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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Official Jets Podcast. We're presented went back

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Speaker 1: by the team's work, but together it went Bett. Eric

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Speaker 1: Ellen here in the studio. Coming up, we're gonna hear

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Speaker 1: from the mad Backer part Scott, but we're starting today

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Speaker 1: with Jets defense, Ave Tackle, Quinn and Williams. How are

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Speaker 1: you today? Thanks so much for coming upstairs in the

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Speaker 1: second floor. I'm doing good man. Thank you for having

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Speaker 1: me quinning fourth season in the National Football League and

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Speaker 1: you're still twenty four years old? How about that? It's

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Speaker 1: super dope, man, I'm stilling young being it's a lot

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Speaker 1: of rookies coming in, like the quarterback from George I

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Speaker 1: believe I think he's twenty five. But it's the funny

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Speaker 1: to me, man, like, if you need to be twenty

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Speaker 1: four years old, still in the NFL for four years now, Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's super dope. Blessing. So and just a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks you're gonna turn How do you guys celebrate that birthday?

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Speaker 1: Being in New Jersey and New York, it's so cold,

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Speaker 1: so like me and my wife like to stay in,

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Speaker 1: just cook dinner and just chill different things like that.

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Speaker 1: So who's doing the cooking? Do you guys do to cook.

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Speaker 1: Probably it's my birthday, so she got to cook for me.

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Speaker 1: What's gonna be the meal? I don't know. She loved

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Speaker 1: cooking like afraid, Opasta sam and different things like that.

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Speaker 1: Something healthy. Since we're still in season, I try to

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Speaker 1: stay on a strict diet steer. So speaking of standing

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Speaker 1: out a strict diet, can you talk about how you

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Speaker 1: came into camp this year? Everybody was raving about cute

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Speaker 1: by shape of his life. Yeah, this is all season, man.

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Speaker 1: I really I really took upon myself just learning different

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Speaker 1: things in my first three years and doing learning different

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Speaker 1: things I wanted to get get done and learn different

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Speaker 1: things I wanted to do better in my next year.

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Speaker 1: And one of those big things with nutrition and um endurance,

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Speaker 1: and that was one of the big things that I

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Speaker 1: talked to Nikkia nutrition is and me and her got

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Speaker 1: an amazing playing down and pack down together and had

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Speaker 1: to strict conditioning staff all buying into it and different

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Speaker 1: things like that. So sticking to it, man, this whole

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Speaker 1: all season. I feel like I came into trying to

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Speaker 1: count best shape of my career. So that was one

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Speaker 1: of the biggest thing I wanted to get accomplished. And

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Speaker 1: I think I did what predominantly stands out in terms

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Speaker 1: of maybe what you did fitness wise and then what

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Speaker 1: you did from a nutrition aspect. I think it's two machines.

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Speaker 1: I think the scheme machine and the roll machine was

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Speaker 1: two big machines. I did uh this all season at

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Speaker 1: Different Breed Sports Academy with my training ain't done. He's

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Speaker 1: an amazing during training bro and the Scheme machine in

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Speaker 1: the row machine. With the first two machines, I was like, yo,

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Speaker 1: like I am dying on this machine, like and um,

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Speaker 1: it was just fun man, just being able to get

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Speaker 1: in shape like I wanted to be and it was

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Speaker 1: hard going through it. And nutrition wise, it was like

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Speaker 1: it was everything still good and still healthy and different

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Speaker 1: things like So it wasn't a huge change. I just

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Speaker 1: things like that. So twelve games into your fourth professional season,

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Speaker 1: how do you feel physically at this point? I feel

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Speaker 1: so I don't really get sore too much. But it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's attestment to my diet and nutrition stuff and

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Speaker 1: my wife for real. So you're always talking about the team,

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Speaker 1: but can I ask you just to talk about yourself

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Speaker 1: just for a little bit. What do you think about

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Speaker 1: your campaign to date? You got nine sacks, You're one

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Speaker 1: of the best run stuffers in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: You're constantly double on triple team, but the production is

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Speaker 1: still there. Oh, I just think I'm doing my job,

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Speaker 1: understand man, that everybody hold me to accountability to a

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Speaker 1: those things that we all speak to each other like

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Speaker 1: C J. Moses got a hundred tackles and uh, people

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Speaker 1: like don't talk about that a little bit. And not

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Speaker 1: even like O c J. Mosy. He tells everybody to

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Speaker 1: So it's like it's a chain of command. Is everybody

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Speaker 1: it's not a it's not a single sports game like

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Speaker 1: of those things like you need a team, you need

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Speaker 1: like every single bout on that field had that same

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Speaker 1: each other to be successful. So we're talking before about

