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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. By the way,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be joined by Senator rand Paul in the

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Speaker 1: third hour of the program. I believe he is our

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Speaker 1: only scheduled guest right now, though maybe herschel Walker might

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Speaker 1: reach out and give us a call during the course

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Speaker 1: of today's show, as we certainly are dealing with that

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Speaker 1: runoff that is continuing. But wanted to make sure that

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Speaker 1: you're not missing what is going on right now with

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden still has not been to the southern border

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Speaker 1: since I believe Buck two thousand and eight. The Biden

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Speaker 1: campaign in two thousand and eight came somewhat close to

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Speaker 1: the player. Can I just put this in the proper

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Speaker 1: contest because I tracked this one down. I think this

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Speaker 1: is so interesting. They haven't even been to the border

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Speaker 1: if you include two thousand and eight, meaning Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: and his team. Joe Biden and landed in El Paso, Texas,

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Speaker 1: which is a city in Texas. Yes, it is along

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Speaker 1: the border, but he did not actually go in fact,

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Speaker 1: he land at the airport and headed north. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: he hasn't even been to the border if you count

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Speaker 1: two thousand in or maybe it was east, but he left,

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Speaker 1: he didn't go to the border. As the point, I

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Speaker 1: can't remember very well, but he has never been to

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Speaker 1: the border. Clay is the end of the story. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that is their argument. They tried it. It It doesn't make

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Speaker 1: him look much better that they cite two thousand and eighty.

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Speaker 1: It would be like if I said I've been to

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Speaker 1: disney World. Right, if I tell you, Clay, I've been

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Speaker 1: to disney World, I'll give you all the Disney World

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Speaker 1: rex you want. And you're like, great, Bucks are telling

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Speaker 1: me about your Disney World experience. I was like, well,

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Speaker 1: I landed in the Orlando airport and then I drove

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Speaker 1: down to Fort Lauderdale. That is Joe Biden's version of

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Speaker 1: going to the border. I, by the way, can give

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Speaker 1: you every possible detail you need on Disney World because

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Speaker 1: I have been to every theme park in America. It

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Speaker 1: feels like since I had three boys, this is something

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Speaker 1: you have to look forward to. Buck, whether it's Lego Land,

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Speaker 1: whether it's Universal Studios, whether it is water parks, all

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Speaker 1: over the place, and certainly the Disney experience with the

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Speaker 1: three Boys, I've been to them all. Having said all

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Speaker 1: of this, Peter Doocy, you want to actually give Pulitzer

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Speaker 1: prizes out Miranda Divine, who we had on yesterday. Let

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Speaker 1: me just give Miranda Divine some praise in that interview

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Speaker 1: that we had yesterday. One reason to subscribe to the

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Speaker 1: podcast is we know you're all super busy and it's

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Speaker 1: sometimes hard to make sure that you hear everything. Miranda

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Speaker 1: Divine yesterday, Buck in the twelve thirty segment, if I

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Speaker 1: remember correctly, you can go listen to an hour one

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Speaker 1: on the podcast was phenomenal and it's something that I

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Speaker 1: think everybody who listens to this show should listen to

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Speaker 1: if you are concerned at all about big tech censorship collusion,

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Speaker 1: which frankly, I believe everyone in this audience should be.

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Speaker 1: Having said that Joe Biden was talking at the White House,

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Speaker 1: Peter Doocey, who also Buck, should get every award because

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Speaker 1: he's almost the only person speaking truth to power inside

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Speaker 1: the White House on a day to day basis. Biden

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Speaker 1: is headed to Arizona. Peter Doocey outside the White House

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Speaker 1: as he is preparing, I believe to leave. Asked Biden, Hey,

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Speaker 1: while you're in Arizona, big border state with a lot

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Speaker 1: of border issues, maybe it would make sense to go

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Speaker 1: by the border. Here's that exchange. Listen, why go to

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Speaker 1: a border state and not think it's a border because

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Speaker 1: they're more important thing going on. They're going to get

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Speaker 1: jillions of dollars more important things. Buck. When you hear

