1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 2: Is it just a coincidence that some of these more 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: que guys. Now you can look at Dame Lillard with 5 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 2: his age, but Jason Tatum and Tyrese Haliburton around the 6 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: same age. You can look back at Kevin Durant maybe 7 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: with his age playing a little bit of a role 8 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: there as well. But is it just a coincidence there 9 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: or is there something else to this? I would say 10 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: this anytime a player goes I got a tender calf, 11 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: I think we're going to look at them differently than 12 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: we would, oh, come on a calf injury, because the 13 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 2: calf injury has led to some achilles tears. Here recently 14 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 2: eight seven to seven to three DP show email address, 15 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 2: DP at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle a DP show 16 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 2: pole question for the final hour of the program. Seat 17 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 2: And by the way, if you're watching on Peacock, thank 18 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: you downloading the app. And the US Senior Open is 19 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: going on this week. It'll be at the Broad Moor, 20 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: Colorado Springs Great Golf Course. It'll be live on NBC 21 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 2: Golf Channel and streaming on Peacock. All right, see what 22 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: do we have for the final hour of this Tuesday program. 23 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 3: Well, we had there the recent series of Achilles tears 24 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 3: in the NBA. Is that a coincidence or there's a 25 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: valid reason. People say there's a valid reason. About sixty 26 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: six percent of the audience have that. A lot of 27 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: people talking about just overuse. Okay, just between the training schedule, 28 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 3: playing late into the season, if you advanced far in 29 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 3: the playoffs, those kinds of things. Okay, we also have 30 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 3: up there. This one was listeners submitted on the Twitter 31 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: more egregious Comeback Player of the Year snub Monica sell 32 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: Us or DeMar Hamlin. 33 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Monica Sellas lost the ESP to Michael Jordan. 34 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 2: She got stabbed during a changeover at a tennis match. 35 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan won the sb Comeback Player of the Year 36 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: because he came back from baseball. Jamar Hamblin came back 37 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: from death. 38 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 3: Yes he and right now got him a slight lead 39 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: at about fifty three percent of that vote. 40 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: But this situation is fluid. Oh I had to hand 41 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: out the SP to Michael Jordan. We're laughing that he 42 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: came back from baseball. And Bill Murray even says to 43 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan, but she got stabbed and she still didn't 44 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 2: win the sp Oh my goodness, that's when I knew 45 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: the voting on the SP's Hmmm, there's something up here, 46 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: all right. Eight seven to seven three DP show operator 47 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: Tyler sitting by PAULI has an achilles tear theory that 48 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: he would like to share, and then we'll talk to 49 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: somebody who actually knows all about this. 50 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 4: I've been thinking about it all morning. It has anything 51 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 4: changed in the past generation the NBA that would cause 52 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 4: this to be more common? And I couldn't think about it. 53 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 5: How about this? 54 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 4: Could the proliferation of the step back jumper over the 55 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 4: past decade plus, both in practice and games, have caused 56 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 4: the rise in calf achilles injuries. Players now practice the 57 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 4: step back, which is going backwards. I would bet putting 58 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 4: more direct pressure on your calf and achilles. And that 59 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 4: shot was not common twenty years ago. It's the norm 60 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 4: in the past ten twelve years. And if you look 61 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 4: at guys Kevin Durant, huge step back guy, Haliburton, Lillard, 62 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 4: everybody who's been injured are big step back jumper guys. 63 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 6: What are your thoughts? 64 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: I haven't given it any thought until you just brought 65 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 2: that up. You know the wear and tear thing because 66 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: you know NBA players have not taken you haven't come 67 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,119 Speaker 2: close to taking on this kind of time in previous generations. 68 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 5: So we can talk about. 69 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: The wear and tearor they don't have more wear and 70 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: teror on the players who used to play eighty eighty 71 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: two games. Now you can say, is there an extra 72 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: round of playoff games? Okay, they do have private planes 73 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: that they're going to. You're not playing like every other night. 74 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: They have the finite facilities for them. So I don't 75 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: know if I do wear and tear. Oh, they've been 76 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: playing aau ball. Okay, you know what they were doing 77 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: back in the sixties and the seventies. They were playing 78 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: on blacktop. They weren't getting into gym's AA. You at 79 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: least you're playing in a gymnasium. When we were growing up, 80 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 2: you played on asphalt. That'll tear you up. So I 81 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 2: don't know about the wear and tear. Now late into 82 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: the season they spread out the NBA, they spent out 83 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 2: the playoffs. It'll be like, oh, you're going to play 84 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 2: on a Sunday and then play on a Wednesday. Plenty 85 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 2: of time. But I don't know if it's if it Chowes. 86 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I once again, maybe it's just a coincidence. 87 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: And we'll talk to doctor Mark Addocks. He's a Harvard 88 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: educated orthopedic surgeon. He'll join us coming up. Aiden in Utah, Aidan, 89 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: thanks for holding what's on your mind. I got a 90 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: bad connection there. 91 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 5: Aiden. 92 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 2: By the way, Adam Silver was on the Club five 93 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: to twenty podcast with Jeff Tigue and had this to 94 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: say about the NBA expanding. 