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Speaker 1: And also do you study his tape? For sure? I

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Speaker 1: like Christian Flesher Costs one of my good mentors that

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Speaker 1: I can still keep pushing on. What what do you

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Speaker 1: They get do the things that I want to do,

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Speaker 1: And that's why I want to become and that's what

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Speaker 1: I remember you walking to the door when you were

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Speaker 1: baby face Ki, but now even though you're a couple

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Speaker 1: guys to share that connection that not only do you

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Speaker 1: just because the many guys who came through his program

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Speaker 1: being part of a team that's not only ascending, not

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Speaker 1: it was a heartbreaking loss in Minnesota because you guys

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Speaker 1: But I was under ground in Minnesota in the locker room.

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Speaker 1: It seemed like to a man that, hey, you guys

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Speaker 1: the winners is the ones who are gonna stick around

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Speaker 1: And and that's attention to us being a good football

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Speaker 1: same tenacity that I got. So how much have the

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Speaker 1: guys in the back end help you guys do your

435
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Speaker 1: jobs this year? Oh? Unbelievable. Like DJ Readsas Gardner and

436
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Speaker 1: all those dvs back there, bro there they oh they

437
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Speaker 1: without them, there's no delone because it's just be seven

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Speaker 1: on seven out there picking balls, getting kissed and deep balls,

439
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Speaker 1: get calling different things like that. So you're sitting right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you see a lot of hitches now, a lot. You

441
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Speaker 1: see the quarterback having to take his time and wait

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Speaker 1: to receivers get open and different things like that, and

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Speaker 1: it's eye and they'll go back to having a defense

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Speaker 1: that communicated and execute on one accord. And then this

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Speaker 1: goes back to no matter like you need. Let's go

446
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Speaker 1: back to what I was saying about the team aspect,

447
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 1: and you need. You're not just out there by yourself.

448
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Speaker 1: It's not just Quinn Wins out there getting the sack,

449
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Speaker 1: as a lot of stuff goes into getting one sack.

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Speaker 1: So to think about having four guys goes into one

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Speaker 1: sack and having a living guys do their job at

452
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Speaker 1: the same time. So it's a testament to get each

453
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Speaker 1: and everybody on their defense opportunity. You're always preparing for

454
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Speaker 1: the next series. But how about Mike White in the

455
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Speaker 1: way he's acquitted himself through two games, seems like such

456
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Speaker 1: a cool customer. He's amazing. How man an amazing quarterback

457
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Speaker 1: room in general with all three of those guys, all

458
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Speaker 1: four though guys in there, and um, I don't really

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Speaker 1: like get a chance to be around those guys too

460
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Speaker 1: much on the officsive side, But um, no matter, everybody's

461
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Speaker 1: everybody's on my team, so you're on my team on

462
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Speaker 1: cheering for you to success and cheering for you to

463
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Speaker 1: have a great game and different things like that. So Mike, cause,

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Speaker 1: Mike Cleats, can you talk about what you were wearing

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Speaker 1: and warm ups and what your brother your older brother

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Speaker 1: And it just amazing opportunity to get a chance to

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Speaker 1: UM awareness of breast counc and aware to all cancer

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Speaker 1: and awareness to different um mental health disease and different

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Speaker 1: things like that. That each and every one of the

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Speaker 1: football players got an opportunity to share with the world

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Speaker 1: a boy through cleeks and it was an amazing opportunity

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Speaker 1: for me to get a chance to um where these

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Speaker 1: dope claks. That means a lot to me and near

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Speaker 1: dead in my heart. So I think you were twelve

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Speaker 1: one you lost your mother. When people ask you who

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Speaker 1: she was as a person, what are some of the

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Speaker 1: first things that you said, Uh, I think she was.

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Speaker 1: She had a lot of traits like saving honestly, like

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Speaker 1: she was like super discipline, super like she was just

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Speaker 1: super like, like detail oriented because she was a school

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Speaker 1: teacher for so long and my grandmother was a school

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Speaker 1: teacher and they always preach like discipline, effort, toughness, like

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Speaker 1: different things that coach saban Uh used to teach about.