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Speaker 1: the President of the United States who's going to a

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Speaker 1: Republicans because given the state of our border, there really

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Speaker 1: few things at all that are more important than the

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Speaker 1: absence of border security. And I do think that all

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Speaker 1: of the all the polling for the mid term, especially

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Speaker 1: high level issue. But back to our other point, if Republicans,

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Speaker 1: immigration is not going to overcome that. But it is

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Speaker 1: a huge issue right now for us one to just

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Speaker 1: incremental nonchalant attitude to this. Right over time you get

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Speaker 1: what they were calling Clay, a draft framework on immigration reform,

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Speaker 1: and the basics of it are create more more processing

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Speaker 1: have processing centers, they're called ports of entry. The people

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Speaker 1: so and they're overwhelming border patrol by doing so, which

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Speaker 1: also then means that the fentile just flows through unrestricted,

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Speaker 1: which is what's happening right now. I mean, this, all

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Speaker 1: This is a, no go. We haven't talked about this

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Speaker 1: The funniest part in the draft framework that they were

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Speaker 1: sending around was they were saying, oh, an expedited removal

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Speaker 1: doing any removals right now until you change that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: remove you know, we're not doing any real scale interior

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Speaker 1: this other stuff is nonsense, Clay, because you're just incentivizing

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Speaker 1: And that's what even you hear from the immigrants themselves.

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Speaker 1: Is the reason why they started coming in overwhelming numbers.

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Speaker 1: pass that message down along throughout Latin America and beyond.

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Speaker 1: The southern border in America is open and Democrats want

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Speaker 1: decisions that they make. That's the opposite of democracy, right.

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Speaker 1: that's not a surprise that they're going into this. But Buck,

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Speaker 1: If you want to be if you're a Republican too,

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say it. You want to be on

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Speaker 1: The Envy Obama administration and Disney had a plan where

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Speaker 1: We'll continue to break this down for you as this

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Speaker 1: my mom brought out a video cassette tape from my grandfather,

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Speaker 1: when our family celebrated Thanksgiving with your grandfather could be

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Speaker 1: their great grandfather, their great great grandfather, what our family

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Speaker 1: was like in those days. Chances are, if you're listening

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Speaker 1: to me right now, there is a tape just like

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Speaker 1: that in your family, something that matters a great deal

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Speaker 1: cherished moments, they're not going to be as easy to

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Speaker 1: be shared with your family. How many of you even

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Speaker 1: were a kid. Everybody's got one of these tapes right now,

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Speaker 1: and all of you know that you need to preserve it,

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Speaker 1: and you just haven't done it. Well, guess what. How

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Speaker 1: And then this is what I ask Ray, but he

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Speaker 1: What you read, what you buy, what you're interested in

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Speaker 1: But we have to get to the bottom of whether

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Speaker 1: my voice stronger in Washington. And look, I'm an equal

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Speaker 1: done today, Senator Round Paul, appreciate you being with us.

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show gets going right now, everybody. We are

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Speaker 1: seeing a lot of fights over religious liberty play out

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Speaker 1: with currently a amendment voted down by or should it's

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Speaker 1: not voted down, it's stalled? Or was it voted down?

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Speaker 1: Let me make sure I get the verbiage right here. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the Democrats blocked, I should say they blocked an amendment

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Speaker 1: for the Respect Respect for Marriage Act that would add

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Speaker 1: additional protection for religious institutions and for effectively religious belief

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Speaker 1: to not be engaged in compelled speech or to vi

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Speaker 1: hilate core principles and tenets of their beliefs. So that's

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Speaker 1: going on right now. I mean in the background of

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Speaker 1: what we're about to tell you here. On the legal side,

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Speaker 1: there is this Respect for Marriage Act that is supposed

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Speaker 1: to be a codification of oberg Fell, the Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: decision that then declared that same sex marriage was constitutional,

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Speaker 1: And here we are now seeing this play out through

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Speaker 1: the legislature. Well, you also have this case that was

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Speaker 1: heard yesterday. It's very interesting and we'll try to break

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Speaker 1: it down into ways that doesn't get a little too

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Speaker 1: in the weeds on the legal side, but it really does,

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Speaker 1: I think matter as well and tells us where all

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Speaker 1: of this is going when it comes to the First Amendment,

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Speaker 1: particularly as it pertains to speech, but also free exercise

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Speaker 1: of religion and religious freedom. So you have this case

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Speaker 1: Clay three oh three, Creative LLC versus Elanis. I think

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Speaker 1: I read this. I did not listen to the World arguments.

