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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Pros MLB. This is the

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Baseball podcast. That's right, We're back baby in the

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Speaker 1: off season. It's me Joey Pajo. Pi's appear with me

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Speaker 1: of course is my boy the Welsh. And today we're

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Speaker 1: gonna take a look at dynasty rankings. Where is the

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Speaker 1: top one hundred right now, who's rising, who's falling? A

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Speaker 1: hard look at the top twelve two in the assets

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Speaker 1: that you need because we know this is the time

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Speaker 1: of year where a lot of dynasty startups are beginning,

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Speaker 1: and of course a lot of dynasty team evaluations are happening.

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Speaker 1: So why should I going to do a deep dive

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Speaker 1: on that top one hundred players, give you some takes

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Speaker 1: of some guys that we think are noteworthy and Welsh,

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Speaker 1: I know we're in the thick already preparing for the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six MLB season. Make sure everybody should subscribe

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Speaker 1: as well. I'm writing Black Book. You're writing Black Book

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Speaker 1: that should be out December fifteenth on the Amazon. So

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Speaker 1: that's a nice Christmas slash holiday present to everyone who

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Speaker 1: loves baseball out there and I'm writing up the pictures,

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Speaker 1: you're writing up all the prospects, and this is prospects season, right,

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Speaker 1: You're out there in the AFL. You're seeing some of

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Speaker 1: these guys too that we're going to talk about today.

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Speaker 1: So this is a great opportunity to kind of take

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Speaker 1: a step back and kind of look at the big

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Speaker 1: picture when it comes to dynasty leagues.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly right, because you know, when you're looking

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Speaker 2: at like whether it's a startup or you know you've

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Speaker 2: redraft to maybe even top one hundred. The things that

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Speaker 2: are close, the biggest, most dramatic differences usually have to

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Speaker 2: do with age, and it has to do with like

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Speaker 2: doing this kind of risers followers or the dynasty adjustments

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Speaker 2: amazingly talented players that are older end up going on

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Speaker 2: the ranks. Where do some of these young guys who

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Speaker 2: just had big performances. How far can they jump? How

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Speaker 2: far can Junior Camen or Nick Kourgz jump? And then

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Speaker 2: I think probably the most difficult thing for people in Dynasty.

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Speaker 2: And we're going to hit a couple of these. Where

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Speaker 2: do some of the top prospects in baseball rank?

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Speaker 2: Kevin McGonagall, who's out here in the AFL that I'm seeing,

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Speaker 2: Or how about Connor Griffin, who I think is kind

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Speaker 2: Where does he fall into this valuation when he hasn't

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Speaker 2: So those are the things that we're going to be

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Speaker 2: talking about in this And you're going to be able

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Speaker 2: to see an updated Dynasty ranks right around when this

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Speaker 2: show airs over on Fantasy pros. If you guys want

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Speaker 2: to go and check out, you can find my Fantasy

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Speaker 2: Baseball Dynasty ranks. It should be I usually do a

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Speaker 2: so be on the lookout for that. And this is

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Speaker 2: a lot of what we're going to be referencing in

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Speaker 1: All right, let's take a look at the leaderboard here

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Speaker 1: the top twelve. Shoviotani at the top. No surprise there,

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Speaker 2: I didn't think it's a possibility. Like so when I

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Speaker 2: that's not a big argument here. But I think these

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Speaker 2: Then I think it's like with Carol Soto, and then

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Speaker 1: Worry a little bit. Well, I understand. I mean, double

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Speaker 1: got Kurtz, Tatis, Camonaro, Ronald Acunya, and that is all

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Speaker 2: But he proved to be was an absolutely elite power

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Speaker 1: Player now, Nick Kurtz, I don't know if that name

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Speaker 1: he hit three twenty one with a ten to forty ops,

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Speaker 1: six nineteen slugging. The guy was absolutely spectacular. That ballpark

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Speaker 1: couple of years. Nick Kurtz looks like the real deal.

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Speaker 1: And this is one of the many, many meteoric rises

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Speaker 1: six draft class. Right, we're talking about like some great

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Speaker 1: draft classes historically, this looks like one of the great

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I did struggle with him just a tiny

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Speaker 2: also like I feel the confidence level in Junior Camenaro

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Speaker 2: And this is why he's being about evaluated in this range.

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Speaker 1: I think they're very deserving, real quick, before we move

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent does. But it's it's mixed between

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like, yes, Tatusa has got some diceiness.

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Speaker 2: I do think there's the streak that's the question. But

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Speaker 1: All right, the next grouping here starting at number thirteen overall,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker, followed by Gunnar Henderson and Aaron Judge at fifteen,

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Speaker 1: a pause. Roman Anthony obviously was the number one prospect

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think he is the first start. If

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Speaker 2: But the profile to me is what stands out, and

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Speaker 2: lot of his metrics, like they didn't qualify because of it, Pats.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't chase. Yes, he had a high k percentage

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Speaker 2: I think he's like, you know, he's the counting statless

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Speaker 1: And he's a left They can hit lefties two two

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Speaker 1: They're twenty one, your Nolvarez, followed by Pete Crow Armstrong.

