Speaker 1: Welcome to the Official Jets Podcast. We're presented went back
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Speaker 1: Ellen here in the studio. Coming up, we're gonna hear
Speaker 1: from the mad Backer part Scott, but we're starting today
Speaker 1: with Jets defense, Ave Tackle, Quinn and Williams. How are
Speaker 1: you today? Thanks so much for coming upstairs in the
Speaker 1: second floor. I'm doing good man. Thank you for having
Speaker 1: me quinning fourth season in the National Football League and
Speaker 1: you're still twenty four years old? How about that? It's
Speaker 1: super dope, man, I'm stilling young being it's a lot
Speaker 1: of rookies coming in, like the quarterback from George I
Speaker 1: believe I think he's twenty five. But it's the funny
Speaker 1: to me, man, like, if you need to be twenty
Speaker 1: four years old, still in the NFL for four years now, Uh,
Speaker 1: it's super dope. Blessing. So and just a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks you're gonna turn How do you guys celebrate that birthday?
Speaker 1: Being in New Jersey and New York, it's so cold,
Speaker 1: so like me and my wife like to stay in,
Speaker 1: just cook dinner and just chill different things like that.
Speaker 1: So who's doing the cooking? Do you guys do to cook.
Speaker 1: Probably it's my birthday, so she got to cook for me.
Speaker 1: What's gonna be the meal? I don't know. She loved
Speaker 1: cooking like afraid, Opasta sam and different things like that.
Speaker 1: Something healthy. Since we're still in season, I try to
Speaker 1: stay on a strict diet steer. So speaking of standing
Speaker 1: out a strict diet, can you talk about how you
Speaker 1: came into camp this year? Everybody was raving about cute
Speaker 1: by shape of his life. Yeah, this is all season, man.
Speaker 1: I really I really took upon myself just learning different
Speaker 1: things in my first three years and doing learning different
Speaker 1: things I wanted to get get done and learn different
Speaker 1: things I wanted to do better in my next year.
Speaker 1: And one of those big things with nutrition and um endurance,
Speaker 1: and that was one of the big things that I
Speaker 1: talked to Nikkia nutrition is and me and her got
Speaker 1: an amazing playing down and pack down together and had
Speaker 1: to strict conditioning staff all buying into it and different
Speaker 1: things like that. So sticking to it, man, this whole
Speaker 1: all season. I feel like I came into trying to
Speaker 1: count best shape of my career. So that was one
Speaker 1: of the biggest thing I wanted to get accomplished. And
Speaker 1: I think I did what predominantly stands out in terms
Speaker 1: of maybe what you did fitness wise and then what
Speaker 1: you did from a nutrition aspect. I think it's two machines.
Speaker 1: I think the scheme machine and the roll machine was
Speaker 1: two big machines. I did uh this all season at
Speaker 1: Different Breed Sports Academy with my training ain't done. He's
Speaker 1: an amazing during training bro and the Scheme machine in
Speaker 1: the row machine. With the first two machines, I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: like I am dying on this machine, like and um,
Speaker 1: it was just fun man, just being able to get
Speaker 1: in shape like I wanted to be and it was
Speaker 1: hard going through it. And nutrition wise, it was like
Speaker 1: it was everything still good and still healthy and different
Speaker 1: things like So it wasn't a huge change. I just
Speaker 1: started eating more vegetables, different varieties of vegetables and different
Speaker 1: things like that. So twelve games into your fourth professional season,
Speaker 1: how do you feel physically at this point? I feel
Speaker 1: amazing if he's laughing at people telling I'm still young,
Speaker 1: so I don't really get sore too much. But it's
Speaker 1: it's it's attestment to my diet and nutrition stuff and
Speaker 1: my wife for real. So you're always talking about the team,
Speaker 1: but can I ask you just to talk about yourself
Speaker 1: just for a little bit. What do you think about
Speaker 1: your campaign to date? You got nine sacks, You're one
Speaker 1: of the best run stuffers in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: You're constantly double on triple team, but the production is
Speaker 1: still there. Oh, I just think I'm doing my job,
Speaker 1: understand man, that everybody hold me to accountability to a
Speaker 1: high standard, and just like I hold everybody else to
Speaker 1: accountability and to a high standard. And that's one of
Speaker 1: those things that we all speak to each other like
Speaker 1: C J. Moses got a hundred tackles and uh, people
Speaker 1: like don't talk about that a little bit. And not
Speaker 1: even like O c J. Mosy. He tells everybody to
Speaker 1: play call. He give everybody thing. So it's one of
Speaker 1: those things like without c J. Mosley, nobody, no, all
Speaker 1: ten of us on the field won't know what to do.
Speaker 1: So it's like it's a chain of command. Is everybody
Speaker 1: have to do their job to a high standard and
Speaker 1: high accountability for everybody to work, just like you need
Speaker 1: brakes on the car and the transmission and different things
Speaker 1: like that to get that car rolling. So and I
Speaker 1: think that's a testament to my teammates and a testament
Speaker 1: to UM, each and everybody that lined up next to
Speaker 1: me and on the field to help me do my
Speaker 1: job to the best of my ability. Where does that
Speaker 1: humility come from? You always have that. It's just one
Speaker 1: of those things knowing that you're you're not alonger that
Speaker 1: it's not a it's not a single sports game like
Speaker 1: golf of tennants or anything like that. UM, It's one
Speaker 1: of those things like you need a team, you need
Speaker 1: your players. Next to me in that boundment, it was
Speaker 1: like every single bout on that field had that same
Speaker 1: mindset that we all need each other, no matter if
Speaker 1: you five star, four star, this star, we all need
Speaker 1: each other to be successful. So we're talking before about
Speaker 1: Chris Jones. Is he a guy that you talked to?
Speaker 1: And also do you study his tape? For sure? I
Speaker 1: study I studia after the game, Yes, for sure. Man
Speaker 1: like Christian Flesher Costs one of my good mentors that
Speaker 1: I always talked to each and every game. Guys, so
Speaker 1: I've been looking up to since college and learning after
Speaker 1: learning different techniques and learning my whole game after them
Speaker 1: two guys and UM just had them guys to really
Speaker 1: mentor me as a dream come true for me, Um,
Speaker 1: and just keep continue to pick their brains and different
Speaker 1: things like that. So when them guys get ready to retire,
Speaker 1: I can still keep pushing on. What what do you
Speaker 1: like about both of their games? Um? Both of them
Speaker 1: so physical and they're like they're big, they're huge humans. Man.
Speaker 1: They get do the things that I want to do,
Speaker 1: like get skin in the gaps and throw for this
Speaker 1: move through power move, become good run stoppers and just um,
Speaker 1: their motors, the athletic abilities and the different things that
Speaker 1: they do. We can we caut and to be consistent
Speaker 1: that it than to be leaders on their defensive line,
Speaker 1: not on the on the DEFERENSI line, be on their team.
Speaker 1: And that's why I want to become and that's what
Speaker 1: I want to do. So do you think you've become that.