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Speaker 1: I read the transcript of it. And here's what is

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Speaker 1: that issue you had in Colorado? Once again Colorado, just

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Speaker 1: like Masterpiece Cake Shop, this is an out growth of

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Speaker 1: that case. They are connected. So for people out there

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Speaker 1: who remember the cake baking case. This is the next

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Speaker 1: evolution of that. So the central dispute here is public

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Speaker 1: accommodations law versus compelled speech. And what happened was a

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Speaker 1: three O three Creative is a company that builds websites.

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Speaker 1: Web designer Laurie Smith has this studio, three oh three Creative.

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Speaker 1: They make websites four weddings. I've been doing enough weddings

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Speaker 1: to see this. You know. It's like, you know, Bob

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Speaker 1: and Tammy are getting married, and like here their registry

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Speaker 1: and here's the information and that kind of stuff. So

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Speaker 1: Laurie Smith wanted three h three Creative LLC Limited Liability

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Speaker 1: Corporation to be able to put on her website preemptively

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Speaker 1: that she didn't want. This was just argued yesterday the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court. I will say that even in the transcript,

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Speaker 1: it comes across that justice is Jackson and Soda Mayor

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Speaker 1: are ferociously hostile toward this position that has been taken here,

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Speaker 1: and just in general, I mean, for them, there is

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Speaker 1: no anybody who doesn't see marriage, you know, gay marriage,

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Speaker 1: same sex marriage, heterosex or traditional marriage is all the same.

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Speaker 1: They views as a bigot along the lines of somebody

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Speaker 1: who opposes interracial marriage, for example, they see no distinction.

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Speaker 1: That justices I think make that those two justices make

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Speaker 1: that very clear in their view of it. But Clay,

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Speaker 1: this Laurie Smith wants to put on her website that

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Speaker 1: she will not create websites for the weddings of same

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Speaker 1: x couples ahead of time, and then linked to here

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Speaker 1: are some other great web designers that will do this

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Speaker 1: for you. And so she she's bringing the case because

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Speaker 1: she wants to know whether this is legal or not

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Speaker 1: under the Colorado statutes that apply. And what I think

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Speaker 1: was really interesting was the back and forth over both

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Speaker 1: sides agree that providing chairs, providing you know, sandwiches, you know,

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Speaker 1: a number of things, provision of basic services can't be

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Speaker 1: You can't discriminate whether or not you're gonna sell chairs

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Speaker 1: to somebody's wedding because you don't agree with the wedding.

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Speaker 1: But is it speech to create a website that will

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Speaker 1: talk about a wedding? And there was a lot of

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Speaker 1: back and forth over this one. And there's a big

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Speaker 1: takeaway we can get into here, but this this is

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Speaker 1: the legal weeds, Clay, what did you find in them?

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Speaker 1: I love this case Okay, so the warrior in me

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Speaker 1: when you are this is like a law school hypothetical.

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Speaker 1: So most lawyers, if you're interested in law school at all,

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Speaker 1: the way that you get your grade is an end

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Speaker 1: of the semester exam most of the time, and that

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Speaker 1: end of the semester exam will give you an unsettled,

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Speaker 1: oftentimes legal hypothetical that you have to analyze as if

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Speaker 1: you are a lawyer. And Buck, this reads like a

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Speaker 1: legal hypothetic question to me as I work through it

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Speaker 1: and think about this from a judge perspective. What the

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Speaker 1: distinction here has to be made is between unique talent

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Speaker 1: versus generalized work. And let me explain that in a

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Speaker 1: little bit more of a concrete fashion. So, Buck, you

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Speaker 1: and I will sometimes give speeches, right, will be paid.