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Speaker 2: Catcher, he is I'm gonna tell you this, I might

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Speaker 2: It's like it was an ungodly first half, absolutely ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Expected slug was right around five hundred. He barreled the

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Speaker 2: but he's twenty three years old. He fell just short

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Speaker 2: So this is where you know whether it's evaluations of trading.

431
00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,000
Speaker 2: If if you're risk averse, he might be a player

432
00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,239
Speaker 2: you want to trade out of if you're in a

433
00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,240
Speaker 2: new redraft or a new dynasty draft coming up, if

434
00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,000
Speaker 2: you're risk at verse, you might want to let somebody

435
00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,240
Speaker 2: else take him. And there are you know, older Ish

436
00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,159
Speaker 2: players that are falling a little bit that you can

437
00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,919
Speaker 2: take much safer Rafield Devers you mentioned just much safer

438
00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,560
Speaker 2: player now and I've got him at twenty five. So

439
00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,000
Speaker 2: I'm I'm very torn on where I'm at with Pete

440
00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,640
Speaker 2: Rahms from that's a big way to say it. I've

441
00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,399
Speaker 2: either got him way too high or got him way

442
00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:50,760
Speaker 2: too low.

443
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,720
Speaker 1: I will say this, I will bank my money here

444
00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,359
Speaker 1: on too high. And it's because of the exposure in

445
00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,720
Speaker 1: the second half that the league made it adjustments to him,

446
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,159
Speaker 1: and he really didn't adjust back. And it's not the

447
00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,119
Speaker 1: first time we've seen this too, right, if you go

448
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,120
Speaker 1: back two years ago, he struggled mightily in the beginning,

449
00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,200
Speaker 1: and then he made a couple of adjustments and things

450
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 1: did go better for him, and then it carried over

451
00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,360
Speaker 1: and that's why his ADP was so low last year

452
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,520
Speaker 1: and he was such a league winner. I would rather

453
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 1: in a dynasty league, take a guy that hasn't gotten

454
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 1: exposed yet. I know this might sound crazy, but the

455
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:23,680
Speaker 1: guy we're going to talk about next a guy like

456
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 1: Connor Griffin. I'd rather be earlier on Connor Griffin then

457
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 1: too early on Pete Crow Armstrong as a player who

458
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,480
Speaker 1: may have already flashed the best he could possibly give

459
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 1: us and might not be able to ever hold back

460
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,880
Speaker 1: to that first half standard. I think that's a real

461
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,160
Speaker 1: possibility with Pete Crow.

462
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 2: And I don't disagree with that. The thing I would

463
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 2: also say is, like I do think in season adjustments

464
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 2: can be really hard for some players. Some players do

465
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 2: it really well, some don't. So something to watch again

466
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 2: would be can Pete Crow adjust in this offseason into

467
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,119
Speaker 2: the next half, and can those adjustments be to the

468
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,959
Speaker 2: level where the league isn't going to readjust again? And

469
00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,120
Speaker 2: that's what I think is interesting about him, because it's like,

470
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,919
Speaker 2: you know, he hit the ball harder, he barreled up

471
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 2: the ball more, he had a twenty degree launch angle.

472
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 2: You know, he's pulling the ball thirty percent pulled air

473
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 2: percentage dramatically different, and he doesn't have a big strike

474
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,879
Speaker 2: up problem. So can the adjustments that he makes in

475
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,399
Speaker 2: the offseason be ones that are sticky enough that the

476
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,119
Speaker 2: league isn't going to then readjust and he completely falls apart.

477
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,199
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's why it's kind of hands up

478
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 2: with Pete Crow. You got to You've got to take

479
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,159
Speaker 2: your stance. You gotta be like, hey, listen, if he

480
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,160
Speaker 2: does readjust, this could be a forty to forty guy.

481
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 2: I love what he did in the first half. He's

482
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 2: a monster. Or you gotta be like it is way

483
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 2: too risky. I'll let anybody else do it. It's just

484
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,679
Speaker 2: he's a super young young guy in that dynasty's built around.

485
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 1: I think that the other side of that coin would

486
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,880
Speaker 1: be potentially the empty batting average twenty five twenty guy,

487
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 1: you know. Like I was just kind of like, well,

488
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 1: you know, and you can find that. You can find

489
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 1: that in a lot of spots.

490
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,199
Speaker 2: Trevor Stor Trevor story was like, I was at the

491
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 2: top two hundred, and he's older and he was a

492
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 2: twenty twenty guy, So yeah, I definitely don't disagree.

493
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 1: He also has a career two o eight batting average

494
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 1: against lefties, too, so this is nothing new. He really

495
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 1: hasn't made the adjustment yet at the big league level

496
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 1: and the minor league too. That was one of the

497
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 1: knocks on him. He was in the Mets system too.