Speaker 1: I remember you walking to the door when you were
Speaker 1: baby face Ki, but now even though you're a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks shot here at five, you're one of the
Speaker 1: longest tenured players on roster. Yeah, I definitely feel like
Speaker 1: I've earned the boys to speak up and do things
Speaker 1: like that, but not just be a leader, but just
Speaker 1: be somebody who uh who who's been experienced and um
Speaker 1: and different things like that. Um, but I didn't feel
Speaker 1: like I came into my own of being a leader
Speaker 1: of different things like that on how I speak to
Speaker 1: people and how I talk to people, and just how
Speaker 1: we hold each other accountable and having a leader like
Speaker 1: c J. Moses and make it way easier when when
Speaker 1: you say something and c J but not his head,
Speaker 1: like yeah, y'all need to listen to you, Like having
Speaker 1: somebody to bag you of like c J. Moses is
Speaker 1: unbelievable to have. So how cool is it for you
Speaker 1: guys to share that connection that not only do you
Speaker 1: play professionally together, but you were trained under the same
Speaker 1: man at Alabama. Alwa's unbelievable because he like, I'm not
Speaker 1: the only one that believes in the humility, that believes
Speaker 1: in the team work, the effort, the different things like
Speaker 1: there's another guy who's one of the best linebackers in
Speaker 1: the NFL. UM, I feel like a couple of years now, UM,
Speaker 1: who went through that same path and believe the same thing,
Speaker 1: believing who's earned the respect of many players in this
Speaker 1: whole league and many people in this whole league. Um,
Speaker 1: they feel the same way I feel when they come
Speaker 1: down to different such and different situations and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So having a leader like that in your organization on
Speaker 1: your team, help me become a leader and help me
Speaker 1: UM get enough confidence to speak up when I need
Speaker 1: to speak up. So foremost, what's at the top of
Speaker 1: your mind When somebody says nixt Savan the goat, yeah,
Speaker 1: I say to go man, because they go like for real,
Speaker 1: just because the many guys who came through his program
Speaker 1: and stick to his program, and the many guys who
Speaker 1: became successful no matter on the field off the field
Speaker 1: after that program is the reason why I think he
Speaker 1: used to go How much does it mean to you
Speaker 1: being part of a team that's not only ascending, not
Speaker 1: only is growing, but came from a certain level when
Speaker 1: you were drafted. Now people are talking about potentially playoffs
Speaker 1: and you guys are focused on the process here. But
Speaker 1: it seems like this group is developing in front of
Speaker 1: our eyes and this is just the start of something
Speaker 1: definitely amazing. And this attest me to the organization and
Speaker 1: the coaches staff today brought in Um and bringing into
Speaker 1: different guys who's from a winning culture like Corn Alexander,
Speaker 1: uh DJ Reid and draft picks like Sauce Gardener and
Speaker 1: uh Jermaine Johnson. Different guys that they brought in who
Speaker 1: haven't winning mindset, a winning attitude and the winning tradition
Speaker 1: to come in here and just spread the winning joy
Speaker 1: and the positivity of winning around the whole organization. Not
Speaker 1: just winning, but doing the right way and the right
Speaker 1: things to win. And it's just amazing to have great
Speaker 1: leaders like UM, especially in captain like Hardy and C. J.
Speaker 1: Mosley and UM. Different guys like that man that's who
Speaker 1: who come in who pushes everybody each and every day
Speaker 1: to pull out their best and be the best. And
Speaker 1: not only guys just talking but walk the walk also.
Speaker 1: So what do you think about sla here in the
Speaker 1: second season and and steps that you guys have taken
Speaker 1: under him? Well, I think he's phenomenal, man. I just think,
Speaker 1: like UM, the passion he's bringing weakend and week out,
Speaker 1: the trust he has and his captains and the offense
Speaker 1: and deeper different things itself. It's just coming out weekend
Speaker 1: without it and just always have great messages to us
Speaker 1: every single day, no win or losses, but to get
Speaker 1: better weekend recounting every single day and everything will take
Speaker 1: his course on his own. And you can feel like
Speaker 1: that's been going on since last year, like getting better
Speaker 1: each and every day, homing on the small details and
Speaker 1: doing the things you need to do to be the
Speaker 1: best you can be weekend to week out. So externally,
Speaker 1: it was a heartbreaking loss in Minnesota because you guys
Speaker 1: had opportunities down the stretch come back from a twenty
Speaker 1: three deficit, just weren't able to get all over the top.
Speaker 1: But I was under ground in Minnesota in the locker room.
Speaker 1: It seemed like to a man that, hey, you guys
Speaker 1: thought should one again. Secondly, there's things to clean up,
Speaker 1: but third no moral victories because winning and losing that's
Speaker 1: the only thing that matters in NFL. Oh definitely, man,
Speaker 1: winning and losing matters of anything. No matter what you're
Speaker 1: doing life like, you're gonna either win and lose, and
Speaker 1: the winners is the ones who are gonna stick around
Speaker 1: for a long time. But at the same time, it's
Speaker 1: like that was an unbelievable football team we just played,
Speaker 1: and we had multiple, multiple opportunities to beat that football team,
Speaker 1: And and that's attention to us being a good football
Speaker 1: team also, And that's the thing that go back to
Speaker 1: the small details we gotta fix in the little inches
Speaker 1: we gotta take to make game changing plays or game
Speaker 1: changing sacks or game changing touchdowns. It is the things
Speaker 1: we got to go back to the drawing board, go
Speaker 1: back to the film and learn where we can take
Speaker 1: those inches and take those small steps in the small
Speaker 1: details where we can finish football games against a great
Speaker 1: football team and a great quarterback. Because, um, these teams
Speaker 1: that win the Super Bowl, they do that, they do
Speaker 1: the small details, they do the small thing, They take
Speaker 1: the small um inches on their game personally and as
Speaker 1: a team as a group to win Super Bowl. So
Speaker 1: they're no long run. Can you be better from that
Speaker 1: experience planning the road hostile environment. That's a team that
Speaker 1: now is ten and two, and much like yourself, has
Speaker 1: really excelled in the fourth quarter throughout the year. I
Speaker 1: think during that game, you guys were plus fifty one
Speaker 1: and scoring differential in the final quarter and they were
Speaker 1: plus fifty. So that's a team that has gotten it
Speaker 1: done late. I think sometimes even though you didn't get
Speaker 1: that outcome you wanted, you desired that down the stretch,
Speaker 1: that experience could help every one of that every one
Speaker 1: of the players on that roster. Wings a loss, you
Speaker 1: can help your season, gold Man, because you can learn
Speaker 1: from your wings and just like you can learn from
Speaker 1: your losses. So um learning in general is a big
Speaker 1: thing that I speak on on to the defense of
Speaker 1: the deep line room. No matter you did a good
Speaker 1: or bad, focus on the extra steps. Like if you
Speaker 1: did something good, find out how you can do that
Speaker 1: even faster, or even even strong or even even even
Speaker 1: like more of with technique and different things like that.
Speaker 1: And that's how the the great to be great. That's
Speaker 1: how Aaron Donna become Aaron Donna, or you hear about
Speaker 1: all the story. I watch a lot of documentaries on
Speaker 1: like Reggie White or like different legends like Deon Center
Speaker 1: and the different things that they do to take their
Speaker 1: game to the next level so they can be more
Speaker 1: consistent throughout the years. And that's what they speak on,
Speaker 1: the small details and the small things to help you
Speaker 1: take your game, no matter win or the losses. So
Speaker 1: what do you like most about the defensive tackle position.