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Speaker 1: We'll go to different parts of the country, and we'll

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Speaker 1: speak to groups. We are available to be booked on

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Speaker 1: websites typically speakers are, but we don't accept every single opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's because the schedule is booked that's typically for me,

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Speaker 1: or I don't want to go to that part of

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Speaker 1: going to try to be at. You know, there's all

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Speaker 1: different sorts of reasons why and then sometimes maybe although

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Speaker 1: it depends, but I don't believe I've done this because

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Speaker 1: you don't agree with the group that wants you to speak,

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Speaker 1: we aren't compelled to take those offers. Similarly, if you

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Speaker 1: are a musician and you have a so maybe sometimes

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Speaker 1: you pay wedding play weddings, you don't have to accept

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Speaker 1: every wet offering. So to me, what unites here for

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Speaker 1: the cake and also the website is the question of

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Speaker 1: are they creating a unique enough experience? Is the cake

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Speaker 1: tailored and created in such a unit's website and now

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Speaker 1: it's a website, right, And they kind of dodge the

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Speaker 1: question on the cake, right, they kind of punted it

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Speaker 1: on what exactly. I think they procedurally decided to way

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Speaker 1: down I understand it. And it was six three. Keep

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Speaker 1: in mind Colorado Federal Circuit Court in Colorado and then

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Speaker 1: Appeals Court in Colorado. I guess it was the ninth.

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Speaker 1: The ninth Circuit ruled against the Masterpiece cake shop and owner,

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Speaker 1: and then eventually the Supreme Court came down sixty three

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Speaker 1: in his favor. But a lot of people point out

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Speaker 1: Clay that that outcome years of first of all, getting

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Speaker 1: living to be the wrong, the wrong constitutional outcome twice

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Speaker 1: from federal courts, uh first to circuit, then then appeals

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Speaker 1: and then having to go to the Supreme Court. The

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Speaker 1: process is the punishment at some levels. And so and

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Speaker 1: they haven't stopped, and people don't even really know about

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Speaker 1: this or should know more about it. Then the activists,

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Speaker 1: the sort of LGBTQ plus more extreme activists even started

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Speaker 1: showing up and they wanted him to make you know,

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Speaker 1: Satan cakes. You know, they're really just you know, trying

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Speaker 1: trying to constantly harass this guy. In this instance, she's

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Speaker 1: claiming that the creation of the website is a creative

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Speaker 1: act because of what she puts into it and everything else.

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Speaker 1: So if there was an off the shelf website, yeah

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Speaker 1: you she could s because that was the cake holding was.

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Speaker 1: If you have like a cake, let's say you got

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Speaker 1: a lemon meringue, well that's a pie. You've got a

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Speaker 1: you know, a chocolate strawberry frosted cake. The Masterpiece cake

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Speaker 1: shop has to sell it to a gay couple, for example,

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Speaker 1: but they can't make him write on it, you know,

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Speaker 1: congratulations on your wedding. You know, Bob and Bill or whatever.

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Speaker 1: That was essentially the way this also would apply Buck,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's interesting to me. It's the distinction

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Speaker 1: between if there is a unique creative element that you

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Speaker 1: are bringing to bear as a part of the production

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Speaker 1: of your content, then you can make choices about whom

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Speaker 1: you decide to work for. If you are, for instance,

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Speaker 1: just doing like your point there, if you have think

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Speaker 1: about it, if you're out there like me and you

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Speaker 1: go into a we buy a lot of ice cream

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Speaker 1: cakes right for kids, because the kids love ice cream

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Speaker 1: cakes for birthdays. They have a lot of the ice

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Speaker 1: cream cakes already prepared, and it might say generically on it,

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Speaker 1: happy birthday, and you can just go take that out

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Speaker 1: of the counter, you take it up, you buy it.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't have any specified uniqueness to it. You should

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Speaker 1: have to sell that right, Congratulations on your wedding. It's

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Speaker 1: a generic cake that's already available in your store, as

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Speaker 1: soon as you are saying I want this particular message

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Speaker 1: written on it or a specific design for that cake.