498
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 1: Let's move on to Connor Griffin, who's coming in at

499
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 1: thirty four on our list here. Obviously a terrific minor

500
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 1: league debut for him over a high A in Double

501
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 1: A combined one hundred and twenty two games, he had

502
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,640
Speaker 1: twenty one homers, drove in ninety four runs, stole sixty

503
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 1: five bases, Welsh hit three thirty three with a nine

504
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:29,439
Speaker 1: to forty one ops. Just stunning numbers. My guess is

505
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 1: that he'll start the year again in Double A for

506
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 1: April because it's the Pirates and they're going to slow

507
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,479
Speaker 1: play everybody because it's the Pirates, and there's labor issues

508
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: looming in twenty twenty seven potentially for MLB, so I

509
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: think it'll be a slow burn. I don't know when

510
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 1: we're going to see him, but I do think he

511
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 1: restarts again in Double A. Do you think he goes

512
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: right to Triple A out of the.

513
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 2: Gate, No, I don't think so. I mean, he's a

514
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 2: nineteen year old kid and we're now moving out of

515
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 2: this area where we're giving you like the top twenty

516
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 2: five numerically, and we're kind of going in these blocks

517
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,719
Speaker 2: and tiers and this tier of this twenty six through

518
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 2: fifty range where we're going to talk about a couple players.

519
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 2: Connor Griffin was the number one standard that we had

520
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 2: to talk about because, like I said before, I think

521
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 2: he is one of the most difficult players for people

522
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 2: to understand the ranking evaluation because, like we said, Kevin

523
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 2: McGonagall could come out the gates and break camp with

524
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 2: the team. They almost brought him up this year. Connor

525
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 2: Griffin is not. He's going to go back to Double A.

526
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 2: That would be again, that's my assumption. He moves three levels.

527
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 2: This past year. He had twenty one games at Double A,

528
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 2: so that to me screams he goes back to Double A,

529
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 2: plays a decent amount of the season, goes to Triple A.

530
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 2: Could there be a call up? Yes, no idea. How

531
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 2: teams are going to treat the pending strike that's going

532
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 2: to happen, the looming strike. Are they going to be

533
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 2: more aggressive in bringing players up knowing that they're not

534
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 2: going to relent and they're going to buy down time.

535
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 1: I don't know.

536
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going to happen. So I don't

537
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 2: know how aggressive, but we do know the Pirates don't

538
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 2: win games and they're not hyper aggressive with prospects in general.

539
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 2: This would be a guy that you want. So all

540
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 2: of that aside here taking that out, the reason that

541
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 2: Conor Griffin goes so high when he could have zero

542
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 2: production for you this coming year is because he's an

543
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 2: absolute freak. Twenty one homer, sixty five stolen bases, He

544
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 2: had a three four six I believe slash three point

545
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 2: thirty three with a four to fifteen OBP. The stolen

546
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 2: base is a ridiculous already back working. To me, it

547
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 2: is a discussion between him and McGonagall. Is the number

548
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 2: one prospect. It is Connor Griffin by a country mile.

549
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 2: He's a big dude. I was hoping we'd see him

550
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: here in the Fall League. And even though the team

551
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 2: context you can maybe argue about like hitting prospects with

552
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: the Pirates, I think he is like a unicorn type

553
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 2: of prospect. So because of the age, because he could

554
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 2: be he could be a guy at twenty years old

555
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 2: in the majors. He could easily be the next Roman

556
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 2: Anthony with bigger, louder stats. Here, and unlike the guys

557
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 2: that we put at the top that are super young,

558
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 2: like Nick Kurtz and Junior Camenero, there is stolen base

559
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 2: potential through the wazoo here. So I think he is special.

560
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: There's not strikeout problems. He kind of does everything. He's

561
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 2: epitome of a five tool player. You could argue that

562
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 2: this is too low. If if you were a team

563
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 2: that is rebuilding, I would view Connor and you're in

564
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,719
Speaker 2: an already established dynasty, I would view Connor Griffin as

565
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 2: a top twenty player. If you are starting up a

566
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 2: new dynasty, sometimes you take stances if you're a team

567
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 2: that's like, you know what, because I always suggest maybe

568
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 2: go like win now. But if you're a team that's

569
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 2: like I want to be youth or I'm going to

570
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 2: play for the next year, that's what people do. Connor

571
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 2: Griffin should be ranked higher. He should go in the

572
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 2: top twenty. That would be the evaluation of him. But

573
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 2: I've got him. As you said, on this twenty six

574
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 2: through fifty board, he is thirty fourth on my dynasty ranks.

575
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: All right. On thirty nine, we have Kyle Schwarber coming

576
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: off a huge season. Obviously, fifty six home runs. It's

577
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,719
Speaker 1: coming to Philadelphia. He has hit thirty eight or more

578
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: home runs in every season. He is driven in ninety

579
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: four or more runs at every season. The batting average

580
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: is always going to be in the two thirty ish

581
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: two forty range. We know that, we know who he is,

582
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: and he is going to be thirty three years old.