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing about defensive tackle that I
Speaker 1: like the most is like you can affect a run
Speaker 1: or a pass like as a dB is like you
Speaker 1: can only really affect the pass. Like, so it's like
Speaker 1: one of those things. As a linebacker you gotta rely
Speaker 1: on like defensive linemen and dbs for the past and
Speaker 1: a run. But I think as a defensive tackles, like
Speaker 1: you can affect the run. If it's a runt player,
Speaker 1: you can be able to make a runt stop. If
Speaker 1: it's a pass player, you can you get to get
Speaker 1: a sackle or quarterback here go hurt. So um being
Speaker 1: a dominant defense attack is big in the NFL. I
Speaker 1: feel like because you can affect no matter what happens
Speaker 1: on the field, that dominatet detacker will be able to
Speaker 1: affect um, pass or run. So what's the key in
Speaker 1: getting off the ball so quickly? I think everybody got
Speaker 1: their own thing. I know. I talked to Christian Fletching
Speaker 1: everybody like that and just deep paining and Jonathan Allen
Speaker 1: and everybody in the league like who I talked to,
Speaker 1: Like it's just your own thing. You might be fan work,
Speaker 1: might be key and somebody Jerry's kying the ball a
Speaker 1: key and the wrist elbow or just knowing the cadence listening.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people listen to like the
Speaker 1: the TV additional home games to get somebody the cadence
Speaker 1: and different things like that. So it's really like a
Speaker 1: lot of techniques you can use or a lot of
Speaker 1: things you can use in your way. So how much
Speaker 1: you enjoy that the study part of the game and
Speaker 1: actually the prep work that goes into being a great player. Oh,
Speaker 1: I love it. Bro I I studied so much. And
Speaker 1: so funny because my wife just graduated from the Youth
Speaker 1: University of Alabama and she was like, you know, you
Speaker 1: really like I got a doctorate in football, and I
Speaker 1: just bust out laughing. I'm like, I really do. Got
Speaker 1: studied so much of football, and I know so much
Speaker 1: about football. Just the i Q level that I have
Speaker 1: about football is unbelievable. And not just continue to study
Speaker 1: and continue to learn from guys in front of me
Speaker 1: or even guys behind me. So all right, So I
Speaker 1: started the National Football Working two thousanden. I was a
Speaker 1: PR intern with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They had a
Speaker 1: guy at the time who is a great three technique
Speaker 1: to funds attackle Warren Sap. That's that's why I look
Speaker 1: at all the time. He said, you look at Sap
Speaker 1: all the time. What do you admire most about his game?
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing I admire most is his
Speaker 1: athletic ability, to him being so big, um, him being
Speaker 1: so um, especially interior interior, because I was three taken
Speaker 1: to take uh with him being in three tickets like
Speaker 1: man like he's really a rushing a guard or a
Speaker 1: center like the duminy As Russia's Russia Inn. And that
Speaker 1: was the biggest thing. That Chreas does a lot too,
Speaker 1: and Fletch does a lot too, and I wanted to
Speaker 1: be able to put that in my game, to be
Speaker 1: able to rush fast and fluent it with the athletic
Speaker 1: ability like them guys. So is it something Over the
Speaker 1: years you talk about talking to Flesh, talking to Chris,
Speaker 1: have you had an opportunity to talk to Sap at all? Na?
Speaker 1: Not yet? Okay, NA, I know he's an amazing guy,
Speaker 1: Like I see him fishing all the time on Instagram
Speaker 1: and different stuff like that. So if I get the
Speaker 1: opportunity to talk to him, Okay, well we're letting him
Speaker 1: know right now that you're a fan of his game.
Speaker 1: But uh, the way Fletcher goes about his business and
Speaker 1: then the way Chris goes about it, um the differences
Speaker 1: like you were talking about before, and also the similarities
Speaker 1: between them and your game. They got a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff different flesh. One of a power guy who can
Speaker 1: do the edge rushed stuff, but he's loves he loves power,
Speaker 1: and different things like the increase one of the fine
Speaker 1: guys who can do the beg out Russians or the
Speaker 1: one bouncers in the inside of different things like that.
Speaker 1: And with my game, I just feel like I take
Speaker 1: both of those, trying to take a little nuggets out
Speaker 1: of both of the amazing gang of these we're talking
Speaker 1: about all pro future Hall of Fame detacles, and I
Speaker 1: just try to take a little small stuff from each
Speaker 1: one of their games and like stealing almost from each
Speaker 1: one of those games, and try to put it in
Speaker 1: my own body, in my own mind and making my
Speaker 1: own way. So it's a big thing. Like because Viney
Speaker 1: Curry Gouy on our team, who played with who got
Speaker 1: drafted with fledg to play with Fletch. He'll be like,
Speaker 1: we'll be watching fan He'll just bust out laugh. He
Speaker 1: was like, Bro, you look just like Fletch on this play,
Speaker 1: Like and it's so funny because like I watched myself
Speaker 1: do it so much, or I watched Fletch doing so much.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I gotta recreate that same move, the same step,
Speaker 1: the same way, on the same you know, the same guard,
Speaker 1: especially if Philly already play that team. I try to
Speaker 1: recreate the same exact atmosphere, the same exact move and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. And Viny Curry I always laugh at me.
Speaker 1: It'd be like, Bro, you look just like Fletching that move.
Speaker 1: Like how much you like playing with Vinnie? Seems like
Speaker 1: he's so passionate, thats so positive. He's super passion superpolot
Speaker 1: and super like smart when it comes out of different things.
Speaker 1: He's been there, He's warning a super Bowl. He know,
Speaker 1: hows it look um? He know? He just he's just
Speaker 1: so experiencing different nuggets and the wisdom that he acknowledged
Speaker 1: that he gives each and every one of us young
Speaker 1: guys in the room and everything that that is amazing
Speaker 1: to hell. So you mentioned in terms of those guys
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls before potential Hall of Famers, What about you? You?
Speaker 1: How much would it mean to you to be a
Speaker 1: Pro bowler and a first team All Pro? Because I
Speaker 1: think you should be definitely a pro bowler, and if
Speaker 1: people are considering you for first team All Pro, they
Speaker 1: gotta get their heads jet It'll be cool, man. But
Speaker 1: the biggest thing I focused on, Bro, it's just like
Speaker 1: I'm a big personal like um, like doing the right
Speaker 1: thing all the time. And if I'm doing the right
Speaker 1: thing all the time, everything else gonna handle his self
Speaker 1: when he come down to the accolades and different things
Speaker 1: like that. But all our control is like dominate on
Speaker 1: the field, being in the right spot, doing the job
Speaker 1: the right way, on handling my business on the fielding
Speaker 1: off the field the right way, and just being being
Speaker 1: myself each and every time I line up um when
Speaker 1: he come down to executing and communicate to my deepenst
Speaker 1: line and different things like that. So how pressed are
Speaker 1: you with the way Carl has come back from an
Speaker 1: achilles injury and been such a beast off the edge. Oh,
Speaker 1: I knew that was gonna happen, and I knew it
Speaker 1: was gonna happen, like even like people people. I was
Speaker 1: in training camp before a car got injured and just
Speaker 1: to see, like, yo, Car, you are unbelievable animal bees
Speaker 1: majestic out here, Like yeah, we got injury. It was
Speaker 1: just fortunate to see him get injured and everything like that,
Speaker 1: and um, he came back on a tear and it
Speaker 1: was like, oh, my goodness to see him starting to
Speaker 1: get sacks and to see him started to ball out,
Speaker 1: and to see him start to trust his achilles and
Speaker 1: get comfortable back to himself. It's just wonderful to see.