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Speaker 1: But she was definitely a leader, and she always wanted

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Speaker 1: her boys to be leaders. And I always wanted us

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Speaker 1: to give effort and give it all. Anything we do

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Speaker 1: give all to us. So I could definitely say she

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Speaker 1: was one of the most Uh influenced, influenced, influenced peace

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Speaker 1: in my life. So how cool they think she would

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Speaker 1: think it would be for her looking down at you

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Speaker 1: and Que and the same defense playing the same professional team,

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Speaker 1: and she'll be she'd be super excited. She did know

506
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Speaker 1: we would be arguing a lot though, but that would

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Speaker 1: be like she'd be like, yeah, I gotta stop arguing,

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Speaker 1: like out there like you don't want to court and

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Speaker 1: different things do you Guys don't argue, but we the

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Speaker 1: way we constructed criticize each other. You'll sound like an argument,

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Speaker 1: but just brothers thought because we know each other. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it'd be like quincide Que missed attack, like Patriots guy

513
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Speaker 1: and he missed the tackle. That's why I don't feel

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Speaker 1: like third and fourth team miss a tackle. And I

515
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Speaker 1: was like like, come on, bro, Like they weren't like

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Speaker 1: come on, bro. It was like you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Like he would looked at me, it was like I

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Speaker 1: got you, I got you, bro. I was like, you

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Speaker 1: got me. Body, you need to make the tackle on

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Speaker 1: the field, you know what I'm saying. So it was

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Speaker 1: something super dope bro that we always we always and

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Speaker 1: my mom thinks my mom used to think we're always

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Speaker 1: arguing and bigger, but we were just like construct the

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Speaker 1: criticizing each other harsher though tough. Yeah, exactly. So it's

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Speaker 1: cool though. Man another out of the spectrum though, when

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Speaker 1: you see him take a running back out or receiver

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Speaker 1: out and you see that big hit. That what frustrates

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Speaker 1: me when he missed over his because he got so

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Speaker 1: he's I think he's one of the best tackling linebackers

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, one of the most hardhanded players in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Like, so when he missed a tackle, it's like, Bro,

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Speaker 1: you're a professional. Like it's like a sniper missing his

533
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Speaker 1: shot in the military. Like you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So it's like team bro. Like, so, like he's a

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Speaker 1: he's an unbelievable tacklerst so he missed tackles, It's like

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Speaker 1: it's detrimental to me because, like, Bro, that's what you do. Like,

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Speaker 1: but it's unbelievable. Like, but he's a super fast, super

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Speaker 1: explosive player in himself, So you're might unbelievably gracious with

539
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Speaker 1: the time. What's close here? What do you think about

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Speaker 1: the rematch with the Bills? Well, what do you think

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be? Like an Orchard Park this weekend? A

542
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Speaker 1: few weeks back, you guys beat them. I think it's

543
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Speaker 1: gonna be a great opportunity to play an amazing football

544
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Speaker 1: team again for the second week. We played the Vices

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Speaker 1: last week this week and unbelievable quarterback and it's uh,

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Speaker 1: it's an unbelievab football team. I believe opportunity for us

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Speaker 1: as the Jets to get a chance to play against

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Speaker 1: those guys so unique down amazing. Yeah, yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: it's one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. He's big, strong,

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Speaker 1: and you don't care about contact, you don't care about

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Speaker 1: deeper the tackles or d n rushing them. Um, he'll

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Speaker 1: throw the ball like he threw the ball last week

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Speaker 1: on the edge of the some spectacular stuff that you

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Speaker 1: rarely see from a quarterback when they come down to

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Speaker 1: physicality and different things like that. So you guys been

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Speaker 1: whites out in the second half. It's giving up ten

557
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Speaker 1: points over the last four games the second half. That's

558
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Speaker 1: about two and a half points. Again, what does that

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Speaker 1: say about the group and the coaching staff and what

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Speaker 1: you guys are doing at halftime because there coming out

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Speaker 1: and shutting the door. I think that's what I see.

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Speaker 1: The same is a lot um Our biggest thing is

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Speaker 1: getting that second half, the transition to the first half UM,

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Speaker 1: that's our biggest thing that when I come when I

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Speaker 1: next step and see how how can we turn the

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Speaker 1: second half into the first half, how we can put

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Speaker 1: the whole four quarters in the same direction that we

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Speaker 1: did two quarters in And that's the biggest thing. I

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Speaker 1: think that the organization, notization, but the coach style and

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Speaker 1: UM defensive staff and the defensive players. We're trying to

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Speaker 1: half in the second uh que, thanks for stopping by

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Speaker 1: the mad backer parts, Scott, how are you doing this

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Speaker 1: I look at how good the team played. So I'm

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Speaker 1: in good spirits, man, I'm incased, like all Jet fans

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Speaker 1: should be. Okay, So why are you so encouraged? Because

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Speaker 1: a couple Jets fans probably were expecting to gridge to that. No, no,

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Speaker 1: because when when you look at how this team competed

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Speaker 1: uh clapped down later and figure it out, you know,

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Speaker 1: challenged them they got up in their faces opposed to

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Speaker 1: playing off on on third and short. They figured it

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Speaker 1: out and Mike White didn't disappoint. I think they if

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Speaker 1: they would have would have been able to get off

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Speaker 1: earlier and make those adjustments earlier, they would have been

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Speaker 1: able to who kind of get that offense in the rhythm.