95 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 7: You know, it's interesting. I mean, we had a team 96 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 7: in Seattle before. It's such an incredible market, but many 97 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 7: of my years that the NBA were spent when we 98 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 7: still had a team in Seattle. There's no doubt about 99 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 7: the love for basketball there. And Vegas. You just mentioned 100 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 7: where we are our Summer League. I feel like we 101 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 7: have a team there, Yeah, because you know, the two 102 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 7: weeks or so that Summer League goes, it literally like 103 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 7: it consumes the whole basketball world. Those games when we 104 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 7: first started playing the Summer League, they are those games 105 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 7: were hardly even on television. Now, Sports centers operating out 106 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 7: of Las Vegas studio shows there. They're selling out in 107 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 7: the arena. So like I feel like we already have 108 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 7: a huge presence in Las Vegas. 109 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 5: Okay, that's the commissioner. 110 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: I thought there was momentum, and then he came on 111 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 2: the show and he didn't sound like there was momentum 112 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 2: or he diffused that a little bit where he talked about, 113 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: you know, just got this new deal, you bring in 114 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: two new franchises. Now you got to cut up the 115 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: TV pie a little bit here Do we want Vegas 116 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 2: and Seattle? Do we want Mexico City? And I don't know. 117 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 2: It just didn't feel as a oh, not a foregone conclusion. 118 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: It feels like Vegas is a foregone conclusion. 119 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 5: Yeah see. 120 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 3: And it's tough too when he's like, I mean, we 121 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 3: feel like we already got teams there. Oh oh, you 122 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 3: already have the team. 123 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 2: Oh but not in Seattle, who kind of feels like 124 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 2: it's great, but well we got the marity. 125 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 5: Really. It's courtesy of Club five twenty podcast with Jeff. 126 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 3: Tan What do we need to move on there forever? 127 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 5: Right? All right? 128 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 2: Doctor Mark Addock sees the Harvard educated orthopedic Surgeony's smarter 129 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,119 Speaker 2: than you. Former offensive lineman in fact, won a Super 130 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 2: Bowl with the team formerly known as the Redskins. Doc 131 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 2: good to talk to you again. We gave you our theory, 132 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: or at least Paul had a theory of the step 133 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: back jumper. Would that have anything to do with the 134 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: proliferation of Achilles tears? And then we'll get to your theory. 135 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 8: Well, I mean the. 136 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 9: Step back is not that much force, right, I mean, 137 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 9: you've seen running backs tear as they go to step 138 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 9: back to accelerate forward. But I mean you also see 139 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 9: achilles tears where guys are going to cut, and so 140 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 9: do I think the step back is more force than 141 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 9: someone running full speed and going to cut and push 142 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 9: off the leg? 143 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 8: No, I mean, I really don't think so. I don't 144 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 8: think it's it's. 145 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 9: Just because guys are doing more step backs that you're 146 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 9: going to see more Achilles tares. 147 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 8: The other thing is it used to be that you didn't. 148 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 9: Even worry about an achilles tear in an athlete that 149 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 9: wasn't around or beyond thirty years of age, and now 150 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 9: you're seeing these twenty two, twenty five year olds get hurt. 151 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 8: It really is. It really is crazy. 152 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 5: Okay, So what's your theory? 153 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 8: So my theory is twofold one. 154 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 9: I think that athletes now are a little bigger a 155 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 9: little stronger, a little faster, a little more explosive. The 156 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 9: other one is is that it used to be when 157 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 9: you weren't playing sports, you were still active, do you know. 158 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 8: What I mean? 159 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 9: When you weren't playing your particular sport, you still were 160 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 9: running around and you were on your feet all day long. Now, 161 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 9: I think that most recreation is sedentary, whether it's you know, 162 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 9: cable TV, whether it's streaming, whether it's video games. 163 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 3: You know. 164 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 9: I mean, I just think that people are more sedentary 165 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 9: when they're not doing their sport. And so the combination 166 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 9: of having bigger, stronger, more explosive athletes combined with someone 167 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 9: that isn't conditioning their muscles and tendons and all the 168 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 9: time is having a bad effect. 169 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 5: How can it be prevented? 170 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 8: I mean a good question. 171 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 9: I mean, maybe thrown away smartphones and having people walk 172 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 9: around and be active more during the day. 173 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 8: I mean, I don't think. 174 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 9: That's gonna happen necessarily, but I mean, there's got to 175 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 9: be better training techniques. There's got to be better training 176 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 9: techniques to strengthen that muscular tendeness and that tendennis bony junction, 177 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 9: because we definitely are seeing more achilles, but I think 178 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 9: we're even seeing more serious quad, groin, hamstring. I mean, 179 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 9: we're seeing more muscle injuries than we used to. 180 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 2: It feels like, you know, we've mastered hip replacement, Tommy John, 181 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: feels like we've kind of mastered that shoulders are still 182 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: the juries out on shoulders and the achilles. It feels 183 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 2: like it was twelve months now. It feels like coming 184 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 2: back to eight months, nine months. What has changed with 185 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: that surgery. 186 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 9: Well, I mean they are doing them more minimally invasively, 187 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 9: which which obviously eliminates the problem with wound healing, but 188 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 9: it also by by creating less trauma, I think it 189 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 9: allows the body to heal a little bit more naturally. 190 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:20,239 Speaker 8: You know Trell. 