Speaker 1: And it's like, you like, come on, let's go car
Speaker 1: like and car always tell us all the time, like
Speaker 1: he says, so happy to have us, and just to
Speaker 1: appreciate that we have for each other in the Deefenst
Speaker 1: line room is unbelievable and one of the best defense
Speaker 1: line room I've been a part of, especially when guys
Speaker 1: can hold each other accountable, constructive, criticize each other and
Speaker 1: I'll get better at one because we always want to
Speaker 1: see each other seceed and be the best player we
Speaker 1: could be. So do you see parallels with your game
Speaker 1: from Carl? I know he plays a totally different positions.
Speaker 1: He's out there on that, but in terms of sheer power,
Speaker 1: because one of the biggest compliments I think Robert Sale
Speaker 1: has e'vever given you is that you know you watch
Speaker 1: quinnin on film and he's just he gets places in
Speaker 1: a hurry, and people I think when they watch you,
Speaker 1: they realize this guy is an explosive player. But you're
Speaker 1: so powerful. Yeah, Carl teach me a lot. Like I
Speaker 1: just said, I'm trying to get my game to the
Speaker 1: point where i can rush interior like right is Russia
Speaker 1: Like Car teaching me so much when it come down
Speaker 1: to hand placement, attacking somebody, the angles and different things
Speaker 1: that he's learned. He has so much willing to come
Speaker 1: down to power rush moves at the ends Russia and
Speaker 1: finesse moves rush. So a lot of these things I
Speaker 1: stare from Car and learn from Car and different things
Speaker 1: like that when they come down to attacking people, angles
Speaker 1: and attacking people on soft spots and they're set, and
Speaker 1: different things like that I get from Cars. So for
Speaker 1: sure get a lot of stuff. Car is unbelievable to me,
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna definitely take something. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: gotta ask you about sack number nine that's up in
Speaker 1: the prush boxes. Everybody's like, well, who got there? When
Speaker 1: we see you at the bottom of the file. Did
Speaker 1: the guys talked to you after that? What I was
Speaker 1: wondering if there's gonna be any shares therein the first
Speaker 1: It's kind of funny because it's it's so hard to
Speaker 1: get a sack, a single sack. Having car and JFM
Speaker 1: and Brace and Shard, the rankings and all these the
Speaker 1: dominant dominant pass rushes up front, it's so hard. So
Speaker 1: it's like you gotta beat the guy in front of you,
Speaker 1: then you gotta beat your teammates and get the sack.
Speaker 1: So it's so hard to get up. But that's man,
Speaker 1: I'm so blessed to have unbelievable guys like that right
Speaker 1: next to me, and guys I could depend on, guys
Speaker 1: that I know. It's got the same gold and the
Speaker 1: same tenacity that I got. So how much have the
Speaker 1: guys in the back end help you guys do your
Speaker 1: jobs this year? Oh? Unbelievable. Like DJ Readsas Gardner and
Speaker 1: all those dvs back there, bro there they oh they
Speaker 1: without them, there's no delone because it's just be seven
Speaker 1: on seven out there picking balls, getting kissed and deep balls,
Speaker 1: get calling different things like that. So you're sitting right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you see a lot of hitches now, a lot. You
Speaker 1: see the quarterback having to take his time and wait
Speaker 1: to receivers get open and different things like that, and
Speaker 1: it's eye and they'll go back to having a defense
Speaker 1: that communicated and execute on one accord. And then this
Speaker 1: goes back to no matter like you need. Let's go
Speaker 1: back to what I was saying about the team aspect,
Speaker 1: and you need. You're not just out there by yourself.
Speaker 1: It's not just Quinn Wins out there getting the sack,
Speaker 1: as a lot of stuff goes into getting one sack.
Speaker 1: So to think about having four guys goes into one
Speaker 1: sack and having a living guys do their job at
Speaker 1: the same time. So it's a testament to get each
Speaker 1: and everybody on their defense opportunity. You're always preparing for
Speaker 1: the next series. But how about Mike White in the
Speaker 1: way he's acquitted himself through two games, seems like such
Speaker 1: a cool customer. He's amazing. How man an amazing quarterback
Speaker 1: room in general with all three of those guys, all
Speaker 1: four though guys in there, and um, I don't really
Speaker 1: like get a chance to be around those guys too
Speaker 1: much on the officsive side, But um, no matter, everybody's
Speaker 1: everybody's on my team, so you're on my team on
Speaker 1: cheering for you to success and cheering for you to
Speaker 1: have a great game and different things like that. So Mike, cause,
Speaker 1: Mike Cleats, can you talk about what you were wearing
Speaker 1: and warm ups and what your brother your older brother
Speaker 1: or uh they're during the game against the bis. My
Speaker 1: call my Cleats was American Cancer Side. I'm American canch side,
Speaker 1: the ambassador, and I do a lot of stuff with
Speaker 1: breast counsel. That's why I really specialize in because my
Speaker 1: mom passed away from breast counselor when we were teenagers
Speaker 1: and UM, I had one click UM dedicated to breast
Speaker 1: cancer and women fight and different things like that. When
Speaker 1: to come down to breast count, the whole clik was pink,
Speaker 1: and I had another click dedicated to the American side
Speaker 1: and all the work that they do to bring awareness
Speaker 1: of breast counsel and all the things that they do
Speaker 1: to bring awareness for breast counter and different things like that.
Speaker 1: And it just amazing opportunity to get a chance to
Speaker 1: put a on a major platform like an NFL football game,
Speaker 1: UM awareness of breast counc and aware to all cancer
Speaker 1: and awareness to different um mental health disease and different
Speaker 1: things like that. That each and every one of the
Speaker 1: football players got an opportunity to share with the world
Speaker 1: a boy through cleeks and it was an amazing opportunity
Speaker 1: for me to get a chance to um where these
Speaker 1: dope claks. That means a lot to me and near
Speaker 1: dead in my heart. So I think you were twelve
Speaker 1: one you lost your mother. When people ask you who
Speaker 1: she was as a person, what are some of the
Speaker 1: first things that you said, Uh, I think she was.
Speaker 1: She had a lot of traits like saving honestly, like
Speaker 1: she was like super discipline, super like she was just
Speaker 1: super like, like detail oriented because she was a school
Speaker 1: teacher for so long and my grandmother was a school
Speaker 1: teacher and they always preach like discipline, effort, toughness, like
Speaker 1: different things that coach saban Uh used to teach about.