583
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: So obviously coming off a massive season for Kyle Schwarber,

584
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: but in Dynasty, the player who is now on the

585
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 1: other side of thirty So do you think I guess

586
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 1: here's the question is, like, do you feel comfortable here

587
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: with this ranking that you've got him in? Yeah?

588
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,479
Speaker 2: So this this so like how difficult Connor Griffin is.

589
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 2: Koshwarb's is difficult because of everything they're said. Also like

590
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 2: he's probably going to be like util only and he's

591
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: thirty two years old and he and all of this

592
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: stuff that's out there. Also where he's going to play

593
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: is kind of looming. The problem is is he just

594
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 2: hit fifty six homers. He also stole ten bases, He

595
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: hit two forty and he's going to dh and he

596
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 2: could do that for quite a long period of time.

597
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 2: I have a valuation of my ranks of like three

598
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 2: year windows roughly. So if I think a player can

599
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 2: still produce at a really high level for three more years,

600
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: regardless of their age, I'm probably going to rank them

601
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: relatively high. I mean, self judge is like, you know,

602
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 2: like a top fifteen guy. Short's kind of the same thing.

603
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 2: I think he's kind of under heralded. He easily could

604
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,719
Speaker 2: have four to five more very very productive years, and

605
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 2: he's getting better. He's aging like fine wine. So it

606
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 2: does make me feel uncomfortable because of the position stuff.

607
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: But again, at the two years old, he just hit

608
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 2: fifty six homers install ten pass so I think the

609
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 2: floor is something like a two forty hitter with forty

610
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: homers on a year and a year out basis. So

611
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 2: that's why he's got to be ranked this high. And

612
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: I'll throw this out to you, maybe not from a

613
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: batting average standpoint, but players like Kyle Schwarber who fall

614
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 2: in Dynasty ranks, Freddy Freeman is going to fall. Those

615
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: are the type of players that allow you the ability

616
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 2: to take shots on guys like Pete Crow. If you

617
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: want to take that shot on Pete Crow knowing you

618
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 2: could get a I know we're not talking about him,

619
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: but if Freddy Freeman three four rounds later, that can

620
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 2: protect the batting average and give you three or four

621
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 2: more years. That's why you can do some of these things.

622
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: And Kyle Schwarber is is kind of one of those

623
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 2: players as well. Except you can't do Schwarber and Otani though.

624
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: That's the little cavet.

625
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: Because I'm more I'm more comfortable to take shwarverer than

626
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: i am Freddy Freeman at the stage too. Just I

627
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: think Freddy Freeman's body's breaking down on him. This seems

628
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: like the last couple of years, whereas where Schwarber, because

629
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: he doesn't play the field, I think he might last

630
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: little longer. I think that, you know, U til is

631
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: a negative in some ways, you know, because it kind

632
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 1: of prohibits you a little bit in terms of flexibility.

633
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: But we saw with David Ortiz, right, he played well

634
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 1: into his late thirties and was extremely productive.

635
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 2: So I'm like, well, everyone falling nice with him, and

636
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: it never happened really.

637
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: Right, never game. I think we just never came. Even

638
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: Nelson Cruz there were some years too were like is

639
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: this it? This is it? This is kept going. Kevin McGonagall,

640
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: the next guy on this list at number forty is

641
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: worth talking about too. This is another big riser of

642
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: the Detroit system. A guy between single A, High A

643
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 1: and double A. Last year A combined eighty eight games

644
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: for him, nineteen homers, eighty RBI, that coveted three four

645
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 1: five slash hit three hundred and had a four hundred

646
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: ozen base percentage and a five eighty three slugging hit

647
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: a nine to ninety one ops. Now, he did steal

648
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: ten bases, but he did get caught seven times, so

649
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: you don't love that. Maybe this dome base skills need

650
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: a little bit more work. But McGonagall a guy in

651
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: prospect circles, even the Arizona Fall League having a good

652
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: Fall league right now, getting a lot of buzz.

653
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's out here. I've seen him quite a

654
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: few times. Mcgonagall's interesting in the real prospect world. I

655
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 2: think it's a discussion between McGonagall and Griffin. I don't

656
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: really think it is in fantasy. I will say I'm

657
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 2: not seeing a lot of the power approach out here

658
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 2: in the AFL. I'd acknowledge it's been a long year.

659
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 2: He had a home run robbed just the other day

660
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 2: by Enrique Bridfield, I think McGonagall is going to be

661
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 2: a heavy doubles hitter. I think he's a quintessential number

662
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: two hitter. I think he could steal quite a bit

663
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: more at the end of the day. I do think

664
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: we might he might be capped around being like a

665
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: twenty twenty guy. The thing is is it could come

666
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: with a really good batting average. He's got a solid approach.

