: see what I'm getting at here. 450 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: It's just a high bar bro two. 451 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 2: Thousand and seven was a winner. Oh Calvin Johnson, Yeah, 452 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 2: he's a Hall of Famer. Yep, that'll work that guy. 453 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 2: Think about that for a minute. He had a forty 454 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 2: five inch vertical. I don't think I've seen that. 455 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 3: I remember standing on the sidelines of the preseast because 456 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 3: the Bills, you know, when when Ralph was still around, 457 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 3: they played the Lions. 458 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: Every year in the preseason season, right, it was like 459 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: the Detroit thing. 460 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 3: So I'm standing there on the sidelines and Calvin Johnson 461 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 3: comes out. His butt is as high as my chest. 462 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 2: He a't he is. 463 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: He was freakishly big, freakishly big. 464 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but where does a guy that big and long 465 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 2: have the right to run four to three to jump 466 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 2: forty five inches? Like, think about that. You could stack 467 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 2: a You could almost put a four foot human under 468 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 2: him when he jumps up in the air. 469 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: Think about oh yeah, yeah, yeah, not right, that's like that. 470 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 3: Never never mind the fact that he could, you know, 471 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 3: when he jumps, he could bring his legs up, he 472 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 3: could jump two legged up on he could jump over 473 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 3: an automobile and never touch it. 474 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 2: That's not right. Sorry, that's just that is not right. 475 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 3: It's it's the the athleticism is unbelieving. He could outrun 476 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 3: anybody on the field. Just yeah, unbelievable. 477 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: So that yeah, that's so we are here him. Yeah, 478 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: we are two Hall of famers in there, Vaughan and 479 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: and Calvin Johnson. 480 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 2: And there's other guys with some potential to maybe but yeah, 481 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 2: but more often than not, when these teams miss at 482 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 2: pick two, it's a quarterback. 483 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: And I'll say this too, pick two is not pick one. Yeah. 484 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 2: And it was interesting because the premise of the write 485 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 2: up said, when you're not picking first and you don't 486 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 2: have the pick of the litter, yeah, but you pick second. 487 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 2: The human, the natural human reaction is you're gonna press. 488 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: You can press a little bit. Well, we didn't get 489 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 2: that guy, but we gotta get the next guy. And 490 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: then and then you press and maybe you force the issue. 491 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 2: That's some of the theory involved there. I don't know 492 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 2: how legitimate that is, but for somebody or like or like, 493 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: you just automatically press because you know you're not getting 494 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 2: the top guy, but we gotta get the next best guy. 495 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: It's this guy. 496 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: Let's I'll say this too. 497 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 3: There's some and I think most people can relate to 498 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 3: this a little bit anyway, where when you come out 499 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 3: as you can picture yourself being pictured as this marquee 500 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 3: name without ever earning it. You just you show up right, 501 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 3: You're the number one pick. It's like Aaron Rodgers going. 502 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: To the Jets. The pressure is like ratcheted up. 503 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you can imagine the effect it has on 504 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 3: a twenty one to twenty two year old kid of 505 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 3: coming into a city and all of a sudden being 506 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 3: bigger than the mayor. You know, I mean this guy is, 507 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you are everybody's favorite person in 508 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 3: the entire city. It's it affects you mentally, and I 509 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 3: think the pressure on it, plus how the team handles it, 510 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 3: the leadership inside the building, your teammates, being the first 511 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 3: pick of the draft, You're coming to a team that stinks. 512 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 3: There's a lot in that that affects you, and it 513 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 3: can affect you in a positive way where you come 514 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 3: in and say, I'm gonna earn, I'm gonna make these 515 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 3: people so glad I'm that guy, or you're gonna be 516 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 3: like they better jump because I'm you know, it's them 517 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 3: not me. Now I'm here it's a mindset. It's a 518 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 3: mindset and that's why, and it affects them and that's. 519 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 2: Why these teams dig into that stuff so much, the 520 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 2: character background, the upbringing. How were you molded and shaped 521 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 2: as a human being not a player? What are your 522 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 2: parents like, what's your family situation do you have? You 523 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 2: have older brothers and sisters? How did they treat like. 524 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: Hey, you played with him? What's he like? 525 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? 526 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: You know, that's all of that goes on, And it 527 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 1: didn't that. 528 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 2: Started that mindset though, Yeah, talking about it started. 529 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 3: Happening back in the late eighties, early nineties, pollyon you 530 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 3: you know, back then, and everybody kind of starts getting 531 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 3: the best practices together at kind of at the same time. 532 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 3: Somebody comes up with an idea, we should do this, 533 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 3: and somebody goes, hey, man, that's a good idea. So 534 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 3: back in the day, you can remember, they were paying 535 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 3: guys lots of money as a first round pick, whether 536 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 3: they deserved it or not, you know what I mean. 537 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: It was just it was part of the deal that 538 00:26:58,359 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: was so out of whacked. 539 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 3: They finally fixed it, right, It was just crazy, right, 540 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 3: So they're right, So the team started thinking listen, We're 541 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 3: spending multimillion dollars and we don't know these kids. How 542 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 3: about we spend a little money, hire some experts to 543 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 3: come in and get a personality interview, start finding out 544 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 3: who and what these guys are. It started way back then, 545 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 3: and now obviously it's commonplace everybody interviews these guys and 546 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 3: get an intelligence tests. 547 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: They got a new and improved S two test that 548 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: they like even better than the wonder lick. They got. 549 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 3: All this stuff is they spend money on it so 550 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 3: they don't waste bigger money or that they have a 551 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 3: chance to make bigger money by having a star on 552 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 3: their team that gives them, you know, home run ticket sales. 553 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 554 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 3: So that this is all hugely important because of just 555 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 3: what we were talking about. When they get picked high 556 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 3: in the draft, you cannot be unaffected by it. 557 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: But is it a positive or a negative? And you 558 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: got to find that out. 559 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,959 Speaker 2: Gonna have some fun with you today here on our 560 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 2: Draft Day edition of One Bills Live. Who do you 561 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 2: want the Bills to pick in Round one of tonight's 562 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 2: NFL Draft? 563 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: Who's your guy? 564 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 2: We got to Draft Day. You gotta whittle it down 565 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 2: to your number one preferred prospect coming to the Bills roster? 566 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 2: Who is your player for the Bills at twenty seven? 567 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: You can let us know at eight oh three oh 568 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 2: five point fifty local number to get on board one 569 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 2: eight eight eight five point fifty two five fifty toll 570 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: free number if you're calling from outside the calling the 571 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: local calling area, or you can hit us up on 572 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 2: the tweets sheet at one Bill's Live. Who do you 573 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: want the Bills to pick in Round one of tonight's 574 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: NFL Draft? Who is your personal favorite and best fit 575 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: we for your Bills. 576 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 3: We had a little remembrance today the guys in the 577 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 3: control room. I reminded them and they said they remembered 578 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 3: that last year when with the Bills were on the clock, 579 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 3: you picked Kyri Elim. You and I picked Kyrie Elim. 580 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 3: Remember when they were on the clock. When they were 581 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 3: on the clock, I said, that's the guy they're gonna pick. 582 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 2: And we were right. I don't think it was too hard. 583 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 2: He was like the last good corner on that. 584 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, And then they had and then we got to 585 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 3: round two and both of us picked James Cook. 586 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: We hit on James Cook. So we had that going. 587 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 3: But we were on the we were sitting here doing 588 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 3: the show, and you almost could feel it when we 589 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 3: got to that point, right and they were like, what 590 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 3: were they picking last year? Twenty fifth and moved up 591 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 3: to twenty three, right, named up to twenty three. 592 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, so. 593 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, they've I mean, everybody's got their favorite for 594 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 2: the Bills at twenty seven. You let us know what 595 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: your favorite is. Eight oh three, oh five fifty one 596 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: eight eight eighty five fifty two five fifty number to 597 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 2: get on board. Steve and I will step aside here, 598 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 2: but we'll be back with your phone calls when we return. 599 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 2: One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. This is Buffalo 600 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 2: Bills Radio on Draft Day. 601 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 5: The Buffalo Bills Select. 602 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 6: Welcome to Bill's Mafia. Rookie, Welcome to a culture that 603 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 6: has turned what was once an afterthon into a decination. 604 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 5: Way to play. 605 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 6: Sure, the weather gets a little cold or windy, or 606 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 6: snowy or all three, but the city of good neighbors 607 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 6: in the stands will be the city of good neighbors 608 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 6: in the streets, the city of good neighbors never seen 609 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 6: anything like it. Whether you're a kid from a farm 610 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 6: and fireball Josh Allen Quart, a kid from the sunny 611 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 6: skies of Miami. 612 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 5: Bill's mafia has chosen James Cook or. 613 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 6: A kid from just outside of Nashville. 614 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 2: Knocks. 615 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 7: They was a fair Dowson Knocks. 616 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: If you embrace them, they will embrace you. 617 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 6: It's not gonna come easy. Nothing good ever does. 618 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: The light shines on those who come through at pir City. 619 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 6: But in Buffalo, we embrace the process and all that 620 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 6: comes with them. The Buffalo Bills have selected you because 621 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,719 Speaker 6: they believe in you. Now it's time to show the mafia. 622 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 2: Why no give me the chicken skin. Let's go goosebuss. 