Speaker 1: But she was definitely a leader, and she always wanted
Speaker 1: her boys to be leaders. And I always wanted us
Speaker 1: to give effort and give it all. Anything we do
Speaker 1: give all to us. So I could definitely say she
Speaker 1: was one of the most Uh influenced, influenced, influenced peace
Speaker 1: in my life. So how cool they think she would
Speaker 1: think it would be for her looking down at you
Speaker 1: and Que and the same defense playing the same professional team,
Speaker 1: and she'll be she'd be super excited. She did know
Speaker 1: we would be arguing a lot though, but that would
Speaker 1: be like she'd be like, yeah, I gotta stop arguing,
Speaker 1: like out there like you don't want to court and
Speaker 1: different things do you Guys don't argue, but we the
Speaker 1: way we constructed criticize each other. You'll sound like an argument,
Speaker 1: but just brothers thought because we know each other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it'd be like quincide Que missed attack, like Patriots guy
Speaker 1: and he missed the tackle. That's why I don't feel
Speaker 1: like third and fourth team miss a tackle. And I
Speaker 1: was like like, come on, bro, Like they weren't like
Speaker 1: come on, bro. It was like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like he would looked at me, it was like I
Speaker 1: got you, I got you, bro. I was like, you
Speaker 1: got me. Body, you need to make the tackle on
Speaker 1: the field, you know what I'm saying. So it was
Speaker 1: something super dope bro that we always we always and
Speaker 1: my mom thinks my mom used to think we're always
Speaker 1: arguing and bigger, but we were just like construct the
Speaker 1: criticizing each other harsher though tough. Yeah, exactly. So it's
Speaker 1: cool though. Man another out of the spectrum though, when
Speaker 1: you see him take a running back out or receiver
Speaker 1: out and you see that big hit. That what frustrates
Speaker 1: me when he missed over his because he got so
Speaker 1: he's I think he's one of the best tackling linebackers
Speaker 1: in the NFL, one of the most hardhanded players in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Like, so when he missed a tackle, it's like, Bro,
Speaker 1: you're a professional. Like it's like a sniper missing his
Speaker 1: shot in the military. Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's like team bro. Like, so, like he's a
Speaker 1: he's an unbelievable tacklerst so he missed tackles, It's like
Speaker 1: it's detrimental to me because, like, Bro, that's what you do. Like,
Speaker 1: but it's unbelievable. Like, but he's a super fast, super
Speaker 1: explosive player in himself, So you're might unbelievably gracious with
Speaker 1: the time. What's close here? What do you think about
Speaker 1: the rematch with the Bills? Well, what do you think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be? Like an Orchard Park this weekend? A
Speaker 1: few weeks back, you guys beat them. I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a great opportunity to play an amazing football
Speaker 1: team again for the second week. We played the Vices
Speaker 1: last week this week and unbelievable quarterback and it's uh,
Speaker 1: it's an unbelievab football team. I believe opportunity for us
Speaker 1: as the Jets to get a chance to play against
Speaker 1: those guys so unique down amazing. Yeah, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. He's big, strong,
Speaker 1: and you don't care about contact, you don't care about
Speaker 1: deeper the tackles or d n rushing them. Um, he'll
Speaker 1: throw the ball like he threw the ball last week
Speaker 1: on the edge of the some spectacular stuff that you
Speaker 1: rarely see from a quarterback when they come down to
Speaker 1: physicality and different things like that. So you guys been
Speaker 1: whites out in the second half. It's giving up ten
Speaker 1: points over the last four games the second half. That's
Speaker 1: about two and a half points. Again, what does that
Speaker 1: say about the group and the coaching staff and what
Speaker 1: you guys are doing at halftime because there coming out
Speaker 1: and shutting the door. I think that's what I see.
Speaker 1: The same is a lot um Our biggest thing is
Speaker 1: getting that second half, the transition to the first half UM,
Speaker 1: that's our biggest thing that when I come when I
Speaker 1: always say small, finding the small details, finding the next
Speaker 1: step and from whins our losses to get to the
Speaker 1: next step and see how how can we turn the
Speaker 1: second half into the first half, how we can put
Speaker 1: the whole four quarters in the same direction that we
Speaker 1: did two quarters in And that's the biggest thing. I
Speaker 1: think that the organization, notization, but the coach style and
Speaker 1: UM defensive staff and the defensive players. We're trying to
Speaker 1: find that the next step in the next level on
Speaker 1: how we can do the same thing for the first
Speaker 1: half in the second uh que, thanks for stopping by
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Speaker 1: the mad backer parts, Scott, how are you doing this
Speaker 1: holidays season? Akuda metatos and listen. I'm not in such
Speaker 1: a bad mood after a Jet loss when you when
Speaker 1: I look at how good the team played. So I'm
Speaker 1: in good spirits, man, I'm incased, like all Jet fans
Speaker 1: should be. Okay, So why are you so encouraged? Because
Speaker 1: a couple Jets fans probably were expecting to gridge to that. No, no,
Speaker 1: because when when you look at how this team competed
Speaker 1: against the team that's nine into how the defense you know,
Speaker 1: uh clapped down later and figure it out, you know,
Speaker 1: how to take the space away from the receivers. They
Speaker 1: challenged them they got up in their faces opposed to
Speaker 1: playing off on on third and short. They figured it
Speaker 1: out and Mike White didn't disappoint. I think they if
Speaker 1: they would have would have been able to get off
Speaker 1: earlier and make those adjustments earlier, they would have been
Speaker 1: able to who kind of get that offense in the rhythm.
Speaker 1: And so I give the Jets a lot of credit
Speaker 1: for being scrappy. I give him a lot of credit
Speaker 1: for going in a tough environment. And this is a
Speaker 1: learning experience right now, Mike White's been in these type
Speaker 1: of games. I think they'll have a better plan, uh
Speaker 1: for next next week or next time. And they're in
Speaker 1: a situation how to put points on the board. They
Speaker 1: moved the ball up and down the field, they weren't
Speaker 1: able to cash in. You know, that's about chemistry, that's
Speaker 1: about being put in situations, adjustments, being able to make audibles,
Speaker 1: and you know, I think La Flour has to kind
Speaker 1: of get down what Mike does well and how teams
Speaker 1: are defending them. And you know, that's all a learning experience.
Speaker 1: So the Jets are getting on the on the job training,
Speaker 1: but I think they still have a very good opportunity
Speaker 1: to make it the playoffs as you can see what
Speaker 1: happened in the rest of the division. I think, like
Speaker 1: I said before, when I was on the show and
Speaker 1: I said that, hey, I think that the Miami Dolphins
Speaker 1: are doomed or I don't think they may make the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and everybody laughed at me. Everybody called into my to
Speaker 1: my all the shows and platforms that I'm on and
Speaker 1: told me that was crazy. But then when you look
Speaker 1: at what happened against Mr Irrelevant in the San Francisco
Speaker 1: forty Niners, they were able to do what they did.
Speaker 1: So I think the Jets still are in great play
Speaker 1: to maybe finish fifth. They have to take care of business,
Speaker 1: no doubt, but I'm encouraged by what I what I saw,
Speaker 1: and um, I think they're a live dog against the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills this week. Hey, listen, you are crazy. Uh.
Speaker 1: And don't forget to give brock Purty some love. He
Speaker 1: did some nice things for the forty Niners and their
Speaker 1: win over the Miami Dolphins. Uh. Let's get to what's
Speaker 1: happening in the second half for the Jets. Has it
Speaker 1: gotten to the point where the narrative has changed on
Speaker 1: this team, because in that third quarter where you felt
Speaker 1: the momentum changing, and then we turned the page into
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. My expectation being there in Minnesota was
Speaker 1: the Jets are gonna win this game. So I kind
Speaker 1: of speak that. I kind of think that speaks volumes
Speaker 1: of what Robert saloon Is roupe has done, because yes,
Speaker 1: the Vikings are a very good team and they did prevail,
Speaker 1: but the Jets had every opportunity to win that game. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what I hope this week when they go
Speaker 1: and they do their shortyard his girl goal line, they
Speaker 1: taking one of those remember those when you're a kid
Speaker 1: and you had to go to track practice, They had
Speaker 1: one of those that that big Matt for the high jump. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just want I want the running backs and guys
Speaker 1: to practice just going over the top because we saw
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes just break the plane. That's pretty much all
Speaker 1: it takes, and it is extremely hard to stop people
Speaker 1: when they jump and dive over it. In the linement
Speaker 1: cut everybody and another linebacker has to meet another running
Speaker 1: back in the air. So you know, I come from
Speaker 1: the time where you know LT and all those guys,
Speaker 1: you should just get airborne. Now everybody's trying to sneak
Speaker 1: in and get low. Hopefully we can work on that
Speaker 1: because I think this won't be the last time this
Speaker 1: situation comes up. We just gotta have it, you know.