667
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: He's getting attacked a little bit out here as still

668
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 2: a younger prospect. He's getting attacked out here by some

669
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 2: more advanced pitching like relief wise, that I think is

670
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: actually going to help him long term. But it looks

671
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: like he could come up pretty soon. I've got him

672
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 2: at forty, so I've got Griffin ahead of him. You

673
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: have a little bit of proximity in his favor, But

674
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 2: I think at the end of the day, you're going

675
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 2: to see higher homers, probably even runs and stolen bases

676
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: from a guy like Connor Griffin. McGonagall pinning where he

677
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 2: ends up being in the lineup is going to be

678
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 2: a high batting average guy. I think is going to

679
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: be close to twenty twenties. But I don't want to

680
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: discount that he could be a little bit more. But

681
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: that's the valuation of the top two prospects in Dynasty.

682
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 2: It's right around the top forty overall players.

683
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: Zach Neto at forty four is interesting Welsh because as

684
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: a shortstop back to back twenty home run seasons he

685
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: had twenty six last year, he only played one hundred

686
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: and twenty eight games as well. Now the OBP is

687
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: always going to be a little underwhelming. He did raise

688
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: the batting average, though, from two forty nine to two

689
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: fifty seven year over year. The ops went up as well.

690
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: And Neto, I think people forget is only twenty five

691
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: years old.

692
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think I actually might not be the

693
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: highest ranker on him. I think there's some people that

694
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 2: got him inside the top twenty five. There's a little

695
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: bit of miss time that comes into effect on like

696
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 2: how big the counting stats can be. But he had

697
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: a twenty six twenty six seis, twenty six homers, twenty

698
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 2: six stolen bases, eighty two runs, a two fifty seven

699
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: batting average that was supported by an expected batting average

700
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 2: that was higher. He had a better hard hit rate

701
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 2: this past year. Average EXI velocity went up over two

702
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 2: miles per hour and he barreled the ball a whole bunch,

703
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: so like kind of a monster. You just wish he

704
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 2: hit for a higher batting average, but you know, in

705
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 2: a full season with a little bit more like you know,

706
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 2: positive production, he's an easy thirty thirty guy. And again,

707
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 2: what did we say, thirty thirty guys tend to be

708
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: the players in the first round. He was only twenty

709
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: four years old. Hopefully the injury stuff goes away and

710
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: hopefully the Angels at some point bring some other players

711
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: around them, which they never do. But you know Netto's

712
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: hitting profile, he's an offensive first, high profile, pull the ball,

713
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: hit the ball relatively hard, and steal based type of guy.

714
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: This is what you want. This is like, you know,

715
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: like Josh Chisholm gets really pushed up in a lot

716
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: of like dynasty circles like into like the top twenty five,

717
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: Like Netto's in that same range. I might have him

718
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 2: a little bit lower than I should. Zach Nedo at

719
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: forty four, I think he could easily be inside the

720
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 2: top twenty five.

721
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to the next grouping of

722
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: players here on this list, because we have from fifty

723
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: one to seventy five A couple players. We like to

724
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: highlight threes pitchers, specifically at fifty four Brian Wu, at

725
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: fifty five Jacob Mezowski, and at seventy four Bubba Chandler,

726
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: the one that everybody was waiting on and eventually we

727
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: did get. I want to start with Brian Wu because

728
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: last year in the Black Book, this was one of

729
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: my all right, if everything, If he could just hold

730
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: on to everything that he did well in twenty twenty four,

731
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: increase that strikeout rate a little bit, he's gonna be unbelievable.

732
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: And he was. He was a quality start machine last

733
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: year twenty one, tied for second in the major leagues

734
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: twenty five consecutive starts of at least six innings pitched

735
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: with two or fewer walks. That is the secret sauce.

736
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: The XDRA was three ten, the FIP was three forty seven,

737
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: the x FIP was three thirty three, the ERA was

738
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: two ninety four. Everything you could have asked for he

739
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: gave you, I know, the you know the Unfortunately the

740
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: postseason didn't go his way so far in terms of

741
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: how you'd like to perform. But overall, I mean, this

742
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: is a guy that has made a huge leap, and

743
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: I think that that is you know, the building blocks

744
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: here of the Seattle Mariners is the pitching staff, right,

745
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: this is what they've built on. The Kirby, the Gilberts

746
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: and the Woos and Wu. To me, I think doesn't

747
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: get enough credit for how good he was last year

748
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: and how consistent he was last year.

749
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is open to like this could even

750
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,239
Speaker 2: be lower than some people want. Dynasty ranks always kind

751
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: of difficult with pitchers and how your evaluation is. But

752
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, like he made massive improvements.

753
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: You know, his walk rate's super low, he struck out

754
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: a ton more. His expected era was three to eleven

755
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: right around his two nine four era, So I mean

756
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: you love all of that. Like his stuff just got better.