191 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 9: Suggs, you know, the outside linebacker pass rush specialist for 192 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 9: Baltimore many years ago. I mean, I think he's kind 193 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 9: of the record. He returned to Sport six months after 194 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 9: one of his achilles. He actually tore both of his 195 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 9: achilles over the course of his career, but he was 196 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 9: over thirty when he did that. But I do think 197 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 9: it's possible now or even more likely more common, to 198 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 9: see guys coming back eight nine months, which still eats 199 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 9: significantly into tyres Heliberts in season next. 200 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 5: Year and Jason Tatum as well. 201 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 8: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, good point, good point of freak stars. 202 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 2: Fritzie got hurt playing pickleball. He wasn't wearing his pickleball 203 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: shoes and. 204 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 5: He has doesn't even know there was such a thing. Yeah, 205 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 5: he has plantar fascis. 206 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 9: Oh by all right, So planet fasci iis one you 207 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 9: want to stretch. So there's a great yoga stretch called 208 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 9: the downward dog because you want to get that stretched 209 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 9: out to get a like a coke bottle twenty once bottle, 210 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 9: fill it with water, freeze it solid and roll that 211 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 9: on the sole of your foot to sort of massage 212 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 9: and ice the planner fascia three. When you sleep your 213 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 9: toast point. So every morning when you get up, you 214 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 9: retear the planet Fascia as it tries to heal overnight. Right, 215 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 9: So they have these night splints that hold your feet 216 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 9: at ninety degree angles. You can buy them on you know, 217 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 9: online on Amazon obviously, So night splints foot, the massage, ice, massage, 218 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 9: the stretch. And then the last thing is you can 219 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 9: buy a harder insert, a carbon fiber insert to go 220 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 9: into the shoe, which sometimes can help protect your planner fascia. 221 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 9: Any sort of an insert like a one of those 222 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 9: Spencote gel heel cups can help too. But that's that's 223 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 9: kind of what I recommend. 224 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: Why didn't my micro fracture surgery work on my knee? 225 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 8: It's it's imperfect, right. 226 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 9: What happens is you poke holes in the bone, and 227 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 9: the idea was that bone marrow would come out and 228 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 9: your stem cells would make new cartilage. 229 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,479 Speaker 8: It was as good as what was there originally. 230 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 9: As it turns out, the cartilage that grows in that 231 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 9: gap is more fibro cartilage. It doesn't wear as well, 232 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 9: it doesn't protect the bone as well, and so it 233 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 9: wears out more quickly and you feel the symptoms. 234 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: Again, what role is stem cell going to play in injuries? 235 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 9: I mean, it's helpful, it's helpful, particularly the younger you are. Obviously, 236 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 9: the more active your stem cells are, and the more 237 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 9: they're gonna they're gonna play a role. I think at 238 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 9: some point we're gonna need to have gene therapy combined 239 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 9: with stem cells so that you have something that is 240 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 9: telling the stem cells what to do. In other words, 241 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 9: I don't think it's going to fix the kne that 242 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 9: needs microfactorre. It's not going to fix arthritis unless you 243 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 9: intervene way earlier. But I think it's going to be 244 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 9: super helpful, and it already is being helpful for muscle 245 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 9: injuries and things that have a better chance to heal. 246 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: What's the one question you get at a party when 247 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 2: you go to you know you're going to get this question. 248 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 8: You know it's different. 249 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 9: So I have the guy who just injured his plan 250 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 9: of fashion playing pick a ball, and I have the 251 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 9: guy that injured his shoulder playing tennis. And I have 252 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 9: a guy that was doing jiu jitsu who injured his hip. 253 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 9: I mean, it's incredible the number of guys that are 254 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 9: my age that are doing jiu jitsu for the first time. 255 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 8: It sounds like a really bad idea to me. 256 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 2: But do they take their shirts off or pants off 257 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 2: that they want to show you an injury? 258 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 8: Thankfully, no, I'm avoiding. I'm avoiding that. 259 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: Good to talk to you again, Doc, Thanks for joining us. 260 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: Doctor Mark Adks He is a Harvard educated orthopedic surgeon 261 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 2: and he was also on Direct TV the Fantasy Zone. 262 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: He was their doctor for nine years and played in 263 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 2: the NFL. Actually won a Super Bowl and he start 264 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: to look at this and I believe in stem cell. 265 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 2: I've mentioned this before that I went to stem cell. 266 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: I have an autoimmune and I went to Panama for 267 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: stem cell. And it's different because they use umbilical cords. 268 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: They work with mothers during the entire pregnancy, and when 269 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: the baby is born, they take the umbilical cord and 270 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: then they take stem cells from that. And then I 271 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: got fifty thousand stem cells put into my arm in 272 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 2: an IV each day for five days when I went 273 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: to Panama, and it took probably five months before I 274 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 2: felt anything. And then I started to feel better because 275 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: I'd gone through a lot of different things, as you know, 276 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: we've documented. But I think it's the future now. They 277 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 2: did shoot stem cells into my shoulder because they thought 278 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 2: maybe that would prevent surgery. It did not, but they 279 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: said you can try it, and you know, tried, it 280 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 2: didn't work. I was there when there was a guy 281 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: who was being treated for ED. He was and yes, 282 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 2: he was getting stem cells shot into his ED and 283 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: and it worked. 284 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 5: It worked. 285 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 2: His wife confirmed. Where you know, when you're there and 286 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: you're like, well, what are you here for? And I go, well, 287 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: you know, I got an autoimmune. But they're going to 288 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: shoot my shoulder and see if blah blah blah. I said, 289 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: what are you here for? 290 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 5: And he goes ED. 291 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: So it was a guy who was from Ohio, Lima, Ohio, 292 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: and I kept calling him Ed the whole time. 293 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 5: When I saw. 294 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: Him, that's good, I said, hey, Ed, how are you? 295 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: And he appreciated that. I go in and get my shoulder. 