623 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 2: That was Dawson Knox and that will be the message 624 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: to whoever the first round draft choice is tonight. How 625 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 2: about that? 626 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 3: It's like every year and because mafia, the Bills Mafia, 627 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 3: they considered it family. And I've said it a bunch 628 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 3: on this show. One of the things about that is 629 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 3: that there's a level of affection that fans not only 630 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 3: have for their team, like every fan base, but there's 631 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 3: a level of affection for each other. As you go 632 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 3: around the country, as it go builds it, you know, 633 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 3: they kind of embrace each other and there's a friendship, 634 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 3: the kinship there that is deeper and more pride soaked 635 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 3: than a lot of other fan bases. They like each other. Certainly, 636 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 3: there's you know, obvious knucklehead exceptions, but that's kind of 637 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 3: the atmosphere in which you come to. And so I 638 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 3: say it every year at this time, the Mafia is 639 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 3: getting another family member today. And I said it to 640 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 3: a guy when the Bills were playing a Monday night game, 641 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 3: I think it was against the Packers this year. It 642 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 3: was an ESPN game or whatever, and I was talking 643 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 3: to a guy I know, Mike Golick, who was from 644 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 3: Mike and Mike. He and I were drafted together by 645 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 3: the Houston Oilers. We're reminiscing and I was asking about 646 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 3: his family. He was catching up with mine and I 647 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 3: and I, you know, I told him my wife and 648 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 3: I we've been here ever since I left you and 649 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 3: the Oilers in eighties. And he said, you know, so 650 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 3: you're kind of he was talking about me and Jim 651 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 3: Kelly and Thurman and you know how we live here. 652 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 3: He says, you're kind of Buffalo royalty, aren't you football worldy? 653 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 3: And I was like, no, no, it's better than that. 654 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 3: I'm family not royalty. We're family and so that that's 655 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 3: kind of put it in perspective for me. And that's 656 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 3: what we're getting tonight with these kids. Some guy is 657 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 3: gonna get you know, like you're going to the pound 658 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 3: and you're gonna get a new dog, right, I mean, 659 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 3: this is it. 660 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: Let's go, let's go choose him. 661 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 2: Which one? I hope he's a dog? Whoever write it? 662 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 3: Which one is it gonna be? And so is it 663 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 3: gonna be one of the big guys or is it 664 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 3: gonna be one of the athletes? So what are we 665 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 3: gonna get? And so that's the fun part about this. 666 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 3: That's why it's like it's like Christmas Eve today around here, right. 667 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 2: And we're asking you what Christmas gift you want under 668 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 2: the tree for the Bills at pick twenty seven. Who 669 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 2: is your player of preference for the Bills tonight in 670 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 2: Round one? Leading us off today, Tim in north Tonawanda, 671 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 2: what do you got for a s? Tim? 672 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 8: Oh? 673 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 9: I want Darnel Washington all the way. 674 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 10: But I think they're gonna go after Brian Breese. 675 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 2: I've been Washington draft since you had hair and Steve 676 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 2: was a rookie. Yeah, and it's been a long time 677 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 2: since I've had hair, Tim, so well, let's. 678 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 11: Tells you how old I am too. 679 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 4: It wasn't even on TV when I started. 680 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, all right, Darnell Washington, you know it's ah. 681 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 2: I will say this, Tim. We know that Brandon Bean 682 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 2: loves elite physical traits and he certainly checks the boxes 683 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 2: for that, So I don't think that's an outlandish wish 684 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 2: to want. 685 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 3: Darnell Washington's also a big physical presence in the run 686 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 3: game as well. Yeah, you know, and you think about 687 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 3: a tight end and you want him to do some stuff, 688 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 3: and certainly this guy, Michael Mayer is a guy that 689 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 3: they say is the best tight end. But you talk 690 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 3: about the upside, Darnell Washington is upside. He's all upside. 691 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 2: I mean, the guy's high, high ceiling. 692 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: He's got a huge ceiling. 693 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 3: And right away, I mean, you don't need him to 694 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 3: come in and take Dawson Knox's place, but if you come, 695 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 3: if you bring him in the in the game, all 696 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 3: of a sudden, you may be running the football right 697 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 3: behind him because the guy is big. 698 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 2: Or if you're or if you're good at it, or 699 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 2: if you're in the red zone, you got two sequoias 700 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 2: to throw too right. I mean him and I mean 701 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 2: Dawson's no shrimp. He's six ' five and this kid's 702 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 2: six ' six. I mean, just throw it up to 703 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 2: one of those guys. Let's go back to the phones here, 704 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 2: Let's go to we got a lot of people to 705 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 2: get to. Let's go to Rick in South Buffalo next. 706 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 2: What you got for his Rick? 707 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 7: I have Jordan Addison usc Okay, love the kid. I 708 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 7: love his rout running ability, the fact that he was 709 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 7: productive with Kenny Pickett at Pittsburgh then moved to another system. 710 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 7: Learn the book. It just says that he has the 711 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 7: ability to be prepared right away to play in the NFL. 712 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. 713 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 2: What I like about him most is he seems to 714 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 2: have that like dog mentality, like he he wants to 715 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 2: like go get it every single time. He's ready to 716 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 2: get in the face of the dB. How concerned are you, though, Rick, 717 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,439 Speaker 2: that he's still gonna be there at twenty seven. 718 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 7: I think the way how the boards seems like it's 719 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 7: falling in most mock drafts, there is a good chance 720 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 7: he will be there. It seems like his forty time 721 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 7: wasn't as great as they wanted it. To be right, 722 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 7: So I think that might help out along in the 723 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 7: draft process for him to follow to Buffalo. I think 724 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 7: that he's more quick than he is fast, and that 725 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 7: often gets overlooked in. 726 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 9: The lot front offices. 727 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good call, and you're right. 728 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 3: Actually, the last mock draft that Bucky Brooks did, which 729 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 3: I saw today, he had the Bills taking Jordan Addison. 730 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 3: He was very, very productive at Pitt and given the 731 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 3: atmosphere in college football, you know this these days. He 732 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 3: went from Pitt for where he's a three year guy 733 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 3: and was a Blittanikoff Award winner, went to USC and 734 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 3: can I just say he probably did it because he 735 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 3: got a. 736 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 2: Pay raise, a right nil money, right, Yeah, And so. 737 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 3: He decided to go run, you know, go to USC, 738 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 3: play in the Pac twelve, play with a in a 739 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 3: different offense, with a different quarterback, and do what he 740 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,240 Speaker 3: can do. And certainly it didn't cost him much because 741 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 3: he's still on the on the radar. But yeah, he's 742 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 3: he's been mocked to the Bills multiple times, and really 743 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 3: multiple times in the last week and a half or 744 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 3: two weeks. Early on, nobody thought he would be there. 745 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 3: But now because of the way the rest of the 746 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 3: positions are falling. He has been mocked to the bills 747 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 3: more than on more than one occasion. 748 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, my concern is the LA Chargers at twenty one. 749 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 2: And one of the main reasons why is they have 750 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 2: two twenty million dollar receivers in Mike Williams and the 751 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 2: slot guy k thank you, thank you, Keenan Allen and 752 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 2: Keenan Allen's getting a little long in the tooth. And 753 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 2: add in the fact that there's a connection there from 754 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 2: his college days. So he was recruited heavily to pit 755 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 2: by their wide receivers coach, Chris Baide, and he is 756 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 2: now the wide receivers coach for the LA Chargers. So 757 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 2: if there's going to be anybody banging a table on 758 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,959 Speaker 2: Draft night, it's going to be the wide receivers coach 759 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 2: for the Chargers who recruited him at pitt with pick 760 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,919 Speaker 2: twenty one. So hopefully he's still there for your sake. 761 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 2: But I don't know if he's going to make it 762 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:21,959 Speaker 2: down to twenty seven. 763 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: I hope he does. 764 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 2: I'd be happy with him. Back to the phones and 765 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 2: to finger in California. What do you got for us? 766 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 6: Hey? 767 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 4: There, Chris, Steve lovely to talk to you guys, and 768 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 4: now you guys doing good and great, good good way. 769 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,720 Speaker 4: By the I honestly really want to see no picks 770 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 4: for Buffalo tonight. I'm really hoping to be unless they 771 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 4: have a first round a first round great on either 772 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 4: an offensive line guy or a tight end. I want 773 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 4: to trade back and get as many picks as I 774 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 4: can because we could definitely find the talent in the 775 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 4: later rounds for sure. 776 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 2: Right. 777 00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 11: I liked that on that end of it. 778 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 4: I just want to just say, really quick, on my 779 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 4: end of it, for the Aaron Rodgers trade to the 780 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 4: New Jersey Jets, if you will, I just laugh at it, 781 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 4: and I'll tell you why. You can always put maple 782 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 4: syrup and powdered sugar on a dog turd, but it's 783 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 4: still gonna taste like a dog turd, you know what 784 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 4: I mean. And not only that, the maple syrup and 785 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 4: the powdered sugar, they're expired, you know, So they can 786 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 4: make all this They could just make all this claim 787 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 4: that they're gonna be better and all, but with all 788 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 4: the things that we saw with Denver last year and 789 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 4: the way they're setting up to make the packers be 790 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 4: the Jets of the East. You know, I just have 791 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 4: no worries at all about Aaron Rodgers. I do worry 792 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 4: about the Dolphins though. They guys. I think they're gonna 793 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:44,919 Speaker 4: do a heck of a lot better and they're gonna 794 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 4: be the number two in the division, you know, under us. 795 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 4: As far as the draft is concerned, I really hope 796 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 4: unless we have a first round grade on an offensive tackle, 797 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 4: guard or a tight end, please just trade back and 798 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 4: get more picks. 799 00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 2: All right, sounds good, Thanks for the call. 800 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 1: I like to thought, and it's a real thing. 801 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 2: I think it's a possibility. 802 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: I think it is a possibility, and I would have 803 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: a problem with it. Either. 804 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 3: The more the wider net you can cast, the more 805 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 3: picks you can get, the better chance you have of 806 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 3: hitting on guys like Tarren Johnson, Gabe Davis and Matt 807 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 3: Mulano and guys like that. 808 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 2: So, and we know how tight this team is against 809 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 2: the cap. They need chick labor as much of it 810 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 2: as they can find, especially if it's of a high quality. 811 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 2: So if you get an extra two, I mean, people 812 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 2: have said all along, even though there's a wide variance 813 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 2: of opinion, maybe the widest we've seen in many years 814 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 2: on the prospects in this draft. The general consensus is 815 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 2: the meat and potatoes of this draft in terms of 816 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,479 Speaker 2: best value, is going to be on Day two, rounds 817 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 2: two and three. So if you get an extra pick 818 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,879 Speaker 2: in that range, you're probably doing yourself a favor. Let's 819 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 2: go back to the phones and to Joe in Rochester. 