757
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: It's a phenomenal pitching environment, and you know, he kind

758
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 2: of thrust himself into being like the most fantasy relevant

759
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: pitcher of all these guys. I like Kirby, but I

760
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 2: think you know, Wu is past Kirby. I think Gilbert

761
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: still at the top of this list. But I think

762
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you know, like it

763
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 2: is is obviously an advantage to spend on a guy

764
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: like Scoobal or schemes or crochet. I'd put them in

765
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: like a little bucket. But you know, if you can

766
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: get people that don't have an evaluation of a top

767
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: fifty on Brian Wu, that's I think. What's really interesting

768
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: about him is I don't think he has the stigma

769
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: of a top fifty player, but I think he has

770
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: the production. So I've got him right outside of it

771
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: at fifty four. He's right there.

772
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: And it's so interesting because you have Misrowski at fifty

773
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: five and then Chandler at seventy four, but even going

774
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: into next year, I actually have Chandler ahead of Miserowski,

775
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: which is a really interesting debate I think for us

776
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: to have because it's a pretty big gap between these

777
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: two guys. Look, Misroowski, obviously, the strikeout rate is incredible.

778
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: He was dominating a triple A two to twenty seven

779
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: e raver thirteen games, eighty strikeouts and sixty three innings.

780
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 1: He had eleven k per nine at the big league level,

781
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: but a four walk per nine, and those walks really

782
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: killed him at three forty four ERA over his first

783
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: ay games, but then that ERA ballooned to five point

784
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: fifty two over the last seven, so I'm also concerned

785
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: that Misroowski is a Tommy John surgery waiting to happen

786
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: because of the v low, whereas Bubba Chandler. I know,

787
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: like we waited a long time for Bubba Chandler. I

788
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: know it was kind of frustrating at times, and the

789
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: pirates are going to be frustrating because run support it's

790
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: not going to be there. I don't know what happened

791
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 1: to him in that mid section where we were waiting

792
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: for him to come up and then he didn't, and

793
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was pouting or frustrate or whatever

794
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: it was, but eventually he did get called to the show.

795
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: Thirty one innings, thirty one strikeouts, four walks, And I

796
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: think the control for Chandler is a little bit more

797
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: tantalizing to me over the electric fastball of Miserrowski. But

798
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: you obviously see things differently here. So I want to

799
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: get your take on these two.

800
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't. I don't feel

801
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: that it's that much bigger, but it is, like numerically,

802
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 2: it's obviously it's.

803
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: Like twenty spot twenty difference.

804
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 2: But I will say, like you're in a bucket, you're

805
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 2: kind of in like baseball ranks, you start to get

806
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 2: into these buckets where it's like it's a big grouping here.

807
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 2: There's positive and negatives on both of these guys. Like

808
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 2: Bubba came out at the major leagues and had a

809
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 2: really low walk rate that wasn't necessarily the minor league thing. Also,

810
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: he was only affected by one game, which was the Brewers. Ironically,

811
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: we give up niner and runs. Everything else is pretty good.

812
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: They kind of slowed him into coming in after openers

813
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 2: and then he got a few starts in. I thought

814
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 2: there was so much to be positive about. His fastball

815
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 2: looks so good at the end of the year, and

816
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: this is a guy that had evaluation as like the

817
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 2: number one fastball shape in baseball. Misarowski kind of has similarities,

818
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 2: just he was thrust more into that starting role. He

819
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 2: can have some walk issues, but he has absolutely electric stuff.

820
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: This is a risk versus reward thing. I do think

821
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 2: there is a path where Bubba Chandler is the more

822
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 2: valuable player. But I don't want to be dismissive because

823
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: I don't think the Brewers anytime sooner going to put

824
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 2: Miserowski in the bullpen or anything like that. I think

825
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 2: they're going to have a full, long stretch out for him.

826
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 2: I think these guys are actually close, though my ranks

827
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 2: don't quite have it. I might even make a little

828
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 2: bit of adjustment right now it's a little bit more Mizerowski,

829
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: but I think Bubba Chandler is like flying back up

830
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 2: the boards after what he was able to do in

831
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: his major league start.

832
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: Andy Pajis at number seventy, I love I gotta tell

833
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: you this was a player last year going to the

834
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: year I was very high on. I loved what I

835
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: saw him last year in the postseason. Two. He's just

836
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: he's an aggressive player. I like that two seventy two

837
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: batting average him last year, twenty seven homers, eighty six

838
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: ribies for him. He also stole fourteen bases, and he

839
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: played one hundred and fifty six games, more than I

840
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: think a lot of people would have expected. Polis I

841
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,439
Speaker 1: think is a guy that when we get here next year,

842
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: is going to be in that top fifty potentially.

843
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 2: Your thoughts, yeah, underrated. I think some people already have

844
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: him in the top fifty. Something. I'd love to see

845
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 2: hitting with the Dodgers. They're one of the best. Like

846
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: right handed hit right handed, hitting pull ballparks. That's why

847
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 2: Mookie Bets has always really done well. He actually lowered

848
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 2: his pull percentage. I'd love to see him do a

849
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: little bit, and his hard hit rate went down while

850
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 2: his launch angle went down, so like I want to

851
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 2: see the other end. I want to see him pull

852
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: the ball in the air a little bit more. Regardless

853
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: of all that, he still hit twenty seven homers and

854
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: stole almost fifteen bases with a two to seventy average.