296 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 2: They did four shots into my shoulder. I could have cried. 297 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 2: I mean I almost cried. It hurts so bad. And 298 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: I went out. I'm kind of embarrassed that, like it 299 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 2: took me to my knees and I felt like I'm. 300 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 5: Such a whimp. 301 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: This guy's getting four shots into his and I'm there 302 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: and I feel terrible that I'm almost to tears. And 303 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: then he comes out and I said how to go 304 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: and he said, I went okay. The doctor comes out 305 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 2: and I said, man, I'm sorry, Doc. It almost brought 306 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: me to tears. He goes, your injections are more painful 307 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: than his. I said, no, no, you remember he's got 308 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: the penis that he goes. No, what you went through 309 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: was more painful. He said, we had an offensive lineman. 310 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: I don't want to give. The team came in the 311 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: previous week, he said, he passed out getting shots into 312 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: his shoulder. I'm like, I'd never do it again. But 313 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 2: stem cell it worked. It's helped me, you know, good days, 314 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: bad days. But I do believe in that. But I 315 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: had to go out of the country because this is 316 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 2: umbilical cords that they're using the stem cell, not your 317 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 2: own stem cells. That was the difference. And uh, you know, 318 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: I'm glad I did it so and if I ever 319 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: need ed, Yes, Paul, what if they got. 320 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 5: You and ed confused? 321 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 4: Well, on surgery day and you came back. 322 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 2: We did joke about that because I said, when I 323 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 2: walked in, I said, I'm the guy taking off his shirt. 324 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 2: He's the guy taking off his pants. Ed, how about 325 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 2: we take a break there, all righty? 326 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 5: Yes, Todd. 327 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 10: Well, the doctor or the surgeon always does ask what 328 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 10: are you here for? They make sure you point to 329 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 10: or well. 330 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 5: They probably say they put an X on you know 331 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 5: where you're going to get your surgery. 332 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 6: I always say, if you don't know what I'm here for, 333 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 6: we're in trouble now. 334 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 2: The first time I had my need done, the guy 335 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 2: goes or the nurse goes here which knee? Wait a minute, 336 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 2: you don't know which need they go you put the 337 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 2: X on your knee, because then if something happens, you 338 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 2: put that X on your knee. 339 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 5: And I went oh. 340 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 6: But initially it sounds like they didn't do their homework 341 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 6: at all. No, I'm not sure what we're doing here today. 342 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 6: Don't help me out. 343 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 2: How about we take a break, okay, because then when 344 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 2: you open it up, he's like, oh, crap, ACL or mcl. 345 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 3: He didn't tell me you were supposed to ask him 346 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 3: before we put him under. You didn't say which one. 347 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 5: And they starts smacking you. Hey, hey, wake up, wake up, 348 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 5: tell us which one is MC? Oh it's ed. Oh 349 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 5: never mind, We're back after this Sunda Dan Patrick show. 350 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 351 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 352 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 353 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: listen live. 354 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 5: Hi, this is Jay. 355 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 11: I'm the producer of the Paul and Tony Fusco Show. 356 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 11: Usually in these promos they asked you to listen to 357 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 11: the show. I'm here to ask you please don't listen 358 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 11: to the show. The hosts are two absolute morons who 359 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 11: have the dumbest takes on sports imagicable. Don't listen to 360 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 11: the show so it can get Camps. 361 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 9: Whoa, what the hell are you doing in our studio? 362 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 6: Get him, Paulie, Ignore that fool. 363 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 10: Listen to the Paulin and Tony Fusco Show on the 364 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 10: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 365 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: He's still moving. 366 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 2: The Celtics traded Drew Holiday to the Blazers for Anthroony 367 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 2: Simons and some draft picks there. That's the first of 368 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 2: probably a couple of moves for the Boston Celtics, and 369 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 2: you're kind of in a tricky spot there without Tatum 370 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: a top five player. Now, how do you re construct 371 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,719 Speaker 2: your roster for at least one year and then Tatum 372 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 2: will come back. It's like the Pacers, what are you 373 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 2: going to do? What can you do? You're not going 374 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 2: to have Halliburton probably for most of the season, but 375 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 2: you don't want to throw away a season. Who can 376 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: you get to fill that role? Because TJ McConnell great 377 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: coming off the bench, You're going to make him a starter. 378 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: You're going to try to get somebody else and and 379 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 2: then how long do you have that person four, because 380 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 2: when Haliburton comes back, you hope he comes back and 381 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 2: plays the way we saw him in the postseason. The 382 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 2: whole modern medicine is fascinating to me. With surgeries, I 383 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 2: was a sophomore in high school and I had played 384 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: so much basketball on asphalt and I went to a 385 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 2: doctor and he said, look like a dog had been 386 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 2: chewing on my knee. And he said if I if 387 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 2: I cut on back, then he said I'd have to 388 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 2: open you up and you're going to be out for 389 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: a year. And I chose not to because my dad said, 390 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 2: can you deal with the pain? And I said yeah. 391 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 2: And then I didn't do anything for ten years, and 392 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, I needed five surgeries and 393 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: then I had a knee replacement. But if I had 394 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 2: done the surgery when I was fourteen and sat out 395 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 2: a year and missed a season of basketball and baseball, 396 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 2: you know, I wasn't willing to do that in retrospect. 