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Speaker 2: Hey Derek, good morning, Welcome to the program. How are you,

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Speaker 2: I'm good. How are you doing all right?

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Speaker 1: Man? What's going on with this woman? Holly?

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Speaker 2: We got to hear kind of the whole story on

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Speaker 2: waiting by the phone, trying to figure out if you've

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Speaker 2: been ghosted?

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Speaker 1: You think maybe? But how did you meet?

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Speaker 2: Tell us about any data dates you've been on plural

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Speaker 2: if there are any, and where things are now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm the Holly n Hinge and we like immediately

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Speaker 3: kick it off, started chatting and like honestly, in like

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Speaker 3: a couple of days, we already exchanged numbers and instagram

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Speaker 3: so it was feeling good and then great, well we

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Speaker 3: started planning a date, though she disappeared. Like I'm confused

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Speaker 3: because it's like, how do you ghost someone before you

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Speaker 3: meet them?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. So you guys you were texting. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you had a phone conversation. You said

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Speaker 2: you exchanged numbers and instagrams, but you were in the

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Speaker 2: planning stages of this date or did you have did

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Speaker 2: you even get that far? You were talking about it,

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Speaker 2: but like nothing formal, and then she disappeared. Yes, huh, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's interesting, Like why would you match with someone and

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Speaker 2: then get their Instagram and chat with them and then

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Speaker 2: just only to ghost them. But I mean, there are

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Speaker 2: so many different possibilities I guess, which is what we're

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Speaker 2: gonna try and find out for you, Derek, We're gonna

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Speaker 2: play song come back call Holly. You'll be on the phone.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna ask a bunch of questions on your behalf.

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Speaker 2: At some point you're welcome to jump in on the call.

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Speaker 2: And the whole as always is that we can set

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Speaker 2: you up on another and pay for it. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 2: then hang out one second, we'll be write back. Hey Derek, Hey,

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Speaker 2: all right, welcome back. Let's call Holly. You met on Hinge.

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Speaker 2: You guys were chatting on the app, the dating app,

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Speaker 2: and then you changed numbers and instagrams, and then you

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Speaker 2: started texting, and you know you were working towards planning

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Speaker 2: a date. You thought that's where things were headed. Except

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Speaker 2: she has disappeared before you could even meet her. She

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Speaker 2: never You've been ghosted before you even meet this person,

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Speaker 2: and you want to know why. Yeah, okay, well let's

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Speaker 2: call Holly now. Good luck, Derek, Thanks man. Hello, Hi

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Speaker 2: is this Holly?

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Speaker 4: Is it she?

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Speaker 2: Hey, Holly, good morning. My name is Fred. I'm calling

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Speaker 2: from the Fred's Show, the morning radio show. The whole

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Speaker 2: crew is here, and I have to tell you that

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Speaker 2: we are on the radio right now and I would

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Speaker 2: need your permission to continue with the call.

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Speaker 1: Can which app for just a second? You can hang

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Speaker 1: up anytime?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, sure, Hi.

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Speaker 2: I know it's kind of weird to get a call

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Speaker 2: from from a radio show, but this is waiting by

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Speaker 2: the phone and we're calling on behalf of a guy

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Speaker 2: named Derek, who says that I guess you guys matched

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Speaker 2: on one of the dating app scenes I think it was,

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Speaker 2: and then exchange numbers and stuff. Do you remember meeting

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Speaker 2: this guy?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well virtually, Verge, I guess because you never actually

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Speaker 2: met him, which is the purpose of the call. Because

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Speaker 2: he reached out to us and says that he, you know,

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Speaker 2: was interested in you based on your dating profile and

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Speaker 2: that you matched and that you chatted, and then you disappeared.

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Speaker 2: So why is it that you matched and then talked

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Speaker 2: a little bit, and then and then when he was

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Speaker 2: trying to plan a date, you ghosted.

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Speaker 1: It seems what happened.

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Speaker 5: I sorry, I just cannot believe that. Asking about Derek. Okay,

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Speaker 5: So what happened was I was super excited that I

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Speaker 5: matched with him, liked his his profile. When I saw

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Speaker 5: his Instagram, I was even more excited because he seemed

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Speaker 5: like normal fun like he has you know, like friends,

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Speaker 5: goes on trips, like the normal person.

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Speaker 4: So I was excited. But then he sent me.

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Speaker 5: The most shocking video I've ever received in my life.

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Speaker 1: Okay, he sent you a video.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, before before we met, before we went on a date.

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Speaker 4: This was his way of asking me out on a date.

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Speaker 5: I guess, uh, backstory because it's it's relevant. I lost

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Speaker 5: my brother a few years ago.

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Speaker 4: A few years ago he passed away. I'm sorry, I'm yeah,

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Speaker 4: thank you.

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Speaker 5: It's it's like still obviously a tough thing for me,

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Speaker 5: but it was.