855
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 2: Like underrated is one hundred percent. He's kind of like

856
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 2: the Brian Wu I think of hitters where I don't

857
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: know if people like feel where the valuation is of him,

858
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: I would be trying to buy him for anybody that

859
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: views him outside the top one hundred. You could argue

860
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 2: that my rank is maybe even like still a tiny

861
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: bit lower. Like right at seventy, I definitely think he

862
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 2: could easily vault himself into the top fifty with a

863
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 2: few changes. I just don't know if that's in his ballgame,

864
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 2: but it's no doubt a top seventy five dynasty guy.

865
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: All right, next grouping here real quick, seventy to seventy six,

866
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: excuse me to one hundred. Mason Miller obviously a guy

867
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: that you know we're looking at with a live arm, but.

868
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, there's a caveat the only reason I wanted

869
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 2: to put him on here before anything, because I didn't

870
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: put this as a note for you. The reason I

871
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 2: have him here too, I think, I know, oh yeah,

872
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: is that I legitimately think the Padres, who the new

873
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 2: management is and everything, they might consider stretching him out

874
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: as a starter, even if not if he's with the

875
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 2: Padres and he is the closer, having closers as a

876
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: top one hundred dynasty valuation is kind of tough. But

877
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,479
Speaker 2: he's this unique unicorn because like, if he stretches out

878
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: and it works with that type of fastball, like he

879
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: could be a top fIF you're gonna break top Miss

880
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: Rouse getting.

881
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: Year of a guy who qualifies at RP and you

882
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 1: could put him in those megs exactly these spotsible.

883
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: So he's like a special, unique situation.

884
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: No, absolutely, and I'm glad we did touch on him.

885
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: Kyle Stowers at eighty four an interesting one too. It's

886
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 1: funny Jacob Marci had a nice little year for the Marlins,

887
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: and Kyle Stowers had a year that I don't think

888
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: anybody saw coming there. So he is at his twenty

889
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: seven year season, twenty five homers, seventy three RBI, hit

890
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: two eighty eight with a nine to twelve OPS. I

891
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: guess the question is can Stowers repeat those numbers next year? Well?

892
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: Also, I want to point out he did that in

893
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 2: under four hundred of bats, three hundred and ninety nine

894
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: bats which he put up twenty five homers. Can he

895
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 2: repeat you know who knows on that level? Can he

896
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 2: pace out to be a thirty five to forty home

897
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 2: run guy? I don't know, But what I like is

898
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 2: he had a fifty two percent hard hit rate, which

899
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 2: was elite, a nineteen percent barrel rate, which is elite.

900
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 2: His expected batting average at two seventy eight supports him

901
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 2: hitting at two eighty eight. I'd like to see his

902
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 2: strikeouts come down, but they came down eight percent year

903
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: over year, So if he drops that again while walking

904
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: while hitting the ball hard, yes, Coyle Stauers another massively underrated.

905
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 2: We're talking about dynasty risers. Sometimes they're obvious, sometimes they're questionable,

906
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 2: debates of like Kyle Conor Griffin versus Kyles Schwarber, and

907
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 2: then sometimes they're players that people just might not be

908
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 2: up on. Andy Pajus, maybe Cole Stowers. I affirmatively think

909
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: people just don't conceptualize what his value is. And I

910
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: think this is a thirty plus home run hitter that

911
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 2: you can get Marlins.

912
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: Again, we're competitive last year, sure, you know, especially on

913
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: the stretch, just.

914
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: As the Marci and Xavier Edwards hitting in front. By

915
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 2: the way, those are guys that are stealing bases, getting

916
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: on base ors RBI opportunities.

917
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Marcie was an player last year. I picked him

918
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: up in a couple of leagues at the end there.

919
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: Heraldo Perdomo also another guy eighty seven that I think

920
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: might be flying under some radars there for the Arizona Diamondbacks.

921
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: He's gonna be twenty six years old, coming off a

922
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: year where he had twenty homers and one hundred r

923
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: BEHI and sold twenty seven bases, two ninety batting average. Look,

924
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: here's the thing, Welsh, this is a guy in ninety

925
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: eight games the previous season hit three home runs. Now

926
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: he's jumped to twenty. So I think a lot of

927
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: people will go, oh, well, that's interesting. Do you think

928
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: that that will keep player? People away from him, thinking

929
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: this is just not something to chase, or are those

930
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: people going to miss out on a guy in Perdomo

931
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: who might have figured out something really new in a

932
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: different level and benchmark of his productivity.

933
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 2: I think they might miss out and like I want

934
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 2: to be a buyer on him. This is kind of

935
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: like in the Peak Crow, but this is different, herodo.