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Speaker 1: To me, that's a unique talent, and that's a distinguish.

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Speaker 1: That to me is the distinguishing. That's the creative process

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Speaker 1: that they that they found was a distinguishing the same

646
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Speaker 1: way that they can't have you right, there is no God,

647
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: for example, on a cake or something like that. It's

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00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: it's that's the compelled speech doctrine. So you have compelled

649
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Speaker 1: speech versus public account nations, which is, you know, you

650
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: can't say my restaurant will only serve you know, my

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Speaker 1: restaurant will only serve Asian people. That's illite, right, right,

652
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Speaker 1: Or I will only rent my home to people of

653
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Speaker 1: Samoan ancestry or whatever it may be. You can't do that.

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00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: So now when you get into okay, can you preemptively

655
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Speaker 1: exclude a protected characteristic from your creative services and claim

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Speaker 1: that the creative services our website design. It's getting pretty

657
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: deep into the and you know, even I could tell

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Speaker 1: the Conservative I think they're going to find six three

659
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Speaker 1: in favor of three h three. I do believe that

660
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Speaker 1: we will see. We'll find out this spring. But you

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Speaker 1: can tell they were kind of like, well, if it

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Speaker 1: is it really a creative process. There was a lot

663
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: of poking around on that issue. But Clay, I think

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Speaker 1: the bigger takeaway from this, and this is why it's interesting,

665
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Speaker 1: that's so far the additional protection from the Respect for

666
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Speaker 1: Marriage Act, the Protection for Religious belief There is a

667
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Speaker 1: the activist wing within the LGBTQ plus agenda will not

668
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Speaker 1: be satisfied until essentially there will be lawsuits against Catholic

669
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Speaker 1: churches for not I mean, it's going all the way.

670
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Speaker 1: There's not going to be some day tent. There's not

671
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: going to be okay, fine, they will, there will be activists,

672
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: there will be left wing agenda that continues to say

673
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. But the fact that the Catholic Church, this

674
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: is their position now, just to be clear, but their

675
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: position is the fact that Catholic Church won't perform same

676
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Speaker 1: sex winnings is is unconstitutional and is big at it,

677
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: and they will not they will not stop. I think

678
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: that's what everybody should be prepared for. The ultimate plan

679
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: here is to sue Christian churches, particularly Christian religious institutions,

680
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: into submission over time until they bend the knee. And

681
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: it's not just gonna be on same sex weddings, by

682
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: the way, It's gonna it's gonna be on a whole

683
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: range of issues. But this is I think the next

684
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Speaker 1: frontier legally, and this is what you're you're seeing continue

685
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: to play out and here's buck what I would say.

686
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: This is the lawyer in me kind of hypothetically thinking forward.

687
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: What if the website designer had said, I won't and

688
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: I think they discussed this sum I won't make websites

689
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: for interracial marriages. I won't make websites for anyone other

690
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: than Asian people who are getting married. Right. I think

691
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: it becomes really kind of intriguing to analyze this as

692
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Speaker 1: you think about the ways that a creative person might

693
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: restrict who they are willing to work creatively for. And

694
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 1: it's just a mess. You can see why they're trying

695
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: to craft a rule that will apply. This is one

696
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: of the things must that always have They argued, just

697
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Speaker 1: on the interracial marriage point. This is important because this

698
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 1: came up multiple times in the task that they said.

699
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: The law has recognized up to this point that religious

700
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Speaker 1: objection to same sex marriage is an area of you know,

701
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: an area of religious liberty that effect there are that

702
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: that has been established. It was even established in Oberghfeldt

703
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Speaker 1: bergerfeldt Um. And the issue, obviously, the difference with interracial

704
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Speaker 1: marriage is there's no respect for UH in the law.