397 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 2: You know, that's why when you know you have parents 398 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 2: talking about their kids Tommy John surgery and there's a 399 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 2: physical therapist that I know, and he said that they 400 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 2: come to him they're having Tommy John surgery before they 401 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 2: need Tommy John surgery. He said, there's only so much 402 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 2: information you could give parents to tell them you don't. 403 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: They want to be proactive. They know that you're eventually 404 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: going to have to have Tommy John. Let's have it 405 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: now and make my arm stronger. And he's saying it 406 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 2: doesn't work that way. Let's not do invasive surgery on 407 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: a thirteen or fourteen year old. But you know, with 408 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 2: modern medicine, there's a lot of things that are going on. 409 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 2: The ability to get people back moving with knee surgeries, 410 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 2: even a replacement knee, hip replacement, like all of those things. 411 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 2: Shoulders are still tricky. Both of mine will never be 412 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 2: the same, but I knew that going in stem cell. Look, 413 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 2: it's not for everybody. I'm not saying it's for everybody. 414 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 2: I'm just telling you that I went through hell for 415 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 2: over a decade and with an autoimmune that made me 416 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 2: feel like I had the flu every single day. There 417 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: are days I didn't want to do this job anymore, 418 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 2: days that I didn't think I could do the job. 419 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: But we kept trying to find something. I did a diet. 420 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: My wife thought, let's do homeopathic, Like, oh my god, 421 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: I got then I knew. When we were at the 422 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 2: end of the rope, she goes, what about homeopathic? 423 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 5: I go, okay, So we go see this guy. 424 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 2: I fly to California to see and he said, this 425 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: is what you're going to do. Steamed vegetables every meal 426 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 2: and purified water room temperature. 427 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 5: For three months. How's that sounding? 428 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: And I go, I don't know if my wife can 429 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:11,959 Speaker 2: make enough meals. So breakfast, lunch, and dinner I had 430 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 2: steamed vegetables and purified water. And all I did was 431 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: lose twenty pounds and I. 432 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 5: I just I couldn't do it anymore. 433 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 2: But he acted kind of like the Wizard of Oz, 434 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 2: like he wasn't really telling me. I'd be like, when 435 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 2: do I get to have like a potato or something? 436 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 2: And he said until next time, and then I'd be like, 437 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 2: oh my god. So then my wife got me a 438 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: trip to Normandy for Christmas, thank god, because I told him. 439 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 2: I said, look, I'm going to break this diet. I'm 440 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 2: going to France and he said for how long? I 441 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 2: said ten days? He said, enjoy. I never I never 442 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 2: went back to him. Well you guys saw what I 443 00:23:58,960 --> 00:23:59,479 Speaker 2: was eating. 444 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 5: Oh my god. 445 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, Pauline, I remember we remember the steamed everything era. 446 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 4: It may have been the longest three months of our lives. 447 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 5: Not so much. 448 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 4: You would be walking around and seat would have like 449 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 4: a bagel or I would have like a brat on 450 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 4: a Friday, and you were just throwing daggers at us. 451 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 2: I was a miserable person, but I didn't feel any 452 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 2: better because he said, you got all these metals in 453 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 2: your body and we're gonna get those out. Your body 454 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 2: is an amber alert. 455 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 5: I said, what's that mean? 456 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: You've got you've got some metals that are in the 457 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 2: in the purple. They're not supposed to be in the purple. 458 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 2: It's an amber alert. I said, okay, And then I 459 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 2: had purified water room temperature and steam vegetables room temperature. 460 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 5: Yes, So we go. 461 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: To dinner and then I would say do you have 462 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 2: steam vegetables? They said yes, yeah, that'll you know with 463 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 2: your steak or what. I said, No, no steam vegetables. 464 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 5: That was it. 465 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 2: And I said, can you make my water room temperature? 466 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 2: But I tried it. 467 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 3: I tried it temperature waters where they're just messing with me. 468 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 6: Now purify that for me. 469 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 5: Do do you? 470 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 12: Well? 471 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 2: We had to get the purify system that we have 472 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 2: in the kitchen. I said to the big german, I said, 473 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 2: I gotta have purified water, and he goes, okay. So 474 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 2: you know we've had that for since we moved in. 475 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 6: But high maintenance, man, that's a lot of high. 476 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: I remember that we had Alan who worked in the back. 477 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: He was our technician. The old Man cave, you had 478 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: to go up the steps, so we were above a 479 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 2: bar and you had to go up the steps. Alan 480 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 2: would have to spot me. Alan would stand behind me. 481 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 2: I couldn't physically climb the steps. Oh woe is me? Yeah, 482 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 2: and Alan would be behind me in case I fell 483 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 2: because I could not climb the steps some days. And 484 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 2: then once I got here, thank god I had this show, 485 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 2: because then I forgot about it for three hours. 486 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 5: But you know, you know when I. 487 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: Hear that people struggle and they're looking for things, you know, 488 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 2: I empathize with you because there's a lot of doctors 489 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 2: out there that you think they know what they're talking about, 490 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 2: and they didn't know what they were talking about. And 491 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 2: I mean I probably could have gotten you know, my master's, 492 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 2: could have become a doctor probably through the last ten 493 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 2: to twelve years, everything I went through. They're like no, no, no, no, 494 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 2: I don't have lime disease. 