820 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 2: What do you got for us? 821 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 11: Joe, Hi, Christ and Steve. Great job, Thank you for 822 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 11: taking my call. Steve, you should be a Hall of Famer. 823 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 11: Deb's a nope, everyone knows it. My thing is, I 824 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 11: don't care who they picked tonight. I want d Hop 825 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 11: in a Buffalo Bill's uniform, and I want to take 826 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 11: a look at what they're gonna do on defense. When 827 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 11: you spread out Diggs, d Hop, Dawson, Knox, you have 828 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 11: James Cook, Naheim, Hines, and Harris in the backfield, Josh 829 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 11: being Josh. 830 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 4: Not to mention Jave Davis. 831 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 11: There's no one who could match up against us. So 832 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 11: have fun on Draft night, but make something happen for 833 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 11: de Hop. 834 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 9: And I think this is just like the. 835 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 11: Cornelius Benet trade. You bring him in we go to 836 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 11: the super Bowl. Steve, you even said when Cornelia's Benan 837 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,720 Speaker 11: walked in the locker room. You guys were like, holy smokes, 838 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 11: we're going to Super Bowl. I feel the same way 839 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 11: about de Hop. 840 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 2: That's how I feel, all right, Thanks, Joe, appreciate the call. 841 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you this and you're gonna have to 842 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,800 Speaker 2: wait with your answer until we come back because we 843 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 2: are up against the break here. Do you think a 844 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 2: d Hop trade is an if then scenario? What I 845 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 2: mean by that is, if the Bills get a receiver 846 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 2: in round one tonight or round two tomorrow, do you 847 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 2: think a d Hop trade is off the table? Or 848 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 2: if they don't get a receiver in either of those 849 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 2: two rounds, would that prompt a d Hop trade. We 850 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 2: will have Steve Tasker's answer to that question when we 851 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,399 Speaker 2: return here. On One Bill's Live presented by Klida Health, 852 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:45,399 Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Play hgtvs My Lottery Dream Home 853 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 2: scratch Off game from the New York Lottery for a 854 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 2: chance to win up to one dollars. Head to your 855 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 2: nearest retailer and find your dream home. Play responsibly. Please 856 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 2: must be eighteen plus. I know my wife's gonna be 857 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 2: grabbing one of those scratch offs. She watches more home 858 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 2: shows than you can shake a stick. Oh, the amount 859 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 2: of spin offs on HGTV is out of control. 860 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: But fix Her Upper now, they got it all started 861 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: with this old house. 862 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 2: Well yeah, Villa Bob Vila. But now it's you know, 863 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 2: he's the godfather of right now, it's fix Her Upper 864 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:24,720 Speaker 2: with Now they're combining. They're combining casts from different shows 865 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 2: to like work on a project together, like Hometown Makeovers. 866 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 1: And then it was, uh, yeah, what was the other 867 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 1: one where they did the move that bus? 868 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they do they redo a home in like 869 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 2: the weekend? 870 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, what is it? 871 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 3: What? 872 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 1: I can't remember the name of it? And Extream Homemaker, 873 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: Extream Home Makeover. 874 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 2: That's it. 875 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 3: And then you've got this old house you've got love 876 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 3: it or listed where they fix it up. 877 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: And they change it and they either love their new 878 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:49,760 Speaker 1: their old. 879 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,399 Speaker 2: Brothers property brothers does it does? 880 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 1: It's great? I love that stuff though, I really do. 881 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: I can't get enough of it. 882 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 2: I can because I get too much of it. 883 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,799 Speaker 1: I do get him patient. Let's just show me the before. 884 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you should watch it with my wife 885 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 2: because she says the same thing. Oh my gosh. 886 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 1: So you get to the end, yeah, of course. 887 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,800 Speaker 2: And then the worst part is that gives that gives 888 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 2: every woman out there the belief that any any husband 889 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 2: can do a complete room and remodel this in a 890 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 2: half an hour. You know what. 891 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 3: I do notice about that though, because they with Chip 892 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 3: and Joanna Gaines with their fixer upper. Yeah yeah, and 893 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 3: then same thing with the Property Brothers, and for sure 894 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 3: with Love. 895 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 1: It or Listen, I know all these shows. I can't 896 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: believe it anyway. So they get this house playing. 897 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 2: They got in here. 898 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 1: This is our budget. 899 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 3: So they spend whatever they spend fifty grand renovating it. Okay, 900 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 3: I'm not kidding you. They spend seventy five grand staging 901 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 3: the thing. They bring in two hundred thousand dollars worth 902 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 3: a brand new furniture and put it up there. 903 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 1: They got a van, which you can do with just 904 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: fifty k. They got a van go above the fireplace. 905 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,439 Speaker 3: The fireplace costs two grand, the van go it costs 906 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 3: five million, but it makes house, you know what I mean, 907 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 3: that's what they're doing. 908 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: The furniture costs more than the renovation does. When they stay. 909 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. 910 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 3: They got like a ten thousand dollars dining room table 911 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 3: and they're sweating over five hundred dollars difference on the 912 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 3: countertop prices. 913 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you talking about? So there's a 914 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 1: little bit of that going on. 915 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 2: Steve has giving this a lot of thought. I'd like 916 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 2: to give him more thought to, though, I like him 917 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 2: to give more thought to is the question we asked 918 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 2: before the break, which was do you believe a DeAndre 919 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:35,360 Speaker 2: Hopkins trade is an if then situation? The situation I 920 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 2: posed to Steve was if the Bills do not come 921 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 2: out of round one or two with a wide receiver, 922 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 2: is the trade then on? And if they do get 923 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 2: a receiver in round one or two, is the trade off? 924 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,320 Speaker 2: You think it's a Do you think a trade is 925 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 2: predicated on what whether or not the Bills can get 926 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,280 Speaker 2: a receiver in one of the first two rounds? 927 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it might. I think a little bit. 928 00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:58,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. 929 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna be like a flipping of 930 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 3: the ones and the two, like if the Bills give 931 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 3: Arizona the twenty seven pick and Arizona will give them 932 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 3: the thirty four pick or whatever it is. 933 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 1: I don't think it's quite that high. 934 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 3: Because they've got the Arizona's got thirty four and the 935 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:18,320 Speaker 3: Bills have twenty seven. 936 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: It would take about a third round. 937 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:21,839 Speaker 3: I think it would probably be if the Bills don't 938 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 3: get one at twenty seven, and if they don't get 939 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 3: one at fifty nine, then maybe yeah, the next pick, 940 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 3: the ninety one. 941 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 1: Pick, maybe that does go to Arizona for d Hop. 942 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 3: Okay, but by that time, yeah, I think I think 943 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,799 Speaker 3: it's gonna happen this weekend, if the trade's gonna happen 944 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 3: this draft, if it's gonna happen, and I do believe 945 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 3: there is an if then kind of scenario going on. 946 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 3: I think the Bills surely, sure they'd love to have 947 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,840 Speaker 3: d Hop on the team. And I think d Hop's 948 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 3: better than anybody in this draft. Right, He'll help them 949 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,399 Speaker 3: faster than any drafted player, even if he doesn't play, 950 00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 3: as long as that a drafted break could, right, So. 951 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 1: I think though the money's an issue, and fixing that 952 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 1: would be not insurmountable, but I think it does predict. 953 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 1: I think it is. 954 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 3: And if then, if the Bills don't get one of 955 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,879 Speaker 3: their guys at twenty seven or one of their guys 956 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 3: at fifty four, fifty nine to nine then Yeah, I 957 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,479 Speaker 3: think the de hop thing might happen. 958 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm inclined to think that as well, but we'll 959 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:26,879 Speaker 2: just have to wait and see. 960 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: But I think you're right. The cheap labor thing's big. Yeah. 961 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 2: Moving back. 962 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 963 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 2: In the meantime, we go back to the phones to 964 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 2: get your answer as to who your pick for the 965 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 2: Bills is at twenty seven tonight, who's your favorite? To 966 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 2: John and Buffalo, we go, who do you got? 967 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: John? 968 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Hi, guys, I'm gonna give you a mini quiz 969 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 2: real quick. 970 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 9: Okay, he was picked a Spiders football player in college, 971 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,839 Speaker 9: and he was a Buckers Award and he's a defensive player. 972 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 4: Who you got? 973 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,320 Speaker 2: That's I believe that's Jack Campbell. 974 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 4: You got it? 975 00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 1: You got it? 976 00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 9: Brother? 977 00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 8: Wait a right on, that's my guy. 978 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 4: He's a Matt Milano slash Edmunds clothe. Even Jay s 979 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 4: Kirsky said. 980 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,720 Speaker 1: That he's about as close to Edmunds as we're. 981 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 9: Going to get in this draft. 982 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 8: He's my pick. 983 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 1: I know you guys love offense, but I'll go with 984 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:12,359 Speaker 1: that kid. 985 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,359 Speaker 7: If he's available, I say, we grab him. 986 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:15,800 Speaker 1: What do you think I got? I like him. I 987 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:16,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't have a problem with it. 988 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 3: But I'll say this, him being the closest thing to 989 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 3: Tremaine Edmunds in this draft doesn't say much because everybody 990 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,280 Speaker 3: else in this draft's a smurf at linebacker, right except 991 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 3: Drew Sanders. 992 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,800 Speaker 2: I would say that Campbell is not quite the athlete 993 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 2: that Tremaine Edmonds is, but I think he's gotten beat 994 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 2: on natural instincts in spades. The biggest selling point for 995 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,399 Speaker 2: Jack Campbell are his football instincts and his football IQ. 996 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 1: Like he said, he's a smart guy. 997 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 2: He worked for a week with Luke Keigley, the former 998 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,839 Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers linebacker. He worked with him for a week 999 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 2: out at his training facility, tried to soak up as 1000 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 2: much as he could. I like Drew Sanders a little 1001 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 2: bit better than Campbell. I think he's a little bit 1002 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 2: better athlete, and I also think he's a two position player. 