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Speaker 1: I should say, there's there's no carve out made for well,

706
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: you can be opposed to interracial marriage. So that was

707
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Speaker 1: how they argued it today, but they to be sixty

708
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: years ago they would have one hundred percent allowed that

709
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Speaker 1: carve out. So anyway, the way that you think about

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Speaker 1: is what I'm saying is they're trying to get They're

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Speaker 1: going to try to get rid of the religious exemption

712
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: carve out too. That's what I'm saying, that's happening. I'm

713
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Speaker 1: going to do. I don't think there's any doubt. And

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Speaker 1: what I would say is one of the challenges of

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Speaker 1: a Supreme Court is are you writing a case for

716
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Speaker 1: UH law professors or are you writing a case? This

717
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,520
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Speaker 1: police can and cannot do. So many times the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court is trying to say, okay, well, officer who was

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Speaker 1: on the street, you are able to do X or Y.

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Speaker 1: such as these, because how do you know what the

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726
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Speaker 1: although it's a fascinating case. By the way, Tuttle Twins.

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746
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Speaker 1: radio dot com. If you've ever been to New York City,

747
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Speaker 1: you probably at some point have ridden in the New

748
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Speaker 1: York City subway just because it is by far, if

749
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Speaker 1: you catch it right, you know where you're going the

750
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751
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Speaker 1: the city. You're gonna find ton of traffic in New York.

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Speaker 1: If you ride around in one of those horse drawn carriages,

753
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Speaker 1: of the bicycles. Is that the uh, the bicycles that

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Speaker 1: pull people. There's a lot of that going on to that. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've seen, oh yeah, all that's now that they are

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Speaker 1: bike lanes and they blast very loud music, a lot

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Speaker 1: of a lot of a lot of Rihanna and bon

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Speaker 1: Jovi from the bicycles with the with the CPI, I forget,

762
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Speaker 1: forget whatever you call that. But the point is that

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Speaker 1: the subway is, uh, it's it's the beating heart of

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Speaker 1: New York City. Everybody understands that America's largest city without

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Speaker 1: the subway doesn't function. Well. We've talked to you a

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Speaker 1: lot about how much crime there is on the subway

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Speaker 1: in recent years, and this ties directly into the policies

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Speaker 1: of Sorrow's back prosecutors. And this is mirrored and other

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Speaker 1: you know, the San Francisco bart I think Bay Area

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Speaker 1: Trent is very Bay Area rapid transit. I think rapid transit.

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Speaker 1: I was, we're trying to find what the r was

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Speaker 1: in the bart uh that that has had a huge

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Speaker 1: increase in crime and disorder on it. But this is

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Speaker 1: this is a new thing here right now. The MTA

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00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: of New York City, to give you a sense of

776
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: how the city's doing, is looking to do a total redesign.

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00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: New York Post with the report on this, a total

778
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Speaker 1: redesign of turnstiles and emergency exit gates for the entire

779
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: subway system, the biggest subway system in the United States.

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00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: They're trying to do it because I was going to

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00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: make Clay guests on the spot, but I told them before,

782
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 1: so that kind of defeats the purpose. But even he

783
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: was as surprise. He was as surprised as I was.

784
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Speaker 1: Five hundred million dollars of fair evasion this year, all right,

785
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: think about that. There is five hundred million dollars that

786
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: should be in the city budget that is now not

787
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 1: in the city budget because people are breaking the law. Now,

788
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Speaker 1: the redesign of the subway system is going to cost

789
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Speaker 1: Heaven only knows how much money is going to go

790
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: into this, because right now it's very easy. People just

791
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: they jump over the turnstyle turnstyle jumping. And this brings

792
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: people back to the nineties when this was one of

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Speaker 1: the crimes that they cracked down on and we ran

794
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: the experiment. You know what happens when you actually stop

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00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: people and give them a summons or even arrest if

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00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: they jump the turnstile, You actually end up coming into

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00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: contact with a lot of people who have outstanding warrants. Yeah,

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00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: you come into contact with a lot of people who