495 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 5: Are you sure? 496 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 12: I go? 497 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 2: I know, I don't have lime disease, you know, and 498 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 2: you're teaching them. 499 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think it's probably pretty tricky 500 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 3: to have to figure that out, like a situation like yours. 501 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 3: Like if you're like doctors, it's a little bit of 502 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 3: a needle in the haystack sometimes, I think. So when 503 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 3: they're checking down things like lime disease and all that, 504 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 3: they sort of have to go through that, right, yeah, 505 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 3: in order to help diagnose you. 506 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 5: But they didn't have answers because I said, how did 507 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 5: I get this? We don't know. How do I get 508 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 5: rid of this? We don't know. Well, if you start there, 509 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 5: you're in trouble. 510 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 3: That's science, though, right I guess, yeah, you know, I 511 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 3: mean that's medicine. I don't know. Trying to figure it out. 512 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, I went through a lot, but 513 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 2: at least I have an understanding of what it's all about. 514 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 5: So people who have. 515 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 2: Autoimmune you know, there is no quick fix or any 516 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 2: of that. It's really trying to find what works for you. 517 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 2: And it took me twelve years, and even then, I 518 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 2: go to Panama for stem Cell. 519 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 5: I don't know where I'd be going. 520 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 2: After this, although they say, hey, Germany and Turkey are 521 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 2: doing really interesting things. 522 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 5: I would have taken the first flight. It didn't matter. 523 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 4: Stem Cell tour. 524 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 5: I would have whatever they said. 525 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 2: I mean, if you do purified you know, water and 526 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 2: steam vegetables for three months, you're willing to do just 527 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 2: about anything. 528 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 5: Yes, bully. 529 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 4: Why is there just one disease out there? That's the 530 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 4: curious ice cream and bacon? Just one like a gallbladder? 531 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 4: I got it, you know, duck, I got a gallblet. 532 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 4: You know, eat more bacon. 533 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 2: You know what I think McDonald's. McDonald's gonna make you 534 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 2: feel better? 535 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 6: Okay, gotta tighting some quarter pounders. I don't know what's 536 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,719 Speaker 6: going to happen to Yes, Marvin, it was always awkward 537 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 6: during meat Fridays. 538 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 5: Oh, Marva, how is it? 539 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 2: Oh? 540 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 6: It's great. 541 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 8: Oh, I'm glad you like you? Yeah? No, bleat, bleep, bleep? 542 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 6: Whoa What did I do? 543 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 2: I know? 544 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 12: I know? 545 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 2: And you know we started the sponsorship with Treger and 546 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 2: so for three months I watched you guys eat food, 547 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 2: and then you know, we even talked about do we 548 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 2: have anything? 549 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 12: Really? 550 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 5: Should we have fancy stuff or just I said. 551 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 2: No, go go kill it, now, kill it, whatever you need, 552 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 2: go after it. It's like an alcoholic who is certain, 553 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 2: you know, a bartender like it's okay, like I'll get 554 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 2: through this. But that first time when we landed in 555 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 2: France to go to Normandy, oh my god, I was 556 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 2: jet lagged and I said, I don't I don't give 557 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 2: a damn. I couldn't have alcohol for three months. The 558 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 2: heck with the steam vegetables. The hard part was no alcohol, 559 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 2: no cigars, no nothing. We landed, I said to my wife, 560 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: I want a cigar, I want some wine, and I 561 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 2: want some great food. 562 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 6: You're in customs. You haven't even gone through yet. 563 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 4: Just popping a cork, that'd be great. 564 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 10: Yes, And most airports probably don't have that steam vegetable 565 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 10: section next to you know, Anti Anne's pretzels and not dogs. 566 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: Well even when you go on the flight, when I 567 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 2: would go on flights and then you know you can 568 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 2: kind of sign up for a vegan diet. But they 569 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 2: didn't even have really what I needed. I said, no, 570 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 2: I need steam vegetables. Well, this has got like a 571 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 2: sauce on it. I said, no, I can't have that 572 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 2: you can't have salt and pepper on it either, And 573 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: I said, could you serve my water room temperature? Man, 574 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 2: not a restaurant, that's sports center. Guy is a diva. 575 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 2: Rick in Texas, Good morning, Rick. What's on your mind today? 576 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 13: Or DP? 577 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 12: How you doing? 578 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 6: Oh? 579 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 5: Spectacular? 580 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 14: Man, I'm just going to reach out. Uh, I'm retired 581 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 14: DPS here in Texas. I was down in a Super 582 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 14: Bowl and we're behind the scenes and. 583 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 6: You know, just before the show. 584 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 14: Was coming up, and I wanted to approach you, but 585 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 14: you were definitely in a buye. Uh it was before 586 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 14: you had your stem cells and got right and appreciate 587 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 14: you true and healthy a gia. 588 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 5: Well thank you. 589 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: I didn't know about how bad I look body language, 590 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 2: but I was. I was in bad shape. Yeah, you know, 591 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 2: I'd walk in a room and you'd be like, what, man, 592 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 2: what's wrong? 593 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 5: Nothing? 594 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 2: I'm good, But my body was in a bad, bad place. 