1003 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,880 Speaker 2: Now I could be way off on what his value is, 1004 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 2: who knows, but I'd be happier with him at twenty 1005 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:08,319 Speaker 2: seven because I. 1006 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 1: Think he gives you more. 1007 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 2: And I'm very interested to see where we're headed with 1008 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,799 Speaker 2: Sean McDermott and this defense with him calling it. We've 1009 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 2: got Taylor rap in here, he may be playing a 1010 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:27,280 Speaker 2: third safety role. Do you want? Are we getting closer 1011 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,920 Speaker 2: to multiple position athletes on defense? Is that where we 1012 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 2: are trending? Because if we are, Drew Sanders is a 1013 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 2: two position player as I. 1014 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 1: See it, Yes, I agree with all of that. 1015 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 3: I think there's a question as to how different the 1016 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 3: defense will look in the scheme it will run the 1017 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:52,279 Speaker 3: different because they never changed personnel when in down and 1018 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 3: distance under Leslie Frasier, But now Sean McDermott's doing all that. 1019 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 3: Are they going to be more will to put different 1020 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 3: personnel groups on the field. Are they gonna be dictated 1021 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 3: by their roster to put more combinations on the field 1022 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,400 Speaker 3: to match up with teams? Are they still gonna be 1023 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:11,800 Speaker 3: this nickel defense? 1024 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 1: And that's it kind of thing. 1025 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 3: Whether that was Leslie Fraser, whether it's Sean McDermott, whatever, 1026 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 3: we're gonna find out. But there's some questions that we 1027 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 3: don't know the answers to, and those questions and the 1028 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 3: answers to those questions have a lot to do with 1029 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 3: what that middle linebacker is going to be asked to do, 1030 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 3: and who's gonna be there and what they even how 1031 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,719 Speaker 3: much they even care about that spot. So there's a 1032 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 3: lot we don't know about what this defense is gonna 1033 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 3: be this season, let alone who's gonna line up at 1034 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:40,280 Speaker 3: middle linebacker. 1035 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,800 Speaker 2: Mm hm. We have to take a break here, but 1036 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,360 Speaker 2: when we come back our number two, we'll be talking 1037 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 2: one of the final mock drafts that are out there, 1038 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,440 Speaker 2: and we'll also be talking about some of the latest 1039 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 2: rumors that are out there concerning some of the top 1040 00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:03,800 Speaker 2: picks in the draft tonight, round one, and we'll be 1041 00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 2: doing that with Evan Silva coming up next here on 1042 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,839 Speaker 2: One Bill's Live, presented by co Lot of Health, It's 1043 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio. All Right, welcome back to One Bill's Live, 1044 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:31,359 Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker Draft Day twenty twenty three, hour 1045 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:35,320 Speaker 2: number two of our Draft day show, and please to 1046 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 2: be joined now by the creator and writer for Establish 1047 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 2: the Run. You can also hear him on the Established 1048 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 2: the Run podcast. It is Evan Silva joining us, and Evan, 1049 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,320 Speaker 2: good to have you. You excited. It's like the Christmas 1050 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 2: Eve of football season. 1051 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 8: I'm super excited. I'm nervous. I have a lot of anxiety. 1052 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,200 Speaker 8: You know, how much stuff am I going to get wrong? 1053 00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 8: How many of my predictions are going to go wrong. 1054 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 8: I mean, everybody's that it's they're gonna be crazy outcomes tonight, 1055 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,400 Speaker 8: and I don't know, we'll see. I'm ready to get 1056 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:06,960 Speaker 8: started though. 1057 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1058 00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,799 Speaker 3: And as you see this thing take shape, how deep 1059 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 3: into the top ten or the first round tonight do 1060 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,239 Speaker 3: you think it will go before it kind of goes 1061 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,800 Speaker 3: off the rails and we start getting people that are surprising, 1062 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:23,880 Speaker 3: How deep do you think they go? I mean, certainly 1063 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,319 Speaker 3: you could interchange maybe fifteen guys into the top ten, 1064 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,399 Speaker 3: but outside of that, then all of a sudden, maybe 1065 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 3: you get a player like a thirty five ranking into 1066 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 3: the top ten, that kind of thing. How deep do 1067 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:39,800 Speaker 3: you think it goes before they go off the rails. 1068 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 8: That's a really good question, I think, thinking logically, because 1069 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 8: this is not regarded as a strong draft. I mean, 1070 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 8: Brandon Bean kind of alluded to that. Jordan Renan, who 1071 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 8: covers the Giants, was talking about some teams don't even 1072 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 8: have first round grade. Teams have first round grades on 1073 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,440 Speaker 8: fewer than ten players in the draft. So thinking logically, 1074 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,800 Speaker 8: are there guys worth trading up for? You know, I 1075 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 8: don't know, you know, so I kind of think that 1076 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 8: there is a chance that there isn't as much chaos 1077 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,360 Speaker 8: as a lot of people are predicting, and that teams 1078 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 8: are gonna sit and pick unless unless teams up top 1079 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 8: are willing to take discounts to trade down, which I 1080 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 8: think that the Cardinals might because they I mean, they 1081 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,359 Speaker 8: just need picks period because their roster is so poor. 1082 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,239 Speaker 8: So I think that there's actually a chance that it 1083 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,400 Speaker 8: could not. It might not be as chaotic as a 1084 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 8: lot of people are predicting. 1085 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 2: But who knows. 1086 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 8: I mean, you know, when when teams get desperate for 1087 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 8: quarterbacks and there are I think gonna be five first 1088 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,920 Speaker 8: round quarterbacks, you know, teams teams make move to get 1089 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:51,120 Speaker 8: the most impactful position in pro sports EVN. 1090 00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 2: I know in your column that you put up on 1091 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,959 Speaker 2: established orun dot com about ten things I think about 1092 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,760 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty three NFL Draft, you were pretty adamant 1093 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 2: that wide receiver was going to be drafted before pick thirteen. 1094 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,000 Speaker 2: I think the general consensus is Smith and Jigmil will 1095 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,800 Speaker 2: be the first off the board. My question to you is, 1096 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 2: we all know this is considered a watered down receiver class, 1097 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,239 Speaker 2: particularly at the top. It's lacking alpha males. If you will, 1098 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,800 Speaker 2: do you think the class is good enough with the 1099 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,960 Speaker 2: first round graded guys that many people feel will go 1100 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,200 Speaker 2: in that round. Is there are there enough there to 1101 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,400 Speaker 2: create a run on receiver and if so, where do 1102 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 2: you think that happens. 1103 00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, so, you know, some of the more plugged in 1104 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:37,680 Speaker 8: national reporters and analysts kind of came to a little 1105 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,920 Speaker 8: bit of a consensus beginning last night when Daniel Jeremiah 1106 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 8: did his mock draft and he had the Titans taking 1107 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:45,920 Speaker 8: Ja Flowers at number eleven. 1108 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:46,359 Speaker 4: Wow. 1109 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 8: Overall, that was really really early, you know, and I 1110 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,359 Speaker 8: think a lot of people expect Smith and jig Butt 1111 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 8: to go to the Packers at number thirteen. I see 1112 00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,400 Speaker 8: to this point, I had been expecting the run to 1113 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 8: happen in the twenties. Quinton Johnston at a TCU I 1114 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,680 Speaker 8: think will be a first round pick somewhere in the twenties. 1115 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,799 Speaker 8: And then Jordan Addison. A lot of teams really like him, 1116 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 8: and I think Chargers at twenty one make a lot 1117 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:14,719 Speaker 8: of sense to him. I think it'll be a little 1118 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,800 Speaker 8: bit more spread out. But I do think that the 1119 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 8: the Bills at twenty seven, I think that they might 1120 00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 8: be the end of the run. 1121 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 1: Actually, this draft of wide receivers, and we've talked about 1122 00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:30,319 Speaker 1: a lot. 1123 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,400 Speaker 3: They all kind of seem to be a little bit undersized, 1124 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,320 Speaker 3: except for Quinton Johnson and some guys further are actually 1125 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,200 Speaker 3: way down the list. There's a couple of bigger guys 1126 00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:42,200 Speaker 3: down the list, but the top ten guys, with the 1127 00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:47,080 Speaker 3: exception of maybe one or two, are all undersized NFL 1128 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:48,000 Speaker 3: wide receivers. 1129 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 1: Certainly, they all bring it, you know, all bring something 1130 00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:51,720 Speaker 1: to the table. 1131 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,280 Speaker 3: But what separates one guy from the What's separates Jordan 1132 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:59,399 Speaker 3: Addison from you know, Smith and Jigba, What separates Smith 1133 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,560 Speaker 3: and Jigba from Flowers because they all are very similar 1134 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,480 Speaker 3: in their size and what they've been asked to do 1135 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 3: in college. 1136 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that Smith and Jigba and Zay Flowers 1137 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 8: are the true slots. Like, you know, if the Bills 1138 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,320 Speaker 8: are looking for a slot receiver, those would be the 1139 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 8: guys that I think that you look that that you 1140 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,759 Speaker 8: look for. And I do think that they're looking for 1141 00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 8: a slot receiver. Although you know, you could make an 1142 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 8: argument that if the Bills uh want, like just want 1143 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,520 Speaker 8: to take the best receiver that that falls to them, 1144 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,359 Speaker 8: then it might be Quinton Johnston and then you play 1145 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,280 Speaker 8: him outside across from Gabe Davis, and you work Stefan 1146 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 8: Diggs into the slot more, which I think that I 1147 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,880 Speaker 8: think that that's a realistic scenario if that's something that 1148 00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 8: that they want to do. So I think that so 1149 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,839 Speaker 8: so Flowers and Smith and Jigba stand out because they're 1150 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,040 Speaker 8: they're slot receivers, and Jordan Addison can do a little 1151 00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,440 Speaker 8: bit of both. And then I think Quinton Johnston is 1152 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 8: like the clear, you're outside guy, let's flip. 1153 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,799 Speaker 2: It to offensive tackle here, because I think that's an outside, 1154 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,239 Speaker 2: you know, shot for the Bills to tap into if 1155 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,279 Speaker 2: the value matches up. And I was interested to see 1156 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,360 Speaker 2: and we've heard this. You know that Darnell wright Stock 1157 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 2: was going through the roof here in the late going, 1158 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,880 Speaker 2: and you've got him going fifteenth to the Jets, So 1159 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,919 Speaker 2: that's not much of a surprise based on what we've 1160 00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 2: heard and read and seen out there. But then you've 1161 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 2: got Tipman going twenty four to the Jaguars, the center 1162 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:39,200 Speaker 2: guard from Wisconsin, and then you don't have another tackle 1163 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,440 Speaker 2: coming off the board until Broderick Jones all the way 1164 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,680 Speaker 2: down at thirty one. We've seen him routinely in the 1165 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,800 Speaker 2: teen's early twenties the latest. Are you hearing anything on 1166 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,959 Speaker 2: Broderick Jones. Why the drop for him and your mock? 1167 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean when you're doing a mock draft, sometimes 1168 00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:02,000 Speaker 8: you know, you're just trying to match players with teams 1169 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,800 Speaker 8: and specifically positions. I mean, at one time I had 1170 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:12,400 Speaker 8: Anton Harrison from Oklahoma as the number thirty one pick 1171 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,640 Speaker 8: to Kansas City. I actually think that he could play. 1172 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,960 Speaker 8: He could be in play for the Bills. Yeah, at 1173 00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:23,440 Speaker 8: number twenty seven. He was supposed to not be super athletic, 1174 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,200 Speaker 8: but he went to the Combine. He tested really well. 1175 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,800 Speaker 8: He's got really long arms, and I mean he played 1176 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:33,400 Speaker 8: a lot of football at Oklahoma. Yeah, I mean I 1177 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 8: think Broderick Jones is probably going to go earlier than 1178 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,520 Speaker 8: thirty one. That's just kind of how the mock shook out. 1179 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,400 Speaker 8: And you know, I wanted to I wanted to make 1180 00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,320 Speaker 8: sure that I had him in the first round. I 1181 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 8: just you know, I was matching a bunch of other 1182 00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,280 Speaker 8: tackles to teams, and he just happened to slip the 1183 00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:49,320 Speaker 8: thirty one. It's just kind of how it. 1184 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,040 Speaker 2: Goes, gotcha, right, right? Yeah? 1185 00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,960 Speaker 3: Do you think that, as you said, We've heard it 1186 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 3: from the beginning of this it wasn't a strong group 1187 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,560 Speaker 3: of receivers, and it's and it's spilled over in some 1188 00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:00,360 Speaker 3: of the things. It's deep and tight end, deep in 1189 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:04,280 Speaker 3: edge rushers, but overall this is a draft that's kind 1190 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 3: of a yawner in the big picture. Are we still 1191 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:13,040 Speaker 3: suffering from the twenty twenty pandemic and where that NCAA 1192 00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,600 Speaker 3: allowed guys to come back for a fifth year? A 1193 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 3: lot of guys stayed out of the draft that year 1194 00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,240 Speaker 3: and then the next year. There was a huge pool 1195 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:25,160 Speaker 3: of players in twenty twenty one, twenty two, and now 1196 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,600 Speaker 3: players are staying in college a little longer because they've 1197 00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,400 Speaker 3: got NAAL money and some of them will take a 1198 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:34,200 Speaker 3: pay cut coming to the pros. Do you think this 1199 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,560 Speaker 3: is kind of a trend where the draft is kind 1200 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,960 Speaker 3: of finding its own level after the chaos of the 1201 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:40,080 Speaker 3: last two or three years. 