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Speaker 1: might be wanted on a serious crime, a rape, a murder,

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Speaker 1: an armed robbery, and you cut down on people scamming

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Speaker 1: the subway system. Now, look, I understand the first time

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00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: somebody jumps a subway turnstyle, we're not calling in a

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Speaker 1: swat team here. But that's not happening, all right. The

804
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: opposite of this is happening. Clay. I just think between

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Speaker 1: the hundreds of millions of dollars of theft that target

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Speaker 1: the target stores have seen last year, this is five

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00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars of theft via fair evasion. The left

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Speaker 1: and country, and really a big portion of the culture

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Speaker 1: in America has just decided that stealing is okay, that

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Speaker 1: stealing is somehow a redistribution of wealth, that there's a

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Speaker 1: social justice. The baseline for this. People doing fair evasions

812
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: or not robin hood. They're not actually taken from the

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00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: rich and given to the poor. They're saddling taxpayers with

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Speaker 1: the shortfall. The MTA short budgets twenty billion a year,

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Speaker 1: the short falls two point five billion year in year out.

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00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: When are we going to enforce the law man? This

817
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: is really what it comes down to. Here's the way

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Speaker 1: to think about this. Buck. My understanding, based on our

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Speaker 1: producer Ali, is that it costs two dollars and seventy

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Speaker 1: five cents to ride the subway. At five hundred million

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Speaker 1: dollars in lost fairs, that would mean that there are

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Speaker 1: around one point four million dollars worth of fair skippings

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Speaker 1: going on every day. If that is true, then my

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Speaker 1: math would suggest that's around five hundred thousand fair skips

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00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: every single day in New York City. That seems extraordinary,

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Speaker 1: Like just running the math here, right, because five hundred

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Speaker 1: million dollars. Somebody can correct me if I'm my math

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Speaker 1: is wrong. Five hundred million dollars in losses is one

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Speaker 1: roughly one point four million dollars in fair skips per day,

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00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: year round in New York City, given a cost of

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Speaker 1: around two seventy five for each of those, that would

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Speaker 1: mean there are five hundred thousand people skipping out on

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Speaker 1: paying fares almost every single day or routes. Right. It's

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Speaker 1: probably the same people who are sometimes doing it multiple

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Speaker 1: times during the course of their trips. But that's a lot.

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Speaker 1: And for people out there who say, well, I don't

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Speaker 1: even know, it's a relatively minor offense. First of all,

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Speaker 1: taxpayers end up having to cover the five hundred million

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Speaker 1: dollars in losses because that isn't money that goes into

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Speaker 1: the budget otherwise for the larger public trust. Also, Buck,

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00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 1: I think the really big part here is the people

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Speaker 1: who are skipping out on paying two dollars and seventy

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00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: five cents to ride on the subway overwhelmingly are also

844
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Speaker 1: engaging in other criminal behavior. In other words, this is

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Speaker 1: not your average grandma who's sixty five years old pulling

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Speaker 1: herself up and jumping over the turnstyles This is not

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Speaker 1: your average forty five year old at six am going

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Speaker 1: in to make his work that is jumping over the turnstiles.

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Speaker 1: These are people who are engaged overwhelmingly in criminal behavior.

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Speaker 1: Well the people. I think the way to friend that

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Speaker 1: is the people who are engaged in a lot of

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00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: crime are also engaged in turnstyle jumping. But a lot

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00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: of the people engage in turnstyle jump. I mean, this

854
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: has become so normalized Clay. You know, you'll see like

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Speaker 1: fifteen year old fourteen year old kids, a bunch of

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00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: them right after school. They'll I've seen it. They'll just

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00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: hop over the turnstiles. They don't care. But I do

858
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: think that there's there's message in the same way that

859
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 1: graffiti in a city sends a message of lawlessness, decay

860
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: and just nobody gives a crap, meaning the people in

861
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: charge don't care. They're not doing anything about this. When

862
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: you're in a subway and you see people one after

863
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: another jump in the turnstiles, usually having a laugh about it.