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Speaker 1: And so I give the Jets a lot of credit

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Speaker 1: for being scrappy. I give him a lot of credit

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Speaker 1: for going in a tough environment. And this is a

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Speaker 1: of games. I think they'll have a better plan, uh

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Speaker 1: for next next week or next time. And they're in

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Speaker 1: a situation how to put points on the board. They

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Speaker 1: moved the ball up and down the field, they weren't

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Speaker 1: able to cash in. You know, that's about chemistry, that's

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Speaker 1: about being put in situations, adjustments, being able to make audibles,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I think La Flour has to kind

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Speaker 1: of get down what Mike does well and how teams

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Speaker 1: are defending them. And you know, that's all a learning experience.

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Speaker 1: So the Jets are getting on the on the job training,

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Speaker 1: but I think they still have a very good opportunity

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Speaker 1: to make it the playoffs as you can see what

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Speaker 1: happened in the rest of the division. I think, like

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Speaker 1: I said before, when I was on the show and

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Speaker 1: I said that, hey, I think that the Miami Dolphins

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Speaker 1: and everybody laughed at me. Everybody called into my to

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Speaker 1: my all the shows and platforms that I'm on and

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Speaker 1: told me that was crazy. But then when you look

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Speaker 1: at what happened against Mr Irrelevant in the San Francisco

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Speaker 1: forty Niners, they were able to do what they did.

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Speaker 1: So I think the Jets still are in great play

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Speaker 1: to maybe finish fifth. They have to take care of business,

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00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: no doubt, but I'm encouraged by what I what I saw,

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Speaker 1: and um, I think they're a live dog against the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills this week. Hey, listen, you are crazy. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And don't forget to give brock Purty some love. He

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Speaker 1: did some nice things for the forty Niners and their

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Speaker 1: win over the Miami Dolphins. Uh. Let's get to what's

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Speaker 1: happening in the second half for the Jets. Has it

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Speaker 1: gotten to the point where the narrative has changed on

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Speaker 1: this team, because in that third quarter where you felt

646
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Speaker 1: the momentum changing, and then we turned the page into

647
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. My expectation being there in Minnesota was

648
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: the Jets are gonna win this game. So I kind

649
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: of speak that. I kind of think that speaks volumes

650
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: of what Robert saloon Is roupe has done, because yes,

651
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: the Vikings are a very good team and they did prevail,

652
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: but the Jets had every opportunity to win that game. Well,

653
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: you know what I hope this week when they go

654
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: and they do their shortyard his girl goal line, they

655
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: taking one of those remember those when you're a kid

656
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: and you had to go to track practice, They had

657
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: one of those that that big Matt for the high jump. Yeah,

658
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: I just want I want the running backs and guys

659
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: to practice just going over the top because we saw

660
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes just break the plane. That's pretty much all

661
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: it takes, and it is extremely hard to stop people

662
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: when they jump and dive over it. In the linement

663
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: cut everybody and another linebacker has to meet another running

664
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: back in the air. So you know, I come from

665
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: the time where you know LT and all those guys,

666
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: you should just get airborne. Now everybody's trying to sneak

667
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: in and get low. Hopefully we can work on that

668
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: because I think this won't be the last time this

669
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: situation comes up. We just gotta have it, you know.

670
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: Could you remember when we played the Bengals, we had

671
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: to have it and we went to our goal line

672
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: package in the middle of the football field and we

673
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: got airborne to get the first down. You know, So

674
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: when when he comes to situation football and you gotta

675
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: have it, you know, I think we gotta start practicing that,

676
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: and I'm encouraged that we can get it done even

677
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: if we don't go through that. This is just my suggestion. Yeah,

678
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: do you think it is a learning experience here from

679
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: Mike White? He's only making a second start here this season. Um,

680
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: obviously did a lot of good things, but especially late.

681
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: You just mentioned something that I think I want to

682
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: emphasize here is that that connection with him and Mike

683
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: Lafleur is gonna build over time. Right. Yeah, yeah, you

684
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: know that that has to marinate a little bit and listen,

685
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Mike White made the

686
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: play for the game. It's just unfortunate that Braxton Burials

687
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: couldn't make the play. But you know, you talk about

688
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: not really having a lot of experience with Braxton Burials

689
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: because he hasn't been the starter. But they kind of

690
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: saw what each other saw. You heard Mike White after

691
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: the game say, hey, you know they were playing you

692
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: know basically what they did is, um, the third man

693
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: in instead of usually that you run from inside out.