936
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 2: Perdomo was so good all the time that it's like

937
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 2: I could be too low or too high because this

938
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 2: is all based around like do you believe is this

939
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: going to be? You know, so many guys have that

940
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: outlier season where it's like they never do it again.

941
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 2: Is that for Perdomo? The reason I lean like that

942
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: it's not is, first off, like the protection around. If

943
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: you have Katel and Carol hitting in front or behind him,

944
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: it creates incredible run RBI opportunities. For him to be

945
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 2: able to repeat ninety eight runs over one hundred RBI

946
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 2: is ridiculous. He doesn't strike out, he walks a ton,

947
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: he gets the ball in the air, he upped his

948
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 2: hard hit percentage. Like there's such a great floor that

949
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 2: you could maybe just be like, oh well, the numbers

950
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 2: are just not going to repeat but he had twenty seven.

951
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 2: If he's a fifteen to twenty five guy with close

952
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 2: to ninety plus runs and RBI like right outside the

953
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 2: top one hundred, makes a ton of sense. And he's

954
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: a huge supportive player for your batting average. What you

955
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: dreamed out of luis a Rise for all the years

956
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 2: is what Perdomo is. You always are like, well, I

957
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: would always say this, like why doesn't Arise hit more homers?

958
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 2: Why doesn't he ever steal bases? Well, Perdoma does and

959
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 2: he doesn't strike out. He's a great points League player.

960
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 2: I think eighty seven might be too low, but I

961
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 2: think it's the right combination of the risk of him

962
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 2: not having a history of doing this stuff and building

963
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: in some of what he did last season being super valuable.

964
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,479
Speaker 1: Speaking of super valuable, how about thirty seven home runs

965
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: off the waiver wire, because that's basically what Jodell was

966
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: last year. Jo Adell player who has been enigmatic, to

967
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: say the least ironically, you know, twenty six turning twenty seven,

968
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: same age again as Juan Soto. Everybody just from perspective

969
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: of how great Wan Soto is, I just want to

970
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: put that out there once again. But the strikeouts are

971
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: always gonna be a problem. The stolen bases kind of disappeared,

972
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: but the power became monstrous. This is another guy too

973
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: who kind of sneaks into this top one hundred here

974
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: at eighty nine. And I gotta be honest with you.

975
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: I get I get the reasons why, because he's young enough,

976
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: we've waited so long. I mean, he's a post post

977
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: post hype sleeper at this point. So what's your evaluation

978
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: of Joadell and Dynasty now going forward? Can we expect

979
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: him to come back and hit thirty home runs? And

980
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: will it be worth it if he ends up hitting

981
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: two ten or two fifteen.

982
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: So I think he is a thirty home run hitter.

983
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 2: I think that's just what it is. I mean, you

984
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 2: and I had lots of debates in the redraft season

985
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: this year of jo Adell, and like, I interviewed Jodell

986
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: multi years ago, and I loved his take on power

987
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: that you know he understood his ability to hit for power.

988
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: He didn't give me some chalking answer. He was like,

989
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 2: I know I can hit for power. I know how

990
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 2: to tap into it, and I know the spots where

991
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: I want to do it. It was just everything else

992
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: in between didn't work this year kind of did. He

993
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 2: hit thirty seven homers while hitting only two thirty six,

994
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: So could it all fall apart? Definitely? He has been streaky,

995
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: but I think enough years of pass where you're seeing

996
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 2: some things that you like. He lowered his K percentage,

997
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 2: second lowest of his career. That's a huge key marker

998
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 2: here with the lowered K percentage. Yes, the batting average

999
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 2: struggled that he had a two thirty six average a

1000
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: two seventy three expected batting average. So even if you

1001
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: give me two fifty with Joe Adell, I'm guaranteeing that's

1002
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: thirty homers, seventeen percent barrel rate elite, fifty percent hard

1003
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 2: hit rate elite. He didn't even need to pull the

1004
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: air of the ball as much because he's got pure

1005
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 2: raw power if he can get that batting average up,

1006
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 2: which the expected numbers are telling. So he underperformed by

1007
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: thirty batting average points against breaking pitches, He underperformed by

1008
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 2: fifty batting average points against fastballs. If that comes back up,

1009
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 2: this is a thirty plus homerun hitter who's kind of

1010
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 2: actually going into the prime of his career. It doesn't

1011
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 2: feel like it because you said we're in like post

1012
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: post post hype sleeper for Jo Adell. But I will

1013
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 2: tell you there are people that have him easily inside

1014
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 2: the top fifty because they believe this is another like

1015
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: we're building in the risk of Joeydell falling apart versus

1016
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: who he is. He's the top one hundred guy. Some

1017
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 2: might see him as a top fifty.

1018
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: Ah, fifty I think is pushing the envelope. But what

1019
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: do you think? Where do you see Joe Adell and

1020
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: some of these other guys. Drop your comments below. It's

1021
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,560
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Speaker 1: Right now. That'll do it for us, but the story

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Speaker 1: of the game goes on for the Welsh. I'm Joey P.

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