864
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: When you see that happening, it's a reminder that there

865
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: is an attitude of lawlessness and lack of consequences for

866
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: doing things that are clearly you know, everyone knows just

867
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: supposed to pay a subway fair. And I just think

868
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: that that has corrosive effects all throughout, all throughout society.

869
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: This is why you know everything in CVS stores, you

870
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: know everything in law Greens, underlock and key in New York,

871
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 1: wherever you go these days, fair jumping all over the place,

872
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: super aggressive panhandling people that'd say give me twenty dollars

873
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: and you just ignore them. They start screaming explotives at

874
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: you and you know, threatened to hit you with a hammer.

875
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 1: I mean, this is happening all over the place. People

876
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: are tired of it. It isn't amazing that the Democrats

877
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: look at the laws that they are super strict about.

878
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: It's oh yeah, you know, you take a selfie near

879
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi's congressional desk. Five years in federal prison for you,

880
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: but you know you're on your fiftieth arrest, You've done

881
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: a couple of armed robberies. You're just constantly a menace

882
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: to society. You're threatening old people walking down the subway steps.

883
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: You know, we don't want to be too harsh that

884
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 1: they're not only that buck. Think about the officers working

885
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: in the subway, given the lack of respect that you

886
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 1: are getting from the larger American population, to say nothing

887
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: of the Alvin Braggs of the world inside of New

888
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: York City. Do you really want to try to chase

889
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 1: somebody who is fair skipping and get into a wrestling

890
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: match with them or try to somehow handcuff them when

891
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: if somebody takes a video this is really important too

892
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: violently you're in trouble. What you're talking abo is really important, Clay,

893
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 1: because when you have somebody who right now, the politics

894
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: and I can speak to New York with the most clarity,

895
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: but I'm sure you know name a city. This is

896
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: probably the case in a major every major city in

897
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: the country right now. The uh if a cop said hey, stop,

898
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 1: that's illegal, and then decided to give chase to somebody

899
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: who had done a fair evasion and then tried to

900
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: put hands on that person and there were some kind

901
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: of a scuffle, I don't mean anything even goes really awry.

902
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: But you know, when you're met, when you're actually using

903
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: force to detain somebody and to handcuff them, who refuses

904
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: to respond to you, who refuses to you know, to

905
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: accept that police officers authority has just willingly broken the law.

906
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: We all know it. And let's say that that person,

907
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 1: you know, if they if they get taken the ground,

908
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: they do, you know, scuff their head a little bit,

909
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of blood, something like that happens.

910
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: The city of bureaucracy is going to side with the

911
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: the criminal, the lawbreaker every single time. Yep. That's that's

912
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: the attitude where the attitude social media is going to say,

913
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: look at this awful, thuggish police officer who tackled this

914
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: guy and all he did was jump over the few

915
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: to pay his society of laws or not. I spend

916
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 1: so much time, clay the amount of time I spend,

917
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: and I have an accountant. But just like filling out

918
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: paperwork on taxes and all this stuff all the time,

919
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: and it's always all you better do this or else,

920
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,479
Speaker 1: you better do this or else. But all these things

921
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: that are making people's lives miserable and putting people in

922
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: danger and having a really negative consequence to society as

923
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 1: a whole. Look, the Libs the Democrats constantly excuse this stuff.

924
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: They constantly excuse criminality is not a big deal, especially

925
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: the quality of life stuff. And eventually you're just like,

926
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 1: why why does anyon want to put up with this anymore?

927
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: It's it's really the same way that they want to

928
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: be massed up. They want to be told what to do.

929
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: I think they like the opportunity to virtue signal by saying, oh, well,

930
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: you know, I don't really care if there's like lot,

931
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: if everything's under lock and key, it might Dwayne read.

932
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: As long as we have criminal justice reform, I'm happy

933
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: they're lunatics. I don't know what else to say. This

934
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: is why these things aren't getting fixed faster. Being a

935
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,359
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936
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: So people do get tired of this eventually. But that's

937
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,719
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