694
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: We saw c J try and make that same play

695
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: when you have like bunch sets and you run to

696
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: the you know, the first inside. But what they did

697
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: is they went four over three. So instead of you know,

698
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: first high, first outside, first inside, what they did is

699
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: they had the linebacker go outside leverage, knowing that the

700
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: middle linebacker was gonna take the pivot route because that's

701
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: usually what happens. Right. So now that's a learning experience,

702
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: and you know, he still found the whole Bracton Burials

703
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: just couldn't you know, hold on and sometimes that happens.

704
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: But um, the fact that they were able to improvise

705
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: on the fly, um with just seeing what each other saw.

706
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: That means that they're having discussions and they're sitting down

707
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: watching film together. It's such a cool customer. Mike White unflappable. Listen,

708
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: things weren't going to Jets way early. And then he

709
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: came back in the second half and played his best football.

710
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: What do you thin just see only as for Garrett Wilson,

711
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: I mean I think that, um, you know, just think

712
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: like if we didn't have the three games, that was

713
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: a briefe Hall show. And you know, I think that,

714
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: you know, he was still a little beat up from

715
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati game with the rib injuries, but he had

716
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: three three games where he kind of didn't get a

717
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 1: lot of attempts and didn't get the ball and wasn't

718
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: treated like a number one receiver and and and and

719
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: deservedly so because Breece Hall was. You know, it's a

720
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 1: lot easier to handed it until running back stomach and

721
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: be able to go home run. But I think he's

722
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: put itself late in the I think I think he

723
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 1: is offensive Rookie of the Year, don't you. Well it's tough,

724
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: right because you have Chrys Alive right who has made

725
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: who before the game started had two in the yards

726
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: on him as far as production. And that's why I

727
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: go back to those three games where you know, he

728
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: really wasn't involved in the offense. But what what he

729
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: has over Chris Alive is the fact that Chris Alive

730
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 1: isn't playing for a play. Well, let me take that back.

731
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: Oddly enough, I see within that deficsion with four wins

732
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: there one game out of first place, which is crazy.

733
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: But I don't think that the that the voters will

734
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: look at it that way. When you see that. Garrett

735
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 1: Wilson effect on winning is greater than I believe Chris alive.

736
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: So he's still alive, dog, and you know, with five

737
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: games left, I think he'll you know, be the first

738
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 1: Jet I don't know if he'll be the first Jet

739
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: receiver ever since Keishawn Johnson to half like over a

740
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: thousand yards receiving in his rookie campaign, but um, he

741
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: has a chance to eclipse Keishawan Johnson and maybe be

742
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: the all time receiving rookie in the Jets history. And

743
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: I think that's something to be said. And I think

744
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: that warrants potentially Offensive Player of the Year. I know

745
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: what Kenneth Walker was doing and is doing with Seattle,

746
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: you know, running back sometimes get that award as they're

747
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: starting to kind of you know, level out a little

748
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: bit as well, I know they got to win. So listen,

749
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: Gary Wilson, his setling to me is justin Jefferson silly.

750
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: I look at him in his rookie season the same

751
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: way I look at Justin Jefferson. He has an opportunity

752
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 1: to go well over a thousand yards and I think

753
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: becoming solidified. So as one of the better um number

754
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: one receivers in the league, I think definitely. So you're

755
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: talking about a guy who, at this point in the

756
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: rookie seasons, a lot of guys are hitting a wall.

757
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: He's just plowing through the wall, and he's accelerating. His

758
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: game is getting better and better. He's become such a

759
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: weapon for this team, and you can make the argument

760
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: that the Jets are gonna have the offensive rookie of

761
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: the year and the defensive rookie of the year. All Right,

762
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: I want to get back to the short yardage bit.

763
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: You talked a little bit about Mike White and burials

764
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: there and then also the running back jumping up over

765
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: the pile a k Ladinia tim Sin. But where do

766
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: you stand just a general overall philosophy, being a guy

767
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,959
Speaker 1: used to be a linebacker in the National Football League

768
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: did so at a high level with the quarterback sneak,

769
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 1: not for the chats for anybody like in that third

770
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: and one fourth and one kind of range. I mean,

771
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: it's guys that are different and being able to do it.

772
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: Like we know that Drew Brees was good at it, right.

773
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 1: He was a guy that would just go there, jump

774
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: over the top, get the ball smacks out of his hand,

775
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 1: but break the plane with with with possession of the ball.

776
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: And it was a high percentage goal line guy that way. Right. Also,

777
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 1: you saw a guy like Tom Brady who was almost

778
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: like on his career and quarterback sneaks. He went low right.