1202 00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's it's starting to bounce back to 1203 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 8: normal because there were a lot of guys, I mean, 1204 00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,800 Speaker 8: just teams didn't have a whole lot of tape on guys. Shoot, 1205 00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,720 Speaker 8: there was one year that wasn't even a combine, right, 1206 00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:55,360 Speaker 8: you know, So yeah, I think it's starting to bounce 1207 00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,360 Speaker 8: back toward normalcy, But you're right. I mean teams were 1208 00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,520 Speaker 8: kind of wing it there for a while, and they 1209 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 8: had to rely on really small sample size of game 1210 01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:10,440 Speaker 8: tape to watch and you know, and like talking to 1211 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:15,320 Speaker 8: the college departments about how athletic the guys really were 1212 01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:19,120 Speaker 8: and how they tested, you know, privately, and going to 1213 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,280 Speaker 8: the pro days. I mean, yeah, they were winging it 1214 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:23,120 Speaker 8: for a while, no doubt. 1215 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,840 Speaker 2: What do you see Houston doing at two. There's been 1216 01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,800 Speaker 2: a lot of talk that they are off the quarterback 1217 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,280 Speaker 2: train at two and they may just take the best 1218 01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:38,080 Speaker 2: defensive player. I have a hard time, especially know when 1219 01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 2: they have picked twelve in what is a deep edge 1220 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,360 Speaker 2: rusher class at least at the top, that they're just 1221 01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 2: gonna bypass quarterback. I don't know why, but I just 1222 01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:49,280 Speaker 2: can't get there. 1223 01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,240 Speaker 1: Where are you on that? Well? 1224 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,520 Speaker 8: One of the hotter rumors, and I don't know if 1225 01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 8: there's any cree ins to this, one of the hotter 1226 01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,880 Speaker 8: rumors that came out in the last like forty eight 1227 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:04,560 Speaker 8: hours was that the Patriots want to come up to 1228 01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:09,080 Speaker 8: two and take Will Levis and they would trade mac 1229 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,920 Speaker 8: Jones to Houston. You know, there's a lot of people 1230 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,000 Speaker 8: that used to work in New England right that currently 1231 01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,640 Speaker 8: work in Houston, So that connection, I don't know if 1232 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,320 Speaker 8: that's going to happen, but I mean that is like 1233 01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:25,880 Speaker 8: something that has been bancied about. But yeah, I understand. 1234 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,520 Speaker 8: I think that the Texans want to play it a 1235 01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,480 Speaker 8: little bit safe though, and they want to make sure 1236 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,400 Speaker 8: they get two really really good players at two and twelve. 1237 01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,280 Speaker 8: And I don't think that they're in love with the 1238 01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 8: quarterback class. So well, I totally get what you're saying, 1239 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,800 Speaker 8: Like it, are they really going to emerge from you know, 1240 01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,840 Speaker 8: their two top twelve picks without a quarterback when all 1241 01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,360 Speaker 8: they got is with Davis Mills and case Keenum. It 1242 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,120 Speaker 8: doesn't make a lot of sense to us. But I 1243 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:51,960 Speaker 8: just I don't think that they're in love with the 1244 01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:52,760 Speaker 8: quarterback class. 1245 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,200 Speaker 1: Wow, And if so, who are they in love? And 1246 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:57,200 Speaker 1: that's what you really want to know. 1247 01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,440 Speaker 3: I mean, they're not going to They probably will not 1248 01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 3: be able to get a quarterback at twelve because they'll 1249 01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,280 Speaker 3: probably be off the board. Unless they're thinking about taking 1250 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,520 Speaker 3: a guy like Hendon Hooker who's not going to play 1251 01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,400 Speaker 3: for the first half of the season. Maybe they'll maybe 1252 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,560 Speaker 3: they could count on him sliding although I think that's 1253 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,160 Speaker 3: in and of itself as a roll of the dice. 1254 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:19,200 Speaker 3: What what do they do if you know they're not 1255 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,320 Speaker 3: going to trade for mac Jones for the number two 1256 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:23,160 Speaker 3: pick of the draft. 1257 01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:25,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1258 01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,320 Speaker 8: You know, they're not a real well run organization, and 1259 01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,200 Speaker 8: that's been the case for a long time. So you know, 1260 01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:36,040 Speaker 8: we're trying to apply our logic to them, and it's 1261 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,880 Speaker 8: just I don't think that that they're thinking like us. 1262 01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,360 Speaker 11: Oh boy, yeah o. 1263 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,560 Speaker 2: Best of luck to the Texans. Good lord, I hope 1264 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,200 Speaker 2: they don't crawl it up. Jesu yay. I'm not encouraged 1265 01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:47,960 Speaker 2: by what I'm hearing here, Evan, you got me even 1266 01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,640 Speaker 2: I almost feel bad for them, or at least they're 1267 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:54,960 Speaker 2: fans anyway, for goodness sake. The tight end class, you know, 1268 01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,440 Speaker 2: as Steve mentioned Devan is considered to be super strong. 1269 01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,360 Speaker 2: We could see as many as five times ends in 1270 01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:04,920 Speaker 2: the top fifty picks. Are you in if you're a 1271 01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:09,240 Speaker 2: team in need of a tight end are you Are 1272 01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,880 Speaker 2: you waiting on it because the class is so deep? 1273 01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:16,600 Speaker 2: Or is there enough separation from the top two or three, 1274 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:20,040 Speaker 2: from four, five or six or six, seven or eight 1275 01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,000 Speaker 2: to say, well, let's just get the best of the bunch. 1276 01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:22,240 Speaker 5: Now. 1277 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:27,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that there are like six really really 1278 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,600 Speaker 8: good tight end prospects, and I think they're going to 1279 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,960 Speaker 8: come off the board because again, the rest of the 1280 01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,760 Speaker 8: class is pretty weak, but these guys are legitimately really 1281 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,400 Speaker 8: good prospects. Luke Musgrave of Oregon State, he made it 1282 01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:44,640 Speaker 8: into Daniel Jeremiah's first round mock draft last night, and 1283 01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,560 Speaker 8: he's been you know, he's like considered like the fifth 1284 01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,600 Speaker 8: tight end. I think we could see upwards of four 1285 01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,680 Speaker 8: tight ends go in the first round, and then and 1286 01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,000 Speaker 8: and then some other tight ends come off the board 1287 01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,440 Speaker 8: early in the second. I think that Sam Laporta is 1288 01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:02,560 Speaker 8: an excellent prospect out of Iowa. He was really productive 1289 01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,840 Speaker 8: for two years. These Iowa tight ends had been doing 1290 01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,880 Speaker 8: great in the NFL. T J Hawkinson, Noah, George Kittle. 1291 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:13,680 Speaker 8: But I think that Michael Mayer is the true alpha stud. 1292 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:16,600 Speaker 8: He's an excellent blocker. Reminds me of a lot of 1293 01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:21,160 Speaker 8: Todd Heap who played for a long time week and 1294 01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,560 Speaker 8: he was a first round pick. And I think that 1295 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:27,520 Speaker 8: his spectrum, Michael Mayer, I think will go in the 1296 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,800 Speaker 8: teams and I think his his his draft spectrum starts 1297 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:35,160 Speaker 8: with the Packers at thirteen and and I think ends 1298 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,760 Speaker 8: with the Lions at eighteen. I think he'll go somewhere 1299 01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:38,640 Speaker 8: in that range. 1300 01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,720 Speaker 1: What position group has the most first round picks this season? 1301 01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:44,640 Speaker 8: I think offensive line? 1302 01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:49,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, tackles or guards. Will there be some guards taken 1303 01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:50,439 Speaker 1: in the first round. 1304 01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,840 Speaker 8: I think that there will be at least four tackles, 1305 01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:58,760 Speaker 8: and I think that Joe Tipman I would I'm considering 1306 01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,400 Speaker 8: Scronski out of North Ustern a tackle for now, but 1307 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 8: Joe Tipman also could could sneak into the first I 1308 01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,960 Speaker 8: think that the Jaguars at number twenty four are hot 1309 01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,120 Speaker 8: on him and they need interior line help pretty badly. 1310 01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,760 Speaker 8: And they just just came out to Cam Robinson. Their 1311 01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:19,280 Speaker 8: left tackle is going to be suspended. Yes, so they 1312 01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:20,440 Speaker 8: need they need a line help. 1313 01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. Just you know, 1314 01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,480 Speaker 3: Jacksonville may be relegated to tackle instead of guard. 1315 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,160 Speaker 1: But I agree with you, Joe. 1316 01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,880 Speaker 3: I've been hammering Joe Tipman to Brownie for weeks because 1317 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:34,880 Speaker 3: I think he's just the kind of guy that would be. 1318 01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:37,840 Speaker 3: Because the Bills are pretty the Bills have got a 1319 01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,040 Speaker 3: really good roster and a guy like Tipman could be 1320 01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:44,800 Speaker 3: the air apparent to a center position where Mitch Morris 1321 01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:48,840 Speaker 3: is plus add some really quality depth down inside. It's 1322 01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,480 Speaker 3: a hard roster to make, but sooner or later you 1323 01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,320 Speaker 3: gotta start replenishing. I thought Tipman is really really a 1324 01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:55,640 Speaker 3: good player down inside. 1325 01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,000 Speaker 1: Could he play guard as well? 1326 01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:58,000 Speaker 11: Yeah? 1327 01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,840 Speaker 8: I think so, And I know teams like him more 1328 01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,880 Speaker 8: than the sort of that the media buzz like. The 1329 01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,520 Speaker 8: teams really really like him, and I think that they 1330 01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:11,920 Speaker 8: think he's like clearly the best interior line prospects. 1331 01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,320 Speaker 2: Last one I've got for you, Evan is you know, 1332 01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,640 Speaker 2: we all heard the you know, the hype on Bijon 1333 01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,200 Speaker 2: Robinson and the general consensus is he'll be off the 1334 01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:23,439 Speaker 2: board before we get even to the middle of the round. 1335 01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,520 Speaker 2: But Jamir Gibbs is getting more play here in the 1336 01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:31,640 Speaker 2: late going as a late first round pick. We've seen 1337 01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:35,120 Speaker 2: reports of him being linked to the Bills, the Eagles, 1338 01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:40,160 Speaker 2: the Bengals. What do you think the likelihood is that 1339 01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,120 Speaker 2: he sneaks into the bottom around one here. 1340 01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:44,400 Speaker 8: If you asked me a week ago, I would have 1341 01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,360 Speaker 8: said I kind of wasn't buying it, But I think 1342 01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,400 Speaker 8: it's going to happen, and I think the Eagles at 1343 01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,200 Speaker 8: number thirty, assuming that they don't take b John Robinson 1344 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,320 Speaker 8: up top, which I do think is a possibility. I 1345 01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:00,000 Speaker 8: think the Eagles at number thirty really really like Jamir Gibz, 1346 01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:04,040 Speaker 8: and I think that that's a distinct possibility. 