595 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 2: But uh, you know, let's see, I don't know. I 596 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 2: don't even know how long this is gonna last. They 597 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 2: don't even know how long it's gonna last. But I said, 598 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 2: all right, whatever, give it a shot. 599 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:01,719 Speaker 8: Uh. 600 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 5: James in California, Hi, James, what's on your mind. 601 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 15: First time a long time Dan and the Dan love 602 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 15: y'all listen to you every day. I did not have 603 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 15: ED on my DP bingo car today. That's why I 604 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 15: called I'm in. I'm in med device And the surgeon 605 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 15: I worked with, he will we do what we work 606 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 15: in spine and install a lambinectomy. You take bone out 607 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 15: of the spine and it kind of frees up nerve roots. 608 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 15: But every time I was in the room, he would 609 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 15: as the patient was going under anesthesia, he'd go, hey, 610 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 15: your VASEECI me's gonna go fine, And the patient was 611 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 15: fading in santasesia and they'd go nah and may be 612 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 15: out and then they didn't remember when. 613 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 8: They woke up. 614 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 9: But it was always just a running joke. 615 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 15: They were getting a lambinectomy, but he say vasectomy and 616 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 15: there's no no, no. 617 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, nothing like a little medical humor. Todd would 618 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 2: always panic right before he was going under. He would 619 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 2: say to the doctor, Hey, I'm still awake, don't cut 620 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 2: on me. 621 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 6: They put the mask on you and I was still 622 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 6: kind of awakened. I could hear them talking. I'm just 623 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 6: I was saying, don't start yet, I'm still up. 624 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 2: I would think it would be bad business if they 625 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 2: cut on you and you were still away, and. 626 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 6: You would hope. 627 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 10: There's a series of tasks and things that they run 628 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 10: to make sure you're out cold. 629 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm just to make sure. 630 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 6: I was like, I'm not ready, You're not ready yet. 631 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm still up. 632 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 6: I'm still up, I'm still awake. 633 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 5: And thank you for allowing me to share. 634 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 2: Not that you had a choice, but yeah, it's there 635 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 2: are there are a lot of people who suffer, and 636 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 2: you know, after a while, you don't even want to 637 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 2: tell anybody. You're just like there's nothing people to be 638 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 2: How are you feeling great? You know, like I got 639 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 2: tired of saying, uh, crappy Ben in Minnesota? Hi, Ben, 640 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 2: what's on your mind today? 641 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 12: Day? What's upp. 642 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 3: Hey? 643 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 16: So I'm lifting you talk about the autoimmune bit and 644 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 16: my sister is going to the same thing right now. 645 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 16: And I'm not sure if you've ever checked into the 646 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 16: Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota. They have some of the 647 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 16: best doctors all under one roof there. You can't go 648 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 16: wrong there where my sister, her regular doctor wanted to 649 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 16: send her around to multiple that would have taken most 650 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 16: of years to get a diagnosis, she goes to the 651 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 16: Mail clinic, gets everything settled under one roof multiple doctors 652 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 16: can see at the same time. 653 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 12: It's it's amazing. 654 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 5: Number right, thank you. 655 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 2: It's not my autoimmune bit, but thank you Ben for 656 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 2: your sensitive. 657 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 4: Always kails every time I had Steve broccoley. 658 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 5: Tell him about the purified water, worth. 659 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 6: The private admission every time that bit. 660 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 2: Wherever you can find some kind of solace, whatever you 661 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 2: find that's going to help you great. You know, there's 662 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 2: so many great facilities and doctors in the United States. 663 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 2: I went to the Stedman Clinic twelve years ago to 664 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 2: ask about stem cell. They said, what you need is 665 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 2: not available in the United States. So I tried twelve 666 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 2: years ago and that's when I ended up in Panama. 667 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 2: You know who told me about it, Jay Glazer. Jay 668 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 2: Glazer went through real, real back pain and he knew 669 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 2: what I was going through, and he said, you got 670 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 2: to try this, just try it. 671 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 5: And I said, I have nothing to lose. 672 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 2: My wife and I we took, you know, a week 673 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 2: off from the show, went down there, and you know, 674 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:35,240 Speaker 2: Glazer goes down there frequently, frequently with his wife and 675 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 2: he loves the place that you know, he told me 676 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 2: about white glove treatment. It was great, but once again, 677 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 2: it's for what you need. Your autoimmune could be different 678 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 2: than mine, probably is, and the treatment is different as well. 679 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 2: Let's take a break here, put on my broadcaster hat 680 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 2: and take off my scrubs. 681 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 6: Here, got a little deep parent. 682 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,280 Speaker 5: That's how you win sports. Emmy stodda work for it. 683 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 4: I thought the steam water whatever year was going to 684 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 4: be ours when they heard that story. No steam veste vegetables, 685 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 4: tepid water year. 686 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, probably Dan Rolovsky had something, some 687 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 2: medical thing that you know, he went through and the 688 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 2: NFL Live ended up winning. 689 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 3: You know, well, I mean, if we're talking about comeback players, 690 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 3: that's you versus Dan Roloski is clearly dan Orlovsky. He 691 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 3: ran out of the back of the end zone. Yeah, 692 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 3: you were dealing with a debilitating disease. I'm Monica Sellis 693 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 3: as Michael Jordan, makes sense to me. How about we 694 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 3: take a break, no offense, Let's take a break. We're 695 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 3: back after this. 696 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 697 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: Patrick Show week days at nine am Eastern six am 698 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP. 699 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 5: Final results of the pole question, Seaton. 