779
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: But you know, for me, you know right now, what

780
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: I love is you know quarterbacks, you know, motioning out

781
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: and letting. Running backs are tight ends do that because

782
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: they have more leg drive or tight ends doing it

783
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: and being pushed from behind. So I really like that

784
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: and wedging it up. I like that scenario as well.

785
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 1: So listen, Mike White isn't um you know Tom Brady,

786
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: Michael Vick or Jalen Hurts, and he has his strength

787
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: of weaknesses and he was able to get in you know,

788
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: um after foll the review figure out that he got in,

789
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: but it didn't look pretty. It's other ways. It's more

790
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: than one way to skin a cat. But I would

791
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: love the jet to be able to start playing with

792
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: some of the personnel groupings, you know, when you when

793
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: you like that, I mean, why not just have one

794
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: receiver and bring all your extra lineman in and wedge

795
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: block everything, right, I mean, I think it's different ways

796
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: to be creative, right because you can you can you

797
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: can put your offensive linement back, and I think that's

798
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: what's gonna take for the floor, especially when you get

799
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: in that situation. Yeah, I love what Dallas Cowboys do

800
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: when they get in the red zone when they go

801
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: with the four tight ends, and they have so many

802
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: different plays off of it, because then now you've got

803
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: guys on the outside that can wedge block and in

804
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: superior blockers, and now you get the numbers up. And

805
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 1: also you know they they they've run um tight end sweeps.

806
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: I've seen shuffle passes out of it, and so I

807
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: think you have a lot of great opportunity to break

808
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 1: the formation. You get linebackers on on on tight ends,

809
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: you're able to run a little bubble screens. You know,

810
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: if you put them all out there, that the legal

811
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: pick play. So there's a lot of different plays and personnels,

812
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: but and everybody does it differently, So you have to

813
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: take your best personnel group and I think come up

814
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: with unique plays and for those special situations, I mean,

815
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: because you want to be able to present something, to

816
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: show something that the office hasn't seen, right, so that

817
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: you're you're forcing them to adjust on the fly. And

818
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: that's what Kansas City does, That's what the Dallas Cowboys does.

819
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: And they're one of the higher percentage um you know,

820
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: uh teams in the red zone as far as red

821
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 1: zone efficiency. All Right, Jets builds the rematch, you figure

822
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna get Buffalo's best shot. Obviously they're playing for

823
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: a division, you're playing for the playoffs. If you stated

824
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: multiple times, listen, if the Jets won this game, they'd

825
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: have a sweep of the Bills and will only be

826
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: a game behind division. Steaks are really high. But let's

827
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: talk about the counters the chess match. How is Buffalo

828
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: gonna approach this game defensively different with the with a

829
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: different approach? Possibly no Von Miller, but Matt Milono's back

830
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: in the lineup, Jordan Plawyers back in the lineup, and

831
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: Trey White's back in the lineup for them. Yeah, I mean,

832
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: I think you think that they're gonna feel comfortable that

833
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,959
Speaker 1: they can be able to stop the run this time,

834
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: but that this is a different running back in a

835
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: different running game. You know. Now it wasn't Breefe haul

836
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: in the first game to begin with, but now you

837
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: think about Bam Night, it's a little different type of

838
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: running game. You saw that he was able to be

839
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: in the corner, use his speed, you know, on that

840
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 1: end around, you know, to the left and left side.

841
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: That went for an explosive play. So you know, I

842
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: think that the first thing is they're gonna say, okay,

843
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: well they don't give up big plays. That's traditionally what

844
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: they've always been. But they don't have Michael High, so

845
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: like it's not like they have two safeties back there.

846
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: So now you have to take advantage. Let's see if

847
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 1: they try and eat Mike White up. They understand that

848
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: Mike White. You know, the first game you would say like, okay,

849
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 1: well Mike White against the Bears, quick stuff, right, But

850
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: you saw a little bit further down the field now,

851
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: and I think Mike White should feel you know, if

852
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 1: you can handle at Oliver and the interior pressure, you

853
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: feel confident with the fact that you know they got

854
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: Boogie Basham who's more of a you know bull rush,

855
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: power pass rusher, and Roussoul who's coming off an injury.