Speaker 1: Could you remember when we played the Bengals, we had
Speaker 1: to have it and we went to our goal line
Speaker 1: package in the middle of the football field and we
Speaker 1: got airborne to get the first down. You know, So
Speaker 1: when when he comes to situation football and you gotta
Speaker 1: have it, you know, I think we gotta start practicing that,
Speaker 1: and I'm encouraged that we can get it done even
Speaker 1: if we don't go through that. This is just my suggestion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you think it is a learning experience here from
Speaker 1: Mike White? He's only making a second start here this season. Um,
Speaker 1: obviously did a lot of good things, but especially late.
Speaker 1: You just mentioned something that I think I want to
Speaker 1: emphasize here is that that connection with him and Mike
Speaker 1: Lafleur is gonna build over time. Right. Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: know that that has to marinate a little bit and listen,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Mike White made the
Speaker 1: play for the game. It's just unfortunate that Braxton Burials
Speaker 1: couldn't make the play. But you know, you talk about
Speaker 1: not really having a lot of experience with Braxton Burials
Speaker 1: because he hasn't been the starter. But they kind of
Speaker 1: saw what each other saw. You heard Mike White after
Speaker 1: the game say, hey, you know they were playing you
Speaker 1: know basically what they did is, um, the third man
Speaker 1: in instead of usually that you run from inside out.
Speaker 1: We saw c J try and make that same play
Speaker 1: when you have like bunch sets and you run to
Speaker 1: the you know, the first inside. But what they did
Speaker 1: is they went four over three. So instead of you know,
Speaker 1: first high, first outside, first inside, what they did is
Speaker 1: they had the linebacker go outside leverage, knowing that the
Speaker 1: middle linebacker was gonna take the pivot route because that's
Speaker 1: usually what happens. Right. So now that's a learning experience,
Speaker 1: and you know, he still found the whole Bracton Burials
Speaker 1: just couldn't you know, hold on and sometimes that happens.
Speaker 1: But um, the fact that they were able to improvise
Speaker 1: on the fly, um with just seeing what each other saw.
Speaker 1: That means that they're having discussions and they're sitting down
Speaker 1: watching film together. It's such a cool customer. Mike White unflappable. Listen,
Speaker 1: things weren't going to Jets way early. And then he
Speaker 1: came back in the second half and played his best football.
Speaker 1: What do you thin just see only as for Garrett Wilson,
Speaker 1: I mean I think that, um, you know, just think
Speaker 1: like if we didn't have the three games, that was
Speaker 1: a briefe Hall show. And you know, I think that,
Speaker 1: you know, he was still a little beat up from
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati game with the rib injuries, but he had
Speaker 1: three three games where he kind of didn't get a
Speaker 1: lot of attempts and didn't get the ball and wasn't
Speaker 1: treated like a number one receiver and and and and
Speaker 1: deservedly so because Breece Hall was. You know, it's a
Speaker 1: lot easier to handed it until running back stomach and
Speaker 1: be able to go home run. But I think he's
Speaker 1: put itself late in the I think I think he
Speaker 1: is offensive Rookie of the Year, don't you. Well it's tough,
Speaker 1: right because you have Chrys Alive right who has made
Speaker 1: who before the game started had two in the yards
Speaker 1: on him as far as production. And that's why I
Speaker 1: go back to those three games where you know, he
Speaker 1: really wasn't involved in the offense. But what what he
Speaker 1: has over Chris Alive is the fact that Chris Alive
Speaker 1: isn't playing for a play. Well, let me take that back.
Speaker 1: Oddly enough, I see within that deficsion with four wins
Speaker 1: there one game out of first place, which is crazy.
Speaker 1: But I don't think that the that the voters will
Speaker 1: look at it that way. When you see that. Garrett
Speaker 1: Wilson effect on winning is greater than I believe Chris alive.
Speaker 1: So he's still alive, dog, and you know, with five
Speaker 1: games left, I think he'll you know, be the first
Speaker 1: Jet I don't know if he'll be the first Jet
Speaker 1: receiver ever since Keishawn Johnson to half like over a
Speaker 1: thousand yards receiving in his rookie campaign, but um, he
Speaker 1: has a chance to eclipse Keishawan Johnson and maybe be
Speaker 1: the all time receiving rookie in the Jets history. And
Speaker 1: I think that's something to be said. And I think
Speaker 1: that warrants potentially Offensive Player of the Year. I know
Speaker 1: what Kenneth Walker was doing and is doing with Seattle,
Speaker 1: you know, running back sometimes get that award as they're
Speaker 1: starting to kind of you know, level out a little
Speaker 1: bit as well, I know they got to win. So listen,
Speaker 1: Gary Wilson, his setling to me is justin Jefferson silly.
Speaker 1: I look at him in his rookie season the same
Speaker 1: way I look at Justin Jefferson. He has an opportunity
Speaker 1: to go well over a thousand yards and I think
Speaker 1: becoming solidified. So as one of the better um number
Speaker 1: one receivers in the league, I think definitely. So you're
Speaker 1: talking about a guy who, at this point in the
Speaker 1: rookie seasons, a lot of guys are hitting a wall.
Speaker 1: He's just plowing through the wall, and he's accelerating. His
Speaker 1: game is getting better and better. He's become such a
Speaker 1: weapon for this team, and you can make the argument
Speaker 1: that the Jets are gonna have the offensive rookie of
Speaker 1: the year and the defensive rookie of the year. All Right,
Speaker 1: I want to get back to the short yardage bit.
Speaker 1: You talked a little bit about Mike White and burials
Speaker 1: there and then also the running back jumping up over
Speaker 1: the pile a k Ladinia tim Sin. But where do
Speaker 1: you stand just a general overall philosophy, being a guy
Speaker 1: used to be a linebacker in the National Football League
Speaker 1: did so at a high level with the quarterback sneak,
Speaker 1: not for the chats for anybody like in that third
Speaker 1: and one fourth and one kind of range. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's guys that are different and being able to do it.
Speaker 1: Like we know that Drew Brees was good at it, right.
Speaker 1: He was a guy that would just go there, jump
Speaker 1: over the top, get the ball smacks out of his hand,
Speaker 1: but break the plane with with with possession of the ball.
Speaker 1: And it was a high percentage goal line guy that way. Right. Also,
Speaker 1: you saw a guy like Tom Brady who was almost
Speaker 1: like on his career and quarterback sneaks. He went low right.
Speaker 1: But you know, for me, you know right now, what
Speaker 1: I love is you know quarterbacks, you know, motioning out
Speaker 1: and letting. Running backs are tight ends do that because
Speaker 1: they have more leg drive or tight ends doing it
Speaker 1: and being pushed from behind. So I really like that
Speaker 1: and wedging it up. I like that scenario as well.