1347 01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:06,720 Speaker 1: Evan, good stuff. I can't wait. 1348 01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,320 Speaker 3: It's like we're all waiting to open our presence here 1349 01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,640 Speaker 3: on Christmas Eve and we're excited. 1350 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:12,720 Speaker 1: Thanks for giving us some insight. 1351 01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:18,600 Speaker 2: Appreciate you, all right. That's content creator and creator of 1352 01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:22,160 Speaker 2: the website, established the Run dot com. He used to 1353 01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,600 Speaker 2: be big on roto World. I remember Evan Silva, so 1354 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,280 Speaker 2: it started his own thing, Established the Run dot Com. 1355 01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,080 Speaker 2: He's got a podcast too, so check it out if 1356 01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,280 Speaker 2: you get a chance. Got some good content on there. 1357 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:34,120 Speaker 2: Always good to catch up with Evan. On the draft, 1358 01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,120 Speaker 2: he said Michael Mayer will be the first tight end drafted, 1359 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:41,840 Speaker 2: and it won't be close yet. The most interesting note 1360 01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:46,280 Speaker 2: that he had on Mayer was his ras His raw 1361 01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:50,680 Speaker 2: athletics score was better than Mark Andrews of the Ravens 1362 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:54,640 Speaker 2: really coming out. So I think he gets knocked because 1363 01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,080 Speaker 2: he doesn't run like a deer like some of these 1364 01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:01,000 Speaker 2: other past catching only tight ends in the class. This 1365 01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:04,400 Speaker 2: guy does everything and he's still a pretty darn good athlete. 1366 01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:05,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1367 01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:08,240 Speaker 3: He also he's got a couple of tidbits that he 1368 01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,160 Speaker 3: you know, through his mock draft and all the stuff 1369 01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,520 Speaker 3: the research that he's done. There's a couple of guys 1370 01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:15,120 Speaker 3: like the edge Russian from Iowa State, Will McDonald and 1371 01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:19,519 Speaker 3: the offensive tackle Anton Harrison from Oklahoma. He thinks those 1372 01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:23,000 Speaker 3: guys are way higher on most people's boards than guys 1373 01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:24,519 Speaker 3: like you and me think they are. He thinks they're 1374 01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:25,479 Speaker 3: gonna go higher than they. 1375 01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,840 Speaker 2: I think both those guys sneak into the bottom of 1376 01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:28,200 Speaker 2: the round. 1377 01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:31,120 Speaker 3: And he also pegged that Joey Porter Junior the corner 1378 01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,800 Speaker 3: out of Penn State and Dalton Kincaid the tight end 1379 01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,120 Speaker 3: out of Utah. Both those guys have been buzzed a lot. 1380 01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,439 Speaker 3: He thinks they're not as high as. 1381 01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:44,200 Speaker 2: Zoey Porter doesn't have elite testing measurables. He has elite size, 1382 01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:49,400 Speaker 2: elite physicality, but he doesn't have really good testing measurables, 1383 01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:51,720 Speaker 2: and so I think that's gonna knock him down a 1384 01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:53,759 Speaker 2: little bit. So I would tend to agree with that opinion. 1385 01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:58,160 Speaker 2: Dalton Kinkaid just checked out medically like a week and 1386 01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,280 Speaker 2: a half ago off the back injury, right, and that 1387 01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:05,600 Speaker 2: back injuries they're tough, number one and number two. You 1388 01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,200 Speaker 2: want to talk about a wide variance of opinion, go 1389 01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,040 Speaker 2: ask ten doctors about the same back injury and you'll 1390 01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,840 Speaker 2: get about eight different answers the back. If so, you know, 1391 01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:15,880 Speaker 2: the medical stats for all these teams are going to 1392 01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:17,840 Speaker 2: give them a different give their team a different. Oh, 1393 01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:19,840 Speaker 2: don't touch him in the first round. Oh, this is 1394 01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,000 Speaker 2: a one contract guy. His back's going to be breaking 1395 01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,200 Speaker 2: down after year four. You know you're gonna have all 1396 01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,720 Speaker 2: these different opinions on ken Kaid's back. 1397 01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:31,800 Speaker 1: Right, If you get the back disease, you're in deep trouble. 1398 01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:35,640 Speaker 3: Because it because it is so mysterious and there's you know, 1399 01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:37,640 Speaker 3: there's no really easy way to get over it, and 1400 01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:38,880 Speaker 3: it's debilitating. 1401 01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,560 Speaker 2: If it's if it's well, he hadn't done anything since Thanksgiving. 1402 01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,320 Speaker 3: So it's it's a real thing. Now there will be 1403 01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:46,040 Speaker 3: and like you said, there's the other side of the 1404 01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:48,280 Speaker 3: corner that two say, hey, guys, this guy is a steal. 1405 01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:51,880 Speaker 3: You get the back thing is nothing, you know, so 1406 01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,160 Speaker 3: just go ahead and it's not an issue. So some 1407 01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:58,720 Speaker 3: team will say we got the guy right, so that 1408 01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:00,840 Speaker 3: those are the kind of thing that's why you find 1409 01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,640 Speaker 3: out at the combine and all of that stuff, and 1410 01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:07,280 Speaker 3: he got and now that he's cleared, I think most 1411 01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:10,519 Speaker 3: teams forget you should treat a guy like that who's 1412 01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,160 Speaker 3: been cleared and all ready to go, just like you 1413 01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:14,920 Speaker 3: would a player on your own team who's already under 1414 01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,479 Speaker 3: contract who gets cleared, like, Okay, let's go, let's see 1415 01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:19,479 Speaker 3: what you got kind of thing. I don't think there's 1416 01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:21,439 Speaker 3: any of that going on with guys who've played in 1417 01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,760 Speaker 3: the league who got injured at playing football. It's wrong 1418 01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:28,920 Speaker 3: to project something sinister on a guy in his future 1419 01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,080 Speaker 3: just because you hasn't been he hasn't been on your 1420 01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:34,560 Speaker 3: team yet. So teams kind of get caught up in 1421 01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:35,640 Speaker 3: that a little bit too much. 1422 01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,640 Speaker 2: I think sometimes let's get back to the phones and 1423 01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,479 Speaker 2: see who your guy is. For the Bills at pick 1424 01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:44,200 Speaker 2: twenty seven, tonight open line for you. At eight h 1425 01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:47,120 Speaker 2: three oh five fifty, we go to James and Tonawanda, 1426 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,160 Speaker 2: who's been waiting patiently. What do you got for us? James? 1427 01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:56,320 Speaker 12: Yeah, I would want to get Darnell right, okay, And 1428 01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,840 Speaker 12: or if he's in like the twenty three, trade up 1429 01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:03,240 Speaker 12: the gill him or go tight end, just so we 1430 01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,600 Speaker 12: have a bigger target for a Josh Allen. 1431 01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:08,840 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, is there a tight end you like there? 1432 01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:11,000 Speaker 7: All right? 1433 01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:16,760 Speaker 12: Luke Musgrave Okay, yeah, I think he's gonna be like 1434 01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,840 Speaker 12: the one there. I'm not too sure. The other two 1435 01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:24,080 Speaker 12: might be off the mording right, and Steve wish. 1436 01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:25,000 Speaker 4: You were in the Hall of Fame. 1437 01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:26,679 Speaker 12: You're a Hall of Famer to us. 1438 01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:28,519 Speaker 1: So we love you. 1439 01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:32,240 Speaker 3: Thanks, James, I appreciate your uh, listen, I don't think 1440 01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:37,800 Speaker 3: just we thought Darnell Wright was gonna be there when 1441 01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,160 Speaker 3: we all started this two months ago, three months ago. 1442 01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,439 Speaker 3: But yeah, Darnell right, maybe then we started watching him 1443 01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:44,920 Speaker 3: and says, yeah, we hope he's gonna be here. 1444 01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:46,320 Speaker 1: That'd be awesome. I like the guy. 1445 01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,080 Speaker 3: We could get him at twenty seven. Then later on 1446 01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:51,000 Speaker 3: it's like, we ain't getting him. We're gonna have trade 1447 01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,960 Speaker 3: up to get him now, because the more we watch 1448 01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:55,560 Speaker 3: him and the more you find out about him, the 1449 01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:56,639 Speaker 3: more he's like, ah. 1450 01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:58,519 Speaker 1: He's too good. He's never in the line right. 1451 01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:02,679 Speaker 2: And while trading up is you know, all good and well, 1452 01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:06,439 Speaker 2: the Bills are not dealing from a position of strength 1453 01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,280 Speaker 2: in terms of draft capital. Sure, they could lob in 1454 01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:13,120 Speaker 2: some picks next year and make a trade happen if 1455 01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:15,400 Speaker 2: they really felt they had to do it. But they're 1456 01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,040 Speaker 2: not dealing from a position of strength this year with 1457 01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:21,240 Speaker 2: only six picks, and they need cheap labor on the roster. 1458 01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:26,240 Speaker 2: And that's why Brandon Bean said, you know, if you're 1459 01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,519 Speaker 2: placing a bet in Vegas, the Bills are more likely 1460 01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,280 Speaker 2: to trade out around one than they are to trade up. Yeah, 1461 01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:34,599 Speaker 2: knowing they'll have to give up some of the limited 1462 01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:35,760 Speaker 2: draft capital they already had. 1463 01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:38,320 Speaker 3: There's two there's two sides to this coin. We've been 1464 01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,760 Speaker 3: talking about them. I see if I can encapsulate them. One, 1465 01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:44,680 Speaker 3: it's a very weak draft topped about. There's not that 1466 01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:48,000 Speaker 3: many players that are really difference makers. Even in the 1467 01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,200 Speaker 3: top of the first round, there's only ten or twelve, 1468 01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:54,200 Speaker 3: less than fifteen guys that most teams think that's a 1469 01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:57,479 Speaker 3: guy you got to take if you're there. Everybody below 1470 01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:03,600 Speaker 3: that is not that, and so there's everybody behind that. 1471 01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:07,080 Speaker 3: You start to get varied and more wide ranging opinions 1472 01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,719 Speaker 3: about everybody who's left after those first ten or fifteen guys, 1473 01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:14,800 Speaker 3: Very wide ranging opinions So what happens when you get 1474 01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:18,160 Speaker 3: to the twenty seventh pick of Buffalo. There has to 1475 01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,000 Speaker 3: be some team out there, which is very possible actually, 1476 01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:23,840 Speaker 3: that they have a very high value on a guy 1477 01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,479 Speaker 3: that's fallen to twenty seven that you don't have, or 1478 01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:30,080 Speaker 3: that nobody else has. So there is that possibility that 1479 01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:34,599 Speaker 3: somebody out there thinks there's no way this guy should 1480 01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:38,639 Speaker 3: still be on the board, when in actuality, nobody believes 1481 01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:40,559 Speaker 3: he should. He should not be on the board, right. 1482 01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:45,080 Speaker 3: You got to find that team and trade them to 1483 01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,519 Speaker 3: get extra picks, because you know the guy's a stiff 1484 01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:49,519 Speaker 3: even though they think he's valuable. 1485 01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:50,760 Speaker 1: So there's all this. 1486 01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,719 Speaker 3: On one side, it's a shallow draft. Nobody wants to trade. 1487 01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:56,240 Speaker 3: Most people aren't going to want to trade up to 1488 01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:59,600 Speaker 3: twenty seven because there's nothing worth taking there. But the 1489 01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:03,920 Speaker 3: wide variants of opinions speaks against that. So they might 1490 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,439 Speaker 3: be somebody out there thinking, I can't believe he's still there, 1491 01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:12,599 Speaker 3: get it, don't get him right. So the very well 1492 01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:16,080 Speaker 3: both ends of that spectrum make it the wild wild 1493 01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:16,720 Speaker 3: West out there. 