856
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: You have to take advantage that they don't have their

857
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: closure right now and take advantage of that and hope

858
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: that you can have a little bit more time. And

859
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: let's see, like I think, you know, the Buffalo Bills

860
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: are gonna try and say, okay, well we got your

861
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,479
Speaker 1: days White, but you know, you can move him around,

862
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: put them in the slice, a lot of different things

863
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: you can do. They're gonna try and keep everything in

864
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: front because traditionally when they have been at their peak

865
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: and playing at their best football, they don't give up

866
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: big plays. But it's opportunities for I think you you

867
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: get big plays against his team. But it has to

868
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: all start with the running game. You have to let

869
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: them know that no matter what the adjustments that you made,

870
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: they're still on another because we still can run the

871
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: football physically on downhill and at that being you know,

872
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: going in with with with George Fatt and and I

873
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: really would love to see him come in as tackle eligible,

874
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: knowing that he played a little tight end, but just

875
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: the threat of just having you know, a tight end

876
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: there or extra down innalz of scrimmage, tackle over type

877
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 1: of thing, and it's try and pound the Buffalo Bills

878
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: and see if they made the necessary adjustments. Look at

879
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: you talking about four tight end sets. Now you're talking

880
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 1: about three tight end sets, getting those jumbo packages in

881
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: there and ground and pound. How about the other side

882
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 1: of the ball. Speaking of pounding, the Jets really delivered

883
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: a lot of blows to Josh Allen in that first game.

884
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: Bryce huff Uh injured his elbow on the run one

885
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: pass rush really late in the game. What do you

886
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: think as far as the chess mash Uh is concerned

887
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 1: with the Bill's offense against this Jets defense who shut

888
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: the door down on the Vikings in the second half.

889
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: The Vikings were really good on third down conversions in

890
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: the first half, but they didn't get a lot at

891
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: all the second half. Yeah, I don't I don't know

892
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: if Dawkins is going to be back, but you know,

893
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: being able to attack that left tackle side, you know

894
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: what I mean. They he the backup barely made it

895
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 1: through the game. I mean they went and basically cast

896
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 1: at his ankle and you know he was just holding

897
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: on for their life. So the ability with the Jets

898
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,479
Speaker 1: to be able to heat him up with with with four.

899
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: It's key. But the fact that the Jets just continue

900
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: coming in waves. I think you know bows well. You

901
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: know with Josh Allen you also always have to be

902
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: you know, conscious of of you know, him running the football.

903
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: I think this week you don't put you can't put C. J.

904
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: Mosey up in the line of scrimmage because last game,

905
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 1: what did they do? They check to a quarterback keeper

906
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: to the left side. He hit his head on the

907
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: goal post. They have a plan for that when they

908
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: see that package. So you have to take that out

909
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: because they have the answers for that, unless you want

910
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: to bluff them into that and maybe blitz with the

911
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: cornerback or do something unique like that. But you understand

912
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: that they've scouted that, that that personel grouping and that

913
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: that front and when you think that you're maybe getting

914
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: one on ones with your guys, Josh Allen is comfortable

915
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: and capable enough of making that necessary adjustment. I don't

916
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: want to see you get burned twice by the same thing.

917
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: He's gonna give you some opportunities to make some plays

918
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: in the football, right Listen, Alan is such a talent

919
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: not only throwing the football, but running the football. Is

920
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: he just articulated, but at times he's gonna put it

921
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 1: out there and sometimes he can be a little careless

922
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: with the ball in the pocket. Right. Yeah, absolutely, he's

923
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: loose with the football. He's a guy that you know,

924
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: when it gets tough, he's just gonna go ahead and say, Okay,

925
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: I'll put my body at risk. He's gonna run the football,

926
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: and you know you have to be able to make

927
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 1: plays on him. Right. He may they trying to protect

928
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: him from himself a little bit, so they don't have

929
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: him run a lot early in the game. But when

930
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: his fourth quarter, all bets are off and they need

931
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 1: this game, you know, so importantly because because with the

932
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: loss of Kansas City, they want the playoffs to go

933
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: through order Park. To do that, they got to beat

934
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: the Jets, and the Jets gotta be up for the

935
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: task and say, listen, we have our own aspirations and um,

936
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: something has to give. Uh where are you with the

937
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: Jets rush defense? Dalvin Cook got his in the first half.

938
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: I thought they did a nice job in the second

939
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 1: half of making some adjustments. Against the Bills. We saw

940
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: a buffalo kind of take it to the Patriots on

941
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: the ground with motor singletary and then Cook's brother James Cook. Um,

942
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: you gotta watch out for Cook out of the backfield

943
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: and as far as passing the game. But what do

944
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: you think about the matchup with the Bills backs against

945
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: the Jets rushed defense and also defending against the Backs

946
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: in the past game. But I think we're showing the

947
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: rankings back. It gives balance on on both sides. You know,

948
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: Solomon Thomas sometimes it's good for past situations, but he

949
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: can't anchor just because he doesn't have the pure size

950
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: and wait to be able to do that. But I

951
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: think the Jets have the advantage across the board. When

952
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: you talk about the ability to be able to create