Speaker 1: So listen, Mike White isn't um you know Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: Michael Vick or Jalen Hurts, and he has his strength
Speaker 1: of weaknesses and he was able to get in you know,
Speaker 1: um after foll the review figure out that he got in,
Speaker 1: but it didn't look pretty. It's other ways. It's more
Speaker 1: than one way to skin a cat. But I would
Speaker 1: love the jet to be able to start playing with
Speaker 1: some of the personnel groupings, you know, when you when
Speaker 1: you like that, I mean, why not just have one
Speaker 1: receiver and bring all your extra lineman in and wedge
Speaker 1: block everything, right, I mean, I think it's different ways
Speaker 1: to be creative, right because you can you can you
Speaker 1: can put your offensive linement back, and I think that's
Speaker 1: what's gonna take for the floor, especially when you get
Speaker 1: in that situation. Yeah, I love what Dallas Cowboys do
Speaker 1: when they get in the red zone when they go
Speaker 1: with the four tight ends, and they have so many
Speaker 1: different plays off of it, because then now you've got
Speaker 1: guys on the outside that can wedge block and in
Speaker 1: superior blockers, and now you get the numbers up. And
Speaker 1: also you know they they they've run um tight end sweeps.
Speaker 1: I've seen shuffle passes out of it, and so I
Speaker 1: think you have a lot of great opportunity to break
Speaker 1: the formation. You get linebackers on on on tight ends,
Speaker 1: you're able to run a little bubble screens. You know,
Speaker 1: if you put them all out there, that the legal
Speaker 1: pick play. So there's a lot of different plays and personnels,
Speaker 1: but and everybody does it differently, So you have to
Speaker 1: take your best personnel group and I think come up
Speaker 1: with unique plays and for those special situations, I mean,
Speaker 1: because you want to be able to present something, to
Speaker 1: show something that the office hasn't seen, right, so that
Speaker 1: you're you're forcing them to adjust on the fly. And
Speaker 1: that's what Kansas City does, That's what the Dallas Cowboys does.
Speaker 1: And they're one of the higher percentage um you know,
Speaker 1: uh teams in the red zone as far as red
Speaker 1: zone efficiency. All Right, Jets builds the rematch, you figure
Speaker 1: you're gonna get Buffalo's best shot. Obviously they're playing for
Speaker 1: a division, you're playing for the playoffs. If you stated
Speaker 1: multiple times, listen, if the Jets won this game, they'd
Speaker 1: have a sweep of the Bills and will only be
Speaker 1: a game behind division. Steaks are really high. But let's
Speaker 1: talk about the counters the chess match. How is Buffalo
Speaker 1: gonna approach this game defensively different with the with a
Speaker 1: different approach? Possibly no Von Miller, but Matt Milono's back
Speaker 1: in the lineup, Jordan Plawyers back in the lineup, and
Speaker 1: Trey White's back in the lineup for them. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think you think that they're gonna feel comfortable that
Speaker 1: they can be able to stop the run this time,
Speaker 1: but that this is a different running back in a
Speaker 1: different running game. You know. Now it wasn't Breefe haul
Speaker 1: in the first game to begin with, but now you
Speaker 1: think about Bam Night, it's a little different type of
Speaker 1: running game. You saw that he was able to be
Speaker 1: in the corner, use his speed, you know, on that
Speaker 1: end around, you know, to the left and left side.
Speaker 1: That went for an explosive play. So you know, I
Speaker 1: think that the first thing is they're gonna say, okay,
Speaker 1: well they don't give up big plays. That's traditionally what
Speaker 1: they've always been. But they don't have Michael High, so
Speaker 1: like it's not like they have two safeties back there.
Speaker 1: So now you have to take advantage. Let's see if
Speaker 1: they try and eat Mike White up. They understand that
Speaker 1: Mike White. You know, the first game you would say like, okay,
Speaker 1: well Mike White against the Bears, quick stuff, right, But
Speaker 1: you saw a little bit further down the field now,
Speaker 1: and I think Mike White should feel you know, if
Speaker 1: you can handle at Oliver and the interior pressure, you
Speaker 1: feel confident with the fact that you know they got
Speaker 1: Boogie Basham who's more of a you know bull rush,
Speaker 1: power pass rusher, and Roussoul who's coming off an injury.
Speaker 1: You have to take advantage that they don't have their
Speaker 1: closure right now and take advantage of that and hope
Speaker 1: that you can have a little bit more time. And
Speaker 1: let's see, like I think, you know, the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 1: are gonna try and say, okay, well we got your
Speaker 1: days White, but you know, you can move him around,
Speaker 1: put them in the slice, a lot of different things
Speaker 1: you can do. They're gonna try and keep everything in
Speaker 1: front because traditionally when they have been at their peak
Speaker 1: and playing at their best football, they don't give up
Speaker 1: big plays. But it's opportunities for I think you you
Speaker 1: get big plays against his team. But it has to
Speaker 1: all start with the running game. You have to let
Speaker 1: them know that no matter what the adjustments that you made,
Speaker 1: they're still on another because we still can run the
Speaker 1: football physically on downhill and at that being you know,
Speaker 1: going in with with with George Fatt and and I
Speaker 1: really would love to see him come in as tackle eligible,
Speaker 1: knowing that he played a little tight end, but just
Speaker 1: the threat of just having you know, a tight end
Speaker 1: there or extra down innalz of scrimmage, tackle over type
Speaker 1: of thing, and it's try and pound the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 1: and see if they made the necessary adjustments. Look at
Speaker 1: you talking about four tight end sets. Now you're talking
Speaker 1: about three tight end sets, getting those jumbo packages in
Speaker 1: there and ground and pound. How about the other side
Speaker 1: of the ball. Speaking of pounding, the Jets really delivered
Speaker 1: a lot of blows to Josh Allen in that first game.
Speaker 1: Bryce huff Uh injured his elbow on the run one
Speaker 1: pass rush really late in the game. What do you
Speaker 1: think as far as the chess mash Uh is concerned
Speaker 1: with the Bill's offense against this Jets defense who shut
Speaker 1: the door down on the Vikings in the second half.
Speaker 1: The Vikings were really good on third down conversions in
Speaker 1: the first half, but they didn't get a lot at
Speaker 1: all the second half. Yeah, I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: if Dawkins is going to be back, but you know,
Speaker 1: being able to attack that left tackle side, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. They he the backup barely made it
Speaker 1: through the game. I mean they went and basically cast
Speaker 1: at his ankle and you know he was just holding
Speaker 1: on for their life. So the ability with the Jets
Speaker 1: to be able to heat him up with with with four.
Speaker 1: It's key. But the fact that the Jets just continue
Speaker 1: coming in waves. I think you know bows well. You
Speaker 1: know with Josh Allen you also always have to be
Speaker 1: you know, conscious of of you know, him running the football.
Speaker 1: I think this week you don't put you can't put C. J.
Speaker 1: Mosey up in the line of scrimmage because last game,
Speaker 1: what did they do? They check to a quarterback keeper
Speaker 1: to the left side. He hit his head on the
Speaker 1: goal post. They have a plan for that when they
Speaker 1: see that package. So you have to take that out
Speaker 1: because they have the answers for that, unless you want
Speaker 1: to bluff them into that and maybe blitz with the
Speaker 1: cornerback or do something unique like that. But you understand
Speaker 1: that they've scouted that, that that personel grouping and that
Speaker 1: that front and when you think that you're maybe getting
Speaker 1: one on ones with your guys, Josh Allen is comfortable
Speaker 1: and capable enough of making that necessary adjustment. I don't
Speaker 1: want to see you get burned twice by the same thing.
