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Speaker 1: All right, this is Darwin James and you listen to

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Speaker 1: the Charges Podcast Network. Hey, guys, Chris Harry with you

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Speaker 1: here on Chargers Weekly, our first episode of twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: and it's a good one. A bit later I'll be

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Speaker 1: joined by Dane Brugler of The Athletic will preview the

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, which starts next week in Mobile, Alabama. But

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Speaker 1: first a conversation with Shawn Merriman, who shares his thoughts

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Speaker 1: on the retirement of his friend and former teammate, Antonio Gates.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, friend of the program, lights out. Shawn

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Speaker 1: Merriman joins me on a Chargers Weekly. It is Seawan,

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Speaker 1: Big news Tuesday, your friend, your former teammate for six seasons.

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Speaker 1: Antonio Gates calls it a career eleven thousand, eight hundred

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Speaker 1: forty one yards receiving one hundred and sixteen touchdowns, and

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Speaker 1: Shawan a trip to Canton in his future in about

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Speaker 1: four years. Yeah, man, it good. You're looking at this thing.

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Speaker 1: You see the time flies, and you're like, man, I

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Speaker 1: just I just remember walking into the locker room and

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Speaker 1: and you know, seeing everybody seen lts in um everybody,

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Speaker 1: and you know Gate Gates locker was right across, like

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Speaker 1: out their practice, and sometimes as I walked out before him,

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Speaker 1: I was stopped. And we was just joking last almost

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Speaker 1: every single day on the way out to the field

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Speaker 1: because I'll try to get out here a little earlier.

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Speaker 1: And um, and now he's retiring and we're talking about

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame already, and it's like, man, whether it's

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Speaker 1: times go, but um, I just couldn't be more honored. Man, Like,

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Speaker 1: just you know, you don't you don't realize the greatness

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Speaker 1: to kind of win a game, you're losing games, You're

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Speaker 1: you're going through the battles, and before you know it,

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Speaker 1: it's you know that's time has passed you by and

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Speaker 1: you look back one of you say, my god, I

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Speaker 1: played with some of the greatest guys in then Atonio

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Speaker 1: Antonio Gates in one of them. Well, Sean, I love

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Speaker 1: y'all social, whether it's Twitter, Instagram, follow Seawan Merriman if

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Speaker 1: you're not already. And on Tuesday you had some fun.

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Speaker 1: You said the best to ever do it? Please at me.

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Speaker 1: Today I got time so so, Sean, we got we

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Speaker 1: got Tony Gonzalez, we got guys like Kellen Winslow, Robert Gronkowski,

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Speaker 1: Jason Witten. Tell everyone what separates Antonio Gates from the

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Speaker 1: rest of the greatest tight ends of all time? Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, just look at this. I mean, unless we

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Speaker 1: this is a big, uh standoff college basketball player who

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Speaker 1: walked on the field and become the greatest tight another like,

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Speaker 1: look a look at this, you know, And everybody has

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Speaker 1: great tight end. You know, I played against some of them,

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Speaker 1: and um, I can't see I'm not taking anything away

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Speaker 1: bad about this, guys. But when you talk about Antonio

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Speaker 1: gates path or where he started and where he ended up,

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Speaker 1: he has to go down to the green tightening of

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Speaker 1: many different reasons, but that's definitely one of them. Sean,

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Speaker 1: what was it like to practice against him? You were

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Speaker 1: there for six seasons with him. It was you know,

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Speaker 1: mean the talent on those teams on offense yourself, it

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Speaker 1: that that era would never be recreated, right because you

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Speaker 1: No teams can't be recreative. Well, Sean, I hope to

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Speaker 1: Lights Out of Stream Fighting February twenty ninth. We're back

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Speaker 1: next week kicks will be on St. Sean Merriman. Always

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Speaker 1: And Dane, we did this last year. I always appreciate

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Speaker 1: start with your first mock draft of the year, Dane.

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Speaker 1: You have the Chargers selecting quarterback Justin Herbert at number

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Speaker 1: Jackson great first name, but besides that, he's a really

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Speaker 1: and we talked about Nazi Adderly, the Charges have had

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Speaker 1: a history of selecting a lot of guys from this

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Speaker 1: be in Mobile. It starts with Adam Troutman, a tight

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Speaker 1: top competition. He is right now probably a top seventy

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Speaker 1: Well to see Kyle Dugger from Leonora Ryan D two.

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Speaker 1: it's easy to watch this film and get excited because

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Speaker 1: And then the third players, Alex Taylor from South Carolina

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Speaker 1: look stressed out there with his movements and his ability

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Speaker 1: hold up against that type of firepower. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: a guy that could be a riser throughout the process

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Speaker 1: that he holds his zone down in Mobile. Well, Dan,

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Speaker 1: I tell you, fifteen minutes we packed in a lot

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Speaker 1: the perfect Senior Bowl primer for next week. I always

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Speaker 1: appreciate your time. I love doing this and look forward

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Speaker 1: to seeing you down in Mobile, my friend. Yeah, look

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Speaker 1: forward to it. Thanks all right, guys, that's gonna do

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Speaker 1: it for us. A big thanks to Dane and Sean

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Speaker 1: for joining me, and of course thanks to you all

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Speaker 1: for listening. Remember be sure to download and subscribe to

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Speaker 1: the all new Chargers podcast network. We are now on

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Speaker 1: Spotify and SoundCloud as well, so wherever you listen to podcasts,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be down at the Senior Bowl next week

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Speaker 1: in Mobile, Alabama. A lot of good stuff planned, so

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Speaker 1: stay tuned, have a great weekend, and until next time,

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Speaker 1: I'm Chris Harry