953
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure. Um, it's tough to run uh

954
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: sideways on the Jets because they can get into they

955
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: can get um up the field, and they can beat

956
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: blocks and it's hard to cut them off. So I

957
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: think it's a little different against the Patriots, who are

958
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 1: more of a two gap and stand still with those

959
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: massive guys. Because of the Jets have you know, athletic

960
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: mobile tackles, They're able to beat those fronts and those

961
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: zone blocks and be able to get up field and

962
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: make tackles from the inside. So I think it's a

963
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: totally different beast. I think because they had Russian success

964
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 1: last week against the Patriots, it's a totally different animal

965
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: because of the ability and versatility of the interior alignment

966
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: for the Jets. When I talked to speak about them defensively,

967
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: how cool of an opportunity is this? Uh for the

968
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 1: Jets literally and figuratively. You know what it's gonna be

969
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: called in Buffalo. You just played in a great environment

970
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: in Minneapolis. The Vikings are gonna be hosting playoff games

971
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: this year, likely NFC's number two seed. They're still in

972
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: the conversation for the number one seed of Philadelphia loses

973
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: a couple of games. But uh, Buffalo again, Uh, you've

974
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: played their multiple times, great environment, and again they have

975
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: big aspirations. They haven't been home in a few weeks. Uh,

976
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: that place is gonna be crazy, And I think the

977
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: Jets can just benefit being in a game like this. Absolutely,

978
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: and the Jets, because you know, they played indoors even

979
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: though they were in Minnesota, they didn't have to deal

980
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: with to the elements. But you have to understand what

981
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: happens to the football when it's cold, it becomes slick

982
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: and hard and it's eating ball. Security job security. So

983
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 1: not only Bam Knight who you know, it's newly to

984
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: the starting lineup. We've got to make sure we secured

985
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: the football. You know, sometimes he was fighting for extra

986
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: jars and spinning and the ball was coming away from

987
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: his body. Didn't hurt him last week, it can hurt

988
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: him this week. So you got to make sure that

989
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 1: you make sure that you have two hands on the ball.

990
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: You don't spend it, try and get extra yards a

991
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: lot of times when you're already in the grass with somebody,

992
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 1: and if you do spend, you gotta practice keeping that

993
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: ball tight to the body. Now let it come away.

994
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: But on the other side, guys like Cook has fumbled,

995
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: Singletary has fumbled. So I think that you have to

996
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 1: make sure that if you're the Jets, that you're trying

997
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: to punch that ball out. Also that you're trying to

998
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: put a hat on the ball. Right. I know that

999
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: the Jets, you know, um use the hawk tackling where

1000
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: they take the head out, but at this point, this

1001
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: is a head tackling type of thing. When I say, hey,

1002
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: you talk about putting the head across the body. That's

1003
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: how you secure the tackle, opposed to putting the head

1004
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: on the back side and making it more of an

1005
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: arm tackle. You know, I mean the hawk tackleing is

1006
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: great in theory, but it's it also means that, you know,

1007
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: the negative part of it is that you're putting your

1008
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: arm out there and trying to tackle somebody with an

1009
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: arm and the shoulder, opposed to being able to get

1010
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: the you know, head across on the football and make

1011
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: it run through your body and your leg you know. Um,

1012
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: So it's one of those things where you gotta make

1013
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: the decision. You know that your your your body is

1014
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 1: in a great position to make a tackle. No reaching,

1015
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: no arm tackles. That's in football five on one right

1016
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: there from part Scott, because we saw a couple of

1017
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 1: examples of that in that game at Toilette Stadium where

1018
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,720
Speaker 1: the Jets had a couple of mis tackles. Huge game

1019
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: in Buffalo this week, let's sign here. Have you started

1020
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: your holiday shopping? Well? You know, the good thing is

1021
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: my daughter sent me a hyperlink list which takes all

1022
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: the thinking out, um, and all I have to do

1023
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: is hit the list, hit the link, purchase the items.

1024
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: UM takes a lot of the mystery out of what

1025
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: she gets, but rather she be happy. UM. Just what

1026
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: happens now we have kids in modern day you know,

1027
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:42,959
Speaker 1: technology makes it UM user friendly UM for people that's

1028
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 1: not you know great and being able to go out

1029
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: and find an item of my daughter did it for me.

1030
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: But I still have to find some surprises. So I've started.

1031
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: I got a couple of things off the list, but

1032
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 1: you know, Dad always got to find some unique stuff

1033
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 1: that they don't know to ask, so wish to ask. Yeah,

1034
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: well we will be expecting some more surprises for me

1035
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: along the way. That's part Scott. We'll see you all

1036
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: next week. Yeah,