Speaker 1: He's gonna give you some opportunities to make some plays
Speaker 1: in the football, right Listen, Alan is such a talent
Speaker 1: not only throwing the football, but running the football. Is
Speaker 1: he just articulated, but at times he's gonna put it
Speaker 1: out there and sometimes he can be a little careless
Speaker 1: with the ball in the pocket. Right. Yeah, absolutely, he's
Speaker 1: loose with the football. He's a guy that you know,
Speaker 1: when it gets tough, he's just gonna go ahead and say, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll put my body at risk. He's gonna run the football,
Speaker 1: and you know you have to be able to make
Speaker 1: plays on him. Right. He may they trying to protect
Speaker 1: him from himself a little bit, so they don't have
Speaker 1: him run a lot early in the game. But when
Speaker 1: his fourth quarter, all bets are off and they need
Speaker 1: this game, you know, so importantly because because with the
Speaker 1: loss of Kansas City, they want the playoffs to go
Speaker 1: through order Park. To do that, they got to beat
Speaker 1: the Jets, and the Jets gotta be up for the
Speaker 1: task and say, listen, we have our own aspirations and um,
Speaker 1: something has to give. Uh where are you with the
Speaker 1: Jets rush defense? Dalvin Cook got his in the first half.
Speaker 1: I thought they did a nice job in the second
Speaker 1: half of making some adjustments. Against the Bills. We saw
Speaker 1: a buffalo kind of take it to the Patriots on
Speaker 1: the ground with motor singletary and then Cook's brother James Cook. Um,
Speaker 1: you gotta watch out for Cook out of the backfield
Speaker 1: and as far as passing the game. But what do
Speaker 1: you think about the matchup with the Bills backs against
Speaker 1: the Jets rushed defense and also defending against the Backs
Speaker 1: in the past game. But I think we're showing the
Speaker 1: rankings back. It gives balance on on both sides. You know,
Speaker 1: Solomon Thomas sometimes it's good for past situations, but he
Speaker 1: can't anchor just because he doesn't have the pure size
Speaker 1: and wait to be able to do that. But I
Speaker 1: think the Jets have the advantage across the board. When
Speaker 1: you talk about the ability to be able to create
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure. Um, it's tough to run uh
Speaker 1: sideways on the Jets because they can get into they
Speaker 1: can get um up the field, and they can beat
Speaker 1: blocks and it's hard to cut them off. So I
Speaker 1: think it's a little different against the Patriots, who are
Speaker 1: more of a two gap and stand still with those
Speaker 1: massive guys. Because of the Jets have you know, athletic
Speaker 1: mobile tackles, They're able to beat those fronts and those
Speaker 1: zone blocks and be able to get up field and
Speaker 1: make tackles from the inside. So I think it's a
Speaker 1: totally different beast. I think because they had Russian success
Speaker 1: last week against the Patriots, it's a totally different animal
Speaker 1: because of the ability and versatility of the interior alignment
Speaker 1: for the Jets. When I talked to speak about them defensively,
Speaker 1: how cool of an opportunity is this? Uh for the
Speaker 1: Jets literally and figuratively. You know what it's gonna be
Speaker 1: called in Buffalo. You just played in a great environment
Speaker 1: in Minneapolis. The Vikings are gonna be hosting playoff games
Speaker 1: this year, likely NFC's number two seed. They're still in
Speaker 1: the conversation for the number one seed of Philadelphia loses
Speaker 1: a couple of games. But uh, Buffalo again, Uh, you've
Speaker 1: played their multiple times, great environment, and again they have
Speaker 1: big aspirations. They haven't been home in a few weeks. Uh,
Speaker 1: that place is gonna be crazy, And I think the
Speaker 1: Jets can just benefit being in a game like this. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: and the Jets, because you know, they played indoors even
Speaker 1: though they were in Minnesota, they didn't have to deal
Speaker 1: with to the elements. But you have to understand what
Speaker 1: happens to the football when it's cold, it becomes slick
Speaker 1: and hard and it's eating ball. Security job security. So
Speaker 1: not only Bam Knight who you know, it's newly to
Speaker 1: the starting lineup. We've got to make sure we secured
Speaker 1: the football. You know, sometimes he was fighting for extra
Speaker 1: jars and spinning and the ball was coming away from
Speaker 1: his body. Didn't hurt him last week, it can hurt
Speaker 1: him this week. So you got to make sure that
Speaker 1: you make sure that you have two hands on the ball.
Speaker 1: You don't spend it, try and get extra yards a
Speaker 1: lot of times when you're already in the grass with somebody,
Speaker 1: and if you do spend, you gotta practice keeping that
Speaker 1: ball tight to the body. Now let it come away.
Speaker 1: But on the other side, guys like Cook has fumbled,
Speaker 1: Singletary has fumbled. So I think that you have to
Speaker 1: make sure that if you're the Jets, that you're trying
Speaker 1: to punch that ball out. Also that you're trying to
Speaker 1: put a hat on the ball. Right. I know that
Speaker 1: the Jets, you know, um use the hawk tackling where
Speaker 1: they take the head out, but at this point, this
Speaker 1: is a head tackling type of thing. When I say, hey,
Speaker 1: you talk about putting the head across the body. That's
Speaker 1: how you secure the tackle, opposed to putting the head
Speaker 1: on the back side and making it more of an
Speaker 1: arm tackle. You know, I mean the hawk tackleing is
Speaker 1: great in theory, but it's it also means that, you know,
Speaker 1: the negative part of it is that you're putting your
Speaker 1: arm out there and trying to tackle somebody with an
Speaker 1: arm and the shoulder, opposed to being able to get
Speaker 1: the you know, head across on the football and make
Speaker 1: it run through your body and your leg you know. Um,
Speaker 1: So it's one of those things where you gotta make
Speaker 1: the decision. You know that your your your body is
Speaker 1: in a great position to make a tackle. No reaching,
Speaker 1: no arm tackles. That's in football five on one right
Speaker 1: there from part Scott, because we saw a couple of
Speaker 1: examples of that in that game at Toilette Stadium where
Speaker 1: the Jets had a couple of mis tackles. Huge game
Speaker 1: in Buffalo this week, let's sign here. Have you started
Speaker 1: your holiday shopping? Well? You know, the good thing is
Speaker 1: my daughter sent me a hyperlink list which takes all
Speaker 1: the thinking out, um, and all I have to do
Speaker 1: is hit the list, hit the link, purchase the items.
Speaker 1: UM takes a lot of the mystery out of what
Speaker 1: she gets, but rather she be happy. UM. Just what
Speaker 1: happens now we have kids in modern day you know,
Speaker 1: technology makes it UM user friendly UM for people that's
Speaker 1: not you know great and being able to go out
Speaker 1: and find an item of my daughter did it for me.
Speaker 1: But I still have to find some surprises. So I've started.
Speaker 1: I got a couple of things off the list, but
Speaker 1: you know, Dad always got to find some unique stuff
Speaker 1: that they don't know to ask, so wish to ask. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well we will be expecting some more surprises for me
Speaker 1: along the way. That's part Scott. We'll see you all
Speaker 1: next week. Yeah,