1494 01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:18,599 Speaker 2: It's gonna be wild tonight, I think it is. I'll 1495 01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,599 Speaker 2: be surprised if it's not. I think the wide range 1496 01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:24,800 Speaker 2: of opinions, or the wide the perceived wider range of 1497 01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:28,200 Speaker 2: opinions on prospects than we're used to seeing. This is 1498 01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:30,400 Speaker 2: going to prompt teams to act. 1499 01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:32,760 Speaker 3: Do you have the courage to stand there and say, 1500 01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:36,080 Speaker 3: I know that guy's really gonna be good, but I 1501 01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:37,960 Speaker 3: know too that we may not. We may be the 1502 01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,200 Speaker 3: only ones who believe it. So we're gonna sit tight 1503 01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,120 Speaker 3: and he's gonna be there at thirty four rather than 1504 01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:42,760 Speaker 3: twenty seven. 1505 01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,680 Speaker 2: Mel Kiper said this, and you can take what mel 1506 01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:47,280 Speaker 2: says with a grain of salt, but he's been doing 1507 01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:49,879 Speaker 2: this a long time. He's seen a lot of draft classes, 1508 01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:53,520 Speaker 2: and he said the variance of opinion is so widespread 1509 01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:57,439 Speaker 2: in the scouting community on so many players that if 1510 01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:59,840 Speaker 2: your team comes out of this draft and in three 1511 01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,920 Speaker 2: gets an A plus, an A or a B plus 1512 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,920 Speaker 2: grade on their draft class this year, they all deserve 1513 01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,839 Speaker 2: a race because this is the hardest one to evaluate 1514 01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:10,720 Speaker 2: that they've seen in like fifteen twenty nine. 1515 01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:12,760 Speaker 3: That says a lot, and I agree with it from 1516 01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,320 Speaker 3: what we've heard and what we said. Mel Kiper's all overnight, 1517 01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:16,760 Speaker 3: and I would agree with him on that there's a 1518 01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:18,120 Speaker 3: lot of stuff you don't agree with him on, and 1519 01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:19,599 Speaker 3: he's been wrong as much as been right. 1520 01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,280 Speaker 1: She's like every GM. But that makes a lot of 1521 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:22,760 Speaker 1: sense to me. 1522 01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,400 Speaker 2: Break time for us here when we come back, more 1523 01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:28,840 Speaker 2: of your phone calls on who is your guy for 1524 01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:31,599 Speaker 2: the Bills pick at twenty seven? We got an open 1525 01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:33,559 Speaker 2: line for you at eight oh three five point fifty 1526 01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,080 Speaker 2: your phone calls next here on One Bill's Live on 1527 01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:49,479 Speaker 2: Draft Day. All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live. 1528 01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:52,519 Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you asking you for your pick? 1529 01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,840 Speaker 2: Who's your guy for the Bills that picked twenty seven? 1530 01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:57,880 Speaker 2: Back to the phones and to Kevin and Hamburg. Next, 1531 01:15:57,960 --> 01:15:58,599 Speaker 2: what do you got Kevin? 1532 01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,120 Speaker 10: Guys, tell you do it? Thanks for in my call. Sure, 1533 01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,120 Speaker 10: I'm gonna try something different and say who I don't 1534 01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,479 Speaker 10: want the Bills to get and throw a little monkey 1535 01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,400 Speaker 10: wrench who I don't want the Bills to get in 1536 01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:09,000 Speaker 10: this case? 1537 01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:09,280 Speaker 2: Right? 1538 01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:13,080 Speaker 10: And that's the body catcher from TCU who's had a 1539 01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:15,519 Speaker 10: lot of drops on a team that had way too 1540 01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:17,800 Speaker 10: many droughts last year for as far as we were 1541 01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,519 Speaker 10: supposed to go, which we didn't. And if you're a 1542 01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:23,600 Speaker 10: body catcher, you know what happens, and Steve, you know 1543 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,639 Speaker 10: this because you caught passes once that weather gets cold 1544 01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:30,880 Speaker 10: and around from say Halloween and Thanksgiving and Christmas, the 1545 01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:34,000 Speaker 10: ball gets cold, the pads get cold. That leads to 1546 01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,720 Speaker 10: an inevitable disaster that I don't even want to think 1547 01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:40,080 Speaker 10: about as any fan, but especially bouncing up in the air, 1548 01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:43,960 Speaker 10: bounce off your pads, and that's just a scary thought 1549 01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:47,240 Speaker 10: because that weather, you know science, cold equals hard. Warm 1550 01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:50,240 Speaker 10: egals soft and compared to September when it's like seventy 1551 01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,240 Speaker 10: and you get a cold, nasty game went to Miami 1552 01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:57,599 Speaker 10: before Christmas. Oh, I don't even bounce off. He's had 1553 01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,240 Speaker 10: a lot of droughts last year in Texas which don't 1554 01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,800 Speaker 10: get as holds as we do. I can't imagine the 1555 01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,800 Speaker 10: fine in November December bouncing up and caught by an 1556 01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:06,719 Speaker 10: opposing jersey. 1557 01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:09,000 Speaker 3: All right, fair enough, you have to Kevin, Yeah you 1558 01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:12,599 Speaker 3: don't want Jonathan Quinton Johnston then yeah, I get it. Yeah, 1559 01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:14,960 Speaker 3: that's been one of the knocks on him. He doesn't 1560 01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,120 Speaker 3: catch the ball well enough and catched it with his body. 1561 01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:21,799 Speaker 3: And this just in if you're gonna play wide receiver 1562 01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:24,040 Speaker 3: in the NFL, catching the ball is kind of important. 1563 01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,439 Speaker 2: Okay, So what if I told you Steve over the 1564 01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:31,920 Speaker 2: last three seasons that Quentin Johnston has one hundred and 1565 01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:36,000 Speaker 2: fifteen receptions over the last three years and a total 1566 01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:40,080 Speaker 2: of thirteen drops. He had a career high eight drops 1567 01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:43,960 Speaker 2: last year. Also had a career high sixty receptions for 1568 01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:47,240 Speaker 2: oney sixty nine yards and averaged almost eighteen yards a catch, 1569 01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:50,240 Speaker 2: eight drops, sixty catches. 1570 01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:54,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's yeah, it sounds great to me. 1571 01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:56,559 Speaker 1: He's right. Kevin makes a good point. 1572 01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:58,120 Speaker 2: He played there's a body catch right there. 1573 01:17:58,160 --> 01:17:59,960 Speaker 3: You just saw he got the body catch it against 1574 01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:02,240 Speaker 3: in KU. But he he had a really nice game 1575 01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:06,400 Speaker 3: against the Jayhawks and TCU went off on the line. 1576 01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:08,880 Speaker 3: That was the first game that KU really had their 1577 01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:10,880 Speaker 3: hands full. They got off to a lightning start and 1578 01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:14,840 Speaker 3: TCU came in and lumped them up and Johnston was 1579 01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:15,519 Speaker 3: a big part of it. 1580 01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:17,759 Speaker 1: He had a really nice season. 1581 01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:18,880 Speaker 2: You see there. 1582 01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:22,559 Speaker 3: He's a contested catch guy. He's big, and that's rare 1583 01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,880 Speaker 3: and unique in this draft class. A big receiver. Now, 1584 01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,360 Speaker 3: there's some guys down the line that I like. 1585 01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:34,080 Speaker 1: I mean that I like. You know, we're talking about 1586 01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:37,160 Speaker 1: what's the guy's named Ford Wheaton out. 1587 01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,880 Speaker 2: Of Brice fordft. 1588 01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:44,880 Speaker 3: You can get him day three, uh, and he's six 1589 01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,400 Speaker 3: four two twenty five and faster than Johnson. 1590 01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:48,720 Speaker 2: He runs a four to three eight. 1591 01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:54,080 Speaker 3: So there's guys out there with some traits, but he's 1592 01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,080 Speaker 3: got the same knock. He can catch it real that well. 1593 01:18:56,200 --> 01:19:02,080 Speaker 2: Right route running Polish is something Quenton john needs. Makes 1594 01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:04,519 Speaker 2: you wonder like how much work does he need? How 1595 01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:06,559 Speaker 2: much is he? Is he worth the first round pick 1596 01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:08,320 Speaker 2: if he's not going to help you in year one? 1597 01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:12,439 Speaker 3: The the evaluation process is like this. There are certain 1598 01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:16,000 Speaker 3: things that you coach up, and certain things that come 1599 01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:20,800 Speaker 3: from the player. Attitude, commitment to getting better, you know, 1600 01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:24,679 Speaker 3: work ethic, all of that stuff comes from inside the player. 1601 01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:27,640 Speaker 3: If you're a coaching staff, you gotta think, listen. I 1602 01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:29,280 Speaker 3: can get I can teach the guy how to run 1603 01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:32,960 Speaker 3: a route. I can coach that up. I can coach 1604 01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:36,280 Speaker 3: up all this other stuff. Catching the ball, well, I'll 1605 01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,160 Speaker 3: get him on the jugs machine. We'll get him catching 1606 01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:39,800 Speaker 3: three hundred balls a day and it'll be like second 1607 01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,120 Speaker 3: nature to him. We'll fix all of that. But I 1608 01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:45,240 Speaker 3: can't fix an attitude, and I can't fix like stupid. 1609 01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:48,160 Speaker 3: I can't fix that. A guy can't learn, I can't 1610 01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:49,400 Speaker 3: teach him right. 1611 01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:50,960 Speaker 1: That kind of thing. 1612 01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,960 Speaker 3: There are certain aspects and tool sets that coaching staffs 1613 01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,280 Speaker 3: are like, Now, I'll forget that, I'll fix that. I 1614 01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,240 Speaker 3: can't fix a guy who's five to six. I don't 1615 01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:00,840 Speaker 3: have to fix the who's six four. 1616 01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:01,720 Speaker 1: Right. 1617 01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:05,320 Speaker 3: You can't coach tall, right, That's about one of the 1618 01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,040 Speaker 3: few things you can't coach. So you get a guy 1619 01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:10,559 Speaker 3: like that, and a lot of coaches will say, give 1620 01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:12,000 Speaker 3: me a chance to work on that guy. Or if 1621 01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:13,960 Speaker 3: you're in a guy like a place like the Bills are, 1622 01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:19,720 Speaker 3: like they tried to do with Isaiah Hodgens, give us 1623 01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:21,200 Speaker 3: a chance to coach him up and see if we 1624 01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:22,880 Speaker 3: can get him good enough to get on the field. 1625 01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:24,960 Speaker 3: And well, here in Buffalo he couldn't get good enough 1626 01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:26,640 Speaker 3: fast enough to make it on the field. He can 1627 01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:27,920 Speaker 3: go to the Giants and play for them. 1628 01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:29,599 Speaker 1: That kind of thing. 1629 01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:33,599 Speaker 3: That's what's what you're looking at. You got a guy 1630 01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:36,680 Speaker 3: with some traits and some skills, and your coaching staff's going, now, 1631 01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:39,439 Speaker 3: I can fix that. I can't fix this other thing. 1632 01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:41,360 Speaker 3: This guy's easier to coach up and get on the 1633 01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:43,479 Speaker 3: field faster than this guy over here. He has got 1634 01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:45,880 Speaker 3: a different set of problems. That's what you're looking at 1635 01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:48,200 Speaker 3: with these draft picks. And there's some guys like Quintin 1636 01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:52,640 Speaker 3: Johnston who are rare in this class. But there are 1637 01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,360 Speaker 3: some guys further down the line, like the guy I 1638 01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:59,840 Speaker 3: mentioned who you know, they're kind of comparable, don't have 1639 01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:02,800 Speaker 3: the college career he did, but the coaching staff might say, hey, 1640 01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:04,200 Speaker 3: I can fix that guy that we can get in 1641 01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:05,920 Speaker 3: the fifth round and make him as good as the 1642 01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:07,639 Speaker 3: guy you're thinking about taking it twenty. 1643 01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:11,880 Speaker 2: Seven, the same measurables and faster. Yeah, let's go back 1644 01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:14,360 Speaker 2: to the phones. Dennis in North Carolina is next? 1645 01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:15,360 Speaker 1: What do you got for his? Dennis? 1646 01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:25,360 Speaker 13: He uhbout buffaloft draft Darnell Washington or Dalton McKay from 1647 01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:29,720 Speaker 13: Utah because uh Brandon bing hadn't hit the tight end 1648 01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:34,439 Speaker 13: and free agency, and we need some help in the 1649 01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:38,920 Speaker 13: secondary with all the transient scenes going on in the East, 1650 01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:41,040 Speaker 13: so you want to think about that. 1651 01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:43,439 Speaker 2: You want guys that can cover receivers, is what you're 1652 01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:47,840 Speaker 2: getting at. Yeah, yeah, you're thinking of tight end or 1653 01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:49,400 Speaker 2: second or or secondary. 1654 01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:50,080 Speaker 1: And I get it. 1655 01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:54,719 Speaker 3: A mock I saw today had the Bills taken Dion 1656 01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:59,720 Speaker 3: or Brian Branch the defensive back out of out of Alabama. Yeah, 1657 01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:02,280 Speaker 3: so that's on the but I'll say this to you, 1658 01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:05,160 Speaker 3: I don't have a problem where the Bill's secondary is 1659 01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:09,240 Speaker 3: right now. Trap is gonna help him, Taylor Rap Rap 1660 01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:11,200 Speaker 3: is gonna help them in the back end at safety. 