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Speaker 2: I'm scared by the way, I'm scared of why that's

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Speaker 2: a relevant piece of this.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, I'm sorry. Yeah, here we go ahead.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 5: It was a pretty big surprise when Derek sent me

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Speaker 5: a video with what looked to be my brother and

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Speaker 5: my heart just immediately sank, I pressed play, and it

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Speaker 5: pretty immediately became clear that he had made an ai

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Speaker 5: video okay, of my brother asking me out on a date.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what I mean, there's so many layers of issues here,

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Speaker 2: Like I mean, so, I mean, okay, so I guess

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Speaker 2: he went and he from your Instagram, I guess, and

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Speaker 2: then maybe some context that you'd given him. He got

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Speaker 2: a picture of your brother, and then he and then

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Speaker 2: he used Paulina, his best friend's chat GPT accounts to

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Speaker 2: go in I guess, and then make a video, which

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Speaker 2: these videos are ridiculous, there's so many of them. What

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Speaker 2: I sent you the other day came when one of

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Speaker 2: it was Tupac and mister Rogers chatting with each other.

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Speaker 2: I hate to break it to you, but it never happened.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, so, oh god, so he But then the

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Speaker 2: brother asking you on a date would be weird. Unfortunately

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Speaker 2: he's no longer with us, which makes it even weirder.

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Speaker 2: He'd never met I mean, there's just so many problems.

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Speaker 5: Here, right, And in the video it was my brother

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Speaker 5: like vouching for this guy, saying like, you should go

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Speaker 5: out with Derek, Grandma guy.

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Speaker 4: It's just all layers of ft up. Yeah, probably the

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Speaker 4: craziest thing that anyone's ever done.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I wouldn't be surprised if if it is, I

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Speaker 2: hope it is. I forgot to mention that Derek is here. Derek,

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Speaker 2: why man?

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Speaker 3: Oh look, hey, hey, Holly, hey, Hi. I can see

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Speaker 3: how this is coming across. It's weird, but I.

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Speaker 1: I thought you can't look. But I thought.

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Speaker 3: My initial thing was like, you'd be happy to see

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Speaker 3: him again, and and I won, and then you know,

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Speaker 3: on Instagram, I saw that he was your best friend,

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Speaker 3: so like, I thought it'd be pretty creative. And don't

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Speaker 3: do I get points for creativity?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, no, no you don't, No, you don't.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it would be nice to see him again,

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Speaker 2: but maybe not in this context. You never met the guy,

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Speaker 2: he can't vouch for you. It's I'm sure a very

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Speaker 2: traumatic event that took place for her, very triggering, and

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Speaker 2: you're using it to get a date.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but like it's just because AI. People don't like

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Speaker 3: using AI.

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Speaker 4: Like, I'm confused.

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Speaker 1: You're missing why this is a problem.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't be.

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Speaker 5: Happy to see my brother in this kind of a context. Anytime,

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Speaker 5: say we were getting married ten years from now, it

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Speaker 5: still would be really inappropriate.

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Speaker 4: It's like, there's creativity points here. It's not. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 4: it's just really inappropriate.

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Speaker 2: He's not really vouching for you. By the way, I

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Speaker 2: hate to break it to you.

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Speaker 3: Right, I feel like, you know, girls always say like

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Speaker 3: men want they want men to be creative, but.

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Speaker 2: Okay, relative man, Like, that's not what creative means. Like

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Speaker 2: plan a date. That's not a drink at a bar

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Speaker 2: during a football game. It's not going to chetch ept

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Speaker 2: and and and find distant. Really, what's the next thing

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Speaker 2: you to have her grandfather? If he's not with us anymore,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna have him, you know, say that he likes

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Speaker 2: you to check.

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Speaker 4: His search history I'm sure it's in there. Right for Derek,

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Speaker 4: I mean creative, the AI.

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Speaker 5: Did the work for you, so you didn't even get creative.

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Speaker 5: You thought of a really weird thing and let a

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Speaker 5: computer do it for you.

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Speaker 1: It's creepy and it's inappropriate.

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Speaker 2: Okay, sure you don't seem convinced, but okay, we don't.

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Speaker 1: We don't need it. We don't need it, we don't

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Speaker 1: put it that way.

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Speaker 3: I feel like you guys are for it.

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Speaker 1: So whatever, I'm being a hater. Ok we're being haters. Guys.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you knew that we were haters because

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Speaker 2: it turns out. Okay, I'll ask the question. It's rhetorical.

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Speaker 1: I know the answer. But would you like to go

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Speaker 1: out with uh with AI master Derek over here? Oh?

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Speaker 4: Maybe I'll ask chat g BT what I should do too?

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Speaker 2: But you don't, like, maybe this is clever if you don't,

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Speaker 2: if it's not so personal, I don't. I don't know

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Speaker 2: that it is under any circumstances, but like, maybe there's

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Speaker 2: a funny way to do this with someone who's not

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Speaker 2: someone who meant so much to her, who's who is deceased,

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Speaker 2: if a celebrity or something, right, it's someone who's living

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Speaker 2: or something I don't know, like that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe there's a way to use this.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that there is, but like, certainly not

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Speaker 2: something this deeply personal that you have no attachment to whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, she's not interested. Derek, I might rethink the

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Speaker 2: approach here, But I was waiting for him to say next.

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Speaker 2: You know, if he wanted to, he would, you know

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Speaker 2: that kind of I was waiting for another one of

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Speaker 2: these like hallmark cliche comments from him. You know, women

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Speaker 2: want men to try. Yeah, not like that. No, I

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Speaker 2: thought that was obvious. But Derek, good luck to you.

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Speaker 2: I guess don't do that anymore. Holly, thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for your time.