700 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 2: We'll get to this day in sports history as well 701 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 2: on a few more phone calls. 702 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 3: The recent series of Achilles tears in the NBA. There's 703 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,240 Speaker 3: a valid reason for that. That's staying at about sixty 704 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,240 Speaker 3: six percent. And then the most egregious comeback player snub 705 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,479 Speaker 3: Monica sell Us or DeMar Hamlin. DeMar Hamlin's got fifty 706 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 3: three percent of that vote. 707 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 2: People might not remember Monica sell Us, but it was 708 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 2: There was a what was his name? 709 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 5: Gunther? Yeah, gun the something. 710 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 3: Dude jumped out of the stands and stabbed or on 711 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 3: the court. 712 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 5: But he was a Stephie Groff fan. 713 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 2: Oh then I get it, Yes, and I think Monica 714 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 2: was playing stuffy or didn't want Monica. Monica I'd have 715 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 2: been number one player in the world. And he he 716 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 2: stabbed Monica Sellas in the back, Yes. 717 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 4: Gunter parsh Umla, which is a telltale side. 718 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 5: Did he go to prison? Yeah? 719 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 12: Okay? 720 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 5: Is he still in prison? 721 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 6: Check? 722 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 5: Okay? Yes? 723 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 10: Whatever happened to just good old fashioned heckling. If you 724 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 10: don't like, could you just boo? You really gotta start 725 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 10: taking out. 726 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 6: Stuff like that. 727 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 2: Thank you to thank you. The Oklahoma City parade's going 728 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 2: on right now. 729 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, they just got rolling on the Okay. 730 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 5: Alrighty, all right. 731 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 2: Parade respectably, uh JJ and Florida, Hi JJ, Dan, Yeah. 732 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 13: Are you today, sir? 733 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 12: Great? 734 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 13: I'd like to like a trash Oklahoma City Thunder for 735 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 13: just a bit. I used to be a great fan 736 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 13: of the Seattle SuperSonics, back to the debth Lis Shrimp 737 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 13: and Ricky Pierce and carry the Glove Peyton Shank Kemp times. 738 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 13: And when the late. 739 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 17: Co lab Ar Commissioner Stern allowed them to be moved 740 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 17: to Oklahoma ruined basketball for me. So I'm really unhappy 741 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 17: and not real thrilled if I still call them the 742 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 17: Superstonics won the championship. 743 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 13: That's for the next NBA team goes. 744 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 5: All right, thank you JJ. I don't know. 745 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I hope Seattle is a wonderful place, certainly 746 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 2: in June. It's a beautiful place to visit in June. 747 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 2: And I thought the crowds were great, and I love 748 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 2: those teams. They were fun. I worked sidelines. I was 749 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 2: the ESPN radio sideline, so I was doing Sports Center, 750 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 2: but I said, I want to be I want to 751 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 2: be there on the court. I want to be as 752 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 2: close as possible, and Fred Carter got to do the 753 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 2: Bulls because he was friends with Jordan, and I had 754 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 2: become friends with George Carl, so I got to do 755 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 2: the Seattle SuperSonics huddle and you could just listen in 756 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 2: and then they go down to you and say, you know, 757 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 2: here with the Sonics Dan Patrick, and I'd say, you know. Basically, 758 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 2: George Carl was saying two down, which meant set a pick, 759 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 2: let Gary Payton come out and get the ball. That 760 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 2: was basically all George was saying. But it was great. 761 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 2: I loved it. I loved being that close to it. 762 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 2: All righty U Bob in Montana? Hi Bob, what's on 763 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:57,439 Speaker 2: your mind? 764 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 12: Oh? Hey, DP, I'm beginning to think I'm the patron 765 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 12: saying a bad pie of the face bets first to 766 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,919 Speaker 12: heat go down. Then the Sports Emmys people mess things 767 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 12: up yet again, and then Halliburn's on pace for sixty 768 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 12: points and then he goes down and the Pacers falling seven. So, 769 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 12: and of course I doubled down with Marvin. So now 770 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 12: I need to check in with him to see what 771 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 12: his favorite flavor of booze is, if he likes tequila 772 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 12: or bourbon or whatever he likes, because obviously I didn't. 773 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 12: I didn't come through on my bed again. 774 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 5: Why didn't you send some tequila? 775 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 12: Some tequila? 776 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:38,240 Speaker 5: Yeah okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, ooh okay. 777 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 12: I don't know if they make tequila and montana, but 778 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:41,280 Speaker 12: I'll look. 779 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 5: Oh okay, all right. 780 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 6: Yeah. 781 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 2: I stumbled upon this tequila and I don't have my 782 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 2: phone with me, but all of a sudden I used 783 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 2: to buy this tequila. And then I go into the 784 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 2: store and the guy goes, yeah, we can't get anymore. 785 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 2: I go, wait, what happened? So I don't know, all 786 00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 2: of a sudden, somebody, you know, became this underground own 787 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 2: thing where people are loving this tequila. 788 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 5: Like damn it, I should have known this. 789 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 10: Yes, Tom, you just start yelling at the guy like 790 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 10: I did to the girl. 791 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 2: I did not, No, I didn't. I just said okay, 792 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,720 Speaker 2: all right, thanks. What did I learn today? 793 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 5: Todd? 794 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 10: Doctor Mark Addix thinks if people were more active and 795 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 10: engaged in better 796 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 6: Training techniques, perhaps we'd have less torn achilles