1661 01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:15,360 Speaker 3: They got safety depth, they got corners as Kyrie Elam, 1662 01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:17,879 Speaker 3: they got Trey White's gonna come back with a vengeance 1663 01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:20,600 Speaker 3: this year. I would think also Jackson, Dan Jackson and 1664 01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:24,320 Speaker 3: ben and Benford, Taron Johnson, Taron Johnson. 1665 01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:25,719 Speaker 1: They've got guys that can play. 1666 01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:27,200 Speaker 3: I think there is deep and as good in the 1667 01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:29,720 Speaker 3: secondary coming into this training camp, deeper and better than 1668 01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,639 Speaker 3: they were last year because they didn't have They didn't 1669 01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:35,840 Speaker 3: have Trey and Benford and Kye were huge question marks. 1670 01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:39,040 Speaker 3: So I think this year they got to feel really 1671 01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:40,600 Speaker 3: good about where their secondary is. 1672 01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:43,640 Speaker 2: So I would corner class, you can get somebody on 1673 01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:45,639 Speaker 2: day three that could be a bottom of the roster. 1674 01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:47,120 Speaker 3: Guy, and this is a deep corner class. So I 1675 01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,880 Speaker 3: wouldn't say it's out of the question. I wouldn't say 1676 01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:51,479 Speaker 3: it's out of the question, Dennis, but I wouldn't put 1677 01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:53,240 Speaker 3: it as high as a priority as you do. I'm 1678 01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:56,400 Speaker 3: not as scared by the roster right now as you 1679 01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,479 Speaker 3: seem to be. In fact, I'm kind of encouraged by it. 1680 01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:01,600 Speaker 2: So I think he's worried about the rest of the 1681 01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:04,600 Speaker 2: division more. No, I get the firepower. That's let's get it. 1682 01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:08,920 Speaker 3: You got Wattle, you got Wattle and Hill down in Miami. 1683 01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:11,240 Speaker 3: Then you got those guys, these jokers up here in 1684 01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:15,600 Speaker 3: New York. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers, it's tough. It's tough, but 1685 01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:17,479 Speaker 3: I think this is the team that can hold up 1686 01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:17,680 Speaker 3: to it. 1687 01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:18,200 Speaker 1: Don't forget. 1688 01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,160 Speaker 3: This is a real This was a really good defense 1689 01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:22,360 Speaker 3: last year, and I think they could. They got a 1690 01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:26,839 Speaker 3: chance to be more spectacular this year, if not more effective. 1691 01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:29,479 Speaker 2: Let's go to Cal in Grand Island next. 1692 01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:30,120 Speaker 1: What do you got for us? 1693 01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:30,360 Speaker 2: Cal? 1694 01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:32,280 Speaker 4: Hey? How you got doing it? 1695 01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:32,880 Speaker 9: A great show? 1696 01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:33,639 Speaker 1: I love it's good. 1697 01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:37,679 Speaker 9: What I got is I'd like to see Brandon bean 1698 01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:39,640 Speaker 9: like trade down. And I was doing the maths on 1699 01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:43,680 Speaker 9: that chart, and twenty seventh pick is worth like six 1700 01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:45,880 Speaker 9: hundred and eighty points, and fifty nine is three tens, 1701 01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:49,519 Speaker 9: so that's nine ninety and if you go back down 1702 01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:52,639 Speaker 9: we can That's the same equivalent as forty and forty one, 1703 01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:54,920 Speaker 9: and I've been looking at I've done a lot of 1704 01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:57,559 Speaker 9: mock dress myself, and I believe we can still get 1705 01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:02,000 Speaker 9: Jack Campbell and Jalen hya At both, you know, forty 1706 01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:03,920 Speaker 9: and forty one, because like they got Jack in the 1707 01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:07,920 Speaker 9: like like late thirties ranked in or upper forties and 1708 01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:09,840 Speaker 9: Jalen Hyatt like forty four or whatever. 1709 01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, So you're doing like a trade sandwich, Cal, You're 1710 01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:15,160 Speaker 2: you're trading up from the bottom around two and back 1711 01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:17,439 Speaker 2: from the bottom around one. You're doing a trade sandwich. 1712 01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:20,320 Speaker 9: You got it, And that's what I'd like to get 1713 01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:21,960 Speaker 9: both the guys. Like a lot of people who are 1714 01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:24,360 Speaker 9: saying that there's not a lot of first round talent, 1715 01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:27,120 Speaker 9: well it seems like what the Bills need is some 1716 01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:30,360 Speaker 9: of the high end second round talent, and I think 1717 01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:33,000 Speaker 9: that'd be great. You know that Tennessee kid Hyatt, he 1718 01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:35,080 Speaker 9: runs like a four to three and I think he's 1719 01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:38,280 Speaker 9: got a lot of potential. And I think everybody's agreement 1720 01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:41,160 Speaker 9: about Jack Campbell. So that's what I do. 1721 01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:43,760 Speaker 2: All right, that's an interesting approach, Cal, Thanks for the call. 1722 01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:45,919 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem getting more draft picks. 1723 01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,960 Speaker 2: A trade sandwich. Yeah, you want to move back from 1724 01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:52,760 Speaker 2: one down to forty, so you'd pick up another three 1725 01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:56,639 Speaker 2: conceivably there. And then he wants to trade up from 1726 01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,439 Speaker 2: fifty nine to forty one, so he wants back to 1727 01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:01,360 Speaker 2: back pick at forty and forty one. So you're probably 1728 01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:03,920 Speaker 2: coughing up that three you just got right, and so 1729 01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:06,760 Speaker 2: you're basically giving up twenty seven and fifty nine to 1730 01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:10,040 Speaker 2: pick forty and forty one because he thinks. 1731 01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:10,439 Speaker 1: I'm good with that. 1732 01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:13,560 Speaker 2: That's fine if you got Jack Campbell, you know, and 1733 01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,240 Speaker 2: a wide receiver and Jalen. 1734 01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,200 Speaker 1: Hyatts, he's a name. 1735 01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:21,000 Speaker 3: But I don't know, I'm having a hard time getting 1736 01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:22,719 Speaker 3: excited about any of these receivers. 1737 01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:24,680 Speaker 2: That guy's one hundred and seventy eight pounds at six 1738 01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:25,200 Speaker 2: foot one. 1739 01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:29,240 Speaker 1: I like the roster the way it is now myself. 1740 01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:31,200 Speaker 3: I know I'm kind of in a minority of that 1741 01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:33,320 Speaker 3: for most Bills fans because I think the more the better. 1742 01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:38,680 Speaker 3: I like Sherfield and I love Hardy, the guys they 1743 01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:42,360 Speaker 3: got on in free agency along with Gabe Diggs. 1744 01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:47,200 Speaker 1: The guys they've got I just Khalis Shakir. 1745 01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:52,160 Speaker 3: I like that roster, and like I said, I was 1746 01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:55,920 Speaker 3: telling guys today I'm everybody knows, I'm like all in 1747 01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:58,759 Speaker 3: on this team. This is a team that's roster before 1748 01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,360 Speaker 3: this draft is good enough to win the division and 1749 01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:02,760 Speaker 3: go to and win the Super Bowl. 1750 01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:05,040 Speaker 1: This draft is gravy. They're cherry. 1751 01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:07,120 Speaker 3: It's gonna be cherry on the cake if they get 1752 01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:10,120 Speaker 3: somebody who can actually help. But right now, if this 1753 01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:14,559 Speaker 3: roster will to stay complete, one hundred percent healthy, they're 1754 01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:19,200 Speaker 3: gonna they'll they'll go. They'll may lose three games again, 1755 01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:20,519 Speaker 3: and they won't lose them by a total of eight 1756 01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:22,040 Speaker 3: they'll lose them by less than a total of eight 1757 01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:23,880 Speaker 3: points the way they did last year. I mean, that's 1758 01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:26,599 Speaker 3: the way this team is. Josh gives them that chance. 1759 01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:29,840 Speaker 3: James Cook gives them that chance. Dawson Knox gave Davis 1760 01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:33,519 Speaker 3: Steph Diggs. This new refurbished offensive line getting a little younger, 1761 01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:35,400 Speaker 3: and if they stay healthy, they won't have to be 1762 01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:40,160 Speaker 3: you know, Defenser Brown will play better. Yeah, they're yeah, 1763 01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:47,240 Speaker 3: this roster. To me, this draft is just about hood 1764 01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:50,840 Speaker 3: ornaments and paint jobs. This is not about an engine. Okay, 1765 01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:52,320 Speaker 3: this roster's got its engine. 1766 01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:54,840 Speaker 2: We'll take a break here, take a couple more phone calls. 1767 01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:56,640 Speaker 2: When we come back here on Draft Day on one 1768 01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:59,400 Speaker 2: Bill's Live presented by Colida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. 1769 01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:18,759 Speaker 2: All right, a reminder for our draft coverage tonight, Maddy 1770 01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:23,040 Speaker 2: glab and myself will be providing instant reaction right after 1771 01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:26,160 Speaker 2: the Bills pick. We will be doing the live stream 1772 01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:29,679 Speaker 2: on Buffalo Bills dot Com, on the Facebook Live page, 1773 01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,160 Speaker 2: the Bill's Facebook Live page. We'll be on the Twitter 1774 01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:36,000 Speaker 2: handle as well as the Bill's mobile app. Maddie and 1775 01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:39,360 Speaker 2: I will break down the pick right after it's made Tonight. 1776 01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:43,400 Speaker 2: We'll have Greg Cosell, senior producer from NFL Films, joining 1777 01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:47,080 Speaker 2: us to break down the makeup of said player, and 1778 01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:50,840 Speaker 2: then we'll take you straight to the Brandon Bean press 1779 01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:53,519 Speaker 2: conference at the end of night one, So be sure 1780 01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:57,240 Speaker 2: to tune in on all of those channels. Pick whichever 1781 01:27:57,360 --> 01:28:02,439 Speaker 2: one you wish. Steve going to quickly give our little 1782 01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:06,160 Speaker 2: pod of players that we think could be picked. Twenty seven. 1783 01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:09,600 Speaker 3: Go okay, one, we believe Brownie knife the pick up 1784 01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:12,080 Speaker 3: twenty seven instead of trading out of trading Van Allad Yuck. 1785 01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:15,000 Speaker 3: One of these four players or five players in Brownie's case, 1786 01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:17,479 Speaker 3: are going to be a Buffalo Bill. My four players 1787 01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:21,720 Speaker 3: are Joe Tipman center out of Wisconsin, Jordan Addison, wide 1788 01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:24,799 Speaker 3: receiver out of USC, Jack Campbell, linebacker out of Iowa, 1789 01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:28,599 Speaker 3: or Brian Brasci defensive tackle out of Clemson. 1790 01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:31,720 Speaker 2: Okay, we've got a couple of overlaps. I too had 1791 01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:34,920 Speaker 2: Jordan Addison on my list. I also had Brian Brezze 1792 01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:40,240 Speaker 2: on my list. Additionally, I have Anton Harrison, the Oklahoma tackle. 1793 01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:44,760 Speaker 2: I have Drew Sanders, the Arkansas linebacker, and I have 1794 01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:48,840 Speaker 2: Will McDonald, the edge rusher from Iowa State. There's just 1795 01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:51,160 Speaker 2: a sense that I have that there the value is 1796 01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:52,840 Speaker 2: going to be on the defensive side of the ball. 1797 01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:54,240 Speaker 2: By the time we get down there. 1798 01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:57,639 Speaker 3: It will be Yeah, maybe maybe there's a run on defenders. 1799 01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:01,280 Speaker 3: Maybe teams are going to start soaking up defensive players 1800 01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:03,639 Speaker 3: rather than offensive players. You know, we've always talked about 1801 01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:05,880 Speaker 3: the arms race that the AFC is, and how we 1802 01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:07,400 Speaker 3: can kind of get caught up in the wide you know, 1803 01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:08,000 Speaker 3: all that stuff. 1804 01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:10,559 Speaker 1: It may be that these things. Listen, the best players 1805 01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:12,880 Speaker 1: are on the defensive side. Let's get one right. 1806 01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:15,639 Speaker 2: We are out of time for today. Sorry, we couldn't 1807 01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:18,479 Speaker 2: get to everybody waiting on the line for their picks. 1808 01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:24,879 Speaker 2: Four pick twenty seven tonight, But everybody enjoy the chaos 1809 01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:28,840 Speaker 2: that will ensue pretty early in this draft. It's gonna 1810 01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:30,479 Speaker 2: be a wild Yeah, we're going it's gonna be a 1811 01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:32,800 Speaker 2: lot of fun. Brownie and Mad you're gonna be here. 1812 01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:34,840 Speaker 2: I will be watching them. I hope you guys will too. 1813 01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:36,400 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a fun night. And then we'll be 1814 01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:38,479 Speaker 2: back tomorrow at one to break it all down here 1815 01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:39,880 Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live. We'll see that